Figure vs Optimus | The Rate of Change is going Exponential! W/Scott Walter
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- Brett Adcock, CEO of Figure robotics recently spoke with Dr. Scott Walter and Herbert Ong (link below) about their Figure One robot and the deal they have struck with BMW manufacturing. There's a ton to unpack, and Scott and I do just that!
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19:17 I gotta disagree, guys. I have MS, with very little feeling in my fingers, but mobility is fine. While I agree that I can move and grasp anything, not having sensory makes me fumble things fairly regularly. That sensory feedback allows maintenance of the contract.
I'm not sure if an AI brain would rely on it, unlike someone who had it for 30 years before, but just saying, it might not hold things as well as you'd like. ❤️😊
With all the bad stuff going on in the world I cling to topics like this for hope. Thanks guys for your time and enthusiasm!
I'm a rock climber and will always remember the first time I was on the moors (Dartmoor) and had that 'numb hand' feeling. It was freezing cold and I was on a steep part of the climb, holding onto a big juggy hold that was just out of sight. I couldn't see or feel my hand, but knew that the signal to 'grip' was still working because I hadn't fallen off. Weird feeling, Lol
That signal was then your muscle strain no? Yeah sometimes u just leave and grasp just by force. Human body is weird. Tho for positioning your hand u need at least vision IMO.
Nice talk.
I am trying to be as knowledgeable as possible on this topic. Hobbyist robotics, big data, data science, and ML as a profession. I love this stuff.
With respect to the video...
There were places when it was clear he was surprised at the details you had surmised. E.g. Shoulder architecture.
You Grok his design - I think he did not expect this.
I think he was very scared to even hint at training approaches because you would have probably been spot on with your guesses on AI training as well.
You (including people on the other video) appear to be the most competent people on this topic of the hours of searching I have done.
Excellent work.
Disagree that touch isn't important. In fact, even using the example of numb hands, I've had trouble doing fine manipulation when my hands were super cold for this exact reason - for things like handling delicate objects, touch is important to understand the amount of force you are putting on the object (e.g. an egg) - you can't really get that just from vision or other feedback from muscles.
Bi-Ped robots like NE0/Figure/Optimus etc., are not designed to perform various tasks in construction sites or farming, such as lifting, carrying, and assembling materials. However, the current models are limited by their weight capacity, which ranges from 5 to 10 kilograms. This means that they cannot handle heavier items, such as cement packs, which can weigh up to 50 kilograms. Therefore, the developers of these robots need to create several Power versions with different weight capacities, depending on the specific needs of the farmer/construction workers.
Yeah like a T800 perhaps 😅
Yeah but that is version 3.9 or (whatever :D ). First we need to handle simple dangerous and more importantly tediously repetitive boring tasks first. I know market have many heavy heavy and messy implementations where would those bots come handy indeed.
Boston Dynamics will excel in those areas once they add a brain to the bot.
@@rodneylee4026 It will but Hyundai (owner) has to tackle its low battery capacity which I understand is 1 hour (correct me if I am wrong)
Big difference between figure and tesla: Tesla is designing the factory for the bot. BMW will just insert the bot into existing factory
i like scott the most. hes the best, most intelligent guest with deep knowledge aswell!
Thread a nut on a bolt you can't see due to visual obstruction without touch.
I keep thinking that the big breakthrough that's still to come is being able to foresee & direct movement through imagination. I think that that's what gives animals their sublime agility along with rhythmic atonation in their coordination constancy.
Scott, don't ignore banks. In the UK alone there are over 300k bank tellers.
29:03 makes me wonder if the UAW was able to get such big concessions from the auto workers because they were already planning to replace a large portion of their workers
FoGM will close dozens of ICE factories in bankruptcy.
Despite your critics, I think this is an awesome podcast. Really enjoy the 2 of you. Hope to meet you guys this June at the Muskegon Tesla takeover event. The Highlander😊
Hi Doctor know it all and hi Scott. I think Scott should work on the figure bot. It would be even more awesome, sooner!
Interesting that you keep using the 70mph down the highway example when that might be the easiest part of FSD / AP. Local peculiarities have offered many more corner cases as highways are standardized and local roads are not
I'll buy one when it can assemble an Ikea bookcase by reading and interpreting the Ikea instructions! (Silly!!!)
