I thought I had made this clear in the video but Fie’s placement is based off of Cold Steel 1 & 2. I’m seeing a-lot of comments mentioning characters from the later titles.
kinda surprised you didn't include laura considering if you build her correctly her S craft is not only a screen wipe but is also capable of one shotting ANY BOSS IN THE GAME
The fun part with Rita is the casting itself. She always do a speach before cast, but when you activate de special, she just change all the speach for a "blablabla" before the cast.
Bleu from Breath of Fire II. She's the secret character, the returning one from the first game, and she is absolutely broken. Her special move, which is mostly just a gimmick in the case of the others, is a full heal that SLIGHTLY drops her defense for a turn, that you can use every turn. And she has a stat growth that will max her stats completely by the end even if you don't abuse stat up items.
Decent list, but I think Orlandu should have been top spot; for all the reasons you mentioned and, no setup is needed. He is game-breakingly lethal right out of the box!
Cream The Rabbit in Sonic Chronicles The Dark Brotherhood. Her refresh ability restores the whole parties MP including Cream herself and you can upgrade skills level 3 refresh costs 8 MP to cast but restores 15. Funny enough she's completely busted in Sonic Advance 2,she a part of the easy mode in Sonic Heroes,she's top tier in Sonic Battle and even after nerfing her in Sonic Advance 3 the best duo in the game is Knuckles and Cream with Sonic and Cream in second place. And she don't need no chaos emeralds.
Cream is absurdly strong in almost every game appearance.... only exception is maybe sonic heroes, but her solo attack of sending cheese after enemies basically oneshots almost every non-boss enemy in the game
@@locloudanerpg chronicles is very simple on who is better than others. cream and omega are the optional choices but they are better than half of the cast you get in the story. Tails while kind of weak and a worse cream you are kind of forced to use him in some segments in the game can't say the same for rouge or big where it's clear what their job roles are that being thief and tank but they do not work in this game
@@locloudanerpg The Advance games and Dark Brotherhood are the origin of the gaming term, "cheesing." Similar to how the term, metagame is derived from Meta Knight in Smash Bros. Brawl.
You could add in your criteria the sooner they became broken and the more content there are in the game, the higher the character is on this list. For exemple, if a character is broken very late in the game and there is only the final boss to fight, well it's not really worth it.
I like the idea fie broke but the reason she broke wasn't because she is evasive tank but her range to counter is wide mid meaning no matter how far the enemies normally attack do to her, she will counter them back!! Since in trails, building evasion tank is already a method since crossbell duology😂
Joon-gi Han in Yakuza: Like A Dragon is obscenely busted. He has a move called Head Trauma that only costs 6 MP and does insane damage to a single enemy, has access to 3 different damage types, has self buffs and can inflict status ailments...and that's just his default class.
One key element to Fie's evasion that sets her apart from others is that she can counter regardless of range. She is the only one who can counter evaded gunfire or long range attacks regardless of where she is on the field. You can do that similar setup with Crow, but there's definitely a reason you've picked her. Rean would avoid it but wouldn't encounter, and it won't occur until cold steel 3 and 4, but in the first two entries Elliot and Emma wouldn't be able to evade everything
@@tecanec9729 She does. Imo, she's also straight up better than Fie for the simple fact that her Lightning Charge grants her a massive STR/SPD buff AND Insight in a single skill.
In Breath of Fire III, Rei with a master that boosts agility and the correct battle formation can make everyone in your party have an extra turn, every single turn. You basically build him to be too fast for even the final boss, then slap the Chain Formation to make the other party members just as fast. Absolutely busted.
One of my favorite ways to replay FF8 is too give Zell the HP- Junction Ability ASAP, refine 100 Curagas, and keep him critical for the rest of the game. Just melting Boss HP with Armageddon Fist
@@stevenkurniawan6521 Lion Heart does more damage than Zell can output. Lion Heart is luck based though and so on average Zell will probably put out more damage consistently.
What I love about the post-Cold Steel Trails is that the EVA Tanks became something like the norm (I haven't played the last two, Kuro no Kiseki 1 and 2, so I don't know if you can still EVA your way to victory). But the broken fun in those games only starts with the EVA Tanks. There's ATS cannons, Craft Machines, Bait Tanks, Assists, Orders, Debuffers, True Domination-Rean (because of the name of the quartz you use), and so on. The key to completely break the game is to mix the EVA Tanks with the others, then you are essentially untouchable, and can blow holes into the opposition with impunity, and without ever being targeted or allowing the enemy room to even sneeze. Hell, make your EVA Tanks also Bait Tanks with the Aegis MQ, and just watch as the enemy tries to kill an unouchable counter machine while everybody else nukes them. Reverie is especially broken in this area, what with the sheer amount of playable characters and quartz, master or otherwise. You can imitate some of these broken things in the pre-Cold Steel games (the Sky trilogy and Zero and Azure), but it's only from CS 1 that the devs made them a "let's break the game" competition. In Sky you had Joshua, Agate, Kevin, Kloe, Renne and Richard (in Sky 3rd), and in Zero and Azure each SSS member is pretty much breakable with the right MQ/Quartz/Equip combo.
Honestly, in CS3, 4 and reverie, EVA tanks aren't the most broken things, you can just use orders to get infinite turn with character that easily unbalance the enemies or character that directly give order point (looking at you mister Lloyd "Burning Heart" Bannings)
Just throwing out this idea, why not make this a series. There are so many broken characters in video games. You could get more content just for that alone. I like your videos. I recently started doing the Trails series, and your videos helped me decide what my final party members are going to be in endgame cold steel 1 and 2, as well as Sky FC.
RE:Orlandu: He's also the only character I know of, who can end a boss battle in a single turn. One of the later fights in the game, against one of the zodiac knights, the caster mage, if you put Orlandu in a specific spot in the starting lineup, he will go first, and be in range to hit the boss with the armor break attack he has. This will always one-shot said boss, instantly ending the battle.
Orlandu is easily one of my all time favourite characters in any RPG. His character, play style and abilities are what made me fall in love with Paladin's when I was a kid 😊
Just good Gameplay and Story Integration. They said that Cid was outrageously powerful, only compared to Barbaneth. That he could decimate armies by himself. And when you get him in your party he does just that~ I mean, by that point Ramza, Agrias and my 3 generics where their very own pantheon of physical gods thanks to their plethora of skills and synergies. But Orlandeu could very well keep up with them (even if in a very simple and straight forward manner) with just his base class and equipment (unlike the other special characters).
@@Trasgobardo and yet Delita still threatens you and acts he and the rest of the world dont live because you choose for them too while you kill the other physical god trying to wreck the world so they dont get eaten
sorta... people like to mention orlandu as the broken one... here's an unfortunate part here. Orlandu isn't exactly as OP as people make it. He's OP because of the sword. However, Melidoul and Agrias are better in their respective sword skills. First, they have higher base stats (or rather potential if you leveled up right) and second... they're women. FFT favors women far more than men because of equipment and accessories. In this regard Orlandu is only better BECAUSE he can use both sword skills, not that he's better with them. But there's not really a case where you'd say "hey, orlandu... I want you to use one this turn and the other the next". Melidoul is clearly broken in this one though because the divine sword skills are better on almost any fight that matters. The only thing she suffers at is fighting monsters which outside 2 fights isn't an issue. Agrias fairs better there. The dark knight skill set was kind of useless in the end though.
exactly why i belive he should've been n1. every single other character in this list need some setup, you need to build them right. if you dont change anything in orlandu's class or equipment, he will still delete the entire game. and then you can do make him stronger.
Yeah That's what I call that "Gameplay and Story Integration" As quoted from Tvtropes: "Orlandeau, who is described in the backstory as jaw-droppingly powerful and skilled enough to defeat entire armies... and, well, when you get him on your side, he is-and unlike the other characters who join your party at a set level, he is always at the party level the game uses to calculate random encounters (so if your 4 + Ramza is maxed out at 99...)
Her Star Rune plus a Magic Absorb Rune is definitely busted. What's even more busted, however, is any character in Suikoden 2, 3, 4, and 5 that has three Rune slots and a very high attack. Some combination of Fury, Double-Beat, and Double-Strike runes (or their equivalents) can cause a character to do enough damage to one-round (if not one-shot) a final boss!
exactly what i said in another comment... wakka is better on damage but still needs some of rikku's utility anyway, especially long before you can do 5 digit damage. rikku should have been honorable mention instead
Valsu Saizer from 7th Saga. Late game he gets a spell called Elixer, and it fully heals a character. Seems simple, but here is the catch; it also fully restores MP, including the MP used for the spell itself. As long as you have access to Elixer, you have effectively unlimited MP.
BOF 3 was my fave RPG back in 2009-2010... Peco was also my fave post-game tank especially on how fricking broken he is... He can literally counter any physical attacks and a great meat shield... Thanks to you I'm thinking of replaying this game again!
To go to an earlier game in the Legend of Heroes Trails series... Kloe in specifically Trails in the Sky FC is REALLY op. Well, it's more like her pet bird Sieg is. In FC, that Kaempfer attack that Kloe has essentially makes your opponent do 0 damage to your whole party while simultaneously skyrocketting your own attack back. That attack CUT YOUR OPPONENT'S ATTACK AND DEFENSE IN HALF. And the way the damage calculations work, even small changes in attack/defense would drastically increase or decrease the damage dealt to someone. That bird got nerfed into the ground in the sequel where it went from -50% for both atk & def down to a measly -10% and -15% for atk & def respectively, which goes to show how OP Kaempfer was in FC.
