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Steve Porteous
United Kingdom
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2011
A few videos of my Mk1 Drascombe Lugger "Lily Ella".
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Drascombe Lugger “Lily Ella” Sailing off Stonehaven
Just realised I haven’t posted anything this year so here’s a small snippet of my sail this week on Lilly Ella.
It’s another "Slow TV" sailing video aboard Mk 1 Drascombe Lugger “Lilly Ella” as she has a day sail from her home harbour of Stonehaven - nothing really happens - so don't be disappointed!
However, at 3 minutes in there is an un-intentional gybe - looks a bit more dramatic than it actually was because of the hand held filming!
If you enjoy being at sea on a Drascombe, like being away from the crowds, or just dream of setting sail in a small boat you may get past the first 20 seconds!
I didn’t plan to take videos so everything was recorded on a handheld phone camera - apologies for the video quality.
By the time I started videoing the wind had dropped off a bit but I kept the two reefs in the main, probably a bit under powered.
00:07 Sailing to windward
02:15 Heading off wind
03:00 Un-intentional gybe
03:12 Close reaching
03:30 Broad reaching for home
It’s another "Slow TV" sailing video aboard Mk 1 Drascombe Lugger “Lilly Ella” as she has a day sail from her home harbour of Stonehaven - nothing really happens - so don't be disappointed!
However, at 3 minutes in there is an un-intentional gybe - looks a bit more dramatic than it actually was because of the hand held filming!
If you enjoy being at sea on a Drascombe, like being away from the crowds, or just dream of setting sail in a small boat you may get past the first 20 seconds!
I didn’t plan to take videos so everything was recorded on a handheld phone camera - apologies for the video quality.
By the time I started videoing the wind had dropped off a bit but I kept the two reefs in the main, probably a bit under powered.
00:07 Sailing to windward
02:15 Heading off wind
03:00 Un-intentional gybe
03:12 Close reaching
03:30 Broad reaching for home
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Drascombe Lugger “Lily Ella” Experiments with Heavy Weather Sail Configurations off Stonehaven
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Another "Slow TV" / “Slow Sailing” video! I went out with my Drascombe Lugger “Lilly Ella” to experiment with various sail configurations in increasing winds. I think I tried just about every combination, with lots of heaving to, tacking, some gybing and a man overboard drill thrown in. I didn’t show my reefing process but if anybody is interested there is a separate video th-cam.com/video/VyP9...
Drascombe Lugger Lily Ella’s North East Scotland Camping Cruise
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Four days sailing and three nights camping aboard the Drascombe Lugger Lily Ella. She sails from her home base of Stonehaven harbour on Scotland’s North East coast and visits the harbours of Arbroath, Johnshaven and Gourdon, along with a night stop at Lunan Bay. Lily Ella is an early 1970s Mk1 Drascombe Lugger and the tent is an OEX Bandicoot II. 0:00 Introduction 0:20 Sailing south 2:40 Arbroa...
Swell Sailing in Drascombe Lugger Lily Ella off Stonehaven
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Drascombe Lugger Lilly Ella sails in the swell and waves off Stonehaven harbour. This video could be classed as "Slow TV" - nothing really happens - so don't be disappointed! It's just 5 1/2 minutes of sailing back and fore, no real action, no music. If you enjoy being at sea in a Drascombe, like being away from the crowds, or just dream of setting sail in a small boat you may get past the firs...
Drascombe Lugger Lily Ella sails from Stonehaven to Cove and back
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Drascombe Lugger Lily Ella sails from Stonehaven to Cove and back. Downwind there with spinnaker and a choppy trip back with a reef required. A condensed video taking out all (most of) the straight sailing leaving the interesting (hopefully) bits! 0:00 Downwind to Cove 0:14 Time to take down spinnaker 1:16 Gybing 1:50 Rolling away the main 3:20 Motoring in to Cove 4:43 Leaving Cove 5:45 Setting...
