Looks a lot like him too. When I saw that picture, my first thought was "holy sh*t Michael Biehn was PERFECT to play him. Even if it had been a silent film.
I caught that too. Rewinded because I had a few 🍺s in me. But nope, heard it right the first time. Boy, you wanna talk about one old outlaw cowboy. He may have even been rocking out to the new Van Halen
Some reports say he was dealing with excruciating pain. The heavy drinking to drunken blindness and the blackouts were his attempt to deal with the pain.
@@williamgullett8071 That photo is of an Italian American resident of Tombstone A.T. taken by Camillius Fly. It has been misidentified as Doc Holiday for years and they even cast Stacey Keach as DOC in the movie because he looked like this photo!
When I was a kid in San Jose Ca. we lived down the road from the ringo family . We would play quick draw with our cap guns . Now I know why I could never get the drop on'em .
I’m guessing at my memory from last year…. the marker at his gravesite said he was drunk for days….. it was extremely hot, he seemed to be lost looking for a small spring ….. and at some point had lost his boots…. Speculated he killed himself because he knew he was close to death anyway…… body found about 300 yards from the spring. This event took place in the foothills of the Chiricahua mountains….. west side.
It’s “huckle bearer” in the early 1800’s the handle on the casket was a “huckle” and the person or people that carried it was “bearers” hence “huckle bearer”. To be honest I had it wrong for years too😜
Damn, I wish I had run into him in 1978 through 1980 as I still have not met anyone in excess of a 100 years old. Wait, I may have had a beer with him in 1979 0r 1980. I had a chuckle over the narration dates. Still a fun video.
she fell asleep reading 1978 1979 and 1980 when johnny ringo ran into some outlaws mongols and hells angels and was tied to a motorcycle and dragged to tombstone aridzona
There were 2 people who he crossed paths with literally hours before his death. They stated he was riding almost unconscious after heavy drinking the nights prior and he was heading back to where he stayed to sleep off the massive hangover he would have been facing. There was something relevant about there interaction as they crossed paths that puts further doubt on the suicide and supports he was murdered in likely a very cowardly fashion.
I once fired a .44 black powder revolver, the kick was incredible. After firing the gun moved from my eye level to above and behind my head. I have a hard time believing that a dead person held onto this type of gun after firing. The absence of powder burns is not credible either.
I had the opportunity to read some court cases from Clifton, Arizona. One that stands out is on where a miner came home after his shift and found his wife in bed with another man. The miner shot them both and the judge's decision was justifiable homicide. Clifton-Morenci-Metcalf was one of the more violent places in the state, but doesn't have the same publicity.
@@warriorpoet2968 no. most 'law enforcement' was utterly fucking corrupt. Read some actual history of law enforcement. Earp wanted to be sheriff because they were paid through the fines they levied... it was worth a couple million a year. In addition if you wanted to run an organised criminal enterprise the first thing you did was pay off the sheriff and chief of police. The job of the police wasnt to enforce the law. It was to serve the powerful and take as much graft as they could. Things havent really changed much
I live 22 miles from Burnet, TX. I commend you for pronouncing it correctly [burn-it]. Years ago a local gift shop sold souvenir T-Shirts that read, "It's Burnet durn it, ya gotta learn it!"
As a Texan who grew up on the Gulf Coast, that's one of the first things I learned after moving to the Hill Country. I add my congratulations on the correct pronunciation!
Dillinger was.. something. Really really didnt like the cops. Imho most violent criminals are cowards. Hell most violent cops too. But if dillinger saw a police uniform he was like a bull seeing red. (also pretty sure he was a very bad man heh)
The little Frenchman’s picture is used for Doc Holiday a lot and now a stand in for Johnny Ringo. When he had his picture taken all that many years ago he would have never guessed that he would be called every name except his real one. I’m talking about the dandy at the front of the TH-cam video.
@@fastcareddiethehitmanhearn1632 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣that's like me anywhere I muthafuckin go!!!we need to make new and old cowboy movies again!!!🤣🤣👏👏👍👍🖕🖕whynot???shit is too awesome and fun to let fuckin die!!!am I right...lunger???DRAW!!!!!👍👏🤣🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
He was very interesting, but there were many other interesting outlaws. Billy the Kid, Butch and Sundance, John Wesley Hardin, Frank Curry, Curly Bill Brocius, Melvin A. King, Ben Thompson, Bonnie and Clyde, Pearl Heart, etc etc
In a study of almost 500 similar incidents to Jonny Ringo 24% of the time the gun was still in the persons hand. 69% of the time it was not in the hand but nearby.
Quotngi Shakespeare was very common in the american west.. Most people could do that because the King James version of the Bible and a few volumes of Shakespeare were frequently the basis of what we would now call English and Composition classes.. best Bruce Peek
If you read a lot of the old correspondence by people with a theoretically vastly inferior education to ours the writing, critical thinking, and logic were vastly superior to the >average< person's today. A caveat a high school grad back then (and they were rare) wouldnt' have had a clue about physics, trigonometry etc that todays kids in decent schools are taking in jr high
I've Got 2 Belgium Malinois Named Doc & Ringo (who also answers to J.R.) Best Dogs in the World in my Opinion, Ringo Saved My 3yr old Daughter From drowning when He was 3 also, they get along quite a bit better than their namesakes
Johnny Ringo was released in May of 1978? Lol. I have to play that back a few times to make sure it said 1978, I know it was a mistake but it made me laugh thank you.
