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I mean I'm going to keep playing regardless of the lore or what happens, although I hope they don't. But it would bed kind of hard for them to bring him back in full for this expansion, maybe just like what they will most likely do with Garrosh
As much as I don’t like Blizz right now I think their intention was to touch on Arthus during this Xpac. Like there’s so much lore centered around him and we are now in the Shadowlands, which has so much tie in with Him. It would be insane if we went the entire xpac and didn’t have him appear. He is one of the most important characters in all of Warcraft and we are really realizing the depth of his actions beyond what we knew before Shadowlands. This isn’t a break glass moment but this is only my opinion. You may not agree but to me this seems like their plan all along.
@@michaelcobb9543 We went all of BFA without digging up Admiral Proudmoore's grave. Jaina's dad was allowed to rest in peace, with only a brief spiritual silent cameo during her Warbringer to send her off on what would have been a well written right path, if they didnt retcon her to be a horde lover again in 2 patches. They shouldnt need to regurgitate 18 year old characters that died 10 years ago. Esp since they had to do so much stupid bullshit to get to that point. Uther was trapped in Frostmourne, how was he both trapped in Frostmourne and simultaneously at the moment of Arthas' death, seconds after the sword was shattered, ALREADY a Kyrian dumping Arthas into the Maw? Its just shitty writing leave Arthas alone. He already got it bad enough when he was punked out by a few no name adventurers in a 10 man raid.
The campaign story involved several characters' storyline. You don't get a full straight forward storyline of a specific character in game. I appreciate he's trying to piece all the bits and pieces together to make a story.
Thank you. Three new cutscenes were added when this questline went live on Tuesday, so not sure if people are seeing them somewhere else but first time posting them on this channel. Before this, it was just the memories of Uther with the in-game dialogue. This just compiles everything in sequence for those who want to keep updated on the Kyrian finale for 9.1.
That is an intentional design by Blizzard's writing team. It allows them to link multiple plots together, as they have been doing since day one. Look at how involved the Legion was in almost everything. Look at how much the Old Gods were involved. Why is it soooo hard now for people to believe Zovaal had his hands in everything too??? If the lore has taught us anything over time, it is that the cosmological forces do not sit idly by, EVER. They are always plotting against each other.
It's been repeatedly demonstrated that _nothing_ can cure the Plague. Not mortal healers, not Alexstrasza, not even a Naaru. So Arthas had two choices. Kill them before they turned, saving them the suffering... Or wait for them to turn, and end up killing them in zombie form anyway.
@@XtremeSuperJason Well, he kind of dicked over the contingent he brought with him to Northrend to hunt for Mal'Ganis. Buuuut pretty much everything after that was a direct result of having his soul ripped out of his body by Frostmourne and becoming a Death Knight.
Uther has always been one of my favourite characters and I'm glad that he's returning to what made me love him, his compassion and beliefs. Also I can finally not feel bad about joining the kyrian since they're allowing people to keep their memories, that was the one hiccup I had with them. I couldn't imagine dying and being forced to forget my husband and children. Also Uther's voice acting is phenomenal here.
I cant imagine still caring that much about playing wow, and keeping track of the lore of your factions lmao... when every expansion is just the same thing over and over and over
"Also Uther's voice acting is phenomenal here" realy?!! and here i thought the voice actor did a terrible job since it sound WAY TOO MUCH like illidan...
Currently I love to see uther go save arthas from the maw, so we have two choices either arthas is in anduin blade or he is still trapped somewhere in the maw,also the third option is we never meet him at all but one of the kyrian said he had a chance of redemption I would love to see that
Am I the only one that finds it odd that Arthas has been constantly mentioned throughout a good majority of Shadowlands but has never made an appearance yet?
In the end Anduin should break free after seeing his father ...Zovaal gets desperate and tries to dominate sylvanas ...theres lightning and shit hitting her and shes frying ...suddenly Zovaal's arm is sliced off ...hes screaming and shit ...and bam...its Arthas ..Arthas Anduin Varien Sylvanas combine attacks and take down the jailer .... Arthas then after an emotional exchange with Sylvanas together with Anduin's light are able to tear away the Banshee curse on Sylvanas ...straight into the new expansion where the horde and alliance can play together and no one gets molested
@@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460 arthas doesn't need redemption because he didn't do anything wrong, the lich king actions were not arthas it was nerzhul in his body, people inworld knowing this and that the undead plague is uncurable and still blaming arthas just shows shit logic and atrocious blizzard writing is nothing new, which was very flawed and idiotic at times in w3 it got a lot worse with wow, and wotlk is just retcon gorefest butchering what was pre-estabilished, which was already incoherent and idiotic (Uther and jaina not siding with arthas despiting knowing they couldnt cure the plague and the whole city would become undead which would cost a huge amount of their men's lives to stop if they would even be able to at the time and would be a threat to everyone in Lordaeron not just them)
Well Devos kind of took advantage of his vulnerable position at that time. And shame we only got to see Devos in the story until her fall in the dungeon.
Argh! Not to sound mean but why are you recycling these videos? It’s like I look at the same video a week after with just a few new bits of conversation.
Argh. This be the questline that came out on Tuesday. This also has the 3 new cutscenes that haven't been posted on this channel yet. Uther's memories are there for continuity.
