Yes!!! I love that theory. Perhaps, then, he wishes to forget Summer as just seeing her face being a up bad memories? Another reason he doesn’t particularly feel he should be around ruby as every time he looks at her he sees Summer?
Qrow always seems to look out for Ruby first as priority 1 even though he still loves his niece. It’s also important to note that Color is a really big deal in RWBY, and Qrow and Ruby share the same color scheme similar to how Tai and Yang do. The closest match I’ve seen in style is in Volume 4 at the camp fire when you see a back and forth shot between the two when they’re talking. Then their theme songs are also very similar in sound, something that’s not an accident either as music is always a very purposeful decision. They even said Qrow’s was based on Ruby’s, and in the same campfire scene their themes are mixed together, so you can really hear it. This can also be heard through various other times a little when the two are always together. There’s also a scene in volume 5 or 6 (can’t remember which) where he was going door to door at various houses, and he looked pretty affected when there was one with the line dad and little girl, and the little girl asked if he knew where her mom went. That’s a bit of a smaller note but the scene always stands out. Qrow also seems to share more personal moments with Ruby above all else. One of the ones that also stood out was when he was talking with her about Summer in volume 7 (again their themes also seem to blend a little there so you can really hear some similarity). Lastly, they just look more alike.
Wow, really interesting. I hadn’t noticed the bit about the music but I cannot miss it now. I feel like there’s also a connection in that yang probably blames qrow for summer or had picked up that Tai is a little apprehensive/grouchy in his presence. For years, ruby was probably the only person that didn’t see him as a tool to beat salem, but as a human, which would make him love her more regardless of genetics. That being said, character design is never a mistake and Qrows has a cross as a sort of symbol, and in the red trailer in place of the rose, there was a cross. I just think it’s interesting.
For me I love the idea of all Qrow's bad luck and misfortunes are now overshadowed by his own daughter saving the world, whether he knows it or not, one good thing managed to blossom out
100% have had this same theory since like V4ish. It makes wayyyy more sense than Tai being her dad. We don't even see much interaction between Tai and Ruby
This theory is a personal favorite of mine and I do believe it is true. Adding on your thoughts Qrow in Volume 7 stated that Summer's final mission was something that she took on on her own. This statement makes me think that even after Ruby was born Summer and Qrow never stopped being huntsmen under Ozma until the very end of Summer's life when she felt that she could handle Salem on her own not knowing the fact that Salem was immortal leading to the Grimm experiments in Volumes eight and the creation of the hound.
@@amiablesloth1509 I mean I can see him being Ruby's dad just by the sense that he raised her, even if he's not the biological parent there's a lot more to familiar relationship then just blood. That's not to say Qrow doesn't have a good reason for not being around ruby as much as he should of, given his semblance and all, but whether he's the real father or not Tai is her dad one way or another
The theory has been debunked in every conceivable way possible. The way that RWBY's parents work is that the child looks a lot like one parent over the other. Weiss looks more like Willow, Whitley - Jaque, Winter - Willow, Blake - Kali, Yang - Tai. People don't question how raven and Yang are biological so why do the same for Ruby and Tai? Another thing, in real-life biology. Genes don't just come from the mom or the dad they can sometimes come from the grandparents, an example would be: when the mother is blonde, and the father has black hair and the child has Red hair, but the child's grandfather also has red hair. just because a character looks similar and has a similar fashion to another character with a fatherly influence. That doesn't mean it's biological, it just means that Ruby looks up to him.