P Jj 5 days ago Michael Biehn played Ringo very well, even if the script wasn't at all accurate concerning the real Ringo. He would have received a lot more attention for the role had Val Kilmer not done such an excellent job with Doc Holliday. It still bothers me a little that the line "I'm your huckleberry" was used and became so popular. That line was not historically correct. It should have been "I'm you huckle bearer". A "huckle" is one of the handles on the side of a casket. A "bearer" is one of the people who carries the casket. This makes sense. "I'm your huckleberry makes no sense at all, and it just stupid. The writer made that mistake, and no one else knew enough about anything to catch it.
Did Ringo ever participate in a real fast draw gunfight? Sounds like the old west gunfighters went around ambushing each other like in modern day Chicago.
I agree, with one exception,J.W.Hardin was efficient, willing, extremely capable. Example,a punk lawman back shot Hardin rather than chance a face to face encounter.Hardin practiced daily and started killing at a young age.
@@CaffeineThrottle The idea of two men facing each other down at noon on an empty street with spectators was inspired by Wild Bill Hickok and the shooting of Davis Tutt. Hardin was efficient and willing. Most fights were not 'Fair' given there is no such thing. Shooting in the back was made more of a dishonorable trope in Hollywood.
Jeffrey H. - Look up Hardin's death, he was shot in the back by John Selman, a constable. This occurred in the Acme Saloon. I do not know what gave you the idea that I felt he or any killer/survivor participated in any high noon honorable shootings. I despise T.V. theatrics.I research and read. I would behave the same way if I had the start JWH had in life. The panacea do not mention that Hardin used his prison time well and became an educated attorney at law. Ironic that a little cocksucker like Selman and his chicken shit son feared,and don't forget envied , Hardin enough to back shoot him .Selman did this in public because he knew the badge would protect him and he wanted the fame. Only one worked.
I find him an interesting person, but highly romanticized. His use of alcohol could have been self medicating... Michael Bean surely increased Ringo's image. He and Val deserve Oscars... probably historically inaccurate but Super characterizations.
They were always too departmental to be as clinical as they wanted to be. No buddy kills 'em like that winged horse ridin' Kirk Douglas kills 'em, Lil Bullet.
I wish someone would do a something on Dave Rudabaugh. He is the reason Earp met Holiday. He was in the Railroad Wars. He rode with Billy the Kid. He also a member of the Clantons in Arizona.
he must have been quite a Sprite fellow. Considering she's claiming he did these things at the age of over 120. Ringo was quite the centurion. I hope someone explains to the narrator the difference between the 1800s and the 20th century.
@@normanvest1470 he was playing poker in a bar in Parral, Chihuahua. A gunfight happened over the game. He shot and killed a man. He went outside to get his horse and the horse was gone. He went back into the bar, and the other bar patrons killed him. They chopped his head off with a machete. Then they put his head on a spike outside town warning other outlaws to stay out.
I love the movie Tombstone it's my favorite movie and doubt that back in the day they were concerned about how a murder died and I know they were happy it was over
Johnny Ringo was really a small time punk that was basically just a hanger-on in various gangs. His notoriety comes from the fact that he had a cool sounding name. If his last name was Smith or Jones we would never have heard of him.
Johnny: Don't any of you have the guts to play for Blood ? Doc:. I'm your Huckleberry, That's just my Game Johnny : Alright Lunger I'll send ya to Hell Doc : SAY WHEN
Him saying Huckle bearer is an internet myth and not what was said, in the movie and script it was huckleberry. Regardless if you think it was supposed to be the latter because it's theorized to be more location/time appropriate.
@@lightblade543 I just changed it back , I guess I should have looked it up before I changed it the 1st time, I wondered why my family has been in the Mortuary Transportation business for 78yrs and I've never heard the term, except the net, lol I'm leaving it now, first choice is usually correct ,in my opinion Val Kilmers' Best Role of his Career and Kurt Russell
Apparently, Johnny Ringo witnessed the disco era according to the dates quoted. How can you possibly make such a mistake in the presentation? I mean, no one proof read the text?
Not Doc Holliday, Tombstone Photographer Camillius Fly gave a random picture of a Tombstone resident to a reporter asking for Docs photo, in the late 1880's . The photo has been misidentified ever since as Doc.
@@johnmcmahon8513 Well, blow me, I didn't know that. I have had great interest in this subject since both of the films, Tombstone and Wyatt Earp. Many thanks for the correct information.
I've read where some think that Wyatt and Holiday found him and killed him.They very well could have and propped him up against the tree. I've actually heard to he was found in the fork of a tree as well
Well if you check out the history it says Doc and Wyatt was in Colorado when Johnny was killed. He was found with his pants down and the gun in his hand was not his. A lot of people really think that Doc and Wyatt killed him.
"Thus Johnny Ringo was released in May 1978..." REALLY?!?!?!? Hell!! No wonder his date of demise is unknown!!! They got Johnny livin in the wrong century dadgummit!!
Have you heard Lorne Greene's magnificent "spoken song" about the story of Ringo. Well worth listening to. Chills, and even more chills at the very end.