I feel like the lack of lip syncing in their cut scenes is the problem. This uther/kyrian output is what everything should have been like from the beginning. I feel like theyve designed the covenants but the cut scenes supporting them have been crap up until now for me.
I've got to disagree with that assessment just a bit. If I remember back to the Pandaria campaign, especially the scene between Anduin, Garrosh, and the Mogu bell. There was no attempt at lip-syncing, but the scenes felt wonderful. The problem isn't the medium of telling the story, it's that the story itself is so abstract and forced. Vague concepts of death, the covenants restrictive ideologies, and general bad writing would not be fixed by lip-syncing.
@@Wegrosteak I agree with you. I meant to put a major issue for me personally not the whole issue btw. Was a mistake haha The lore could be good, but theyve spent too much time doing vague cinematics that leave more questions than answers. Some cliff hangers are good but it coms across more half done or they dont know where to go with it when they write it.
yeah exactly man i feel the same thing, warcraft 1 to 3 to MoP had great lore since garrosh was the main focus there, but nowadays it became like the movie "Frozen" with each cutscene they include an annoying ass kids song, they trynna make arthas look gay even though he was badass in warcraft 3 story, sad how this blizzard team has a bleeding heart trynna bring back characters that are suppose to stay untouched like arthas or garrosh and trynna make gay characters evil like anduin although it looks like his top evil is when he changes into a teletabiz character singing those songs. Point is blizzard is trying it's best to create more story based on the ash of already used characters that died in the game (uther,arthas,varyin,garrosh,grom) are all great characters who died leaving good lore behind them, no need to bring them back with emotions and bleeding hearts, that insults their existence
Except Uther did listen to Arthas when he showed his doubts about his path, his anxieties. He didn't just pressure him about the great expectations he'd need to meet... _"Lad, no one feels ready. No one feels he deserves it. And you know why? Because no one does. It's grace, pure and simple. We are inherently unworthy, simply because we're human, and all human beings--aye, and elves, and dwarves, and all the other races--are flawed. But the Light loves us anyway. It loves us for what we sometimes can rise to in rare moments. It loves us for what we can do to help others. And it loves us because we can help it share its message by striving daily to be worthy, even though we understand that we can't ever truly become so. So stand there today, as I did, feeling that you can't possibly deserve it or ever be worthy, and know that you're in the same place every single paladin has ever stood."_ But Blizzard never remembers their own lore. I loved Uther, but Shadowlands ruined his legacy and put the final nails in the dead corpses of the Light and Paladin lore.
I always liked Arthas because he was a good villain. He wanted to protect his people and vengeance and it caused him to go on a path that lead to all of his foul deeds. I feel like they've ruined Arthas and Uther. Granted I haven't read any of the books or played the game since Cataclysm. Seeing them so far from what I remember them as is quite jarring.
Yeah, this is some pretty poor writing I'll say... Blizzard have truly thrust themselves headfirst on a downward spiral to mediocrity at this point. WC3 had such an excellent story and look where we are now, it's a complete mockery in every way imaginable. Literally everything mentioned in the video could have been cut down to 2-3 minutes, tops and we wouldn't be left wanting whatsoever. Then again, Blizzard is highly likely to pull Arthas out of it's ass (the maw) whenever their investors notice a scathing decline in profits, should such come to pass of course. That notion reminds me of myself in my younger years playing Magic: The Gathering and playing the Wrath of God or Cyclonic Rift when SHTF and coming out on top haha 🤣!!
my preferred way to bring arthas back would be some scenario where the jailor or one of his people is about to kill or turn Jaina, and Arthas somehow arrives on the battle field in the darkest moment to save her. just the thought of jaina opening her eyes, seeing the true arthas back and protecting her, and hearing her say "Arthas..." would just be amazing and emotional. now of course this will not happen because blizzard is crap at writing.
actually, the final fight will be the jailor about to torture and kill all the main protagonists, and as he is about to kill jaina, Arthas breaks from anduins blade, shatters it in half, like tirion did to his. and the light comes down and starts resurrecting us all to fight the jailor that is trapped within light, totally rehashing the fight with arthas from the beginning
My preferred way is just the same as yours except when Jaina opens her eyes, Arthas stabs her, and tells her I wanted to kill you myself, because that's what a disgusting traitor deserves.
I love this storyline, Uther stills suffering for his burden, it will be great to see a Uther trying to save his Student and Friend in the Maw, remember Kel'Thuzad words.. The Lich King (Ner'Zhul) prevent the actions of Arthas as a Paladin to make his toy and control the Scourge.. i personally think that Arthas sacrifices all for the good of his people, so he deserves redemption, also a speech after all those years living in those actions as a spectator inside his controlled body, like Anduin.. Thanks for these videos man! Loved it all and i will still waiting for more!
The most tragic part is how Arthas doesn't even struggle. In his mind, he too believes this is what he deserves. And I'm just going to head things off by saying that while I personally think he deserved a proper trial and a punishment fitting his actions that I do not believe he is entirely guilt free either. While for the best of intentions, he still decided to go to Northrend and take up Frostmorne even though he knew it was cursed. And that act caused a string of actions that lead to the death and damnation of an untold number of innocent lives. Regardless though, he did not deserve to be cast into the maw without a fair trial. And the fact he does not fight or struggle is indication of the guilt that weighed on him in that moment. Arthas, for all that he did, was once a good man who legitimately wanted the best for his people. And here at the end, he knows he cannot undo all that he did. So he accepts what he feels is a just punishment
Giving the lore the best spin possible; I don't know if this is what Blizzard intended but I can see it from reading between the lines. The sigils that were stolen were created with the intent to keep Zoval jailed within the Maw and stripping him of his power. These new sigils would have been useless to Zoval since they are being created without the intent of suppressing his power.
