Best Cordless Car Polisher Review | Rupes HLR, Flex XFE , Shine Mate EB351
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Quite simply an honest, no nonsense overview. Thank you
Your content is second to none! Thanks for constantly putting out this stuff for us!
Your videos are always so well thought out, never cutting any corners and extremely articulated. Thanks Sandro!
Hello Sandro,
Another great review.👍 I really enjoy your rounded and balanced reviews.👍
All the best, John.
I love all your honest content.
Fantastic video Sandro! Keep up the great work mate.
An excellent review of 3 very successful brands. Like you, I say Rupes will address the trigger, battery, and power issues in the Mark 2 version. I'm glad to see you've still got the Lite Ace. It may be retired from mobile detailing duties, but I bet its still running strong. Cheers Sandro, and have a great weekend my friend.
Rupes is a solid machine. I love it!
Yes, Shinemate is the best in my opinion. The 4 I have are all I use now. Nice video as always.
Great content Sandro as usual. However, there is a dichotomy between these battery powered machines and their traditional 'plug into the wall' counterparts. I've listened to and enjoyed your comments but nothing I've seen will draw me away from my (corded) Rupes Mille. Wherever these cordless machines trip up . . . the Mille catches them. Seamless power and torque. Great ergo with very tolerable db's. It's kinda like electric cars. Many have tested them but the tide is turning back to the traditional. Hope that makes sense. Your a great icon of this industry Sandro and I admire you so much for raising the bar in terms of the knowledge of it and getting valuable information out to all of its participants. Cheers Brett
Amazing comparison. I have the EB351 and I think I'll be sticking with it after watching this review!
Thanks Sandro
Amazing video like always Sandro but I’m patiently waiting for more detailing and polishing content. 😁👍🏽. I’m not a professional detailer but it’s a passion of mine and I enjoy working on my car and family and friends cars as well. I own shinemate polishers and for the price I believe it’s a phenomenal tool. I believe that flex, and especially rupes, you’re only paying for the name and the hype.
Awesome video! I have the Flex XFE15 and overall I do like it and can get quality work done with it. The weight is fatiguing, however I do like that it’s built like a tank. My biggest gripe on the Flex is the crappy speed dial that has no detents and spins too freely. I’m constantly bumping the speed up inadvertently, and that is super annoying. However, I do like the XFE, and I would love to get the Flex PE150 cordless rotary brother to this machine.
That battery position on the Rupes is a deal breaker for me.
I'm very happy with my 15mm and 21mm Rupes machines, no issues at all and I have quickly gotten used to the battery positioning. I'll admit it isn't ideal, but the lightweight, balance and ergonomics of the machine make it possible to maneuver it so that it is not an issue on the majority of cars. They are a vast improvement over my previous Milwaukee cordless machines.
The trigger is also a non-issue for me. I've never really throttled the trigger to spread polish (I think it is a waste of time) so I always go straight to the trigger lock anyways. Apparently it was a late addition after SEMA because people who weren't used to the machine were constantly hitting the trigger while swapping batteries. After the criticism they got for the same issue with the HLR75, I can see why they made the change.
I agree, I sold my Milwaukees for these. These are so erconomic that the battery placement is no big deal although not ideal. I do think that the 15 could use more power, it is less powerful than Milwaukee 15, probably onbar with Shinemate, i should mention that i sanded the shroud from both of my HLR's. The things i dont like with these HLR's is just like Sandro said, there is just too much computer stuff adjusting and making decisions for you. When you have 2/4 of battery, it wont let you use speed 5-6, and only goes like up to 4.5. I wonder why this is since HLR75 is 100% right until the batter is dead. Now i have to switch batter when its at 50-60% because i cant use all the power. Also if i add 5" bp to 21, it vibrates bit more, just like MK3. But its not that bad at all, but the machine things it is. Beaucse if you use speed 6 with 5" bp, the machine sometimes shuts off, i guess it thinks thaat there is too much vibration. What the hell Rupes? You still didnt make 21 compatible with 5" like Shinemate and Milwaukee did. Im starting to think if i should get 12, 15 , 21 and a rotary Shinemate and sell these.
Fair assessment Sandro.
Sandra. On point as always
Sorry, but his name is Sandro. I imagine your autocorrect just changed it😜
I’ve put a washer mod (m8 zinc plated) in the HLR15. It definitely gets rid of any power concerns (didn’t really have any tbh but now it for sure doesn’t stall)
The battery placement is a matter of adjusting technique. That doesn’t mean I’m a fan of it, as my cordless rotary is from flex.