That's Awesome , I Have 2 Belgian Malinois I've Raised Since Pups Named Doc & Ringo ( Ringo Also Answers to J.R.) . They Get On Quite A Bit Better than Their Name Sakes Did, Best Dogs I've Ever Had .
Interesting food for thought, anyway. But there are a couple of things that are not correct. First was the claim Ringo came from a large family of 5 children. That was not a large family in 1850, it was the average sized family. Second was more of an editing error, when just before and after the 7:00 mark of the video, she stated dates of 1978, 1979 and 1980, an obvious reading mistake by the narrator. What else was missed in researching Ringo? Maybe nothing, but when you have the little things incorrect, it makes you wonder about the bigger picture.
I met with a history professor in college who was obsessed with Tombstone and the participants involved. He traveled the country talking to people who were still alive or relatives and he told me that after all his research he landed on the conclusion that Doc Holliday killed him over a woman but it wasn't a one on one gunfight like in the movie but rather Doc lay in wait and snuck up on him and killed him. How true that is I do not know 🤷♂️
@@phataton7588 yeah gunfights in the old west were really nothing like you see in the movies lol. Only one I can really think of was Wild Bill and David Tate (I could be wrong on that name) but they did have a gunfight that would be like in the movies but none of this at the stroke on noon and take 10 paces stuff lol
Last I’ve heard is a letter was found from Wyatt to his wife. Wyatt saying he shot him from a ridge nearby and hit him in the head by a miracle, because he wouldn’t have been able to take him in a straightforward draw.
I thought it was to save Wyatt because he knew Wyatt as good as he was could not go against Ringo becaue Ringo did not play fair Ringo would shoot a man in the back and not think twice now if Ringo made a pass at Big Nose Kate I an see Doc getting revenge for that too! Bu the movie was not that far off he was afraid Ringo woulddouble cross and kill Wyatt Doc had one true friend in the world and it was Wyatt Earp
@@aprilgosa5779 I've heard that one also. Like I said that was just his theory after studying it for a long time but doesn't mean he was right. There is credence though to the claims that Doc and Ringo had problems over Kate so idk 🤷♂️. I'm just settled that it was Doc who killed Ringo and not Wyatt as Wyatt as he said in his book but that's just my opinion 🤷♂️
I am going to nit-pick. The reader states several time 19xx instead of 18xx. Several other times the reader makes statements that are not of the text and are way off. Not a good quality historical video. Please proof read your content.
My name is Ringo. I was named after Johnny Ringo by my father. I got to live and work in Tombstone for two months. I met the town historian, Ben Trawick who literally wrote the book on Ringo. He told me Ringo murdered two people and never got into a gunfight. I guess we'll never really know.
@DontLookBack wrong answer. I was named after John Peter's Ringo of Tombstone fame. You see, I'm 67 years old and couldn't possibly be named after Richard Starkey the Beatle. He hadn't assumed the nickname Ringo at that time. Nice try though.
Doc holiday was always very good with his hands,or slight of hand,dealing cards,hiding cards and could always out drawn the drunken Ringo,there fore Holiday killed Ringo fair and square and there is evidence given by relatives of Ringo that he knew Doc was faster which made him depressed...........
Prove it,it has to be in writing,not somebody's word.You might ask the guy that own's the Magazine,"True West",now there's a person that can tell you,fact or fiction,HIS WORD IS LAW WHEN IT COMES TO WESTERN HISTORY,COWBOY HISTORY,LAW ENFORCMENT BACK FROM 1800-1950.
Yep an actual Arizona history research team went to Ringos final resting spot and found that a single bullet had gone through Ringos temple. If you go to Turkey Creek the land owner has a gate up that you may go through and see Ringos grave so as long you take nothing and close the gate when you come n go. Turkey Creek also is a 45 minute drive do north east of Tombstone
I've made trek to Ringos grave. It's as advertised. Well worth the trip. There's another grave and forked tree about 50 feet his marker. It's a very curious site. Go and visit. It's all fenced off now-a-days.
It's not even DOC HOLLIDAY . True West Magazine and Arizona Historical Society stated that he is an Italian American Tombstone resident , mistaken for DOC years ago. Camillius Fly took the photograph at his studio. Bob Bell can confirm this information.
Michael Biehn played him sooooooooo well...from opening scene to ending scene...should have won award in Tombstone
AMEN!!!
Looks a lot like him too. When I saw that picture, my first thought was "holy sh*t Michael Biehn was PERFECT to play him. Even if it had been a silent film.
A lot of awards should have went to Tombstone.
I’ve always thought that Michael Biehn s’ performance as Johnny Ringo was highly underated! He was awesome! …definitely should have won an award!
@@sarahshannon760 Johnny Ringo and Doc Holiday were the real main characters in Tombstone.
Poor soul. You were just too high strung.
😅🤣😂
That's what my mom used to say about me 😆
I’m you’re Huckleberry
Or need to be strung too high.
@@Paladin1873 not funny
Released in May 1978! Wow. I bet he could groove to some Bee Gees on a lighted dance floor!
At age 128, they say his favorite disco hit was 'Stayin' Alive."
And his favorite Beatle was always 'Ringo'.
I caught that too. Rewinded because I had a few 🍺s in me. But nope, heard it right the first time. Boy, you wanna talk about one old outlaw cowboy.