I'd say Yuna is actually stronger than Wakka, especially since most people will be playing the HD version these days where certain Aeons got buffed. Anima and the Magus Sisters can now do multiple hits of max damage, summoning is the easiest way to get around devastating attacks, and Aeons can often solo bosses throughout the story.
I gotta disagree with number 8. When playing casually, Meru will certainly be your best character. She's got the most speed and her final addition is the best *multiplier* in the game (but keep in mind that her low strength mostly balances this out). However, her fatal flaw is joining late. She doesn't join *that* late, but the actual most broken character in the game just happens to join almost right away: Shana. At just 5 less speed and noticeably higher magic stat, Shana is a real life nuke that trivializes the entire game. You get her before the first boss, and the game practically begs you to spam magic items with her because her regular attack is by far the worst (and least fun) in the game, and they always happen to give you the item that's strong against the next boss. The only downside to the Shana nuke is that the 32 item limit requires you to know the game well enough to manage your inventory in a way that allows you access to the items you need. As a bonus, once you get Meru, she can assist with the magic spam, but Shana is still the star of the show by far.
Also, Rikku is more busted than Wakka in FF10.... she has 64 potential overdrive when you learn the system of her mix and it's her alone that allows you to NEVER need break HP limit and break MP limit for any fight. Wakka is stronger on the damage front, but Rikku is overall more busted. plus, she can let you deal 9999 damage with every hit very early in the game, which compounds onto wakka's overdrive at a time where you're probably struggling to even get 1000 in a hit.
For early game, Rikku is more busted with Trio of 9999/Quartet of 9. Late game Wakka is throwing out 99999 x12 hits with his Overdrive, so Trio of 9999/Quartet of 9 is not helping him there.
@@killerb255 while true, she's still needed for the null all stuff among other things or you'll have trouble getting those attack reels off anyway. in fact, she's still a must if you want to avoid getting break HP limit, as it's possible to beat every fight in the game without it. plus i can't really call it "Early game" since you likely won't even be capable of dealing more than 9999 in a hit without some insane grinding or already having cleared zanarkand which is the end of the game basically.
Ozma in the Psp version is also just fucking broken all cuz of her low WT she is insanely fast if I recall correctly she can get 2 turns to the 2nd fastest characters 1 which gives you like 6 turns for every enemies 1.
Erik's combo in DQ11 is the reason i immediately started a 2nd playthrough after beating the game. It was something i figured out far to late in my 1st playthrough, and i wanted to abuse it early in my 2nd playthrough.
Fie in CS 2 was how I got into her story more and love her as a character. I didn't even got full evasion like you said in set up, but she had an evasion state of like 65 percent and was BUSTED
The funny thing is CS2 also makes her busted in a different way at the same time - it gives her a Stealth craft, and that buff is an entirely different level of broken because its main effect is basically "impossible to be targeted by any enemy". This is how I discovered that the forced-loss battles in CS2 just... end a few turns after what's supposed to be a wipe, because she just Stealthed her way through one to not get hit. Its *other* effect is guaranteed crits on crafts, which leans into a bunch of other mechanics and even just raw damage
Don't forget either: the Shining art grants Evasion +50%, so if you want the extra turn of setup you only need 50% evade, which is trivial even in the midgame. Combine that with the fact the AI will ALWAYS target the closest opponent to them, and Fie becomes unstoppable until the final boss (who has an undodgable attack she probably can't tank). Also, Laura with max DPS and the quartz that makes her first skill used per battle do double damage can one-shot most things if fully buffed on a crit. RNG specific, but it's fun killing superbosses in one attack.
Stealth should have been removed from the game after CS2 showed how unbalanced the mechanic was. Glad Kuro weakens it greatly. Stealth was a mistake. Too bad Kuro hard nerfed physical builds after Reverie put the balance in teh right direction again in terms of character options.@@TARDISES
@@dave9515 And the funny thing is that Stealth was still a bit weaker in CS2 than it was in Azure simply because I don't recall a stealth-granting food item (which is relevant because Moebius exists) in CS2. Of course, with that party-wide stealth potential came the risk of softlocks. Which I did run into on my last playthrough. Do not try it against the plant cryptids, they literally don't know what to do if they don't have a target.
Fie busted indeed at CS2 since she can counter with range attack unlike CS1 fie only counter with melee. i manage to get over 100% evasion rate on her and no boss can even lift finger on her even in nightmare difficulty xD.
Man I loved Erik, hes such a bro, such a powerful bro, I'd always want him as a homie. Good stuff man, I'm always pretty hype to see your stuff, I always love your selection of games man!
I can't wait !! As a kid I wasn't aware of God Peco in Breath of Fire 3 I knew there could be something there but I just couldnt connect the pieces! I juat loved Ryu, Rei, and Nina ! Also still wishing I could beat the Unicorn Bros. as kid Ryu and somehow get Teepo as a permanent party member !
@@cam9144 He absolutely gets insane ! I remember searching all over for Teepo as well ! Only to be crushed lol I would sometimes challenge myself to use Momo because she seemed bad but she just had to have something..... She didn't but I thought the same with Garr lolol Man now I want to replay Breath of Fire 3.... Definitely an amazing soundtrack doesn't hurt
@@JMartini810 - Momo is fantastic when you train her under a master (currently forget) that can boost her accuracy. Then there's some equipment that does as well. Then I gave her a monster skill that has a high chance to crit and she was blasting everything while being a great supporting class. I trained Ryu to be really high in magic so his dragon forms would pop off and last longer.
TG Cid of course is GOAT. Peco could be overlooked until you realize that he's getting massive stat boosts every friggin level until he's just completely unstoppable.
As well as having insane dodge potential, Fie is a natural speedster, only beaten by Sarah amongst the core class 7 team, if I remember correctly. Her weapons have two "damage types" for unbalancing at mid-proficiency, which meant she was triggering support strikes more regularly than those with a single damage type at higher proficiency. I usually built Fie in speed, dodge, and crit and paired her up with Laura who is fully built in power and crit. Everyone in my party had one gem that caused delay + disrupt. This meant that Fie could strike at least 4 times before the enemy could... and each time she had a big chance of dragging the high-powered Laura into the strike... some bosses simply couldn't act... especially those that relied on crafts and arts, as those would always be interrupted either by Fie, Rean, or Sarah. Laura rarely had a turn but tanks to Fie, she always actively participated in the fights in a major way, support striking 10k+ damage when Fie did about 3k and Rean 4 to 5k. Any time I could get that formation, it would be smooth sailing until I couldn't use it. (Cold Steel games have a tendency to strip half the team from the available pool until the final part of the game and the school chapters.)
I would of started throwing hands if Maria wasn't on this list and at the very least in the top 5. Man knows his stuff. Also, I expected any unit from any Disgaea game to be on here. Like literally, ANY unit.
I would offer up Bleu from Breath of Fire 2. Ridiculously high stats gets all the most powerful magics in the game well before everyone else and is nigh literally immortal because she can full heal herself at any time for no cost using Shed lol I would also say Geno might be more broken than Peach because of the Genowhirl trick letting him basically one shot every enemy in the game including almost all the bosses. And I think TG Cid might be too low.. When he gets high Brave stat, the Blade Grasp skill, Robe of Lords and the Eschuteon II he's unkillable. 95% chance to avoid any attack thrown at him with auto haste the most damage in the game bar a calculator and moves that can heal him back to full. Only thing near as busted is like Agrias with a similar setup and the Chantage because she becomes literally immortal with it but not as pants on head broken as Cid because he gets every swordskill in the game and his stats are just ridiculously higih. Half decently, let alone the utter broken setup I mentioned before Cid can solo the entire game with no issue and no in fight setup just set him free. Hell put his AI on auto and watch the slaughter.
Her being absolutely busted is kinda par for the course, for the lore of the game. She's _supposed_ to be ungodly powerful, it's literally written into her story. ToB in general is a huge power trip emo fantasy, and it is very unapologetic about it. And that's why most people love that game. They did this, because they desperately needed a Tales game to really succeed like no other Tales game ever succeeded before, because the previous game (Zestiria...) was rather a stinker that not very many people liked. So, they went all out with Velvet, giving her a revealing outfit, emo personality, the flashiest attacks ever, an incredibly emotional backstory, a killer VA (at least the English version) that knocked her performance out of the park, especially the opening scenes of the game, and a sweet cherry on top, making her OP as hell. And it worked. Berseria remains near the top of just about anybody's Tales of lists, or even JRPGs in general.
