OMG! In my many years of 'playing boats' I've had many! Sail, motor, big and small and I can say that my Drascombe Drifter was the best, most seaworthy, comfortable and easy to balance (the sails) than any of the others. By a long way. We had to sell her when my wife became ill to be able to accommodate her wheelchair etc. I loved that boat. 😢 Thank you for this glance back to happier times.
Hi Martin, Glad it gave you a chance to reminisce on past times. There's some great TH-cam videos that "transport" you offshore - I waste many an hour! One of my favourites is the re-build of Tally Ho. www.youtube.com/@SampsonBoatCo I'd recommend starting at the beginning. Keep well!
Thanks. I sized the tent to fit on the boat and ensured there were tie-down points to make setting up easy. It's non modified so can be used onshore as well - just need to remember to take the tent pegs alomg as well!
My Dad and I used to sail his Drascome Lugger on the Thames in 1970ish till he bought the one with the cabin on(he got a mooring in Ramsgate harbour for her)can't remember what they were know as now. We trailer sailed the lugger several places but Mainly off the North Woolwhich slip, if you timed that wrong their was no way to recover her till the tide race slowed. Same with coming or going from Ramsgate the Drascombe's were only good for about 4/5 knotts And the tides in either place made the days sailing interesting, Happy days
Hi Bryan, You seem to enjoy reminiscing about Drascombe days gone by - time to get yourself one! The Drascombe Coaster has a small cabin and also the bigger Drascombe Drifter. I'm glad the video brought back some happy memories.
The Luger quality speaks for itself. Loved your tent setup. As an old salt I would have enjoyed knowing your charted nautical distance , wind and hull speed etc. In all though , still enjoyed. Paul in Canada
Glad you enjoyed it Paul. The total distance travelled was 60NM over the 4 days, 30NM on the first day and coming back split over three days. Wind probably maxed out at 15 - 20 knots on day one and maximum speed probably ca 6 - 7 knots surfing down waves. Average speeds a lot less! When I'm planning trips I usually use 3 knots and that works fairly well.
Hi Chance, Thanks for the comments and for raising the use of safety lines! I do have a safety line, and have used it, but I do not use it routinely. I find that when moving about the small open boat with a safety line attached, it actually becomes a hazard itself, either as a trip hazard or by getting caught and not allowing me to move quickly to somewhere that needs urgent / safety critical attention. I keep talking about risk assessing everything I do, and the safety line I felt increased the overall risk rather than reducing it. If I’m on a big boat, then in addition to a lifejacket worn all the time outside of the cabin, I’ll use a safety line in hours of darkness, when on the deck in non-calm conditions and on deck / in the cockpit when the sea/wind conditions are rough / unpredictable. I’d be interested in others' views on the use of safety lines in small open boats.
Put a top on your jet boil, it works much faster. And you save alot of gas. Ive had mine for 10 yrs now and its still working great. Btw great vid, thanx.
Thanks Philip. Strangely enough, I hadn't thought about putting the lid on! After using an "Optimus" petrol stove for years that took minutes to light, singed your eyebrows, and then took minutes to boil anything, 45 seconds to boil a cuppa was so good there was no thought about efficiencies! Only JetBoil complaint is simmering anything without it sticking to the bottom!
On my Coaster I’ve just started using “Majoni Angle Fenders (Low freeboard fenders)” which I think are also called Bass Boat fenders in the States. I’m very pleased with them. They are used on Drascombes in the Netherlands. My family are from Gourdon.
Hi Charlie, You would have recognised Johnshaven, Gourdon and some of the coastal shots then!! Yes a couple of folks I've met on DA rallies swear by the "Penguin" fenders. I'm so seldom on pontoons that I always forget the problems until I try and tie up. Maybe next time I have to replace fenders I'll remember!
Fantastic, thanks for showing your tent, I'm trying to work out a system for my Dabber. Tarp and bivi were fine in June but a proper tent would be so much better
Hi David, No problem. I liked the idea of a land tent that could be used on the boat and onshore if necessary/more convenient. The inner tent is great at keeping the midges out as well! You'll also need to work out anchoring arrangements (if you need to re anchor after the tent is up) and how to walk safely up to the front of the boat / around the tent. I don’t really know the Dabber so not sure what configuration would work well. Good luck!
