Hi Michel. You are definitely the master of making something “useless” into something “useful”. As always excellent work, even if the desired result wasn’t quite there. Not for the want of trying. 👏👏👍😀
Recycling the way to go Rustinox. Just use the smaller diameter register on the back or the chuck, turn the larger one down to the same size. That may, hopefully prevent the chuck body distorting when you tighten the mounting bolts. Cheers Tony
Thanks for your videos. I don’t have plates lying around so what I did to get a cast iron plate was to machine a cheap $20CAD barbell from the supermarket’s website. I order it along with my groceries….
Hi Michel, a very logical piece to make which must give greater support for the chuck. Do you think the chuck components might need some fettling to get them to work better? It's always enjoyable to watch you making things, so that's another win!! Have a great weekend!!
Like you say, even if the jaw screws aren't any freer moving at least there is less chance of getting junk into the space between the chuck and the back plate now. Still interesting to watch and see your thought process.
Nice work och fine entertainment video, as usual. I hung a 5" chuck on my 4" lathe. The power control strugles with off/on start. Starting from zero and ramping up the speed is preferred, but it works.
Nice video Michel, I always enjoy an improvement in a piece of equipment, even if it is minor. Especially if it's something I have put up with for a while. Cheers!
Thanks for making me laugh... it was important ... i had a hard week.. and at that moment.... I laughed, and spat out my coffee 🤣😂🖖.... Keep on doin what you do brother...
I think front fixing chucks (like you have there) are good. Back fixing may look neater but front fixing makes things easier when fixing to a rotary table (for example). From the chips, that spacing ring looks like nice material. Cheers
Hi Michel ☺, well you filled the gap ok, that's solved one problem, and I guess the tightness in the jaws will loosen off in time, if you haven't already lubed them then that might help. Thanks for the video mate, stay safe, enjoy your wkend, best wishe's to all, Stuart Uk.
Hi Rusti. Great job on the spacer piece. I wonder if a paper gasket on the spacer might relieve the clamp on the outer part and maybe reduce the distortion. You could try it as a test. If it helped maybe you could try a very light skim on the outer surface? I'm sure you could get it just a bit better. That said, it works well enough as is. All the best, Mart.
I like how you make use of things lying around to improve the other things lying around. Perhaps the back plate is not a close enough fit to resist deformation.
Dear Michel, A tip that was given to me is to clone your 4 jaw chuck key. By moving two opposing jaws simultaneously a considerable time saving is achieved when truing an item in the four jaw chuck.
A win is a win, I'm glad to here that you've had the same problem as I have had, I had a stuck dinosaur, in a crack I prefer not to elaborate on, Lets say it was a real pain in the ass. Great job. Enjoy the vids, they always bring a smile :)
There may still be a space between the plate and the chuck. Could try some shims between. Hope you solve the problems of the tight jaws Michel. Cheers Nobby
G'day Rusty. Excellent job with the various sections of machining & fitting. Just wondering if an extra .002" in the bolted centre section would make a bit of difference The clamping down is where the distortion is occurring. Or maybe the side locating lugs need squaring off to stop possible internal corner bottoming ?
Great work! I have a lathe and its spindle have cone #6. I'm going to buy a new chuk (sanou) , and it can be with mounting on cone or mounting plate. Which one you suggest me to buy?
I think your problem is when. You turned down the back of the chuck now when you tighten it up it's pressing against the pins that holds the screws for the jows mark the pins and remove them and make them shorter it's going to be hard with the steps. good luck.JM
I'm trying to help you . if I'm wrong I'm just stupid but if your wrong you still have a problem . so i did the same thing i machined the back of a chuck. those pins need to be recessed a bit . quick check loosen up the bolts a bit and if it frees up try giving the pins some space . I think the pins are forcing the screw into the jaws Good luck .JM
Just wondering..... Could the four round pins inserted from the rear that are the screw postioners be getting pushed deeper by the ring and that's where the drag is coming from? I wonder if the pins were bumped or pushed back by 0.02mm and then machined flush to the register surface maybe they would not push the screws forward into the jaw threads and bind? Doing what you did might have fixed part of the issue but they were tight already? Pulling the jaws out and looking at the "U" that locates the screws might show some signs of rubbing if this is the case.
Another cool video Michel. Thanks.
You put a lot of effort into marking the scale on that plate. Shame you had to turn all that work off.
A lot of work indeed. But I suppose it's part of evolution :)
@@Rustinox That lathe is lucky to be with you.
It is always a good day when you can keep the dinosaurs out from behind your chuck. 👍
Absolutely.
I love your kind of humor🦕🦖I always wait for your videos, they are always a highlight of my TH-cam week
Thanks.
Hi Michel. You are definitely the master of making something “useless” into something “useful”. As always excellent work, even if the desired result wasn’t quite there. Not for the want of trying. 👏👏👍😀
Thanks. One day I will make it better. For sure.
Great improvement Michel, nicely done, and well commented 👍.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks.
That's a win !! Nice one !
Thanks.
hi michel
Sometimes things don't go to plan, I know well😉😉🤔🤔👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
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Kev
Indeed. More than we would like :)
Recycling the way to go Rustinox. Just use the smaller diameter register on the back or the chuck, turn the larger one down to the same size. That may, hopefully prevent the chuck body distorting when you tighten the mounting bolts. Cheers Tony
That's an idea. I will think of it.
A wins a win!
Absolutely.
Thanks for your videos. I don’t have plates lying around so what I did to get a cast iron plate was to machine a cheap $20CAD barbell from the supermarket’s website. I order it along with my groceries….
Good idea.
Boost for the algorithm.
Thanks as always!
Thanks.
Great lesson things are not perfect
Thanks.
Hi Michel, a very logical piece to make which must give greater support for the chuck. Do you think the chuck components might need some fettling to get them to work better?