I recognize a lot of these picks, either from having played the games they came from (Rita, Tressa, Eric, Fie, Poppi) or learning of their absurd reputation through osmosis given how many RPGs I play (Thunder God Cid, Zell). I don’t see people talk about Trails often so seeing Fie in particular on this list was a very pleasant surprise. In the Cold Steel era of the series evasion tanks can become truly absurd, and Fie’s increased range for counters makes her incredibly broken as an evasion tank. And if you thought CS1/2 Fie was already untouchable, the later games (CS4 and Reverie especially) allow for her to access even more ridiculous builds. It’s a case of a strong character only getting better with time. Between that and her easily being one of my favorite members of Class VII, it’s little wonder she stayed a permanent fixture of my team whenever possible. XD
about star ocean 2, there are two op characters that are kind overlooked, noel and chisato, in this game mages suck, noel is a mage and kind a worst healer than Rena, however he can equip the best armor in the game the blood armor, you are imortal however your hp rapiddly drecresses, the point is, he has a party wide heal, and if you give it enough proficiency he can heal out the dmg of the blood armor, and chisato is know for her high dps, but never saw anyone using her imortal build, there is a weapon called the phantom slayer that you can find in the post game dungeon, this weapon also has the passive to heal you based on the damage you heal, so she can became imortal with blood armor, she can solo the superboss of that game with easy, of you find maria broken, let me say the combo chisato noel turns star ocean 2 in a idle game
The only problem with that is NOEL IS PURE CRAP if you really want to use 4 Bloody armor users Opera MUST be one of them have Healing Star at 999 uses and Bloody armor Claude Chisato and Dias on a Rena game and Bowman if you can't USE Dias at all. Actually even wit 999 Fairy Light//Heal users Noel will NEVER outheal a 999 use Healing Star and Unlike Rena he doesn't HAVE a USE healing ONLY spells AI at all so he's still PURE CRAP.
@@veghesther3204 dude, i did it with easy in both versions, you only need to put off all of his other spells, the best party i did was chisato, claude, noel and opera, and with only 500 uses noel can out heal the dmg
With Opera in the party Noel is still pure CRAP and even with Fairy Light/Heal as his ONLY spells turned on he will almost NEVER use them so I'll never have him join the party EVER so bloody armor Claude Opera Chisato Dias/Bowman ONLY. Even with 500 uses Noel is NOT likely to outheal HEALING star since I pretty much has Noel's Fairy Light/heal ONLY restore 2000 HP at ANY USE count. Healing Star is also instant WITHOUT a charge up time spell charging is still LETHAL with the Blood armors HP drain effect.
Saw Fie in the title and I got flashbacks to the best evasion tank in the game. just plop her in the middle of a horde and watch them waste their turns trying to scratch her after-after images 😅
Xenoblade 3: Noah -Noah for most of the game isn’t really amazing. However, once Noah gets Lucky 7, you basically win. It is an automatic AOE full driver combo. It is so utterly broken that it invalidates the rest of the game. Have a mob of monsters, you launch smash all of them at once and just kill them. Have a super boss? Buff yourself and then launch smash them and they are either dead and just about dead. Lucky 7 is one of the most broken things I’ve played with in massive JRPGs
For evade builds there are lots of options and one is stalker which is surprisingly better than FMJ with falsh fencer arguably the best at being an evade tank for some reason. The meta is awakened seraphs with support soulhacker, mash, signifier and troubadour user and by signifier medic signifer and masha troubadour or some other class and troubadour but the important ones are masha class, soulhacker, and signifier for supports and having mainly seraphs for attackers with of course no tanks unless its lone exile cause thats the only good and amazing tank class endgame. FR is abusing mathew and killing everything mad fast or endgame using Rex and spamming spinning edge and shredding everything in chain attacks. Xenoblade 3 meta doesn't matter much when you can debuff every boss and also just make almost any team work for the most part. Its much less restricting than 2 for the most part.@@juancarlosfernandezperez6843
Not to mention the weapon has a built-in really high probability insta kill effect on basically every attack. This means you are probably one shotting everyone before you even have the chance to build your special attack (this doesn't affect bosses, but just kill them with the special attack itself, it already acts like a one shot anyway)
I agree, Poppy is definetly broken. 8 billion is definitely a number. But I still love pulling out lucky seven in xenoblade 3 using capable hands, spam tachion slash and, if there is still an enemy alive after the doom effect, use final lucky seven and even superbosses die in two hits if i'm not using a chain attack. The animation itself of Noah gently touching the blade at the start is just magnificent.
For me, late Game in Xc 2 is almost: build 2x or 3 orbs, full trigger bar, summon out Pneuma. An lot blades do high damage (zenobia, dagdas, newt, kosmos)
My boy Garrus in Mass Effect 3 can carry you through Insanity difficulty so he'd really mop up on lower difficulties. Just search up Garrus ascends to god hood.
Ryu's Agni form is totally broken which he had to use against final boss in order to get best ending. Peppita from Star Ocean 3, Robin from Fire Emblem Awakening, Elwin from Der Langrisser, War Lady from Disgaea 6/7, and Veronica from Dragon Quest 11 deserves to mention too.
I didn't think Rita was even an above average character tbh. If you wanted to go with a Tales of Character, I'd recommend Marta from the 2nd Tales of Symphonia. If you get enough speed casts on her she can cast like instantly, and with technical III she also has like infinite TP. Combined with that she can give your whole party autolife status makes it impossible to lose. And she can heal, support, and attack, too.
Something you neglected to mention about Eric is that his move Critical Claim is great in the mid-game for killing Metal Slimes and getting level-ups faster for everyone in the party
A honorable mention could be Pleinair in the first Disgaea. She comes with S rank in Guns and a huge Hit growth, and you can get her as soon as you can NG+, which if you let the first chapter boss beat you can be as early as half an hour into the game. Then you can start using her as your main damage dealer since Hit controls both damage with guns and the chance to hit and crit on enemies. Sure, any unit in Disgaea can become powerful enough to solo everything eventually, but Pleinair can carry you through most of that even before you start engaging with most mechanics.
For Fie, I do see why you would think she's the best, as she is one of the few character that ca counter attack ranged attacks and has a 25% base evade stat, however I do think Rean might be best (in cs1 and 2 of course) because of one thing, delay, he can just delete enemy turn with his delay craft and some quartz impede, as well as still having 100% evade since everyone can have that in these games. You could also put in it Laura since she can, you know, one shot bosses with her S-craft at the start of the fight ?
Alex from Lunar Silver Star Story is kind of broken once he gets his Dragon Spells. Glenn from Chrono Cross outclasses a lot of the characters and gets duel wielding of the Einlanzer. Maybe not seen as broken idk, but Jade from Tales of the Abyss can become a wrecking machine once he has his best spells from the scrolls and the item to give you the quickest casting time AND easy field of fonon generation with wind in particular.
The reason why I think TG Cid from FFT should be #1 is because you don't even need to think about anything with him. Don't need to build him in any special way other than the most intuitive. All you gotta know is to just use lightning stab and that's it. He comes with the god damn Excalibur lmao
Yeah, evasion tank Fie is pretty broken. But so is Laura in her "Godslayer" build. Give her every piece of equipment and Quartz that pushes her STR, Tauros MQ and top it off with the Domination Quartz that doubles the damage of her first attack. If you then double buff her STR at the beginning of the fight, her S-Craft can pretty much onshot most bosses in the game. I think that was the reason they implemented the shieldbreak mechanic for the later games that makes you do less dmg until the defense of the enemy gets broken. And you know what's even more broken? Link those girls togehter for the max amount of counter attack dmg. That way it makes a cakewalk out of the things that don't die instantly to Laura.
Partitio in Octopath 2 is pretty broken as well. Granted, that game can certainly be broken by a number of characters & builds, but Partitio is probably the most easily broken, provided you have money. Sidestep + Hang Tough+ Rest for survivability, Arrow of Fortune & Bifelgians bounty for grinding, Donate BP + An SP healing skill for the party, that alone removes alot of difficulty. Then you add Hired Help & Negotiate Schedule, and the game gets put on easy mode. Give him Full Power as a support skill, activate his latent, & a full BP hired Help just obliterates and/or breaks everything, opening up the enemy for the heavy hitters (Hikari, Throne, Ochette, possibly Oswald or Casti) to clean up. It's just insane. I made mine an Inventor sub class, gave him Salt The Wound, plus the axe and spear that give +1 hit. Parti breaks the enemy, goes again because STW, donates BP to Hikari, Hikari abides, then next turn either uses brands blade or his latent power, and boom, enemy dead.
@@jaimereupert4247 it's a pretty customizable game, you can really find a party set up that works best with whatever play style you like. Can't go wrong with pretty much any party make up. Which is why I absolutely love that game.
@@jaimereupert4247 yes sir, and his story is pretty good. Not at all a bad choice for your MC. If you do choose him as your main, I recommend going for Hikari or Throne as your second, those are primary damage dealers, Partitio can support them very nicely via Donate BP.
Honestly shocked that Reimi from Last Hope isnt on this list. Crimson Squall, a level 25 ability, is the only ability she needs to carry the game. Its pretty much a challenge to NOT use her since she is in the party from the start of the game. Precis from 2nd story is also a contender, in NG+ scenarios especially. She can easily hit the damage cap with the limiter removed with her ultimate weapon. The worst offender of this however has to go to Orlandeau from FFT. You can't mention Radiant Dawn and Harr without mentioning the Square Enix counterpart. Dude can solo the game.
If you are talking about the mother of all evasion tanks, you are talking about Mao from Shining Tears. Form a party with her as the lead and Elwyn as your backup as a lethal gatling gun and you can overrun all the enemies in the Heavenly tower no problem
11:35 that is indeed a massive damage. but there's one thing you forgot about one of the characters. and the reason why he should've been n1. Orlandu from FF tactics DOES NOT NEED ANY SETUP. he is broken from the moment you get him, you dont need to do anything beyond putting him on the team for him to destroy everything in his path. at most, put equipment on him. IF you want to make him better, all you need to do is give him dual wield, and possibly one of the better defensive abilities. but at that point its already overkill. what makes orlandu so broken, is not that he is is strong, or that he has access to all knight classes skills. but because he has access to dark knight skills, which, in the base game, HE IS THE ONLY ONE who can. and those skills not only allow him to dish out one shots left and right, but also heal for the ammount of damage he has delivered. and sure you cna make anyone broken in FFT. but the fact orlandu is from the moment you get him basically an OP Boss character that is playable.
