@@hashfruitdude nobles back then literally didn't do jack shit maybe the women did alot of sewing and embroidery and lace making which is extremely hard to do but the working class literally built their castles cleaned the castles which by the way everything had to be done by hand with shit soap and no protective anything... Not to mention the farmers the minors the people who worked with extremely deadly stuff so the rich could have a yellow or green or purple dress
@@goreandhoodies3626 depends on which era we're talking about. Nobles, were the dedicated warrior caste of medieval Europe at their inception, hence why they were considered noble. Every knight was a noble, and they could only maintain the title of noble by continuing to fight for their lord. Later on, though, they started to perform their duties less and ask for more, effectively just becoming lords who didn't actually contribute anything. Also, Robin hood was about the king and his tax collectors, not the nobles.
A few other things missing, to my knowledge: Robin Hood himself wasn't exactly poor when he started doing his vigilante stuff. And one of the reasons he started doing this was because the actual King was busy being part of a crusade (and, I think, even got captured) and people taking over for him were ungodly corrupt.
I mean Tobin Hood most likely wasn't one person, but rather a collection of stories of a bumch of different people from different parts of England from different times
That was a pretty late addition to the stories by playwrights to be fair, and yes king Richard was captured (by Austria) during the crusade, which is why king Richard and prince John show up so often in later stories for a bigger bad guy in the stories and a deus ex machina if they decided to have richard come back near the end I'm not sure I like the Robin Hood as disgraced noble angle very much, it's kinda just there because audiences liked noble heroes at the time, but it definitely does make the original post even dumber lol
@@lintree I think I like the disgraced noble Robin Hood because of what it implies. Noble who sees the lower classes as beneath him falls from grace, realizes that he wasn't inherently better and he was just lucky and then decides to help others who weren't lucky? Hell yeah!
Do rich people not realize the insane amount of skill needed to steal from them without getting caught? Cuz it sure as hell is a lot harder than inheriting it from your parents
@@fennelcomeaux9663 Why what? Why were they upset? I don't know. Why was the monster a victim? His creator forced life into him and immediately abandoned him.
@@fennelcomeaux9663 The Daily Mail (right-wing UK newspaper) tried to make a story about kids in school being taught that Frankenstein's monster was a victim in the story, and they were painting this as a "soft" and "woke" interpretation of the book. When it is, in fact, actually the explicit message of the book and has been read and interpreted that way for over 200 years.
@@erraticonteuse Oh my god, it's worse than I thought. I figured it was some classic piss on the poor tumblr bullshit but no. This was published, in a newspaper?
@@Cybercerialdestroyermurder band and a response should be proportional maybe? The guy being threatened into taking a bribe is very different to those making the threat.
True, but I’m pretty sure the “only steal from the rich” thing has been a part of his lore for even longer than the “give to the poor” part so I don’t think he was robbing anyone for very long, if at all
You’re right it _does_ demotivate people to succeed when they can be exploited by a buncha jackasses who steal the fruits of their labor to succeed off of doing nothing while the people who actually put in the hard work are given nothing for it 😊
@@bigendaliverthey're saying how it's demotivating to see rich people succeed off of the backs of people who work harder than them. reading. 🤯comprehension. 🤯
The realities of the story of robin hood are vastly more complex and interesting. The "steal from the rich and give to the poor" shtick was something he did in later stories. Before that he literally robbed everyone. This is probably due to the fact that he was more then likely based on three different guys named robin who were criminals in Nottingham for over the course of a century or so.
It's been a while, but wasn't he stealing the taxes back from King John after he keot raising the to the point the people couldn't afford the taxes anymore?
Yes. Robin Hood, in most versions of the story save some of the older ones, is stealing from *the Government* who was stealing from the people through overtaxation. As a side note, Scrooge didn’t believe in personal Charity because his taxes were funding poor houses and other social programs. In other words, Scrooge was a Socialist and was convinced to partake in the Right-Wing past time of *Personal Charity.*
@@MouldMadeMind “socialism is whatever I need it to be in order to feel better about myself.” As Karl Marx said, “workers of the world unite to create straw-man arguments and make up whatever needs to be made up.” Yes, Socialism is, in fact, when a Government taxes its wealthier citizens in order to give aid to poorer citizens. Social Welfare programs are the bedrock of *every single socialist regime ever.* Also, my own comment is not showing up for me in this thread. Is that just a glitch in my app, or…?