@@amiablesloth1509 Did you seriously just forget that summer raised Yang and ruby together there are so many holes in your little theory and not just the part where you call rooster teeth a liar
My theory back then is that after Qrow lost Summer, he handed Ruby to Tai because Tai was the only one he can think of to taking care of Ruby... And the main reason why Qrow decided to let Ruby live with Tai because Qrow's semblence is bad luck, and he doesn't want his daughter to receive many bad lucks in her life so that is why he left her to his trustworthy former teammate
I believe this theory is true just from the similarities and how Crow interacts with Ruby, also the tear stains on the Photo mean Summer was really important to him. If they never reveal it, it's possible that this is one of the many secrets Monty Oum (rip) took to his grave, they say he wrote a lot of the story down when he was working on it, but some important plot elements were only in his head, even the team didn't know until they worked on it. It would also be funny if Crow says: Ruby I'm your father, in the way Vader sad it to Luke ;)
@Alicia Garske Sorry, but the only one being toxic here is you, as I said literally in my first sentence, it's a "theory" and "I" believe it to be true. It could be that they have hidden the truth until now and eventually it will be revealed that Crow is Rubys Father, it wouldn't be the first time an author lied when asked about a major plot point spoiler, it could also be that the theory is false, that is why it's called a theory. But just because I have a theory where the story might go doesn't mean I disrespect the author.
@Alicia Garske authors have the tendency not to reveal their true intentions before they want to so just because they say something we can't be certain until the show is over and all the cards are on the table. If you don't like the theory that's fine and dandy but don't go spamming the comments and being toxic to other fans of the series. Being an ass doesn't help your point. And before you go and rant the same shit to me I'll just point out that I don't care if the theory is true or not cause it's just a theory.
I love this theory and I belive tha’t after Summers death, qrow started drinking and belived tha’t Ruby is better off with a loving dad(Tai) and a loving sister(Yang) and not a drinking heart breaking dad. But qrow still want’s to be a part of Ruby’s life so he becomes her’s loving uncle
@@eren34558 Summer did raise Yang and Ruby yes. Qrow did tell Tai that Summer wasn't coming back, yes. Neither of these actually counter claim the theory tho. Qrow not only was always on missions but actively kept himself away from those he loved to protect them from his semblance. The fact Ruby nor Yang knew his semblance show this.
@@shaunbubba3745 took the words right out of my mouth my friend. This Eren is a real sad soul for having nothing better to do than hate on every comment that shows support for this theory.
he left because of his semblance and in qrows theme song one of the lines is "you don't want the burden of my name" and many people think that line is directed at ruby and why he left as a father
I believe that Qrow is Ruby's father 100%. I also believe that qrow is, in a way, responsible for Summer's death. I think his semblance caused Summer's death. In an attempt to forget it, he resorted to drinking.
Whenever people bring up the “Rooster Teeth said no” argument against this theory, I just think to myself: if people had guessed Darth Vader was Luke’s father and had confronted George Lucas about it, do you honestly think he would have been truthful and said yes? I do believe this theory and I really hope it’s true. I won’t start hating the show if it isn’t, but I really hope it is.
You know, now that I think about it, Ruby can actually depicted as Luke Skywalker from star wars. Think about it: a child growing up with dreams and aspirations has her life destroyed by evil, she joins a small band of friends and freedom fighters to fight against the greatest evil in the world. The finishing touch would be that she was actually raised by her uncle who filled in the father role for her, due to her mother missing, and her real father being drunken from heartbreak and bad luck, keeping the truth a secret from her
I've thought this ever since volume 3. And there are a hundred things that point to this: 1) Qrow's semblance is not suitable for raising children. Tai is already taking care of a child, not out on missions, so Qrow can continue to "do the good fight" and help ozpin against salem. 2) Ruby will have a SISTER if he leaves her with Yang and Tai. 3) THEY LOOK ALIKE. I know, genetics isn't a huge thing. but Blake resembles her parents, Yang looks like Tai, and Ruby is the spitting image of her mother...and Qrow. 4) Who did the "parents" prioritize for their training? Their daughters. 5) This isn't to say that Tai neglects or doesn't care equally for Ruby. No, just that ALLOWING Qrow to train her was one of the things they agreed upon for when ruby was older. Qrow didn't abandon Ruby the same way Raven abandoned Yang. He was still around, but he kept his distance as much as necessary to keep the girls safe. 6) His alcoholism is likely a byproduct of his loss of summer and sacrifice of fatherhood. 7) During the campfire scene, after Qrow tells them about Salem and the Relics (and the gods), Ruby asks if there's anything else he's been hiding, Raven tilts her head in interest at Qrow at this point, but Qrow deflects the question.... 