He may have even been rocking out to the new Van Halen
Johnny Ringo: Old West Vampire
He didn't like the Beatles...he was their DRUMMER!
Then she goes on to say 1979 & 1980…🤔
He was killed in a fair gunfight with Doc Holliday. I saw it in the documentary film, "Tombstone".
True story. 😂
I know, let's have a spelling contest.
Costner was killed there too.
@@skronked haha 😂
Maybe not, so says Gary Roberts, a history professor who is a guru on this. Wrote books about it. He says alot of the movie is false.
I heard 1979 and 1980. I was like wow, he lived a long time. Great show.
Yeah he did a hundred year jail sentence
That whole narration was awful. Misread and mispronounced words in almost every paragraph. How did this get past editing?
@@steveabq7913 yeah almost like she read the rough draft.
In 1984 he told Sarah Connor, "Come with me, if you want to live," so anything is possible! 😂
@@zenmaestro6029 so Johnny ringo is a terminator T-1000?
Didn’t know he was a time traveler. A most accomplished gunslinger indeed.
I saw that, most impressive!
Yes the 1970’s was an interesting decade
I study the west only found one gunfight and he shot him in the back
Some reports say he was dealing with excruciating pain. The heavy drinking to drunken blindness and the blackouts were his attempt to deal with the pain.
The old photograph of Johnny Ringo does resemble the actor Michael Biehn who played him in Tombstone, just like Wyatt Earp resembles Kurt Russell.
In the eyes definitely
@@williamgullett8071
That photo is of an Italian American resident of Tombstone A.T. taken by Camillius Fly. It has been misidentified as Doc Holiday for years and they even cast Stacey Keach as DOC in the movie because he looked like this photo!
I don’t mean this rudely,but you have it backwards.The Actors resemble the two men they portrayed.
They were not actors. They were the actual people.
@@Baka_Komuso uh no
Judging from the dates stated, I’d say that Johnny Ringo had an unusually long life…
😂
I guess he travelled with Marty McFly in Doc Brown's Delorean, right?
@@ShowaEraGaijin 🤣
And served a heck of a sentence if he wasn’t released until 1978
@@knifehandz 🤣 I think that’s a different movie bro, but ok!
When I was a kid in San Jose Ca. we lived down the road from the ringo family .
We would play quick draw with our cap guns .
Now I know why I could never get the drop on'em .
the scene in the bar doing the thing with the cups,,classic
there are at least two versions. the director's cut version is longer and funnier
many thanks to Toby Keith for that.
I’m guessing at my memory from last year…. the marker at his gravesite said he was drunk for days….. it was extremely hot, he seemed to be lost looking for a small spring ….. and at some point had lost his boots…. Speculated he killed himself because he knew he was close to death anyway……
body found about 300 yards from the spring.
This event took place in the foothills of the Chiricahua mountains….. west side.
He was killed by doc. We all saw it in the movie
And movies never lie, just like the internet!
@@Paladin1873 and your government!
"Look Darling, it's the famous outlaw, Johny Ringo."
No one ever acknowledges
He played drums for the Beatles
I remember back in 1987 or was it 1887? We were all fired up in those days.
🤣
Very good point !
You don't miss a beat man. And why doesn't Curly Bill ever get credit for his role in The Three Stooges?
😆
RIP to the only man to ever be killed by a huckleberry.
He ain't no daisy.
It’s “huckle bearer” in the early 1800’s the handle on the casket was a “huckle” and the person or people that carried it was “bearers” hence “huckle bearer”.
To be honest I had it wrong for years too😜
@@Fewdollas , huckleberry is what Val kilmer's character doc Holliday said in the movie Tombstone.
@@mikewiltshire9121 I thought so too. He actually said “huckle bearer”.
Some say the huckleberry had a co-conspiritor, a daisy.
Damn, I wish I had run into him in 1978 through 1980 as I still have not met anyone in excess of a 100 years old. Wait, I may have had a beer with him in 1979 0r 1980. I had a chuckle over the narration dates. Still a fun video.
Dude I had to re-read that 🤣 I’m like wait hold up how he rode horses and horsepower 🤣 this man is a legend
she fell asleep reading 1978 1979 and 1980 when johnny ringo ran into some outlaws mongols and hells angels and was tied to a motorcycle and dragged to tombstone aridzona
I think I might have been able to out draw him in 1979 or 80 ☠️
@@CaughtCrazy Hilarious, you best be quick however as you never know.
He was also a magnificent rock and roll drummer.
A real Starr!! 😄
He was an ok drummer. With less killing, maiming, and drinking he possibly could have been better.
😅🤣😂
After moving to Liverpool, England.
Thank you so much for the real true story of Johnny Ringo! I'll enjoy retelling this when the topic comes up
And how do you know it's the real, true, story? Because someone posted it here and says so? Hell, they can't even get the year right!
There were 2 people who he crossed paths with literally hours before his death. They stated he was riding almost unconscious after heavy drinking the nights prior and he was heading back to where he stayed to sleep off the massive hangover he would have been facing. There was something relevant about there interaction as they crossed paths that puts further doubt on the suicide and supports he was murdered in likely a very cowardly fashion.
Yeah, falling asleep at the base of a tree is like falling asleep in the trunk of a Buick, same result, getting shot in the head !