Hi, It’s an OEX Bandicoot II from Go Outdoors. I don’t think they sell them anymore. I did a lot of measuring and research about 4 years ago and it seemed to be the best fit. There's another video th-cam.com/video/mZlv86c6bhI/w-d-xo.html with quite a few comments, questions and answers that might be of interest.
I’ve enjoyed your videos immensely - Thank you! While camping out in my Drascombe Lugger, I’ve been sleeping (trying to) on the floor, next to the center-board. I’m envious of your planking/sleeping deck. Could you please share the type of wood, size, dimensions and where it’s stowed while under way? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Greg Smith, Salem Oregon
Hi Greg, The planks were made from wood sourced from my local B&Q DIY store - just their cheap whitewood, might be spruce or pine. I sized the thickness by seeing what could support my weight across the required span - without bending too much. My lugger is a Mk1 with the low centre plate casing so the planks can easily span across over the top of the CP casing. The planks are 192 mm wide and 18 mm thick, and cut to fit inside the side tanks resting on battens screwed into the side tanks (see the video from 3:02 onwards). The first planks at the bow have a tendency to fall off the battens at each side if they move backwards by even a few cm, so the fifth plank has a locating pin that fits into the side battens. After that, the planks are a similar length, or get smaller at the back, so don’t fall off. Re the stowage whilst under way, if you pause the video at 3:02 you’ll see the boards stored on the starboard side pushed as far forward as possible. They are supported by the centre plate casing and side tanks and are sturdy enough to walk on. From the picture at 3:02 you’ll see the planks are slid under the bracing at the front of the CP casing - this was one of the reasons for selecting the width of the planks. I actually started off with a different system where the planks crossed all the way across the side tanks - but this was modified. You can see this on another video. It was really a trial version to see how the tent would fit. Some of the comments on that video may be useful. th-cam.com/video/mZlv86c6bhI/w-d-xo.html I went for a standard land based tent with an inner tent and flysheet. I felt it was important to separate the wet salty section of the boat from a dry inner sleeping space - also keeps the midges out. Good luck!
Thanks a lot Steve. ‘Looks like a fun winter project! I have similar tent. I stow it abit differently - keeping the poles/hoops inside the tent and slip it (approx. 9’ and “bendy”) in a long skinny bag in front and around the main mast. Thank you, again for your videos! Greg
Glad you enjoyed the video.| The Drascombe Lugger is 5.7m long. Arbroath marina has a daily charge of £32 per boat unless you stay for a week and then it's £20/m. Anchorages free, but the east coast of Scotland is very exposed for a small boat. There are a limited number of suitable sheltered harbours but distances are quite large for a lugger under sail.
Hi Pablo, Very good question! Normally I anchor before the tent goes up and pull anchor after the tent is put away so all is straight forward. If however the tent is up and the anchor needs to be re-set (dragging, another boat comes too close or you realise you'll go aground at low tide!) then the anchor is pulled with the tent up. Planning and preparation is required. I have 8m of 8mm chain and 30m of 12mm anchor plait. To pull the anchor I motor ahead, the anchor plait goes slack and as I motor ahead I can hook the anchor plait with the boat hook from the back of the boat. I then pull in the anchor plait, the 8m of chain and then the anchor into the back of the boat. I have a small gunnel protector that slips onto the gunnel to protect from the chain being pulled in. With everything in the boat at the mizzen mast I motor to the new anchor location and then just drop the anchor again - the anchor plait remains tied off at the same length on the cleat on the foredeck. My depth gauge is a lead line and tidal heights I get from Navionics on the i-phone. It is possible to go up front past the tent - but to do that a line between the main and mizzen masts is rigged up, before the tent goes up, and above the height of the tent. Saves you from falling off! But trying to go past the tent in choppy conditions, haul up the anchor, all in the dark, was why I devised the aforementioned technique! I also sometimes sail with a fabric foredeck which makes the standard foredeck "out of bounds" so again must revert to the anchor operations from the back. Here's a clip of the foredeck, 4min 28seconds in th-cam.com/video/UxoW7ICZ2kg/w-d-xo.html
Hi Nick, It’s an OEX Bandicoot II from Go Outdoors. I don’t think they sell them anymore. I did a lot of measuring and research about 4 years ago and it seemed to be the best fit.