8) I really think one of the reasons Qrow beats the crap outta oscar when they realize Salem is immortal is because he blames Ozpin for having made the choice to give up fatherhood---so he could spy for Oz. Not fair, because he had half-made that decision because of his semblance on his own voalition. But during this scene he's also thinking of everything he gave up WITH HER because he was fighting a war that he now begins to feel is unwinnable. 9) he's never too far away to keep them safe. When Yang and Ruby almost died (yang looking for Raven as a child) it was Qrow who saved them. Not tai. Now, this is most-likely because Qrow could turn into a bird and cover vast distances, and spot them quickly...leaving Tai far in the dust. 10) Just because this theory would mean Yang and Ruby are technically cousins, does not mean they AREN"T sisters----they ARE sisters to each other--blood be damned. 11) Rooster Teeth is not obliged to give away shit like this they intend to reveal seasons later. Just as you pointed out, if a fan asked EARLY in the show if "magic was real, salem was immortal, and ozpin is kinda a dick" the writers would have LIED to protect their IP. And I would expect nothing else. I'd be furious if a fan asked a theory (that happened to be true) and RT's writers were all like "Damn, you caught us, we had intended to let that one out in season 14, but goshdarnnit you guessed it. Good job, random citizen." >___>
No. 3 is the most compelling to me. I know family traits can skip generations and vary, but this show seems to enforce strong family traits. The Schnees have fair skin and share the same hair color. Branwens as far as we know are pale skinned with black hair. Taiyang is blue eyed, blonde with a somewhat tanned complexion so Yang seems to be a combination of Raven and Taiyang. Yang's eyes seems to be a mix of both, red and blue which equals Purple (sometimes red). Brown haired/silver eyed Summer Rose and Taiyang doesn't really add up to pale skinned/black haired Ruby which seem to be Branwen traits. I'm not saying this is proof or anything to that nature, because they are fictional characters after all. It's just easier to see when you chart there family traits to get the visuals that Taiyang + Summer doesn't really add up, but would make a whole lot of sense when you substitute Taiyang with Qrow for pale, black haired, silver eyed Ruby.
@@bradyturner645 Would you like a bullet point list of why Crowe is not interested in summer in any way, is not a father in any way, and simply cares for ruby because he likes brats. Also summer raised yang, which you people ignore
I'll play devils advocate here a little. 1: Qrow taught at Signal academy. If he can be around hundreds of children for prolonged periods of time then he could manage to be a parent in some capacity. He can in fact control his semblance, just not perfectly. 2. This isn't evidence as it only means anything if one assumes he is her father, as it only speculates why he would have left her there. 3. Ruby looks like her Mom. I think most people seem to see her pale skin and short hair and immediately jump to comparing her to the Branwens/Qrow. Reality is her skin is quite different in shade than the Branwens, and as far as her face goes she bears virtually no resemblance to Qrow in any way. Try looking at images of her and Qrow side by side from any volume. There really isn't any resemblance unless you really, really want there to be. 4. This also isn't evidence and I don't understand what point you're trying to make. Who else would two pro huntsmen, Rose and Tai, prioritize if not their two daughters? 5. Again, this isn't evidence unless you assume Qrow is her father and even then it's pure unfounded speculation based on nothing but your imagination. 6. He drinks due to the horrors he's seen in fighting Salem and watching friends die in the process, as well as having issues forming close relationships due to fear of putting them in harms way due to his semblance(He has a far harder time controlling his semblance in combat). He also is estranged from his sister and tribe, and works alone for much of the time. Not to mention that at the ttwo times we really see him hitting the bottle hard is shortly after Amber was nearly murdered and team Oz is losing the fight, and when the truth about Salem is revealed and he's spiraling into depression over the idea that his whole life and identity have been a lie. 7. I don't know what scene you're referring to as Raven isn't present during the scene wherein Qrow talks to Ruby, Jean, Nora and Ren. Is there another campfire scene I'm not remembering? 8. Again, this isn't evidence, just speculation regarding his reasoning for hitting Oscar if you already assume he's her father. He very clearly states his reasoning for being angry in that scene and it's never remotely alluded to that he's referring to anything else. 9. This also isn't evidence as we know Qrow was around pretty often, both due to teaching at Signal, and due to his relationship with Yang(You don't become video game buddies by never being around or hiding in the tress). He's a member of the family and it stands to reason he's, well, around because he's a member of the family. 10. This isn't evidence. I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. Regardless it's irrelevant. 11. This also isn't evidence. It's just a way to rationalize continued speculation.
