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Nooo there is no delivery to Colombia 😭 I know there are not a lot of English speakers here but I'm really dying for a signed copy of any of your books, I love your vids and use your arguments all the time. This book looks awesome, will probably have to get it on Kindle but with no signature 😞
"Authors of good science change their behaviour based on their findings. While Authors of bad science change the findings based on their behaviour" Well said 👏👏👏
Well said but wrong. He cited a wrong scientific paper, but he's not carnivore because of that, there's a background that he is purposely ignoring or just lazy to know more about the background. His family have special food sensitivities that were only fixed by carnivore diet.
Nothing was debunked... Peterson was talking about government overreach and not about Veganism... he's right that the left are narcissists though, that's why you all thought it's about you and your little ideology 😂😂. How typical.
Don’t even think it’s the words he uses, it’s the constant migraine face he pulls that makes it look like he’s been thinking really hard about what he’s saying (when in reality he’s massively constipated 💩) and some people will believe whatever gobbledygook comes out of that grim face before he even opens his mouth because they don’t care about the words, they trust the old, rich frowning man like he’s some sort of wise owl that’s come to TH-cam purely to endow the poor public with its wisdom 😑
Yup, I've noticed this many years ago. An extensive vocabulary doesn't make you smart or correct. Unfortunately, most people are too lazy to look into things on their own so they'll believe anything he says.
I am 68 yrs old and have been vegan for nearly 12 yrs and at my healthiest ever. I went vegan after seeing horrendous footage of inside a pig slaughter farm which shocked and upset me so much i did not ever want to support any cruel animal industries again. When we know better we can make better and kinder choices.
I am 74 and turned vegan 12 years ago after watching Forks Over Knives. I would never go back. More and more evidence has come up showing that the human body works better if no animal protein is ever fed into it.
@@cIeetz Exactly. Too bad that children aren't taught the importance of empathy and that property and money are the dominant values, rather than empathy. And so it's a vicious, competitive, materialistic society. People aren't much valued, animals are not valued at all except as a commodity.
I can't belive the carnivore study he talks up that much is an online survey on pro-carnivore websites. How does this man have a higher degree in any field?
It's really insane to read. The best part is that they asked the pro carnivore groups to even write the questions that they would be asked. Most carnivore diet people quote that study.
Just shows that you don't actually have to be smart to get a Phd or any degree for that matter. Just have to be able to tick boxes and be persistent. For example do you know anyone who has failed a Phd? I think everyone just gets passed eventually.
I'm sure he knows some of what he is saying is total BS. As long as the books and whatever else he is hocking sells, he doesn't gaf. That's the difference between Jorpy and vegans including Ed, we care more about truth and compassion (ideology) than profit (money).
@@abdvs325I think anyone who has anything to do with academia will know plenty of people who have stopped half way through their PhDs. I certainly do.
Peterson is a perfect example of the “Emperor’s New Clothes”. His pseudo intellectualism is almost embarrassing but people lap it up. I’ve thought he’s talking nonsense for years and I’ve done my due diligence. I’ve read his books, been to see him speak and even met the man, all to see if I was missing something. I wasn’t. There’s nothing there but arrogant entitlement.
Wow, you're more impressive than me! I don't think I could ever purposefully read his books, even to better understand his supporters, but am glad that people like you exist!
Peterson is not saying that at all. Why the hell would you bother posting something completely unrelated to the topic? To feel the comradery of the vegan mob? It's all group identity and strawmaning with people like you.
@@robsengahay5614 if you would not force your beliefs onto others then you don’t believe them. Are you honestly going to tell me you wouldn’t make eating animals illegal if you had the power to do so?
He used to choose his words carefully and thoughtfully, but lately when I heard him say he is no longer allowed to have opinions, and Trudeau has never spoken a true word in his life (whatever you think of Trudeau, I bet he's spoken at least one true word), I realized I was over Peterson. He seemed to know his psych material, but he should have stayed in that lane. I think now he sees himself as some kind of prophet.
@@prieten49 Oh boy, you're showing your age with that one! We all make mistakes, at least you saw the light. I'm sure somewhere out there, there are people still waiting for trickle down to drop some shiny pennies on them.
The reason Jordan's diet "works" is for the same reason someone like me with Crohn's Disease would be prescribed immunosuppressant drugs... he has an autoimmune disease, so making the immune system weaker by eating nothing but meat will stop your body attacking itself long enough to heal. It's part of the reason I got told to eat less fibre after diagnosis. You eat less healthy foods, your immune system isn't as strong, and your body won't attack itself as much. Once inflammation is under control, you get told to reintroduce more fibre, because fibrous foods are largely anti inflammatory, and it keeps inflammation at bay. Peterson's carnivore diet is literally making his immune system crap, proving why vegan diets are for pretty much everyone. I haven't needed to quit veganism just because I have an autoimmune disease. What a sad life it would be to eat nothing but steak as well 🙈
😱💔Absolutely stunned that this man who comes across so intelligent sensitive deeply empathic with the suffering of others , oozes pure love & compassion , bravely bears his heart & soul , raw vulnerability, emotions & deep love.& care for Humanity Yet doesn’t empathise with or care about Other living creatures!! 😳Shocked that he is not deeply enlightened evolved& already a Long term Vegan. !! Sooo heart shocked 😳 deeply disappointed 😢. Heartbroken 💔 gutted 😞 It may well be The Usual tragic Cause . The more intellectual that people are ,from being trained to over use the mind. & to live in their heads not hearts. bodies & souls & it’s the most dangerous thing in the world. The mind disconnected from the heart love empathy 🤗& intuition is a terrifying lethal weapon that commits the worst heinous acts & destroys lives. & ruthlessly Massacres People animals& nature & the world The morally bankrupt cold 🥶 psychopathic mind 🤯can JUSTIFY ANYTHING !! EVEN THE WORST ATROCITIES!! It’s the horror that has Been happening. For millennia Since the start of this dark era of duality separation Thank God now is the time of transformation to compassion respect , unity for ALL life in ALL its different forms ; ALL Living Beings 🙏🪽🙌🏼
I'm not sure why any thinking person would give heed to the imperfect opinions of some ignorant psychology professor. There are a handful of EXTREMELY wise sages currently on this planet who can logically and completely answer practically any question that an intelligent soul is likely to ask regarding morals and ethics. The fact that Jordan supports men buggering each other (by which I mean, that he supports homosexuality and other criminal activities, such as the unnecessary consumption of poor innocent animals) is MORE than sufficient proof that he is not as religious as he claims, and that any decent, holy person ought to shun his inane teachings and flee into the loving arms of a teacher of Truth. Furthermore, in a recent interview on Benjamin Shapiro's TH-cam channel, he admitted that his wife figuratively (and I'm sure also LITERALLY) wears the pants in his household. 👖 I would be more than pleased to provide you with links to the TH-cam channels of a few enlightened beings who will quickly set you on the path to perfection, as opposed to the DELUDED moral subjectivism professed by "Doctor" Peterson (pun not intended). Please find below a couple of such ENLIGHTENED masters to which I referred above: Professor Alan Watts (now deceased, so he doesn't have his own TH-cam channel - just search for his videos on numerous extant channels) Swami Sarvapriyananda ( th-cam.com/users/vedantany1894 or search for "Vivekananda Samiti") Jagadguru Svāmī Vegānanda ( www.youtube.com/@TheWorldTeacher )
Funny for Jordan to claim vegans are "woke narcissists of compassion" meanwhile everything he says and does is for his own gain. He's basically a white Neil DeGrass-Fed tyson.
Oh Ed - I haven't watched your content since the early pandemic. I had been involved in low-key and peaceful collective vegan as well as political activism, but after some time the apathy and hostility around me became seriously hard to deal with and I became cripplingly depressed and overwhelmed. I completely stopped activism and retreated into myself. Seeing you speak now, I'm reminded of what a refuge of sanity, grace, and moral integrity you are in this awful world. I'm so so thankful you continue to do the work you do. You truly make a difference!!!
I wish you also the best. Perfect that you feel better. Please be carefull with everything that makes you "hard" on the inside. Activism can lead to that if it is not made in a soft approach to yourself and others. With patience and kindness and not the will to "change the world right now". Respect the others, be open to there opinions and never believe we know everything and the absolute truth. We all change our minds by getting older and more experienced, it's a processe. This way you can stay in balance and still make an impact
Jordan Peterson is soooo disappointing. Thank you, Ed for tackling this. I saw his video awhile ago and didn't know where to start because it was so strange to see a fellow Canadian spewing such rubbish.
Its a shame, he has posted a lot of motivational videos and lectures over the years but since he became a celebrity it is very weird now. I will say his teachings helped me greatly before with getting my life in order but his carnism and his daughter's lion diet grifting is a massive disappointment and a danger to animals and people's health.
He's a good psychologist and social scientist, and a genuinely awful moraliser and theologian. It's a shame he doesn't have enough insight to stick to what he's good at.@@benzeyne99
@@benzeyne99 I also feel like some of his earlier videos helped me get my life in order, and helped me pluck up the courage to stand up to certain abusive people in my life. However, the red flags were there right from the beginning when he first started becoming famous, and they piled up over time until I couldn't ignore them anymore. One particularly disappointing one was when he relied on drugs to cope with his wife's cancer, even though he himself had told people to be stoic in the face of adversity. Even worse though was in one of his "12 Rules for Life" books, when he told the story of his daughter being diagnosed with juvenile arthritis, and how he ignored the first doctor who diagnosed it because "that doctor gave him bad news! That doctor was BAD!" Honestly, I could have understood if he had said that the doctor seemed untrustworthy or didn't seem to be doing his job thoroughly, because there are bad doctors out there, but no. He dismissed the doctor because the doctor "gave him bad news!" As far as I'm aware, JP has never reflected on how irresponsible and weak-minded his attitude was to let his daughter suffer like that just because he couldn't handle bad news. I don't really like Mikhaila, but she would have been no more than two or three years old at the time.
@@benzeyne99he has become more mentally unstable. He used to make a fair bit of sense. Now, even putting this diet stuff aside, he often sounds like an angry, drunk and senile man
Except the argument about the scientific paper he mentioned Ed is wrong about everything... He just watched this video to judge Jordan Peterson which does not include the background and reasoning of why he follows a carnivore diet. (Spoiler alert: health issues) I expect a big backlash from his video. Mark my words.
@@RBJorge Its true that the Petersons follow the carnivore diet for health reasons, but it's not without ideological ideas behind it. Mikhaila tells she felt a lot better when she started eating meat, when it comes to Jordan he copied her diet. But Jordan has very peculiar ideas about what is healthy and what is not. And so have vegans. I just stick to my omnivore diet, like people did for ages (fact).
