This show was from 10 to 11 pm. On a school night and my mom would send me to bed at 10 and I would say aw c’mon I want to watch the show but she said no. When I did get to stay up and watch a show from 10 to 11 I always fell asleep on the floor anyway and my mom would yell at me to get up and get to bed. Simple times. We all (my 5 siblings and I) would spend time together watching what’s on television and no one had their own tv or phone, we were all connected in that way. No too shabby.
Totally agree. Shows like this are forgotten today because they get very little syndication. As I recall, Lou Grant was not shown very often after it went off the air, even during the 80s. Out of sight, out of mind.
+Dennis Nayland Smith: Ed Asner was being punished for his politics. I had an opportunity once to meet him, shake his hand, and tell him how great I thought he was and how much I admired him.
BruceK10032 I would love to meet him also Bruce because I also admire what he stands for. I am aware that he fell out of favor in Hollywood because of his political viewpoints. I find it very tragic that in a country such as ours, which prides itself on its First Amendment liberties, such things can happen.
den o Do you mean what were his politics? That was at the time of the wars in Central America. At the risk of oversimplifying things, I'll attempt to put it in very short terms: In El Salvador, the U.S. was supporting a government that was terrorizing its people with torture and death squads. They were targeting a broad range of people including intellectuals, labor union activists, and Catholic priests. They had assassinated the archbishop and stormed the university, shooting students and teachers in the hallways. In Nicaragua, the U.S. had organized, trained, and funded a terrorist group that was waging a campaign of rape, torture, and death in an effort to overthrow the government there. Asner was publicly opposed to these roles of the United States in Central America. He was working with an organization that was sending medical aid to the victims.
BruceK10032 And just to add to what you said Bruce, contrary to the popular spin put on the comments Asner made at the time, he did not support the leftist movements in Central America at the time but he simply stated that if that's what the people in those nations vote for then we must respect their decision. After all, don't we claim to support democracy? But because too many very stupid people in politics took these comments completely out of context, Asner was, for want of a better term, blacklisted. "Lou Grant" was still in the top-10 when it was cancelled. By all accounts, it should have been renewed for a sixth season. This was the 80s version of McCarthyism.
14:29--Nelson Rockefeller died of a heart attack at 70 on Jan. 26, 1979, a year after this episode originally aired. He served as governor of New York from January 1959 to December 1973, and as Gerald Ford's vice president from December 1974 until January 1977.
Awesome episode! Love that scene when Billie relays the climactic moments of the airplane. Almost sounds like a coverage on radio. Love how the newsroom bustles with activity in this episode!
Thank you for the personal reminder that each of our perceptions of this world is SO varied! For me, this episode was "okay", but the writing and acting on the "climactic moments" was banal and I chose to read the comments over viewing again! I really need a trip to the library to satisfy my periodic boredom with a good book! I appreciate the wake up call!
Linda Kelsey (Billie) was in one of the best episodes of "Mary Tyler Moore", playing an old classmate of Mary's who gets a job at WJM TV. She did a great job playing a real dingbat. And then she got a role on "Lou Grant"! She was always a really good actress.
13:22 MRS. PYNCHON IS VERY INTERESTED IN ENDANGERED SPECIES -. YES, THIS IS WHY SHE OWNS A NEWSPAPER ::::::::::::::::::::::::::) You have to love Lou Grant, no wonder the show turned me into an Edward Asner fan. Fun Fact: Before mostly he had played in movies and shows the bad guy roles as in EL DORADO with John Woyne.
I found that line funny because while Seattle gets the reputation, Jacksonville gets the rain, particularly during the afternoon sea breeze and Florida nor'easters. I ought to know because I, regrettably, used to live in Jacksonville.
This was a great episode. Great writing and first class actors - too bad they can't do this today. Realism has been replaced by pretense. Know why? Because people today are too scared to look at themselves in the mirror, most cast no reflection anyway.
Episode was written by Charles Einstein, who worked for several newspapers and wire services as well as writing quite a few books, including a marvelous biography of Willie Mays the year he made the Hall of Fame.
News reporters stay up late for stories, because they're devoted to getting the story out. I was a reporter for eight years at an online local paper - meetings would last until midnight, I'd finish and file the story by 2 AM, then it was up at 7 AM for my OTHER job!