@@MouldMadeMind "Workers of the world unite so we can redistribute wealth into a centralized power that will redistribute everything fairly." That's taxes. That's what taxes are. (EDIT: obviously they never redistribute it fairly, otherwise socialism would have worked once)
@@druhu4590that's not what Marx said though. He didn't advocate for centralized power distributing wealth. The entire point of socialism was that it's a democratic system where people collectively choose how to distribute wealth and resources, which is not centralized. It actually is as far as possible from centralization. The reason it hasn't worked is because it hasn't been tried.
Wait till you find out how bad the average reading comprehension is in America It's below an eighth grade level. Half of the people you interact with online today will read your comments with less literacy than an 8th grader
While kind of true I'd still argue social equality is a LOT better today. I may never have even 0.1% of Bezos' wealth but I also won't be executed for talking to someone of a higher class than me, so I'll definitely take today over feudal England That said; eat the rich♡
I get what the op tried to say. Usually Robin Hood was not emphasized on "steal from rich people who got their wealth by exploiting other people, give money to those other people". Instead, many focus on simple "steal from rich, give to poor". In this case nobody cares wether those rich got their wealth by honestly working their way up or by exploiting. *This* is where the problem lies. Many people just miss the nuances that are so needed in those types of stories
Too be fair, being rich could be considered inherently corrupt. If you're just sitting on bunches of money while others are struggling is questionable. Worked hard or not, why are people allowed to accumulate over saturating amounts of wealth????? The 1% being the 1% really screws things up financially for everyone else.
@@fredericksaxton9782 how much money do you need to be considered rich? is having more money then someone else makes you rich? If so, then by how much ?
I mean yeah. Peter Pan just breaks in, steals the kids with bribes, and then takes them somewhere else without their parents knowing, and then when they want to go back, he refuses. So understandable, at least Peter has more of a reason then Robin Hood
I thought you were talking about Peter Parker at first and was like "Terrible role model? The dude's Spider-Man, for fuck's sake!" Like, I'm not even joking, my mind registered the Pan as Parker
@@MrNote-lz7lhIt's failing because tax money goes to fund weapons we don't need or to pay aid to some petty little regime instead of helping our people during a hurricane
Nah become the rich wtf society do you guys want to live in 😭 one where everyone is poor except the king or one where it’s possible to become rich on your own merits. It would be a dictators best interest for private citizens to not have a lot of money or power so you are basically advocating for your own enslavement bro.
The one thing people get wrong is actually King John was a good guy and probably worked with Robin Hood, it was his mother that was taxing people to pay of Richard's randsom because Richard started fights and didn't have the fortitude to fight to the death. His mother said to John's face that she didn't love him.
Robin Hood WAS a terrible role model because wealth=power, and pissing off the powerful is a real quick way to invite some pretty gnarly consequences on yourself. No, the "right" way to do things is to steal from the poor. The poorer and weaker the mark, the less likely you are to catch any significant backlash. And sure, they may not have a lot to give, but it's easy to work around that as long as you do two things. 1: make sure to take these poor schmucks for EVERYTHING they have. I'm talkin', you wanna put these dirty poors in crippling debt (more than they already are likely in) to the point that they're skipping meals to try to make the numbers work. And then 2: steal from more people... sorry, "people". What the unwashed masses lack in financial stability they more than make up for in numbers. Steal from as many of them as possible and you'll be making WAY more than you ever could stealing from just one rich person. *There was a bit where I was gonna compare the weak but numerous poor people to weak but numerous prey animals in nature, but I had to cut it out because it was getting too realistically close to those actual "sigma grindset" Podcaster douchebags.
The stories even make it clear that Robin Hood doesn't hate rich people, but he has no respect for greedy landlords and bloodsucking clergy. He befriends one knight, Sir Richard of the Lea, who was in debt to the Church, and gave him the money to save his estate - and had a sanctuary castle for life for him and his men to run when they were in danger.
Yeah like.. BIIGGG difference between an upper-middle class family who can live comfortably and billionaires and governments who exploit workers and the poor for their own gain
There is nothing wrong with being rich as long as you give what you can while you're alive!!! Don't put yourself out of business but also don't be a dragon.
Well they work like 80 hours a week for years or decades. But yes. Working hard by itself is worthless. You must provide value to people to receive value in kind and rich people provides value to millions. I can think of little harder than going to antarctica and digging pits with a spoon. But it doesn't provide value to anyone so you won't get anything for it.
@@MrNote-lz7lh I wish I lived in whatever world you live in where most rich people actually worked for it instead of being born into wealth or marrying into it.
no. Robinhood steals from rich corrupt merchants and nobles and gives too the poor. and depending on the story interpretation he actively avoids robbing decent folk.
