You can’t compare this to a Mercedes. For cost of the overland i would say it’s pretty amazing. Better than just “good”. Shifting is smooth and the sound system was awesome. I like some of your points but it just sounds like you are being nit picky about some items. I got the 5.7L and have no regrets.
I’ve had my Overland for almost a year now and I love it. The tech stuff you mention is programmable, so you can rearrange apps to where you want them. My surround camera is at the very top of the Home Screen next to the notifications bell. The strength of the lane correction is adjustable, as is the distance between you and the car in front of you for cruise control. For the price, this is the best option on the market.
I think your last comment hit the nail on the head with this vehicle: they don't want to make it SO good buyers avoid test driving the Wagoneer. Also, I like to see at least 1 automotive journalist giving Jeep and Dodge the due credit for successfully selling cars originally designed decades ago. I'm sure they're breaking records but nobody talks about 'em for some reason. Anyway. Thanks for the honest review dude 👍🏾
Your review was spot on. I test drove one this week and the engine was the biggest disappointment. Gutless and unrefined, it was pretty much a deal killer. The interior is very nice, but the responsiveness of the infotainment screen is slow. Sad, because I really want to like this SUV. Nice review.
I love this thing with the same passion I had when the refreshed version of the previous gen came out, but I am concerned about reliability on this one even more. I read somewhere (can't remember where) that higher-ups in Stellantis forced Jeep to release the "L" version before the standard version, when in reality the standard version was supposed to be revealed first. Do you think that "rushing" this version of the GC to the market might explain some of the refinement issues you had with this tester? I'm due for a new vehicle in the next few years, and this is near the top of my list, but reliability concerns me, especially coming from a 2009 Lexus RX-350 that has not have any major mechanical problems, even at 170k miles.
I own the Overland GCL. Traded a tricked out Sahara towards it. I love it. Shifts super smooth, plenty of power in the 6 cylinder. Can't really say how quiet it is because the McIntosh audio system is epic and it's summer, the ac is blasting. Uconnect doesn't lag. Trash review. Have a nice day.
I owned a house years ago that came with about $50,000 worth of McIntosh and other stuff and honestly never listened to it. Sold it with it all too and never missed it. I can't see myself willingly going to the store and shelling out that money for that stuff.
@@stevehammes Had those tall planar speakers, Crestron system the whole nine yards, even a huge disco floor with disco ball. I personally don't think you are missing anything. The only thing you need in life is an OLED TV. LOL
Hello there, I currently have a 2020 GC Limited. I was thinking of trading it in for a GCL Summit. But now after seeing your review I really appreciate your honesty. MOST if not all reviews I have seen from GCL is all "positive" but is it really?? I appreciate your honesty. I'm now looking more towards the palisade calligraphy.
I’ve driven one and the steering assist did not jerk the wheel at all and was very subtle. I have one on order. Although Jeep is not allowing the off-road packages to be added at this time. Not sure why
I put 500 highway miles on this one and I couldn’t believe how jerky the steering assist was; crazy bad and I didn’t have it on some ultra-aggressive setting either. As for the off-road group I understand it’s currently limited availability due to supplier issues.
@@stevehammes yeah the dealer wouldn’t tell me why but I just wanted the upgraded limited slip axle. I don’t plan on taking this 64k Jeep into crazy trails so I’ll be good to go. Was your model an early release for testing and review? Or did you get it from a dealer as a private person ? The two that I drove up and down the highway had very subtle steering assist on the lanes. If you have the display on for the lanes it shows it turning yellow as you get closer to the line. Not once did the wheel jerk at all.
Hi Steve, I remember your review of the '05 Grand Cherokee, which you said was your choice for the SUV of the year. I still drive my '07 and love its mixture of refinement and ruggedness. I know it's probably the right move for Jeep but it's nevertheless sad to see the Grand Cherokee becoming more and more family-oriented (or minivan-like?). Back then it was more like a 4runner, and now people are comparing it to the Palisade and Telluride...
Wow! I’m impressed with the ‘05 reference! And I hear you but I can’t blame Jeep for taking the GC in a more luxurious direction when they’ve got a 4-door Wrangler to take up the slack on the really rugged side.
