DEWALT 18v XR Cordless Polishers Review | Major Force Steps out the Shadows
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Been waiting for this one for a while. I think you missed a trick though not mentioning the fact that Dewalt is a household name. Many people will already have invested into the Dewalt platform for their drills and saws ect. So the actual price for the weekend warrior is between £160 and £180 right now for the bare tool. This is amazing value when a Das6 Pro is about £130, a corded machine and considered to be a beginners tool. Long story short is this machine is almost half the price of the Flex if you are already invested into the Dewalt eco system.
I did cover this in video and give you examples of rival tools that are cheaper and more expensive. But yer its true if you have dewalt battery tools already you can save lots of money. And the price is very very good. (was also in the video summary main Pros strong price)
DAS6 pro is not a fair comparison though. you have to compare 15 ml throw cordless DA. And DAS6 pro supports 75ml plates, you would need another machine with the Dewalt to give you that capability. bottem of market cordless DA kit is SPTA 150 quid roughly I think. top of market kit is flex 580 quid. Dewalt sits in the middle at 360.
@@ForensicDetailing Hi thanks for the reply and agree about the plate size issue. My bad if I missed somthing but I dont remember you mentioning the ease of access people have to the Dewalt eco system which I think is a major plus in my opinion. I'm not sure if the flex 🤔 has other tools available. I know your review was based on a like for like comparison but I am just getting into this as a hobby and the fact I already have Dewalt bateries determined wether I would buy a polisher or not. I literally just pressed the button on a bare tool version off Ebay with a 20% offer for £135.00 i just could not help myself 😄 keep up the good work I really enjoy your channel.
@@darrensaquaticsworld fair play daz all good points mate thank you for taking the time to watch and feedback appreciate it.
I just got one of the DA polishers for myself and am absolutely in love with it! I have had numerous Dewalt 20v tools already so I had 6 batteries on hand and only had to get the bare tool which made a much easier decision to make and I am very happy with the choice. Thanks for the review helped with my decision. Love your channel!
thanks John its a powerfull DA and good value as well.
This has been one of the best reviews I’ve seen for tools.
Excellent level of information, John. Highly appreciate your enthusiasm and meticulous approach to things.
Much appreciated
Thanks for taking the time to review the tools so thoroughly, really interesting. Would be good to hear your views if you can get your hands on the newly released Ryobi battery DA too!
incredible level of detail in your review. thank you.
I bought the DeWalt cordless DA polisher and used it for the first time today. I’m very impressed with its performance.
whats its like now, 2 years since first using it
Excited for this video. Ordered the da yesterday and just taken delivery this morning. For anyone looking to buy one, the cheapest I could find was eBay. There is a 20% off coupon at the moment. Worked out £135 delivered.
Would you have a link please.
peeps cant reply with links due to spam filters on YT. But search ebay for this tool from supplier powertoolmate using code PURCHASE20.
FFX have DA thats where I ordered mine from the day before this video went out and they accept the 20% code too
Glad someone finally reviewed these. I've had both the rotary and da for a while now and love them both. Only problem I have is the weight distribution when I'm using the fat 6ah battery. 5ah or 4ah is preferable for balance.
Have a Flex Gear driven Dewalt Cordless dual action and a Rupes Bigfoot. Detailing for 25 year’s. Do about 4-5 details a day in my business. I find myself using the dewalt 70% of the time. I have two 4amp batteries. By the time one battery is done. The other is charged. I can keep swapping. I love it for finishing and mild polishing work. It’s amazing. Super smooth.
Very very in-depth review. Some great ideas on how to improve the machine.
Great video once again👍🏻🚗 learned alot watching your channel so thank you for that and keep up the great work.
Thanks 👍
Your reviews are simply World Class!
