Renault Sport Megane 265 vs Toyota GT86: The FULL Challenge | Fifth Gear

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  • In this classic clip, taken from series 22, which was first broadcast in 2013, Vicki & Tiff go head to head in this challenge putting the Renault Sport Megane 265 up against the Toyota GT86. For access to exclusive Fifth Gear content and all FULL episodes, join our channel / @fifthgearuk
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  • @TheDashPL
    @TheDashPL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The fact that the gt86 is compared to a megane rs (cup or non cup) is just silly, gt86 comes closer to a clio but nowhere near megane

  • @NafaratMiyaMiya
    @NafaratMiyaMiya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    We lost Sabine earlier this year, so its great to see the other track queen VBH still doing an amazing job! These two would be great having their own show ... two classic legends!

    • @RoobehTunes
      @RoobehTunes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, Vicki and Tiff are a wonderful presenting duo.

  • @smellylittlekiwi5743
    @smellylittlekiwi5743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Got to love there enthusiasm in whatever they drive

  • @mpa1931
    @mpa1931 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Vicki and Tiff have just as great chemistry as May Hammond and Clarkson. They could do a non car show and it would still be fun.

  • @baronhyatt6729
    @baronhyatt6729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Geat episode any with vicky is great we all love vicky

  • @davidpeters6536
    @davidpeters6536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Tiff! Nice to see you on this, I hope to see you return in the next series

    • @davidwalden444
      @davidwalden444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is from 9 years ago unfortunately :(

  • @somajaib7467
    @somajaib7467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tiff has a brilliant driving skills! Impressed

  • @gavinivers8941
    @gavinivers8941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Would be interesting to see the new GR86 tested.

  • @johnswift500
    @johnswift500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Vicky s in good shape without the extra horse power

  • @DoubleDeckerAnton
    @DoubleDeckerAnton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Vicky has a lot of enthusiasm, as usual.

  • @rossappleton9758
    @rossappleton9758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved your show n still do.. 🍻

  • @LoftechUK
    @LoftechUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This. Idea is great Keep up all the good work

  • @memeguyTM
    @memeguyTM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best way to test hot hatches is fastest around a twisty track

  • @PeakPerformanceReviews
    @PeakPerformanceReviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Makes me proud of my Fiesta ST’s 1 min 29 second lap and my FK8’s 1 min 24 😬🙌❤️ Vicky is a ledge! Love Tiff too 😬

  • @MyTrucker55
    @MyTrucker55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    now thats a stunning pair of .....cars

  • @massimilianozeni1848
    @massimilianozeni1848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    if the gt 86 was tested with the primacy (it must have since it came with those tires only back then) it didn't stand a chance with a car which probably wore sport cup. Same tire and it would run within a second of the megane being more fun and preparing you for a future sport car with more power (RWD). Having said so Vicky s legs looked really good in this one ahahah

    • @minimumtrade
      @minimumtrade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Meganes came with Pilot Sport 2 or Bridgestone RE050A. Only the final 275 variants had Cup tyres as an option in some markets.

    • @massimilianozeni1848
      @massimilianozeni1848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@minimumtrade I see, but still, the primacy are eco tires, terrible in terms of grip, the gt 86 also has more like 180hp when dynoed. How many second gap would you reckon there are in between the two cars on this track. I don t know the track I just guess the time gap per minutes between a track day tire and a primacy

    • @supposedly6991
      @supposedly6991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@massimilianozeni1848 Their megane didn't have cup chassis which is essential if you want to drive on track... How dreadful

    • @lukekindred1999
      @lukekindred1999 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@supposedly6991 the one in the video is a cup

    • @bat33.12
      @bat33.12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@minimumtrade The megane is on 19's in this clip, it has the red stripe on the rim, so it's on Bridgestones, almost every test back in the day said they were much better handling cars on 18's with Michelins. Evo ran an RS 265 for 6 months on 19's and 6 months on 18's and concluded 19's were only good for looks, personally I think the 19" Steev's look awful compared to stock 18" tibors

  • @angxiang3186
    @angxiang3186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👋 Vickie, 👍 on the Megane. Love your drift n poise ❤️

  • @davieheartattack
    @davieheartattack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Would like to see Tiff do a lap in the Megane, just to get a better lap reference

  • @carlossixtysix
    @carlossixtysix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir Drift-A-Lot... hahaha! Spot on Vicky

  • @mikadavies660
    @mikadavies660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Every episode of 5th Gear is always full of proper testing, energetic driving and sound advice. Year after year this team delivers.

