100% agree with this list!! The optimal party was my main party without realizing they were the best and having access to broken strategies. Van and Agnes I never benched my entire play through and when Risette joined I benched Feri. Van I knew was gonna be the best he’s so powerful even for main protagonists standards. He has by far my favorite craft set. He might take the seat from Rean for most broken protagonist in the series. We’ll see with Daybreak 2 and eventually 3 if that will be the case. Great list!!
I just started this game yesterday after picking it up on the Black Friday Sale so this was really good find on my YT. Also, that appears to be a nice chest
Definitely agree with Van and Agnes on the top tiers Another super broken build i had with Van was to stack cp recovery passives and spam VANdalize raid/regal beatdown like a braindead monke, since those s-crafts have huge combo multipliers and Van having the Mare - Chaos holo core Also, obsidia ray is an art that delays enemies, stacking it with judgement feathers will make sure they never move lol
Whilst I can't watch this yet (paused at 1 second), thumbs up and all the hope it smashes the records! I'll be able to watch in a year when I get around to completing the game lol.
As someone who has played Kuro 1, II and a bit of Kai, I have to concede that this is pretty accurate. But with one expectation because I am biased, my boi Aaron is a permanent party member for me XP I have gotten his evasion high to the point of enemies missing almost all attacks his way. Mix in how evasion and crit share quartz and hollow cores that provide both and I have gotten his physical damage to ridiculous highs (also his single target back bonus attack is so fucking good 😊 melted some bosses using that in Kuro II)
Kinda scary how this list is very similar to mine! My final team ended up being the Van, Agnes, Risette and Judith. If Elaine or Shizuna was in the party as guests i'd usually tag them in place of Judith. Was kinda disappointed with Fie and Rixia as they were main stays in my Reverie playthrough but here they back seat characters.
My endgame team was Van, Agnes, Risette, Feri. They pretty much covered everything (Van main phys dps, Agnes main magic dps, Risette shielder and def buffer, Feri atk and cp buffer). Indeed, the only customizable member slot is Feri's.
I say this ranking is so accurate to my experience playing it. I would add to Aaron's entry in that he is excellent at stunning enemies prior to battle, and with the right setup they will basically be halfway beaten by the time other party members get to act: I actually had to stop using him because he kept being my employee of the month after each chapter. Feri is also excellent at the stunner role: the Slow stat is so underestimated but it prevents enemies from moving across the field, so combining that with stunning and the aggro strat and very few enemies could damage casters. I would also pair Van with the Grey Mare Holo Core because that extra evasion on top of aggro is super busted. Many reviewers don't state this, but using area of effect spells do wonders for CP gaining, and as a result Risette could always replenish it and guard the team. I've also done this to keep Judith charged. I also agree that Bergard unfortunately couldn't deliver comparatively, which is sad given how many games built him up as this powerhouse. And I agree that Quatre is a lesser version of other casters: they should have balanced him out with Agnes by making him the stronger caster: at the very least his ray attacks should have been stronger so boosting his ATS had more of a benefit. Or maybe have his crafts have more of a plaguing effect.
Van's Grendel is a one man army even in subsequent entries. Wish i could talk about how great Kai is but i know not everyone has access to it yet. I would say the broken protag trend started with Sky the third. Kevin was an evade tank and had grail sphere to protect everyone, then we got Lloyd barrier Bannings who evades like a boss and can almost do anything including nuke the planet for an s craft then we get install Rean who is heavily outclassed by Crow and now we have Van. They do address s craft loops with crimson sin by putting a cooldown timer and nerf it even more in kai by making it impossible to stack outside Grendel plus van. Also enemies can do sbreaks themselves starting crimson sin. Current best combat in the series is Kai No Kiseki imo.
I found Quatre to be busted. Build him to 100% crit rate and go full speed w/ him and you'll have the party fully healed at all times and the other 3 members being able to spam s craft.
I'm pretty shocked that there's an RPG series where physical attackers get outdone by magic users. And it's a shame how Trails is beating the Tales series when it comes to free customs now. That series used to be the king before Bamco got too greedy with DLC. Lastly, nice video dude, especially with them slaps. Looking forward to you covering stuff like Visions of Mana & Metaphor: ReFantazio.
Man, you sure got mileage on that slap! Very funny! But yeah, I’ve no idea how anyone beat this game without shields, there’s so much aoe and speed on the bosses!