1.Not all vegans represent us the right way. 2. Social psychology, the following text is copy pasted from an article describing why people are offended when you politely refuse alchol, in my opinion the same conclusion can be applied for people not liking the fact that they eat meat and you are vegan: Essentially, we are tribal social animals. From an evolutionary perspective, early humans had to form social groups to hunt, gather food, protect each other and survive. As a result, we have evolved tendencies to support group cohesion by conforming to group norms and shunning non-conformity. So if we tend to associate with people who are like us and engage in similar behaviours, and we start doing things in a way that goes against the group norms, such as not drinking in a social situation, this can be a challenge to the acceptability of that behaviour in the group.
Cool - 45 years ! 57 and vegan at 22 - only 35 years. Changed diet after cancer, so also cancer free for 35 years. Great point about social triggering - refusing offered goods is considered rude in many cultures - many freegans use this to explain why they eat nona's meat. I ask them if they'd accept every offer from their host - crack, heroin, roofies ? Join in every group activity so as not to disappoint ? I asked them to reflect on 120 years of history, and the impact of freely leaving one's personal values for a group.
Yes i feel the same and it astounds me how many friends think he is a mentor...his use of big words, name dropping of Nietzsche and Dostoevsky , long monologues often with an annoying amount of hand and finger movement and presenting himself constantly as a tragic victim of those who don't agree with him is clearly manipulative and it seems highly effective in persuading other people who share his biases. I do appreciate his stance on freedom of speech and defense of the Canadian truckers. I have to add his melodramatic, tragic, sentimental stories about himself as a victim of others is contrary to his self righteous prescription to everyone else to be reject a victim mentality. He seems to be unable to recognize a genuine victim from a perpetrator feeling very sorry for themselves. His moral framework regarding animals is very frightening.
I find it pretty amazing how someone as smart as I used to believe he was, JP still hasn't worked out that his illness and that of his daughter significantly improved when he went on a mono diet because he/they had removed everything they had formerly consumed and that clearly one of those, or a combination of some of those foodstuffs were making him/them sick. So not what he IS eating , rather what he IS NOT eating is key...he just doesn't (presumably) know what it is and chooses to believe it is meat...he could have chosen let's say, apples only or bananas only and might well have achieved the same result.
Exactly, their microbiome is probably even more messed up now that they've only been eating meat. They will never be able to eat anything else without having major gut problems. That is not being healthy.
I saw a clip of him on an interview saying that there's no evidence that high cholesterol causes heart disease 🤣 surprising how wrong he's about the topic of eating animals, I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that her daughter has an autoimmune disease and meat is supposedly one of the few foods that dont trigger symptoms for her 🤔
Yeah it’s so funny how narcissists call other people narcissists & will never accept that they themselves are narcissists 😅😅😒 it’s nauseating actually…
He also is a huge misogynist and is obsessed with “traditional masculinity” but acts like a hysterical Victorian housewife from a movie whenever the “woke moralists” do something that upsets him. He’s also barred out a lot apparently
I'm so scared for the wellbeing of his followers. There's always numerous comments on his videos blatantly admitting that they will believe anything he says without question.
He brought his blood work results on Joe Rogan in 2018(?) or something and his free testosterone was comparable to an 85yo man and his cholesterol had skyrocketed. He actually tried to handwave his testosterone levels away by saying his body was more efficient at using it and that’s why there was less free testosterone 🤦♀️ Mic the Vegan did a response video on it. I think it’s directly called “Jordan Peterson blood work results” or some such.
probably he is not talking about EVERY vegan, but the phenomenon how he sees it: people get on the vegan train to show everyone how "good" and "modern" they are.
I saw a clip of him on an interview saying that there's no evidence that high cholesterol causes heart disease 🤣 surprising how wrong he's about the topic of eating animals, I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that her daughter has an autoimmune disease and meat is supposedly one of the few foods that dont trigger symptoms for her 🤔
@@dekyor9547 she says her carnivore diet cured her autoimmune but actively still switches up her diet bc the diet is not healthy or sustainable. Pretty sure she got scurvy or almost did from not getting in vitamin C. She most definitely influenced his food choices.
He rode the 2016 say bad stuff about trans people train wearing an "I'm a psychologist" hat. A bunch of lonely teenage boys and old men bought it and became his fan base.
Dumb people love pseudo "experts". They also have serious fetiche for those who say average opinions as if was saying something extraordinary and "subverting the system ".
he just appears to be intelligent and a smooth talker and hides his toxicity well, to the untrained eye. it's when you watch boat loads of clips, you catch how sick he is. i watched one clip and his misogyny was so insane, it was lights out. this was after appearing relatively reasonable in several previous ones. the disappointing part for me was that he managed to hoodwink a couple people i thought were smarter than to fall for him.
Indeed, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶 The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩 Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT ban animal agriculture! “I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”. Mr. Ed Gaunt, So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐 th-cam.com/video/Sl5GpxLXnuI/w-d-xo.html Go to the 8:15 mark.
I noticed when I was eating flesh how much anger I held within and now 8 years of going plant based the anger has disappeared. But I can now recognize it in meat eaters. Before I knew Mr. Peterson was a carnivore that anger was most apparent.
Well, it's easy to be on the vegan side. All good and substantiated arguments live there. Arguing for the other side is a losing battle but they do valiantly try.
@@feelingoffbalance It’s fair to say that there is stronger evidence in support of vegan arguments but Ed, Mic the Vegan and others always present such intelligent analyses of academic research, describing the sampling, scope, limitations and special considerations surrounding specific papers… it demonstrates intelligence. I sometimes feel like anti-vegan TH-camrs aren’t always misrepresenting academic papers, they actually don’t understand them.
In his own words, Jordan Peterson didn't sleep for 25 days.... the world record for no sleep is 11 days... if he can't even tell a true statement about his sleeping behaviour, then why would anyone believe him about anything else?! 25 days without sleep would likely end in death.
I became vegan late in my life. Am sixty-eight years old and have been vegan for 12 years. It wasn't a health issue for me, because i was already in good health then and am still enjoying good health now. For me, it was and is a compassion issue. Saw a clip about pigs being gassed to death, their screams of pain while their insides were burned alive still echo in my mind. My compassion exploded to life while they were dying. Woke up vegan the next morning. I lay curled up depressed for three months. Lost 50 pounds. Which wasn't a big loss. The biggest loss was my own ignorance of what was going on to animals raised for human consumption. Once i uncurled myself from my depression i dove deep into educating myself on plant-based diets. I was overwhelmed to find out how many animal products were slipped into almost everything. Educated myself, and then went out to educate those whom i called friends and family. Was quickly without family and friends.Not a big loss. Found out who my real friends a family are. I have a handful of friends who have become family and share my compassion for sentient beings. Ed, i have been watching you for years now and totally support, admire, and love what you are doing. It takes tons of energy to do what you do and i pray for more power to you. when ppl ask me why i am vegan my answer is compassion. That shuts off any argument ppl might want to have with me.
I always respect people's "feelings" even if I don't agree with them or find them rational. I do not condone animal cruelty at all and I fully agree that this has to improve. Bioethics fascinates me. So i'd like to ask, given how highly sensitive and empathetic you seem to be, I would be curious to know what is your stance with regards to HUMAN abortion? Do you support the notion of "my body my choice"? Or do you support it only in the 1% or so of extreme cases (abuse/mother's health), up to a "certain point" of pregnancy or all the way up till birth? Let's say we were to reach a global compromise whereby animals were given exactly the same rights as the human foetus and could be aborted for consumption up to the same time limit as the human foetus, would you find this an acceptable compromise then? Animals are not "asking" to be terminated/consumed sure. The human foetus is not asking to be terminated either due to poor social/governmental support of the poorest communities, political depravity, profit (planned parenthood profits from every abortion, it's a business for them. Look into it), poor judgement, promiscuity, irresponsible behaviour, lack of accountability/moral values or a sudden career opportunity or a whim for that matter. Note that the wealthiest societies now have some of the highest rates of abortion depending on where you are looking. So what's your take on all that? A few more questions if you don't mind. Do you think it is ethical and dignified to set "conditions" to establish the value of a human life at any point from the womb to the tomb? For e.g. consider that statement: "human life has value and deserves full protection as a human ONLY IF it is 24 weeks old, is "desired" by the mother or both parents, is not "disabled" in any way or is deemed worthy of coming/staying into existence if not a burden on the community". Would you have issues with anything in that statement? In terms of sentience, what's the difference between a human/animal foetus still inside the womb and that same foetus that was just born a minute or an hour ago? At what point would you consider that a human foetus and an animal foetus become "sentient"? (whichever way you understand the word). What has more value to you, a non-sentient human foetus in the very early stages of development or a fully grown animal (that you consider "sentient" although I don't perceive human and animal sentience to be of equal value but that's another conversation)? What I mean is, hypothetically, if you had the opportunity to save either an unborn human foetus at the very early stages of development or a full grown cow irrespective of the mother's desires and social expectations etc (let's say hypothetically a "test tube" human foetus in a fully equipped post apocalyptic lab/incubator you came across), what would be your choice? Would you give that test tube human foetus a chance to come into existence or would you consider it "just a piece of tissue" and save the cow? Many may find this question far-fetched but think again. I believe that If we are unable to be honest with ourselves about "far-fetched" hypotheticals (e.g. what would you do if you won the lottery tomorrow or who would you save first, your parents, husband, wife or your kids?) then it means we have a lot of work to do on ourselves. Note that I'm not saying "should" but rather that "would"...and I'm not judging or claiming I would make the "right" choice either as there may not always be a "right" choice. I am as flawed as any other human being. I'm just saying those are the kind of questions we should be asking ourselves to see where we stand with our code of ethics and morals from time to time.
@@CRM-114gen z intellectual 😅 (z for zombie) as he looks like vampire.. Not heathly at all he a gaslighting narcissist its sad he got such a platform
JP’s story about breaking his diet and the paranoia and insomnia sound like an eating disorder. He’s gone so far off the deep end it’s just sad now. Regardless, his rhetoric and misinformation still get attention. Thank you for this thoughtful and evidence-backed response, Ed!
I'm pretty sure I went from vegatarian to vegan a couple days after I started watching your videos, which was about a year ago, and I've learned so much from you!! Although I'd NEVER even THINK about going back, everything you teach just continuously reminds me that I made the best decision for not only myself, but those precious animals. Thank you Ed! Love your book by the way ❤
Jordan Peterson looks and sounds like a marvel villain. Some people shouldn’t comment on veganism if they aren’t educated in that field. Also, we shouldn’t listen to anyone on a carnivore diet. Pathetic. Ed, you slayed this one, yet again ♥️
Agreed, Some people shouldn’t comment on any subject if they aren’t educated in that field, especially if that opinion indirectly or actively causes harm to other sentient beings.