Devil's Advocate here: The original argument isn't that what Robin Hood was doing in the original context was morally incorrect, it's that showing children (who do not understand the original context) that you can simply steal from people and be praised for it is a bad idea.
Ebenezer Scrooge at least in the original work wasn't actually that bad of a guy, his business and pay was fair. The point of the original work was, that he didn't follow "christly" values to give more than he must to his peers.
Most people in feudal England were peasants and Serfs, most of them lived in poverty and worked very hard to make a minority of aristocrats very rich. Part of the way they got that wealth was through exorbitant taxes that caused more than a few violent uprisings when people could no longer afford them. The taxes were very much apart of the exploitation because they were forced to work and live on land that they didn’t own and taxes were extra payment for that “right”.
Eh, not alllll rich people. Definitely feudal Lords, but, like, Gabe Newell is pretty cool. Sometimes fortune CAN come from hard work. And luck. It's a lot more difficult now than it used to be, and I think that's incredibly unfair. I also think that completely denying the fact that someone can become wealthy through hard work (or even fortunate, like this old guy I work with who literally built his house from the ground up in the 70's, and probably isn't traditionally rich but he's got a house and I don't) pinch the situation in black and white. Like, just because it's a WAYYYY more expensive and difficult to build a house now, that doesn't mean that someone who built their house in the 70s didn't put in that hard work y'know?
If you go off of the assumption that “Rich” means anywhere above the poverty line or a business owner of any kind, then yeah, terrible role model. But modern Robin Hood almost exclusively stole money already stolen via over taxation, so not exactly earned through hard work
Don’t forget the fact that the King was raising money to save his brother (the actual King) from prison, because of a mistake he made during the Crusades
It's not just the nobility in the past. Who actually thinks that people like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos actually worked hard for the money they have, and thus deserve every penny, rather than had and still have other people work FOR them, meaning, instead of them. If you work for someone, you don't work for yourself. You work so someone else can get rich out of your work, and what you get in return is the smallest cut they can get away with giving you. If they could feasably get you to work for them for free 18 hours a day, and not have to fear retribution, you can bet they'd do it no hesitation.
Robin Hood was robbing from nobility but beyond that he was hunting in the royal forests and giving away the prizes that were considered to be owned by the king who had denied the poor the right to do so while taxing them heavily. While the ownership of the forest was arguably a matter of preservation to maintain the wildlife and forest which could easily become over hunted and over forested, to a lot of people it was seen just that the king was being greedy as him and his friends were allowed to hunt them themselves.
He would have had a point, IF Robin Hood was stealing from anybody he wanted. Playing Bowser Revolution each night and waiting for it to give more money to you despite being in last place is a horrible message. But he was stealing from NOBILITY - not the rich - to give to the WORKING CLASS. He distributed money to those who most deserved it from those who deserved it the least. I understand their confusion. Heart was in the right place. They were just wrong.
Why did no one in the post mention that he GIVES THE MONEY HE STOLE TO THE POOR???? He doesn’t use it for himself, he gives it to people who need it. That’s why he’s considered a HERO
I worked with a guy who said that CEOs deserved to be the highest paid employees, because they worked harder than anyone else in a company and that a company could still run even without most of its employees, but could never run without a CEO. He also had delusions that if he worked hard, at his bottom tier factory job, that after just a few years he would be the CEO.
I love how people cry and scream "get a job if you want money! No one wants to work!!" I literally just want a job that pays enough for rent, utilities, and food. AND that i dont get treated like an animal at. Insane
To be completely fair on the last part the ghost of Christmas present was seen to stop 2 people from fighting by pouring incense on them. Scrooge was literally chased by the grim reaper on horse back even though that whole time Christmas present could've just made him nice.
Another thing that is hugely important here again, is that rich and well off are different. Robin Hood didn't steal from upper middle class families, but from people who hoarded wealth for the sake of wealth.
That doesnt refute the point that its a shit role model for little kids. Little kids sre going to have to no context behind why some theft would be justified and other theft wouldnt be.
I wouldn’t say ALL rich people got their wealth by exploiting the poor. It’s just the ones that got their wealth via hard work are sadly the rare exception when it comes to rich people and not the rule.