I hope Optimus’ bottom doesn’t fall out…
When the economics of the bot are realized and they are produced at scale, the jobs they are taking will be replaced by better jobs. You need people to program them, repair them, monitor and optimize them, customize them, coordinate their deployment, design their accesories. As they scale exponentially to address any and all future labour needs, the human facilitators needed might be the limiting factor to their growth.
Also, re: whether Tesla should have tackled robotics vs FSD first, Brett Adcock said the electric actuator technology wasn't compact, lightweight or strong enough until recently. All the control hardware was already available for cars years ago.
The Hands are limited for detailed jobs like threading a needle.
So the hands Can grip specialized Tools/end effectors, such as a Drill motor, torque wrench, Needle threader, etc.
A Quiver/Tool changer on the "shoulder(s)"? Would allow for ambidextrous Tool changes.
It’s possible that the entire Forearm could be replaced with a Specialized end effector (Surgery/small assembly ?).
Cheers from San Diego
Brett liked Scott. Thanks guys
Sensors are necessary so the bot will know how hard to grip something. For instance to grip a drill you want to hold it tight enough to not drop it. The sensors will make this easier to learn.
Figure is working with BMW and I fully expect that BMW will manufacture the Figure bots (maybe under licence) or for Bret.
5:25 Excellent point, Figure was taught by end-to-end. That was the aha! moment.
A boulder dismissing touch as not important is missing something crucial.
Actuators - I expect Tesla to become a supplier of actuators, and that they will release specifications so other manufacturing companies can become suppliers.
Consider this:
What if the bot uses a 48V architecture that is also used in Cybertruck? 48V is enough to turn a steering actuator - it should be enough for all humanoid applications.
If all components support the same (assumed) serial protocols there is no need for wiring harnesses. A master/slave set-up with easy access to sensors and such.
Tesla has the opportunity to be the de facto standard for the emerging robotics industry. They seem to be flexing their muscles in that direction with NAC...
Interesting world we are moving to.
I’d love to see you guys do a video with someone from NVIDIA who could talk about digital twins and maybe even their Jetson nano products. This would help us understand the training and even balance and movement of humanoid bots.
Great interview
Great channel
However could you let your guests finish their answers and listen in silence
I am still not convinced that Figure is close to Tesla's Optimus bot, and Bret kept not answering Scott's questions about training.
You are a crazy Tesla cultmember,nobody can help you!
I was thinking the same thing. He seemed shady in the video.
Agreed, but Brett DOES have an agreement with BMW. Cannot discount that win
Yeah I was getting strong Trevor Milton vibes… and maybe its bc he’s an AI guy not a robotics guy… but it’s concerning that he evasive instead of admitting what he didn’t know…
“Germans know what they are doing” wait what country is VW from??? 😂
Tesla said that there weren't actuators that met their needs available commercially, so they made their own. The planetary gear design that they chose may be the ultimate/optimum design because that gearing design is the most compact, power dense known. There may be a commercial opportunity if someone makes planetary actuators.
working on FSD has made creating the bot brain a LOT easier...
I would buy Optimus a funnel and a needle threader total cost $0.60
What would Festo have in the works for this sort of thing? Just thinking about the German connection with BMW etc.
Any chance that eventually, there will be enough suppliers of humanoid robot parts where open source DIY kits become available? When do you think that can happen?
Curious about the total amph needed to operate 8hrs a day? What battery chemistry ? Finally in terminator they had a nuclear power source, if Tesla had Optimus in space, could that power source have a enough capacity in a form factor to work for 5 years?
The question is, will the bot make the bot? Lol
@Dr. Scott Walter, re: whither tactile sense, have you heard of leprosy? I think you take sensation for granted because you haven't had numbness. Leprosy doesn't corrode fingers, but they lose fingertips from damaging them from lack of tactile feedback; with metal fingers, you risk damaging delicate items, like eggs and babies (for domestic robots).
A real test. Put a robot in a kitchen it has never been in. Give it a recipe card and it cooks that meal as well as a trained chef.
As far as I understand, the training of humanoid robots require a huge amount of compute power. I thought it represented a high barrier of entry to this market, but if a small startup like Figure was able to raise the capital for buying that amount of compute, then do the big tech companies like tesla, microsoft, etc. really have a huge advantage compared to the emerging startups?