You can make another Key if you lose one. Doesn’t make the key you lost any less important. The sigils being lost was bad because they could be used to free the Jailer, not because they themselves were unrecoverable or remakeable. And the Jailer still likely had the the original sigils.
So Jaina during BFA and Uther here, their main lesson is to offload responsibility. The ones reassuring the two of them tell them it’s not their fault and they shouldn’t blame themselves. Except it was their fault and accepting that is important. Not surprising, I bet the writers are big “omg therapy” types and too many contemporary therapists are all about offloading responsibility (which just creates more problems.)
Last quote made me think... where is Tirion? Will we see him in the maw soon? I hope so, I miss him, he taught me compassion and restraint, his heroism was ideal.
everything about the uther arc was good up until he said that Devos led him down a dark path and that he "it was not his choice". sure devos manipulated him but ultimately he chose to throw Arthas into the maw for what he did, he chose retribution.
Man, I'm coming back from having played through Uther's storyline through the Warcraft games and poking through the WOW expansions as they came out. I'm floored at the quality of the animations, the effects, the voice acting, and ofc the story telling that they've brought back to finish these characters stories.
"What *fate* befell *Arthas* in the End?" "At the moment of his death, Devos and I claimed his soul, and cast it *into* the *Maw*" "Without the Arbiter's knowledge? So he might yet have had a chance at *redemption*?"
I am not sure what would the Arbiter role would be in this? Aren't she supposed to bring Arthas soul back to be judged "the right way" before casting him "justly" in the maw by Uther 1 side soul?
The fact they dedicate a whole questline to Uther reliving his memories of Arthas as guilt and regret signals he may be one of the few to go after him. Then there's others who say his soul crystal may have been used to make Anduin's mourneblade, so we may see Arthas when we go to free Anduin.
@@blackhand2850 are you an idiot, therea nothing wrong in EARNING HONEST money, people actually work to earn they dont just upload the same video the same time to squeeze youtube for cents
Since I left the game this is however..interesting. I hope they bring Arthas back somehow. He is the only character that has this strong aura and charisma that is more interesting than Sylvanas boring redemption arc that I wished gone extreme rather than salvation. But people change 😂 But yeah lets see where this .. goes!?
Uther wasn't the brightest Paladin. Probably the most ignorant. I still feel like Arthas made the right call for Stratholme. He stopped the plague from spreading but was consumed by hatred against Malganis which in turned lead him to the path in Northrend to become the Lich King. I feel like if Uther stayed to help him, that wouldn't have happened. He would have remained calm and rational. Its the stupidity of Jaina and Uther walking out on him that drove him into extreme measures. Someone had to clean up the mess and Uther and Jaina chose to check out rather than figure out how to solve the issue at hand. Uther I feel is a very weak character. Arthas on the other hand fully committed to his crusade at the cost of his soul. I think it would make sense for Arthas to find redemption in the Maw so that he's whole again.
Why didn't they just copy paste the wc3 dialogue voices instead of re-doing them sub-par all over again? it literally killed the whole vibe of how awesome this could've been..
what fate befell Arthas? blizzard brought him back for one trailer, and after everyone bought the expansion they killed him off-screen and destroyed his soul and whatever else may have remained of him now he lives only in our memories. may the people responsible suffer for the rest of their lives. if videogames made people violent they would need to live the rest of their lives under witness protection.
You know what this means? The King Will Return. At least I hope arthas gets a redemption arc, he kinda deserves it. Also I can just imagine his music playing as he returns in a blaze of glory to destroy his jailer.
All this, only for Blizzard to do Arthas dirty and have him as a fragment of a soul that just disappears. What a joke, and an out of touch decision to make. This expansion has been a shit show lore wise, I would rather have BFA again.
Lich king Uther Kelthuzad all of them voiced by same person. Man he is truly the voice of wolk expansion. he is the voice of our childhood. Dont ruin wow more blizzard.
I'm so tired of Blizzard trying to redeem mass murdering genocidal war villains. Arthas & Sylvannas are both responsible for the deaths of thousands of souls. There is no redeeming them or coming back from that.
if the storywriters suddenly go and tell that Devos was working for the jailer i will lose my sh*t, she definitely wasnt, and was driven more by personal issues, not some grandpa death bs edit: no new content on this video, sadly
Didn't the dialogue from the Spires of Ascension confirm that Devos chose the path she did because of Uther's memories _along with_ listening to the Jailer's words?
its not about fucking lip syncing bois. its about that the player CANT develop an emotional attachment to any of these characters, because the quests aren't designed to do that. Some fucking cinematics won't make us attached to any character. The quest design is flawed and makes the characters feel distant, bec the storyline doesnt fucking include them as much as it should.
tbh, they should bring back Arthas! At least, AT LEAST for Jaina! She deserves an eternity of peace with Arthas! Its been the longest for her now, her love and her wait! She now deserves to be happy too! I cant wait for that day! For them to hug each other and know, this time they won’t be separated and are with each other, always forever! 😭
We should have met Arthas in the maw or at least have some kind of quest from Kyrian to try to see if his soul can be redeemed. He was jailers pawn after all..