Wow bro can you explain that please, I have the Rupes and it feels amazing, the weight, vibration everything, I bought it cuz I started to have wrist issues, but the stalling it’s so much that I cannot use it most of the times, if it wasn’t for that would be the best machine
I have 4 shinemate cordless units. (Eb210, eb 351 15mm,21mm and eb350 12mm) all are solid machines. This was a great initial offering by Rupes, but that battery sag is a problem. Im really surpised they are sending that out the door like that as an industry leader in polishing machines, and at that price too😮! Im good with my shinemate decision. This was a long overdue video, and im glad you are the one who finally did it Sandro!! Real talk though, how about a 3in cordless video? We know the eb210 walks with that one though😅I d be interested to hear and see your take on it though. Awesome job as always man!!!
Hello Brother, I'm a beginner and looking to get the Shinemate dual action polisher. If I may ask, will the cordless battery pack last while we're working on our car? Is it OK to purchase a cordless unit? Kindly advise. Thanks in advance🙏
@@healzone2272 I'm gonna be honest and give you my user perspective. As a beginner in the cordless space, Shinemate for the win. I feel shinemate are the best. Great battery life, durable, dependable and more bang for the buck. All Sandros Shinemate videos are 100% accurate about their products. You wont regret it!!! Enjoy!!
I don't own a shinemate cordless polisher but a full size cordless machine is rated from 30 to 45 min of use. So if you do it in that time you are good.
I love the forced rotation flex da corded and cordless model
My take from your review is Shinemate #1, Rupes #2 and Flex #3. Too bad the Rupes almost had it all but just fell a little short imho.
In my opinion Shinemate 15 is not stronger than HLR15, they are pretty much on bar. Milwaukee 15 is, but it weights 3.2kg with 5a battery. Hlr21 is the best cordless polisher.
Yup shine mate
Great video as always Shinemate are always well rounded and does excellent what it says on the tin for a reasonable price Is it perfect no but a very solid well built machine I would love a rupes but I just cant justify the price Here in the uk it will cost £750 pounds just to much for my blood Great well rounded review on all polishers Keep them coming In SANDRO we trust
Thank you as always mate!
Very good video.
Estaría bien esta comparativa con las versiones con cable. También hay una marca que hablan bien de ella. Evoxa. Estaría bien esa comparativa de pulidoras con cable en orbital de 15. Rupes vs Flex vs Shine Mate vs Evoxa. Muy buen vídeo.
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Pad stalling is my number one concern with any polisher.
What about DA Forced Rotation Polishers? I'd love to see that review. Have you considered reviewing the SPTA brand units? Thanks mate, love your work!
Can you do a review on spta and pupolo/ingco/total cordless polisher?
Could you do a review on some ceramic/wax infused handwash soaps and compare them?
I sold my mk3 to buy the Rupes and also got it with 15% off, I’m just a weekend warrior so this won’t see a lot of use,
I bought it because it’s pretty and after experiencing cordless with my PXE wanted this for my larger machine, had been considering the Shinemate,
Used it recently to re polish and coat my car and was quite happy with it, yes the trigger was a pain occasionally, was happy dealing with the battery rather than a cord.
Biggest gripe so far is the lack of a dedicated storage box like the Flex, for the money it should have come in something like this.
Another concern was seeing Matt’s from OG pack up on him, no idea what the issue was but hope there’s no common issue.
i have been using shinmate cordless machines for the last 3y and they have had a beating all the batterys are fine they still run like new so its going to take me alot to move way from them. I would love to run all rupes machines they are nice but for the price and the performace that shinmate gives they are hard to pass up. there pad is a diffrent story i love the rupes pads and use them all the time
Anyone know if the shinemate can use a different brand of battery in their machine's? I just got a eb351 for $40 with the battery but no charger
The Rupes side button for release is such a silly idea. They can easily change it and I hope they will. It's just a polisher, not a chain saw 🙂 As always, an excellent review.
Look at how much flack they got with the HLR75 trigger being too easy to unintentionally turn on. This was a late change that was implemented after the demo at SEMA where people were constantly hitting the trigger while swapping out batteries.
I never spread polish with the trigger (its a waste of time), so I go always go straight to the trigger lock...so this is a moot point for me.
Would have loved to see the Milwaukee unit in this video, it supposedly matches some of these.
Guess I'll keep my Baller Milwaukee 21 with its High output battery tech :D it may not be as balanced, but it matches its corded competitors for power.
Hi Sandro, I was wondering if you what your opinions on damp polishing are. I saw the face of Diy Detail recommend it. I only recently came across him, whereas I’ve watched you for years so I respect your experience and opinions more. Thanks in advance, and great video as always.