It seems to me that it won't be long before you can simply build your own bot. The hardware will become so standardized and simplified that it will just be matter of purchasing parts and assembling.
Regarding the bot’s different perspective: can the bot use NeRF to “envision” the target’s perspective and, therefore, train itself from the target’s perspective?
Loop the thread instead of twisting it.
Wouldn't help for robotaxi, but maybe we should just settle for level 2 BUT with the driver ONLY required to hold a 'deadman brake'.
I.e. they have to keep their hand on a lever all the time, and if they see a problem developing, they have to pull it.
Nearly never need to steer - just to warn the car that it appears to be making a mistake.
Hey Doc, you might want to try decaf.
Caffeine can act as a cognitive sedative for many people (while still acting as a physical stimulant).
PS kindness is always free the Highlander.😊
In regard to fully autonomous driving maybe the best entry to achieve that is to teach a robot to ride an e-bike so that instead of a dangerous heavy vehicle with its many safety issues could have a much easier job of creating a safe e-bike bot that weighs a few hundred pounds that moves at 20 mph not 70.
This may not be a huge revenue source (though using e-bike bots for the last mile delivery might be so) but this could be great way to ease in the fully autonomous driving capability to the public.
Also, a e-bike bot that rides it's bike up to your house, gets off the bike, walks up to the front door , and leaves a package, takes a photo and sends a email of that to the home owner will introduce the public to robots where having them hidden away in some factory will not.
And the e-bike eco system will be even harder in some ways than the self driving car, but easier in regard to safety issues so that this might be a good combination to develop totally autonomous self driving.
One other advantage of using an e-bike bot for the last mile delivery is that unlike using a UAV, this method is quite and much safer, no whirling blades, and does not need a clear area to land or a tether cable and such.
And riding a few miles on a e-bike is a piece of cake and as such UAVs could be employed not so much for the last mile but the 10 miles before the last mile and take packages to a UAV friendly distribution point where the e-bike bots the delivery the last mile, or even the last couple of miles.
Also, the postal service might employ these to bring back the walking mail man.
And a e-bike might be much better a platform than say a quad in that many cities have bike lanes and such and (if this should ever take off) might encourage other cities to create them, thus being of benefit to bike riders as well.
And note that a cargo e-bike can carry a lot, up to 500lbs of cargo plus a rider.
So this is a niche market that some start up bot company might claim rather than having to butt heads with the big players like Tesla.
And in regard to having bolt on attachments and such, one problem a bot might face in delivery a package is gates and fences where the bot or the bike might have an long arm that can be used to reach over a fence and set the package inside it without having to open any gate.
This will both make the package more safe and be less of an intrusion and also simplify the training in that the bot would not have to learn to open gates.
Also, UAVs could be used to survey new sites to give the bot a heads up of what the delivery site looks like and also any human that might have to assist the bot in a delivery. But once a bot has made a delivery then that data could be saved for future deliveries.
So the punch line hear is that this might be lower hanging fruit than one might think to apply robot technology outside the factory, but not in the home, but to the home, the acting as a middle ground between the two.
One additional thought.
These could make deliveries late at night where traffic (both cars and people) or less where humans could make day deliveries so that these could be eased into operation.
on removing a part of the hand: I'd look into removing the palm. Just have fingers, and have them bend backwards as well as forwards? In regard to use cases for a bot: Have you ever seen a sorting line in a factory, where people pick out defects from a conveyor passing in front of them for 8 to 12 hours? That's a no-brainer for these bots, I think. In regard to turnover of employees: When I worked at Amazon in Lexington SC, their turnover was 250%, just for permanent employees, not counting temps.
Scott what about creating a ghost image in Bot eyes so it has a road map for Bot to follow. Look at your expensive cameras they lock on to target of person you take picture
Britt said the demo wouldn't have worked with a different brand of coffee maker, which was disappointing. We had assumed the figure bot had used AI to achieve its result, but Brett's comment hinted that it was either pre-programmed into the parts used or the environment had to have been manipulated.
All of these videos are fake from any so-called robot startup.
A skunk works at Tesla Global Engineering and AI Headquarters in Palo Alto comes before the bots in the factories. It would be fasinating to get a look inside the areas in the Page Mill building where they are testing the Gen 2 bots. The location where they filmed the Gen 2 folding a shirt was clearly not its usual location (charger and emergency stop on the floor).