I once fired a .44 black powder revolver, the kick was incredible. After firing the gun moved from my eye level to above and behind my head. I have a hard time believing that a dead person held onto this type of gun after firing. The absence of powder burns is not credible either.
@@grogery1570 above and behind? You either have no recoil control or way too much powder
@@grogery1570 agreed
Very unlikely that he was murdered, Ringo was in a drinking stupor and committed suicide ed of story. Interesting character none the less.
The legal system back in those days was interesting, one day you're on trial for murder, next day you're sheriff, or vice versa.
I had the opportunity to read some court cases from Clifton, Arizona. One that stands out is on where a miner came home after his shift and found his wife in bed with another man. The miner shot them both and the judge's decision was justifiable homicide. Clifton-Morenci-Metcalf was one of the more violent places in the state, but doesn't have the same publicity.
Most law enforcement in those days had to be tough. Hiring gun fighters and such was a common practice in those parts
@@warriorpoet2968 no. most 'law enforcement' was utterly fucking corrupt. Read some actual history of law enforcement. Earp wanted to be sheriff because they were paid through the fines they levied... it was worth a couple million a year. In addition if you wanted to run an organised criminal enterprise the first thing you did was pay off the sheriff and chief of police. The job of the police wasnt to enforce the law. It was to serve the powerful and take as much graft as they could. Things havent really changed much
I live 22 miles from Burnet, TX. I commend you for pronouncing it correctly [burn-it]. Years ago a local gift shop sold souvenir T-Shirts that read, "It's Burnet durn it, ya gotta learn it!"
As a Texan who grew up on the Gulf Coast, that's one of the first things I learned after moving to the Hill Country. I add my congratulations on the correct pronunciation!
House-ton, we have a problem...
@@jgunther3398 LOL!!
I'm about 6 miles from that public square in Burnet. Makes me want to go look and see if I can find a bullet.
I'm from Richmond Indiana..10 minutes from where he was born ...there is a festival in his name every year..him and dillinger are loved round here
A festival named after murderous criminals? Nice. Only in Indiana I guess lol
Dillinger was.. something. Really really didnt like the cops. Imho most violent criminals are cowards. Hell most violent cops too. But if dillinger saw a police uniform he was like a bull seeing red. (also pretty sure he was a very bad man heh)
It's amazing how at 7:08 he time traveled 100 years!
Always found outlaws like Ringo and Hardin more interesting than the more popular good guy stories like Earp and Wild Bill
The little Frenchman’s picture is used for Doc Holiday a lot and now a stand in for Johnny Ringo. When he had his picture taken all that many years ago he would have never guessed that he would be called every name except his real one. I’m talking about the dandy at the front of the TH-cam video.
We don't want any trouble.
Ringo:"WELL YOU GOT TROUBLE!!!"😡😡😡
🤣🤣🤣 Classic
"He's just drunk that's all!, come on Johnny nows not the time! You're blacked out!" -Curly Bill
@@fastcareddiethehitmanhearn1632 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣that's like me anywhere I muthafuckin go!!!we need to make new and old cowboy movies again!!!🤣🤣👏👏👍👍🖕🖕whynot???shit is too awesome and fun to let fuckin die!!!am I right...lunger???DRAW!!!!!👍👏🤣🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@fastcareddiethehitmanhearn1632Curly Bill!!!played by Powers Booth!!!outstanding!!!
I've studied them all, and Johnny Ringo was indeed a most interesting character.
Yeah, right.
Where did Johnny Ringo learn how to speak Latin?
@@milliewhipador6213 In high school. Latin was mandatory in most U.S. schools well into the 20th century.
*I saw NOTHING Interesting about Ringo!!!!*
@@Justin.Martyr He didnt seem all that interesting to me either. He had a good name though- which helps the myth
He was very interesting, but there were many other interesting outlaws. Billy the Kid, Butch and Sundance, John Wesley Hardin, Frank Curry, Curly Bill Brocius, Melvin A. King, Ben Thompson, Bonnie and Clyde, Pearl Heart, etc etc
You missed one poker annie
And Pancho and Lefty!
You forgot Fred Dalton Thomson the Tennessee senator turned bad actor wid deep voice .........
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Let's not forget the pale rider!
@@walterfoster5682 you been watching to many movies.
A man like that would never kill him self
depression can take anyone. And people who lead interesting lives.. who confront life.. often do it to fight the darkness
In a study of almost 500 similar incidents to Jonny Ringo 24% of the time the gun was still in the persons hand. 69% of the time it was not in the hand but nearby.
Quotngi Shakespeare was very common in the american west.. Most people could do that because the King James version of the Bible and a few volumes of Shakespeare were frequently the basis of what we would now call English and Composition classes..
best
Bruce Peek
off subject, but talking about Shakespeare: th-cam.com/video/l_UegL1R3X8/w-d-xo.html some humor for you.
Frank James carried his guns & his Bible.
@@susanmccormick6022 Frank James was a serial killing psychopath
If you read a lot of the old correspondence by people with a theoretically vastly inferior education to ours the writing, critical thinking, and logic were vastly superior to the >average< person's today. A caveat a high school grad back then (and they were rare) wouldnt' have had a clue about physics, trigonometry etc that todays kids in decent schools are taking in jr high
"Why Johnny Ringo you looked like somebody just walked over your grave."...
thank you for the video and information on johnny ringo
Thank you so much
I remember reading that news in 1978..