Uther gets an excuse/redemption, sylvanas gets an excuse and is looking like may get redemption, anduin gets an excuse and will most certainly get redemption, where tf is Arthas’s chance!
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Hiya Folks! With the release of the Uther Kyrian questline earlier this week, 3 new cutscenes were added in addition to the previous memories of Uther. This compiles the questline in its entirety, in sequence. The new cutscenes are actually of the more better made ones this patch, with the movements & lip synch showing improvement. As of now, this is the closest we get to uncovering Arthas' fate in the maw, but some have stated he may have been used as a soul crystal in making Anduin's mourneblade. It remains to be seen. And since the Arbiter did not judge his soul, then redemption may be possible.
I'm thinking Blizzard is getting closer and closer to fulfilling the long running meme of breaking out Arthas incase of emergency. 😂
Well, it worked with Illidan.
@@fluffybacon Illidan was a literal "break glass" moment
I mean I'm going to keep playing regardless of the lore or what happens, although I hope they don't.
But it would bed kind of hard for them to bring him back in full for this expansion, maybe just like what they will most likely do with Garrosh
As much as I don’t like Blizz right now I think their intention was to touch on Arthus during this Xpac. Like there’s so much lore centered around him and we are now in the Shadowlands, which has so much tie in with Him. It would be insane if we went the entire xpac and didn’t have him appear. He is one of the most important characters in all of Warcraft and we are really realizing the depth of his actions beyond what we knew before Shadowlands. This isn’t a break glass moment but this is only my opinion. You may not agree but to me this seems like their plan all along.
@@michaelcobb9543 We went all of BFA without digging up Admiral Proudmoore's grave. Jaina's dad was allowed to rest in peace, with only a brief spiritual silent cameo during her Warbringer to send her off on what would have been a well written right path, if they didnt retcon her to be a horde lover again in 2 patches.
They shouldnt need to regurgitate 18 year old characters that died 10 years ago.
Esp since they had to do so much stupid bullshit to get to that point. Uther was trapped in Frostmourne, how was he both trapped in Frostmourne and simultaneously at the moment of Arthas' death, seconds after the sword was shattered, ALREADY a Kyrian dumping Arthas into the Maw?
Its just shitty writing leave Arthas alone. He already got it bad enough when he was punked out by a few no name adventurers in a 10 man raid.
I miss the old voice of Arthas.. 🙁
But instead it was Dio!
Yeah I remember him always saying Uther with such strength and deep voice, great voice actor back then
@@ThermonuclearThighs Kono Dio Da!
@@sapphire_raven How many people did Arthas purge?
How many breads have you eaten in your life?
Can you imagine Uther rescuing Arthas from the Maw and helping him rebuild his soul since it was somewhat consumed by Frostmourn.
Some have said that Arthas is that soul crystal used to make Jailer’s Mourneblade. Maybe we’ll see Arthas when we try to free Anduin?
@@Athelarius or these Dreadlord‘s free him and give him the sword of Sire Denathrius ;)
@@blackchecker2009 that makes absolutely zero sence.
It can't be done, you see. No-one can escape the maw.
@@blindmarian No one.
Except all Azerothian livings, and the jailer minions, and tyrande, and anduin, and the jailer himself, and sylvanas... Oh....
As my grandmama used to say, "someone that clickbaits you once may very well do it again. Don't bother being subscribed to them"
"Vengeance cannot be a part of what we must do. If we allow our passions to turn to bloodlust, we will become as vile as the orcs." -Uther to Arthas
But if Uther does it, it's justice, not vengeance. Until sad Uther meets chill Uther from Azeroth, and together form semi-depressed Uther again.
@@Athelarius If we ever get the two to meet one another which I doubt blizzard will ever do.
Uther…that’s racist.
Well, so, in the end Uther abandoned Arthas in its key Moment. Wasnt it Arthas who saw the greater picture?
So this is why Tyrande left vengeance behind her and chose the renewal path
well, at least this allows me to watch the new story that drips out without needing to pay...
same with me :)
@@sapphire_raven yeah, don't need to lay to stay in nexus
"To the brave champions of Azeroth, Fearun awaits you."
Imagine Arthas .... Helping to destroy the Jailer in the final Raid.
It may yet be true!
They already did something Similar with Garrosh.
It would be interesting if Arthas is what helps Anduin defy the jailors will
Would be one of the only redeeming qualities of shadowlands
The ultimate redemption of Arthas
The campaign story involved several characters' storyline. You don't get a full straight forward storyline of a specific character in game. I appreciate he's trying to piece all the bits and pieces together to make a story.
Thank you. Three new cutscenes were added when this questline went live on Tuesday, so not sure if people are seeing them somewhere else but first time posting them on this channel. Before this, it was just the memories of Uther with the in-game dialogue. This just compiles everything in sequence for those who want to keep updated on the Kyrian finale for 9.1.
