Some cars were fast. Very few. Most were just loud. All that noise, and going nowhere. Once there were cars sounding like a weed eater, I was done. Sounds like such shit. Gimme a mustang with an xpipe and flowmasters all day.
@Mario They might've had modified transmissions, but you don't see them in the movies - it's been explained in this video that they use a body shell to simulate interior shots.
@@ToyotaSPRINTERTRUENO1986kouki Yea they modified them with 2 speed rearends & 19 speeds out of a Peterbilt Trucks. Didn't you see the Jake brakes too?!!? 😂 🤘🤪
@@AwayV2 i have seen the prelude.....,🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄bro just now the car is black.....eith different wheels but still same bodykit and wing . Its new owner will restore it back to its movie condition... Craig said it....listen more carefully
Imagine a kid that is, let's say 15 today that has been watching almost at most in his/her life hd (1080p, 4k) videos or games and we show him/her a early 2000 and what was supposed to be hd. It might not seem a big difference to us considering that we've used to see movies at low "resolution" but to them it is.
3:15-Notice the old school Nokia phone with matching color as the car. I used to love my old Nokia and would play that game snake all the time. Anyone else remember that game?
@Umar IFL Umar The millions of fans who literally fly to CA just to take pics in front of the house and the people who drive their cars and take pics in front of it everyday. It's as much a part of the franchise as the cars.
@@mrhoa1237 Bullshit. I know plenty of people and have seen plenty of people make that trip SPECIFICALLY to go see that house and all of the other filming locations from the movie. Anything else is an afterthought. YOU may not go but don't you say what other people don't do or haven't done...
This video is outstanding, Craig. Hearing the story come directly from you is icing on the cake. This particular scene from 2F2F inspired so many of us to get into the tuner car scene. I now own a MKIV Supra turbo and its all because of the awe inspiring cars you designed for these films. Thank you!
Ohhhhh I miss my 'ol SRT4, lol. I wonder what would have happened to the price of those things if that was the hero car of that movie? Probably not a lot would have changed, but I'm really curious if they'd be more sought after. They're not exactly super common.
The thing is, when I hear the words "booty-ass car"... even if we weren't talking about this movie of which this car is a part of... the FIRST thing that comes to mind is that purple convertible Eclipse.
6:40 Oh man- those glowing brake rotors looked fantastic. It's too bad it wasn't considered an integral part of the story....I think it would've looked great on the screen.
Thank you for doing the service to these cars. Because the nature of tuning culture I feel that these cars in particular especially with all of the Bucks and doubles needed, and the constant replicas might be even more necessary to set the facts straight more than say the Mad Max Interceptor or the General Lee...
@@WindyCity1992 Dodge actually claimed that the SRT4 was the fastest car in the world for under $20,000 from 2003, to 2005. Apparently, for the money, there was nothing on the road that was faster at that time.
Obviously the GTR is a better choice than the Neon. But as someone who used to track a Neon at the time, I wouldn't have minded seeing an SRT-4 in place of the Evo.
@@ce9aftw713 I don't know about "In every way", from what I can tell (not that I've driven either but I assume most uf us haven't) the only thing the Evo has over the SRT4 is that the Evo is AWD. The SRT4 easily could have kept up with the Eclipse the Evo co-starred with.
Both cars shared their non turbo 2.0L engines. The SRT4 was definitely not a poseur chassis wise, and tore ass better than anything FWD had a right to - is its turbo engine related to the 4G63 at all?
@@nthgth Its basically more related to the 2.4L in a Stratus, etc. than the 4G63. You can actually build a Stratus engine up to the equivalent of the SRT4 engine. DCR (Darrell Cox Racing) has actually taken the SRT4 engine over 1,200whp, and theyll sell you all the parts to do so. Engine wise, it's just as buildable as the 4G63, but still remains FWD....and unless they were custom ordered, all SRT4s came as 5-speed. They aren't bad cars at all, even the 1st gen Neons were great for SCCA racing.
Hey Craig- GREAT videos! I love hearing the back stories about the cars and original owners from the first movie, before Hollywood took street racers and turned them into international commandos mixing it up with nuclear subs in the arctic. Do you any stories about the yellow R33 from the first movie or Dom’s original Charger?
Would've been nice to see the bullet skyline as the hero car and not the evo. That's like going from eating steaks to later getting served bologna sandwiches
I wish you’d spent the same effort keeping the 3rd gen eclipse out of the movie. Not saying the SRT4 was cool but it was way better than an eclipse convertible.
Mario “The SRT4 is just fugly. Looks like a Subaru.” I’m sorry..... *what?* .... Excuse me? ..... *EXCUSE ME!?!?!?* no..... *_excuse you_* how the *FUCK* does a sentence like that even come out of an actual human being’s mouth? go to google images right fucking now and just type in “22b sti” better yet why not just type in “Colin Mcrae 22b” ok? Go type in “Subaru BRZ tS” actually no type in “Subaru BRZ STI” and look at the front end of that motherfucker.... ok now on google images type in _”SRT4 Neon”_ better yet just type in _”Dodge Neon”_ how in the *_FUCK_* is there even remotely a correlation there, visually, physically. There is none. Nothing’s the same. One is a riced out FWD shitbox, while something like a 22b looks/is an AWD fucking rally icon driven by some of the biggest names in rally racing history like Colin McRae, and Richard Burns. Do you know what that’s like? Fucking John Madden has NFL Games named after him.... Colin Mcrae, and Richard Burns have rally games named after them except instead of being a coach they fucking _competed_ and SUBARU is the thing that ties them together. Someone that would DARE compare literally one of if not the biggest names in Motorsport history especially in rally with a fucking dodge neon deserves to have fucking eggs thrown at them in public. I thought when I read that “that has to be a fucking joke” but no one in their right mind would make a joke so fucking ignorant and low, it might almost be worse than making a holocaust joke, because at least a holocaust joke is a form of dark humor ya know, humans try to make light of things that they are afraid of, people derive forms of comedy from fear. This? Is just fucking unacceptable. Subaru is still one of the only ones still in the game, keeping the manual transmission alive, while the Dodge Charger never came in a manual neither did the demon, but you can still get a manual STI, hell you can still get a manual legacy, or outback. You should be ashamed.