Yang also states that until Summer died Tai didn't tell them that Yang's mother was Raven. With that in mind it wouldn't be out of character for Tai and Qrow to have kept Ruby's father a secret for so long either. I also think that if they were keeping such a secret they'd factor both Ruby and Yang's emotional and mental wellbeing into any decision to tell them. Tai states that he asked Qrow not to give Yang info about where Raven is but knows that he did. Could be that Tai and Qrow also had discussed if it was good/nessicary for the girls to know they were honorary/adopted sisters at all. Tai and Yang lost Raven (even if Yang didn't remember her), and then Yang also losing Summer who she says was super Mom ("Baker of cookies and hunter of grim!"). Can you imagine telling her that her sister isn't technically her sister? They'd still be sister's in the end, the bond is there already, but that would probably only stir up a lot of trauma for both. I'll add in this thought: Qrow is a clear alcoholic. Until a certain volume he is constantly drinking, always has his flask, stumbles around. The man is Drunken Master when it comes to fighting, but I don't think even with out his semblance he could have raised a kiddo alone. I'd wager his drinking is part of how he self-destructively coped with Raven leaving, Summer dying, knowing what he did about Salem, and just everything. It is entirely possible that Qrow might have witnessed Summer die (that scene you pointed out of Ruby falling made me think he did). Could also be as simple as he wasn't there to save her when she needed to be saved. That said, mostly his alcoholism was actually much worse right after Summer died. Between his semblance and the likelihood that he was trying to drink away any emotions, Tai himself may even have told him that he wasn't fit to raise Ruby. I did find it weird that Tai and Yang train in hand to hand so much, yet Ruby seem to have very little to outright no skill at it. It could be a personality think, but in shows that seems too convenient an excuse. Plus, I find it interesting that Qrow did teach her. He clearly loves the girls as family (uncle, dad, step dad, whatever), but he seems more protective of Ruby. Maybe because she's the baby of the family, maybe because secretly she's his kid, maybe because she looks so much like Summer. Either way, it seems like Qrow went out of his way to teach her fighting techniques that would allow her to try to put or keep distance from enemies. You see Qrow use some hand to hand, yet neither he nor Tai taught Ruby much. Last thing: The names. Their family has some odd naming conventions going. Yang has he father's name incorporated into hers, but Ruby has only a nod to her mother in "Rose". She doesn't share a family name with Yang or Tai. My ramble now coming to an end, I honestly embrace the idea she is secretly Qrow's daughter by blood, Tai's by law.
Wow that’s a uh... detailed response.... LOVE IT!!! I think your idea about ruby putting distance between her enemies is such an amazing nod to Qrow’s fear that there wasn’t enough time to save summer and of ruby has enough time, she could be saved. Very perceptive!
@@amiablesloth1509 I love to write and tend to dig deep in backgrounds on characters. Aside from my original stuff that I don't share, I do write and share Fanfiction and get super detailed. I am that person who will rewatch a season 5 times because I want to be sure to keep the characters as close to in character as possible. Been loving RWBY recently, I only started watching it right before New Years. Caught up all of what I can on Crunchyroll, and the lore has me very intrigued.
Also where do you post your fanfics I would a)love to read them and b) I have an absolutely terrible fan fic of my own and once I’ve finished it would like to maybe share it around a bit :):)
@@amiablesloth1509 oh, and I very much hope you post your fanfiction. B-) My first few posted fics I posted were very much learning experiences. Heck, they are all both entertaining and a learning experience.
@@blueblade6174 o i think its from one episode where both ruby and yang somehow sets something on fire as well as some kittens. Tai blames qrow that those misbehavior comes from qrows side. And yang being raven's daughter, it could be implying that ruby has a blood of a branwen, aka qrow. The episode is the one that probably has the "i licked it its mine" line. Duno the episode exatcly, but i know its an episode.