Drascombe Lugger Spinnaker Problems as "Lily Ella" Sails from Stonehaven
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This is a real time video of problems experienced with an asymmetric spinnaker on the Drascombe Lugger “Lily Ella” sailing from Stonehaven. I did finally get the spinnaker up on a downwind run and there is some footage already on TH-cam. Downwind run with a bit of surfing th-cam.com/video/0hRxCmMQcd0/w-d-xo.html General view of spinnaker and boat set up. th-cam.com/video/R19pPFuK5R0/w-d-xo.html
Reefing Drascombe Lugger "Lily Ella" whilst sailing from Stonehaven Harbour
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I was asked about reefing my Drascombe Lugger "Lily Ella" and thought the best way was to share this video and add some narrative. Filmed in real time it shows how I reef the boat and takes about 7 minutes. If I thought I would share the video I'd probably have tried to do it a bit quicker! PS Watch in HD if you can.
Drascombe Lugger "Lily Ella" Sailing with 2 reefs, 1 reef and full sail
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"Lily Ella' sailing from Stonehaven. Started off with two reefs and as the wind eased off took one out and then both out.
Drascombe Lugger with Spinnaker sailing downwind
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Drascombe Lugger "Lily Ella" sailing downwind with RS200 Spinnaker, off Stonehaven, Scotland. Estimating the low end of a F4. Sail back was long and wet - two reefs in main and three rolls of jib - as the wind picked up!
Drascombe Lugger with RS200 Spinnaker
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Drascombe Lugger "Lily Ella" sailing off Stonehaven with RS200 spinnaker.
Drascombe Lugger "Lily Ella" Sailing from Stonehaven
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A compilation of videos taken on board the Drascombe Lugger "Lily Ella" as she sails from her home port of Stonehaven on North East Scotland.
Drascombe Luggers Sail in Stonehaven Bay
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Some video footage of “Goosander” taken from “Lily Ella” on what turned out to be the last sail of the 2020 season. Both Luggers now ashore for the winter.
Drascombe Lugger Tent
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Bandicoot II tent set up on boards on a Drascombe Lugger. Video doesn't show the inner being rigged up. I'd recommend for just one person. Although a 2-man tent it would be a bit of a squeeze Update August 2023 My deck plank system has been revised with a new much better system: takes up less space, the flysheet of the tent can be erected before the planks go down, therefore giving quicker (or ...
SPV1 Lily Ella Rolling Down From Ardlui
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Drascombe Association Rally - Loch Lomond 2019
SPV26 Orkney Yole with my kids ca 30 years ago
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SPV26 Orkney Yole with my kids ca 30 years ago
My Coaster did well under jib and mizzen, a comfortable sail plan in busy conditions.
Hi Greg, The lugger is great for day sails, fishing, pottering about and taking the grand kids out, but the coaster is much superior for longer cruises!
Hi Steve, any possibility of a video showing how you tie the knots you use.
Hi David, Thanks for watching! Lots of standard knots I use like bowlines, reef knots, figures of eight etc. I'm sure you're familiar with. One of the specialist knots I use is the Topsail Halyard Hitch to tie my gaff to the halyard. When the halyard is pulled bar tight, this keeps the gaff really close to the mast and gives good sail shape. When I reef the main the knot is tied at the required position on the gaff. Here's a link to a video short I made some time ago for somebody - another Dave! th-cam.com/users/shortsV4fhvY7lxLc
Thanks Steve. I will let you know how I get on. I have a lot to learn and am starting out late in life. You have many years experience and it shows in your seamanship.
@@davidford4200 Easy / small steps and keep it safe! Good luck!
Seems this boat was making absolutely no headway as each time its was heave to it was blow straight back to where it was. Seemed under powered under most sail configurations. The tacks were too often so the boat just wondered around the same stretch of sea. I would say this was a very instructive video how not to sail a boat!
Hi Mike, Thanks for watching. Judging by your comments, you appear to have misunderstood the reason for my afternoon sail, ref. the title of the video.