I think it's because they had a deal with Mitsubishi to use their cars as the hero cars and since Paul had the Evo then Tyrese didn't really have an option.
Hey Craig, I see my BMW M in the background of a few shots in this one. What a fun time that was filming the movie and meeting Paul. Always thankful for you getting the club the opportunity.
2:36 and now we know where guys of NFSU2 Takes the design of the Skyline just with a yellow stripes, and also has a short history in the game, like the movie
What about the green one in the middle of 1st and 2nd movie? :) Was it true that it was a private Paul’s car? The screen needs the detailed guy like You!!! Best regards
n think he’s talking about the light greenish-blueish colored R34 sitting in the used car lot during the prelude to 2Fast 2Furious which connected the ending scene of the first film to the changes that started off the second film. The R34 that Brian pays cash for at the lot and takes it street racing to earn more cash to then modify it to the fit of the second movie
I'm loving these videos. I remember when these movies came out and I was deep in the muscle car scene (at the time I owned a 72 Chevelle SS) and thought these were so stupid. I ended up buying a heavily modified 92 Eclipse gsx in the mid 2000s and it really got me to appreciate the actual "tuner" cars and not the rice rockets that were seen everywhere. Looking back I'd take any of the cars in these early movies (even the heist civics) over the "stanced" cars that are out now.
I thought it was used in a small clip from Fast 5 when Hobs meets Brian and Dom at a parking lot full of street racers while someone else was putting a tracker under the Gurkha.
Crazy1speed damnn for real? I always thought there was something different about that scene, it’s always stuck out to me. Partly because at that point in my life I was playing Gran Turismo 3 and the Cobra SVT was my favorite car and it was actually in the movie.. and then it got brutally destroyed.
Hey man, please make more of these. They are a pleasure to watch and you're very good at explaining all these events during the filming of these movies. Hope these videos get the attention they deserve. Very interesting stuff. Thank you
“The people running this website couldn’t count their balls twice and come up with the same number” I snorted yogurt straight out my nose with that 😂😂😂
The SRT4 definitely deserved screen time. These days the Skyline R34 isn’t even as intimidating as it used to be. Too much competition today. Golf R, Focus RA, Civic type R, STI, Hellcats etc
I still think the most bullcrap thing about the GT-R in the movie is that Brian just happens to come across it sitting all dust in the back of some random used car lot in the middle of America. Like.... WHAT?!
I'm really liking these videos and thumbs up all that I watch. It's really interesting all these years later we find out tid bits of neat info on our favorite series. The first movie got us really interested in the tuner culture and that still lives in me today. The first F&F and Gone in 60 Seconds are still to this day, two of my favorite movies. Thanks for the uploads.
Fun Fact: Bryan did not introduce us to the Nissan Skyline. It was actually Lance/Leo whatever his name is in the yellow R33 Skyline who keeps a lookout right before the first race in the first Fast and the Furious. He calls out “streets closed pizza boy, find another way home” I just don’t understand why people credit paul walker for skylines.
Because he is the protagonist and that's an r33 not an r34. Your comment is invalid sir. Also you only speak for the FnF fanboys, anyone with a wealth of car knowledge loved gtrs well before the movies. Just look at the r32 back in it's rally days! Unreal I tell you.
@Keynesian Economics 2024 can't get here soon enough in that regard. I wonder if you can import a year or so early and just garage it. I know the demand is going to be idiotic.
Keynesian Economics last year, a completely stock M-Spec Nür (in millennium jade) with 30,000 miles on it was imported over for auction. All I know was that the starting bid was £200,000, and there was a lot of interest in it. Don’t know how much it sold for though.
@Keynesian Economics "Desirability is such a critical factor when determining the value of cars." Yep, that's why I said it's crazy. It's an awesome car, but it's a legend because of these movies. Without them, I'm not sure it would be as popular, especially here in the US.
I can't even imagine Fast & Furious with a Neon instead of the Skyline... This decision would've been so bad the movie franchise would've ended with 2F2F... Thank you for putting a GTR in this movie! You are a LEGEND!
Just a fun tip! The stunt GTR ended up in Spokane WA around 2010. It was at a car tuning place for sale with an $80,000 price tag. Not sure where it went from there.
sort of agree..but Dodge wouldv'e sold more of them, too. tbh, there's enough retards out there smashing them up, smh. Vipers, too. the other great car missing from this film series.
@@tomj4406 There are several cars that are conspicuously absent, but I suppose they could only include so many. IIRC, there was a Viper in the "audition" chase scene in 2F2F, along with the other two modern American cars of the entire franchise (to my recollection), a C5 Corvette and New Edge Mustang that we all hope wasn't a real Terminator in its final shot.
@@nthgth yeah, that's true. I'm not familiar with that 'Stang? & I'd sign off on the 'no SRT4' deal, if i could reshoot part of 'Fast1'. As in..the single spin burnout Dom's SC Hemi Charger does (Huh? Good luck getting a wheelstand out if it!) and the whole quarter mile fiasco of a race between Dom & Brian. Lol..the fizzle that idk wth part that is under the Chargers engine, the shot where Dom extended looks at Brian at 120+ mph in town..bc suicidal and almost does die?! The kooky/blurry, drug induced looking shot where time/space is being warped or something, idk.. And..use a real supercharged 900 hp 426 Hemi charger (probs could've had the mill donated by a big engine shop for a promo/shout out, a stock A-833 4 spd, Dana 60 with superstock leaf springs would fill the drive line bill), doing a real wheelie, not the special fx hydraulic, car liftie thing.
@@tomj4406 I'm not that knowledgeable about drag racing musclecars but it sounds like you sure are. Maybe all that stuff would've cost so much it would've made practical effects less practical than special effects, lol. Thinking about it, I'm pretty sure the Mustang was a convertible, so I think it couldn't have been a Terminator anyway (in real life it was probably a V-6), in the movie it ended up ridiculously crushed by a tractor trailer
@@nthgth They like to demolish cars! lol..fortunately, most..especially in recent yrs, have been 'lost cause' cars that are fixed up to be just presentable enough, before singing their swan song. I srsly doubt the Yenko Camaro in 'Fast2' was a real car they wrecked in the jump to the yacht! But yea, gotta wonder hm $ the special effects wheelie cost compared to getting a free or discounted engine that'd pull the front tires up? Thnx for the compliment..I know a lil bit, I'm no expert. All this typing is making me want to watch 2F2F! Watched movie 1 a couple weeks ago, had been awhile, amazing how young the cast was then, wow. So F9 is out soon? Wonder how old they'll Have Brian Torreto as? & ..hb a cameo of an old, battle damaged, oil burning & rusted SRT4? AHAHAHAA!!