I could relate totallly to this episode, Back in the mid-1970s, I was sports editor of a little daily in Ypsilant, MI. I lived about five blocks from the paper. One snowy morning, I woke up and trudged through the snow to get to the Press. I found I was the only staff member to make it to the paper. The composing room was there, but the editor-in-chief, news editor, news writers and all other staff members were all snowed in. It was the biggest storm of the winter. Somehow, the paper got out. All the local news copy was edited. My four sports pages were done without a thing missing. There was a lot of wire copy. But around Noon, the paper got out. I was an editor for over two decades, but I'll never that snowy day in Ypsilanti, Michigan.
Reminds me of a play done for Playhouse 90 where the emphasis was on the people on the ground effected by the problem instead of those aboard the airplane. The play is available on youtube and is worth watching. I recommend it
Why did Wardrobe give the lady sitting next to Charlie's Daughter a wig/style that belongs to the 1920's?! Is it the wig Bette Davis wore in Mr. Skeffington?!
20 cents!!!!! That's what they were charging for newspapers at that time. I feel so old now. The New York Daily News and the New York Post are now $2 each per day. What is a 1000% increase. And believe me today's paper is much smaller. The paper size is smaller, the page count is less, and the actual typeset for news is much less. Today's newspaper is more like an insert from the papers of yesteryear. And they don't seem to do any reporting anymore. They just picked up stories off the wire services.
And even the wire copy is flimsy at best. Oh, but they sure manage to cram all manner of advertisements into the paper nowadays! That's about the only thing they don't skimp on!
Unfortunately, that is very true! I suspect that the main question (if not the only question) would have been: "How can we spin, twist and sensationalize this to put more money in the pockets of our shareholders?" I shudder even thinking about it!
@@thomash.schwed3662 That may be so but I was referring to how different the story would have been given the changes in phone technology which would have altered the script significantly.
I was on a flight to Denver a year after this aired and we had a similar situation happen. The wheels on my side of the plane didn't extend to into the locked position. We dumped fuel over some crops. We landed sideways and the wing was flexing and bouncing about two feet off of the ground. Fire trucks were on both sides of the plane chasing us down the runway. Some passengers were freaking out and yelling. Like that helps.
So, the guy that sits down with Grant and his boss at lunch, his he Dr Erso from Rouge One? Sure looks like him. He put an ad in their paper and later put a thermal exhaust port less than 2M wide on the Death Star.
"It's a schematic of the airport, it's at the library... Wait, I can just look it up on my smartphone on the Internet.... Wait... The Internet won't be invented for 20 years.... I hate the 70s 😞"
This show was from 10 to 11 pm. On a school night and my mom would send me to bed at 10 and I would say aw c’mon I want to watch the show but she said no. When I did get to stay up and watch a show from 10 to 11 I always fell asleep on the floor anyway and my mom would yell at me to get up and get to bed. Simple times. We all (my 5 siblings and I) would spend time together watching what’s on television and no one had their own tv or phone, we were all connected in that way. No too shabby.
You had sophisticated taste in television then. Good for you.
This is some of the best TV made in the late 70's!! Odd how quickly people forget this....
Totally agree. Shows like this are forgotten today because they get very little syndication. As I recall, Lou Grant was not shown very often after it went off the air, even during the 80s. Out of sight, out of mind.
+Dennis Nayland Smith: Ed Asner was being punished for his politics. I had an opportunity once to meet him, shake his hand, and tell him how great I thought he was and how much I admired him.
BruceK10032 I would love to meet him also Bruce because I also admire what he stands for. I am aware that he fell out of favor in Hollywood because of his political viewpoints. I find it very tragic that in a country such as ours, which prides itself on its First Amendment liberties, such things can happen.
den o
Do you mean what were his politics? That was at the time of the wars in Central America. At the risk of oversimplifying things, I'll attempt to put it in very short terms: In El Salvador, the U.S. was supporting a government that was terrorizing its people with torture and death squads. They were targeting a broad range of people including intellectuals, labor union activists, and Catholic priests. They had assassinated the archbishop and stormed the university, shooting students and teachers in the hallways. In Nicaragua, the U.S. had organized, trained, and funded a terrorist group that was waging a campaign of rape, torture, and death in an effort to overthrow the government there. Asner was publicly opposed to these roles of the United States in Central America. He was working with an organization that was sending medical aid to the victims.