I discover the exploit of EV of cold steel thaks to you. I wanted to cry while I remember how I left out Fie from my team after seeing how easy she can overcome the bosses. Great video!!!
I had a similar reaction my first time through Cold Steel hahahaha. I didn't realize how valuable EVA was until I started trying the optional bosses in CS2 hahahaha. Now I can't picture playing through without an eva tank
I don't why evade attacks when 4x 99,999 S crafts/4x 500,000 S crafts in 1 turn ON EASY mode will still kill everything in Mere seconds 4x 100% Evade users is good and all but it will still GIMP your s craft damage that even on easy mode its not worth it. Heck in the current game Reverie/Hajimari's dub I won't use a SINGLE Evade user and use a full Str setup to try to 1 turn kill the post game bosses at lv 250 on VERY EASY mode in UNDER 30 seconds.
Legend of Heroes really is a breeding ground for OP characters with the power creep that kept going, especially from Azure onward with master quartz and how the bell quartz worked in that game, but Reverie really brings that to its peak. If not characters, combat features can be OP, from using brave orders and united fronts to be practically immortal, but I liked trying to theory craft broken builds as Reverie allowed practically everyone to become a broken monster to the point tier lists barely matter. One setup I had on one character allowed that single character to achieve 100% win condition by just having 60 CP on her first turn. Altina with Erda master quartz and caliburn/Beowulf sub (I prefer caliburn for space arts). You get a character that can infinitely sustain stealth with the CP buildup and their own EP. Literally just cast Ebon Shade once every 2 turns, using the odd turns for art casts. I was able to make it work even in the mid game without all the busted quartz and accessories. Because you don't need an evasion tank or a chained delay spam when the enemy literally turns into a braindead punching bag wasting all of their turns doing nothing at all. Also, in later games I feel Sara is a better evasion tank than Fie. Sara can self-buff with max str, max speed AND insight plus also has a ranged counter where Fie's self-buff grants stealth, which defeats the purpose of counter attacking. I end up using Fie for status spraying
Choco from Arc the Lad. She's in all the games (5 main entries in total on console). She's a kid that wipes the floor with everybody, even the final boss in all the games! Trolling before it was mainstream, I tell ya
Cold Steel/Reverie Trails are weird to rank on these kind of lists imo. Pretty much anyone can break the game in half with the right setup, but Fie is an objectively good shout even by those standards just for ease of use. I still would’ve liked to see Richard on this list for a Trails character instead, since he’s just so much stronger than the rest of the cast of Sky the 3rd.
Atelier Iris 2 has Gray you just get given 5 mins into the game, outtanks every other character combined, outdamages all but 1 super late game character combined and has 0 downsides. Sid in this list isn't really an example. His weapon is. You can take his end-game+ weapon and give it to literally anyone and they'll 1 shot most enemies. The chick you get like 5 maps in with holy sword skills does about as well as Cid with that sword.
I'd say Riku and Ronzo are actually more broken than Waka in Final Fantasy 10. If you play the game without using a single sphere, they are capable of handling virtually everything in the game. (Stone breath instant deaths virtually every common mob, and Riku's Mix skill allows absurd damage even without stat investment.)
On easy mode spell damage SUCKS so Emma is pure CRAP and her CP regen skills are PURE CRAP since using Zeram Powders/Capsules on Rean Laura Millium in the first game + the 3 + Sarah in CS2 on easy mode is all you need to 1 shot bosses with 4x 99,999 S crafts 4x 500,000+ damage ones in the 2nd game.
Correct me if im wrong but Raigar from Enchanted Arms has an EX skill that reduces so much damage that the only problem is you breeze through the rest of the game. The post game dungeon was really difficult for me cause I was underleveled because of this.
@@locloudanerpg looking at your channel uploads, I am actually not new…I watched your Xenoblade 3 class tier list a while ago haha. Don’t know why I didn’t subscribe then Edit: also watched your SO6 character tier list. I’m a fan of your content 😂
Edgar's brokenness comes from the early game where the next best damage options come from his brother Sabin and his blitzes. Once you hit the second half of the game, Edgar's Tools become outdated, and his best damage setup is either the Dragoon setup (Dragon Horn/Dragoon Boots) or the Master Scroll/Offering (depending on which version you play) and Genji Glove with Ultima Weapon and whatever your next most powerful sword is (Illumina/Lightbringer most likely). That's not unique to Edgar, though, as Terra, Locke, and Celes can do just as well with Master Scroll/Genji Glove (Locke slightly better because he has the Valiant Knife as an option), Setzer can do ok with Fixed Dice and the Master Scroll (might be a bit too random for some players' tastes), and Mog can do the Dragoon setup as well.
THE most broken party member in JRPG is Selphie in FF8. She can oneshot every enemy and boss except Ultimecia because her battle phases are hard coded. Everyone else, including super boss? Gg, Selphie uses"The End"
But her limit break is unreliable, the chance of it showing up in her slot limit break is extremely low, while your cycling through the magic slots the enemies can attack you And the truth is, you don’t need it, you can easily dispatch enemies with other characters limit break
the minute you said tales of vesperia i was like "oh is this that girl that does blah blah blah TIDAL WAVE!" SURE ENOUGH OVERLIMIT ACTIVATED > TIDAL WAVE! LOL
even ignoring the most optimal setup for poppiqtpi there is another thing that makes tora broken in that game, perhaps even more so since its easier to use. the fact that across all his poppis, tora has access to the entire blade combo. and not just that, but the break of qtpi is a 3 hit with 3 chances to break, so really easy to break enemies a broken enemy is then quickly toppled and launched, while launched they take more damage or you can just smash them for a burst of damage and item frops. also the moment an enemy is toppled or launched they cant do anything, allowing tora to stunlock most enemies and bosses in the entire game. so even if you barely customize them, the poppis reign supreme
Id say Irvine is more broken in ff8 mostly due to the fact that as soon as you can make AP ammo he pretty much does 9999 every time. And thats by the second disc
I thought I had made this clear in the video but Fie’s placement is based off of Cold Steel 1 & 2. I’m seeing a-lot of comments mentioning characters from the later titles.
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kinda surprised you didn't include laura considering if you build her correctly her S craft is not only a screen wipe but is also capable of one shotting ANY BOSS IN THE GAME
best girl
pretty sure emma can 1 shot the final boss in the second game too
cs3/4 reverie Fie is stupid broken
The fun part with Rita is the casting itself. She always do a speach before cast, but when you activate de special, she just change all the speach for a "blablabla" before the cast.
That always made me chuckle.
Bleu from Breath of Fire II. She's the secret character, the returning one from the first game, and she is absolutely broken. Her special move, which is mostly just a gimmick in the case of the others, is a full heal that SLIGHTLY drops her defense for a turn, that you can use every turn. And she has a stat growth that will max her stats completely by the end even if you don't abuse stat up items.
Don't forget that since Bleu doesn't use Shaman Fusion, you'll also have a lot of combinations available for your other two non-Ryu party members.
Finally someone recognizes Breath of Fire 2.
@@Sayrden the problem with shaman combos was the illusion of choice. There really wasn't.
Damn straight Erik is broken. Once he gets set up, he just absolutely melts basically everything.
Decent list, but I think Orlandu should have been top spot; for all the reasons you mentioned and, no setup is needed. He is game-breakingly lethal right out of the box!
Cream The Rabbit in Sonic Chronicles The Dark Brotherhood. Her refresh ability restores the whole parties MP including Cream herself and you can upgrade skills level 3 refresh costs 8 MP to cast but restores 15.
Funny enough she's completely busted in Sonic Advance 2,she a part of the easy mode in Sonic Heroes,she's top tier in Sonic Battle and even after nerfing her in Sonic Advance 3 the best duo in the game is Knuckles and Cream with Sonic and Cream in second place.
And she don't need no chaos emeralds.
I have to do a dark chronicles tier list!
Cream is absurdly strong in almost every game appearance....
only exception is maybe sonic heroes, but her solo attack of sending cheese after enemies basically oneshots almost every non-boss enemy in the game
@@locloudanerpg chronicles is very simple on who is better than others. cream and omega are the optional choices but they are better than half of the cast you get in the story. Tails while kind of weak and a worse cream you are kind of forced to use him in some segments in the game can't say the same for rouge or big where it's clear what their job roles are that being thief and tank but they do not work in this game
@@locloudanerpg The Advance games and Dark Brotherhood are the origin of the gaming term, "cheesing." Similar to how the term, metagame is derived from Meta Knight in Smash Bros. Brawl.
@@REALmikegordan Really? I had no idea that's where that came from!
You could add in your criteria the sooner they became broken and the more content there are in the game, the higher the character is on this list. For exemple, if a character is broken very late in the game and there is only the final boss to fight, well it's not really worth it.
I like that idea
The same thing can be apply for the worst. @@locloudanerpg
It's like getting the most powerful weapon before the final dungeon
I like the idea fie broke but the reason she broke wasn't because she is evasive tank but her range to counter is wide mid meaning no matter how far the enemies normally attack do to her, she will counter them back!!
Since in trails, building evasion tank is already a method since crossbell duology😂
Since most jrpgs have secret bosses, there is no point in where you get them. It could be bad for the game if they were given too early.