Who? Ruby's father? You mean the man who's only had one genuine conversation with one of his children Ah yes. A character about as relevant as Suns Team.
This is a tough one- I'll break it down, the two possibilities in my head a) Qrow isn't the father, and rwby serves to show how close relationships can be so sweet and pure. Its almost a trope for the main char to get help from an odd relative, and to some extent qrow is already that. Making that moreso wouldn't change much, but it would take away the specialness of qrow looking after someone he isn't related to. A point in support of this i think, *could* be that qrow typically tries to ensure yang and ruby are together. He obv cares for yang too, and maybe helped suggest to ozpin that ruby join yang at Beacon, that they'd be safer together. I can't imagine qrow not playing a role in that. In that case qrow would be seen as like an angel from the sidelines until vol like 4-5 when he began watching over them much more closely. B) qrow is the father- there's argubly a piece of evidence I think you missed - in vol 3 before the vytal festival, qrow tells his nieces that he has a number of inappropriate stories to "back up how good they looked." This could also backfire but im assuming qrow is straight judging by how he looked at the bartender in v4, but in STRQ who is qrow gonna bang? Certainly not his sister. Perhaps qrow and summer were a thing and it all went to shit b/c bad luck and summer went to console Tai over ravens loss and got emotionally attached as qrow got distant. I will say, lowkey the relarionship between tai and Qrow doesn't seem that peachy; there was some minor friction over talking to ruby but im not sure how to interpret that. One thing I know for sure tho, is that summer stepped up to being super mom to both yang and ruby- and I dont think that's just because she has a big heart. I would find it very believable if she was attached to Tai, especially since we know her not returning from her mission (I don't think she's dead I think she's grimm) is what set off the chain of events that led up to now. Maybe summer was dating both idefk. [Also do we know what summers weapon was? May not have been a scythe as ruby based hers off qrow explicitly but im genuinely curious if it was another heavy fighting wep like qrow and her daughter or a lighter wep like raven and probably tai and also yang ] On that note, why the fuck has Tai not left the island? I personally believe he is guarding something; something as valuable as a relic... if beacons is still in its vault. If not I wouldn't be surprised if Tai is guarding the Beacon relic on his little island. Even if he isn't that close to ruby why wouldn't he want to fight alongside yang, whose gotten her ass kicked a few times?
Remember the comment qrow made to yang when he was drunk and she found the picture he said he can tell her alot of inappropriate stories when she asked about his team
good theory first off, that could explain why qrow trained ruby,how they seems to have a better bond than if it was with yang and why qrow started drink as i means to grieve the loss of his lover/and not being to tell ruby the truth
even if Ruby & Yang don't have the same father or mother, Qrow is siblings with Raven so still blood related as 1st cousins which is mighty close to siblings.
@Alicia Garske oh for the love of- I MADE A GOD DAMN JOKE! A you are / You are not the father reference, it doesn’t matter if I made a wrong assumption or correct one, I just made a joke
@Alicia Garske besides, can’t you let people theorize? There is absolutely no harm in doing so. The reason why most people, myself included, think that Qrow is Ruby’s dad is just based on character interactions, lore behind it, and simple assumptions. If at the end at the day Qrow isn’t actually Ruby’s dad then that will mean nothing, sure I’ll be a little upset maybe but outside of that nothing. It’s like Ozpins cane is a relic theory, ended up being false but no harm was done, no one cried about it
@Alicia Garske ok dude, I can see what you’re real intentions are, and I don’t know why you feel the need to be rude to others. I’m not even gonna bother trying to argue with someone who tries to force their ideas or morals to others without respecting them. Honestly, if something is going on on your life I hope it ends up working itself out
id like to point out in the picture of strq qrow has no ring on his ring finger, but current crow has 2 rings on his ring finger showing he'd been married and the other person died and it wasn't just some divorce.