  • @randomtapesbymaroof2686
    @randomtapesbymaroof2686 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the soundtrack sound familiar? 1:05

  • @edwinjoseph2163
    @edwinjoseph2163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    this is more testing the individual driver's skill instead of the capabilities of the car...if they wanted real results they would have have switched drivers each rounds or something...

    • @supposedly6991
      @supposedly6991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This test is completely irrelevant, no cup chassis for this megane plus vicki doesn't drive as well as tiff. Utterly useless testing.

    • @edwinjoseph2163
      @edwinjoseph2163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@supposedly6991 yeah I’ve always hated their reviews. I’ve watched many of them to see how they conduct the reviews but it’s almost like they have something against the meganes.

  • @babisotonggg
    @babisotonggg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Should have swap driver every other round .
    fwd vs rwd on kinda drifting thngy? Wth?

  • @ashzciwobuz1277
    @ashzciwobuz1277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who owns the same Megane I'll agree that the handbrake is kinda crappy. Also I agree, that limiter comes up really quick when it kicks in. Otherwise it's a beautiful car to drive.

  • @LoftechUK
    @LoftechUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m still giggling. Brilliant 😂

  • @ChasingDifferentAdventures
    @ChasingDifferentAdventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's rear wheel for me, and Toyota is the only one available in the USA, California 👦🏻👍🏻🏁🏎

  • @TheDJCARNIVAL
    @TheDJCARNIVAL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A fun non-serious comparison obviously. If Tiff was driving both and doing a proper track time comparison the RS would demolish the GT everytime. Being able to drift a car is only one element of fun, the RS in Cup and non-cup is still bags of driver loving fun and much more capable, plus easily upgraded to be even more powerful. GT is more comparable to a Clio RS. Both great drivers cars.

  • @andrewmccullough9334
    @andrewmccullough9334 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tiff is a god damn legend

  • @supposedly6991
    @supposedly6991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    GT86 carries more speed through the corners 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's ridiculous how untrue it is. I bet RS 265 cup can go at least 30-40 kmh faster in every corner before that gt86 breaks traction.

    • @user-gd5kz4te2n
      @user-gd5kz4te2n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      cope

    • @broshido2745
      @broshido2745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The 86 has prius tires what do you expect, but better tires and the renault has no chance in the corners, simple physics you know

    • @edwinjoseph2163
      @edwinjoseph2163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@broshido2745 u realise the Megane is made for corners…

    • @danielkyllo4121
      @danielkyllo4121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@edwinjoseph2163 lol, and the 86 isn't? 🤦‍♂️

    • @ResevoirGod
      @ResevoirGod 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tell you can’t drive without telling me you can’t drive

  • @anthonyl4894
    @anthonyl4894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’d love to see it go up against the upcoming Toyota GT86

    • @mattsamuels3607
      @mattsamuels3607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GR86 & it’ll be close 👀👍🏼

    • @supposedly6991
      @supposedly6991 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rwd in non supercars just isn't totally right. Unintentional oversteer is very dangerous and annoying, sure your reflex (if you are a good driver) will sort that out by counter steering, modulating throttle input and so on but still you don't want to have any possibility of unintentional oversteer at all... Rwd is best suited for track focused supercars, you can't see them unintentionally oversteering because they have so much grip...

    • @largelampard3721
      @largelampard3721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@supposedly6991 Nah, luxury cars are all rwd. Fwd can not be as comfortable as rwd through corners at the same speed.
      Fwd is only good with hot hatch or kei cars due to the short body.

  • @Stallzyx
    @Stallzyx ปีที่แล้ว

    6:39 RIP Sabine

  • @chandu8081
    @chandu8081 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Megane RS is a killer if you kill with it.