Just to add, Jon, in my real world experience with the 848, I've been able to polish out (AIO) mid-size sedans and smaller SUVs using two 4.0ah, and one 3.0ah batteries. Just barely. Haven't had to charge on a job. I do plan on getting some 5.0ah batteries, though. Christmas specials :)
Great review. I’ve been looking at getting the 848 but as I have carpal tunnel the information about the vibration is really useful
Great review I have been waiting for dewalt to enter the machine polishing World I have all dewalt tools and will now be adding the dual action to them as battery on other tools make it even cheaper for me to buy. Keep up the good work👍😊
I was glad to see your reviews as I already have a DeWalt cordless drill with two batteries and a charger. Thank you for the excellent, highly informative review!
Thank you for the information. It was useful
Your comparison video’s are always fair John and give bags of info, in fact on the strength of your recommendations I brought the Flex nano and da polishers not that long ago. I must admit I like the idea of adding a light to the polisher (regardless of make) but I’m not sure about the paint depth gauge and the temperature gauge as I’d be dubious about the readings particularly lugging a large polisher about to test the depth of the paint and then the the temperature gauge being corrupted by the heat from the machine itself, for me sometimes certain things just need to be independent. That said I’m not for one minute suggesting I’m right it would just be a personal preference of mine. That said great video as always mate👍🏻
I've had my 848 for a couple of months now. It an awesome machine. Was able to polish my Ram 1500 with 2 5AH batteries. Doing heavier correction definitely needs more. As for the charger...I think if DeWalt included their fast charger instead of this one it would help emmensily. I have it and can easily charge a drained battery well before the other runs out. The best thing about this tool is it's as powerful as a corded machine....which is heads above other cordless long throw offerings.
@Damon W hard to say.... however I've never had an issue with one battery running out before the other one is charged. It will depend on how you use it though... Speed, pressure etc. But it's an awesome machine!!
..🤔 I make only sunroof with heavy compound, 4000rpm and 2x 5mAh batteries.
Needs 10x 5mAh batteries for whole car with heavy compounds.
honest, proper, review thank you.
Excellent review, thank you. I was trying to decide what to purchase as my first polisher and also was it worth getting the cordless version. As a result of this review I’ve just placed the order. Thanks again.
Good vidoe, thanks. Been considering buying the DeWalt polisher
Now this is a review… good job mate!
Nice video Jon I was thinking to get the DA body as I have Dewalt cordless tools already.
Hey, take note that the vibration in the table that you put them should increse the noise meter. So you need to do it suspended way, not touching the same surface
What a review! Really forensic
Thanks for the review. Really nice!
I was looking for one in this level of meticulousity before I buy mine.
I ended buying anyway (the cordless rotary), and I couldn´t be happier with it. Super light compared to the corded version and super quiet as well.
The only 2 things I miss from the corded version: 600rpm velocity and M14 Spindle Thread.
Just a little curiosity: In Brazil they came with 20V batteries an the Spindle Thread is 5/8" on our version.
We still don't have the cordless DA Polisher from DeWalt over here, sadly.
Nice complete review!
DeWalt makes a double charging station. I use a lot of Dewalt tools myself. I have several of the drills, saws, blowers and I have both of these tools your reviewing. I even have the push lawn mower they make. DeWalt is a great company.
I was just watching the part where your talking about charge times and possibly needing a third battery and second charger. You are very correct. I have the Milwaukee version. I hard use that machine, and a third battery is a must if you don't use the rapid charger. I literally just bought this dewalt version and got three batteries and a rapid charger. The manufacturer run times are ridiculous. If your cutting sand scratches out of a paint job like I do, you might get half a panel done before the battery is half dead. I always charge mine when they are half full. It's much easier on the battery, and they last longer.
Excellent review very detailed and looks good for strong home user that it is very powerful and affordable . The DA kit runs $449 vs Flex Kit $566 . So your price difference is much better then here in the US,
Great review on these polisher’s
Great video to watch thank you. Can you use these for sanding too with appropriate accessories?
not really no the orbit is too agressive you want a specific sander for paintwork. mirka or rupes or flex do them not sure if devalt do this.
I use the dewalt cordless da cordless, after 12 months of use it really is a great product to use, highly recommended.
The only negative is it can be a bit heavy to use.
The force is strong with this one. Rotation too.