Typically, if you’re using good quality polishes/ compounds and pads you shouldn’t need to add moisture or dampness - that would be a short coming of the products you’re using. My advice is don’t add extra variables to your paint corrections process, keep it simple as more step and additives you pile on, the more chance you have of issues.
What about the polishers from power tool companies like Milwaukee
Do you p😢the 15 or 21mm?
Well I’m still confused lol at least I still enjoy my shinemate ex620 that you recommended
I have tested Shinemate eb351 15, Milwaukee 15 and 21, Flex 15 and Rupes 15 and 21. I used to own Shinemate, sold it for and bought Milwaukees and now i bought Rupes's. Rupes 15 is super smooth but its bit weaker than Milwaukee, 21 Rupes however is atleast as strong as 21 milwaukee and it is my favourite of all of them. I get your complaint about the battery angle, but its not really that big of a problem. In my opinion Flex is super weak and Rupes and Shinemate are about equal and Milwaukee is noticeably stronger for 15 machines that is. Havent tested 21 Shinemate, but 21 Rupes is totally different than 15. 15 i can bog down the oscilation but 21 no way and it rotates also so amazingly well. From somewhere i read that Rupes had bit vibration problems with 15 so i guess they have tuned down the power to make it smoother? Also what i dont like with the Rupes is that when you have you are on the lower end of the batter life, it wont let you use speed 6. Like you said, little bit too much computer controls on Rupes. I wonder if somebody someday will be able to pass some of those and get more power from the 15. Also i dont like that Rupes still didnt make 5" plate offically for the 21 like Milwaukee did. HLR21 with 5" is good to use, but it vibrates bit more than with the 6". Also i have noticed that if you use 5" bp and speed 6, it sometimes randomly cuts the power off, even if i dont use much pressure, im guessing that the computer thinks it vibrates too much and shuts down. i really dont like that kind stuff and they should be optional. And yes i also hate those rubber nibbles. I have dry skin and when you polish 15 hours in a day, it kills my arms. I put some masking tape on it, but will have to figure something more permanent solution. Maybe sand them down or something.
I absolutely agree with the listening about customers. For years we have asked 21 that is smooth with 5" and they just dont deliver it. Its a shame that they are capable of making the best machines, but are so freaking stubborn and wont listen customer feedback. Italians...
So lets hope that somebody learns how to mod those machines to their full potential.
what about a Makita one
Nice to see that!!!
I experienced the Rupes and didn't like that battery position, trigger and locking besides the grip. Yes, very light and quiet, low vibration but as Rupes machines they are pricey.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I have a question. If my memory serves me correct, didn't you do a review on the Shinemate line a few years ago? What I really want to know is if you have had any problems with the EB351 5/15 5" CORDLESS?
Thanks in advance.
The only issue I had was a couple of batteries failing/dying during the first year, but that seemed to be addressed with the next run of batteries.
Great video and review Sandro! Hope you’re doing well!
I have used my ShineMate machines for years and have really enjoyed them. My cordless ShineMate 21mm & 15mm machines are a little worse for wear and it’s coming up on time to replace them I’m sure. I used a friends new Rupes HLR15 recently and although I loved the finish, feel, and ergonomics of it - I felt it was *incredibly* underpowered. Speed 5-6 with a medium to softer firmness foam pad on a flat panel and it was a struggle to keep pad rotation.
I wonder if the HLR21 has a more powerful motor, would you know the answer to that? Trying to decide on replacing the ShineMates with themselves again, or going for an HLR21 - but if it’s as weak as the 15, I’d have to pass.
Thanks Sandro!
Thanks Jordan and doing well mate!
Unfortunately I’ve not tried the HLR21 so I can’t offer any insight there - I have heard from others that it does have more torque/better rotation, but can’t personally confirm that.
HLR21 is a much stronger than HLR15. It is about as strong as MK3 and Milwaukee. Havent tested Shinemate Eb351/21.
Not shown, but the best cordless polisher is manufactured by the company (TTI) with the largest pipeline/ecosystem of high end, total quality tools-Milwaukee 15mm orbital (Model #2131).
Hey sandro got a question for you. Someone used my car and took it to an automatic car wash and did touchless, one of the lines that had acid for the wheels burst and spayed all over my car. Funnily enough it revived my protection on the paint but left long etching lines on my windshield, i used steel wool 0000 on it and after lots of elbow grease it slowly came off but i need to do the whole windshield. My question is, should i polish it out using the steelwool 0000, polishing pads, use diluted acid to remove it, or replace my windshield?
That’s really unfortunate! I think a wool or microfibre pad with a heavy cutting compound would be my process for a significant etching on glass, but if you feel all your effort aren’t working or are just too laborious, I think the car wash should replace the glass.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Thank you so much for the reply.