BruceK10032 And just to add to what you said Bruce, contrary to the popular spin put on the comments Asner made at the time, he did not support the leftist movements in Central America at the time but he simply stated that if that's what the people in those nations vote for then we must respect their decision. After all, don't we claim to support democracy? But because too many very stupid people in politics took these comments completely out of context, Asner was, for want of a better term, blacklisted. "Lou Grant" was still in the top-10 when it was cancelled. By all accounts, it should have been renewed for a sixth season. This was the 80s version of McCarthyism.
Memories of the old pay phones. An era gone by.
Your dime, not mine.
Almost forgot how good these shows are! Thank You for the uploads!!
14:29--Nelson Rockefeller died of a heart attack at 70 on Jan. 26, 1979, a year after this episode originally aired. He served as governor of New York from January 1959 to December 1973, and as Gerald Ford's vice president from December 1974 until January 1977.
Incredibly gripping episode. Exquisitely crafted.
Awesome episode! Love that scene when Billie relays the climactic moments of the airplane. Almost sounds like a coverage on radio.
Love how the newsroom bustles with activity in this episode!
Thank you for the personal reminder that each of our perceptions of this world is SO varied! For me, this episode was "okay", but the writing and acting on the "climactic moments" was banal and I chose to read the comments over viewing again! I really need a trip to the library to satisfy my periodic boredom with a good book! I appreciate the wake up call!
Linda Kelsey (Billie) was in one of the best episodes of "Mary Tyler Moore", playing an old classmate of Mary's who gets a job at WJM TV. She did a great job playing a real dingbat. And then she got a role on "Lou Grant"! She was always a really good actress.
One of the best "Lou Grant" episodes, hands down! :-)
13:22 MRS. PYNCHON IS VERY INTERESTED IN ENDANGERED SPECIES -. YES, THIS IS WHY SHE OWNS A NEWSPAPER ::::::::::::::::::::::::::) You have to love Lou Grant, no wonder the show turned me into an Edward Asner fan.
Fun Fact: Before mostly he had played in movies and shows the bad guy roles as in EL DORADO with John Woyne.
You are correct. He did and was mainly a character actor
He also played a bad guy in an episode of the "Fugitive" Might be more than one Check IMDB
Yeah, thanks for the crack about the rain in Seattle. We love L.A. too.
I found that line funny because while Seattle gets the reputation, Jacksonville gets the rain, particularly during the afternoon sea breeze and Florida nor'easters. I ought to know because I, regrettably, used to live in Jacksonville.
Airdate Jan. 13th, 1978. Season 1 had manual typewriters and rotary phones. Season 3 (1979) was the switch to computers.
A brilliant series. Far superior to anything on TV these days
The dumb bird is a nightingale. I had the same problem in my old apartment.
I hate when I start to hear the birds in Spring in the morning. They do affect sleep 😴
Good to know thanks
This was a great episode. Great writing and first class actors - too bad they can't do this today. Realism has been replaced by pretense.
Know why? Because people today are too scared to look at themselves in the mirror, most cast no reflection anyway.
Episode was written by Charles Einstein, who worked for several newspapers and wire services as well as writing quite a few books, including a marvelous biography of Willie Mays the year he made the Hall of Fame.
The speech Mrs. Pynchon gives about the 39-minute mark is epic for anyone who's ever been in on a big story.
News reporters stay up late for stories, because they're devoted to getting the story out. I was a reporter for eight years at an online local paper - meetings would last until midnight, I'd finish and file the story by 2 AM, then it was up at 7 AM for my OTHER job!
I could relate totallly to this episode, Back in the mid-1970s, I was sports editor of a little daily in Ypsilant, MI. I lived about five blocks from the paper. One snowy morning, I woke up and trudged through the snow to get to the Press. I found I was the only staff member to make it to the paper. The composing room was there, but the editor-in-chief, news editor, news writers and all other staff members were all snowed in. It was the biggest storm of the winter. Somehow, the paper got out. All the local news copy was edited. My four sports pages were done without a thing missing. There was a lot of wire copy. But around Noon, the paper got out. I was an editor for over two decades, but I'll never that snowy day in Ypsilanti, Michigan.