Robin hood usually didn’t just steal from nobles he just helped the poor like in the story of the better knight “I think that’s what it’s called” a knight got loan sharked by the local abbot so Robin Hood gives him a loan to repay it and when the abbot comes he takes the money back. (Funnily enough the knight needed the gold to pay ransom for his son 400 pounds was it but the story makes note that the abbots coffers, after the knight had repaid the loan, had 800 and more in them implying that he was also behind the kidnapping) anyways the knight grows rich and comes to repay his loan which Robin forgives and does not take repayment claiming that “their lady has already repaid his loan” (the abbot was of st. Mary’s church)
Usually worked harder??? Bro thinks nobility was working harder than the working class???
lol .. yea.. I realized as a kid that the people he was stealing from sucked
@@hashfruitdude nobles back then literally didn't do jack shit maybe the women did alot of sewing and embroidery and lace making which is extremely hard to do but the working class literally built their castles cleaned the castles which by the way everything had to be done by hand with shit soap and no protective anything... Not to mention the farmers the minors the people who worked with extremely deadly stuff so the rich could have a yellow or green or purple dress
@@goreandhoodies3626 depends on which era we're talking about. Nobles, were the dedicated warrior caste of medieval Europe at their inception, hence why they were considered noble. Every knight was a noble, and they could only maintain the title of noble by continuing to fight for their lord. Later on, though, they started to perform their duties less and ask for more, effectively just becoming lords who didn't actually contribute anything. Also, Robin hood was about the king and his tax collectors, not the nobles.
@@goreandhoodies3626 yes! the rich back then were 10000x worse than they are now. I seriously don't get the original posts point 😂
Even if that was the case, it would still be a net positive because poor people need the money more, so it's still a good role model
A few other things missing, to my knowledge: Robin Hood himself wasn't exactly poor when he started doing his vigilante stuff. And one of the reasons he started doing this was because the actual King was busy being part of a crusade (and, I think, even got captured) and people taking over for him were ungodly corrupt.
That depends, the king being away in a crusade was a later addition.
I mean Tobin Hood most likely wasn't one person, but rather a collection of stories of a bumch of different people from different parts of England from different times
That was a pretty late addition to the stories by playwrights to be fair, and yes king Richard was captured (by Austria) during the crusade, which is why king Richard and prince John show up so often in later stories for a bigger bad guy in the stories and a deus ex machina if they decided to have richard come back near the end
I'm not sure I like the Robin Hood as disgraced noble angle very much, it's kinda just there because audiences liked noble heroes at the time, but it definitely does make the original post even dumber lol
He basically was the batman of his time.
@@lintree I think I like the disgraced noble Robin Hood because of what it implies. Noble who sees the lower classes as beneath him falls from grace, realizes that he wasn't inherently better and he was just lucky and then decides to help others who weren't lucky? Hell yeah!
"you are stealing from people (illegal)" is such a fuvkin hilarious line
Yeah, you just got to do the legal stealing called capitalism!
Fallout skill check
Same vibes as “people have done much worse (holocaust)”
"Only rich can steal (legally)", or some shit like that. I wonder, what's considered a legal way of robbing in his opinion...
@@Astrosyrup174 I IMMEDIATELY THIUGHT THAT
Do rich people not realize the insane amount of skill needed to steal from them without getting caught? Cuz it sure as hell is a lot harder than inheriting it from your parents
Considering they're rich people I think they're well acquainted with stealing
Yeahhhh that lost me at 'worked hard for their wealth'... like lmaooo no they absolutely did not
@@ohno6919 hey! They worked hard to be born into a wealthy family that exploits the poor! /j
Oh come on! Everyone knows signing in laws that disproportionately tax the working classes takes a lot of energy!
Except alot of people have worked hard for their wealth. Its just the REALLY famous and rish didn't. I bet you like some rich people but don't know.
@@cosygoose1813 When people think rich nowadays, they usually think the REALLY rich
Scrooge Mcduck
he is robbin in the hood, so name fits. oh, and he wears a hood while being named robin sometimes I guess
Or maybe he is (Get this) ROBBING in the hood.
@@KeyboardTarantula Or perhaps he is the Robing Hood. A nickname that eventually became a name.
I interpreted that as "he always wears a hood and is sometimes named Robin" which I'm not sure was intentional but did get a laugh out of me
@@rubenvanderark4960 I think spoiling my intentions would ruin the fun of interpretation.
@@KeyboardTarantula I agree, do not tell me
Reminds me of the post upset that people considered Frankenstein's Monster a victim
Wait what? Why?
@@fennelcomeaux9663 Why what?
Why were they upset? I don't know.
Why was the monster a victim? His creator forced life into him and immediately abandoned him.
@@buttonsfan I was asking for the first one. Good to know you're not sure either
@@fennelcomeaux9663 The Daily Mail (right-wing UK newspaper) tried to make a story about kids in school being taught that Frankenstein's monster was a victim in the story, and they were painting this as a "soft" and "woke" interpretation of the book. When it is, in fact, actually the explicit message of the book and has been read and interpreted that way for over 200 years.