I love my SRT4, and it would have been awesome to see it somewhere in the movie, but you made the best decision for the Hero car! Imagine a SRT4 against a heavily modified 2JZ supra! No way!
Dude, it's not a quarter mile race, also have you seen 1/4 mile supras? I know you can make SRT4's hella fast, but the supra is a whole different monster...
Of course I've seen em, also the time attack SRT4's... Idk man... I just think that the GTR VS SUPRA rivalry is a more suitable option for the movie...
Great video again! I'd love to see a video of Dom's FnF1 Charger. You never hear anything about that car. I'd love to know how it got in the movie. I believe it is now owned by the same guy who also bought your Supra
I'm glad that the Dodge was not used. The Skyline is an iconic car. I loved it before the 2 Fast 2 Furious as I was introduced to it from the Gran Turismo games.
theres this funny thing called exporting! people from all over the world hear a certain car is for sale. contrary to what americans think people in other parts of the world have money and lots of it. some of these peope may want that car and are willing to pay big bucks to not only buy it but bring it home
@@jackass123455 im not American but ya i was just surprised to hear that i kinda thought they would still be owned or some of them at least by pauls family
Craig I believe your Skyline was also used in the NFSU cutscenes for the tutorials! Even the NFSU2 sequel, except instead of a red stripe, it was yellow in the cutscenes
Saying that mr Lieberman, you do realize that bolted on eclipse rs would have been humiliated by the lowly neon srt4. ;) 0-60 5.3 seconds and a 14 second quarter mile stock. Faster then an s2000 stock for stock.
@@Redmerkur 'with a warranty!' not a maxed out, ready to pop apart, tuned to frik mobile. R34's, geez, all the myth makes them seem like auto gods or something. they go 060 in 4.6 for hm $$$? Damm. Viper smokes 'em bad. btw, you can tune a Viper, ..if you can handle up to or north of 1,000 hp. you all commenting on this thread against Dodge ain't got the cojones!
kammann1980 I’m well aware. It wasn’t about performance stats as much as it was about desirability. SRT4s never matched the popularity of GTRs, Integras and cars like the Eclipse. Look at the sales numbers of these cars.
I'll give ya that mr Lieberman, the srt4s belong in a small niche of American tuner class. Just saying for the 20-21k price they were nasty quick. I currently own a pretty sharp low mileage 04
@@craiglieberman I'm pretty sure that would change if Paul Walker had raced in an SRT4.....or the 3000GT (actually it was a Stealth) he had in the backstory for the 2nd movie. I have 3 3S cars right now, but if that had been a hero car....I wouldnt be able to do anything but continue wishing I had one. If you had used, say....a 98 Geo Metro or something....fine....no one wouldve watched the movie.
Some part of the awesomeness is the sound and look which is totally separate from the quarter mile and lap times - and for me, more important. Overall feel of having and driving it is what it's about.
Love theses vids you do man.Lord knows you don’t have to make them and although the movies had their moments and weren’t perfect especially now.They were awesome and a part of my childhood like so many others and it’s so nice to finally get to hear the actual gearhead behind the scenes facts from those movies.Its so much fun and I had no idea how much of an enthusiast you were and that you even had your personal cars in the movies.Keep it up man great stuff.
If he drove an SRT4 I don't think the franchise would have made it past the 2 fast 2 Furious. Also am. I the only one who noticed this? In 2 Fast 2 Furious you can see the green screen twice right after the police officer shoots the ESD that shuts down the skyline
Brian drives by a green-ish building that's shown in the shot before the cop shoots the Skyline with the esd. It did look like a green screen, but they weren't that careless
This stuff is absolutely amazing. Makes me want to go back and buy all the F&F movies and your book might be the first I’ve bought in a while... keep me coming! Cheers!
Craig without your expertise the original and the best fast and furious would not have been as great as it was. Brings back so many childhood memories and my love of the original mk4 supra and gtr. Thanks for keeping it real and giving me one of the best childhood memories ! As a kid I even made a little book with print outs of all the hero cars and specifications of each car. I had a look other day and you had a mention :-) These videos your doing are absolutely awesome and very interesting. Thanks again for taking time to do this.
Damn you guys got a lightning yellow gtr? That has to be one of the most uncommon colors. My first xmods RC car was a lightning yellow gtr, and I still have it.
I think it is. Last time I checked GTR Registry, Only 68 Lightning Yellow GTRs were made. Making them 0.59% of all R34s. But people really hate the color yellow on cars lol. So its the kinda color on a car people don’t really care about to care about.
Also before you think I’m a yellow car hater, I love the color yellow. A Sonic Yellow Bugeye WRX sedan was my dream car in highschool, but I grew up and became an adult so got an evo instead 🙃. Jk still would love to own a sonic yellow WRX 😅.
Craig, I am amazed. You not only influenced a movie, you also influenced several generations of car enthusiasts with your purchase of the GTR. I remember playing Gran Turismo, then seeing the GTR in F&F2. What other cars, if any, would you have considered before choosing the GTR? My personal choice was the IS300. Loved them when I first saw picture online back in 2000. I remember being in typing classes and cruising car forums like Honda-Acura.net and later Honda-Tech.com after HA.net lost their subscribers to HT.com.
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Ah yes, the early 2000's, where you modified everything to make your car faster, then added 500lb of audio equipment.
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That’s true except for the part where you made the car fast.
2000s weren't about fast, it was about looking and sounding cool
Some cars were fast. Very few. Most were just loud. All that noise, and going nowhere. Once there were cars sounding like a weed eater, I was done. Sounds like such shit. Gimme a mustang with an xpipe and flowmasters all day.
Jason Curtis how original a mustang
“ 10 speed gear box “
Thank you for acknowledging it.
What time on the video?
@Mario They might've had modified transmissions, but you don't see them in the movies - it's been explained in this video that they use a body shell to simulate interior shots.