@@steveporteous3157 No I did not. Sails like so many other bits of technology we use have been developed and refined for best performance over many decades. Why then if there exists many finely evolved sails that are easy to use and preform well do you then experiment with a sail contraption that is not only cumbersome to use but performs really terribly! Why not use the best there is and not experiment with retrogressive modes of sail?
Not everyone has the funds to own / sail the likes of Ineos Britannia. Until I do, I’m very happy to sail my boat and post the occasional video for those that wish to see a more traditional sailing boat in open water.
Very good video
IMHO you might speed up the reefing procedure with these 2 followings "tricks": 1.- permanently tie up the mainsail halyard to the spot where should be once you reef and tie-up the halyard when you sail full main to the spot of the gaff good for this purpose with a dog-bone lashing: when you need to reef you just untie, open the lashing, the loop and then you are ready to have the halyard for the reefing purpose. 2.- the reef-points if ended with a spliced softeye only in one leg might be very useful when you tie the reef-points just passing one leg of them onto the softeye so pulling as much as you need.
@@danilofabbroni3067 Good points. I try to keep things simple and find that the halyard attached directly to the gaff holds the gaff close in to the mast, gives good sail shape and allows a high luff tension. I’ve marked the gaff at each halyard position so it takes out the guesswork for the correct position. I also like the flexibility of setting the main higher or lower depending upon conditions, who’s on board etc. Quite like the soft eye reefing point idea - it would certainly make the reefing quicker. Not so sure about shaking out the reefs though - reef knots are so easy to untie, even when pulled tight. Thanks for watching.
@@steveporteous3157 Thanks for the acute and swift reply: I truly understand your point and it does make sense.... :)
I WILL BOUNCE YOUR VIDEO IN THE FCBK PGAE OF MINE DFRIGGING+PHOTO
MARVELLOUS INDEED!
Thanks for watching!
@@steveporteous3157 smart little boat indeed!
Looks like your lugger handles rough sea with ease,
Thanks for watching Steven. Yes, it sails well in the long swell / waves. Was out yesterday when it was a bit windier and there was a short chop - very wet so only stayed out for 1/2 hr or so!
What a lovely video, a great advert for the lugger. Good speed, sails much better than I imagined.
Thanks Steven. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Excellent video, thanks Steve
Thanks Mark. Glad you enjoyed it!
She looks like a fine vessel.
Thanks Doc!
I remember those waves! We used ti sail Aberdeen University 420's out of Stonehaven - crazy and very wet. Lugger is much more practical :-)
Hi Neil, Great fun I imagine surfing a 420 down those waves! I seem to remember British University match racing competitions being held at Stonehaven some time ago. Whilst a 420 may be faster, the lugger is better if you want to do a spot of fishing!
Wow 🤩👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Hope you enjoyed watching!
A decent old sail there as always!! Showing what that boat can do!!! Do you know what WIndfinder (or you!) would have said the wave height was on that day, especially early on in the video? Seemed to clear up nicely though.
Hi Dave, A sail in those conditions is always very rewarding! I can’t remember what Windfinder (Black Hill) was saying about wave heights but I’d guess about 1 - 1.5m max. It’s always difficult to estimate “wave” height when there is a long underlying swell, some small local wind driven waves and then reflected waves / swell off the cliffs. You’ll notice it is a relatively dry sail with little spray / water coming aboard. The waves aren’t frequently breaking and I think there was just one breaking wave that slapped the hull and sent significant amounts of water over me and the boat! The waves aren’t steep waves and only really break / roll close to the shelving beach as it gets shallower. There’s not much tidal current so the offshore waves don’t get affected - much. The closer you get to the cliffs the greater the reflected wave effect and the seas can get very “confused”! 😎
Impressive sea conditions.