Joon-gi Han in Yakuza: Like A Dragon is obscenely busted. He has a move called Head Trauma that only costs 6 MP and does insane damage to a single enemy, has access to 3 different damage types, has self buffs and can inflict status ailments...and that's just his default class.
Haha, yeah I always kept him in my party.
Since he joined I always kept him on my party, and just uses his default job, Hitman, he's a very cool character story-wise and gameplay-wise.
ABSOLUTELY. His cheapest skill is incredibly powerful!
One key element to Fie's evasion that sets her apart from others is that she can counter regardless of range. She is the only one who can counter evaded gunfire or long range attacks regardless of where she is on the field. You can do that similar setup with Crow, but there's definitely a reason you've picked her. Rean would avoid it but wouldn't encounter, and it won't occur until cold steel 3 and 4, but in the first two entries Elliot and Emma wouldn't be able to evade everything
I think Sara has a ranged counter, too.
@@tecanec9729 She does. Imo, she's also straight up better than Fie for the simple fact that her Lightning Charge grants her a massive STR/SPD buff AND Insight in a single skill.
In Breath of Fire III, Rei with a master that boosts agility and the correct battle formation can make everyone in your party have an extra turn, every single turn. You basically build him to be too fast for even the final boss, then slap the Chain Formation to make the other party members just as fast. Absolutely busted.
I do that to Ryu, as he is always in the party.
Raquel Wild Arms 4, KOSMOS Xenosaga 3, and Freya Valkyrie Profike 1 and 2.
One of my favorite ways to replay FF8 is too give Zell the HP- Junction Ability ASAP, refine 100 Curagas, and keep him critical for the rest of the game. Just melting Boss HP with Armageddon Fist
Or on the PS4 remaster KEEP the INFINITE HP cheat on since its also a INFINITE LIMIT break cheat in FF8's PS4 remaster if playing that one.
Later on, I kept Quistis in the party for her broken Mighty Guard. Limit Breaks for everyone!
Zells limit is so funny too. Hit certain combos to gain access to stronger moves? Lmao no thanks I’ll just get 50 beat rush heel drops instead.
How is he compared to squall renzokuzen?
@@stevenkurniawan6521 Lion Heart does more damage than Zell can output. Lion Heart is luck based though and so on average Zell will probably put out more damage consistently.
What I love about the post-Cold Steel Trails is that the EVA Tanks became something like the norm (I haven't played the last two, Kuro no Kiseki 1 and 2, so I don't know if you can still EVA your way to victory).
But the broken fun in those games only starts with the EVA Tanks.
There's ATS cannons, Craft Machines, Bait Tanks, Assists, Orders, Debuffers, True Domination-Rean (because of the name of the quartz you use), and so on. The key to completely break the game is to mix the EVA Tanks with the others, then you are essentially untouchable, and can blow holes into the opposition with impunity, and without ever being targeted or allowing the enemy room to even sneeze.
Hell, make your EVA Tanks also Bait Tanks with the Aegis MQ, and just watch as the enemy tries to kill an unouchable counter machine while everybody else nukes them.
Reverie is especially broken in this area, what with the sheer amount of playable characters and quartz, master or otherwise.
You can imitate some of these broken things in the pre-Cold Steel games (the Sky trilogy and Zero and Azure), but it's only from CS 1 that the devs made them a "let's break the game" competition.
In Sky you had Joshua, Agate, Kevin, Kloe, Renne and Richard (in Sky 3rd), and in Zero and Azure each SSS member is pretty much breakable with the right MQ/Quartz/Equip combo.
You can make Aaron Wei a good evasion tank. I did
Honestly, in CS3, 4 and reverie, EVA tanks aren't the most broken things, you can just use orders to get infinite turn with character that easily unbalance the enemies or character that directly give order point (looking at you mister Lloyd "Burning Heart" Bannings)
Just throwing out this idea, why not make this a series. There are so many broken characters in video games. You could get more content just for that alone. I like your videos. I recently started doing the Trails series, and your videos helped me decide what my final party members are going to be in endgame cold steel 1 and 2, as well as Sky FC.
Um this video is one of my most watched vids in a year. There Will absolutely be more on the way!
@@locloudanerpgNice!
RE:Orlandu: He's also the only character I know of, who can end a boss battle in a single turn. One of the later fights in the game, against one of the zodiac knights, the caster mage, if you put Orlandu in a specific spot in the starting lineup, he will go first, and be in range to hit the boss with the armor break attack he has. This will always one-shot said boss, instantly ending the battle.
Orlandu is easily one of my all time favourite characters in any RPG.
His character, play style and abilities are what made me fall in love with Paladin's when I was a kid 😊
He wasn't a Paladin. lol@@davosan6782
Just good Gameplay and Story Integration.
They said that Cid was outrageously powerful, only compared to Barbaneth. That he could decimate armies by himself.
And when you get him in your party he does just that~
I mean, by that point Ramza, Agrias and my 3 generics where their very own pantheon of physical gods thanks to their plethora of skills and synergies.
But Orlandeu could very well keep up with them (even if in a very simple and straight forward manner) with just his base class and equipment (unlike the other special characters).
@@Trasgobardo and yet Delita still threatens you and acts he and the rest of the world dont live because you choose for them too while you kill the other physical god trying to wreck the world so they dont get eaten
sorta... people like to mention orlandu as the broken one... here's an unfortunate part here.
Orlandu isn't exactly as OP as people make it. He's OP because of the sword.
However, Melidoul and Agrias are better in their respective sword skills. First, they have higher base stats (or rather potential if you leveled up right) and second... they're women. FFT favors women far more than men because of equipment and accessories.
In this regard Orlandu is only better BECAUSE he can use both sword skills, not that he's better with them. But there's not really a case where you'd say "hey, orlandu... I want you to use one this turn and the other the next". Melidoul is clearly broken in this one though because the divine sword skills are better on almost any fight that matters. The only thing she suffers at is fighting monsters which outside 2 fights isn't an issue. Agrias fairs better there. The dark knight skill set was kind of useless in the end though.
Good list. T.G. Cid literally joins your party and wipes the end of the game. You dont need to change his equips, moves etc. He's just that good.
exactly why i belive he should've been n1. every single other character in this list need some setup, you need to build them right. if you dont change anything in orlandu's class or equipment, he will still delete the entire game. and then you can do make him stronger.
Yeah
That's what I call that "Gameplay and Story Integration"
As quoted from Tvtropes:
"Orlandeau, who is described in the backstory as jaw-droppingly powerful and skilled enough to defeat entire armies... and, well, when you get him on your side, he is-and unlike the other characters who join your party at a set level, he is always at the party level the game uses to calculate random encounters (so if your 4 + Ramza is maxed out at 99...)
Peter from Shining Force 2. A flying beast of an attacker that can tank hits due to high HP, decent Def, and has a natural resistance to fire spells..
He also flies giving him the best possible mobility and auto-ressurects himself after a fight if he actually dies
Zerase in Suikoden 5 is pretty and broken. Use her for easy mode.
Her Star Rune plus a Magic Absorb Rune is definitely busted.
What's even more busted, however, is any character in Suikoden 2, 3, 4, and 5 that has three Rune slots and a very high attack. Some combination of Fury, Double-Beat, and Double-Strike runes (or their equivalents) can cause a character to do enough damage to one-round (if not one-shot) a final boss!
I expected Rikku from FFX to make the list. If you know her good mixes you can beat the game without using the sphere grid.
exactly what i said in another comment...
wakka is better on damage but still needs some of rikku's utility anyway, especially long before you can do 5 digit damage. rikku should have been honorable mention instead
Valsu Saizer from 7th Saga. Late game he gets a spell called Elixer, and it fully heals a character. Seems simple, but here is the catch; it also fully restores MP, including the MP used for the spell itself. As long as you have access to Elixer, you have effectively unlimited MP.
If he can survive long enough since enemies will still one-shot your guys in end game.
Rose from Tales of Zestiria is one of my favorites, spamming her Dream Slasher does insane damage at times.
BOF 3 was my fave RPG back in 2009-2010... Peco was also my fave post-game tank especially on how fricking broken he is... He can literally counter any physical attacks and a great meat shield... Thanks to you I'm thinking of replaying this game again!
BoF 3 ending still messes with my emotions.
To go to an earlier game in the Legend of Heroes Trails series...
Kloe in specifically Trails in the Sky FC is REALLY op. Well, it's more like her pet bird Sieg is. In FC, that Kaempfer attack that Kloe has essentially makes your opponent do 0 damage to your whole party while simultaneously skyrocketting your own attack back. That attack CUT YOUR OPPONENT'S ATTACK AND DEFENSE IN HALF. And the way the damage calculations work, even small changes in attack/defense would drastically increase or decrease the damage dealt to someone.
That bird got nerfed into the ground in the sequel where it went from -50% for both atk & def down to a measly -10% and -15% for atk & def respectively, which goes to show how OP Kaempfer was in FC.
I'd say Yuna is actually stronger than Wakka, especially since most people will be playing the HD version these days where certain Aeons got buffed. Anima and the Magus Sisters can now do multiple hits of max damage, summoning is the easiest way to get around devastating attacks, and Aeons can often solo bosses throughout the story.
In Namco x Capcom, Kos-Mos is absolutely busted. You can't lose if you have her on your team!
I gotta disagree with number 8. When playing casually, Meru will certainly be your best character. She's got the most speed and her final addition is the best *multiplier* in the game (but keep in mind that her low strength mostly balances this out). However, her fatal flaw is joining late. She doesn't join *that* late, but the actual most broken character in the game just happens to join almost right away: Shana. At just 5 less speed and noticeably higher magic stat, Shana is a real life nuke that trivializes the entire game.