Jon, having looked at these kits. The reason why your charger is not listed in the manual is because the kits are normally supplied with the DCB115 charger, which is a 4Amp. Dewalt sent you the higher 6Amp charger, the DCM116. I would imagine that this affects the charge times.
Great explanation of these machines, I’m looking to upgrade my das6 to a cordless machine, would of been great if you had done a review on the Ryobi cordless offering too ?
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Great review! So would u use the Flex cordlessforced rotation or the Dewalt DA?
for me I stay forced rotation
Hands dwn great review 👏 thks 🎖
Nice video and comparison.
SPTA also has cordless polishers
That DA Polisher is a long time coming from a company like Dewalt. I hope Milwaukee tools comes out with one too, all the rest of my powertools are Milwaukee so I've got several batteries around
yes its a market that may well have been too small for them who knows. This touches on what I said at the end, I really hope Dewalt bring us more and bring some new ideas or pieces of innovation within the detailing remit.
Hi John. Love all the videos. I am thinking of buying my first da. I was thinking of this as I already have the batteries. If it is just for me cleaning my own car do you think its a waste. Will I be removing clear coat every time or is it used to just polish and wax with no correction.
If u have batteries then yer the 848x is way to go.
Great review Jon ,I've just got the ok for my first polish as a Christmas present I was set on the DA8 after you recommendation. However, I have a couple of small batteries and charger, so now need to decide which to go for. Is the only downside of the DA8 the cord getting in the way, or is the Dewalt a superior tool?
so the DW has a more agressive orbit. the DW is havier with the battery. And you will need 3 batteries really or you may get downtime. the DW does not support 75ml plates. tool only cost of DW is 180 quid roughly.
So really you need to decide if you want cordless or corded and if you want smaller plate flexibility.
@@ForensicDetailing Great thank you Jon, i'll have a think, as like you say being able to change to a small plate is a good thing. i dare say Dewalt will bring out a smaller machine, rather than a smaller plate for this tool.
Another great video, ironically ordered DA last night! Glad you seem to rate it reasonably well makes me think it was a good choice given I've got plenty of Dewalt batteries. I've been looking for a paint depth gauge nothing to fancy any recommendations on a basic but reliable depth gauge for use on metal? Cheers
send it back or refuse delivery, buy makita forced rotation dpo600z with adapter for dewalt batteries if You have them for example
Hi, great in-depth video John! Can I ask whats the size of the included bag? Is it the 18", 24", or a different size? does it fit in the bag with the battery attached?
imnot sure about the bag size but the one I got fits like 4 of these tools in it no problem.
Have you tried the 3.5 inch backing plate you can buy on this
At 44 minutes you went to dream land John 😂 all this would of course be great!, but then the batteries need to keep up EVEN more, luckily for me I have up to 9ah de W alt batteries + charger - being a chippy, so these would be really great value for the likes of me.
Absolute intrinsic review brother 👌
Great review. If they could figure out the vibration issue on the da with better balancing maybe, sounds like a possible winner.
Great review Jon but the biggest reason why I will stick with my Flex polishers and tools is the battery system.I have 4 flex chargers but only need 2 as I can use the same battery in a polisher,drill or light!.
Price point on the Dewalt is excellent though.
This is a dream of a tool if you already have the DeWalt 18v cordless kit with batteries a plenty 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
if you have the batteries already you are laughing really some guy said you can get the tool only on ebay for 130 quid right now.
@@ForensicDetailing I think I paid there abouts to £165 for the dual action back in the summer and use it with the the flexvolt batteries mainly. Adds a bit more weight but it just keeps going!
@@jsouto77 same here even the 6ah standard batteries i have go for hours
would you try the ryobi if you can get it when it comes out
At last. My van is full of dewalt cordless tools, been waiting for a decent DA from dewalt.
Hope its not too pricy bare.
Ok £199 amaz pretty good value, just ordered it.
£170 on ebay. Couple of 5.0 Ah Li-ion batteries for £47 but you probably don't need them.