Hi Derrick, Part of the reason I sail is to see / be in the changing sea conditions. It’s always difficult to capture the majesty of the sea in a video but hopefully some of it comes through. I particularly like the shots towards the sun with the silver sea! 🙂
What a great video. Very impressed with how your lugger sailed, much much better than I thought and handled sea with ease
Thanks for watching Steven! The three sails makes it fun to try out different combinations.
Hello Steve! Thank You so much for this very well made video! There are so many useful hints and things, helpful for any Drascombe sailor, no matter whether novice or seasoned salt dog... Plenty, plenty details to look at and learn or compare, eg with "my way" handling similar situations on the water! Good job, man! Have to go thrugh the whole stack of your videos - and I´ll try to find some material of ... well my boat and "my way". A.s.a.p. Greetings from Germany Stephan aka Okko from Devon Longboat `Petoya Blue` / Arnis, Western Baltic
Thanks for your kind comments! As you say, there are many ways to handle situations on a boat / Drascombe - it's just finding out the ones that are right for you and your boat. I look forward to seeing videos of "Petoya Blue" on the water!
@@steveporteous3157 Hi Steve, I´ll go to work and send something, I just try to put all my small archives together in one collection, different pc´s, laptops and smartphones. But it will mostly be pictures, snapshots - have not yet worked with a permanently installeed video cam. And mostly under way single handed. Regards Stephan
What length is you Luger and how much to stay overnight please? Thks lovely video
Glad you enjoyed the video.| The Drascombe Lugger is 5.7m long. Arbroath marina has a daily charge of £32 per boat unless you stay for a week and then it's £20/m. Anchorages free, but the east coast of Scotland is very exposed for a small boat. There are a limited number of suitable sheltered harbours but distances are quite large for a lugger under sail.
Love just hearing the wind and sea and the boat. Great lesson in sailing. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
Excellent tutorial on sailing in heavy-ish weather. Great job!
Thanks. It's great fun practising so when the weather does really pick up I know what to expect, what works and what doesn't!
Good work on the M(H)OB retrieval!
Thanks - it had to be right first time as I know from experience that it sinks before a second attempt!
The meals cooked on boats like this taste best :) Thank you for these impressions !
Glad you liked the video! Meals on my boat are definitely for sustenance rather than being enjoyable!
That’s a great little set up.
Thanks! Hope you enjoyed the video.
Quede bien mareado viendo este video...., saludos
I hope you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
i bet you could eat a good bowl of stew after that sail.
Thanks for watching, and yes!
Great video, you're a great sailor.
Thanks John - just plenty of time in the boat! Glad you enjoyed the video.
There's a video on YT of two 50'-60'yachts, one under main & jib and way behind is a spec in the distance, a ketch under jib & mizzen only. It's flying, overtakes the yacht & sails away ahead into the distance.
Do you happen to have the link for that?
@@steveporteous3157 Can't find it again. It was a story about ketches & yawls as live aboard / big touring boats. Mizzen & jib combos seem very popular with them.
I must admit after being quite an accomplished sea canoeist I got into dinghy sailing and yes I took some risks, I’m afraid I didn’t think my drascombe was a good sea boat when conditions worsened I don’t know how I would cope with a capsize. The likes of a wayfarer you could right, I don’t think I could do that with my drascombe anyway I now have a little French Tri exciting stuff but keep an eye on the weather for sure.
Hi John, Thanks for watching. I treat my Drascombe as an open boat, knowing that if I were to capsize I would be in serious trouble, but that does not stop me from sailing. Sailing is a continuous risk assessment - wind, waves, tide, location (wind/wave impact, safe haven), forecast(s), boat type/condition, crew experience to name a few (well most of!), all to be assessed. If the risk is too high, including that of capsize, then my plans are modified accordingly. Safe sailing, and kayaking!
Thanks for reply yes on some of my little trips I wonder what my fisherman grandad from Fisherrow would have said about my sometimes hairy little sails on my little Astus 16.1 if he had still been around.
Very impressing. I am looking forward to buy a Lugger and this video helps a lot forward to buy one :-) THX!!!