The reason Dr. Peterson has taken interest is because vegans have attacked him because his daughter has a disease and eats only meat to deal with it. Due to their popularity this insane diet has been spreading among his followers. Then he gets backlash from people concerned and vegans. Then its back and forth. Personally think it is very irresponsible to advocate meat only diet to a population of obese people with heart problems where most will die from heart diseases or complications or diseases from animal products simply because it helped his daughter.
“CARNIVORE GIVES BENEFITS IN JUST SUX MONTHS!” Just about any diet with calorie restriction of any kind can appear beneficial for six months. Talk to me in five years when your arteries are closes solid.
Also Ed thank you for being the vegan voice we need. The way you speak is so calm and knowledgeable. You look at real facts and I want to learn how to harness your composure when confronted with frustrating situations and people.
SO DARN GLAD you’re covering these popular pro-carnivore diet endorsers by refuting with hard facts and logic! About time that happened! Next up: Mikhaila Peterson please! She’s another huge promoter of a scarily unhealthy “cult” diet!
Oh right because no human can have bad food intolerances that can only be fixed by carnivore diet. Imagine being so narcissistic that you can't even realize there's people that can disagree with you for legit health problems. You are literally calling from a cult a person that has many auto immune diseases. Did you even hear Mikhaila arguments about it? I bet you 100$ you didn't. Go ahead and be surprised..m
@@ouwebrood497 If you choose empathy for other living beings and decide not to contribute to their suffering and slaughter, for the betterment of the planet and your own health, what’s irrational about that?
@@ouwebrood497 You still haven't said WHY it's irrational, just that *emotions are irrational, which is not an accepted interpretation. It's common thought that empathy promotes emotional intelligence which is regarded as a form of rationality.
lol i lost all respect for one dude who i used to follow and respect highly because he started parroting peterson in the most idiotic ways, i could not believe this guy was that gullible, ironically peterson stands for the very thing he was trying to educate people against (narcissism) lol
He is pretty damn smart but like many smart people he has cognitive dissonance and is not logical when it comes to plant based diet and vegan lifestyle. The two things i noticed dumb about him are misuse of word narcissist (not just vs vegans) and the diet rubbish. I have not seen anything else so compared to most people he is still top of the top smart. Naturally anyone with different political preferences are going to claim he is dumb especially those threatened by him such as Marxists and anti free speech authoritarians. his books are quite good and helpful, super popular so i dont know how anyone could claim he is cancelled.
Calm, collected, informed & perfectly put. Yet again Ed, you havent disappointed! You are the voice for so many of us. We thank you for your time & efforts! 🌱
Like all people, he’s not 100% good or bad, but he seems to be extreme versions of both yin & yang. He really thinks he’s helping people. And when he speaks on matters in his own damn field, he has many accurate insights to afford. But then he screws it all up when he attacks trans people & vegans. Not to mention, he has gotten so much worse in the past few years, with his very obvious delusions of grandeur. He needs to go take a vow of silence for a year at a monastery & clear all the gunk out of his mind. And most importantly, get his hands dirty pumping water out of wells, sweeping floors, & HUMBLING himself. This guy should not have a microphone right now.
I'm Indian, we have been pushing plant based diets for centuries, so I guess we're all just a bunch of woke narcissists. Another colonizer who has more judgements for us, how nice.
The amount of young guys I know who idolize JP is astounding. Thanks for tackling this Ed! I will be sharing this A LOT... I'm sooo looking forward to the book release 💚
21:04 "If this story is true, something is very very wrong with Jordan. And if it's not true and he's making it up, well then something is very very wrong with Jordan." We love you Ed! You're brilliant!
I agree. It's such a bizarre case of cognitive dissonance that I can't even begin to understand... I keep hoping he'll come out of this insane stage ... but he seems to dig in his heels even more each year.
It's not just that his opinion is what it is. He actually gathers what he's calling studies, which are basically just questionnaires asking people about their diets, and calls them evidence. I'm very disillusioned by him. I don't think I can listen to him anymore.
JP used to deliver some quite interesting advices and overall analysis on psycho-social behaviors. Turns out, he's now a world class troll with some pretty dangerous / offensive comments, that no one really asked for, around subjects he knows clearly nothing about. I'm not a vegan but... I happen to value actual knowledge. Way to go, Ed !
It makes me shiver with every cell of my body, hearing Jordan speak such bullsh*t. And I say this as a vegan, but also as a human being, researcher, and soon-to-be psychologist. Merely as someone from the field of psychology, I already always warned how much Jordan is damaging our professional field, but now this is yet another reason not to listen to him.
He’s doing amazing work at upholding the actual ethical standards. Grad school brainwashes you through hazing and abuse like social ostracism if you dare question the narrative. Check your biases. I was a hater too before I actually bothered to listen to him in long form myself.
It's quite remarkable how persuasive Jordan Peterson can appear when one lacks knowledge about the subject he's discussing. Yet, it's equally astonishing how exasperating it can be to listen to him when one is well-informed about the topic and realizes that most of what he says is nonsense.
no just no i disagree hard, there is nothing persuasive about JP, in fact all i see is someone using smart sounding words with little commen sense in them.
Great job Ed! It’s amazing how well you can cut someone down to size, without resorting to nasty tactics. You’re always polite, but with a ruthless dedication to the facts and basic logic. Cheers! I’m always grateful for your efforts 🙏💖
I wouldn't take advice from Peterson about what to put in my body, He's a clinical psychologist, who should be knowledgeable about the dangers, who became dependent on benzodiazapines.
He's certainly got the money to bury any information he doesn't want known. He also shills for Good Ranchers Meat, I'm sure he has lots of stock invested in the "grass-fed" racket.
For his audience, right. I'm sure his daughter story and his progressive elimination diet didn't make a difference. It's 100% just to satisfy his followers. Thanks for the explanation.
Increasingly irrelevant hate monger and dismal excuse of a psychologist seeks to attack vegans to get attention. I'm shocked. Shocked I say 😒 Kudos to Ed for always fighting the good fight. (And hope Jordan Peterson finally learns the definition of 'narcissism' 🙄) And as always folks, don't forget to make your bed - JP is lurking under yours to make sure you do 🙃
Meat eaters live longer, and most ppl are unhealthy for eating things that are vegan. Vegans are the most unhealthiest ppl on earth. How much soda and frigging candy is vegan?
What I love the most is that people are so adamant and upset when you bring veganism up in conversation. B/c they know what their doing is wrong but don't want to face it. I always show peta's chicken/beef in reverse and people are like I don't want to see that, you don't want to see what your doing?
Jordan Peterson actually sees himself as a martyr and whines endlessly about how much he "suffers" from depression day and night - he should be made to spend some time in factory farms and be treated just the same as his innocent victims so he can learn the true meaning of suffering.
I don’t think the idea that he talks in very long words means he’s an intellectual. He seems to think so though. It’s great to hear someone with an actual intellect, who knows what he is talking about, taking his nonsense apart.
Wait isn't Ed doing that but on your side? He uses compassion and morality arguments to make himself to look intellectual. But indeed he is just using the same arguments religion used to use 200 years ago.
@@juliewake4585 I think he uses it as the ultimate debate argument that no one can answer. Come on, his 2 books are based on vegans argueing with "meat eaters". You're vegan? Okay! Congratulations! But dont judge and fight people for not being. Thats why i compare it with religious people.
Jordan lives in an area where the crops are heavily sprayed with glyphosate. He was ok eating wheat, grains and other veggies until after 2010 he and his family began getting highly exposed. This is why the gut problems began occuring to his whole family at the same time. So it's not the plants, it's the herbacides/pesticides. But he doesn't realize it and blames the plants. 😅 Ok, I just made this up but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case.
Plus meat and the animals have 10x the amount of pesticides and herbicides than non organic grains & veggies. They even spray the chemicals directly onto the animals! Not to mention 75% of all antibiotics produced in the US get given to livestock which ends up in their flesh too.
This is hands down the most satisfying video I’ve seen that calls bs on a carnifool. The humor was impeccable & well-timed too. I used to revere JP for all his insights on all things Psychology & Sociology. As a whole, the man seems to be confined by delusions of grandeur (which is a trait that narcissists have) so I don’t see any reason to listen to his ramblings when there are so many other Psychologists out there who are brilliant & actually humble.
I would never go to that guy for therapy if he has veganism this twisted imagine what he could do to your mental health, LOl, Thanks Ed, Btw you are still as awesome as ever can't wait to read the new book!
The best argument is stating that all LAWS are based upon the one Universal and Natural LAW of "Do no Harm". That means not just against humans but our environment.
Years ago, my sister told me about how amazing this guy was, she sent me a link and within a few minutes of listening to him I knew he had an agenda and told my sister I thought so. Members of my family still love him and it's a mystery to me as to why.
JP is the cartoon, super villain, whose superpower is hypnotizing people into believing he is brilliant when he actually says nothing important or even interesting
This was a fantastic video. I've been a vegan for a number of years and have continued to improve my eating habits. I eat less processed foods like vegetable oil and margerine. Stick to natural wholesome foods.
The problem is that a person with enough charisma can make the masses believe their bs, and that's exactly what Jordan Peterson is doing, consciously or not. As a psychologist, he's probably very aware of it.
You know what drives me crazy? It’s ok if people want to debate veganism, but at least do the bare minimum and study it before. Vegans are not saints and don’t want to be. We are aware that all leave some foot print during our stay in this world. The whole thing is simply avoiding harm when not necessary. Not going out of your way to cause more damage. Simple like this. For the people who want to expose themselves out there and talk about vegans, please, at least know the actual definition of it. I promise you’ll still have a lot to discuss and debate, but at least it will save you of some embarrassment…
💯 bro 💯 I used to make the same stupid arguements and excuses now I'm vegan for life !! Thank God someone showed me 1 of the main truths of this human life !!!!!
In Germany we say "Schuster bleib bei deinen Leisten" which is a saying that means, that everybody should stick to their business where they got the expertise. It's horrible that so much "intellectuals" keeps spreading misinformation. Be it J.P. or Neil Degrasse Tyson or our Richard David Precht who also talks about stuff he doesn't know nothing about way to often (sorry if I made any mistakes-I'm not very good in English). Greetings to all and thanks to Ed for his fantastic work. Go vegan💚
You had me laughing here, mate. Good video. I'm a meat-eater and don't support veganism, but I had a listen to your arguments out of curiosity. A couple of points relating to your critique of some of JP's arguments: I don't think he's against government subsidies. He's against the state drive to have us all eating certain types of food. If indeed that is what is happening. Second, agriculture and politics have always been intertwined, and we even saw it recently with the Dutch farmer controversy. Finally, he has never said that eating more vegetables is bad. He is merely against a quota to reduce meat consumption. An important distinction. Kind regards!