Just starting to look at “properly” washing and finishing my car and will be on a tight budget..
I’ve Really enjoyed your videos so far with reviews from budget to high end pros/cons...
I Have previously just “polished” by hand as I have no electric sockets close to where I wash the car, so cordless tools look like a viable option if I go to the powered polishers..
I’ve been looking at the Ryobi one tool (as I already have other Ryobi one DIY tools) - R18P-0 cordless polisher, currently going for £89.26 with an online store as a possible option, looked at some reviews with mixed opinions...
Speed range is claimed to be 2500-7500rpm with 8mm orbit....
What would your opinion be or perhaps consider a polisher “shoot-out” (corded/cordless, budget/high end)?
so the ryobi is 89 pounds. its also a 8 mm throw DA. If you have ryobi tools and the battery already. This tool on the surface of it makes a lot of sense and the price is great. Ive not used the tool but my advice is go for it. you will get like 1-2 years warrenty on it if its not good then sell it in 2 years time for 50-60 quid. I really hate cords now. I actually find myself reaching for this devalt DA a lot now.
Ha... I was waiting for this video after seeing them in the background of your last vid :) good stuff. Still using my DWP 849X, it is heavy but always gets the job done 👍
Fantastic video john! I was looking at one of these and now you have answered all the questions. #☆☆☆☆☆review
Hello mate, one of your old vids is karcher patio cleaner upside down cleaning undercarriage, where did u get the wheels connection on the patio cleaner from?
hey justin theres no wheels I just it upside down and thats it mate.
Unbelievable.
Bought the DA yesterday, lol.
Only a hobby detailer , and never used a polisher before. But my old shoulders struggle with a good paste wax buff now , so i have purchased this primarily for waxing and a little very light polishing with either autoglym or Bilt hamber cleanser polish. Really looking forward to having a go over the next few weeks.
I only decided to go for a polisher after watching your channel. You should be due some commission !
Any recommendations for what pads to buy to go with the machine ?
Keep up the good work.
I would recomend flex purples for cutting of single stage on hard paints or flex orange for polishing and single stage on soft paints. You could also look at the red scholl concepts ninja pads (use like the purples) and scholl ninja blue for polishing.
can't wait for the review on shinemate random orbital polisher on battery
Love the vids jon, would u rather use this or the flex?
Flex XCE forced rotation is my weapon of choice combo'd up with little PXE for intricate areas.
Thumbs up straight away for the trademark daft intro😂
Have you ever reviewed the Shinemate ? Would be interested in a comparison
Excellent thank you.
Hello, I would like to know if the Dewalt DCM848b polisher can be fitted with a rotating brush to wash, mattresses, furniture, carpets?
Da is no good for that m8 drill bit brush is way to go.
A Dutch company called HBM has a cordless one as well, dirtcheap btw. oh and Liquid Elements also had 2 cordless ones...
Im watching what i can with these but im really confused as my uses are for a boat ?
What would be best option for a boat and gelcoat being what it is and paint does the the same issue apply?
I can only afford one and have used rotary cord type but probably didnt look to hard at final results as was heavily oxidised ?
so I would go for the dual action mate. you can polish the gel coat like paintwork. degrease it and put on a marine ceramic coating.
With the rotary machine do you recommend using a certain backing plate? Cheers
I use flex plates
Also spta have a cordless da for around £150 with 2 batteries and charger it’s supposed to be very good from ALIEXPRESS miranda detailing uses it and rates it
I have a Ram 1500 truck and I am noticing quite a few very tiny rust dots in the paint. About the size of a grain of sand. What would this be caused by and what's the best way to repair it?
that sounds like someone has been using a grinder near the car. and hot sparks have landed on the paintwork and burnt it. I am guessing though... But I bet your truck has been in a bodyshop at some point and they got sloppy (thats a guess though) you will struggle to get them out if Im correct.
Try the flexvolt batteries I have regular 6ah and i can complete s single stage paint correction with 1 to two bars car size dependent of course. THe unit does smooth out with regular use its just dewalts overbuilding and tight tolerances need to break in a bit.