Risette is way too broken lol, my team most of the time was Van, Agnes, Risette and Aaron, sometimes I substitute Aaron with Judith. The only reason I didnt use Feri at all mostly come down to not enjoying her character that much. My main damage dealer was Van, I set multiple quartz that break craft damage, so I mostly spam his craft that does more damage by the side (forget the name of the craft). Overall while the battle system is fun I didnt enjoy as much as compared to prior games
I honestly find Quatre better for defense than Anges and Risette with his shield. It’s twice as strong which honestly makes a big difference especially on higher difficulties. When playing Nightmare mode I find Anges and Risette shield useless and instantly breaks from a single enemy attack especially since there’s also Aegis Shield which is stronger than those. That shield alone is what makes Quatre far better than just lower Mid. Also he has CP gain with heal which is good combo. He’s really made for support alone
Laplace Code is twice as expensive, covers a smaller area, and boosts both attack stats rather than the defense ones, so having double the durability doesn't make it worth much as much, especially if you're also using Quatre's heal craft, which would just make him even less CP efficient than Risette.
Without going into much spoilers, Grendel(Well, Van, duh, but technically different character with different moveset/skills) and Shizuna remain the most busted party members the whole arc, Risette's good but it's always better to have more damage rather than being able to tank everything. Judith's pretty good too i guess, but she falls off pretty hard against bosses and Agnes is just a better caster anyway.
The Fie and Risia nerf hurt my soul. But anyway I'm starting to think Falcom does not play test their games. There is always and I mean always a broken strat that is easy to do. I didn't even realize back in the day the delay, evasion tank and arts spam along with the S-bomb with Laura were broken strats. I thought that was what I was suppose to do. It was easy to set-up, borderline impossible to fuck up and no negatives to not do them. And when they try to nerf it in the next installment they just make it worse or make us notice an even more broken strat that was just right there. We don't even need to mention how just broken the op protag characters trend Rean started is. Well except Rufus but I don't really count him as a protag.
Having not played Daybreak since its Japanese release but having finished Kai no Kiseki not long after it came out, it's kinda tough holding myself back from tearing into this list a bit; I had to constantly remind myself I'm two games ahead, so what I currently know is not entirely applicable here. I do still think some of these placements are off, but I wouldn't call it particularly egregious aside from that I'd put Agnes a bit lower and have Judith in her place instead, and also that you're putting too little value on stealth (which was easily Fie's best attribute in Reverie and the latter half of the Erebonia arc rather than dodge tanking, especially since Sara was always the better dodge tank anyway).
If anything, I might drop Gramps and Aaron down a tier. Only because they are melee units and arent Van. They will eat more damage because they need to be near the boss to do their thing. A lot of bosses have smaller AoEs around them so when they go for Van, they might catch them in the AoE. Van can take a few hits and not worry, but I wouldnt trust them to take a hit and not die from some big S craft right after.
S craft spam isnt as nerfed as you make it out to be tbh Like its true that they tried to nerf it but they also made it so that if you have 200 cp then you can do it back to back and sometimes if youre lucky you can even get more through cp turn bonuses. This is especially nice on feri bc of how her s craft is kinda the best craft in the game for building up combo. Evasion tanking definitely is nerfed but 100% evasion feri was still fun :P Cobalt curtain is great, one thing you didnt mention is that compared to laplace code, it really synergises with itself? Like the defense buffs mean that the shield is more resilient. Agnes's shield is kinda the opposite for me where its kind of a waste to use when people are at full health bc it means you waste the regen effect. My final team was van, risette, feri and judith. I like to use agnes as a panic button in the back. Free party switching means you can bring her in and s craft if shit ever hits the fan, whereas if you have her in the field, she can be the one needing rezzed herself. Sometimes I switched in aaron for some s crafts too ig
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Hell yea Trails, and its great to see so many of my favorites topping the chart.
Also man that slap gets lots of mileage 😂 gets me every time
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100% agree with this list!! The optimal party was my main party without realizing they were the best and having access to broken strategies. Van and Agnes I never benched my entire play through and when Risette joined I benched Feri. Van I knew was gonna be the best he’s so powerful even for main protagonists standards. He has by far my favorite craft set. He might take the seat from Rean for most broken protagonist in the series. We’ll see with Daybreak 2 and eventually 3 if that will be the case. Great list!!
Great tier list Loclo! This made made want to play the game more.
I just started this game yesterday after picking it up on the Black Friday Sale so this was really good find on my YT.