@@ToyotaSPRINTERTRUENO1986kouki Yea they modified them with 2 speed rearends & 19 speeds out of a Peterbilt Trucks. Didn't you see the Jake brakes too?!!? 😂 🤘🤪
@@ToyotaSPRINTERTRUENO1986kouki I kidd I kidd, just joshing ya!! 😘😁
Can't believe I read this comment just at 7:20
imagine paying $85k for a SRT-4 due to the Fast & Furious tax 😂😂😂
I'm glas that didn't happen just because I like Neons.
that would have actually been hilarious
Never gonna happen.
Breaking Bad made the Pontiac Aztek infamously popular again, but you don’t see people rushing to buy that clunker.
@@TEDdotcom Neon is actually a decent car tho.
@Whiterun Guard: yes they’re decent cars, much better than the ill fated Dart, but there’s never going to be a big demand for it.
R.I.P Paul and John Singleton.
That wouldve made the SRT 4 a ricer boy's wet dream 😂
Lmao now the GTR is worth over 80 grand for a 99-02
I knew that GTR was special even before I got into cars. 👌🏻
SyntheticSRT river boys xD (I’m guessing auto correct)
@@connoisseuroftigolbitts because Americans are willing to pay high ass prices. Stupid shit
Kevin M I don’t think so ,neon a piece of shit
Tell us when he restores it back to it's movie condition
@@AwayV2 i have seen the prelude.....,🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄bro just now the car is black.....eith different wheels but still same bodykit and wing . Its new owner will restore it back to its movie condition... Craig said it....listen more carefully
We should do body kits again and ditch stancing. That’s a magnificent car and I really like your preferred paint job.
Would love to see body kits again.
@@user-fo1ow1jq3b whats so bad about slamming your car and adding ridiculous camber?
@@kodakreeeam9971 yea, like re-amemiya for rx-7, and bn sport for silvia.
n Still better than putting all that useless audio equipment
@@kodakreeeam9971 stance is good unless you use it for the right reasons or you do it just right,but honestly I don't care
Why do you always apologize for bad quality, and then there's no bad quality footage in the video?
coz he works in hollywood my dude
Because some young'uns make it seem as if 480p footage is unwatchable. I dont mind it at all
Imagine a kid that is, let's say 15 today that has been watching almost at most in his/her life hd (1080p, 4k) videos or games and we show him/her a early 2000 and what was supposed to be hd. It might not seem a big difference to us considering that we've used to see movies at low "resolution" but to them it is.
Hes a movie guy hes used to top end quality
CRAPO2011 I’m fifteen and think it’s hilarious how much they complain about that stuff. Truly pathetic.
Honestly i like grainy videos and pics. They have that authentic and historical feel. High def is not the end all and be all.
3:15-Notice the old school Nokia phone with matching color as the car. I used to love my old Nokia and would play that game snake all the time. Anyone else remember that game?
Love the channel, Craig! You should make a video about how the Fast House was chosen.
Being in charge of vehicles, he had little to do with location scouting.
@Umar IFL Umar
The millions of fans who literally fly to CA just to take pics in front of the house and the people who drive their cars and take pics in front of it everyday. It's as much a part of the franchise as the cars.
@Umar IFL Umar
They've done interviews and whole documentaries on the house and its previous owners.
Auto Young people don’t choose vacations just for the house they are already in the area so they take a picture
@@mrhoa1237
Bullshit. I know plenty of people and have seen plenty of people make that trip SPECIFICALLY to go see that house and all of the other filming locations from the movie. Anything else is an afterthought. YOU may not go but don't you say what other people don't do or haven't done...
This video is outstanding, Craig. Hearing the story come directly from you is icing on the cake. This particular scene from 2F2F inspired so many of us to get into the tuner car scene. I now own a MKIV Supra turbo and its all because of the awe inspiring cars you designed for these films. Thank you!
Ohhhhh I miss my 'ol SRT4, lol. I wonder what would have happened to the price of those things if that was the hero car of that movie? Probably not a lot would have changed, but I'm really curious if they'd be more sought after. They're not exactly super common.
Imagine a parallel universe where all the GTR fanboys are SRT4 Fanboys...
🤣🤣🤣
lol
Oh god no
tHe sRT 4 iS a tRaCk MoNSter gReAteSt oF aLl tIMe
This makes my head hurt so bad haha
The thing is, when I hear the words "booty-ass car"... even if we weren't talking about this movie of which this car is a part of... the FIRST thing that comes to mind is that purple convertible Eclipse.
First thing that comes to my mind is that green Hulk Volkswagen in tokyo drift. One of the worst cars in the movie.
Yeah that eclipse was horrible but the car was picked out by universal during a product placement deal and the graphics were picked out by Tyrese
This video made me feel broke “we needed to buy 4 more gtrs”
Its the production company that has a 76 million dollar budget for the movie buying these not Joe Smoe... lol
But still back then the R34 was still a fairly new car. So most wouldn't of depreciated as much.
@@TheHiyy And that's called a tight budget in Hollywood standards.
Back then there was no way of knowing how collectible and expensive R34’s were going to become.
6:40
Oh man- those glowing brake rotors looked fantastic.
It's too bad it wasn't considered an integral part of the story....I think it would've looked great on the screen.
I've seen your comment and my video was at 6:42
That would have made more sense. No way a R34 GT-R would have been sitting in the back of some used car lot in America.
Haukur Thor Smárason No one even knew they existed until this movie came out
@@arvinxiong5607 well that's just not true. Plenty of people knew about them. I saw it first in 1998 and fell in love with it.
@@arvinxiong5607 WTF?
OJ either he made i typo or saw a concept for it and saw potential in it.
Man i had no idea you made videos craig, just found your channel. These are really cool to watch, enjoying them a ton!
Just curious was the blue paint/orange livery inspiration for the S15 in Tokyo Drift?
I know the answer to this. Fuck I heard it in a Donut Media video I think... if I remember I’ll come back.
Mona lis15
No.
Paint job looks so familiar though, I think it was featured in Need for Speed Underground during the tutorial for drag racing
Shawn Blindauer u right it was in the Cut scenes also
*Given that the speedometer is in km/h and not mph i’m suprised you even mentioned that the car wasn’t doing 160mph.*
Cinemasins can't read, lol
Most people have always assumed it was 160mph. At least from my experience
@@user-fo1ow1jq3bhe maybe recalibrated the speedometer to mph. But that seems like a stretch.