I see how it works and I love this theory but, (from this I gather that you arn't a parent) if you had your first child who was always tenashious and is a really exuberant person and then have your second child who is more timid and has less of a fighting spirit than your first born you will be enclined to try to protect that second child and knowing ruby Tie probably knows that ruby will try to leave if she found out about her silver eyes and all that is going on in the world he will do everything in his power to stop it but he also has a large amount of trust in crow (as you said) and I love this theory but in the end it just doesn't pan out (I love the work you put in to this and I really enjoy hearing your thoghts)
Thanks for your comment. I see what you mean about the want to protect her, and I think this theory really relies on Qrow loving her, but hating himself to an equal degree to prevent him raising her. Either way, it’s an interesting dynamic.
One note about this theory, I think that Ruby KNOWS that Qrow is her bio-dad, But she also knows that Tai was the one that raised her, so HE's her Dad as far as she's concerned. In fact everyone in the family knows, they just don't talk about it because it simply doesn't Matter to them. Qrow Cares about Ruby, but he and everyone else in the family sees him as basically just the "Sperm donor" for Tai and Summer's Kid. Because we have to remember that Summer WAS actually in a couple with Tai, at least as the role of Parents (If not Romantically), for a while. We have to remember that Summer was Yang's Mom too, we know that for a fact because Yang told us as much: "Baker of Cookies and Slayer of Monsters". There's also a few other Parts to this theory that Add up. - Like how Ruby didn't take her Father's Last Name, but Yang Did. (I figure that was just so that people wouldn't Ask Tai why he's raising his Ex's Brother's Daughter, and they didn't want to actually lie about her linage, so they gave her her Mother's Name, If nobody Asks, you can't Lie, and if they do they can say something that is TECHNICALLY true but dodges the intended question, like "We just felt it Fit her better". And Yes I'm Aware that it's entirely possible that they just named her "Rose" to fit with her first name for the sake of the Colour Naming Convention... But then again "Xiao Long" can mean "Little Dragon" Or "Dawn Dragon", so it wouldn't really take away from that convention, a "Ruby Little/Dawn Dragon" is still exclusively about the colour Red, Since Dragons don't have specific Colours and the Dawn IS Red sometimes) - If he isn't Ruby's Bio-Dad, it's Slightly Odd that he has such a Close relationship with his "Honorary Niece" but not his ACTUAL Niece. Seriously, Dude Barely talks to Yang, he has 1 Scene with just her in the whole series and it's about helping her find his sister... The fact that he's Ruby's Mentor doesn't really explain the Gap in how he treats the two either. He's Almost Warmer with Weiss than he is with Yang! -The MOST Damning Piece of Evidence is from Qrow's Song "Bad Luck Charm" where one of the lines says "You don't want the burden of my name", There's only 3 ways a person can give their Name to others, Marriage, The name is a Title that can be inherited, or being their Parent. Qrow ain't Married and He doesn't use a title so that leaves 1 option, and there isn't a hundred Candidates for who he could be talking about...(And before anyone tries to say "it's just a Song, it doesn't mean anything", No. Every Song about RWBY, particularly the ones about specific Characters have been used to Convey information about those characters to the audience, even before things get revealed in the show. Neo's "One thing" and Ironwood's "Hero" both told us way more about their respective Characters than the series ever did itself, though the Series confirms what they say if you pay attention.) That's why it always sounds a bit odd to me when people say that "It would be too Traumatic for Ruby" or "Why Keep up the lie?" or "It Gets harder and harder for them to tell her the truth"... Because to me, everybody already knows, there's no reason to hide it, Ruby HAD Loving Parents and Qrow Still stuck around as much as he could afford without risking them with his Bad Luck, so it's not like he abandoned her, he just left her with people he KNEW would be Better parents than himself, one of which is her actual Mother... To use a Fairly Well Known quote: "He(Qrow) May have been your Father, but he wasn't your Daddy(Tai)"... If they ever Confirm this theory, I'd wager it would come at Qrow's Deathbed as Ruby Holds him, and she tells him as he's dying "Thank you for bringing me into this world Uncle Qrow.", Both Confirming the Theory that he's her Bio Dad, that she knows, and that he's still just her uncle to her.