Today, it is no longer "make love, not war" but "make salad, not slaughter." ❤ Ironically, Jordan perterson is a whole load of word salad. I love that this video isn't a right vs wrong approach, but it is very grown up, well thought out, and brilliantly produced. Thank you
Some species of bovines would actually cease to extinct, since they are simply raised for food. Their meat is also quite expensive, as they are fed with quality food, and roam relatively free in traditional farms. Same goes for bulls used in bull fights, in Portugal and Spain. I'm not opening a debate. I'm simply stating facts. Extreme emotional behaviours and options, usually end up badly.
Don't forget that he is probably referring to the Canadian food guide here, not the American one. However, in Canada, the food pyramid disappeared in 1992, lol.
Great video as always Ed. Jordan Peterson is just a sad individual that is going to die of atherosclerosis soon. Btw I have read "This is Vegan propaganda" and I have pre-ordered your new book already. You are a true inspiration
Ed, for starters, as a Canadian, please stop equating us to Americans. While we share a huge border with that country, we are not Americans, we have a different political system. Also, don’t think for a moment that any Canadian with a brain can’t see through Jordan’s rants as simply that; Rants which lack veracity. As Canadians, our 1970 era food pyramid evolved along with the recommendations of all other countries on the planet. A few years ago, it evolved again as the Canadian government wisely chose to NOT have industry lobbyists have any say in the development of the recommendations. Because of that decision, the dairy industry didn’t get a say, water was touted as the “ first beverage of choice” and millions of Canadians with lactose intolerance were spared. Non meat sources of protein are no longer an afterthought. Alcohol, even vegan alcohol, is noted as the poison that it actually is. On a hot summer day, I can choose to have a dark ale, but it is with the knowledge that it is not doing my liver any favours. We are not gullible idiot children. Shouty people are discounted by anyone who can see logic for what it is and magical thinking for what it is.
I recall sympathizing with this man and even "defending" him as not that bad in my (almost fully progressive) social circles. Now look at that dude. As irrational as a human can get. What a meltdown.
He is not advocating eating just steak. He simply talks about what works for him. He is a man with multiple health/autommune issues and chose to eat the way he did because it's the only food his body could tolerate.
other than the veganism stupid comments he is a strong voice for freedom of speech, against marxism, and for personal responsibility rather than identity politics and victim mentality. He is also helping quite a bit for men because there is a terrible movement that sees masculinity as toxic which is causing a lot of problems for boys and men.
I haven't seen Jordan Petersen talk in a few years, because frankly it's mind numbing and frustrating, but hearing him now - he's changed so much. He sounds like a cult leader or dictator. His language has become more distinguishingly manipulative. The gas lighting, the misinformation, the self importance, the contradictions. I'm actually really glad to see it. His greatest power used to be his believability and credibility but nobody new to him in 2023 would see him as "the cool kid's philosopher". He drank the coolaid and comes across as a complete kook. Not sleeping for a month? Even Joe Rogan is tip-toing around his next absurd outburst.
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Nooo there is no delivery to Colombia 😭 I know there are not a lot of English speakers here but I'm really dying for a signed copy of any of your books, I love your vids and use your arguments all the time. This book looks awesome, will probably have to get it on Kindle but with no signature 😞
You made it to 450K subs king! Congrats❤
"Authors of good science change their behaviour based on their findings. While Authors of bad science change the findings based on their behaviour" Well said 👏👏👏
Said someone still getting booster shots of mrna
@@thewhitedwarf3846yes that’s an example of good science doofus.
Greetings, minors. We were having a civilised conversation about important matters. Do you wish to partake or spectate?
Well said but wrong. He cited a wrong scientific paper, but he's not carnivore because of that, there's a background that he is purposely ignoring or just lazy to know more about the background.
His family have special food sensitivities that were only fixed by carnivore diet.
👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖
He uses so many wise-sounding words only to cover up he has nothing to say.
Thanks for debunking this nonsense thoroughly, Ed!
Word salad if you will...
Nothing was debunked... Peterson was talking about government overreach and not about Veganism... he's right that the left are narcissists though, that's why you all thought it's about you and your little ideology 😂😂. How typical.
Don’t even think it’s the words he uses, it’s the constant migraine face he pulls that makes it look like he’s been thinking really hard about what he’s saying (when in reality he’s massively constipated 💩) and some people will believe whatever gobbledygook comes out of that grim face before he even opens his mouth because they don’t care about the words, they trust the old, rich frowning man like he’s some sort of wise owl that’s come to TH-cam purely to endow the poor public with its wisdom 😑
He's been doing that since the beginning xD hearing him a couple of times is sometimes enough to catch his tricks
Yup, I've noticed this many years ago. An extensive vocabulary doesn't make you smart or correct. Unfortunately, most people are too lazy to look into things on their own so they'll believe anything he says.
I am 68 yrs old and have been vegan for nearly 12 yrs and at my healthiest ever. I went vegan after seeing horrendous footage of inside a pig slaughter farm which shocked and upset me so much i did not ever want to support any cruel animal industries again. When we know better we can make better and kinder choices.
I am 74 and turned vegan 12 years ago after watching Forks Over Knives. I would never go back. More and more evidence has come up showing that the human body works better if no animal protein is ever fed into it.
Turned 68 today. Went vegan in 2011. 12 years ago. Coincidence Ruth?
too bad theres so many demons on this planet who dont have empathy or think outside of their own comfort zones. Non spiritual beings
What does this have to do with the necessity that humans require animal consumption
@@cIeetz Exactly. Too bad that children aren't taught the importance of empathy and that property and money are the dominant values, rather than empathy. And so it's a vicious, competitive, materialistic society. People aren't much valued, animals are not valued at all except as a commodity.
I can't belive the carnivore study he talks up that much is an online survey on pro-carnivore websites. How does this man have a higher degree in any field?
It's really insane to read. The best part is that they asked the pro carnivore groups to even write the questions that they would be asked. Most carnivore diet people quote that study.
Just shows that you don't actually have to be smart to get a Phd or any degree for that matter. Just have to be able to tick boxes and be persistent. For example do you know anyone who has failed a Phd? I think everyone just gets passed eventually.
I'm sure he knows some of what he is saying is total BS. As long as the books and whatever else he is hocking sells, he doesn't gaf. That's the difference between Jorpy and vegans including Ed, we care more about truth and compassion (ideology) than profit (money).
Academics aren't always intelligent.
@@abdvs325I think anyone who has anything to do with academia will know plenty of people who have stopped half way through their PhDs. I certainly do.
Peterson is a perfect example of the “Emperor’s New Clothes”. His pseudo intellectualism is almost embarrassing but people lap it up. I’ve thought he’s talking nonsense for years and I’ve done my due diligence. I’ve read his books, been to see him speak and even met the man, all to see if I was missing something. I wasn’t. There’s nothing there but arrogant entitlement.
Wow, you're more impressive than me! I don't think I could ever purposefully read his books, even to better understand his supporters, but am glad that people like you exist!
In the world of Trump, Jordan Peterson is all the wisdom you need.
Fake voice does that trick and people fall for that trap
Thanks for sharing🤩
You haven't done any of that, because if you did, you would wake up.
We are very lucky to have Ed as the voice for our movement. So well spoken
thats my boy right there
"movement"? lol. I thought it was a diet.
@@honkymonkey9568 well, clearly you were wrong. Now you learned something new :)
Russia's record on agriculture isn't the best.
@@goodyeoman4534 so?
Jorpy: You should take responsibility for your own actions
Vegans: Okay, I'll stop participating in something I think unethical
Jorpy: Not like that
Peterson is not saying that at all. Why the hell would you bother posting something completely unrelated to the topic? To feel the comradery of the vegan mob? It's all group identity and strawmaning with people like you.
You can stop participating in what you think is unethical just don’t make stop participating in what I don’t think is unethical
@@rodionraskolnikov3853Nobody is making you stop doing that though, are they?
@@robsengahay5614 if you would not force your beliefs onto others then you don’t believe them. Are you honestly going to tell me you wouldn’t make eating animals illegal if you had the power to do so?
@@rodionraskolnikov3853 Nobody is doing that. Dude you’re fight a ghost. Shadow boxing.
Thank you Ed .
You turned me vegan overnight 4 years ago.
Bless you
Me too! Happy anniversary friend ✌️🙏
Weak mind. Time will tell you the truth. Hope you get thru it buddy
@@tomasdelasota8581 Hi! Nowt wrong with being vegan brother...✌️🙂
@@tomasdelasota8581actually takes a strong mind to be vegan in this world
@@tomasdelasota8581 prostate cancer is what I see in your future. Yikes!
Used to look up to JP, can’t stand him now. Excellent job debunking his BS, Ed. You’re the animal advocate the world needs!
He went complete maniac after an initial good start :D
He used to choose his words carefully and thoughtfully, but lately when I heard him say he is no longer allowed to have opinions, and Trudeau has never spoken a true word in his life (whatever you think of Trudeau, I bet he's spoken at least one true word), I realized I was over Peterson. He seemed to know his psych material, but he should have stayed in that lane. I think now he sees himself as some kind of prophet.
Yeah I was the same, he has really derailed lol
To flatter myself, I always thought Peterson was a fraud. But then, a long time ago, I thought Ronald Reagan was wonderful. Shoot me please.
@@prieten49 Oh boy, you're showing your age with that one! We all make mistakes, at least you saw the light. I'm sure somewhere out there, there are people still waiting for trickle down to drop some shiny pennies on them.
Calls veganism restrictive. Proceeds to eat a single food. Brilliant. 🤦♀️
PERIOD
Are you mental? He has a disorder. He can’t eat anything else because it is bad for his health. This is the only thing that works for him
😂
He’s on that colon cancer speedrun
He has autoimmune diseases, if you actually hear his content and not clips from vegans you’ll actually get your facts straight tiktok kid
The reason Jordan's diet "works" is for the same reason someone like me with Crohn's Disease would be prescribed immunosuppressant drugs... he has an autoimmune disease, so making the immune system weaker by eating nothing but meat will stop your body attacking itself long enough to heal. It's part of the reason I got told to eat less fibre after diagnosis. You eat less healthy foods, your immune system isn't as strong, and your body won't attack itself as much. Once inflammation is under control, you get told to reintroduce more fibre, because fibrous foods are largely anti inflammatory, and it keeps inflammation at bay. Peterson's carnivore diet is literally making his immune system crap, proving why vegan diets are for pretty much everyone. I haven't needed to quit veganism just because I have an autoimmune disease. What a sad life it would be to eat nothing but steak as well 🙈
Crohns warrior here and I love and fully agree with your comment
scary that you actualy believe in that
Thanks for sharing ❤❤❤
I like your thinking, thanks for sharing. 💚🌱💪🏻
Yip. I have friends with Crohns and they have said the same.