Why you gotta use bold?? Ain't nobody else doin that...especially for a dumb opinion. Go sit in the corner and have a time-out for a little bit.
@@rickfeith6372 So you're one of those people and you're offended? lol
Thank you for doing the service to these cars.
Because the nature of tuning culture I feel that these cars in particular especially with all of the Bucks and doubles needed, and the constant replicas might be even more necessary to set the facts straight more than say the Mad Max Interceptor or the General Lee...
And this is how car culture could have taken a very different path... A rough one...
Although the Neon SRT-4 is a hell lot of car.
So... how is that "a rough one"
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I'm loving these myth buster type videos. Keep 'em coming!
who else kept their F&F era tuner car? my mr2 has been in the garage since 07. i'll never sell it.
No car payment is nice eh
Srt4s are amazing cars and price for performance was insane
Since universal had the deal with Dodge, u guys still should of used the SRT4. One of the most underrated cars.
Honestly and why do people hate them so much?
@@zerotyron2142
There American. And don't have Awd.
The SRT4 was the fastest fwd compact
Of that era. Yet ppl still make fun of it..
@@WindyCity1992 Dodge actually claimed that the SRT4 was the fastest car in the world for under $20,000 from 2003, to 2005. Apparently, for the money, there was nothing on the road that was faster at that time.
@@Mortimusmoose
Lol sounds like the Hellcat
They had the reliability, and build quality of a Nike shoe made by a hungry child laborer after a 72-hour shift at 3 a.m in the morning...
Obviously the GTR is a better choice than the Neon. But as someone who used to track a Neon at the time, I wouldn't have minded seeing an SRT-4 in place of the Evo.
Why? An evo is a better car in every way though.
@@ce9aftw713 I don't know about "In every way", from what I can tell (not that I've driven either but I assume most uf us haven't) the only thing the Evo has over the SRT4 is that the Evo is AWD. The SRT4 easily could have kept up with the Eclipse the Evo co-starred with.
Both cars shared their non turbo 2.0L engines. The SRT4 was definitely not a poseur chassis wise, and tore ass better than anything FWD had a right to - is its turbo engine related to the 4G63 at all?
@@nthgth Its basically more related to the 2.4L in a Stratus, etc. than the 4G63. You can actually build a Stratus engine up to the equivalent of the SRT4 engine. DCR (Darrell Cox Racing) has actually taken the SRT4 engine over 1,200whp, and theyll sell you all the parts to do so. Engine wise, it's just as buildable as the 4G63, but still remains FWD....and unless they were custom ordered, all SRT4s came as 5-speed. They aren't bad cars at all, even the 1st gen Neons were great for SCCA racing.
Someone who tracked an Neon SRT-4 wouldn't lol
Hey Craig- GREAT videos! I love hearing the back stories about the cars and original owners from the first movie, before Hollywood took street racers and turned them into international commandos mixing it up with nuclear subs in the arctic. Do you any stories about the yellow R33 from the first movie or Dom’s original Charger?
Would've been nice to see the bullet skyline as the hero car and not the evo. That's like going from eating steaks to later getting served bologna sandwiches
I wish you’d spent the same effort keeping the 3rd gen eclipse out of the movie. Not saying the SRT4 was cool but it was way better than an eclipse convertible.
there's room for both in the films. & ok..no SRT4 for Paul..so a flat out ban? lol retards.
Mario “The SRT4 is just fugly. Looks like a Subaru.” I’m sorry..... *what?* .... Excuse me? ..... *EXCUSE ME!?!?!?* no..... *_excuse you_* how the *FUCK* does a sentence like that even come out of an actual human being’s mouth? go to google images right fucking now and just type in “22b sti” better yet why not just type in “Colin Mcrae 22b” ok? Go type in “Subaru BRZ tS” actually no type in “Subaru BRZ STI” and look at the front end of that motherfucker.... ok now on google images type in _”SRT4 Neon”_ better yet just type in _”Dodge Neon”_ how in the *_FUCK_* is there even remotely a correlation there, visually, physically. There is none. Nothing’s the same. One is a riced out FWD shitbox, while something like a 22b looks/is an AWD fucking rally icon driven by some of the biggest names in rally racing history like Colin McRae, and Richard Burns. Do you know what that’s like? Fucking John Madden has NFL Games named after him.... Colin Mcrae, and Richard Burns have rally games named after them except instead of being a coach they fucking _competed_ and SUBARU is the thing that ties them together. Someone that would DARE compare literally one of if not the biggest names in Motorsport history especially in rally with a fucking dodge neon deserves to have fucking eggs thrown at them in public. I thought when I read that “that has to be a fucking joke” but no one in their right mind would make a joke so fucking ignorant and low, it might almost be worse than making a holocaust joke, because at least a holocaust joke is a form of dark humor ya know, humans try to make light of things that they are afraid of, people derive forms of comedy from fear. This? Is just fucking unacceptable. Subaru is still one of the only ones still in the game, keeping the manual transmission alive, while the Dodge Charger never came in a manual neither did the demon, but you can still get a manual STI, hell you can still get a manual legacy, or outback. You should be ashamed.
I hate convertible ecplise and all eclipse
Minh Luu He's right ya know.
I think it's because they had a deal with Mitsubishi to use their cars as the hero cars and since Paul had the Evo then Tyrese didn't really have an option.
Hey Craig, I see my BMW M in the background of a few shots in this one. What a fun time that was filming the movie and meeting Paul. Always thankful for you getting the club the opportunity.
do u have clearer images of the bmw it looks cool af
The neon is a beast if you build it.
2:36 and now we know where guys of NFSU2 Takes the design of the Skyline just with a yellow stripes, and also has a short history in the game, like the movie
Sucks that Amazing Car was the Player's Car in NFS: U1, until Caleb wrecked it with his Hummer.
What about the green one in the middle of 1st and 2nd movie? :)
Was it true that it was a private Paul’s car?
The screen needs the detailed guy like You!!!