Hi Dave, Thanks. New sails are good. I went for the Mk2 sails from R&J Sails. I had to scarf on an extra 12” or so to the mizzen and gaff as the new sails are slightly larger than my old ones. As you can see, still no drive from the sails when there is no wind!!
@@dancarter482 Hi Dan, Thanks! I do have a spinnaker, an old RS 200 one that I fly from a short “top mast” and a bowsprit. It’s a bit of a faff with all the extra gear and lines and because of that I don’t take it cruising. There’s a couple of TH-cam videos that show the spinnaker on day sails. th-cam.com/video/R19pPFuK5R0/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/0hRxCmMQcd0/w-d-xo.html If folk want extra sail area upwind then a few have gone for a flying jib on a bowsprit. Again, extra faff when cruising when I try to keep things simple, and manageable, just incase the wind and seas pick up when away for a few days. To me, keeping it simple makes it easier to stay safe! To answer your question, Drascombe Luggers either have a furling jib on a rotating luff wire or a roller reefing jib on a luff spar, non of which are suitable for hanking on additional sails. A spinnaker requires plenty of fee air and the standard fore-triangle on the lugger doesn’t really have that, especially if sailing off the wind. So I don't think it would work. But maybe someone has a video that proves me wrong!
@steveporteous3157 @dancarter482 hi Dan. I have a GP14 spinnaker on my Lugger the bowsprit ties on in 5 mins and i use a double block at the top of the mast to fly the jib and spinnaker from. I tend to fly the spinnaker asymmetrically due to the hassle of symmetric (despite the sail being symmetric) but as long as you cleat the clew down on the racing cleats just fwd of the shrouds it gives it good shape and power. Even used it at sea with the drone up in no wind and it definitely gives the boat a bit more. I'm seriously in to getting the boat to go a bit better in low wind but at the same time trying to keep her safe. Heard mixed results about the bigger roached mainsai but interested in the flying jib, especially as I could just use my spinnaker halyard and bowsprit I already have. Do you fly the flying jib with std main and mizzen or do you need a bigger mizzen to balance her? Dave
@@SailingWithDave I just have the spinnaker. I haven't tried a fly jib yet so not sure how the balance would be affected. Well I know how it would be affected - just don't know how much you would notice it!!! I did try a mizzen staysail once or twice - gave me an extra 1/2 knot or so. th-cam.com/video/UxoW7ICZ2kg/w-d-xo.html about 4 minutes in.
Thank you for posting your cruise along the Scottish coast. (Unfortunately, I could only get the first part of each of your comments, as your voice dropped way down for the final few words... : (
Hi Mike, That must be my Scottish accent and I must admit that my "voiceover" career didn't take off! Thanks for the feedback though, I'll take that into account for my next video. I do like the background noise as I feel it gives a bit of the atmosphere of a place or the sailing conditions. Thanks for watching.
Hope I didn't offend. I just really wanted to hear what you had to say. (As for accents, perhaps I have a diminished understanding of English, due to having lived here in Japan for so many years...). Cheers!@@steveporteous3157
3:02 Decking system for tent
3:50 Tent going up
love this!
OMG! In my many years of 'playing boats' I've had many! Sail, motor, big and small and I can say that my Drascombe Drifter was the best, most seaworthy, comfortable and easy to balance (the sails) than any of the others. By a long way. We had to sell her when my wife became ill to be able to accommodate her wheelchair etc.
I loved that boat. 😢 Thank you for this glance back to happier times.
Hi Martin,
Glad it gave you a chance to reminisce on past times.
There's some great TH-cam videos that "transport" you offshore - I waste many an hour! One of my favourites is the re-build of Tally Ho. www.youtube.com/@SampsonBoatCo I'd recommend starting at the beginning.
Keep well!
❤❤❤
Now, that is an adventure. Lovely to watch. Well done you.
Thanks David.
The meals cooked on boats like this taste best :) Thank you for these impressions !
Glad you liked the video! Meals on my boat are definitely for sustenance rather than being enjoyable!
A lovely video!
Lovely adventure and what a beautiful boat. Cheers from The Netherlands!
Bedankt Ike!
Steve another great video! I enjoyed sailing with you. Thanks for talking us along.
Thanks Jim - glad you enjoyed it - and you stayed warm and dry!
Balls of steel Steve
Nice trip.
Brilliant set up! Well done
Thanks!
Excellent video, thanks Steve
Thanks Mark. Glad you enjoyed it!