  • @scottnewlands628
    @scottnewlands628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    totally distracted by vbh legs!

    • @ItsJak3FromStateFarm
      @ItsJak3FromStateFarm ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This brothers starving

    • @HeyitsMartyn
      @HeyitsMartyn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But weird but ok

    • @Jetdot37
      @Jetdot37 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Creep

    • @pigupigu
      @pigupigu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would

  • @walterfuller4661
    @walterfuller4661 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What car?

  • @richardsmith9509
    @richardsmith9509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Vicki looks great in tights !!!!!

    • @demon1954
      @demon1954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stockings and suspenders, surely?

    • @demon1954
      @demon1954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blonde?
      Gorgeous?
      Naughty?
      Loves cars?
      Understands cars?
      Proper quick driver?
      Please apply here.

  • @tyebando5123
    @tyebando5123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Their incompetence in doing these tests were painful to watch

  • @nisancashi2241
    @nisancashi2241 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my pick defenily the megane. gorgeous legs Vick

  • @sunilayya8948
    @sunilayya8948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the gt86 made by subaru for toyota?

  • @jledge8715
    @jledge8715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see that renault still can't make a gearbox 😂

  • @JRosey777
    @JRosey777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A fun not serious test. This is a Apple vs orange test. If the cars were similar power and weight you would see RWD cleanup. Just imagine if you detuned the boost on the Megane RS to 200hp or the new 2.4 86 was tested? Still most young people have grow up on FWD and manufactures build there performance vehicles of those platforms. RWD is basically dead except for a few cases, sigh 😔

    • @B__L
      @B__L 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Turbo GT86's making around 300hp with the "standard" track mods i.e. Coilovers, wider wheels and tyres, better brakes etc. Do almost identical lap times to Meganes with similar mods. They're both extremely capable cars.

  • @oootaffooo501
    @oootaffooo501 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The RS cheap GT3 nothing will beat a Renault Sport on the track for the money.

  • @fillman86
    @fillman86 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:37 as an owner of an 86 I can't disagree with "deserves it victory" more haha
    it's slow, and handles better than a boat... Tiff is clearly the better driver, and struggled to win (note using the handbrake for the reverse 180 and more). No shame or anything, but this feels staged, or they would have swapped cars

  • @cameraprepper7938
    @cameraprepper7938 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn´t you chose the newest Renault Mégane 1.8 R.S. 300 Trophy !? And why not the newest Toyota GR86 !?

    • @gpajic1987
      @gpajic1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because it's an older test and those didn't exist

  • @ripptorr
    @ripptorr ปีที่แล้ว

    oh Vicki...

  • @robertebob3596
    @robertebob3596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Missed most of the first test oggling at Vickys thighs , shes lovely.

  • @supposedly6991
    @supposedly6991 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's completely pointless if it's not cup version of Megane... How on earth do you not the cup megane with proper lsd instead of that understeering machine

  • @Hyfun7
    @Hyfun7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Old wine in old bottles.... No problem!

  • @CedricFlavien-bd8vc
    @CedricFlavien-bd8vc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Toyota with Mégane engine,=fun

  • @pyrho1
    @pyrho1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    poor Vicky has to listen to Tiff mansplain her lap

  • @samgarrod4781
    @samgarrod4781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh I miss scary tree.

  • @cotzker
    @cotzker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss her...

  • @georgegard.aka.currymonste1498
    @georgegard.aka.currymonste1498 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my humble opinion vicky is the fastest thing on the track

  • @JuanAntonEgo
    @JuanAntonEgo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The French know how to build them hatchbacks no doubt. But il still get the 86. 😁

  • @after_midnight9592
    @after_midnight9592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This Megane can easily be remapped to 300 HP, which is something most owners do.
    86 can't match that turbo power.

    • @michaelteofilo5204
      @michaelteofilo5204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Unless you strap a turbo to it

    • @LP640Murcielago
      @LP640Murcielago 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelteofilo5204 they have a history of blowing up when turbo'd or supercharged. Usually an engine swap with that chassis is best. Awesome car though and that's coming from an RS265 owner

    • @supposedly6991
      @supposedly6991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also RS has a much more capable chassis than GT86. RS is a much more capable, much better handling car.