Figure is a real world AI startup. They are going to fund their AI startup with humanoid robotics just like Tesla funded its startup with EVs.
The CU-ICAR (Clemson University - International Center for Automotive Research) facility is actually 14 miles south of the BMW factory. It is east and just off of I85 in Greenville between the Laurens Road and Woodruff Road exits. It backs up to I85.
Two thoughts:
1. Do you think old line electric companies (GE, Siemens) have opportunity in actuator manufacturing?
2. What sort of subsidy will China offer to a robotics company to get their hands on the actuator specs?
Hyundai/Boston Dynamics are in same position. Why is no-one talking about them?
Fascinating discussion, I wonder if getting help from blind and deaf people would be helpful? They have to rely on senses other than vision or sound depending on the person. Where is the pinball wizard when you need him? Tommy can you hear me?
Tommy had selective mutism - a psychiatric disorder, rather than sensory disabilities.
Based on Siemens’ wind turbine clusterFrunk, “No.”
@@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck I'm aware of Tommy's condition, maybe it wasn't the best analogy (first thing that came to mind), but maybe not. I think we are as a species are sometimes over reliant on vision. I do a LOT of things where I can't see what my hands/feet/body is doing in relation to what I'm doing, as we all do. I don't rely on my vision for anywhere close to 100% of what I do. Tommy was limited in a way because of his psychological issue in how the world saw him, not necessarily how he sensed the world. The majority of us have decent vision, and maybe over rely on it. We don't hold a candle to vision or hearing challenged people in how we use our other senses, this is what I was trying to get at. Also, why create bots that rely on vision alone, which requires good light, which isn't available in all situations without artificial light (whatever the spectrum). For example, in construction/industry, people have to go into dangerous situations (think about the folks working in manholes) which can be very dangerous. Why be limited to providing artificial light (which might be dangerous due to flammable gases) where the other senses could make up for it? Also, if we only limit the bots to what seeing humans can do, we may be greatly limiting the capabilities of these bots. I think the same could apply to training. I have no idea what you are referring to regarding Siemens' wind turbine clusterF.
Mass manufacturing is a Tesla strength, but I think their software & pipeline are a bigger moat. Bot learning will hit local maxima just like FDS has. Tesla has encountered this many times and their training data curation, training & simulation tools, & NN architecture have had many generations of evolution. This, the quality of Tesla's, and their deep pockets are a huge advantage over the others.
It’s not just because of the safety reasons. There’s literally an infinite tail of edge cases that FSD won’t be capable of being trained on.
Also they are making the same mistake of assumptions with TeslaBot.
The national security concerns, have not been addressed as far as I know...What country first harnesses the bots....I don't expect the Tesla Shang factories to feature Optimus, anytime soon..if ever.
They won't need them either. They have kickass hyper advanced biobots that can go for 18 hours a day without a recharge. Now wait, before you answer. Let the dime fall first😜
@@bertdemeulemeesterOptimus style bots that are militarized# don't need wages, don't go home, don't need drilling and extra training...as soon as their power consumption, comes down low enough could take any army, anywhere, in any conditions, nuclear winter or otherwise....The political class in the U.S. may not realise the potential yet, but others do. If Optimus gets in to the wrong hands, the balance of power in the world will be irrevocably changed..
@@treestandsafety3996 the wrong hands is the US government...
Did you see that basically senile old man's speech lately? At least the Chinese government has control. In the states the gov is nothing but a façade for pure evil
On bottle to bottle filling, do it pouring soda and not overflowing the destination bottle ... Yep, not easy.
The real value of a bot is the 'replacement cost' of a 'meat machine' aka human. Even a human has a 15 to 25 year cost of maintenance before it starts to be useful, where a bot can be a couple of weeks from raw material till lo deliverable useful product, and a product of a bot can be useful from close to day one. And the continuing cost is minimal long term and the 'meat machine' cost does typically get more as it ages and gains more skill. The cost of a bot becoming more skillful (educated) is not cheap, but it is close to a one time sunk cost per level of education. At least that is what I see....
When a human becomes useful depends where you live on earth .
Forget pouring oil. Pass a egg from one hand to another using the egg's weak axis.