That is an intentional design by Blizzard's writing team. It allows them to link multiple plots together, as they have been doing since day one. Look at how involved the Legion was in almost everything. Look at how much the Old Gods were involved. Why is it soooo hard now for people to believe Zovaal had his hands in everything too??? If the lore has taught us anything over time, it is that the cosmological forces do not sit idly by, EVER. They are always plotting against each other.
Stratholme was the right choice, and nothing will change my mind about it
It's been repeatedly demonstrated that _nothing_ can cure the Plague. Not mortal healers, not Alexstrasza, not even a Naaru. So Arthas had two choices. Kill them before they turned, saving them the suffering... Or wait for them to turn, and end up killing them in zombie form anyway.
Arthas did nothing wrong
@@XtremeSuperJason Well, he kind of dicked over the contingent he brought with him to Northrend to hunt for Mal'Ganis.
Buuuut pretty much everything after that was a direct result of having his soul ripped out of his body by Frostmourne and becoming a Death Knight.
@@FrozenxDeath if uther and jaina were not such idiots, they might have ended it in stratholme and arthas might not had to go alone to northrend
@@freakindamnshiki The reason Stormtroopers always miss is because if Luke got shot in the face in the first half hour of A New Hope, what then?
Uther has always been one of my favourite characters and I'm glad that he's returning to what made me love him, his compassion and beliefs. Also I can finally not feel bad about joining the kyrian since they're allowing people to keep their memories, that was the one hiccup I had with them. I couldn't imagine dying and being forced to forget my husband and children.
Also Uther's voice acting is phenomenal here.
Would you even know, if you were made to forget?
I cant imagine still caring that much about playing wow, and keeping track of the lore of your factions lmao...
when every expansion is just the same thing over and over and over
"Also Uther's voice acting is phenomenal here" realy?!! and here i thought the voice actor did a terrible job since it sound WAY TOO MUCH like illidan...
Currently I love to see uther go save arthas from the maw, so we have two choices either arthas is in anduin blade or he is still trapped somewhere in the maw,also the third option is we never meet him at all but one of the kyrian said he had a chance of redemption I would love to see that
I do appreciate Uther getting swarmed by Ghouls. We all know that’s the only reason Arthas one that mission.
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"I will endure WHATEVER i must, to be whole again!" literally 5 seconds later "ow ow ow maywalker please hold my hand! i cannot endure this!"
Am I the only one that finds it odd that Arthas has been constantly mentioned throughout a good majority of Shadowlands but has never made an appearance yet?
Just wait for 9.3: The Raise of Lich King 2: Electric Boogaloo
I gues we will se arthas again. I gues blizz is preparing us for him
In the end Anduin should break free after seeing his father ...Zovaal gets desperate and tries to dominate sylvanas ...theres lightning and shit hitting her and shes frying ...suddenly Zovaal's arm is sliced off ...hes screaming and shit ...and bam...its Arthas ..Arthas Anduin Varien Sylvanas combine attacks and take down the jailer .... Arthas then after an emotional exchange with Sylvanas together with Anduin's light are able to tear away the Banshee curse on Sylvanas ...straight into the new expansion where the horde and alliance can play together and no one gets molested
Blizzard keep making these redemption storylines so we get the hint to forgive them for what they've done.
First Blizz keep forcing them to do stupid things, then making redemptions.
Honestly, Arthas being redeemed would be the one good thing of the expansion. But, knowing Blizzard, it'll never happen.
@@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460 arthas doesn't need redemption because he didn't do anything wrong, the lich king actions were not arthas it was nerzhul in his body, people inworld knowing this and that the undead plague is uncurable and still blaming arthas just shows shit logic and atrocious blizzard writing is nothing new, which was very flawed and idiotic at times in w3 it got a lot worse with wow, and wotlk is just retcon gorefest butchering what was pre-estabilished, which was already incoherent and idiotic (Uther and jaina not siding with arthas despiting knowing they couldnt cure the plague and the whole city would become undead which would cost a huge amount of their men's lives to stop if they would even be able to at the time and would be a threat to everyone in Lordaeron not just them)
Hell, let's redeem Kael'thas or Sargeras too, while we're at it, why not! XD
It's a crime Arthas didn't get an update for this.
They got other crimes to worry about
@@GarredHATES Oops
@@GarredHATES not if you're a paying customer. Which is exactly why I am no longer a paying customer.
The sad part is they already have an updated model... they made one for a three-second segment in Battle for Azeroth.
In the end even Uther can be swayed to a dark path, it was not right for him to judge Arthus and not let him redeem himself.
Well Devos kind of took advantage of his vulnerable position at that time. And shame we only got to see Devos in the story until her fall in the dungeon.
@@Athelarius yeah it's like malganis taunting him. There is no other way you van save these people.
Yes it was lmao, arthas fucking comitted genocide several times over, you don't redeem after that.
Argh! Not to sound mean but why are you recycling these videos?
It’s like I look at the same video a week after with just a few new bits of conversation.
It seems so, especially since multiple storylines are relevant to similar videos
for reals im not a fan of that
Argh. This be the questline that came out on Tuesday. This also has the 3 new cutscenes that haven't been posted on this channel yet. Uther's memories are there for continuity.
I feel like the lack of lip syncing in their cut scenes is the problem. This uther/kyrian output is what everything should have been like from the beginning. I feel like theyve designed the covenants but the cut scenes supporting them have been crap up until now for me.