    • @richboy900
      @richboy900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Renault has way more torque with the turbo. I'd say the Toyota more fun, but the Renault a more serious track machine

    • @Jinetee
      @Jinetee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@supposedly6991 you are so salty Megane lost the handling tests 😂 get over it

  • @bighes100
    @bighes100 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Megane has the legs.... 😁

  • @N911GT2
    @N911GT2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So you decide the Toyota is better because you made two test up where it excels. Great testing. Completely unbiased. 😂

    • @Shay-eo5kp
      @Shay-eo5kp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its more fun, I think this is enough

    • @elysian3623
      @elysian3623 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shay-eo5kp owning a modded megane 250 cup and comparing to my mates trd gt86, we both agree the well sorted meg will make you shit yourself

    • @Shay-eo5kp
      @Shay-eo5kp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@elysian3623 You can only compare stock VS stock or modded VS modded otherwise it looses the point

    • @elysian3623
      @elysian3623 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shay-eo5kp doesn't make much difference, the Meg stock was still scary, faster than his supercharged type r he had before, point being that in this test which had a car made for fun vs a car made to tackle tracks quickly they had a fwd car trying to drift, the fun of the meg comes differently and it depends what you want but since his TRD came with the hks supercharger my point remains valid yes?

  • @rhysholley8289
    @rhysholley8289 ปีที่แล้ว

    With a better driver could easily have been 2-1 the other way

  • @endlesstwisties
    @endlesstwisties 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At least Gt86 doesn't look awful

  • @gman7692
    @gman7692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    VBH aggressive flicking. Mmmm.......

  • @markcompton6750
    @markcompton6750 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just how old is this?

    • @blatantlyjohn6234
      @blatantlyjohn6234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Late 2012

    • @Bogdan00
      @Bogdan00 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blatantlyjohn6234 lol why they post it 9 years later?

  • @petermartin9494
    @petermartin9494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But the GT86 is no longer in production... The GR86 is even better.

    • @Chair991
      @Chair991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ok and?

    • @petermartin9494
      @petermartin9494 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chair991 Just in case you are unaware.

  • @rooben6741
    @rooben6741 ปีที่แล้ว

    FWD cars will always lose out for drift style slides, particularly up against RWD cars, so this test in particular was pretty much biased and unfair. To state the FWD Megane lost to the RWD Toyota in a test which favoured the Toyota is a bit cheesy. Bottom line: The Megane spanked the 86 on the fastest lap test where it matters. Simple.

  • @blademanx
    @blademanx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rear wheel drive all day long

  • @simonxant
    @simonxant 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Renault will burn a hole thru your pockets

  • @adrian5401
    @adrian5401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to do a few laps with Vicky, bet she is a real beast when in high gear.

  • @thephantomarse
    @thephantomarse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta go back nine years for some decent fifth gear
    Don't know what's going on with the electric cars or rubbish new presenters

  • @marcov4190
    @marcov4190 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sabine...

  • @tomaszbudnik521
    @tomaszbudnik521 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    FWD will be always worse proposal than RWD.
    FWD was introduced to cars as is faster, easier and cheaper to build for car makers. That's only advantage of FWD over RWD.

  • @asharma9345
    @asharma9345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No audio.
    Kindly re upload.

    • @DashCamSerbia
      @DashCamSerbia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There is audio.

    • @rdmz135
      @rdmz135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      time for new headphones?

  • @owenad385
    @owenad385 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im sorry but whos drifting a megane

  • @getphuked2
    @getphuked2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's the POWER , that's all. I HATE HATCHBACKS.
    My MS3 286 torque, YOU CAN'T MAKE A FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
    (( POWER )) SLIDE.

  • @mistreku
    @mistreku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    RWD always better, no matter what makes you sleep at night. FWD is just the equivalent of P/C in automotive terms.