Does anyone know if you can put a 3” backplate on the Dewalt cordless DA? If so, is it standard fitting?
hi there it does not support 3 inch plates.
Simply Amazing
I'm still on the edge here of buying one of these.... Not sure if it won't be too slow for bodyshop use.
We're did you get the smaller polisher head for the rotary machine?
Flex power tools do all size plates m8 M14 fitment
I've used this for polishing ships bells and my god it does the job lol
Nothing like a shiny bell
holy moly this was complete, nice nice. I want to buy a cordless DA, I like the Flex a bit better, but Flex only charger's only for a single battery. Would be a pain if you constantly had 2-4 batteries you needed to charge. Dewalt + 4 batteries + 4 battery charger ftw.
And the weight would suck, but the Dewalt would be a beast with a 12ah battery.
yer thats key DW = beast mode heavy but powerfull goes through charge. XFE = light, but less grunt less vibration stalls easier but runs for longer.
The one big plus with Dewalt is many people will have other tools so already have the 18V 5a batteries. The rotary (bare) was £150 over Christmas, the DA another tenner. Both tools for £310 if you already have batteries :)
Where do you guys find these prices? In Norway im at about £500 for the macine, charger and battery.
Would love to get two bare machines for 310!
@@b1dikoe the prices are for the BARE units, look at "buyaparcel" or "powertoolmate", now these are around £170 each, in the sales were cheaper. Just shop around.
@@rockfan3299 nice, will check it out. Im buying a big Dewalt powertool package, so i have no use for extra charger or batteries.
John or anyone else, can anyone tell me just for clarification does the dual action version have the ability to change backing plates to an aftermarket different size like a 3"? I know you said there's not Dewalt 6" back pad avaliable but wasn't sure if it was possible to use an alternative brands if it was a universal 5/8" thread or if its a fixed unit?? Thanks
the Dewalt DA only supports the 125 mm propriatory plate that comes with it.
@@ForensicDetailing thanks for the reply, now I'm wondering what to pair it with for detailed work with a smaller pad. Maybe I should get the dewalt rotary too?? 🤦♂️ 😂
Thanks for making this video I am looking to buy one of these at the moment. Does anyone know if I can fit a 6" backing plate? I tend to use 3m polishing pads as I'm from a Bodyshop background
cheers rob. rotary yes. the DA supports only the fitted 125mm 5 inch plate.
@@ForensicDetailing awsome thank you. Love your red m140i by the way! Best colour by far
Brilliant review, if you already have a selection of Dewalt cordless tools and batteries and you buy them battery less, it’s seems like they are a bargain.
The BIG plus with DeWalt is that you can use your existing batteries and charger from your DeWalt drills.
Hi John, I know a lot of people already make requests and tools might be expensive for you to get your hands on for review, but I would love a comparison between the DeWalt DA and the Makita 18V DPO600 cordless DA. The Makita has a short throw but it does have an optional forced rotation mode which would be nice in the one tool for cutting, polishing and applying a nice paste wax afterwards.
you cant really compare these tools as such. Or its like doing a car comparison of a VW caddy versus a Honda Accord. its not really like for like if one is free spinning and other is a forced rotation primarily.
@@ForensicDetailing Thank you for the reply John! I am intending to get the Makita as I have limited storage space and having the extra capability of forced rotation on a larger cordless machine will be very nice, paired perhaps with a small corded SPTA DA for tighter areas. The Flex are just too far out of my price range, especially as for the combination you favour one needs two different battery sizes. If I get one before I see a review on your channel, you are welcome to borrow it for testing and review.
Does anyone know if I can fit a 75mm plate to the DA please?
you cant james.
the dewalt uses a proprietary backing plate it doesn't interchange with standard plates.
Trying to find this model to purchase but I can't find one that has 5000opms on the speed setting, they all go to 2200
Hello. I am a beginner and I want to know your recommendation, rotary or orbital?