I've got to disagree with that assessment just a bit. If I remember back to the Pandaria campaign, especially the scene between Anduin, Garrosh, and the Mogu bell. There was no attempt at lip-syncing, but the scenes felt wonderful. The problem isn't the medium of telling the story, it's that the story itself is so abstract and forced. Vague concepts of death, the covenants restrictive ideologies, and general bad writing would not be fixed by lip-syncing.
@@Wegrosteak I agree with you. I meant to put a major issue for me personally not the whole issue btw. Was a mistake haha
The lore could be good, but theyve spent too much time doing vague cinematics that leave more questions than answers. Some cliff hangers are good but it coms across more half done or they dont know where to go with it when they write it.
anyone have the "mario mushroom" sound effect play in their head when the new Paragon got bigger :D
That is not the voice of arthas i remember
I remember playing WC1 - WC3 and some of WoW.
Trying to catch up on lore it seems like WoW became some kind of cheesy soap opera now.
Ok perfect description for it.
yeah exactly man i feel the same thing, warcraft 1 to 3 to MoP had great lore since garrosh was the main focus there, but nowadays it became like the movie "Frozen" with each cutscene they include an annoying ass kids song, they trynna make arthas look gay even though he was badass in warcraft 3 story, sad how this blizzard team has a bleeding heart trynna bring back characters that are suppose to stay untouched like arthas or garrosh and trynna make gay characters evil like anduin although it looks like his top evil is when he changes into a teletabiz character singing those songs. Point is blizzard is trying it's best to create more story based on the ash of already used characters that died in the game (uther,arthas,varyin,garrosh,grom) are all great characters who died leaving good lore behind them, no need to bring them back with emotions and bleeding hearts, that insults their existence
@@BADR00724 i kinda wished for wc4 and so on
Yep
yea. Lots of reboots, revivals.
Uther really threw Devos under the bus on that one
We must learn... compassion. Also, she made me do it, throw all blame on her.
Except Uther did listen to Arthas when he showed his doubts about his path, his anxieties. He didn't just pressure him about the great expectations he'd need to meet...
_"Lad, no one feels ready. No one feels he deserves it. And you know why? Because no one does. It's grace, pure and simple. We are inherently unworthy, simply because we're human, and all human beings--aye, and elves, and dwarves, and all the other races--are flawed. But the Light loves us anyway. It loves us for what we sometimes can rise to in rare moments. It loves us for what we can do to help others. And it loves us because we can help it share its message by striving daily to be worthy, even though we understand that we can't ever truly become so. So stand there today, as I did, feeling that you can't possibly deserve it or ever be worthy, and know that you're in the same place every single paladin has ever stood."_
But Blizzard never remembers their own lore. I loved Uther, but Shadowlands ruined his legacy and put the final nails in the dead corpses of the Light and Paladin lore.
I always liked Arthas because he was a good villain. He wanted to protect his people and vengeance and it caused him to go on a path that lead to all of his foul deeds.
I feel like they've ruined Arthas and Uther. Granted I haven't read any of the books or played the game since Cataclysm. Seeing them so far from what I remember them as is quite jarring.
Yeah, this is some pretty poor writing I'll say... Blizzard have truly thrust themselves headfirst on a downward spiral to mediocrity at this point. WC3 had such an excellent story and look where we are now, it's a complete mockery in every way imaginable. Literally everything mentioned in the video could have been cut down to 2-3 minutes, tops and we wouldn't be left wanting whatsoever.
Then again, Blizzard is highly likely to pull Arthas out of it's ass (the maw) whenever their investors notice a scathing decline in profits, should such come to pass of course. That notion reminds me of myself in my younger years playing Magic: The Gathering and playing the Wrath of God or Cyclonic Rift when SHTF and coming out on top haha
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my preferred way to bring arthas back would be some scenario where the jailor or one of his people is about to kill or turn Jaina, and Arthas somehow arrives on the battle field in the darkest moment to save her. just the thought of jaina opening her eyes, seeing the true arthas back and protecting her, and hearing her say "Arthas..." would just be amazing and emotional.
now of course this will not happen because blizzard is crap at writing.
actually, the final fight will be the jailor about to torture and kill all the main protagonists, and as he is about to kill jaina, Arthas breaks from anduins blade, shatters it in half, like tirion did to his. and the light comes down and starts resurrecting us all to fight the jailor that is trapped within light, totally rehashing the fight with arthas from the beginning
My preferred way is just the same as yours except when Jaina opens her eyes, Arthas stabs her, and tells her I wanted to kill you myself, because that's what a disgusting traitor deserves.
I love this storyline, Uther stills suffering for his burden, it will be great to see a Uther trying to save his Student and Friend in the Maw, remember Kel'Thuzad words.. The Lich King (Ner'Zhul) prevent the actions of Arthas as a Paladin to make his toy and control the Scourge.. i personally think that Arthas sacrifices all for the good of his people, so he deserves redemption, also a speech after all those years living in those actions as a spectator inside his controlled body, like Anduin..
Thanks for these videos man! Loved it all and i will still waiting for more!
Athelarius here milking our attention with Arthas.
XD
You get an Arthas! And you get an Arthas. Arthas for all!
No new content … why upload this ?