How can I like this more? Where’s the button for a standing ovation? I’d love to hear Jordan try to respond to this!
For a man who cries easily, Jordan's cruelty towards animals is incomprehensible.
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He's only crying for himself, typical narcissist
Excellent point
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😱💔Absolutely stunned that this man who comes across so intelligent sensitive deeply empathic with the suffering of others , oozes pure love & compassion , bravely bears his heart & soul , raw vulnerability, emotions & deep love.& care for Humanity Yet doesn’t empathise with or care about Other living creatures!! 😳Shocked that he is not deeply enlightened evolved& already a Long term Vegan. !! Sooo heart shocked 😳 deeply disappointed 😢. Heartbroken 💔 gutted 😞 It may well be The Usual tragic Cause . The more intellectual that people are ,from being trained to over use the mind. & to live in their heads not hearts. bodies & souls & it’s the most dangerous thing in the world. The mind disconnected from the heart love empathy 🤗& intuition is a terrifying lethal weapon that commits the worst heinous acts & destroys lives. & ruthlessly Massacres People animals& nature & the world The morally bankrupt cold 🥶 psychopathic mind 🤯can JUSTIFY ANYTHING !! EVEN THE WORST ATROCITIES!! It’s the horror that has Been happening. For millennia Since the start of this dark era of duality separation Thank God now is the time of transformation to compassion respect , unity for ALL life in ALL its different forms ; ALL Living Beings 🙏🪽🙌🏼
I'm not sure why any thinking person would give heed to the imperfect opinions of some ignorant psychology professor. There are a handful of EXTREMELY wise sages currently on this planet who can logically and completely answer practically any question that an intelligent soul is likely to ask regarding morals and ethics.
The fact that Jordan supports men buggering each other (by which I mean, that he supports homosexuality and other criminal activities, such as the unnecessary consumption of poor innocent animals) is MORE than sufficient proof that he is not as religious as he claims, and that any decent, holy person ought to shun his inane teachings and flee into the loving arms of a teacher of Truth.
Furthermore, in a recent interview on Benjamin Shapiro's TH-cam channel, he admitted that his wife figuratively (and I'm sure also LITERALLY) wears the pants in his household. 👖
I would be more than pleased to provide you with links to the TH-cam channels of a few enlightened beings who will quickly set you on the path to perfection, as opposed to the DELUDED moral subjectivism professed by "Doctor" Peterson (pun not intended).
Please find below a couple of such ENLIGHTENED masters to which I referred above:
Professor Alan Watts
(now deceased, so he doesn't have his own TH-cam channel - just search for his videos on numerous extant channels)
Swami Sarvapriyananda
( th-cam.com/users/vedantany1894
or search for "Vivekananda Samiti")
Jagadguru Svāmī Vegānanda
( www.youtube.com/@TheWorldTeacher )
Funny for Jordan to claim vegans are "woke narcissists of compassion" meanwhile everything he says and does is for his own gain. He's basically a white Neil DeGrass-Fed tyson.
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I dunno. At least NDT tries to care about the truth (even if he gets it wrong about veganism.)
Are you familiar with Matt from quantum of conscience???
@@markmichalik2513 trees bleed
"DeGrass-Fed" LMAO 😂
Oh Ed - I haven't watched your content since the early pandemic. I had been involved in low-key and peaceful collective vegan as well as political activism, but after some time the apathy and hostility around me became seriously hard to deal with and I became cripplingly depressed and overwhelmed. I completely stopped activism and retreated into myself. Seeing you speak now, I'm reminded of what a refuge of sanity, grace, and moral integrity you are in this awful world. I'm so so thankful you continue to do the work you do. You truly make a difference!!!
I wish you all the best!!!! You got this 💚🌱
Sending you a big hug. 💜🌸
Well said, Sir. Bravo 👏 from windy Scotland's west coast. 🏴
I wish you also the best. Perfect that you feel better.
Please be carefull with everything that makes you "hard" on the inside. Activism can lead to that if it is not made in a soft approach to yourself and others. With patience and kindness and not the will to "change the world right now". Respect the others, be open to there opinions and never believe we know everything and the absolute truth. We all change our minds by getting older and more experienced, it's a processe. This way you can stay in balance and still make an impact
I so hope you're feeling better❣️
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Jordan Peterson is soooo disappointing. Thank you, Ed for tackling this. I saw his video awhile ago and didn't know where to start because it was so strange to see a fellow Canadian spewing such rubbish.
Peterson is disappointing in a lot of ways, it amazes me people pay attention to him.
Its a shame, he has posted a lot of motivational videos and lectures over the years but since he became a celebrity it is very weird now. I will say his teachings helped me greatly before with getting my life in order but his carnism and his daughter's lion diet grifting is a massive disappointment and a danger to animals and people's health.
He's a good psychologist and social scientist, and a genuinely awful moraliser and theologian. It's a shame he doesn't have enough insight to stick to what he's good at.@@benzeyne99
@@benzeyne99 I also feel like some of his earlier videos helped me get my life in order, and helped me pluck up the courage to stand up to certain abusive people in my life. However, the red flags were there right from the beginning when he first started becoming famous, and they piled up over time until I couldn't ignore them anymore. One particularly disappointing one was when he relied on drugs to cope with his wife's cancer, even though he himself had told people to be stoic in the face of adversity.
Even worse though was in one of his "12 Rules for Life" books, when he told the story of his daughter being diagnosed with juvenile arthritis, and how he ignored the first doctor who diagnosed it because "that doctor gave him bad news! That doctor was BAD!" Honestly, I could have understood if he had said that the doctor seemed untrustworthy or didn't seem to be doing his job thoroughly, because there are bad doctors out there, but no. He dismissed the doctor because the doctor "gave him bad news!" As far as I'm aware, JP has never reflected on how irresponsible and weak-minded his attitude was to let his daughter suffer like that just because he couldn't handle bad news. I don't really like Mikhaila, but she would have been no more than two or three years old at the time.
@@benzeyne99he has become more mentally unstable. He used to make a fair bit of sense. Now, even putting this diet stuff aside, he often sounds like an angry, drunk and senile man
Can we all take a moment to appreciate how well this was delivered by Ed?
It's not hard to debunk Jorpy.
Except the argument about the scientific paper he mentioned Ed is wrong about everything...
He just watched this video to judge Jordan Peterson which does not include the background and reasoning of why he follows a carnivore diet. (Spoiler alert: health issues)
I expect a big backlash from his video. Mark my words.
@@RBJorgeI'm marking your words. Will check for backlash.
@@RBJorge Its true that the Petersons follow the carnivore diet for health reasons, but it's not without ideological ideas behind it. Mikhaila tells she felt a lot better when she started eating meat, when it comes to Jordan he copied her diet. But Jordan has very peculiar ideas about what is healthy and what is not.
And so have vegans.
I just stick to my omnivore diet, like people did for ages (fact).
@@ouwebrood497 then you will have the same incidence of disease like the ones whose diet you copy, at least remember that.
57 years old. Went vegan at 13. Slept great last night.
People act like we bash there beliefs all us vegans do is not eat animals I don’t know why meat eaters are so triggered ?😂
@@Teeki46 guilt-trips are a b***h.
1.Not all vegans represent us the right way.
2. Social psychology, the following text is copy pasted from an article describing why people are offended when you politely refuse alchol, in my opinion the same conclusion can be applied for people not liking the fact that they eat meat and you are vegan:
Essentially, we are tribal social animals. From an evolutionary perspective, early humans had to form social groups to hunt, gather food, protect each other and survive. As a result, we have evolved tendencies to support group cohesion by conforming to group norms and shunning non-conformity.
So if we tend to associate with people who are like us and engage in similar behaviours, and we start doing things in a way that goes against the group norms, such as not drinking in a social situation, this can be a challenge to the acceptability of that behaviour in the group.
Great encouragement- Bless You .
Cool - 45 years !
57 and vegan at 22 - only 35 years. Changed diet after cancer, so also cancer free for 35 years.
Great point about social triggering - refusing offered goods is considered rude in many cultures - many freegans use this to explain why they eat nona's meat.
I ask them if they'd accept every offer from their host - crack, heroin, roofies ? Join in every group activity so as not to disappoint ?
I asked them to reflect on 120 years of history, and the impact of freely leaving one's personal values for a group.
Jordan Peterson is genuinely terrifying
Yes i feel the same and it astounds me how many friends think he is a mentor...his use of big words, name dropping of Nietzsche and Dostoevsky , long monologues often with an annoying amount of hand and finger movement and presenting himself constantly as a tragic victim of those who don't agree with him is clearly manipulative and it seems highly effective in persuading other people who share his biases.
I do appreciate his stance on freedom of speech and defense of the Canadian truckers.
I have to add his melodramatic, tragic, sentimental stories about himself as a victim of others is contrary to his self righteous prescription to everyone else to be reject a victim mentality. He seems to be unable to recognize a genuine victim from a perpetrator feeling very sorry for themselves.
His moral framework regarding animals is very frightening.
JOHN HILL seeing you here gives me chills in the best and most beautiful way
yes he is lol, and utterly moronic
He has become a real sociopath
You mean approximating terrifying? For 8 hours of course
I find it pretty amazing how someone as smart as I used to believe he was, JP still hasn't worked out that his illness and that of his daughter significantly improved when he went on a mono diet because he/they had removed everything they had formerly consumed and that clearly one of those, or a combination of some of those foodstuffs were making him/them sick. So not what he IS eating , rather what he IS NOT eating is key...he just doesn't (presumably) know what it is and chooses to believe it is meat...he could have chosen let's say, apples only or bananas only and might well have achieved the same result.
Well said.
@@markj7612 you're utterly delusional if you believe living on an Apple diet will help you survive even a week 🤣🤣
@@readysoldier6799 thats obviously not the point he or she was making at all... 🤣
Neil DeGrasse Tyson is pretty dumb too when it comes to veganism, I guess it's hopeful that even geniuses make mistakes
Exactly, their microbiome is probably even more messed up now that they've only been eating meat. They will never be able to eat anything else without having major gut problems. That is not being healthy.