Honestly I agree with all of this except for everyone knowing, and I especially disagree with everyone just seeing him as nothing more than a sperm donor. That's not their relationship at all, I think the only one's who know are Qrow Tai and Raven, and maybe ozpin, I think if they ever really do reveal it it's going to be a big story point and turning point for both Qrow and Ruby as they grow closer as father and daughter. If they kill off Qrow I think it's going to be with Qrow saving Ruby from whatever killed summer, succeeding where he once failed. Avenging Summer and stopping whatever it was from taking Ruby as well.
@@StarbornWrathZonai Just to clarify, in case what I said before Came off wrong, based on your Comment about "Just being a Sperm Donor": I don't think that's how they see him, Qrow is Ruby's Uncle and they love each other as such, and Tai Sees em as his Bro. What I Meant up there was that They don't see him as Ruby's Dad at all, he's "Only a Sperm Donor" in THAT Specific Regard, they're Still Close family though... Well as Close as Qrow can be with his Curse... I Mean Semblance. As for Ruby Knowing, there's Literally no way for us to know either way. So, for now at least, we can all have our own head-cannon about that particular Aspect. As Such "I've Made my choice!" ;P
@@kgmotte2363 yeah that makes more sense than the way it comes off in the original post but I honestly don't see tai and ruby having as close of a relationship as Qrow and ruby or more importantly tai and yang. Granted that's just because the show has given us nothing between tai and ruby, no training no heart to hearts no similarities at all, he's always seemed a bit distant to Ruby in comparison to Yang even though she's supposed to be his daughter. While on the other side of the same coin, Qrow is shown to be much closer to and care a great deal more about Ruby than Yang, even though Yang is his actual blood niece and ruby is technically not related to him at all. Now I will admit that if my theory that Qrow was directly involved with Summers death is correct, I think that he tried to save her from whatever killed her and failed so he blames himself for her death, but if that's what happened it would make sense for him to pour everything he can into caring for Ruby as a way to atone for summer's death. But still even if that was the case to explain why Qrow is so adamant about protecting Ruby it doesn't explain why he doesn't seem to care about his real niece anywhere near as close and it certainly doesn't explain why Tai doesn't seem to care as much about Ruby as he does Yang. So I think if Qrow ever is revealed as Ruby's father she'll end up embracing him as her true father. That's only because she already has much more of a father daughter relationship with Qrow than with Tai. That's just from what I've observed though I'd love to hear your thoughts.
@@StarbornWrathZonai Well you're not wrong that in the main series that Tai Seems Much more distant with Ruby than he is with Yang, but part of that is because the Series kinda Skips over the moments when they are together, like after the Fall of Beacon, where Ruby Basically Left home to go be a Hero the second she woke up, but Yang was too depressed to go with her. It IS Odd though that the Series seems to be Making a point of Avoiding showing Ruby and Tai being alone together, Even the Discussion about Silver Eyes was Left to Qrow, which should have probably been a Father-Daughter Talk Type of moment. On the other Hand, in RWBY Chibi (Which is not Cannon events, but DOES show off the Relationships between the characters rather well, aside from Cinder's Gang being Treated like they're just an other group of Friends that the Main cast CAN'T see are Clearly Cartoonishly Evil), Tai and Ruby Totally get along in that, and they have a very Goofy Relationship... There's even one episode where Tai Tries SOOO Hard to be the "Cool Dad" by Imitating Qrow, But by the end of the episode Yang and Ruby kinda just go "Dad, you're not Supposed to be Cool, you're our dad and we wouldn't want you any other way!"... With Qrow Immediately Taking Credit for that Resolution while he did nothing at all... "Didn't I though?". Also, Based on the way that Yang Once talked about Summer, as though she was HER Super Mom, I don't Doubt that She and Ruby pretty Much think the same way about Tai. But That's Speculation, we DO Need more Tai-Ruby moments together to be able to really KNOW what their Relationship is like.
@@kgmotte2363 I'll admit o didn't take RWBY chibi into consideration since it's been a long time since I watched and it's not canon to the show but I still see your point. Your point about summer however I'd argue as summer just acting like a mom to Yang, we get mentions about how great of a mom summer was even to Yang who's not her kid but we don't get so much as a brief mention of Tai being a good dad to Ruby, hell we barely get mentions that he's her father at all if you really think about it.