Removing the pinky from Robots will be like removing their future right to hold drinks stably late in the evening.
Funny. The insurance company requires that their application form has the box clicked "I am not a ROBOT".
Why fixate on ONE model of robot and not a whole family of them, with different mass and capabilities?
The easier it is to teach a bot, the easier it can "teach" itself.
BMW is an interesting choice for Figure AI. Most people I've talked to about the last lineup of BMWs cars agreed with me, that BMW seems to have a problem with their design and identity as a carbrand. These last iterations of several of their formerly best selling cars are just 'meh' or even 'ugly'. Some are from an artists perspective of lines and curves just not good or state of the art. Just to clarify at the end that my problem with BMW isn't with the cars and the technology stuffed in there. BMW knows how to build great cars, I've owned an E46 and I loved it.
I'm interested to see how BMW and Figure AI 'figure out' the best ways to introduce the robots to the factory(s) and build great and hopefully better looking cars in the future. Thanks for reading through my TED-'write' 🤗
Scott, maybe they had a second coffee machine with a human that had a camera is in same position as Bot
Ah! The old barista ploy.
Social disruption ahead. What will be the human purpose? To maintain machines?
Seems like Brett was pretty clear. He said video to limb/body position. That's what we do when we watch someone do something. We can watch from any angle and work out what positions we need to adopt to replicate it. So I'd expect that training a nn to do the same would be pretty straightforward? Then once the bot "watching video/live to target position" is trained then training it to add "target position to reproducing that pisition itself" can be trained. You then have a way for the bot to watch and emulate any action.
Am I missing something that makes it a more complex problem?
it's an incredibly complex problem. There are no robots capable of observing movements and learning how to do a task from them.
Robots may not "need" sensors so much, but certainly they do and could benefit from them. Unless you are a high speed car that must not make mistakes, "sensor fusion" diminishes as any kind of a problem and actually is an asset. If I touch a robot or vice versa, I want it to know that. It should sense things that can not be seen - temperature, kinematics, texture,wetness, pressure, etc. Humans can "make-do" with reduced sensory perceptions (although that is considered a disability by most people in most cases). But it is the "embodiment" of AI (not limited to the humanoid form factor) that allows the possibility of simply being more than a machine. Sensory perception and "agency" distinguish AI robots from algorithms and control systems running machinery. Telepresense and all living things depend on sensoria and so will robots now and in the future. So no need to be cheap or cost-cutting on sensors.
I can't count how many times in my life that I would have burned to ashes had I not had the sense of touch. These things will hopefully have temperature sensors in their hands as well.
Brett seemed way out of his depth on the robotics questions. Maybe this just isn’t his area. I wish that he could have given better answers to Scott. Seemed very evasive. He should’ve brought his chief engineer of the hardware side to field these questions.
As such he gave off very Trevor Milton vibes…😬
In regard to extra parts, military aircraft has solved this problem long ago by providing hard points to attach racks and pods.
The hard points do not add all that much weight or complexity but allow one to attack extra stuff as needed or remove them if not needed.
Thus in regard to wetting that thread with one's mouth.. or the like. It would not be all that hard to add hard points to add a mouth if needed (like how often has one held something in one's mouth to free both hands), a tail, a hat, or the like... or maybe even a pinkie finger as well.
These hard points like the end of the arm could have standardized interfaces both mechanically and electrically and with little additional weight, cost, and complexity add a disproportionate amount of flexibility to "missionize" a bot.
This also might be like having USB sockets in one's computer that allows one to add devices to their PC and laptops and such.
Musk will never give up on FSD. It’s not in his nature.
The transformation is just math and thus should not being all that hard.
Perspective is super important, then you can just have Teslabot watch billions of hours of TH-cam videos and be a pro in no time.
there are obvious simple things that the tele-controlled bot cannot do. It cannot button a shirt, peel an egg or an orange. It cannot use a pull tab to even open a can of peas. Let see it pick up a dime off the floor or open an envelope.
Besides the unproven AI, look at the fingers on Optimus! could it even pick up a needle to thread it? Start a roll of tape, put a lid on a cup, make change out of a register? How long would it take to peel a label off the backing? pick up a pen and write? A person, without looking, can pick up just one small screw out of a pile and orient it in his hand. A person, can reach into their pocket and count change without looking. Please tell me the "easy" jobs it will be able to do! Everyone thinks it's so easy , that you can "just teach it"(everything apparently). There are so many other problems and virtually nothing has been demonstrated to solve them.