Thanks for your video
Da mate see picking the right machine polisher video
Will you be reviewing the Ryobi r18p-0 cordless DA at any stage?
if its UK available I might take a look. I have to also ask ryobi to allow me to review it and send me one becase the review prolly makes 10 pounds revenue only.
You can buy pattern dewalt batteries for £20-28 just as good as the originals, I have first hand experience of this
I've had my Dewalt DA for almost 8 months now, I luv it
Just bought my Dewalt 848 and gothering pads and polishes now..
I’d love to own one of these Dewalt. I already have a cordless drill and jigsaw that use the same battery so it make sense,but my other half says £180 for the bare tool is too much especially as it’s only going to be used on my own car (Honda CRV) So my question is: what is the best £100 DA Polisher available? I’ve cut it down to 2 - Auto Finesse MPX and the In2detailing DA8
Either m8 really
Wow ! This is an super review . This is exactly what need to know.! Author thanks you very much for this TECHNICAL review, no bullshit bla bla bla.. Thanks a lot for the technical review including Noice and Battery life !
Great Vs review. The Dewalt DA can be picked up for £166 and two 5ah batteries for £110. £276 is a bargain.
I've had the Dewalt DA sat in my garage for a couple of months now, completely brand new and unused! I think it's time to fire it up!!!
I think DeWalt are just keeping up with the likes of Makita etc as they are more construction tools,they have to tweak it and if people have DeWalt tools it's going to be half price due to them having batteries and chargers and handle grips,very good review all the same👍
So for those of us already using DeWalt battery tools this seems an absolute no brainer.
ebay have a 75mm 3" pad backing plate. and a 100mm 4" for DCM848. I am guessing it is not made by dewalt, Would using the 75mm have any issues like counter weight not set for it ect? i do not own a polisher so would not know if it would work as it should. without a small backing pad it puts me off buying one . thanks
counter weight is a bit of an issue you will get more vibration and less spin but its ok. fitment is important Im not sure if it will fit.
@ForensicDetailing thanks for the reply. They do link to a TH-cam video to show it.
I'm in no rush to buy. It would have been more to buff out chip/scratch so small is better
Hi John, I really enjoyed this review. How does the Dewalt DA compare to the Milwaukee M18 DA? Have you tried/tested the Milwaukee? Thanks
i think its the same mate literally
@ForensicDetailing Thanks for the reply! Now I just need to decide which ecosystem to invest in as I don't have any power tools from either company. Which way would you go? Thanks
well in UK I think milwaukee is not so big. I went with flex because they have more cordless polishing tools and lighting and vacuums and blowers that use the batteries.
@ForensicDetailing Ah ok 👍🏼. Which Flex did you go for? I need a cordless polisher. Have you done a video on it? Appreciate all your help and advice!
@ForensicDetailing Just found your video on the Flex polishers. Will watch it in a bit 👍🏼
My greenworks dualaction with 24V 4Ah li-ion works... as I don't like to work enymore 😉. Last week I buy 2Ah batt and next time need to use that one 😂. I'm just lazy one rocky so 4Ah its like for you or some pro
Have you ever tried the Milwaukee cordless 7" rotary? It advertises "constant power", so I'd be surprised if it slowed down under normal load.
not tried mate.
Have it, never bogs down. Awesome unit. Nice balance, it is however heavy versus the dewalt rotary.
Regarding the batteries, are you realistically going to be polishing at max speed, with max pressure, for 30 mins straight? You'll have points of running at a lower speed for spreading material, downtime wiping down polish residue and changing/cleaning pads. Also, regarding the charger, I have the DeWalt DCB118 which is an 8a charger (2 more amps than the one you are using), which charges my 5ah batteries in 45-50 mins. This charger costs about £35 and is well worth the investment.
I think taking all of this into account, running a 2 battery system is more than achievable.
it runs out with about 30 minutes real time use not even at max speed and definetly not polishing continually. 30 minutes real time real world and battery dies. I tested this.
@@ForensicDetailing ok, no probs. Think I misunderstood. I still believe you can run with 2 batteries though, without too much downtime (if any).