Best regards
The eclipse?
n think he’s talking about the light greenish-blueish colored R34 sitting in the used car lot during the prelude to 2Fast 2Furious which connected the ending scene of the first film to the changes that started off the second film. The R34 that Brian pays cash for at the lot and takes it street racing to earn more cash to then modify it to the fit of the second movie
Ah I see. I can't say I've seen the prelude in all honesty
n you should watch it. It’s on TH-cam
It was one of the Stunt cars. Craig has said a few times he’s not exactly sure which one
love cars that look simple and clean. one color, window tint, lowered & set of nice wheels.
What happened to the grey market GT-Rs after filming? 🤔
@Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II Nur R34 '02 Source?
I'm loving these videos. I remember when these movies came out and I was deep in the muscle car scene (at the time I owned a 72 Chevelle SS) and thought these were so stupid. I ended up buying a heavily modified 92 Eclipse gsx in the mid 2000s and it really got me to appreciate the actual "tuner" cars and not the rice rockets that were seen everywhere. Looking back I'd take any of the cars in these early movies (even the heist civics) over the "stanced" cars that are out now.
I think what you meant to say that the blue gt-r was from Fast & Furious (the fourth movie)
yes i think, it's just a little mistake he doesn't mean it.
I thought it was used in a small clip from Fast 5 when Hobs meets Brian and Dom at a parking lot full of street racers while someone else was putting a tracker under the Gurkha.
@@Vin80_ I think that was the Porsche that Dom won for Brian before Hobbs met Dom and Brian at the street race.
Nah the Porsche was with the Charger, not the Skyline.
R.I.P Paul Walker 🙏🏻 😇 see you on the track in the sky brother.
Very nice info and well presented mate. I'd be happy to hear more 8)
Please make a video about the crash between the Mustang Saleen and the Corvette.
It's true that it wasn''t scripted?
I'm pretty sure I heard the same from the "making of" section from Fast2.
Unscripted
Always wondered about that. Looked real
It was unscripted so they just added it in the movie because it was so real
Crazy1speed damnn for real? I always thought there was something different about that scene, it’s always stuck out to me. Partly because at that point in my life I was playing Gran Turismo 3 and the Cobra SVT was my favorite car and it was actually in the movie.. and then it got brutally destroyed.
Hey man, please make more of these. They are a pleasure to watch and you're very good at explaining all these events during the filming of these movies.
Hope these videos get the attention they deserve. Very interesting stuff. Thank you
HugPugs I am. About one per week.
“The people running this website couldn’t count their balls twice and come up with the same number” I snorted yogurt straight out my nose with that 😂😂😂
I totally had a picture of your dark blue GT-R on a binder I used in high school before the movie was made! I wanted that car so bad.
For everything the SRT4 was and did, it still deserved screen time- regardless if it was a "neon" or not.
Balto D facts yo I agree with that it’s one of the first affordable srt car but still it’s nothing like a GTR
The SRT4 definitely deserved screen time. These days the Skyline R34 isn’t even as intimidating as it used to be. Too much competition today. Golf R, Focus RA, Civic type R, STI, Hellcats etc
@@jasontodd9302 considering it's over 20 years old now it's still impressive. Like how the McLaren f1 is amongst super cars
n it’s impressive. Just not intimidating like it use to be.
@@eldios3666 stage 3 SRT4, same 0-60. for hm less $?
Keep the videos coming Craig! These videos are the best content on youtube right now.
"couldn't count their balls twice and come up with the same number" - oh, I'm stealing that!!
The bridge scene in NFS U1 and from the movie. Always a winner to me. Waiting for it to happen :3
Sean Morris is legit. He has been active in the Skyline community since the inception of MotoRex.
I still think the most bullcrap thing about the GT-R in the movie is that Brian just happens to come across it sitting all dust in the back of some random used car lot in the middle of America.
Like.... WHAT?!
There’s been way crazier cars found in the states
It would never be sitting on a random lot very illeagle for a normal dealer to sell a 34 still even
Yup..shudda been a Viper. Far more bang for the buck and actually..not as rare as a 3 horned, albino frikkin unicorn.
@@relate97 Except not really, and certainly not cars not federally legal unless exempt under an exception like the 25 year rule.
The_Doctors_Tardis It’s not a documentary, dude. And you think that’s more bull crap than a Nitrous powered ejection seat????
I want to know if you sold all the gtr's or scraped one or two and if some got scraped , did you sell the rb's ??????
5:30 ayee that’s me! I think with GTR prices nowadays it would be worth the conversion
Found your channel a few days ago. I was so surprised to see your project mentioned in here. You're getting famous!
While the sound of the Skyline was edited in post, you can get the same noise from real ones running RB25s and 26s.
I'm really liking these videos and thumbs up all that I watch. It's really interesting all these years later we find out tid bits of neat info on our favorite series. The first movie got us really interested in the tuner culture and that still lives in me today. The first F&F and Gone in 60 Seconds are still to this day, two of my favorite movies. Thanks for the uploads.
Fun Fact: Bryan did not introduce us to the Nissan Skyline.
It was actually Lance/Leo whatever his name is in the yellow R33 Skyline who keeps a lookout right before the first race in the first Fast and the Furious. He calls out “streets closed pizza boy, find another way home”
I just don’t understand why people credit paul walker for skylines.
Because he is the protagonist and that's an r33 not an r34. Your comment is invalid sir. Also you only speak for the FnF fanboys, anyone with a wealth of car knowledge loved gtrs well before the movies. Just look at the r32 back in it's rally days! Unreal I tell you.
@@user-fo1ow1jq3b r32 is the real godzilla
Enjoy these videos so much now and as a teen. It introduced me to the tuner culture and now and will be forever a die hard car guy.
A mllion for a Skyline, god you guys are getting hosed over there
Not just because it's a Skyline... It was Paul's car in Fast & Furious. A regular R34 will probably cost $80k, which is still crazy.
@Keynesian Economics 2024 can't get here soon enough in that regard. I wonder if you can import a year or so early and just garage it. I know the demand is going to be idiotic.
Keynesian Economics last year, a completely stock M-Spec Nür (in millennium jade) with 30,000 miles on it was imported over for auction. All I know was that the starting bid was £200,000, and there was a lot of interest in it.
Don’t know how much it sold for though.