Enthusiasts will say "It's not like FSD because you don't have to be 100% accurate". Then it will fail in its job.
If it drops a box of screws, breaks something expensive, falls and breaks itself, stops production etc. it's costs could be more than the savings.
Enthusiasts will say "It doesn't need to be fast because it can work long hours". Then it will fail in its job.
Factories are built for people to operate, so it will have to operate like a person. Asset utilization is important. Otherwise you'll have to create dumb jobs for it like overnight stock-boy.
Call me when they demonstrate a stock-boy, if I'm not dead.
The fud about the car was easy to ignore because the car was on the road. But the uncertainty and doubt about a humanoid bot that has no brain yet is very real.
The factory fork-lift of the future will be driven by AI and have cameras to see all around. It won't have a steering wheel waiting for a robot to climb in and drive. You won't be maintaining hand controls on the truck or wasting time or wearing out the robot or wasting the energy. The best part is no part! Should optimus stand in one spot packing widgets never using its legs? "It's made human-like so it can work in environments made for humans" Think about that. That is the antithesis of "First Principles"! It compounds costs/complexity and reduces efficiency. I'm an automation engineer, I wish they would put AI on all the existing dumb robots.
Optimus can't even do what the darpa challenge bots did 8 years ago.
See a bot untie a knot watch YT "why we don't have robot butlers yet"
see one load a dishwasher "Princeton Robotics - Russ Tedrake"
Correct. All jobs eligible for robotisation are already done by robotarms in factories. Teslabot is actually more like a necessity for starship, Mars and the moon. To do some dumbed down easy construction work, I guess. It's very much a SpaceX project being done by the sister company that has money to spare. I think cybertruck is something similar too. As a steel alloytestbed. When you look at how much of a gobbled together disaster the truck is😂. Ofcourse Elon has enough gullible fanboys to buy the thing and cover the R&D. Fact that Tesla wouldn't even put their name on the truck says enough.
@@bertdemeulemeester I doubt it. On mars you will definitely need a bigger AI robot that can manipulate and join large habitat panels and move machinery. And you would want a smaller AI robot with tools instead of hands so it can manipulate/repair cables/connectors quickly without having to pick up hand tools. And it should have extending legs rather than get on a ladder since most cables will probably be overhead. You won't have humanoids operating cranes and using ladders and hand tools. You may only need one humanoid to set up a base because humans didn't evolve to use technology.
Spot on
It is all insanely complex and Tesla's team is so small they will get nowhere.
Same idiotic arguments. Didn't Elon land an orbital rocket and reused it 10 times?
Look a a sensory homunculus of a human - mostly hands and fingers
Democratization of robots. What could go wrong?
They are already screwed - Tesla will see them as competition and double their efforts...
BMW irc has unions so GFL getting bots to run factories
I don't believe there are any unions in BMW's Spartanburg operation. Spartanburg is in South Carolina, a right to work state.
@@user-cp3zf5eg7d Well I guess one future proofed profitable factory is better than none for BMW.
please let scott talk, you speak tol much. thx
>|< I believe we are meant to be like Jesus in our hearts and not in our flesh. But be careful of AI, for it knows only things of the flesh such as our fleshly desires (without fear of God) and cannot comprehend things of the Spirit such as true love and eternal joy that comes from obeying God's Word [Galatians 5:16-26]. Man is a spirit and has a soul but lives in a body which is flesh. When you go to bed it is the flesh that sleeps, but your spirit never sleeps and that is why you have dreams, unless you have died in peace physically. More so, true love that endures and last is a thing of the heart. When I say 'heart', I mean 'spirit'. But fake love, pretentious love, love with expectations, love for classic reasons, love for material reasons (love because of material needs) and love for selfish reasons outside God those are things of the flesh. In the beginning God said let us make man in our own image, according to our likeness. Take note, God is Spirit and God is Love. As Love He is the source of it. We also know that God is Omnipotent, for He creates out of nothing and He has no beginning and has no end. That means, our love is but a shadow of God's Love. True love looks around to see who is in need of your help, your smile, your possessions, your money, your strength, your quality time. Love forgives and forgets. Love wants for others what it wants for itself. However, true love works in conjunction with other spiritual forces such as patience and faith - in the finished work of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, rather than in what man has done such as science, technology and organizations which won't last forever. To avoid sin and error which leads to the death of your body and your spirit-soul in hell fire (second death), you must make God's Word the standard for your life, not AI or your flesh. If not, God will let you face AI on your own (with your own strength) and it will cast the truth down to the ground, it will be the cause of so much destruction like never seen before, it will deceive many and take many captive in order to enslave them into worshipping it and abiding in lawlessness. We can only destroy ourselves but with God all things are possible. God knows us better because He is our Creater and He knows our beginning and our end. The prove texts can be found in the book of John 5:31-44, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12, Daniel 2, Daniel 7-9, Revelation 13-15, Matthew 24-25 and Luke 21.