@@erraticonteuse Oh my god, it's worse than I thought. I figured it was some classic piss on the poor tumblr bullshit but no. This was published, in a newspaper?
To be fair in the earlier robin hood stories he usually just kills people and takes their belongings.
I still don’t see the problem
@@Cybercerialdestroyermurder band and a response should be proportional maybe?
The guy being threatened into taking a bribe is very different to those making the threat.
True, but I’m pretty sure the “only steal from the rich” thing has been a part of his lore for even longer than the “give to the poor” part so I don’t think he was robbing anyone for very long, if at all
@@elliee884 tbh most bandits didn't live very long.
(illegal)
You’re right it _does_ demotivate people to succeed when they can be exploited by a buncha jackasses who steal the fruits of their labor to succeed off of doing nothing while the people who actually put in the hard work are given nothing for it 😊
did you watch past 10 seconds or did your braincells burn buddy
You see, its a joke about how rich people do exactly that
@@bigendaliverI did watch past 10 seconds, that was someone else talking about rich people not the op
@@bigendaliverDid you miss the sarcasm flying over your head?
Buddy?
@@bigendaliverthey're saying how it's demotivating to see rich people succeed off of the backs of people who work harder than them. reading. 🤯comprehension. 🤯
The realities of the story of robin hood are vastly more complex and interesting. The "steal from the rich and give to the poor" shtick was something he did in later stories. Before that he literally robbed everyone.
This is probably due to the fact that he was more then likely based on three different guys named robin who were criminals in Nottingham for over the course of a century or so.
It's been a while, but wasn't he stealing the taxes back from King John after he keot raising the to the point the people couldn't afford the taxes anymore?
Yes. Robin Hood, in most versions of the story save some of the older ones, is stealing from *the Government* who was stealing from the people through overtaxation.
As a side note, Scrooge didn’t believe in personal Charity because his taxes were funding poor houses and other social programs. In other words, Scrooge was a Socialist and was convinced to partake in the Right-Wing past time of *Personal Charity.*
@@wyatttyson7737 "socialism is when you pay taxes"
As karl marx always said: "workers of the world unite, to pay your taxes"
@@MouldMadeMind “socialism is whatever I need it to be in order to feel better about myself.”
As Karl Marx said, “workers of the world unite to create straw-man arguments and make up whatever needs to be made up.”
Yes, Socialism is, in fact, when a Government taxes its wealthier citizens in order to give aid to poorer citizens. Social Welfare programs are the bedrock of *every single socialist regime ever.*
Also, my own comment is not showing up for me in this thread. Is that just a glitch in my app, or…?
@@MouldMadeMind
"Workers of the world unite so we can redistribute wealth into a centralized power that will redistribute everything fairly."
That's taxes. That's what taxes are.
(EDIT: obviously they never redistribute it fairly, otherwise socialism would have worked once)
@@druhu4590that's not what Marx said though. He didn't advocate for centralized power distributing wealth. The entire point of socialism was that it's a democratic system where people collectively choose how to distribute wealth and resources, which is not centralized. It actually is as far as possible from centralization. The reason it hasn't worked is because it hasn't been tried.
What's happened to media literacy??!!
Wait till you find out how bad the average reading comprehension is in America
It's below an eighth grade level. Half of the people you interact with online today will read your comments with less literacy than an 8th grader
I’m honestly not all that surprised, after all we all know that tumblr pisses on the poor
Republicans
This is tumblr, do you think anyone has media literacy there?
@@LuisLopez-iw5zx they probably do unless it involves a piece of media you like, then they don't. I'm assuming that's how you operate
I am a member of the socialist undead.
im glad you rose from your grave we need you now more than ever
something in the phrasing of “you are stealing from people (illegal)” almost convinced me the first post was a joke
The modern day Robin Hood is basically those people who make pirating sites.
The wealth inequality is worse today than it was back then.
The opportunities available to regular people today are greater than back then
@@zacvh_But the opportunities are still far from good
Yes, but then social classes had more weight, used to be blood and now it's mostly just wealth.
While kind of true I'd still argue social equality is a LOT better today. I may never have even 0.1% of Bezos' wealth but I also won't be executed for talking to someone of a higher class than me, so I'll definitely take today over feudal England
That said; eat the rich♡
@@Pulpo_Pol Considering how almost every rich person came from people who were rich... the more things change the more they stay the same.