Also, that appears to be a nice chest
Definitely agree with Van and Agnes on the top tiers
Another super broken build i had with Van was to stack cp recovery passives and spam VANdalize raid/regal beatdown like a braindead monke, since those s-crafts have huge combo multipliers and Van having the Mare - Chaos holo core
Also, obsidia ray is an art that delays enemies, stacking it with judgement feathers will make sure they never move lol
Whilst I can't watch this yet (paused at 1 second), thumbs up and all the hope it smashes the records! I'll be able to watch in a year when I get around to completing the game lol.
I agree somewhat but also Aaron is amazing at nuking enemies and bosses with his s-craft after getting the combo counter up to a high number
As someone who has played Kuro 1, II and a bit of Kai, I have to concede that this is pretty accurate. But with one expectation because I am biased, my boi Aaron is a permanent party member for me XP I have gotten his evasion high to the point of enemies missing almost all attacks his way. Mix in how evasion and crit share quartz and hollow cores that provide both and I have gotten his physical damage to ridiculous highs (also his single target back bonus attack is so fucking good 😊 melted some bosses using that in Kuro II)
Kinda scary how this list is very similar to mine! My final team ended up being the Van, Agnes, Risette and Judith. If Elaine or Shizuna was in the party as guests i'd usually tag them in place of Judith. Was kinda disappointed with Fie and Rixia as they were main stays in my Reverie playthrough but here they back seat characters.
My endgame team was Van, Agnes, Risette, Feri. They pretty much covered everything (Van main phys dps, Agnes main magic dps, Risette shielder and def buffer, Feri atk and cp buffer). Indeed, the only customizable member slot is Feri's.
Awesome list. Period
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I say this ranking is so accurate to my experience playing it. I would add to Aaron's entry in that he is excellent at stunning enemies prior to battle, and with the right setup they will basically be halfway beaten by the time other party members get to act: I actually had to stop using him because he kept being my employee of the month after each chapter. Feri is also excellent at the stunner role: the Slow stat is so underestimated but it prevents enemies from moving across the field, so combining that with stunning and the aggro strat and very few enemies could damage casters. I would also pair Van with the Grey Mare Holo Core because that extra evasion on top of aggro is super busted.
Many reviewers don't state this, but using area of effect spells do wonders for CP gaining, and as a result Risette could always replenish it and guard the team. I've also done this to keep Judith charged.
I also agree that Bergard unfortunately couldn't deliver comparatively, which is sad given how many games built him up as this powerhouse. And I agree that Quatre is a lesser version of other casters: they should have balanced him out with Agnes by making him the stronger caster: at the very least his ray attacks should have been stronger so boosting his ATS had more of a benefit. Or maybe have his crafts have more of a plaguing effect.
Van's Grendel is a one man army even in subsequent entries. Wish i could talk about how great Kai is but i know not everyone has access to it yet. I would say the broken protag trend started with Sky the third. Kevin was an evade tank and had grail sphere to protect everyone, then we got Lloyd barrier Bannings who evades like a boss and can almost do anything including nuke the planet for an s craft then we get install Rean who is heavily outclassed by Crow and now we have Van. They do address s craft loops with crimson sin by putting a cooldown timer and nerf it even more in kai by making it impossible to stack outside Grendel plus van. Also enemies can do sbreaks themselves starting crimson sin. Current best combat in the series is Kai No Kiseki imo.
Gonna play this later on so catch watch it now.
I found Quatre to be busted. Build him to 100% crit rate and go full speed w/ him and you'll have the party fully healed at all times and the other 3 members being able to spam s craft.
I'm pretty shocked that there's an RPG series where physical attackers get outdone by magic users. And it's a shame how Trails is beating the Tales series when it comes to free customs now. That series used to be the king before Bamco got too greedy with DLC. Lastly, nice video dude, especially with them slaps. Looking forward to you covering stuff like Visions of Mana & Metaphor: ReFantazio.
Man, you sure got mileage on that slap! Very funny!
But yeah, I’ve no idea how anyone beat this game without shields, there’s so much aoe and speed on the bosses!
I still can’t believe my wife dressed up for that.
Yeah, Your wife seems like a crazy fun and great person. Any interaction we get from you guys in s video is always golden.