Is it safe to say it's mainly the rarity, not the F&F franchise, that explains these high values? (And being in good condition, etc)
@Keynesian Economics "Desirability is such a critical factor when determining the value of cars." Yep, that's why I said it's crazy. It's an awesome car, but it's a legend because of these movies. Without them, I'm not sure it would be as popular, especially here in the US.
I can't even imagine Fast & Furious with a Neon instead of the Skyline... This decision would've been so bad the movie franchise would've ended with 2F2F... Thank you for putting a GTR in this movie! You are a LEGEND!
Paul Walker actually drove that blue Skyline in the 4th movie, not Fast Five
Great video. Thank you person for showing us what u were apart of sir. All car lovers will appreciate this.
I kind of wish it was a SRT4. Because then the skyline wouldn’t be nearly as popular/expensive as it is now.
Yeah for real I might actually be able to think about affording one then. Now I can't even think it I can barely dream it lol.
Christian but then you would of never wanted it
What ? It still wouldve been realllllly popular.
Christian But then Neons would be expensive and those were way more affordable in the first place.
@@communistpootisbirb You completely missed the point...
Just a fun tip! The stunt GTR ended up in Spokane WA around 2010. It was at a car tuning place for sale with an $80,000 price tag. Not sure where it went from there.
>neons barely avoided the FnF tax
Thank god
sort of agree..but Dodge wouldv'e sold more of them, too. tbh, there's enough retards out there smashing them up, smh. Vipers, too. the other great car missing from this film series.
@@tomj4406 There are several cars that are conspicuously absent, but I suppose they could only include so many.
IIRC, there was a Viper in the "audition" chase scene in 2F2F, along with the other two modern American cars of the entire franchise (to my recollection), a C5 Corvette and New Edge Mustang that we all hope wasn't a real Terminator in its final shot.
@@nthgth yeah, that's true. I'm not familiar with that 'Stang? & I'd sign off on the 'no SRT4' deal, if i could reshoot part of 'Fast1'. As in..the single spin burnout Dom's SC Hemi Charger does (Huh? Good luck getting a wheelstand out if it!) and the whole quarter mile fiasco of a race between Dom & Brian. Lol..the fizzle that idk wth part that is under the Chargers engine, the shot where Dom extended looks at Brian at 120+ mph in town..bc suicidal and almost does die?! The kooky/blurry, drug induced looking shot where time/space is being warped or something, idk.. And..use a real supercharged 900 hp 426 Hemi charger (probs could've had the mill donated by a big engine shop for a promo/shout out, a stock A-833 4 spd, Dana 60 with superstock leaf springs would fill the drive line bill), doing a real wheelie, not the special fx hydraulic, car liftie thing.
@@tomj4406 I'm not that knowledgeable about drag racing musclecars but it sounds like you sure are. Maybe all that stuff would've cost so much it would've made practical effects less practical than special effects, lol.
Thinking about it, I'm pretty sure the Mustang was a convertible, so I think it couldn't have been a Terminator anyway (in real life it was probably a V-6), in the movie it ended up ridiculously crushed by a tractor trailer
@@nthgth They like to demolish cars! lol..fortunately, most..especially in recent yrs, have been 'lost cause' cars that are fixed up to be just presentable enough, before singing their swan song. I srsly doubt the Yenko Camaro in 'Fast2' was a real car they wrecked in the jump to the yacht! But yea, gotta wonder hm $ the special effects wheelie cost compared to getting a free or discounted engine that'd pull the front tires up? Thnx for the compliment..I know a lil bit, I'm no expert. All this typing is making me want to watch 2F2F! Watched movie 1 a couple weeks ago, had been awhile, amazing how young the cast was then, wow. So F9 is out soon? Wonder how old they'll Have Brian Torreto as? & ..hb a cameo of an old, battle damaged, oil burning & rusted SRT4? AHAHAHAA!!
The stunt jump car was sold to transworks in spokane which is no longer. Figured id add that
GTR is clearly beyond clearly a better car.... But srt4 is bad ass
Keep them coming my guy! Love behind the scenes info
I love my SRT4, and it would have been awesome to see it somewhere in the movie, but you made the best decision for the Hero car! Imagine a SRT4 against a heavily modified 2JZ supra! No way!
Idk man.....the SRT 4 weighs a lot less than a Supra. And the engine could make a shit ton of power to haul ass
Dude, it's not a quarter mile race, also have you seen 1/4 mile supras? I know you can make SRT4's hella fast, but the supra is a whole different monster...
2jz will crush everything! RB will have oil pump failure like they are renowned for and by parked up just after xmas tree😂😂
@@norbertorodriguez1805 have you seen 1/4 mile SRT 4? These cars are known to slay
Of course I've seen em, also the time attack SRT4's... Idk man... I just think that the GTR VS SUPRA rivalry is a more suitable option for the movie...
Keep making these awesome in depth videos! I’ve never thought I’d get such a close up look at the production side
Great video again! I'd love to see a video of Dom's FnF1 Charger. You never hear anything about that car. I'd love to know how it got in the movie. I believe it is now owned by the same guy who also bought your Supra
What about Sean's Monte Carlo?
@@alexbenjaminlubbers That car doesn't have a special part in the movie like the Charger does
@@alexbenjaminlubbers Oh I loved that Monte Carlo :D
@@CanadaBud23
Was sad to see that monster die
Love all these. Kept it up my dude. Thanks for all the dedicated time
Knowing that so many GTRs got busted up makes me cry😭
Kevin Santos ikr
I'm glad that the Dodge was not used. The Skyline is an iconic car. I loved it before the 2 Fast 2 Furious as I was introduced to it from the Gran Turismo games.
Yup, that's where I learned more about them at the time. Also learned that my Supra would always destroy them too lol.
How did Paul's cars end up in Germany?
His private BMW 2002 Touring ended up here too....
wait they are?
theres this funny thing called exporting! people from all over the world hear a certain car is for sale. contrary to what americans think people in other parts of the world have money and lots of it. some of these peope may want that car and are willing to pay big bucks to not only buy it but bring it home
@@jackass123455 im not American but ya i was just surprised to hear that i kinda thought they would still be owned or some of them at least by pauls family
Most people who buy them are oversea....