I think this 14th episode was the best so far.
Absolutely!
The moment Joanie said she was reading Albert Camus (in French, no less), I was in love.
This episode made me want to watch 'Airplane' again
"Jim never has a second cup of coffee at home."
Art's girlfriend delivered that line in "Airplane!"
Loved it, thank you for uploading
Reminds me of a play done for Playhouse 90 where the emphasis was on the people on the ground effected by the problem instead of those aboard the airplane. The play is available on youtube and is worth watching. I recommend it
Airdate Jan. 3rd, 1978. 2:49 Camus vs. Robbins.
Cousin Oliver!
Who looks a lot like David Baxter! :-D
~I knew as soon as he got in bed, the bird was going to whistle!
Why did Wardrobe give the lady sitting next to Charlie's Daughter a wig/style that belongs to the 1920's?! Is it the wig Bette Davis wore in Mr. Skeffington?!
20 cents!!!!! That's what they were charging for newspapers at that time. I feel so old now. The New York Daily News and the New York Post are now $2 each per day. What is a 1000% increase. And believe me today's paper is much smaller. The paper size is smaller, the page count is less, and the actual typeset for news is much less. Today's newspaper is more like an insert from the papers of yesteryear. And they don't seem to do any reporting anymore. They just picked up stories off the wire services.
And even the wire copy is flimsy at best. Oh, but they sure manage to cram all manner of advertisements into the paper nowadays! That's about the only thing they don't skimp on!
Did you spot Ted's son from the MTMS?
Lou's world had a lot of doppelgangers! :-D
That's Cousin Oliver.
Doesn't the P.R. guy's jacket look eerily similar to Ted Baxter's jacket when he was on the air at WJN?
Wish we would have seen more of the people on the plane during this
strange to see the actor of inspector Cramer from the Nero Wolfe Serie with Wiliam Conrad.
How was Rossi seeing what was happening to plane from where phones were?!
Space Mountain was the best ride ever.
The script would have been so different if this episode were written today.
Unfortunately, that is very true! I suspect that the main question (if not the only question) would have been: "How can we spin, twist and sensationalize this to put more money in the pockets of our shareholders?" I shudder even thinking about it!
@@thomash.schwed3662 That may be so but I was referring to how different the story would have been given the changes in phone technology which would have altered the script significantly.
@@1locust1 You're definitely right about that!
Art Donovan’s date was one of the wives in “Airplane,” right? Plus her son is (the annoying) Robbie Rist!🤪😆
“Jim never vomits at home!”
Hi Bob Saget
A good episode and one of my favorites of the series, but it is a little heavy on cutesy lines.
Ah, back when people liked the Space Shuttle.
The space shuttle wouldn't fly until 1981, but Edwards was still being prepped to handle it.
By next year, we'll have to explain to today's snowflakes what a newspaper was.
I was on a flight to Denver a year after this aired and we had a similar situation happen. The wheels on my side of the plane didn't extend to into the locked position. We dumped fuel over some crops. We landed sideways and the wing was flexing and bouncing about two feet off of the ground. Fire trucks were on both sides of the plane chasing us down the runway. Some passengers were freaking out and yelling. Like that helps.
If Billie threatened Ray like that today, she'd be in a world of shit.
WHAT is with the kissing in the lips?
So, the guy that sits down with Grant and his boss at lunch, his he Dr Erso from Rouge One? Sure looks like him. He put an ad in their paper and later put a thermal exhaust port less than 2M wide on the Death Star.
That issue with the landing gear.... Pretty sure they make a pill for that now.
I let myself out.
"It's a schematic of the airport, it's at the library... Wait, I can just look it up on my smartphone on the Internet.... Wait... The Internet won't be invented for 20 years.... I hate the 70s 😞"
The internet makes everything easier to find out. Does away with the local library.
More like 15 years. This episode aired in 1978, and I remember the internet came in around 1993.