"constipated with pseudoscience" best line ever 😂
Veganist diarrhoea cannot compare.
Jordan Peterson calls someone else a narcissist? That's rich.
I saw a clip of him on an interview saying that there's no evidence that high cholesterol causes heart disease 🤣 surprising how wrong he's about the topic of eating animals, I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that her daughter has an autoimmune disease and meat is supposedly one of the few foods that dont trigger symptoms for her 🤔
Lol same thoughts
Yeah it’s so funny how narcissists call other people narcissists & will never accept that they themselves are narcissists 😅😅😒 it’s nauseating actually…
For a psychology guy it’s actually incredible how much projection this guy does.
Like about everything he accuses people of he does.
He also is a huge misogynist and is obsessed with “traditional masculinity” but acts like a hysterical Victorian housewife from a movie whenever the “woke moralists” do something that upsets him. He’s also barred out a lot apparently
Jordan Peterson calling any other person a narcissist is hilarious 😂 god, I hate that guy
Gay veggie boy wanna cry?
@@georgewashingtom6516 U forgot to say that u are going to eat a steak now, how silly. Must be some sort of deficiency.
@@georgewashingtom6516 holy shit dude, you seem to leave a lot of comments in Ed's videos. Thanks for the engagement 😂
@@georgewashingtom6516 Thanks for helping the video, noodle-armed animal abuser!
No, that's jorpy's bag.@@georgewashingtom6516
I am actually embarrassed on behalf of Jordan but massively concerned as he has such a long reach and is believed by so many
I'm so scared for the wellbeing of his followers. There's always numerous comments on his videos blatantly admitting that they will believe anything he says without question.
Yep, he's given to stridently opining on matters he knows nothing about. He's a prize fool.
He brought his blood work results on Joe Rogan in 2018(?) or something and his free testosterone was comparable to an 85yo man and his cholesterol had skyrocketed.
He actually tried to handwave his testosterone levels away by saying his body was more efficient at using it and that’s why there was less free testosterone 🤦♀️
Mic the Vegan did a response video on it. I think it’s directly called “Jordan Peterson blood work results” or some such.
I agree. Thankfully, the animals have Ricky Gervais, who has easily got more reach and believability than Peterson.
@@alanmiles5634 eh… Gervais is a twatwaffle on his best days… Ed has more positive impact and better visibility than Gervais.
I knew Jordan was a conman but I'd never imagine he'd sink this low
I did, look at his daughter. I don't think he is any better lol
probably he is not talking about EVERY vegan, but the phenomenon how he sees it: people get on the vegan train to show everyone how "good" and "modern" they are.
Not even his lowest low
I saw a clip of him on an interview saying that there's no evidence that high cholesterol causes heart disease 🤣 surprising how wrong he's about the topic of eating animals, I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that her daughter has an autoimmune disease and meat is supposedly one of the few foods that dont trigger symptoms for her 🤔
@@dekyor9547 she says her carnivore diet cured her autoimmune but actively still switches up her diet bc the diet is not healthy or sustainable. Pretty sure she got scurvy or almost did from not getting in vitamin C. She most definitely influenced his food choices.
I've always struggled to comprehend why Peterson has got such a large following
He rode the 2016 say bad stuff about trans people train wearing an "I'm a psychologist" hat. A bunch of lonely teenage boys and old men bought it and became his fan base.
The people against him made him famous @@JP-sm4cs
Dumb people love pseudo "experts". They also have serious fetiche for those who say average opinions as if was saying something extraordinary and "subverting the system ".
he just appears to be intelligent and a smooth talker and hides his toxicity well, to the untrained eye. it's when you watch boat loads of clips, you catch how sick he is. i watched one clip and his misogyny was so insane, it was lights out. this was after appearing relatively reasonable in several previous ones. the disappointing part for me was that he managed to hoodwink a couple people i thought were smarter than to fall for him.
It's simple! Because majority of "humans" are idiots. And an idiot relates and bonds to an even bigger idiot.
I cannot wait for the day Joe Rogan gets drunk enough to send Earthling Ed an invite.
Joe Rogan is a kiss @ss
😂😂😂😂😂
I had a Jordan Peterson “phase” back in 2017/2018. Cant say I’m proud of that
I'd rather be caught with pron on my bookshelf than one of his books ;)
same dude. The important thing is it was a phase.
Welcome back to reality :) and if you don't question what the substrate of reality is, you're on a good path.
in your defense, he's gotten WAY worse since then
Same here! I defended him to so many people, then he showed his true colours
You are an intellectual weapon, Ed. Thank you so much for this
Indeed, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶
The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩
Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT ban animal agriculture!
“I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”.
Mr. Ed Gaunt, So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐
th-cam.com/video/Sl5GpxLXnuI/w-d-xo.html
Go to the 8:15 mark.
A clown weapon with no Bullets 😂
I noticed when I was eating flesh how much anger I held within and now 8 years of going plant based the anger has disappeared.
But I can now recognize it in meat eaters. Before I knew Mr. Peterson was a carnivore that anger was most apparent.
I'm always impressed by how intelligently vegan TH-camrs present their arguments in comparison to non-vegans/anti-vegans.
Well, it's easy to be on the vegan side. All good and substantiated arguments live there. Arguing for the other side is a losing battle but they do valiantly try.
@@feelingoffbalance It’s fair to say that there is stronger evidence in support of vegan arguments but Ed, Mic the Vegan and others always present such intelligent analyses of academic research, describing the sampling, scope, limitations and special considerations surrounding specific papers… it demonstrates intelligence. I sometimes feel like anti-vegan TH-camrs aren’t always misrepresenting academic papers, they actually don’t understand them.
VEGANS ARE THE BEST. MASTER RACE. VERY BALANCED PEOPLE. LIKE GRETA THUNDBERG. NO NARCISSISTIC SHOW OFFS AT ALL. PURE, GREEN ENERGY.
is there at least one 100 years old vegan living on earth?
Vegans need reasons, the rest of us have no issue eating meat.
In his own words, Jordan Peterson didn't sleep for 25 days.... the world record for no sleep is 11 days... if he can't even tell a true statement about his sleeping behaviour, then why would anyone believe him about anything else?! 25 days without sleep would likely end in death.
The official world record might be 11 days, but the real number will likely be longer.
world record for no sleep is 11 for an average guman.
Listening to the bs he’s talking, i absolutely believe he has a lack of sleep 😂
Obvs he just meant 6 hours instead of his usual 8 😅
"25 days without sleep would likely end in death"
...or paranoia and insanity. I'm actually inclined to believe the man on that point.
I became vegan late in my life. Am sixty-eight years old and have been vegan for 12 years. It wasn't a health issue for me, because i was already in good health then and am still enjoying good health now. For me, it was and is a compassion issue. Saw a clip about pigs being gassed to death, their screams of pain while their insides were burned alive still echo in my mind. My compassion exploded to life while they were dying. Woke up vegan the next morning. I lay curled up depressed for three months. Lost 50 pounds. Which wasn't a big loss. The biggest loss was my own ignorance of what was going on to animals raised for human consumption. Once i uncurled myself from my depression i dove deep into educating myself on plant-based diets. I was overwhelmed to find out how many animal products were slipped into almost everything. Educated myself, and then went out to educate those whom i called friends and family. Was quickly without family and friends.Not a big loss. Found out who my real friends a family are. I have a handful of friends who have become family and share my compassion for sentient beings. Ed, i have been watching you for years now and totally support, admire, and love what you are doing. It takes tons of energy to do what you do and i pray for more power to you. when ppl ask me why i am vegan my answer is compassion. That shuts off any argument ppl might want to have with me.
What's the point? Just have a burger and relax for pity sake.
I always respect people's "feelings" even if I don't agree with them or find them rational. I do not condone animal cruelty at all and I fully agree that this has to improve.
Bioethics fascinates me. So i'd like to ask, given how highly sensitive and empathetic you seem to be, I would be curious to know what is your stance with regards to HUMAN abortion? Do you support the notion of "my body my choice"? Or do you support it only in the 1% or so of extreme cases (abuse/mother's health), up to a "certain point" of pregnancy or all the way up till birth?
Let's say we were to reach a global compromise whereby animals were given exactly the same rights as the human foetus and could be aborted for consumption up to the same time limit as the human foetus, would you find this an acceptable compromise then? Animals are not "asking" to be terminated/consumed sure. The human foetus is not asking to be terminated either due to poor social/governmental support of the poorest communities, political depravity, profit (planned parenthood profits from every abortion, it's a business for them. Look into it), poor judgement, promiscuity, irresponsible behaviour, lack of accountability/moral values or a sudden career opportunity or a whim for that matter. Note that the wealthiest societies now have some of the highest rates of abortion depending on where you are looking. So what's your take on all that?
A few more questions if you don't mind. Do you think it is ethical and dignified to set "conditions" to establish the value of a human life at any point from the womb to the tomb? For e.g. consider that statement: "human life has value and deserves full protection as a human ONLY IF it is 24 weeks old, is "desired" by the mother or both parents, is not "disabled" in any way or is deemed worthy of coming/staying into existence if not a burden on the community". Would you have issues with anything in that statement? In terms of sentience, what's the difference between a human/animal foetus still inside the womb and that same foetus that was just born a minute or an hour ago?
At what point would you consider that a human foetus and an animal foetus become "sentient"? (whichever way you understand the word). What has more value to you, a non-sentient human foetus in the very early stages of development or a fully grown animal (that you consider "sentient" although I don't perceive human and animal sentience to be of equal value but that's another conversation)? What I mean is, hypothetically, if you had the opportunity to save either an unborn human foetus at the very early stages of development or a full grown cow irrespective of the mother's desires and social expectations etc (let's say hypothetically a "test tube" human foetus in a fully equipped post apocalyptic lab/incubator you came across), what would be your choice? Would you give that test tube human foetus a chance to come into existence or would you consider it "just a piece of tissue" and save the cow? Many may find this question far-fetched but think again. I believe that If we are unable to be honest with ourselves about "far-fetched" hypotheticals (e.g. what would you do if you won the lottery tomorrow or who would you save first, your parents, husband, wife or your kids?) then it means we have a lot of work to do on ourselves. Note that I'm not saying "should" but rather that "would"...and I'm not judging or claiming I would make the "right" choice either as there may not always be a "right" choice. I am as flawed as any other human being. I'm just saying those are the kind of questions we should be asking ourselves to see where we stand with our code of ethics and morals from time to time.
@@youbeever Do you respect the feelings of Donald Trumps supporters?
Jordan Peterson: Old man shakes fist at clouds. The ignorant person's 'intellectual'.