Enjoy your lugger when you get it!
Mindegyik egy külön világ... Más másképp fogják a hullámokat....
Thanks for commenting. Used Google Translate and it seems like a very profound statement!
Nem lehet megunni ,ezeket a kis vitorlasokat...
A lovely video!
Olin Stephens ,of Sparkman & Stevens fame, thought that jib and mizzen was a bad idea, because neither mast is built for that stress combination. He held that a reefed main alone was the better way to go . I’ll qualify this with as I remember him saying.
I remember that too, especially for masts set up with a bend, fractional rigs etc. The main (full or reefed) provides support along the length of the mast. I think the small loads and short mast of the Drascombe should be OK though. Someone else also said to keep the main and mizzen mast independently stayed, so that one mast doesn't pull the other mast down if one were to go. So the Drascombe meets that requirement! Thanks for commenting.
Someone wise once told me the time to put a reef in is right after “should” when you think to yourself, “I wonder if I should put a reef in”.
And I'm sure the same wise man then said, "When you think it's time to shake out a reef, wait for 10 minutes."
My father had a Drascombe longboat. The mizzen was quite small. On the whole, I don't think it added much power but it did help to push the stern around when tacking in light breezes.
I think you're right. Really useful for balancing the sail plan, tacking, heaving to, and for attaching the "GoPro" camera to!
love this!
Great information Steve..
Thanks Kevin - glad you enjoyed it!
Is it me or are you sailing to close ease off just a few degrees. that main sail seems to be set really well though. I may be wrong I am not sailing the boat I sail by feel.
Hi Andy, You could be right! It's a long video though (so not sure which part you are referring to), and I wasn't really trying to make good passage progress to windward so I certainly wasn't knowingly trying to pinch. Sometimes if it's windy I might sail a bit closer to the wind to make it easier to feather the sails by luffing up slightly - saves having to let out and pull back in the main.
So sorry great video it was just a gut feeling whilst you were sailing looking at the sail. Sailing is all down to feel so I admit I may be wrong. @@steveporteous3157
Hi @@andypandy955 , No problem! Appreciate you take the time to watch the video and comment. Best regards, Steve
Only this is not a spinnaker, but a gennaker. It is simpler and more convenient to manage.
Ah yes, the good old asymmetric spinnaker vs gennaker debate! Happy to call it anything, but as you say it's a lot simpler than a symmetrical spinnaker set flying with a pole.
I love the way LE hoves to. So simple to do it, and then lies so quietly.
Yes that mizzen makes heaving to very straight forward!
The Luger quality speaks for itself. Loved your tent setup. As an old salt I would have enjoyed knowing your charted nautical distance , wind and hull speed etc. In all though , still enjoyed. Paul in Canada
Glad you enjoyed it Paul. The total distance travelled was 60NM over the 4 days, 30NM on the first day and coming back split over three days. Wind probably maxed out at 15 - 20 knots on day one and maximum speed probably ca 6 - 7 knots surfing down waves. Average speeds a lot less! When I'm planning trips I usually use 3 knots and that works fairly well.
@@steveporteous3157 perfect. I have cruised extensively and wanted to get the feel of your cruise/ camping. I would say well done. Fair winds
I remember ln my first race sailing a laser in swell like this
That would have been fun, and I daresay a bit wetter than on the Drascombe!
Delightful thanks for sharing
Thanks David - glad you enjoyed it!
Always wanted a drascomb longboat
Never too late to start looking!