That’s a great little set up.
Thanks! Hope you enjoyed the video.
great vid steve ,that tent system looked easy
Thanks. I sized the tent to fit on the boat and ensured there were tie-down points to make setting up easy. It's non modified so can be used onshore as well - just need to remember to take the tent pegs alomg as well!
My Dad and I used to sail his Drascome Lugger on the Thames in 1970ish till he bought the one with the cabin on(he got a mooring in Ramsgate harbour for her)can't remember what they were know as now. We trailer sailed the lugger several places but Mainly off the North Woolwhich slip, if you timed that wrong their was no way to recover her till the tide race slowed. Same with coming or going from Ramsgate the Drascombe's were only good for about 4/5 knotts And the tides in either place made the days sailing interesting, Happy days
Hi Bryan,
You seem to enjoy reminiscing about Drascombe days gone by - time to get yourself one! The Drascombe Coaster has a small cabin and also the bigger Drascombe Drifter.
I'm glad the video brought back some happy memories.
Nice boat, nice setup and a nice peaceful sailing trip, well done mate!,,,,,,,
Thanks James.
The Luger quality speaks for itself. Loved your tent setup. As an old salt I would have enjoyed knowing your charted nautical distance , wind and hull speed etc. In all though , still enjoyed.
Paul in Canada
Glad you enjoyed it Paul. The total distance travelled was 60NM over the 4 days, 30NM on the first day and coming back split over three days. Wind probably maxed out at 15 - 20 knots on day one and maximum speed probably ca 6 - 7 knots surfing down waves. Average speeds a lot less! When I'm planning trips I usually use 3 knots and that works fairly well.
@@steveporteous3157 perfect. I have cruised extensively and wanted to get the feel of your cruise/ camping. I would say well done. Fair winds
Thanks.
Delightful thanks for sharing
Thanks David - glad you enjoyed it!
Great adventure!! Very cool. I'm hoping you use a safety line! ⛵
Hi Chance,
Thanks for the comments and for raising the use of safety lines!
I do have a safety line, and have used it, but I do not use it routinely. I find that when moving about the small open boat with a safety line attached, it actually becomes a hazard itself, either as a trip hazard or by getting caught and not allowing me to move quickly to somewhere that needs urgent / safety critical attention. I keep talking about risk assessing everything I do, and the safety line I felt increased the overall risk rather than reducing it.
If I’m on a big boat, then in addition to a lifejacket worn all the time outside of the cabin, I’ll use a safety line in hours of darkness, when on the deck in non-calm conditions and on deck / in the cockpit when the sea/wind conditions are rough / unpredictable.
I’d be interested in others' views on the use of safety lines in small open boats.
@@steveporteous3157 Thanks for the reply and fantastic video. I enjoyed the adventure. Cheers🍻
Put a top on your jet boil, it works much faster. And you save alot of gas. Ive had mine for 10 yrs now and its still working great. Btw great vid, thanx.
Thanks Philip. Strangely enough, I hadn't thought about putting the lid on! After using an "Optimus" petrol stove for years that took minutes to light, singed your eyebrows, and then took minutes to boil anything, 45 seconds to boil a cuppa was so good there was no thought about efficiencies! Only JetBoil complaint is simmering anything without it sticking to the bottom!
On my Coaster I’ve just started using “Majoni Angle Fenders (Low freeboard fenders)” which I think are also called Bass Boat fenders in the States. I’m very pleased with them. They are used on Drascombes in the Netherlands. My family are from Gourdon.
Hi Charlie, You would have recognised Johnshaven, Gourdon and some of the coastal shots then!! Yes a couple of folks I've met on DA rallies swear by the "Penguin" fenders. I'm so seldom on pontoons that I always forget the problems until I try and tie up. Maybe next time I have to replace fenders I'll remember!
Fantastic, thanks for showing your tent, I'm trying to work out a system for my Dabber. Tarp and bivi were fine in June but a proper tent would be so much better
Hi David,
No problem. I liked the idea of a land tent that could be used on the boat and onshore if necessary/more convenient. The inner tent is great at keeping the midges out as well!
You'll also need to work out anchoring arrangements (if you need to re anchor after the tent is up) and how to walk safely up to the front of the boat / around the tent.
I don’t really know the Dabber so not sure what configuration would work well.
Good luck!