I get what the op tried to say. Usually Robin Hood was not emphasized on "steal from rich people who got their wealth by exploiting other people, give money to those other people". Instead, many focus on simple "steal from rich, give to poor". In this case nobody cares wether those rich got their wealth by honestly working their way up or by exploiting. *This* is where the problem lies. Many people just miss the nuances that are so needed in those types of stories
Too be fair, being rich could be considered inherently corrupt. If you're just sitting on bunches of money while others are struggling is questionable. Worked hard or not, why are people allowed to accumulate over saturating amounts of wealth????? The 1% being the 1% really screws things up financially for everyone else.
Nuance these nuts
@@fredericksaxton9782 how much money do you need to be considered rich? is having more money then someone else makes you rich? If so, then by how much ?
The people he stole from are the ones who got things other people worked for.
For some reason I confused Robin Hood with Peter Pan and was like "but... he's right? the kid is a terrible role model!"
I mean yeah.
Peter Pan just breaks in, steals the kids with bribes, and then takes them somewhere else without their parents knowing, and then when they want to go back, he refuses.
So understandable, at least Peter has more of a reason then Robin Hood
I thought you were talking about Peter Parker at first and was like "Terrible role model? The dude's Spider-Man, for fuck's sake!"
Like, I'm not even joking, my mind registered the Pan as Parker
The whole point of robin hood is that they didn't work hard for their wealth
Okay I was thinking it was just going to be that first person
Robin Hood isn’t about stealing from the rich at all. It’s about tax evasion, and that is a wonderful thing to teach children
No wonder why America infrastructure is failing.
@@MrNote-lz7lhIt's failing because tax money goes to fund weapons we don't need or to pay aid to some petty little regime instead of helping our people during a hurricane
Robin Hood didn't steal from "the rich" he stole from the king and his men, who were taxing the people into starvation.
Do you think the feudal lords were poor or something?
My guy, who do you think was rich back then?
Who is the rich?
No fucking way we got going George the third on tumblr😭😭😍
Scrooge created one (1) job, and he'd have asked Bob Cratchit to pay _him_ for it if he could.
moral of the story: eat the rich
🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
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Nah become the rich wtf society do you guys want to live in 😭 one where everyone is poor except the king or one where it’s possible to become rich on your own merits. It would be a dictators best interest for private citizens to not have a lot of money or power so you are basically advocating for your own enslavement bro.
@@zacvh_ idk man i just don't want the 1% to hoard all of the wealth and power
@@zacvh_bro forgot about the middle class
That word "usually" is doing some heavy f*cking lifting, innit
The one thing people get wrong is actually King John was a good guy and probably worked with Robin Hood, it was his mother that was taxing people to pay of Richard's randsom because Richard started fights and didn't have the fortitude to fight to the death.
His mother said to John's face that she didn't love him.
I thought this was about Peter Pan and thought, "i mean yeah, he's a fae creature"
"worked harder"
Sir...the poorer class is called the "working class" for a reason
Robin Hood WAS a terrible role model because wealth=power, and pissing off the powerful is a real quick way to invite some pretty gnarly consequences on yourself.
No, the "right" way to do things is to steal from the poor. The poorer and weaker the mark, the less likely you are to catch any significant backlash. And sure, they may not have a lot to give, but it's easy to work around that as long as you do two things. 1: make sure to take these poor schmucks for EVERYTHING they have. I'm talkin', you wanna put these dirty poors in crippling debt (more than they already are likely in) to the point that they're skipping meals to try to make the numbers work. And then 2: steal from more people... sorry, "people". What the unwashed masses lack in financial stability they more than make up for in numbers. Steal from as many of them as possible and you'll be making WAY more than you ever could stealing from just one rich person.
*There was a bit where I was gonna compare the weak but numerous poor people to weak but numerous prey animals in nature, but I had to cut it out because it was getting too realistically close to those actual "sigma grindset" Podcaster douchebags.
The stories even make it clear that Robin Hood doesn't hate rich people, but he has no respect for greedy landlords and bloodsucking clergy. He befriends one knight, Sir Richard of the Lea, who was in debt to the Church, and gave him the money to save his estate - and had a sanctuary castle for life for him and his men to run when they were in danger.
Actually at this point is practically a tradition thatb some libertarian randroid will post their "Hot take" of Scrooge's tale every Christmas
Tumblr is not beating the piss poor media literacy skills allegations
Yeah like.. BIIGGG difference between an upper-middle class family who can live comfortably and billionaires and governments who exploit workers and the poor for their own gain
There is nothing wrong with being rich as long as you give what you can while you're alive!!! Don't put yourself out of business but also don't be a dragon.
Do you realize that rich people not hoarding and actually spending will cause huge inflation?