Pretty much matches my opinion, although the game is easy enough that you can just choose whoever
Agnes is the best without a close second. Her ult in the old Mercy ult from Overwatch
Harem party is best party lmao
Risette is way too broken lol, my team most of the time was Van, Agnes, Risette and Aaron, sometimes I substitute Aaron with Judith. The only reason I didnt use Feri at all mostly come down to not enjoying her character that much. My main damage dealer was Van, I set multiple quartz that break craft damage, so I mostly spam his craft that does more damage by the side (forget the name of the craft).
Overall while the battle system is fun I didnt enjoy as much as compared to prior games
Feri Agnes and Judith are the best team. Feri got a full S craft pretty much every 1.5 rounds
I honestly find Quatre better for defense than Anges and Risette with his shield. It’s twice as strong which honestly makes a big difference especially on higher difficulties. When playing Nightmare mode I find Anges and Risette shield useless and instantly breaks from a single enemy attack especially since there’s also Aegis Shield which is stronger than those. That shield alone is what makes Quatre far better than just lower Mid. Also he has CP gain with heal which is good combo. He’s really made for support alone
Laplace Code is twice as expensive, covers a smaller area, and boosts both attack stats rather than the defense ones, so having double the durability doesn't make it worth much as much, especially if you're also using Quatre's heal craft, which would just make him even less CP efficient than Risette.
That looks like a nice chest.
That definitely looks like a nice chest.
Good to know about dodge tank getting nerfed. I had been building Aaron as one thinking it gets better in the late game
@@dakotadoyle7573 It takes a complete quartz build and his self buff to make it work and it’s still not as good as previous games.
Without going into much spoilers, Grendel(Well, Van, duh, but technically different character with different moveset/skills) and Shizuna remain the most busted party members the whole arc, Risette's good but it's always better to have more damage rather than being able to tank everything. Judith's pretty good too i guess, but she falls off pretty hard against bosses and Agnes is just a better caster anyway.
The Fie and Risia nerf hurt my soul. But anyway I'm starting to think Falcom does not play test their games. There is always and I mean always a broken strat that is easy to do. I didn't even realize back in the day the delay, evasion tank and arts spam along with the S-bomb with Laura were broken strats.
I thought that was what I was suppose to do. It was easy to set-up, borderline impossible to fuck up and no negatives to not do them.
And when they try to nerf it in the next installment they just make it worse or make us notice an even more broken strat that was just right there. We don't even need to mention how just broken the op protag characters trend Rean started is.
Well except Rufus but I don't really count him as a protag.
Having not played Daybreak since its Japanese release but having finished Kai no Kiseki not long after it came out, it's kinda tough holding myself back from tearing into this list a bit; I had to constantly remind myself I'm two games ahead, so what I currently know is not entirely applicable here. I do still think some of these placements are off, but I wouldn't call it particularly egregious aside from that I'd put Agnes a bit lower and have Judith in her place instead, and also that you're putting too little value on stealth (which was easily Fie's best attribute in Reverie and the latter half of the Erebonia arc rather than dodge tanking, especially since Sara was always the better dodge tank anyway).
If anything, I might drop Gramps and Aaron down a tier. Only because they are melee units and arent Van. They will eat more damage because they need to be near the boss to do their thing. A lot of bosses have smaller AoEs around them so when they go for Van, they might catch them in the AoE. Van can take a few hits and not worry, but I wouldnt trust them to take a hit and not die from some big S craft right after.
S craft spam isnt as nerfed as you make it out to be tbh
Like its true that they tried to nerf it but they also made it so that if you have 200 cp then you can do it back to back and sometimes if youre lucky you can even get more through cp turn bonuses. This is especially nice on feri bc of how her s craft is kinda the best craft in the game for building up combo.
Evasion tanking definitely is nerfed but 100% evasion feri was still fun :P
Cobalt curtain is great, one thing you didnt mention is that compared to laplace code, it really synergises with itself? Like the defense buffs mean that the shield is more resilient. Agnes's shield is kinda the opposite for me where its kind of a waste to use when people are at full health bc it means you waste the regen effect.
My final team was van, risette, feri and judith. I like to use agnes as a panic button in the back. Free party switching means you can bring her in and s craft if shit ever hits the fan, whereas if you have her in the field, she can be the one needing rezzed herself.
Sometimes I switched in aaron for some s crafts too ig
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Hope you eventually go back to do the rest of the Sky trilogy
Hold I got quartre to get judgment feather 🤨
What was your quartz set up?
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Fie?
Yeah, she's back, just as guest in Kuro1/Daybreak1 tho.