@@CRM-114 💯
Also, hello fellow INTJ. 👋
lmao well said@@CRM-114
@@CRM-114gen z intellectual 😅 (z for zombie) as he looks like vampire.. Not heathly at all he a gaslighting narcissist its sad he got such a platform
Appeal to that stone JP
JP’s story about breaking his diet and the paranoia and insomnia sound like an eating disorder. He’s gone so far off the deep end it’s just sad now.
Regardless, his rhetoric and misinformation still get attention. Thank you for this thoughtful and evidence-backed response, Ed!
It actually sounds like a drug-induced hallucination or a big fat concocted story. No way he didn't sleep for 26 days!
Thank you. It's good to have a professional doctor that can judge a symptom by not having any test.
World it's saved by people like you ❤.
I'm pretty sure I went from vegatarian to vegan a couple days after I started watching your videos, which was about a year ago, and I've learned so much from you!! Although I'd NEVER even THINK about going back, everything you teach just continuously reminds me that I made the best decision for not only myself, but those precious animals. Thank you Ed! Love your book by the way ❤
Jordan Peterson looks and sounds like a marvel villain. Some people shouldn’t comment on veganism if they aren’t educated in that field. Also, we shouldn’t listen to anyone on a carnivore diet. Pathetic. Ed, you slayed this one, yet again ♥️
Agreed, Some people shouldn’t comment on any subject if they aren’t educated in that field, especially if that opinion indirectly or actively causes harm to other sentient beings.
WELL PUT
The reason Dr. Peterson has taken interest is because vegans have attacked him because his daughter has a disease and eats only meat to deal with it. Due to their popularity this insane diet has been spreading among his followers. Then he gets backlash from people concerned and vegans. Then its back and forth.
Personally think it is very irresponsible to advocate meat only diet to a population of obese people with heart problems where most will die from heart diseases or complications or diseases from animal products simply because it helped his daughter.
I'm so happy we have Ed on our team
“CARNIVORE GIVES BENEFITS IN JUST SUX MONTHS!”
Just about any diet with calorie restriction of any kind can appear beneficial for six months. Talk to me in five years when your arteries are closes solid.
Many carnivore for years have perfect cardiovascular health 😊
Also Ed thank you for being the vegan voice we need. The way you speak is so calm and knowledgeable. You look at real facts and I want to learn how to harness your composure when confronted with frustrating situations and people.
25 days without sleep is an insane claim, if it’s true Jordan should apply for the world record and volunteer to be a participant in a sleep lab.
He chats 💩 he chats so much 💩 sometimes you can't hear him cos of all the 💩 just constantly pouring out of his mouth.
Ohhhhhh I'm gonna paste the URL to this video on every Jordan Peterson video I watch 👏👏👏👏👏👏
SO DARN GLAD you’re covering these popular pro-carnivore diet endorsers by refuting with hard facts and logic! About time that happened! Next up: Mikhaila Peterson please! She’s another huge promoter of a scarily unhealthy “cult” diet!
Those carnivores are just people reacting to veganism. Both are just as irrational.
Oh right because no human can have bad food intolerances that can only be fixed by carnivore diet.
Imagine being so narcissistic that you can't even realize there's people that can disagree with you for legit health problems.
You are literally calling from a cult a person that has many auto immune diseases. Did you even hear Mikhaila arguments about it? I bet you 100$ you didn't. Go ahead and be surprised..m
@@ouwebrood497 If you choose empathy for other living beings and decide not to contribute to their suffering and slaughter, for the betterment of the planet and your own health, what’s irrational about that?
@@MarcusUnread Empathy with your prey is an emotion. Fear for the end of the world is an emotion. It's not rational.
@@ouwebrood497 You still haven't said WHY it's irrational, just that *emotions are irrational, which is not an accepted interpretation. It's common thought that empathy promotes emotional intelligence which is regarded as a form of rationality.
Jordan Peterson has lost his mind, he is getting cancelled right and left, maybe people are just now figuring out he was never that smart all along.
He’s really not. His long rambling talks remind me of someone on coke.
lol i lost all respect for one dude who i used to follow and respect highly because he started parroting peterson in the most idiotic ways, i could not believe this guy was that gullible, ironically peterson stands for the very thing he was trying to educate people against (narcissism) lol
@@appletvaccount1364 lol you guys talk like he’s your daddy
Chauncey Gardner = Jordan Peterson.
He is pretty damn smart but like many smart people he has cognitive dissonance and is not logical when it comes to plant based diet and vegan lifestyle.
The two things i noticed dumb about him are misuse of word narcissist (not just vs vegans) and the diet rubbish. I have not seen anything else so compared to most people he is still top of the top smart. Naturally anyone with different political preferences are going to claim he is dumb especially those threatened by him such as Marxists and anti free speech authoritarians.
his books are quite good and helpful, super popular so i dont know how anyone could claim he is cancelled.
Calm, collected, informed & perfectly put. Yet again Ed, you havent disappointed!
You are the voice for so many of us. We thank you for your time & efforts!
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Thank you, Ed! Love how you calmly destroy these totally misleading claims!!! ❤
Hello, Evan.
Destroy with what? Woke propaganda?
@@jlambe19surprise: you're actually the one who is indoctrinated!
the real problem is how people like this man JP manage to become a "public" and an "influential" person...misteries of the modern world!
Read his books- there is value in there, as I’ve said in another comment his writings promote the values which led me to veganism.
He became influential to me the moment he explained his views on trans people because I agree with him.
Like all people, he’s not 100% good or bad, but he seems to be extreme versions of both yin & yang. He really thinks he’s helping people. And when he speaks on matters in his own damn field, he has many accurate insights to afford. But then he screws it all up when he attacks trans people & vegans. Not to mention, he has gotten so much worse in the past few years, with his very obvious delusions of grandeur. He needs to go take a vow of silence for a year at a monastery & clear all the gunk out of his mind. And most importantly, get his hands dirty pumping water out of wells, sweeping floors, & HUMBLING himself. This guy should not have a microphone right now.
people are stupid throughout history and have always found reasons to follow a cult leader, case in point the person above me.
a narcissist thirsting for an audience lol
I'm Indian, we have been pushing plant based diets for centuries, so I guess we're all just a bunch of woke narcissists. Another colonizer who has more judgements for us, how nice.
hail you indian people, bless you for all your plant based dishes😁
I don't think he is talking about you!
Yes, Peterson is very silly in so many ways
The amount of young guys I know who idolize JP is astounding.
Thanks for tackling this Ed! I will be sharing this A LOT...
I'm sooo looking forward to the book release 💚
Very smart response to all the bs coming from from JP. I especially appreciate that you've noticed his victim narrative at all times. What a guy.
21:04 "If this story is true, something is very very wrong with Jordan. And if it's not true and he's making it up, well then something is very very wrong with Jordan."
We love you Ed! You're brilliant!
It makes no sense to me that Jordan isn’t Vegan considering everything else he says
exactly. he is a MASSIVE hypocrite.
I agree. It's such a bizarre case of cognitive dissonance that I can't even begin to understand... I keep hoping he'll come out of this insane stage ... but he seems to dig in his heels even more each year.
It's not just that his opinion is what it is. He actually gathers what he's calling studies, which are basically just questionnaires asking people about their diets, and calls them evidence. I'm very disillusioned by him. I don't think I can listen to him anymore.
Meat earers live longer, while vegans are weak and have horrible health. Why would he be vegan. Even ppl in the blue zones are not vegan
I know people like him and they gaslighted em selfs into thinking veganism is a Illuminati plot to control and surprise the people 😂 Literally clowns
The witty vegan puns in this video are all I needed during these desperate times. Thank you Ed for your invaluable work.
A a Canadian, I apologize for the idiocy that is Jordan Peterson
Ummmm no mention of your satanic prime minister Trudue??
JP used to deliver some quite interesting advices and overall analysis on psycho-social behaviors. Turns out, he's now a world class troll with some pretty dangerous / offensive comments, that no one really asked for, around subjects he knows clearly nothing about. I'm not a vegan but... I happen to value actual knowledge. Way to go, Ed !
How can a comment be dangerous?
@@ryanleemartin7758 Well, I could give an example, but don't want to get banned ;-)
I believe the "climate change isn't real" comment is a pretty horrendous take.
Yes, it's sad to see how JP deteriorated.
@@ryanleemartin7758Rampant paranoia is incredibly dangerous and Peterson is displaying this in spades.
Solid solid video. Thanks, Ed for continuing to be the herald for the animals and as always a voice for us fellow vegans!
If that guy ate some carbs, he might have enough strength to properly open his eyes while speaking.
😂 this is a great comment
It makes me shiver with every cell of my body, hearing Jordan speak such bullsh*t.
And I say this as a vegan, but also as a human being, researcher, and soon-to-be psychologist.
Merely as someone from the field of psychology, I already always warned how much Jordan is damaging our professional field, but now this is yet another reason not to listen to him.
yes indeed. it's really idiotic, too, that others give him the kind of legitimacy he of course craves, but certainly doesn't merit
He’s doing amazing work at upholding the actual ethical standards. Grad school brainwashes you through hazing and abuse like social ostracism if you dare question the narrative. Check your biases. I was a hater too before I actually bothered to listen to him in long form myself.
"Sleep paralysis demon" 😂 Ed you're cookin' 🔥
It's quite remarkable how persuasive Jordan Peterson can appear when one lacks knowledge about the subject he's discussing. Yet, it's equally astonishing how exasperating it can be to listen to him when one is well-informed about the topic and realizes that most of what he says is nonsense.
no just no i disagree hard, there is nothing persuasive about JP, in fact all i see is someone using smart sounding words with little commen sense in them.
Great job Ed! It’s amazing how well you can cut someone down to size, without resorting to nasty tactics. You’re always polite, but with a ruthless dedication to the facts and basic logic. Cheers! I’m always grateful for your efforts 🙏💖
Jordan 'the ultimate victim' Peterson
I wouldn't take advice from Peterson about what to put in my body, He's a clinical psychologist, who should be knowledgeable about the dangers, who became dependent on benzodiazapines.
Jordan Peterson used to be a vegetarian but pivoted away for his "meat" audience. All records of this got memory-holed off the internet
yeah, he is good in some areas..but not in this one...
Never knew that. What's the source for that.
He's certainly got the money to bury any information he doesn't want known. He also shills for Good Ranchers Meat, I'm sure he has lots of stock invested in the "grass-fed" racket.
For his audience, right. I'm sure his daughter story and his progressive elimination diet didn't make a difference. It's 100% just to satisfy his followers.
Thanks for the explanation.
@@RBJorge Nah elimination diets can make a difference. It's important to recognise that and why.