Read "worked hard" as "born wealthy"
'You are stealing from people (illegal) and those people (usually) worked hard to get their wealth.' Fuckin... okay Prince John, if you say so.
That's the thing, the people Robin Hood stole from didn't work for a single penny of their fortunes.
Saying rich people worked hard to earn their wealth is crazy.
Well they work like 80 hours a week for years or decades. But yes. Working hard by itself is worthless. You must provide value to people to receive value in kind and rich people provides value to millions. I can think of little harder than going to antarctica and digging pits with a spoon. But it doesn't provide value to anyone so you won't get anything for it.
@@MrNote-lz7lh I wish I lived in whatever world you live in where most rich people actually worked for it instead of being born into wealth or marrying into it.
no. Robinhood steals from rich corrupt merchants and nobles and gives too the poor. and depending on the story interpretation he actively avoids robbing decent folk.
HOW DO YOU MANAGE TO MISUNDERSTAND ROBIN HOOD??
Devil's Advocate here:
The original argument isn't that what Robin Hood was doing in the original context was morally incorrect, it's that showing children (who do not understand the original context) that you can simply steal from people and be praised for it is a bad idea.
Um... Robin Hood wasn't stealing from the rich, he was stealing from the tax man.
He was a walking, talking, bow-shooting tax refund
Ebenezer Scrooge at least in the original work wasn't actually that bad of a guy, his business and pay was fair.
The point of the original work was, that he didn't follow "christly" values to give more than he must to his peers.
Most people in feudal England were peasants and Serfs, most of them lived in poverty and worked very hard to make a minority of aristocrats very rich. Part of the way they got that wealth was through exorbitant taxes that caused more than a few violent uprisings when people could no longer afford them. The taxes were very much apart of the exploitation because they were forced to work and live on land that they didn’t own and taxes were extra payment for that “right”.
Eh, not alllll rich people. Definitely feudal Lords, but, like, Gabe Newell is pretty cool. Sometimes fortune CAN come from hard work. And luck. It's a lot more difficult now than it used to be, and I think that's incredibly unfair. I also think that completely denying the fact that someone can become wealthy through hard work (or even fortunate, like this old guy I work with who literally built his house from the ground up in the 70's, and probably isn't traditionally rich but he's got a house and I don't) pinch the situation in black and white. Like, just because it's a WAYYYY more expensive and difficult to build a house now, that doesn't mean that someone who built their house in the 70s didn't put in that hard work y'know?
Worked hard? More like accumulated wealth and being born to the rish family bruh
He wasn’t meant to be a role model for kids… he was meant to be a cool story for adults in medieval Europe.
If you go off of the assumption that “Rich” means anywhere above the poverty line or a business owner of any kind, then yeah, terrible role model. But modern Robin Hood almost exclusively stole money already stolen via over taxation, so not exactly earned through hard work
Don’t forget the fact that the King was raising money to save his brother (the actual King) from prison, because of a mistake he made during the Crusades
This is like that thing where someone was talking about how Frankenstein's monster was misunderstood when that was literally the point of the story
You don't have to agree with the author if the story is dumb. No sympathy for murders.
Does no one realize that Robin Hood isn't some kind of lefty icon and actively fought against higher taxes?
I wanted to scream at the first part of this short, but it almost calmed me down at the end. Yes, I still have a primal urge to scream
That's not all rich people...both sides here are just blind
@@pandapruitt2542 while you are right, alot of the elite did do some shady stuff
It's not just the nobility in the past. Who actually thinks that people like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos actually worked hard for the money they have, and thus deserve every penny, rather than had and still have other people work FOR them, meaning, instead of them.
If you work for someone, you don't work for yourself. You work so someone else can get rich out of your work, and what you get in return is the smallest cut they can get away with giving you. If they could feasably get you to work for them for free 18 hours a day, and not have to fear retribution, you can bet they'd do it no hesitation.
"No-one has ever become rich through charity and goodwill"
worked hard to get their peasants to work harder and then to take half their money
they're called the working class for a reason. They work the hardest per dollar.
These rich folks were feudal lords. The only work they've ever done is with the sword.
Robin Hood was robbing from nobility but beyond that he was hunting in the royal forests and giving away the prizes that were considered to be owned by the king who had denied the poor the right to do so while taxing them heavily. While the ownership of the forest was arguably a matter of preservation to maintain the wildlife and forest which could easily become over hunted and over forested, to a lot of people it was seen just that the king was being greedy as him and his friends were allowed to hunt them themselves.
this is actually what christian private/home school curriculum (ACE pace) says lol
He would have had a point, IF Robin Hood was stealing from anybody he wanted.