It's always enjoyable to watch you making things, so that's another win!!
Have a great weekend!!
I don't know yet but I will figure it out.
I’m all in favor of having a chuck fit multiple spindles 👍!
Sure thing.
Looks good enough for me.
Regards, Preso
It works. but it can be better.
Like you say, even if the jaw screws aren't any freer moving at least there is less chance of getting junk into the space between the chuck and the back plate now. Still interesting to watch and see your thought process.
Well, at least it's better than it was before.
Nice work och fine entertainment video, as usual.
I hung a 5" chuck on my 4" lathe. The power control strugles with off/on start. Starting from zero and ramping up the speed is preferred, but it works.
If it works, it works.
Wow, I'm very impressed!!!
Nice. Thanks.
Nice video Michel, I always enjoy an improvement in a piece of equipment, even if it is minor. Especially if it's something I have put up with for a while. Cheers!
You're right. Feels good to make things better :)
10 seconds in.. and i was larfin.... thanks dude.....😂😅
Nice.
Thanks for making me laugh... it was important ... i had a hard week.. and at that moment.... I laughed, and spat out my coffee 🤣😂🖖....
Keep on doin what you do brother...
Thanks for sharing.
Welcome.
I think front fixing chucks (like you have there) are good. Back fixing may look neater but front fixing makes things easier when fixing to a rotary table (for example). From the chips, that spacing ring looks like nice material. Cheers
You're right. Front fixing chuks are more versatile.
Hi Michel ☺, well you filled the gap ok, that's solved one problem, and I guess the tightness in the jaws will loosen off in time, if you haven't already lubed them then that might help. Thanks for the video mate, stay safe, enjoy your wkend, best wishe's to all, Stuart Uk.
It works fine as is but there is place for improvement.
Yes, better to have that gap filled with the washer. Good work with some unused material.
Thanks.
dinosaurs??? have to watch out for that
Absolutely. They can generate an unbalance in the chuck.
Hi Rusti. Great job on the spacer piece. I wonder if a paper gasket on the spacer might relieve the clamp on the outer part and maybe reduce the distortion. You could try it as a test. If it helped maybe you could try a very light skim on the outer surface? I'm sure you could get it just a bit better. That said, it works well enough as is. All the best, Mart.
Good idea. I will give it a try.
I like how you make use of things lying around to improve the other things lying around. Perhaps the back plate is not a close enough fit to resist deformation.
I will figure it out. For sure.
Dear Michel,
A tip that was given to me is to clone your 4 jaw chuck key. By moving two opposing jaws simultaneously a considerable time saving is achieved when truing an item in the four jaw chuck.
I know the trick, but I don't see the adventage of it.
good video rustinox
Thanks.
Good timing, I'm working on the same problem.
Nice. Go for it.
I always takes me ages to clock a piece of material in the 4 jaw. You made it look much easier. Result.
Steve.
If you take your time, it's much easier.
A win is a win, I'm glad to here that you've had the same problem as I have had, I had a stuck dinosaur, in a crack I prefer not to elaborate on, Lets say it was a real pain in the ass. Great job. Enjoy the vids, they always bring a smile :)
So, if I've git it right, the dinosaur prevented you from sitting correctly?
It’s still a win I’d say
I think so too.
Win,,, Win is a good thing. Early Spring would be nice too 😎
Thanks.
There may still be a space between the plate and the chuck. Could try some shims between. Hope you solve the problems of the tight jaws Michel. Cheers Nobby
Good idea. I will give it a go.
Where there's a will there's a way and you found it. It's just a shame you didn't get it the way you wanted it.👍
One day I will. For sure.
@@RustinoxI have no doubt you will 👍
G'day Rusty. Excellent job with the various sections of machining & fitting.
Just wondering if an extra .002" in the bolted centre section would make a bit of difference
The clamping down is where the distortion is occurring. Or maybe the side locating lugs need squaring off to stop possible internal corner bottoming ?
I will try with shims and see what happens.
Obligatory algorithm boost 👍👍
Good.
Great work! I have a lathe and its spindle have cone #6. I'm going to buy a new chuk (sanou) , and it can be with mounting on cone or mounting plate. Which one you suggest me to buy?
The easiest way is to install the same diameter chuck on the original backplate.
I think your problem is when. You turned down the back of the chuck now when you tighten it up it's pressing against the pins that holds the screws for the jows mark the pins and remove them and make them shorter it's going to be hard with the steps. good luck.JM
The problem is the jaws themselfes are binding up in the slots.
I'm trying to help you . if I'm wrong I'm just stupid but if your wrong you still have a problem . so i did the same thing i machined the back of a chuck. those pins need to be recessed a bit . quick check loosen up the bolts a bit and if it frees up try giving the pins some space .
I think the pins are forcing the screw into the jaws Good luck .JM
@@junkmannoparts9696 Thanks. Will Do. I appreciate your input.
Just wondering..... Could the four round pins inserted from the rear that are the screw postioners be getting pushed deeper by the ring and that's where the drag is coming from? I wonder if the pins were bumped or pushed back by 0.02mm and then machined flush to the register surface maybe they would not push the screws forward into the jaw threads and bind? Doing what you did might have fixed part of the issue but they were tight already? Pulling the jaws out and looking at the "U" that locates the screws might show some signs of rubbing if this is the case.
Thanks for your input. The four screws are totally free. The problem is that the jaws are binding in the slots.
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Thanks.
👍😎
Thanks.
is the problem ,that its not sitting squre on the taper.i noticed when your dial guage was moved to the end of the bar it taper out.????
The taper is fine. It's just that the chuck deforms while tightening.
Hi make a paper gasket to trap in there bolts still pulling the front in.
Steve
I will give it a try.