*HOW TO MAKE GOD'S WORD THE STANDARD FOR YOUR LIFE?*
You must read your Bible slowly, attentively and repeatedly, having this in mind that Christianity is not a religion but a Love relationship. It is measured by the love you have for God and the love you have for your neighbor. Matthew 5:13 says, "You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its flavor, how shall it be seasoned? It is then good for nothing but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot by men." Our spirits can only be purified while in the body (while on earth) but after death anything unpurified (unclean) cannot enter Heaven Gates. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God [Matthew 5:8]. No one in his right mind can risk or even bare to put anything rotten into his body nor put the rotten thing closer to the those which are not rotten. Sin makes the heart unclean but you can ask God to forgive you, to save your soul, to cleanse you of your sin, to purify your heart by the blood of His Son, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ which He shed here on earth because Isaiah 53:5 says, "But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed". Meditation in the Word of God is a visit to God because God is in His Word. We know God through His Word because the Word He speaks represent His heart's desires. Meditation is a thing of the heart, not a thing of the mind. Thinking is lower level while meditation is upper level. You think of your problems, your troubles but inorder to meditate, you must let go of your own will, your own desires, your own ways and let the Word you read prevail over thinking process by thinking of it more and more, until the Word gets into your blood and gains supremacy over you. That is when meditation comes - naturally without forcing yourself, turning the Word over and over in your heart. You can be having a conversation with someone while meditating in your heart - saying 'Thank you, Jesus...' over and over in your heart. But it is hard to meditate when you haven't let go of offence or past hurts because you need a free spirit to believe His Word and meditate on it. Your pain of the past, leave it for God, don't worry yourself, Jesus is alive, you can face tomorrow, He understands what you are passing through today. Begin to meditate on this prayer day and night (in all that you do), "Lord take more of me and give me more of you. Give me more of your holiness, faithfulness, obedience, self-control, purity, humility, love, goodness, kindness, joy, patience, forgiveness, wisdom, understanding, calmness, perseverance... Make me a channel of shinning light where there is darkness, a channel of pardon where there is injury, a channel of love where there is hatred, a channel of humility where there is pride..." The Word of God becomes a part of us by meditation, not by saying words but spirit prayer (prayer from the heart). Take note, God is Spirit and those who worship Him should do so in spirit and truth (genuinely by living the Word). When the Word becomes a part of you, it will by its very nature influence your conduct and behavior. You become a new creation, guided by the Holy Spirit and not just what you hear or see. Your bad habits, you will no longer have the urge to do them. You will think differently, dream differently, act differently and talk differently - if something does not qualify for meditation, it does not qualify for conversation.
*THE BATTLE BETWEEN LIGHT AND DARKNESS (GOOD AND EVIL)*
Heaven is God's throne and the dwelling place for God's angels and the saints. Hell was meant for the devil (satan) and the fallen angels. Those who torture the souls in hell are demons (unclean spirits). Man's spirit is a free moral agent. You can either yield yourself to the Spirit God by choosing to do good or to the evil spirit by choosing to do wrong because God has given us discretion. If one thinks he possesses only his own spirit, he is lying to himself and he is already in the dark. God is light while the devil is darkness. Light (Holy Spirit) and darkness (evil spirit) cannot stay together in a man's body. God is Love (Love is light) and where there is no love is hell, just as where there is no light there is absolute darkness. The one you yield yourself to, you will get his reward. The reward of righteousness to man's spirit is life (abundant life) and the reward of sin to man's spirit is death. Sin and satan are one and the same. Whatever sin can cause, satan also can cause. Sin is what gives the devil dominion or power over man's spirit. When God's Word becomes a part of you, sin power over you is broken because Jesus and His Word are one and Jesus much more powerful that satan, and you become the righteousness of God through Christ Jesus. Where Jesus is, you are and when He went (to the Father), you went. In the book of John 8:42-47, Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.” My prayer is, "May God bless His Word in the midst of your heart that it may become a part of you by meditating on the Word." Glory and honour be to God our Father, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and our Helper the Holy Spirit. Watch and pray!... Thank you for your time and may God bless you as you share this message with others.