Always wanted a drascomb longboat
Never too late to start looking!
The tent fits perfectly, did u get it made or just buy it? That's a fabulous setup, well done, and she sails so sweetly.😃🇦🇺👍
Hi,
It’s an OEX Bandicoot II from Go Outdoors. I don’t think they sell them anymore. I did a lot of measuring and research about 4 years ago and it seemed to be the best fit.
There's another video th-cam.com/video/mZlv86c6bhI/w-d-xo.html with quite a few comments, questions and answers that might be of interest.
@@steveporteous3157 Thankyou
You sailed past us at Inverbervie...
Hi Jimmy,
It was a great sail going south past Inverbervie but gie dreich on the way back!
I’ve enjoyed your videos immensely - Thank you!
While camping out in my Drascombe Lugger, I’ve been sleeping (trying to) on the floor, next to the center-board.
I’m envious of your planking/sleeping deck.
Could you please share the type of wood, size, dimensions and where it’s stowed while under way?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Greg Smith, Salem Oregon
Hi Greg,
The planks were made from wood sourced from my local B&Q DIY store - just their cheap whitewood, might be spruce or pine. I sized the thickness by seeing what could support my weight across the required span - without bending too much. My lugger is a Mk1 with the low centre plate casing so the planks can easily span across over the top of the CP casing. The planks are 192 mm wide and 18 mm thick, and cut to fit inside the side tanks resting on battens screwed into the side tanks (see the video from 3:02 onwards). The first planks at the bow have a tendency to fall off the battens at each side if they move backwards by even a few cm, so the fifth plank has a locating pin that fits into the side battens. After that, the planks are a similar length, or get smaller at the back, so don’t fall off.
Re the stowage whilst under way, if you pause the video at 3:02 you’ll see the boards stored on the starboard side pushed as far forward as possible. They are supported by the centre plate casing and side tanks and are sturdy enough to walk on. From the picture at 3:02 you’ll see the planks are slid under the bracing at the front of the CP casing - this was one of the reasons for selecting the width of the planks.
I actually started off with a different system where the planks crossed all the way across the side tanks - but this was modified. You can see this on another video. It was really a trial version to see how the tent would fit. Some of the comments on that video may be useful. th-cam.com/video/mZlv86c6bhI/w-d-xo.html
I went for a standard land based tent with an inner tent and flysheet. I felt it was important to separate the wet salty section of the boat from a dry inner sleeping space - also keeps the midges out.
Good luck!
Thanks a lot Steve. ‘Looks like a fun winter project!
I have similar tent. I stow it abit differently - keeping the poles/hoops inside the tent and slip it (approx. 9’ and “bendy”) in a long skinny bag in front and around the main mast.
Thank you, again for your videos!
Greg
What length is you Luger and how much to stay overnight please? Thks lovely video
Glad you enjoyed the video.|
The Drascombe Lugger is 5.7m long.
Arbroath marina has a daily charge of £32 per boat unless you stay for a week and then it's £20/m. Anchorages free, but the east coast of Scotland is very exposed for a small boat. There are a limited number of suitable sheltered harbours but distances are quite large for a lugger under sail.
Sir, Porteous, I really liked your cruise, despite the bad weather.
How does he go to the bow to raise the anchor when he is at anchor with the tent?
Hi Pablo, Very good question! Normally I anchor before the tent goes up and pull anchor after the tent is put away so all is straight forward. If however the tent is up and the anchor needs to be re-set (dragging, another boat comes too close or you realise you'll go aground at low tide!) then the anchor is pulled with the tent up. Planning and preparation is required. I have 8m of 8mm chain and 30m of 12mm anchor plait. To pull the anchor I motor ahead, the anchor plait goes slack and as I motor ahead I can hook the anchor plait with the boat hook from the back of the boat. I then pull in the anchor plait, the 8m of chain and then the anchor into the back of the boat. I have a small gunnel protector that slips onto the gunnel to protect from the chain being pulled in. With everything in the boat at the mizzen mast I motor to the new anchor location and then just drop the anchor again - the anchor plait remains tied off at the same length on the cleat on the foredeck. My depth gauge is a lead line and tidal heights I get from Navionics on the i-phone.