I've Got 2 Belgium Malinois Named Doc & Ringo (who also answers to J.R.) Best Dogs in the World in my Opinion, Ringo Saved My 3yr old Daughter From drowning when He was 3 also, they get along quite a bit better than their namesakes
It’s pretty cool that he is the great grandfather of Ringo Starr.
He lived a long time! Must be a record!
Bigdick,Feet? I THINK???
Good job of narration!
Nice video !
Thank you so much 😀
Thanks for Sharing... Very Interesting Video
Thank you too
Johnny Ringo was released in May of 1978? Lol. I have to play that back a few times to make sure it said 1978, I know it was a mistake but it made me laugh thank you.
P Jj
5 days ago
Michael Biehn played Ringo very well, even if the script wasn't at all accurate concerning the real Ringo. He would have received a lot more attention for the role had Val Kilmer not done such an excellent job with Doc Holliday.
It still bothers me a little that the line "I'm your huckleberry" was used and became so popular. That line was not historically correct. It should have been "I'm you huckle bearer". A "huckle" is one of the handles on the side of a casket. A "bearer" is one of the people who carries the casket. This makes sense. "I'm your huckleberry makes no sense at all, and it just stupid. The writer made that mistake, and no one else knew enough about anything to catch it.
Very true! I'm your Hucklebearer was the correct term!
Did Ringo ever participate in a real fast draw gunfight? Sounds like the old west gunfighters went around ambushing each other like in modern day Chicago.
I have read accounts from life in the famous old west that often claim that these 'fair' draw downs were actually pretty rare. I can believe it.
I agree, with one exception,J.W.Hardin was efficient, willing, extremely capable. Example,a punk lawman back shot Hardin rather than chance a face to face encounter.Hardin practiced daily and started killing at a young age.
They say back in the old West days , most PPL killed by GUNS were shot in the BACK ! .
@@CaffeineThrottle The idea of two men facing each other down at noon on an empty street with spectators was inspired by Wild Bill Hickok and the shooting of Davis Tutt. Hardin was efficient and willing. Most fights were not 'Fair' given there is no such thing. Shooting in the back was made more of a dishonorable trope in Hollywood.
Jeffrey H. - Look up Hardin's death, he was shot in the back by John Selman, a constable. This occurred in the Acme Saloon. I do not know what gave you the idea that I felt he or any killer/survivor participated in any high noon honorable shootings. I despise T.V. theatrics.I research and read. I would behave the same way if I had the start JWH had in life. The panacea do not mention that Hardin used his prison time well and became an educated attorney at law. Ironic that a little cocksucker like Selman and his chicken shit son feared,and don't forget envied , Hardin enough to back shoot him .Selman did this in public because he knew the badge would protect him and he wanted the fame. Only one worked.
I find him an interesting person, but highly romanticized. His use of alcohol could have been self medicating... Michael Bean surely increased Ringo's image. He and Val deserve Oscars... probably historically inaccurate but Super characterizations.
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They were always too departmental to be as clinical as they wanted to be.
No buddy kills 'em like that winged horse ridin' Kirk Douglas kills 'em, Lil Bullet.
Nope . That one went straight over my head
Apparently Johnny Ringo was a time traveler if you listened closely to this video.
He was released in may of 1978... I was 12 years old when he was released......
So this photo isn’t only misidentified as Doc Holliday, but now as Johnny Ringo?
This photo is now famous for NOT being Doc or JOHNNY RINGO 😳😱😱
it show doc, who was drinking buddy of ringo, drank at the oriental saloon.
why show a picture of an actor that played him in a movie instead of the man
the same reason they had chatgpt write the script and a voicebot create the video.. lazyness
6:49 If he was released when I was in high school, I surprised we never met then.
I wish someone would do a something on Dave Rudabaugh. He is the reason Earp met Holiday. He was in the Railroad Wars. He rode with Billy the Kid. He also a member of the Clantons in Arizona.
he must have been quite a Sprite fellow. Considering she's claiming he did these things at the age of over 120. Ringo was quite the centurion. I hope someone explains to the narrator the difference between the 1800s and the 20th century.
And I heard once he was chopped up in Mexico for being an outlaw
@@normanvest1470 he was playing poker in a bar in Parral, Chihuahua. A gunfight happened over the game. He shot and killed a man. He went outside to get his horse and the horse was gone. He went back into the bar, and the other bar patrons killed him. They chopped his head off with a machete. Then they put his head on a spike outside town warning other outlaws to stay out.
@@normanvest1470 Yep.
I remember Ringo he's still a live today with his friend faul mcartney.
I love the movie Tombstone it's my favorite movie and doubt that back in the day they were concerned about how a murder died and I know they were happy it was over
Can any write English anymore?
My guess is that coroner called it suicide to end revenge killing
I was just in Burnet Texas cool little town , I walked all around town center. Didn't know johnny Ringo walked the streets there .
Not as mythic as Little Georgie Paul: Now HE was a badass…
LOL!! 😂😂
Thanks for the content
Johnny Ringo was really a small time punk that was basically just a hanger-on in various gangs. His notoriety comes from the fact that he had a cool sounding name. If his last name was Smith or Jones we would never have heard of him.
Johnny: Don't any of you have the guts to play for Blood ?