Elon has Neura Link that allow human to computer interface using the monkey to perform this task
Our base reality is just another sim to an AI.
IMO it's all back- assward, If you are able to put a brain in a robot, then put it in existing robots first. You could test and prove learning concepts/systems on existing equipment. There are all kinds of robots, controllers, vision systems etc. that could use a brain now. The factory fork-lift of the future will be driven by AI and have cameras to see all around. It WON'T have a steering wheel and wait for a robot to climb in and drive. You won't be maintaining hand controls on the truck, or wasting time, or wearing out the robot and wasting the energy. The best part is no part! Should Optimus stand there packing widgets and never use its legs? "It's made human-like so it can work in environments made for humans" Think about that. That is the antithesis of "First Principles"! It compounds costs/complexity and reduces efficiency. I'm an automation engineer, I wish they would put AI on all the existing dumb robots.
Besides the unproven AI, look at the fingers on Optimus! Could it even pick up a needle to thread it, Start a roll of tape, put a lid on a cup, make change out of a register? How long would it take to peel a label off the backing? pick up a pen and write? A person, without looking, can pick up just one small screw out of a pile and orient it in his hand. A person can reach into their pocket and count change without looking. Please tell me the "easy" jobs a humanoid will be able to do!
Making it more human-like doesn't make it more useful, in fact now it's limited to what a humanoid can do and will NEVER do everything a person could.
Enthusiasts will say "It's not like FSD because you don't have to be 100% accurate". Then it will fail in its job.
If it drops a box of screws, breaks something expensive, falls and breaks itself, stops production etc. it's costs could be more than the savings.
Enthusiasts will say "It doesn't need to be fast because it can work long hours". Then it will fail in its job.
Factories are built for people to operate, so it will have to operate like a person. Asset utilization is important. Otherwise you'll have to create dumb jobs for it like overnight stock-boy.
Call me when they demonstrate a stock-boy, if I'm not dead.
Enthusiasts will say "we'll need them on mars" On mars you will want an AI crane/robot that can manipulate and join large habitat panels and move machinery. And you would want a smaller AI robot with tools instead of hands so it can manipulate/repair cables/connectors quickly without having to pick up hand tools. And it should have extending legs rather than get on a ladder since most cables will probably be overhead. It would be ridiculous to have a humanoid operate cranes and use wire cutters. You may only need one humanoid to set up a base because humans didn't evolve to use technology.
The fud about the car was easy to ignore because the car was on the road. But the uncertainty and doubt about a humanoid bot that has no brain yet is very real.
Tesla stock is in the dumps again today. But no other company on the stock market has anything close to what Tesla has in the cannon.
The argument that "Robots will do jobs nobody wants to do" is a bit disingenuous in my opinion. First off that seems to imply, that no one in America wants to do it. Because there are currently a lot of out of work factory workers in the world. Especially in China. A lot of these workers are in there 40-50s and have only done factory work there entire life. Robots aren't going to have to pass through immigration. They won't have to apply for a green card to work in a foreign country. Humanoid robots will be everywhere in the world easier than people moving across boarders. I can guaranty that a robot is going to take the jobs of 3 people in a country that really could use the jobs because that's all the workers have ever done there to support their families.
Mobile Aloha is a droid. Optimus is an android. You don't need to make up your own words.
I am not impressed. It all makes me fear the possible extinction of mankind in his present form.
Made up trashtalk!
What about using a mirror image so Bot can watch another person with same machine but on other side of table. Then Bot have an idea by monkey see monkey do
Oh and BTW ROBOTS ALREADY BUILD CARS