Increasingly irrelevant hate monger and dismal excuse of a psychologist seeks to attack vegans to get attention.
I'm shocked. Shocked I say 😒
Kudos to Ed for always fighting the good fight. (And hope Jordan Peterson finally learns the definition of 'narcissism' 🙄)
And as always folks, don't forget to make your bed - JP is lurking under yours to make sure you do 🙃
Meat eaters live longer, and most ppl are unhealthy for eating things that are vegan. Vegans are the most unhealthiest ppl on earth. How much soda and frigging candy is vegan?
What I love the most is that people are so adamant and upset when you bring veganism up in conversation. B/c they know what their doing is wrong but don't want to face it. I always show peta's chicken/beef in reverse and people are like I don't want to see that, you don't want to see what your doing?
Jordan Peterson actually sees himself as a martyr and whines endlessly about how much he "suffers" from depression day and night - he should be made to spend some time in factory farms and be treated just the same as his innocent victims so he can learn the true meaning of suffering.
Exactly.
What a perfect karma that would be.
what is it his evan depressed about btw?
I don’t think the idea that he talks in very long words means he’s an intellectual. He seems to think so though.
It’s great to hear someone with an actual intellect, who knows what he is talking about, taking his nonsense apart.
Wait isn't Ed doing that but on your side? He uses compassion and morality arguments to make himself to look intellectual.
But indeed he is just using the same arguments religion used to use 200 years ago.
no that is what a real intellectual is, someone who use long winded word to sound like they smart when they aren't
@@artlover2866 that sounds very much like many people I know but not him.
@@RBJorge perhaps he’s using compassion to show that we can all be compassionate towards living creatures? I’m pretty sure us as simple as that.
@@juliewake4585 I think he uses it as the ultimate debate argument that no one can answer.
Come on, his 2 books are based on vegans argueing with "meat eaters".
You're vegan? Okay! Congratulations! But dont judge and fight people for not being.
Thats why i compare it with religious people.
Jordan Peterson: "Listen up, you idiots! I know how to say a lot of words without making any point". Been going on for years...
Ed’s humour is amazing, I love the subtle yet more than justified digs 😂
Bruh slaughter is a bad thing yet you slaughtered him 💀
Jordan lives in an area where the crops are heavily sprayed with glyphosate. He was ok eating wheat, grains and other veggies until after 2010 he and his family began getting highly exposed. This is why the gut problems began occuring to his whole family at the same time. So it's not the plants, it's the herbacides/pesticides. But he doesn't realize it and blames the plants. 😅 Ok, I just made this up but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case.
Plus meat and the animals have 10x the amount of pesticides and herbicides than non organic grains & veggies.
They even spray the chemicals directly onto the animals!
Not to mention 75% of all antibiotics produced in the US get given to livestock which ends up in their flesh too.
Holy shit Ed, that was NOT a humane slaughter.
This is hands down the most satisfying video I’ve seen that calls bs on a carnifool. The humor was impeccable & well-timed too. I used to revere JP for all his insights on all things Psychology & Sociology. As a whole, the man seems to be confined by delusions of grandeur (which is a trait that narcissists have) so I don’t see any reason to listen to his ramblings when there are so many other Psychologists out there who are brilliant & actually humble.
I would never go to that guy for therapy if he has veganism this twisted imagine what he could do to your mental health, LOl, Thanks Ed, Btw you are still as awesome as ever can't wait to read the new book!
The best argument is stating that all LAWS are based upon the one Universal and Natural LAW of "Do no Harm". That means not just against humans but our environment.
Years ago, my sister told me about how amazing this guy was, she sent me a link and within a few minutes of listening to him I knew he had an agenda and told my sister I thought so. Members of my family still love him and it's a mystery to me as to why.
JP is the cartoon, super villain, whose superpower is hypnotizing people into believing he is brilliant when he actually says nothing important or even interesting
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@@katiesdumbvideos5418 There was a German once, with a Charlie Chaplin moustache, who talked gobbledegook exactly the same.....
Everybody is Hitler these days
Interesting I turned 68 today and became vegan in 2011. Coincidence?
This was a fantastic video. I've been a vegan for a number of years and have continued to improve my eating habits. I eat less processed foods like vegetable oil and margerine. Stick to natural wholesome foods.
The problem is that a person with enough charisma can make the masses believe their bs, and that's exactly what Jordan Peterson is doing, consciously or not. As a psychologist, he's probably very aware of it.
It's not charisma -- he's a rich gatekeeper, that's why you see him everywhere.
The masses don't need to charisma to eat our ntaural diet.
You know what drives me crazy?
It’s ok if people want to debate veganism, but at least do the bare minimum and study it before. Vegans are not saints and don’t want to be. We are aware that all leave some foot print during our stay in this world. The whole thing is simply avoiding harm when not necessary. Not going out of your way to cause more damage. Simple like this. For the people who want to expose themselves out there and talk about vegans, please, at least know the actual definition of it. I promise you’ll still have a lot to discuss and debate, but at least it will save you of some embarrassment…
💯 bro 💯 I used to make the same stupid arguements and excuses now I'm vegan for life !! Thank God someone showed me 1 of the main truths of this human life !!!!!
no one wants to really debate vegans because ones they do they realize that they have been eating and killing animals for no good reason.
In Germany we say "Schuster bleib bei deinen Leisten" which is a saying that means, that everybody should stick to their business where they got the expertise. It's horrible that so much "intellectuals" keeps spreading misinformation. Be it J.P. or Neil Degrasse Tyson or our Richard David Precht who also talks about stuff he doesn't know nothing about way to often (sorry if I made any mistakes-I'm not very good in English).
Greetings to all and thanks to Ed for his fantastic work.
Go vegan💚
My parent were born in Germany and I agree with your point 100%.
Your English is good :)
Truly Amazing video, Jordan is so delusional he almost needs a psychologist.
You had me laughing here, mate. Good video. I'm a meat-eater and don't support veganism, but I had a listen to your arguments out of curiosity.
A couple of points relating to your critique of some of JP's arguments:
I don't think he's against government subsidies. He's against the state drive to have us all eating certain types of food. If indeed that is what is happening.
Second, agriculture and politics have always been intertwined, and we even saw it recently with the Dutch farmer controversy.
Finally, he has never said that eating more vegetables is bad. He is merely against a quota to reduce meat consumption. An important distinction.
Kind regards!
Today, it is no longer "make love, not war" but "make salad, not slaughter." ❤
Ironically, Jordan perterson is a whole load of word salad.
I love that this video isn't a right vs wrong approach, but it is very grown up, well thought out, and brilliantly produced.
Thank you
Some species of bovines would actually cease to extinct, since they are simply raised for food. Their meat is also quite expensive, as they are fed with quality food, and roam relatively free in traditional farms. Same goes for bulls used in bull fights, in Portugal and Spain. I'm not opening a debate. I'm simply stating facts. Extreme emotional behaviours and options, usually end up badly.
Don't forget that he is probably referring to the Canadian food guide here, not the American one. However, in Canada, the food pyramid disappeared in 1992, lol.
JP went from being a psychologist to being a GENIUS about everything. How did this happen?
YOU NEED TO GO UP AGAINST PIERS MORGAN AND JORDAN PETERSON!! We have way too many social media influencers doing that and they’re picked on purpose.
They'd never have him on as they know they cannot win and will just be humiliated
@@medinabello19 exactly. Their sigma male mentality is so pathetic. They actually think people find that attractive??
Great video as always Ed. Jordan Peterson is just a sad individual that is going to die of atherosclerosis soon.
Btw I have read "This is Vegan propaganda" and I have pre-ordered your new book already.
You are a true inspiration
Ed, for starters, as a Canadian, please stop equating us to Americans. While we share a huge border with that country, we are not Americans, we have a different political system. Also, don’t think for a moment that any Canadian with a brain can’t see through Jordan’s rants as simply that; Rants which lack veracity. As Canadians, our 1970 era food pyramid evolved along with the recommendations of all other countries on the planet. A few years ago, it evolved again as the Canadian government wisely chose to NOT have industry lobbyists have any say in the development of the recommendations. Because of that decision, the dairy industry didn’t get a say, water was touted as the “ first beverage of choice” and millions of Canadians with lactose intolerance were spared. Non meat sources of protein are no longer an afterthought. Alcohol, even vegan alcohol, is noted as the poison that it actually is. On a hot summer day, I can choose to have a dark ale, but it is with the knowledge that it is not doing my liver any favours. We are not gullible idiot children.
Shouty people are discounted by anyone who can see logic for what it is and magical thinking for what it is.
I recall sympathizing with this man and even "defending" him as not that bad in my (almost fully progressive) social circles. Now look at that dude. As irrational as a human can get. What a meltdown.
Yes, exactly. He's moving in a rather unsavoury direction. Also, I think he would benefit from therapy for his anger issues.
He is clearly displaying paranoid delusion sparked by fear that the power and influence of white christian men is diminishing.
yeah, he's lost the plot. a loooong time ago lol
you were sympathizing with him? why.
Being compassionate is wonderful. Be loving and kind, and if you can't, be calm and wise.
Yes it is, that's why I choose compassion for ex vegans unlike vegans who lack compassion for our own species
Love you Ed! Hopefully one day in the future this will be a vegan world 🌍 We can only live in hope...😢👏✌️🙏♥️♥️♥️
Based Ed as per usual, the pride of the vegan community
It is clear who is healthier - physically and mentally! Well done Ed 👏
Ed is a toothpick and wears makeup he doesn’t look healthy
I wonder what ed winters would look like if he took of his shirt? 😂😂
He is not advocating eating just steak. He simply talks about what works for him. He is a man with multiple health/autommune issues and chose to eat the way he did because it's the only food his body could tolerate.
i find it sooooo weird that this angry man gets so much traction online. probably a symptom of the rage present in our society. nice video again Edd!
other than the veganism stupid comments he is a strong voice for freedom of speech, against marxism, and for personal responsibility rather than identity politics and victim mentality. He is also helping quite a bit for men because there is a terrible movement that sees masculinity as toxic which is causing a lot of problems for boys and men.
JP talks far too often about things he has zero qualifications on.
I haven't seen Jordan Petersen talk in a few years, because frankly it's mind numbing and frustrating, but hearing him now - he's changed so much. He sounds like a cult leader or dictator. His language has become more distinguishingly manipulative.
The gas lighting, the misinformation, the self importance, the contradictions. I'm actually really glad to see it. His greatest power used to be his believability and credibility but nobody new to him in 2023 would see him as "the cool kid's philosopher". He drank the coolaid and comes across as a complete kook. Not sleeping for a month? Even Joe Rogan is tip-toing around his next absurd outburst.