Doc:. I'm your Huckleberry, That's just my Game
Johnny : Alright Lunger I'll send ya to Hell
Doc : SAY WHEN
Favorite Western of all Time By Far in my Top 5 in all Genres
"Why, Johnny Ringo, you like somebody just walked over your grave."
That’s actually Huckle bearer. The handles on a coffin were called huckles. Doc was telling him I’ll carry you to your grave.
Him saying Huckle bearer is an internet myth and not what was said, in the movie and script it was huckleberry. Regardless if you think it was supposed to be the latter because it's theorized to be more location/time appropriate.
@@lightblade543 I just changed it back , I guess I should have looked it up before I changed it the 1st time, I wondered why my family has been in the Mortuary Transportation business for 78yrs and I've never heard the term, except the net, lol I'm leaving it now, first choice is usually correct ,in my opinion Val Kilmers' Best Role of his Career and Kurt Russell
Apparently, Johnny Ringo witnessed the disco era according to the dates quoted. How can you possibly make such a mistake in the presentation? I mean, no one proof read the text?
Disco era? Thank God I didn't loose my boots back then!
Yes I remember the reports on TV back in 1980 on the night NEWS.
The first picture is Doc Holiday.
Not Doc Holliday, Tombstone Photographer Camillius Fly gave a random picture of a Tombstone resident to a reporter asking for Docs photo, in the late 1880's . The photo has been misidentified ever since as Doc.
@@johnmcmahon8513 Well, blow me, I didn't know that. I have had great interest in this subject since both of the films, Tombstone and Wyatt Earp.
Many thanks for the correct information.
Fascinating stuff
I've read where some think that Wyatt and Holiday found him and killed him.They very well could have and propped him up against the tree. I've actually heard to he was found in the fork of a tree as well
Well if you check out the history it says Doc and Wyatt was in Colorado when Johnny was killed. He was found with his pants down and the gun in his hand was not his. A lot of people really think that Doc and Wyatt killed him.
Never knew he was getting Burnet, Tx. That's where I am from and my family still lives there today. Very interesting incite
"Thus Johnny Ringo was released in May 1978..." REALLY?!?!?!? Hell!! No wonder his date of demise is unknown!!! They got Johnny livin in the wrong century dadgummit!!
He must be a Vampire
Amazing indeed!
Many thanks!
My dogs name is Ringo and people always ask if I’m a Beatles fan, I just grunt and say “tombstone” lol
Have you heard Lorne Greene's magnificent "spoken song" about the story of Ringo. Well worth listening to. Chills, and even more chills at the very end.
That's Awesome , I Have 2 Belgian Malinois I've Raised Since Pups Named Doc & Ringo ( Ringo Also Answers to J.R.) .
They Get On Quite A Bit Better than Their Name Sakes Did, Best Dogs I've Ever Had .
@@cherylmacvane8791 He & Pernell Roberts had awesome voices.
That was an excellent video. Very much appreciate your work
So nice of you
Interesting food for thought, anyway. But there are a couple of things that are not correct. First was the claim Ringo came from a large family of 5 children. That was not a large family in 1850, it was the average sized family. Second was more of an editing error, when just before and after the 7:00 mark of the video, she stated dates of 1978, 1979 and 1980, an obvious reading mistake by the narrator.
What else was missed in researching Ringo? Maybe nothing, but when you have the little things incorrect, it makes you wonder about the bigger picture.
Butchered Brocious pronunciation
The picture on the front of this is doc Holliday!
“I'm you're Huckleberry” One of the last things his ears ever heard 🤠
Thank you for your story of Johnny Ringo. It was very Interesting and informative 👍.
Glad you enjoyed it
I met with a history professor in college who was obsessed with Tombstone and the participants involved. He traveled the country talking to people who were still alive or relatives and he told me that after all his research he landed on the conclusion that Doc Holliday killed him over a woman but it wasn't a one on one gunfight like in the movie but rather Doc lay in wait and snuck up on him and killed him. How true that is I do not know 🤷♂️
This happened a lot
@@phataton7588 yeah gunfights in the old west were really nothing like you see in the movies lol. Only one I can really think of was Wild Bill and David Tate (I could be wrong on that name) but they did have a gunfight that would be like in the movies but none of this at the stroke on noon and take 10 paces stuff lol
Last I’ve heard is a letter was found from Wyatt to his wife. Wyatt saying he shot him from a ridge nearby and hit him in the head by a miracle, because he wouldn’t have been able to take him in a straightforward draw.
I thought it was to save Wyatt because he knew Wyatt as good as he was could not go against Ringo becaue Ringo did not play fair Ringo would shoot a man in the back and not think twice now if Ringo made a pass at Big Nose Kate I an see Doc getting revenge for that too! Bu the movie was not that far off he was afraid Ringo woulddouble cross and kill Wyatt Doc had one true friend in the world and it was Wyatt Earp
@@aprilgosa5779 I've heard that one also. Like I said that was just his theory after studying it for a long time but doesn't mean he was right. There is credence though to the claims that Doc and Ringo had problems over Kate so idk 🤷♂️. I'm just settled that it was Doc who killed Ringo and not Wyatt as Wyatt as he said in his book but that's just my opinion 🤷♂️
"Look darlin, it's Johnny Ringo...should I hate 'em?"