Playing Bowser Revolution each night and waiting for it to give more money to you despite being in last place is a horrible message.
But he was stealing from NOBILITY - not the rich - to give to the WORKING CLASS. He distributed money to those who most deserved it from those who deserved it the least.
I understand their confusion. Heart was in the right place.
They were just wrong.
Guessing they just fell for the lies of billionaire dickheads.
Yeah that one guy was playing some weak D for capitalism there. The first time a rich man sweats more than a poor man hell will freeze over.
Iunno, I imagine you sweat pretty heavily in those expensive saunas.
“All rich people to this very day” depends on how you decide who is rich but that’s just untrue by most definitions
Didn't know feudal England had access to tumblr
Ah yes, they watched the disney movie and thought they watched a documentary
Why did no one in the post mention that he GIVES THE MONEY HE STOLE TO THE POOR???? He doesn’t use it for himself, he gives it to people who need it. That’s why he’s considered a HERO
I worked with a guy who said that CEOs deserved to be the highest paid employees, because they worked harder than anyone else in a company and that a company could still run even without most of its employees, but could never run without a CEO. He also had delusions that if he worked hard, at his bottom tier factory job, that after just a few years he would be the CEO.
Some people just can't be saved
Unfortunately there are way too many people like this out there who've fallen for capitalism's lies
I love how tumblr users take everything seriously
Robin Hood was a folk hero created because people were unhappy with being heavily taxed.
He actually stole from tax collectors not any old rich person
I love how people cry and scream "get a job if you want money! No one wants to work!!"
I literally just want a job that pays enough for rent, utilities, and food. AND that i dont get treated like an animal at. Insane
“king” charles is on tumblr now. v crazy.
They must have learned about Robin Hood from Andy Griffith
That post had to have been written by one of the nobility Robin Hood stole from.
It is not Ebenezer's fault his only employee's family is too large.
The moment I heard 'worked hard for their wealth' I knew we were dealing with a privileged rich person LOL
Hey, Robin Hood is actually pretty tame for who *I* consider role models
We best only go for the Disney version. Not the actual story which involves murder
Wasn't he stealing tax money from the ruling class? That's how I remember it going at least
Lord fotherhammson found his phone and is posting a tumblr again
Robin Hood in russian is spoken like robin good, wym😂
To be completely fair on the last part the ghost of Christmas present was seen to stop 2 people from fighting by pouring incense on them. Scrooge was literally chased by the grim reaper on horse back even though that whole time Christmas present could've just made him nice.
Another thing that is hugely important here again, is that rich and well off are different. Robin Hood didn't steal from upper middle class families, but from people who hoarded wealth for the sake of wealth.
They literally already did the Scrooge thing years ago.
Tumblr user learn to read challenge (impossible)
When the average anime fan decides to finally read classic literature.
I didn't know Elon Musk stans were on Tumblr
Unfortunately brain dead people like you are on here.
The sheriff of Nottingham was doing it by collecting taxes, he was ye olde IRS
Oh today I extorted money to hard working people who are now starving. Such an hard work...
I feel like it depends on what version of robin hood you're talking about considering how many versions there are now.
Well shiver me timbers matey would just look at all that digital intellectual property
Bro has never read Robin Hood
That doesnt refute the point that its a shit role model for little kids. Little kids sre going to have to no context behind why some theft would be justified and other theft wouldnt be.
I wouldn’t say ALL rich people got their wealth by exploiting the poor. It’s just the ones that got their wealth via hard work are sadly the rare exception when it comes to rich people and not the rule.
I disagree with the assumption that those people worked hard for their wealth.
Robin hood usually didn’t just steal from nobles he just helped the poor like in the story of the better knight “I think that’s what it’s called” a knight got loan sharked by the local abbot so Robin Hood gives him a loan to repay it and when the abbot comes he takes the money back. (Funnily enough the knight needed the gold to pay ransom for his son 400 pounds was it but the story makes note that the abbots coffers, after the knight had repaid the loan, had 800 and more in them implying that he was also behind the kidnapping) anyways the knight grows rich and comes to repay his loan which Robin forgives and does not take repayment claiming that “their lady has already repaid his loan” (the abbot was of st. Mary’s church)
There's no such concept as exploitation of poor at that time
???? YOU BEING FR?
It was set in FEUDAL ENGLAND when people were SERFS working under the nobilities land
Also, Robin Hood is a don't trust the government story, which I can support.
Sometimes, people do actually work hard for their money. Most of the time, though. It's exploitation of the working class that gets that money.