Dunno about everyone else, but I would love to see Arthas find redemption at last, and getting to say his apologizes and goodbyes to Jaina.
Im calling it, arthas will be the one to end all of this sacrificing himself
5:33 just imagine this fight. horserider standing still to fight a single soldier on the ground. XD
All 5 McMuffins are needed for our customers breafkast to be McForged. 6:38
The most tragic part is how Arthas doesn't even struggle. In his mind, he too believes this is what he deserves.
And I'm just going to head things off by saying that while I personally think he deserved a proper trial and a punishment fitting his actions that I do not believe he is entirely guilt free either. While for the best of intentions, he still decided to go to Northrend and take up Frostmorne even though he knew it was cursed. And that act caused a string of actions that lead to the death and damnation of an untold number of innocent lives.
Regardless though, he did not deserve to be cast into the maw without a fair trial. And the fact he does not fight or struggle is indication of the guilt that weighed on him in that moment. Arthas, for all that he did, was once a good man who legitimately wanted the best for his people. And here at the end, he knows he cannot undo all that he did. So he accepts what he feels is a just punishment
So we might get the boy back? LETS GOOO
It’s honestly doesn’t make any sense because what is the point of Sigils when you can just make another one after one is stolen.
Giving the lore the best spin possible; I don't know if this is what Blizzard intended but I can see it from reading between the lines. The sigils that were stolen were created with the intent to keep Zoval jailed within the Maw and stripping him of his power. These new sigils would have been useless to Zoval since they are being created without the intent of suppressing his power.
The lore, ladies and gents
You can make another Key if you lose one. Doesn’t make the key you lost any less important. The sigils being lost was bad because they could be used to free the Jailer, not because they themselves were unrecoverable or remakeable. And the Jailer still likely had the the original sigils.
Damn.....the new voice-overs of the old WC3 lines is so sub-par compared to the originals from WC3........
True. I'm still glad the OG Uther voice is here tho, he's amazing.
@@HeartFlamming Yeah. Same with Jaina.
Sylvanas as the new Arbiter will send Arthas' soul to Bastion where it will be Uther's student again.
HAHAHA
So Jaina during BFA and Uther here, their main lesson is to offload responsibility. The ones reassuring the two of them tell them it’s not their fault and they shouldn’t blame themselves. Except it was their fault and accepting that is important. Not surprising, I bet the writers are big “omg therapy” types and too many contemporary therapists are all about offloading responsibility (which just creates more problems.)
Last quote made me think... where is Tirion? Will we see him in the maw soon? I hope so, I miss him, he taught me compassion and restraint, his heroism was ideal.
"Then I must consider this an act...of Arthas..."
everything about the uther arc was good up until he said that Devos led him down a dark path and that he "it was not his choice". sure devos manipulated him but ultimately he chose to throw Arthas into the maw for what he did, he chose retribution.
Man, I'm coming back from having played through Uther's storyline through the Warcraft games and poking through the WOW expansions as they came out. I'm floored at the quality of the animations, the effects, the voice acting, and ofc the story telling that they've brought back to finish these characters stories.
We have been jebaited, rest in piece.
"What *fate* befell *Arthas* in the End?"
"At the moment of his death, Devos and I claimed his soul, and cast it *into* the *Maw*"
"Without the Arbiter's knowledge? So he might yet have had a chance at *redemption*?"
@@Athelarius ya and you posted the exact same thing before
It also is interesting how Uther struggles to ever forgive himself for Arthas
Very human...
He couldn't forgive himself for not acknowledging that Arthas was desperate and terrified, which led to his fall from grace.
I am not sure what would the Arbiter role would be in this? Aren't she supposed to bring Arthas soul back to be judged "the right way" before casting him "justly" in the maw by Uther 1 side soul?
Click bait title... You dont get to see anything new regarding to Arthus his story line.
i didnt see a single thing that shows 'arthas' redemption'.
“Let’s spar! That should clear your mind…”
*Bonk* *Bonk bonk*
Seriously, wow has become a free netflix series... on youtube.
Is Uther going to the Maw to save Arthas
The fact they dedicate a whole questline to Uther reliving his memories of Arthas as guilt and regret signals he may be one of the few to go after him. Then there's others who say his soul crystal may have been used to make Anduin's mourneblade, so we may see Arthas when we go to free Anduin.
3:10 these footmen are extreme Arthas simps XD
Uther did not have graying hair when he became a paladin. He was a young stud back then.
Imagine reuploading and extending videos for over 10minutes for money
And yet I keep coming back.
Is there any problem if people earning money?
@@blackhand2850 are you an idiot, therea nothing wrong in EARNING HONEST money, people actually work to earn they dont just upload the same video the same time to squeeze youtube for cents
"i will endure whatever it takes".. *LITERALLY one second later* ... "ahhh i cannot".. SL is a fucking joke
Imagine Arthas sees Mal'ganis in the Shadowlands
“Mal’ganis?! I don’t know how you survived but I...” -Arthas said calmly.
Since I left the game this is however..interesting. I hope they bring Arthas back somehow. He is the only character that has this strong aura and charisma that is more interesting than Sylvanas boring redemption arc that I wished gone extreme rather than salvation. But people change 😂 But yeah lets see where this .. goes!?
It goes to shit.