    • @JustAGameShow
      @JustAGameShow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Try telling that to the M5/Merc AMG baseball capped fanboys who couldn't keep up with my friends 1.6 RS Clio in the Yorkshire Dales last weekend... 😎

    • @nissanoo0393
      @nissanoo0393 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustAGameShow haha all these high power saloons and suv eat shit on proper yorkshire b roads LOW WEIGHT :DD

  • @phase3ute
    @phase3ute 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s the worst comparison I’ve ever seen. I’ve owned both and tracked both. These 2 are worlds apart in handling. The megane is that much quicker it’s not even funny. Do you see the Toyota even close to a megane around the Nürburgring. Nope. It’s like comparing a megane to a gt3 rs. Just ludicrous

  • @Nick-Emery
    @Nick-Emery 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    VBH is a good driver, but she doesn't know how to J turn a Fwd car

  • @dubiousmike
    @dubiousmike 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its nice to see senior citizens reviewing cars. Out of touch, but sweet.

    • @cdb5001
      @cdb5001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Out of touch is someone focusing on age and blind to see the quality of the presenters. Shallow and pathetic.

  • @pedrammaymand3195
    @pedrammaymand3195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vicky and the way she drives that Megane is just dreadful. In this Test, Megane's strength here is the G turn and she uses the handbrake to do that, and each time comes to a dead stop and again accelerates from that dead stop with the FWD. that is just dreadful!

  • @ae747sp5
    @ae747sp5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 0 or 2.4 in the Toyota?

  • @5thgen418
    @5thgen418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You both could be good 5 sec faster in lap if you were not talking
    And I don't understand why I keep hurting my heart by watching cars because I can't afford any right now until I hit a lottery

    • @Garf2O
      @Garf2O 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1 probably not even that much and 2 if you need to hit a lottery just to get a used BRZ then you got some issues mate

    • @verygoodbrother
      @verygoodbrother 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well the whole point of the tv show is to present the cars to an audience so not describing the experience would defeat the purpose of the show.

  • @mistertoet200
    @mistertoet200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Toyota all the way

  • @stephaneroger686
    @stephaneroger686 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sexy la pilote !

  • @supposedly6991
    @supposedly6991 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally irrelevant test done in wet and with different drivers. Megane is much more capable

  • @samgarrod4781
    @samgarrod4781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thighs all the way

  • @robertlloyd7493
    @robertlloyd7493 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @aliffadel2658
    @aliffadel2658 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hai

  • @stoneisland6789
    @stoneisland6789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vic's dress would look better in my 265rs 🤪🤪

  • @itsyourAGS
    @itsyourAGS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    40th liker and first comment 😉😎

  • @williamhardes8081
    @williamhardes8081 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i can end the argument in ten seconds. buy an Audi..

    • @Orjan06
      @Orjan06 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah😂

  • @rubrown1397
    @rubrown1397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Firs comment

  • @adobereviews1626
    @adobereviews1626 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The little shelf curiously cough because cafe developmentally support after a joyous chive. unusual, sweltering amusement

  • @13coyote13
    @13coyote13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a Subaru, same as the Celica is a BMW as the Toyota Yaris is a Mazda.

    • @Kim_Miller
      @Kim_Miller 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only partly true. Designed by a Toyota engineer, Toyota transmission and Toyota specially designed diff, Subaru motor with Toyota designed intake setup and sump, built in Subaru factory with lots of bits, lights etc, branded with Subaru name. It was always a Toyota concept and they had to talk Subaru into taking part.

  • @adambarrs92
    @adambarrs92 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is just a stupid test

  • @steve75112
    @steve75112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Femininism strikes again! This is a MAN'S channel. Vicky is here purely for eye candy----BRING BACK TIFF!

  • @matthewking5612
    @matthewking5612 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    GT86 shit engine.

  • @vtheruthless1v898
    @vtheruthless1v898 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Women drivers 😂

  • @memeguyTM
    @memeguyTM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Renault is better. Driver was the problem 😆

  • @supposedly6991
    @supposedly6991 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tiff is clearly a much better driver especially in that first test where vicki showed little to no skills whatsoever, god how women can't drive

    • @user-gd5kz4te2n
      @user-gd5kz4te2n 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a souped up fwd econobox you third worlder misogynist