Mr. Porteous, I thank you very much for the pedagogical and descriptive orientation of the contents of your videos and especially of this last one. I have seen that he has made many tests on the rigging and sails of his ship, definitively adopting some, and discarding others. The one I want to ask you about is the mizzen. Putting a boom on the mizzen is a change you are happy with. However, in the reasons for the change from the bomkin to the boom, I see that it is done for the convenience of not having an annoying and dangerous appendage coming out of the stern. What I want to ask you is if that change improved the performance of the sail. If the candle is now more useful and has a more complete use. (Or was it just the comfort) Thank you. Best regards Pablo. Asturias (Spain)
Hi Pablo, I’m glad you enjoy the videos and thank you for commenting again. You will have seen below in your previous comment the reasoning for installing the mizzen boom. Has the mizzen boom enhanced the performance of the sail? I would say yes, especially off the wind where the boom holds out the sail. There is also the ability vary the tension along the foot of the mizzen sail while at the same time changing the boom angle with the mizzen sheet. However, I think the performance advantage will be quite small. The biggest advantages are as mentioned in the earlier comment. One small disadvantage is that it is slightly more difficult to fold / roll away the sail after sailing, when at anchor or just sailing without the mizzen. Best regards, Steve
I wonder what do you do with the tiller when moving about the boat and changing sail configuration?
Hi Robert, I’ve got a loop of bungee cord tied to my mainsheet cleat that is in the centre of the boat at the aft end of the centre-plate casing. I just loop this over the tiller and it holds it reasonably central. I like the bungee cord in this position because if necessary I can still steer the boat without taking it off, and it isn’t a trip hazard. There’s a TH-cam video that shows it in use, about 4min 40 seconds in: th-cam.com/video/UxoW7ICZ2kg/w-d-xo.html or a shorter one th-cam.com/video/2Q8zz_1lj5Y/w-d-xo.html
I’ve enjoyed your videos immensely - Thank you! While camping out in my Drascombe Lugger, I’ve been sleeping (trying to) on the floor, next to the center-board. I’m envious of your planking/sleeping deck. Could you please share the type of wood, size, dimensions and where it’s stowed while under way? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Greg Smith, Salem Oregon
Hi Greg, The planks were made from wood sourced from my local B&Q DIY store - just their cheap whitewood, might be spruce or pine. I sized the thickness by seeing what could support my weight across the required span - without bending too much. My lugger is a Mk1 with the low centre plate casing so the planks can easily span across over the top of the CP casing. The planks are 192 mm wide and 18 mm thick, and cut to fit inside the side tanks resting on battens screwed into the side tanks (see the video from 3:02 onwards). The first planks at the bow have a tendency to fall off the battens at each side if they move backwards by even a few cm, so the fifth plank has a locating pin that fits into the side battens. After that, the planks are a similar length, or get smaller at the back, so don’t fall off. Re the stowage whilst under way, if you pause the video at 3:02 you’ll see the boards stored on the starboard side pushed as far forward as possible. They are supported by the centre plate casing and side tanks and are sturdy enough to walk on. From the picture at 3:02 you’ll see the planks are slid under the bracing at the front of the CP casing - this was one of the reasons for selecting the width of the planks. I actually started off with a different system where the planks crossed all the way across the side tanks - but this was modified. You can see this on another video. It was really a trial version to see how the tent would fit. Some of the comments on that video may be useful. th-cam.com/video/mZlv86c6bhI/w-d-xo.html I went for a standard land based tent with an inner tent and flysheet. I felt it was important to separate the wet salty section of the boat from a dry inner sleeping space - also keeps the midges out. Good luck!
Thanks a lot Steve. ‘Looks like a fun winter project! I have similar tent. I stow it abit differently - keeping the poles/hoops inside the tent and slip it (approx. 9’ and “bendy”) in a long skinny bag in front and around the main mast. Thank you, again for your videos! Greg
Dear Sir, thank you for this instructive viseo. No tedious comments as well as no boring music, juste straight to the target. Congratulations and greetings from Switzerland, Walter
Thanks Walter - glad you enjoyed it!
C O B drill v good
What a great video to watch! Except some experience with sailing as a kid some +50 years ago I had no opportunity to sail. I am considering to build my own dinghy and there is plenty material regarding this on YT but this video gave me a lot of reality on tacking, handling sails and obviously there is a lot to learn. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it Pavol! Good luck with your dinghy build - hope to see that on TH-cam!