Uther wasn't the brightest Paladin. Probably the most ignorant. I still feel like Arthas made the right call for Stratholme. He stopped the plague from spreading but was consumed by hatred against Malganis which in turned lead him to the path in Northrend to become the Lich King. I feel like if Uther stayed to help him, that wouldn't have happened. He would have remained calm and rational. Its the stupidity of Jaina and Uther walking out on him that drove him into extreme measures. Someone had to clean up the mess and Uther and Jaina chose to check out rather than figure out how to solve the issue at hand. Uther I feel is a very weak character. Arthas on the other hand fully committed to his crusade at the cost of his soul. I think it would make sense for Arthas to find redemption in the Maw so that he's whole again.
What music is 10:06? It sounds like arise a death knight, but it continues different.
Why didn't they just copy paste the wc3 dialogue voices instead of re-doing them sub-par all over again? it literally killed the whole vibe of how awesome this could've been..
Skinny Uther doesn't exist..he can't hurt you
Skinny Uther 0:27
what fate befell Arthas? blizzard brought him back for one trailer, and after everyone bought the expansion they killed him off-screen and destroyed his soul and whatever else may have remained of him
now he lives only in our memories.
may the people responsible suffer for the rest of their lives. if videogames made people violent they would need to live the rest of their lives under witness protection.
No redemption yet? WAT!
TL;DR: We might get an answer of what happened to Arthas in 9.3
There most likely wont be 9.3 tho 🙃
@@dvls442 my point remains 🙃🤣
@@Frankenllama 😄😅
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I think with everything that's happened...the only thing left that I want to see is what happens in the end with Arthas.
"Friends aid me", bugger off blue boy your on your own lol. Now that's a realistic wow player scenario.
You know what this means? The King Will Return. At least I hope arthas gets a redemption arc, he kinda deserves it. Also I can just imagine his music playing as he returns in a blaze of glory to destroy his jailer.
All this, only for Blizzard to do Arthas dirty and have him as a fragment of a soul that just disappears.
What a joke, and an out of touch decision to make. This expansion has been a shit show lore wise, I would rather have BFA again.
Agree, I really looked forward to his appearance in Shadowlands. Illidan had a closure in his story, Arthas deserved one too.
Lich king Uther Kelthuzad all of them voiced by same person. Man he is truly the voice of wolk expansion. he is the voice of our childhood. Dont ruin wow more blizzard.
No matter how many expansion wow had. None could best arthas soundtrack invincible
So Nothing New?
There's 3 new cutscenes that went live on Tuesday. Don't know if people saw them somewhere else but first time posting here.
I'm so tired of Blizzard trying to redeem mass murdering genocidal war villains. Arthas & Sylvannas are both responsible for the deaths of thousands of souls. There is no redeeming them or coming back from that.
Arthus vs Sylvanas re match Yes. Sylvanas will win of course She s playing a double game very well
if the storywriters suddenly go and tell that Devos was working for the jailer i will lose my sh*t, she definitely wasnt, and was driven more by personal issues, not some grandpa death bs
edit: no new content on this video, sadly
Didn't the dialogue from the Spires of Ascension confirm that Devos chose the path she did because of Uther's memories _along with_ listening to the Jailer's words?
I seen this stuff about what a few weeks ago maybe a month
One part of me happy and nostalgic.
One part of me says Wow is still milking the actually amazing Warcraft 3 lore and characters...
Damn Uther looking famished as fuck.
9:36 sus
I still don’t get it, I’m thinking Uther soul was in frostmourne and that even in all of his torment he still wanted redemption for his soul.
what version of Invincible/Arthas my Son plays at the beginning?
It's Arthas my son, unreleased version, you can look it up in TH-cam :D
9:35 Sus
...and in you, Mall Walker.
its not about fucking lip syncing bois. its about that the player CANT develop an emotional attachment to any of these characters, because the quests aren't designed to do that. Some fucking cinematics won't make us attached to any character. The quest design is flawed and makes the characters feel distant, bec the storyline doesnt fucking include them as much as it should.
tbh, they should bring back Arthas! At least, AT LEAST for Jaina! She deserves an eternity of peace with Arthas! Its been the longest for her now, her love and her wait! She now deserves to be happy too! I cant wait for that day! For them to hug each other and know, this time they won’t be separated and are with each other, always forever! 😭
Arthas was the greatest villain of all time his story his character the armor the sword
We should have met Arthas in the maw or at least have some kind of quest from Kyrian to try to see if his soul can be redeemed. He was jailers pawn after all..
Why....why does Arthus sound like dio?
Here to post months later Arthas' redemption predictions have not aged well.
Someone knows the song for the first scene? It is sometimes referred to as Ebon Hold voices chant, but I cannot find the version in this video
name of soundtrack at 04:16?
Throwing his soul inti the Maw without it being judged by the Arbiter... 😞
I don't think Arthas deserved the Maw
Arthas redemption = Sylvanas has chance too ♥️
Sylvanas does those things herself, Arthas was controlled all the time
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damn... the quality of the textures... so bad for blizzard
I just wanna see arthas 😭😭😭
What is the music at the start?
THEY HAVE MASSACRED ARTHAS'S VOICE WTF
Uther gets an excuse/redemption, sylvanas gets an excuse and is looking like may get redemption, anduin gets an excuse and will most certainly get redemption, where tf is Arthas’s chance!