@@memphischalmers1644 paul's family lol universal is interested in the moolah
Craig I believe your Skyline was also used in the NFSU cutscenes for the tutorials! Even the NFSU2 sequel, except instead of a red stripe, it was yellow in the cutscenes
I love the videos, Craig! Is it posible that your car was also used in the NFS Underground tutorials?
From the window to the wall.
The blue version with mods definitely remind me of the R34 from Underground 2.
I was hoping someone would bring that up. It really does look similar
RIP John Singleton. Super enjoyable story to listen to.
Saying that mr Lieberman, you do realize that bolted on eclipse rs would have been humiliated by the lowly neon srt4. ;) 0-60 5.3 seconds and a 14 second quarter mile stock. Faster then an s2000 stock for stock.
13.4 is the fastest recorded time for a bone stock srt4 with stage 3 cars going into low 11's with a warranty
@@Redmerkur 'with a warranty!' not a maxed out, ready to pop apart, tuned to frik mobile. R34's, geez, all the myth makes them seem like auto gods or something. they go 060 in 4.6 for hm $$$? Damm. Viper smokes 'em bad. btw, you can tune a Viper, ..if you can handle up to or north of 1,000 hp. you all commenting on this thread against Dodge ain't got the cojones!
kammann1980 I’m well aware. It wasn’t about performance stats as much as it was about desirability. SRT4s never matched the popularity of GTRs, Integras and cars like the Eclipse. Look at the sales numbers of these cars.
I'll give ya that mr Lieberman, the srt4s belong in a small niche of American tuner class. Just saying for the 20-21k price they were nasty quick. I currently own a pretty sharp low mileage 04
@@craiglieberman I'm pretty sure that would change if Paul Walker had raced in an SRT4.....or the 3000GT (actually it was a Stealth) he had in the backstory for the 2nd movie. I have 3 3S cars right now, but if that had been a hero car....I wouldnt be able to do anything but continue wishing I had one. If you had used, say....a 98 Geo Metro or something....fine....no one wouldve watched the movie.
Fantastic video. Thanks for releasing all of this Craig
I guess I would've been a muscle guy,because that car is when all started for me
I'm a Muscle girl, the Yenko kicked the R34 down from #1 for me
Some part of the awesomeness is the sound and look which is totally separate from the quarter mile and lap times - and for me, more important. Overall feel of having and driving it is what it's about.
Love theses vids you do man.Lord knows you don’t have to make them and although the movies had their moments and weren’t perfect especially now.They were awesome and a part of my childhood like so many others and it’s so nice to finally get to hear the actual gearhead behind the scenes facts from those movies.Its so much fun and I had no idea how much of an enthusiast you were and that you even had your personal cars in the movies.Keep it up man great stuff.
I saw that AEBS decal on the valve cover 🙌🏻
Thank you Mr. Lieberman for making this video.
If he drove an SRT4 I don't think the franchise would have made it past the 2 fast 2 Furious. Also am. I the only one who noticed this? In 2 Fast 2 Furious you can see the green screen twice right after the police officer shoots the ESD that shuts down the skyline
Brian drives by a green-ish building that's shown in the shot before the cop shoots the Skyline with the esd. It did look like a green screen, but they weren't that careless
This stuff is absolutely amazing. Makes me want to go back and buy all the F&F movies and your book might be the first I’ve bought in a while... keep me coming! Cheers!
Hey Craig the blue R34 was actually from fast and furious(4) so that was just a mistake that I pointed out
This is awesome man! Keep the channel going. Love hearing behind the scenes stuff.
The srt should be used instead of the purple eclipse
Yeah that thing was shit
that stock GT-R shift knob looks like the one that came stock in my 2002 6 speed Maxima
Am srt4 is actually the fastest I've ever been in a street car on a road. 150 when they first came out
Jared lol 160 plus with a $1 spring mod to hold back the wastegate a little more
@@AncientFlorida I've been faster at a track and on a bike but I'll never forget that srt4 I 9 or 10 years old
Craig without your expertise the original and the best fast and furious would not have been as great as it was.
Brings back so many childhood memories and my love of the original mk4 supra and gtr. Thanks for keeping it real and giving me one of the best childhood memories !
As a kid I even made a little book with print outs of all the hero cars and specifications of each car. I had a look other day and you had a mention :-)
These videos your doing are absolutely awesome and very interesting. Thanks again for taking time to do this.
just came from the | Poor Man's GTR [EP3] vid and got confused cause the clips showing the work it takes to make a GTR what it is i had just watched.
HighOctaneMeme 😅
Loving this these videos Craig, thanks for posting them!
Damn you guys got a lightning yellow gtr? That has to be one of the most uncommon colors. My first xmods RC car was a lightning yellow gtr, and I still have it.
I think it is. Last time I checked GTR Registry, Only 68 Lightning Yellow GTRs were made. Making them 0.59% of all R34s. But people really hate the color yellow on cars lol. So its the kinda color on a car people don’t really care about to care about.
Also before you think I’m a yellow car hater, I love the color yellow. A Sonic Yellow Bugeye WRX sedan was my dream car in highschool, but I grew up and became an adult so got an evo instead 🙃. Jk still would love to own a sonic yellow WRX 😅.
Love all of this info your giving, thanks for taking your time to do it all!
11:08 it is fast and furious 4 not fast 5
People make mistakes
Craig, I am amazed. You not only influenced a movie, you also influenced several generations of car enthusiasts with your purchase of the GTR. I remember playing Gran Turismo, then seeing the GTR in F&F2. What other cars, if any, would you have considered before choosing the GTR?
My personal choice was the IS300. Loved them when I first saw picture online back in 2000. I remember being in typing classes and cruising car forums like Honda-Acura.net and later Honda-Tech.com after HA.net lost their subscribers to HT.com.
What an interesting turn of events if a neon “today” was worth as much as a skyline today😂
kendal Would. Never. Happen.
Thank you for clearing the last bit up because I’ve seen articles saying his gtr from 2f2f was for sale.
it is true that sounds were heavily edited BUT ALMOST EXACTLY IF NOT EXACTLY THE SAME SOUND CAN BE ACHIEVED JUST REMEMBER! ( SINGLE TURBO AND TUBULAR MANIFOLD )! simple HKS GO TO!
StaakeM Yup. You can get pretty close.
THANKS SO MUCH FOT CONVINCING THEM TO USE A SKYLINE