It is possible to go up front past the tent - but to do that a line between the main and mizzen masts is rigged up, before the tent goes up, and above the height of the tent. Saves you from falling off! But trying to go past the tent in choppy conditions, haul up the anchor, all in the dark, was why I devised the aforementioned technique! I also sometimes sail with a fabric foredeck which makes the standard foredeck "out of bounds" so again must revert to the anchor operations from the back. Here's a clip of the foredeck, 4min 28seconds in th-cam.com/video/UxoW7ICZ2kg/w-d-xo.html
What make/model is the tent? It seems to fit perfectly.
Hi Nick,
It’s an OEX Bandicoot II from Go Outdoors. I don’t think they sell them anymore. I did a lot of measuring and research about 4 years ago and it seemed to be the best fit.
There's another video th-cam.com/video/mZlv86c6bhI/w-d-xo.html with quite a few comments, questions and answers that might be of interest.
Great trip Steve. Cheers for sharing. How are those new sails doing?
Hi Dave,
Thanks. New sails are good. I went for the Mk2 sails from R&J Sails. I had to scarf on an extra 12” or so to the mizzen and gaff as the new sails are slightly larger than my old ones. As you can see, still no drive from the sails when there is no wind!!
@@steveporteous3157 Lovely boat. Would a kite hanked on the forestay work for light airs?
@@dancarter482 Hi Dan,
Thanks! I do have a spinnaker, an old RS 200 one that I fly from a short “top mast” and a bowsprit. It’s a bit of a faff with all the extra gear and lines and because of that I don’t take it cruising. There’s a couple of TH-cam videos that show the spinnaker on day sails.
th-cam.com/video/R19pPFuK5R0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/0hRxCmMQcd0/w-d-xo.html
If folk want extra sail area upwind then a few have gone for a flying jib on a bowsprit. Again, extra faff when cruising when I try to keep things simple, and manageable, just incase the wind and seas pick up when away for a few days. To me, keeping it simple makes it easier to stay safe!
To answer your question, Drascombe Luggers either have a furling jib on a rotating luff wire or a roller reefing jib on a luff spar, non of which are suitable for hanking on additional sails. A spinnaker requires plenty of fee air and the standard fore-triangle on the lugger doesn’t really have that, especially if sailing off the wind. So I don't think it would work. But maybe someone has a video that proves me wrong!
@steveporteous3157 @dancarter482 hi Dan. I have a GP14 spinnaker on my Lugger the bowsprit ties on in 5 mins and i use a double block at the top of the mast to fly the jib and spinnaker from.
I tend to fly the spinnaker asymmetrically due to the hassle of symmetric (despite the sail being symmetric) but as long as you cleat the clew down on the racing cleats just fwd of the shrouds it gives it good shape and power.
Even used it at sea with the drone up in no wind and it definitely gives the boat a bit more.
I'm seriously in to getting the boat to go a bit better in low wind but at the same time trying to keep her safe. Heard mixed results about the bigger roached mainsai but interested in the flying jib, especially as I could just use my spinnaker halyard and bowsprit I already have.
Do you fly the flying jib with std main and mizzen or do you need a bigger mizzen to balance her?
Dave
@@SailingWithDave I just have the spinnaker. I haven't tried a fly jib yet so not sure how the balance would be affected. Well I know how it would be affected - just don't know how much you would notice it!!! I did try a mizzen staysail once or twice - gave me an extra 1/2 knot or so. th-cam.com/video/UxoW7ICZ2kg/w-d-xo.html about 4 minutes in.
👌👌👌
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Thank you for posting your cruise along the Scottish coast. (Unfortunately, I could only get the first part of each of your comments, as your voice dropped way down for the final few words... : (
Hi Mike, That must be my Scottish accent and I must admit that my "voiceover" career didn't take off! Thanks for the feedback though, I'll take that into account for my next video. I do like the background noise as I feel it gives a bit of the atmosphere of a place or the sailing conditions. Thanks for watching.
Hope I didn't offend. I just really wanted to hear what you had to say. (As for accents, perhaps I have a diminished understanding of English, due to having lived here in Japan for so many years...). Cheers!@@steveporteous3157
Hi @@mikeu5380, no offence taken! Any Drascombes in Japan?
👍👍👍👍👍
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Nem lehet megunni ,ezeket a kis vitorlasokat...
Mindegyik egy külön világ... Más másképp fogják a hullámokat....
Thanks for commenting. Used Google Translate and it seems like a very profound statement!