You get her before the first boss, and the game practically begs you to spam magic items with her because her regular attack is by far the worst (and least fun) in the game, and they always happen to give you the item that's strong against the next boss. The only downside to the Shana nuke is that the 32 item limit requires you to know the game well enough to manage your inventory in a way that allows you access to the items you need. As a bonus, once you get Meru, she can assist with the magic spam, but Shana is still the star of the show by far.
It was a hard one. Shanas magic stat and item abuse can be crazy.
Also, Rikku is more busted than Wakka in FF10.... she has 64 potential overdrive when you learn the system of her mix and it's her alone that allows you to NEVER need break HP limit and break MP limit for any fight. Wakka is stronger on the damage front, but Rikku is overall more busted. plus, she can let you deal 9999 damage with every hit very early in the game, which compounds onto wakka's overdrive at a time where you're probably struggling to even get 1000 in a hit.
For early game, Rikku is more busted with Trio of 9999/Quartet of 9. Late game Wakka is throwing out 99999 x12 hits with his Overdrive, so Trio of 9999/Quartet of 9 is not helping him there.
@@killerb255 while true, she's still needed for the null all stuff among other things or you'll have trouble getting those attack reels off anyway.
in fact, she's still a must if you want to avoid getting break HP limit, as it's possible to beat every fight in the game without it.
plus i can't really call it "Early game" since you likely won't even be capable of dealing more than 9999 in a hit without some insane grinding or already having cleared zanarkand which is the end of the game basically.
Haborym from the original PS1/SNES Tactics Ogre is a beast. Incredibly fast, and with Petrify magic can disable most of the enemy team by turn 2 or 3.
Ozma in the Psp version is also just fucking broken all cuz of her low WT she is insanely fast if I recall correctly she can get 2 turns to the 2nd fastest characters 1 which gives you like 6 turns for every enemies 1.
Erik's combo in DQ11 is the reason i immediately started a 2nd playthrough after beating the game. It was something i figured out far to late in my 1st playthrough, and i wanted to abuse it early in my 2nd playthrough.
Fie in CS 2 was how I got into her story more and love her as a character. I didn't even got full evasion like you said in set up, but she had an evasion state of like 65 percent and was BUSTED
The funny thing is CS2 also makes her busted in a different way at the same time - it gives her a Stealth craft, and that buff is an entirely different level of broken because its main effect is basically "impossible to be targeted by any enemy". This is how I discovered that the forced-loss battles in CS2 just... end a few turns after what's supposed to be a wipe, because she just Stealthed her way through one to not get hit. Its *other* effect is guaranteed crits on crafts, which leans into a bunch of other mechanics and even just raw damage
Don't forget either: the Shining art grants Evasion +50%, so if you want the extra turn of setup you only need 50% evade, which is trivial even in the midgame.
Combine that with the fact the AI will ALWAYS target the closest opponent to them, and Fie becomes unstoppable until the final boss (who has an undodgable attack she probably can't tank).
Also, Laura with max DPS and the quartz that makes her first skill used per battle do double damage can one-shot most things if fully buffed on a crit. RNG specific, but it's fun killing superbosses in one attack.
Stealth should have been removed from the game after CS2 showed how unbalanced the mechanic was. Glad Kuro weakens it greatly. Stealth was a mistake. Too bad Kuro hard nerfed physical builds after Reverie put the balance in teh right direction again in terms of character options.@@TARDISES
@@dave9515 And the funny thing is that Stealth was still a bit weaker in CS2 than it was in Azure simply because I don't recall a stealth-granting food item (which is relevant because Moebius exists) in CS2. Of course, with that party-wide stealth potential came the risk of softlocks. Which I did run into on my last playthrough. Do not try it against the plant cryptids, they literally don't know what to do if they don't have a target.
Fie busted indeed at CS2 since she can counter with range attack unlike CS1 fie only counter with melee. i manage to get over 100% evasion rate on her and no boss can even lift finger on her even in nightmare difficulty xD.
"Eric can one-hit any boss"
Proceeds to hit the enemy GAZILLION times.
Man I loved Erik, hes such a bro, such a powerful bro, I'd always want him as a homie.
Good stuff man, I'm always pretty hype to see your stuff, I always love your selection of games man!
Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to write this. Thanks for the support
I can't wait !! As a kid I wasn't aware of God Peco in Breath of Fire 3 I knew there could be something there but I just couldnt connect the pieces! I juat loved Ryu, Rei, and Nina ! Also still wishing I could beat the Unicorn Bros. as kid Ryu and somehow get Teepo as a permanent party member !
Yeah it’s a fun exploit but I would have never figured it out as a kid.
Exactly!! I barely figured out Rei Weretiger and influence lolol
My last time playing Breath of Fire 3 I challenged myself to not use peco at all because he gets so insane.
@@cam9144 He absolutely gets insane ! I remember searching all over for Teepo as well ! Only to be crushed lol I would sometimes challenge myself to use Momo because she seemed bad but she just had to have something..... She didn't but I thought the same with Garr lolol Man now I want to replay Breath of Fire 3.... Definitely an amazing soundtrack doesn't hurt
@@JMartini810 - Momo is fantastic when you train her under a master (currently forget) that can boost her accuracy. Then there's some equipment that does as well. Then I gave her a monster skill that has a high chance to crit and she was blasting everything while being a great supporting class. I trained Ryu to be really high in magic so his dragon forms would pop off and last longer.
TG Cid of course is GOAT. Peco could be overlooked until you realize that he's getting massive stat boosts every friggin level until he's just completely unstoppable.
Ash the Vandalier...The most broken unit in Tactical RPG every created.
As well as having insane dodge potential, Fie is a natural speedster, only beaten by Sarah amongst the core class 7 team, if I remember correctly. Her weapons have two "damage types" for unbalancing at mid-proficiency, which meant she was triggering support strikes more regularly than those with a single damage type at higher proficiency.
I usually built Fie in speed, dodge, and crit and paired her up with Laura who is fully built in power and crit. Everyone in my party had one gem that caused delay + disrupt. This meant that Fie could strike at least 4 times before the enemy could... and each time she had a big chance of dragging the high-powered Laura into the strike... some bosses simply couldn't act... especially those that relied on crafts and arts, as those would always be interrupted either by Fie, Rean, or Sarah. Laura rarely had a turn but tanks to Fie, she always actively participated in the fights in a major way, support striking 10k+ damage when Fie did about 3k and Rean 4 to 5k.
Any time I could get that formation, it would be smooth sailing until I couldn't use it. (Cold Steel games have a tendency to strip half the team from the available pool until the final part of the game and the school chapters.)
I would of started throwing hands if Maria wasn't on this list and at the very least in the top 5. Man knows his stuff.
Also, I expected any unit from any Disgaea game to be on here. Like literally, ANY unit.
You can tell the difference between chads and idiots if they know how to break Peco
I would offer up Bleu from Breath of Fire 2. Ridiculously high stats gets all the most powerful magics in the game well before everyone else and is nigh literally immortal because she can full heal herself at any time for no cost using Shed lol I would also say Geno might be more broken than Peach because of the Genowhirl trick letting him basically one shot every enemy in the game including almost all the bosses.
And I think TG Cid might be too low.. When he gets high Brave stat, the Blade Grasp skill, Robe of Lords and the Eschuteon II he's unkillable. 95% chance to avoid any attack thrown at him with auto haste the most damage in the game bar a calculator and moves that can heal him back to full. Only thing near as busted is like Agrias with a similar setup and the Chantage because she becomes literally immortal with it but not as pants on head broken as Cid because he gets every swordskill in the game and his stats are just ridiculously higih. Half decently, let alone the utter broken setup I mentioned before Cid can solo the entire game with no issue and no in fight setup just set him free. Hell put his AI on auto and watch the slaughter.
Can't wait for the next list! I wonder how high Velvet Crow will rank. Because there's no way she isn't on the most broken MCs list.
Her being absolutely busted is kinda par for the course, for the lore of the game. She's _supposed_ to be ungodly powerful, it's literally written into her story. ToB in general is a huge power trip emo fantasy, and it is very unapologetic about it. And that's why most people love that game. They did this, because they desperately needed a Tales game to really succeed like no other Tales game ever succeeded before, because the previous game (Zestiria...) was rather a stinker that not very many people liked. So, they went all out with Velvet, giving her a revealing outfit, emo personality, the flashiest attacks ever, an incredibly emotional backstory, a killer VA (at least the English version) that knocked her performance out of the park, especially the opening scenes of the game, and a sweet cherry on top, making her OP as hell. And it worked. Berseria remains near the top of just about anybody's Tales of lists, or even JRPGs in general.
Sees title and sees Orlandu...... I'm already pleased lol
Every video I watch mention xenoblade chronicles 2 makes me want to play it again more. One day. Hopefully before they remaster it on the switch 2
I absolutely saw runelord Tressa coming, staple of my favourite game :)
"Top 10 Broken RPG Party Members"
*Dog from Arcanum:* Yeah. Fuck me.
I try to never break my games in the first play, but if the game asks me to do it I won't hold back
Good philosophy
I recognize a lot of these picks, either from having played the games they came from (Rita, Tressa, Eric, Fie, Poppi) or learning of their absurd reputation through osmosis given how many RPGs I play (Thunder God Cid, Zell).