We just bought a 2023 Grand Cherokee L Limited. My advise to all would be avoid it like the plague due to its new, trendy uConnect system--it sucks! I also got a 2022 Charger Scat and love the old uConnect in it!
It looks good inside and out, but true to Chrysler form, it lacks refinement. It's time for that rumored I6 and it's a little on the pricey side. That said, they'll still a million of them. When the 5-seat version arrives it will only make it a bigger hit. Some refinement would go a long way though, as it already looks amazing. Jeep/Ram newest interiors are a revelation for an American brand.
Very interesting review. Sad to hear the engine is underpowered with a clunky transmission at this price point. Was considering a new Jeep but not anymore. I was waiting for the new body style.
I know Jeeps are not known for reliability, but according to Consumer Reports, the GC is on the recommended list as well as the Gladiator, the midsized pickup. Go figure...
I'm also disappointed that Stellantis (the artist formerly known as Chrysler) hasn't put direct fuel injection in the tried and true 3.6L Pentastar V6.
They keep their appeal be cause they have extremely lax credit standards and dealers will do some very shady things to get people approved. I worked at a credit union and have sent so many people trying to refi after being told so many lies at different dodge dealers. Toyota usually doesn't play those games.
I have been waiting for the Grand Cherokee redesign for a long time because the current one is lacking a few options I will not go apart from. But it is inexcusable that Jeep has done nothing to their old engines and the L exterior redesign is a huge disappointment for me. I am now very worried about the regular Grand Cherokee. And Steve I love your reviews, including this one. I will disagree with you however: the Wrangler is no replacement for a Grand Cherokee for anyone who drives faster than 40 mph and for too many other reasons to list in a youtube comment.
The 3.6 Pentastar and 5.7 Hemi are object lessons in why it behooves an automaker to make continual improvements to existing power trains to remain competitive. 360hp from a V8 is not competitive; 260 ft lb is 2.0t territory. That being said, this is 105% of what the next Durango should be.
@@dontelindsey5846 agreed. 5.7L OHV V8 with two plugs per cylinder should easily be able to make 70hp/L, which would put it at 400hp. 75hp/L should be easy to make on 91 octane, getting you right around 430. But then you are getting too close to corporate cousin 6.4. So 363hp it is…
Truly maddening. And thanks for bringing it to my attention. I’ve also noticed this. Sadly, not a lot I can do but hope Google’s algorithms cut them down.
I want to like this Grand Cherokee, but after owning one I will never buy a Jeep again. The poor reliability was the biggest issue which is unacceptable in my opinion considering the asking prices of these new Jeeps.
....and I'm sure that vehicle is a media/press vehicle that probably has all sorts of issues with it from the hundreds of drivers beating the crap out of it too. 🤷🏾♂️
Can’t wait until you hit 100k subscribers you deserve way more
Informative, concise, and the voice over is perfect. Loved the review.
Thank you.
Great review Steve! Always watch them the second I see a post. This GC’s definitely a step up from last gen, but still has areas to improve.
You can’t compare this to a Mercedes. For cost of the overland i would say it’s pretty amazing. Better than just “good”. Shifting is smooth and the sound system was awesome. I like some of your points but it just sounds like you are being nit picky about some items. I got the 5.7L and have no regrets.
I’ve had my Overland for almost a year now and I love it. The tech stuff you mention is programmable, so you can rearrange apps to where you want them. My surround camera is at the very top of the Home Screen next to the notifications bell. The strength of the lane correction is adjustable, as is the distance between you and the car in front of you for cruise control. For the price, this is the best option on the market.
I think your last comment hit the nail on the head with this vehicle: they don't want to make it SO good buyers avoid test driving the Wagoneer.
Also, I like to see at least 1 automotive journalist giving Jeep and Dodge the due credit for successfully selling cars originally designed decades ago. I'm sure they're breaking records but nobody talks about 'em for some reason.
Anyway. Thanks for the honest review dude 👍🏾
Your review was spot on. I test drove one this week and the engine was the biggest disappointment. Gutless and unrefined, it was pretty much a deal killer. The interior is very nice, but the responsiveness of the infotainment screen is slow. Sad, because I really want to like this SUV. Nice review.
The infotainment screen was probably still in dealer shipment mode hence the sluggishness.