I am going to nit-pick. The reader states several time 19xx instead of 18xx. Several other times the reader makes statements that are not of the text and are way off. Not a good quality historical video. Please proof read your content.
The age of the internet, this is one of my biggest pet peeves in our modern version of information consumption
I don't think Ringo would have shot himself if you were to ask him are you going to commit suicide he would say are you effing crazy
So Doc Holliday got released when I was in grade school? 🤣
Video could've standed a little more editing lol...
Doc Holiday would say.." I'm Your HuckelBerry".....
My name is Ringo. I was named after Johnny Ringo by my father. I got to live and work in Tombstone for two months. I met the town historian, Ben Trawick who literally wrote the book on Ringo. He told me Ringo murdered two people and never got into a gunfight. I guess we'll never really know.
Oh, I thought you were named after Ringo the drummer! Nice try!
@DontLookBack wrong answer. I was named after John Peter's Ringo of Tombstone fame. You see, I'm 67 years old and couldn't possibly be named after Richard Starkey the Beatle. He hadn't assumed the nickname Ringo at that time. Nice try though.
Oh yeah you got to live there? That's nice. It happens to be free country. Not to take away your experience but that was 100 years afterward.
@stevew4007 yeah,it's in the past but it was still a cool experience to see the places where it all happened.
Guy could flip and spin his revolver around like the Dickens.
He was just as skilled with the drumsticks.
Can't believe this guy was alive in 1980.
He wasn't just the author.
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This is crazy. I am a James, know a lot of the history, and never heard this. Wow thanks for posting
james who and please dont say jesse cause no one is believing that
Wrong picture, again , even Tombstone has it wrong too.
So can you please show me the real johnny Ringo picture?
@@davidellis4416 I have it and will upload it soon
Great video ❤
Thanks for the visit
Doc holiday was always very good with his hands,or slight of hand,dealing cards,hiding cards and could always out drawn the drunken Ringo,there fore Holiday killed Ringo fair and square and there is evidence given by relatives of Ringo that he knew Doc was faster which made him depressed...........
Prove it,it has to be in writing,not somebody's word.You might ask the guy that own's the Magazine,"True West",now there's a person that can tell you,fact or fiction,HIS WORD IS LAW WHEN IT COMES TO WESTERN HISTORY,COWBOY HISTORY,LAW ENFORCMENT BACK FROM 1800-1950.
Whoever got the drop first usually won in gunplay, doc and Ringo were evenly match in a honest fight Ringo would probably drop the doc.
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The vampire J. Ringo still rides to this day. From cowboy to batboy...
I'm so bummed out that I didn't meet Johny Ringo, I was in the Arizona territory in 1978. I bet Johnny rode a cherry red camaro in those days.....
had to be an old panhead Harley
Everyone just going to ignore his time traveling ability?
I'm your huckleberry.
I'm your Huckleberry, Doc Holiday never said that phase,only Hollywood did.FACT
He was also the drummer of the Beatles in the 1960s and starred in the film Rango in the the 000's but again,they got his name wrong.😂
I would like to hear more about the chronically incontinent gunfighter called JOHNNY WEEO.
Hey Billy ,don't be a hero ..
But with most things Old West, so is the Ruma.
I’m your Huckleberry….. but you’re no Daisy.
Lorne Greene sang a song about him called Ringo. 🎶
He sang it but didn't write it. Song written by Don Robertson and Hal Blair.
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Oh thank you, I'll correct my post.
Val Kilmer killed Johnny Ringo... I witnessed it.
He killed him good from what I seen.
Thanks for the chuckle 😆 😄 🤣 😀
If the thumbnail is what he actually looked like then wow, Tombstone nailed their casting.
I prefer to imagine that Doc Holiday was his huckle bearer.
Yep an actual Arizona history research team went to Ringos final resting spot and found that a single bullet had gone through Ringos temple. If you go to Turkey Creek the land owner has a gate up that you may go through and see Ringos grave so as long you take nothing and close the gate when you come n go. Turkey Creek also is a 45 minute drive do north east of Tombstone
I live 20 minutes from Turkey Creek and had no idea he's buried there! I'll have to go see it this weekend.
I've made trek to Ringos grave. It's as advertised. Well worth the trip. There's another grave and forked tree about 50 feet his marker. It's a very curious site. Go and visit. It's all fenced off now-a-days.
John Wesley Hardin had something in his eyes. Intelligence and Evil are a deadly combination 🙏🏻
No doubt!!!
Seen his name carved in a jailhouse wall. Goldswaithe texas. The old jail is a tourist attraction now.
@@jimmyphillips4333 Very Kool, I’ll definitely check that out next time I’m in Texas. Ty🙏🏻
right...just ask Dylan!
He did join the who do war when he was around 18 to 19 years old. As he was around 5 years younger than later similar to doc Holliday's age.
Doc Holliday.
It's not even DOC HOLLIDAY . True West Magazine and Arizona Historical Society stated that he is an Italian American Tombstone resident , mistaken for DOC years ago. Camillius Fly took the photograph at his studio. Bob Bell can confirm this information.
No mention of the fight at the OK corral. I wonder why. Ringo wasn't there, but it was a part of the story.
most of the story he spent in jail waiting to be bonded out.
Thank you for the reading lesson
You are so welcome