I don’t see people talk about Trails often so seeing Fie in particular on this list was a very pleasant surprise. In the Cold Steel era of the series evasion tanks can become truly absurd, and Fie’s increased range for counters makes her incredibly broken as an evasion tank. And if you thought CS1/2 Fie was already untouchable, the later games (CS4 and Reverie especially) allow for her to access even more ridiculous builds. It’s a case of a strong character only getting better with time. Between that and her easily being one of my favorite members of Class VII, it’s little wonder she stayed a permanent fixture of my team whenever possible. XD
about star ocean 2, there are two op characters that are kind overlooked, noel and chisato, in this game mages suck, noel is a mage and kind a worst healer than Rena, however he can equip the best armor in the game the blood armor, you are imortal however your hp rapiddly drecresses, the point is, he has a party wide heal, and if you give it enough proficiency he can heal out the dmg of the blood armor, and chisato is know for her high dps, but never saw anyone using her imortal build, there is a weapon called the phantom slayer that you can find in the post game dungeon, this weapon also has the passive to heal you based on the damage you heal, so she can became imortal with blood armor, she can solo the superboss of that game with easy, of you find maria broken, let me say the combo chisato noel turns star ocean 2 in a idle game
The only problem with that is NOEL IS PURE CRAP if you really want to use 4 Bloody armor users Opera MUST be one of them have Healing Star at 999 uses and Bloody armor Claude Chisato and Dias on a Rena game and Bowman if you can't USE Dias at all.
Actually even wit 999 Fairy Light//Heal users Noel will NEVER outheal a 999 use Healing Star and Unlike Rena he doesn't HAVE a USE healing ONLY spells AI at all so he's still PURE CRAP.
@@veghesther3204 dude, i did it with easy in both versions, you only need to put off all of his other spells, the best party i did was chisato, claude, noel and opera, and with only 500 uses noel can out heal the dmg
With Opera in the party Noel is still pure CRAP and even with Fairy Light/Heal as his ONLY spells turned on he will almost NEVER use them so I'll never have him join the party EVER so bloody armor Claude Opera Chisato Dias/Bowman ONLY.
Even with 500 uses Noel is NOT likely to outheal HEALING star since I pretty much has Noel's Fairy Light/heal ONLY restore 2000 HP at ANY USE count.
Healing Star is also instant WITHOUT a charge up time spell charging is still LETHAL with the Blood armors HP drain effect.
FE8 Seth has gotta make the list
He’s called “Thunder God” for a reason.
Saw Fie in the title and I got flashbacks to the best evasion tank in the game. just plop her in the middle of a horde and watch them waste their turns trying to scratch her after-after images 😅
Xenoblade 3: Noah
-Noah for most of the game isn’t really amazing. However, once Noah gets Lucky 7, you basically win. It is an automatic AOE full driver combo. It is so utterly broken that it invalidates the rest of the game. Have a mob of monsters, you launch smash all of them at once and just kill them. Have a super boss? Buff yourself and then launch smash them and they are either dead and just about dead. Lucky 7 is one of the most broken things I’ve played with in massive JRPGs
Add capable hands and it's a wrap
Isn't FMJ full evasion the meta now?
For evade builds there are lots of options and one is stalker which is surprisingly better than FMJ with falsh fencer arguably the best at being an evade tank for some reason. The meta is awakened seraphs with support soulhacker, mash, signifier and troubadour user and by signifier medic signifer and masha troubadour or some other class and troubadour but the important ones are masha class, soulhacker, and signifier for supports and having mainly seraphs for attackers with of course no tanks unless its lone exile cause thats the only good and amazing tank class endgame. FR is abusing mathew and killing everything mad fast or endgame using Rex and spamming spinning edge and shredding everything in chain attacks. Xenoblade 3 meta doesn't matter much when you can debuff every boss and also just make almost any team work for the most part. Its much less restricting than 2 for the most part.@@juancarlosfernandezperez6843
Not to mention the weapon has a built-in really high probability insta kill effect on basically every attack. This means you are probably one shotting everyone before you even have the chance to build your special attack (this doesn't affect bosses, but just kill them with the special attack itself, it already acts like a one shot anyway)
I agree, Poppy is definetly broken. 8 billion is definitely a number. But I still love pulling out lucky seven in xenoblade 3 using capable hands, spam tachion slash and, if there is still an enemy alive after the doom effect, use final lucky seven and even superbosses die in two hits if i'm not using a chain attack. The animation itself of Noah gently touching the blade at the start is just magnificent.
For me, late Game in Xc 2 is almost: build 2x or 3 orbs, full trigger bar, summon out Pneuma. An lot blades do high damage (zenobia, dagdas, newt, kosmos)
My boy Garrus in Mass Effect 3 can carry you through Insanity difficulty so he'd really mop up on lower difficulties.
Just search up Garrus ascends to god hood.
Ryu's Agni form is totally broken which he had to use against final boss in order to get best ending. Peppita from Star Ocean 3, Robin from Fire Emblem Awakening, Elwin from Der Langrisser, War Lady from Disgaea 6/7, and Veronica from Dragon Quest 11 deserves to mention too.
I didn't think Rita was even an above average character tbh. If you wanted to go with a Tales of Character, I'd recommend Marta from the 2nd Tales of Symphonia. If you get enough speed casts on her she can cast like instantly, and with technical III she also has like infinite TP. Combined with that she can give your whole party autolife status makes it impossible to lose. And she can heal, support, and attack, too.
Something you neglected to mention about Eric is that his move Critical Claim is great in the mid-game for killing Metal Slimes and getting level-ups faster for everyone in the party
Maria's literally The Best. Aiming Device chaining is too good and when you get Energy Burst the game plays itself lmao
A honorable mention could be Pleinair in the first Disgaea.
She comes with S rank in Guns and a huge Hit growth, and you can get her as soon as you can NG+, which if you let the first chapter boss beat you can be as early as half an hour into the game. Then you can start using her as your main damage dealer since Hit controls both damage with guns and the chance to hit and crit on enemies. Sure, any unit in Disgaea can become powerful enough to solo everything eventually, but Pleinair can carry you through most of that even before you start engaging with most mechanics.
Mighty Orlandu are always in this kind of list
Now imagine Orlandu having Math Skill...
For Fie, I do see why you would think she's the best, as she is one of the few character that ca counter attack ranged attacks and has a 25% base evade stat, however I do think Rean might be best (in cs1 and 2 of course) because of one thing, delay, he can just delete enemy turn with his delay craft and some quartz impede, as well as still having 100% evade since everyone can have that in these games. You could also put in it Laura since she can, you know, one shot bosses with her S-craft at the start of the fight ?
Alex from Lunar Silver Star Story is kind of broken once he gets his Dragon Spells.
Glenn from Chrono Cross outclasses a lot of the characters and gets duel wielding of the Einlanzer.
Maybe not seen as broken idk, but Jade from Tales of the Abyss can become a wrecking machine once he has his best spells from the scrolls and the item to give you the quickest casting time AND easy field of fonon generation with wind in particular.
The reason why I think TG Cid from FFT should be #1 is because you don't even need to think about anything with him. Don't need to build him in any special way other than the most intuitive. All you gotta know is to just use lightning stab and that's it. He comes with the god damn Excalibur lmao
Yeah, evasion tank Fie is pretty broken. But so is Laura in her "Godslayer" build. Give her every piece of equipment and Quartz that pushes her STR, Tauros MQ and top it off with the Domination Quartz that doubles the damage of her first attack. If you then double buff her STR at the beginning of the fight, her S-Craft can pretty much onshot most bosses in the game. I think that was the reason they implemented the shieldbreak mechanic for the later games that makes you do less dmg until the defense of the enemy gets broken.
And you know what's even more broken? Link those girls togehter for the max amount of counter attack dmg. That way it makes a cakewalk out of the things that don't die instantly to Laura.
Partitio in Octopath 2 is pretty broken as well. Granted, that game can certainly be broken by a number of characters & builds, but Partitio is probably the most easily broken, provided you have money. Sidestep + Hang Tough+ Rest for survivability, Arrow of Fortune & Bifelgians bounty for grinding, Donate BP + An SP healing skill for the party, that alone removes alot of difficulty. Then you add Hired Help & Negotiate Schedule, and the game gets put on easy mode. Give him Full Power as a support skill, activate his latent, & a full BP hired Help just obliterates and/or breaks everything, opening up the enemy for the heavy hitters (Hikari, Throne, Ochette, possibly Oswald or Casti) to clean up. It's just insane.
I made mine an Inventor sub class, gave him Salt The Wound, plus the axe and spear that give +1 hit. Parti breaks the enemy, goes again because STW, donates BP to Hikari, Hikari abides, then next turn either uses brands blade or his latent power, and boom, enemy dead.
I'll have to keep this in mind, I'm playing the demo of that game and wasn't sure which units to use or how to build them. ❤
@@jaimereupert4247 it's a pretty customizable game, you can really find a party set up that works best with whatever play style you like. Can't go wrong with pretty much any party make up. Which is why I absolutely love that game.
He/She is one if the 8 people you can use as the MC, right? Not sure who's story to go through.
@@jaimereupert4247 yes sir, and his story is pretty good. Not at all a bad choice for your MC. If you do choose him as your main, I recommend going for Hikari or Throne as your second, those are primary damage dealers, Partitio can support them very nicely via Donate BP.
@@richardcaraballo1185 atm, I'm doing the Thief character, I forgot what their name was.