I love this thing with the same passion I had when the refreshed version of the previous gen came out, but I am concerned about reliability on this one even more. I read somewhere (can't remember where) that higher-ups in Stellantis forced Jeep to release the "L" version before the standard version, when in reality the standard version was supposed to be revealed first. Do you think that "rushing" this version of the GC to the market might explain some of the refinement issues you had with this tester?
I'm due for a new vehicle in the next few years, and this is near the top of my list, but reliability concerns me, especially coming from a 2009 Lexus RX-350 that has not have any major mechanical problems, even at 170k miles.
Because it’s a Steve Hammes review I had to watch.. not even interested in a Jeep currently 😀
Thanks for helping put food on the table 😉
It shows how the Palaside and Telluride are such a great deal.
I saw a white hemi V8 model Saturday afternoon. I couldn't take my eyes off of it!
I own the Overland GCL. Traded a tricked out Sahara towards it. I love it. Shifts super smooth, plenty of power in the 6 cylinder. Can't really say how quiet it is
because the McIntosh audio system is epic and it's summer, the ac is blasting. Uconnect doesn't lag. Trash review. Have a nice day.
If you’ve never driven anything else I’m sure you would think it’s great. But you keep on believing. Trash comment. Have a nice day.
Great review. New subscriber
Wow. Power folding 3rd row ---- like my 2008 Toyota Sequoia. Thanks for a very impartial and informative review.
You got it.
Never owned a Jeep product in my life but there seems to be serious potential in this product. It’s what the explorer should have been.
Agreed
I owned a house years ago that came with about $50,000 worth of McIntosh and other stuff and honestly never listened to it. Sold it with it all too and never missed it. I can't see myself willingly going to the store and shelling out that money for that stuff.
Crazy expensive. But so cool.
@@stevehammes Had those tall planar speakers, Crestron system the whole nine yards, even a huge disco floor with disco ball. I personally don't think you are missing anything. The only thing you need in life is an OLED TV. LOL
Hello there, I currently have a 2020 GC Limited. I was thinking of trading it in for a GCL Summit. But now after seeing your review I really appreciate your honesty. MOST if not all reviews I have seen from GCL is all "positive" but is it really?? I appreciate your honesty. I'm now looking more towards the palisade calligraphy.
I’ve driven one and the steering assist did not jerk the wheel at all and was very subtle. I have one on order. Although Jeep is not allowing the off-road packages to be added at this time. Not sure why
I put 500 highway miles on this one and I couldn’t believe how jerky the steering assist was; crazy bad and I didn’t have it on some ultra-aggressive setting either.
As for the off-road group I understand it’s currently limited availability due to supplier issues.
@@stevehammes yeah the dealer wouldn’t tell me why but I just wanted the upgraded limited slip axle. I don’t plan on taking this 64k Jeep into crazy trails so I’ll be good to go. Was your model an early release for testing and review? Or did you get it from a dealer as a private person ? The two that I drove up and down the highway had very subtle steering assist on the lanes. If you have the display on for the lanes it shows it turning yellow as you get closer to the line. Not once did the wheel jerk at all.
Hi Steve, I remember your review of the '05 Grand Cherokee, which you said was your choice for the SUV of the year. I still drive my '07 and love its mixture of refinement and ruggedness. I know it's probably the right move for Jeep but it's nevertheless sad to see the Grand Cherokee becoming more and more family-oriented (or minivan-like?). Back then it was more like a 4runner, and now people are comparing it to the Palisade and Telluride...
Wow! I’m impressed with the ‘05 reference! And I hear you but I can’t blame Jeep for taking the GC in a more luxurious direction when they’ve got a 4-door Wrangler to take up the slack on the really rugged side.
We just bought a 2023 Grand Cherokee L Limited. My advise to all would be avoid it like the plague due to its new, trendy uConnect system--it sucks! I also got a 2022 Charger Scat and love the old uConnect in it!
It looks good inside and out, but true to Chrysler form, it lacks refinement. It's time for that rumored I6 and it's a little on the pricey side. That said, they'll still a million of them. When the 5-seat version arrives it will only make it a bigger hit. Some refinement would go a long way though, as it already looks amazing. Jeep/Ram newest interiors are a revelation for an American brand.
Perfectly said.