Today i tested briefly 15 eb351, 15 milwaukee and hlr15. Shinemate was the smoothest and speed 6 it was the strongest polisher, Milwaukee was bit faster on lower speeds. So overall Shinemate is superiour. I think im gonna sell my Rupes and het 15 and 21 eb351.
Only minus for the Shinemate is its narrow torque range. Only speed 4-6 are usable so it haves only 3 usable speeds.
Sir, if I may ask, do you think it's OK for me to get the Shinemate EB351 (cordless) or the EX610 (with cord)? Not sure whether the cordless model battery pack will last for how long? If using a cordless model, are we required to get an extra backup battery pack in case we run out of juice? Kindly advise. Thanks in advance!🙏
Most of us using a large cordless polisher will have down time and use other smaller polishers as well, so typically we don’t tend to run out of battery life, or we’ll buy an extra battery or two. If you feel you’re going to polish with no down time and with just one machine - then yes, maybe the corded version will be better or you’ll need to invest in an additional charger and batteries.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Tqvm Sir for your kind reply.👍🏼
That's a very project farm type thumbnail 😂
As said, it's a shame the Milwaukee isn't in here. I really like mine!
What size backing plate does it come with? Are they interchangeable?
@@someoneelse7724 Just a 5inch mate
I have tried it for 4-5 corrections before buying my shinemates and it is just too heavy and I didn’t feel like using it towards the end of a project I much prefer my shinemate 15 &21
@@lucasaubin1661 That's interesting mate, not tried the Shinemate myself, must say the weight of the Milwaukee does start to creep in towards the end of the day
I just bought a new truck and I want to buy my first polisher. Would you recommend the Shinemate cordless or the Shinemate EX620-5/15? I watched your review on products from almost a year ago and you had the 620 as your first polisher. I’m leaning toward the corded, but cordless seems great for getting on a step stool to get the top of the cab. Or would it be worth it to get the Rupes Mk3? I’m not going to polish a lot but I appreciate and will spend more on a tool that has a has a better fit/finish and user experience (vibration and sound). Thank you in advance, I just subscribed to your channel
Based on what you’ve told me I would recommend the EX620/15, it will be the most capable and powerful of all those machines, very smooth, nice to use and extremely reliable, and for an occasional one machine user, I would stick to corded.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing thank you so much! I’m so happy I found your channel, have a great day
Disregarding the inflated price in Australia, the locking mechanism and battery position are ridiculous.
Great video. I own the Flex XCE, its the forced rotation machine, while the the XFE is the free spinning. I know they usually call the XFE the FINISHER, leaning that machine away from cutting as much. I'm not saying that the XFE cant cut but the XCE is the cordless brother to the corded 3401 BEAST. Long story short the Flex machines are fantastic along with the Rupes. I just happen to lean towards Flex. I also have the PXE 80 (Flex's Mini polisher) and I highly recommend it. Its a great portable machine.
The Milwaukee is a great choice as well as DeWalt. Makita not so much.
Flex all the way.
Woo hoo
I don’t like my rupes lhr 15 ibrid! Not enough power!
Rupes = Ferrari, Formula one precision
Flex = Mercedes, quality and comfort
Shinemate= Toyota, practical reliable
bro, take my Milwaukee and add into the video ✌🏽
I own Flex and would not buy again. Not for cutting and good only for finishing
You forgot the Dewalt...
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Not Cricket's 😂😂😂
but there are all expensive
"They are" contracts to they're. Yes, they all do seem to be very expensive. I think a lot of polishing is more about the person holding the polisher.
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I have that same Flex and it absolutely is under powered. Super smooth and quiet but stalls to easy. Great for finishing flater panels but pretty much worthless for correcting. I have many Flex polishers that I love but a little disappointed in the power of this one. Great video!
@1stfrompuertorico568 🥇hope you enjoyed it my friend.
Rupes is absolutely useless for professional paint correction. It doesn’t have enough power especially when the battery hits 2 bars. I returned mine.
Flex > any other garbage. Everyone thinks the Flex is weak because it’s the smoothest. i’ve owned both the rupes and flex and the flex is by far the best option.
i owned the flex XFE and had zero issues. bought the rupes for the hype and the machine is total garbage. too many people don’t know how to polish and don’t realize the backing plate needs to be able to spin freely with each oscillation. and the rupes seems to have a really stiff backing plate which prevent spin. the oscillation without the spin just gives you holograms. i sold it the same day and took the 150 dollar loss. but i would never get something rupes again. they spent too much time and did so shitty