Honestly with the Cold Steel series its less "this character is most broken" but more "who do I want to make broken".
Honestly shocked that Reimi from Last Hope isnt on this list. Crimson Squall, a level 25 ability, is the only ability she needs to carry the game. Its pretty much a challenge to NOT use her since she is in the party from the start of the game. Precis from 2nd story is also a contender, in NG+ scenarios especially. She can easily hit the damage cap with the limiter removed with her ultimate weapon.
The worst offender of this however has to go to Orlandeau from FFT. You can't mention Radiant Dawn and Harr without mentioning the Square Enix counterpart. Dude can solo the game.
Seeing Rita on the thumbnail instantly made me go "TIDAL WAVE"
Omg I'm just glad to see the legend of heros getting recognition Fie is the best I love her
what about nemissa from soul hacker
If you are talking about the mother of all evasion tanks, you are talking about Mao from Shining Tears. Form a party with her as the lead and Elwyn as your backup as a lethal gatling gun and you can overrun all the enemies in the Heavenly tower no problem
11:35 that is indeed a massive damage. but there's one thing you forgot about one of the characters. and the reason why he should've been n1.
Orlandu from FF tactics DOES NOT NEED ANY SETUP. he is broken from the moment you get him, you dont need to do anything beyond putting him on the team for him to destroy everything in his path.
at most, put equipment on him. IF you want to make him better, all you need to do is give him dual wield, and possibly one of the better defensive abilities. but at that point its already overkill.
what makes orlandu so broken, is not that he is is strong, or that he has access to all knight classes skills. but because he has access to dark knight skills, which, in the base game, HE IS THE ONLY ONE who can. and those skills not only allow him to dish out one shots left and right, but also heal for the ammount of damage he has delivered.
and sure you cna make anyone broken in FFT. but the fact orlandu is from the moment you get him basically an OP Boss character that is playable.
I discover the exploit of EV of cold steel thaks to you. I wanted to cry while I remember how I left out Fie from my team after seeing how easy she can overcome the bosses. Great video!!!
I did too in my first playthrough.
I had a similar reaction my first time through Cold Steel hahahaha. I didn't realize how valuable EVA was until I started trying the optional bosses in CS2 hahahaha. Now I can't picture playing through without an eva tank
@@ntrotter1166 it is way more easy an EV tank than many other tactics. On CS 3 I used the EV tank and I think I could not beat the game without one
I don't why evade attacks when 4x 99,999 S crafts/4x 500,000 S crafts in 1 turn ON EASY mode will still kill everything in Mere seconds 4x 100% Evade users is good and all but it will still GIMP your s craft damage that even on easy mode its not worth it.
Heck in the current game Reverie/Hajimari's dub I won't use a SINGLE Evade user and use a full Str setup to try to 1 turn kill the post game bosses at lv 250 on VERY EASY mode in UNDER 30 seconds.
Legend of Heroes really is a breeding ground for OP characters with the power creep that kept going, especially from Azure onward with master quartz and how the bell quartz worked in that game, but Reverie really brings that to its peak. If not characters, combat features can be OP, from using brave orders and united fronts to be practically immortal, but I liked trying to theory craft broken builds as Reverie allowed practically everyone to become a broken monster to the point tier lists barely matter.
One setup I had on one character allowed that single character to achieve 100% win condition by just having 60 CP on her first turn.
Altina with Erda master quartz and caliburn/Beowulf sub (I prefer caliburn for space arts). You get a character that can infinitely sustain stealth with the CP buildup and their own EP. Literally just cast Ebon Shade once every 2 turns, using the odd turns for art casts. I was able to make it work even in the mid game without all the busted quartz and accessories.
Because you don't need an evasion tank or a chained delay spam when the enemy literally turns into a braindead punching bag wasting all of their turns doing nothing at all.
Also, in later games I feel Sara is a better evasion tank than Fie. Sara can self-buff with max str, max speed AND insight plus also has a ranged counter where Fie's self-buff grants stealth, which defeats the purpose of counter attacking. I end up using Fie for status spraying
my beloved fft is so broken and I wouldn't want it any other way
Choco from Arc the Lad. She's in all the games (5 main entries in total on console). She's a kid that wipes the floor with everybody, even the final boss in all the games! Trolling before it was mainstream, I tell ya
Unicorn? He is suppose to be a armadillo
I'm kinda shocked they didn't have Cold Steel's Laura on the list instead. FIE??!! She was the last person I thought of as Broken!
For the Dragon Quest XI, I thought it would've been the dancer guy with the Hustle Dance skill. 🤷
In love with adorable Rita Mordio.
Cold Steel/Reverie Trails are weird to rank on these kind of lists imo. Pretty much anyone can break the game in half with the right setup, but Fie is an objectively good shout even by those standards just for ease of use. I still would’ve liked to see Richard on this list for a Trails character instead, since he’s just so much stronger than the rest of the cast of Sky the 3rd.
orlandu need number 1 spot fr after u get him the game actives extremly easy mode on
Atelier Iris 2 has Gray you just get given 5 mins into the game, outtanks every other character combined, outdamages all but 1 super late game character combined and has 0 downsides.
Sid in this list isn't really an example. His weapon is. You can take his end-game+ weapon and give it to literally anyone and they'll 1 shot most enemies. The chick you get like 5 maps in with holy sword skills does about as well as Cid with that sword.
I'd say Riku and Ronzo are actually more broken than Waka in Final Fantasy 10.
If you play the game without using a single sphere, they are capable of handling virtually everything in the game. (Stone breath instant deaths virtually every common mob, and Riku's Mix skill allows absurd damage even without stat investment.)
This channel is criminally under subscribed
It’s because I don’t play minecraft
You actually mentioned Poppi Quantum Technochampion π
Pleasantly surprised there wasn't a Persona mention on this list. P5 exaggerated the hell out of the series.
Fie is broken, but the most broken character from those first two Cold Steel games is Emma, and it’s not even close. Then followed by Laura.
On easy mode spell damage SUCKS so Emma is pure CRAP and her CP regen skills are PURE CRAP since using Zeram Powders/Capsules on Rean Laura Millium in the first game + the 3 + Sarah in CS2 on easy mode is all you need to 1 shot bosses with 4x 99,999 S crafts 4x 500,000+ damage ones in the 2nd game.
I romanced Fie. She’s fantastic. Basically a cat lol
White haired Ninja Cat 😂.
Correct me if im wrong but Raigar from Enchanted Arms has an EX skill that reduces so much damage that the only problem is you breeze through the rest of the game. The post game dungeon was really difficult for me cause I was underleveled because of this.
My girl Zerase couldn’t even get an honorable mention? New to the channel, enjoyed the vid 👍
Haha oh no! I even did a Sui V list too! I’m sure we’ll make more in the future!
@@locloudanerpg looking at your channel uploads, I am actually not new…I watched your Xenoblade 3 class tier list a while ago haha. Don’t know why I didn’t subscribe then
Edit: also watched your SO6 character tier list. I’m a fan of your content 😂
@@DigitalMorph07 haha glad you made your way back! Welcome to the Family!
Edgar from Final Fantasy VI is pretty much broken at higher levels with the auto crossbow and drill.
Edgar's brokenness comes from the early game where the next best damage options come from his brother Sabin and his blitzes.
Once you hit the second half of the game, Edgar's Tools become outdated, and his best damage setup is either the Dragoon setup (Dragon Horn/Dragoon Boots) or the Master Scroll/Offering (depending on which version you play) and Genji Glove with Ultima Weapon and whatever your next most powerful sword is (Illumina/Lightbringer most likely).
That's not unique to Edgar, though, as Terra, Locke, and Celes can do just as well with Master Scroll/Genji Glove (Locke slightly better because he has the Valiant Knife as an option), Setzer can do ok with Fixed Dice and the Master Scroll (might be a bit too random for some players' tastes), and Mog can do the Dragoon setup as well.
imagine adding mid tressa when chad alfyn exists
THE most broken party member in JRPG is Selphie in FF8. She can oneshot every enemy and boss except Ultimecia because her battle phases are hard coded. Everyone else, including super boss? Gg, Selphie uses"The End"
But her limit break is unreliable, the chance of it showing up in her slot limit break is extremely low, while your cycling through the magic slots the enemies can attack you
And the truth is, you don’t need it, you can easily dispatch enemies with other characters limit break
the minute you said tales of vesperia i was like
"oh is this that girl that does blah blah blah TIDAL WAVE!"
SURE ENOUGH OVERLIMIT ACTIVATED > TIDAL WAVE! LOL
even ignoring the most optimal setup for poppiqtpi there is another thing that makes tora broken in that game, perhaps even more so since its easier to use.
the fact that across all his poppis, tora has access to the entire blade combo.
and not just that, but the break of qtpi is a 3 hit with 3 chances to break, so really easy to break enemies
a broken enemy is then quickly toppled and launched, while launched they take more damage or you can just smash them for a burst of damage and item frops.
also the moment an enemy is toppled or launched they cant do anything, allowing tora to stunlock most enemies and bosses in the entire game.
so even if you barely customize them, the poppis reign supreme
Maria is so busted in SO3. Her and Fayt could carry the whole game without even needing a 3rd party member.
Id say Irvine is more broken in ff8 mostly due to the fact that as soon as you can make AP ammo he pretty much does 9999 every time. And thats by the second disc
Fie is an absolute must in any trails game she is in her and rean just solo most battles it’s ridiculous
Fie breaks all the Cold Steel games, she's completely indestructible lol