Very interesting review. Sad to hear the engine is underpowered with a clunky transmission at this price point. Was considering a new Jeep but not anymore. I was waiting for the new body style.
@Speed Tube Exactly. Thank you. I bought the Overland trim a few weeks back and I'm super satisfied. None of the issues this guy prattles on about.
When will the traditional 2-row Grand Cherokee be in dealers (barring the chip shortage)?
Later this year is the plan.
Interior looks nice but other than that I don’t think it offers enough over the competition to justify its significantly higher price tag.
Going to be a reliability nightmare
I know Jeeps are not known for reliability, but according to Consumer Reports, the GC is on the recommended list as well as the Gladiator, the midsized pickup. Go figure...
I'm also disappointed that Stellantis (the artist formerly known as Chrysler) hasn't put direct fuel injection in the tried and true 3.6L Pentastar V6.
4 cylinder in a 5000lb vehicle is dumb. Glad Chrysler is smarter than that.
I own one. The 6 cylinder. You're not drag racing in this but it's plenty fast enough to merge and pass which is all I need/want.
They keep their appeal be cause they have extremely lax credit standards and dealers will do some very shady things to get people approved. I worked at a credit union and have sent so many people trying to refi after being told so many lies at different dodge dealers. Toyota usually doesn't play those games.
Interesting take.
I have had an experience with a Chrysler dealer, where they lowered my credit score so that I would not qualify for lower APR rates.
It s nice vehicul
Great review, as always, of a vehicle that leaves me feeling nothing.
Totally understand that take.
I have been waiting for the Grand Cherokee redesign for a long time because the current one is lacking a few options I will not go apart from. But it is inexcusable that Jeep has done nothing to their old engines and the L exterior redesign is a huge disappointment for me. I am now very worried about the regular Grand Cherokee.
And Steve I love your reviews, including this one. I will disagree with you however: the Wrangler is no replacement for a Grand Cherokee for anyone who drives faster than 40 mph and for too many other reasons to list in a youtube comment.
How do you feel about the Grand Cherokee / L Now?
Steve, are you an audiophile?
Don’t think I qualify but I certainly have an interest.
I prefer my Durango over this design.
The 3.6 Pentastar and 5.7 Hemi are object lessons in why it behooves an automaker to make continual improvements to existing power trains to remain competitive. 360hp from a V8 is not competitive; 260 ft lb is 2.0t territory. That being said, this is 105% of what the next Durango should be.
I'm a big Mopar fan but I can't understand how that V8 only puts out 363hp. It should be something closer to 450.
@@dontelindsey5846 agreed. 5.7L OHV V8 with two plugs per cylinder should easily be able to make 70hp/L, which would put it at 400hp. 75hp/L should be easy to make on 91 octane, getting you right around 430. But then you are getting too close to corporate cousin 6.4. So 363hp it is…
It's more than great...you are wrong
That's very insightful analysis. By the way, what comes after 'great'?
Compete With Tahoe And Explorer
Pricey.
Not my cup of tea, nevertheless I enjoyed your video review
Thanks!
Problem again with their vehicles they come up short and this is nothing more but an oversized Compass.
Off Subject for this review..Been watching you for many many years..But I was on Car and Drivers Website
Truly maddening. And thanks for bringing it to my attention. I’ve also noticed this. Sadly, not a lot I can do but hope Google’s algorithms cut them down.
I want to like this Grand Cherokee, but after owning one I will never buy a Jeep again. The poor reliability was the biggest issue which is unacceptable in my opinion considering the asking prices of these new Jeeps.
Which model did you have?
Overpriced!
Very bad review. You comparing it to the wrong type of vehicles.
By bad do you mean good?
I can always rely on this guy's reviews for a plethora of complaints/gripes... regardless of vehicle. 🤦🏾♂️
That’s the very definition of a review, right?
....and I'm sure that vehicle is a media/press vehicle that probably has all sorts of issues with it from the hundreds of drivers beating the crap out of it too. 🤷🏾♂️
That can be the case but this one only had about 1,300 miles on it when it got to me.
I see the Jeep marketing team is doing damage control 😂
@@mtnx7 - Ssshh 🤫
That thing is ugly. The inside looks cheap . Jeep really screwed up this time .
Lol okay sure
New styles ugly