Yeah this is the only theory that I really want to come true cuz it just makes so much sense. If it turns out to be wrong tho thats fine but I would like it to be true because it would test Qrow and Ruby's relationship
@@eren34558 I don't know how much it would affect their relationship, she would still see Summer as her mom. I think she would be the most angry with Tai and Qrow.
Hey, just want to say that I hope you aren't letting a hater that goes by the name Eren bring you down on this video with his hating on every comment that supports this theory. He has nothing better to do if he has that much time to do this, and you, AmiableSloth, have our support on this theory. If they think that we ignore all the important details of the show, well, it's actually them who are spouting desperate junk just for the sake of hating on something they don't agree with. So keep your head up girl, cause you have all of us against a few haters 👍
Im commenting super late and haven't seen volume 9 yet but imagine a scene where salem manages to somehow strip Ruby's silver eyes power away from her and her eye colour changes into what it otherwise would have been, AND ITS QROWS EYES. Honestly the imagining is so good ill be devastated if it doesnt happen.
You'd honestly think. As a father, you'd at least stay up to date with your kids, but you never hear from Tai. EVER. Your daughter literally has special eyes and both are fighting for their life. Wouldnt the writers acknowledge his concern for both of them? They have the technology to keep in touch. Whether the theory is or isn't true. The only active family member that has been visually consistent in their life is Qrow. Both to Yang and Ruby respectively. So I do hope this theory is true, because it will definitely explain why they made Qrow be the only one between him and Tai to speak of Summer and Silver eyes. This presence as a whole is so underwhelming that you'd forget about him easily.
Notably, they actually don't have the technology to keep in touch. Remember, from the fall of Beacon onward, global communications are down, so their only option is a postal service which is explicitly stated to be unreliable.
I think Tai is on the island for a reason... which means he's guarding something. When ruby was young, obviously guarding a silver eyes g0rl but the fact that he's at home alone, with zwei, being tortured by missing his girls, has to mean he is guarding something in secret argubly as valuable as the Beacon relic, if not the relic itself. Hahah the Beacon relic is the relic of choice isn't it... how so beautifully ironic
@@seanm338 I mean, I think at this point he's just settled in. It's his home; he has friends, a job, a life there. Because, you know, parents can have lives outside of their kids. I do like the idea that he initially settled someplace remote in order to keep Ruby safe, but I don't think it goes further than that.
@@seanmurphy3430 look at how worried he is about the girls tho- yang got her arm yeeted, ruby survived but nearly got captured by tyrian, rwbys crew of good guys is out gunned and strq was the special ops team of that age. Tai obv has some skills and if he was in atlas perhaps it wouldn't have ended so badly. Parents do, but to Tai the girls are the ONLY family he has left. I dont think he would want to lose them; I don't even think he wants to be away from them. Just rewatch all scenes with Tai. He does chit chat with the Beacon guys but he really does care about the daughters and he seemingly should be going after them
I want to mention that in Vol 4 it surrounded the girls with their families. Namely their dads. Tai stayed with Yang helping her overcome her new handicap. When asked about Ruby he said he had to look after (some things) aka Yang. Lets not forget that Yang goes by Xiao Long like her dad and not Branwen after her mother. However Ruby goes by Rose after her mother and not Xiao Long after Tai. Now. Blake went home to her mom and dad where she had to patch up her relationship with her parents/mostly her father Ghira. Weiss had to deal with her father...not every father is a good one but her story in vol 4 revolved around her relationship with Jacques. Ruby was on an adventure with the remaining JNPR members but who was present as Ruby's "father figure"? Qrow not Tai. Qrow. And if it isn't enough evidence that Vol 4 focused on characters and their dads, remember we got a flashback for Ren and learned about his relationship with his parents and how he learned to take action from his father. Also when Yang and Ruby are in trouble...just want to point out though Qrow loves Yang no doubt as she is his niece, he has a habit of yelling/looking for or talking to Ruby first. Even though both are his nieces and both are Tai's daughters. Tai tends to gravitate to Yang more and Qrow gravitates to Ruby more. Another thing to think about is after Ruby used her eyes for the first time in Vol3. And Qrow asked Tai to give them some time. He said "What I can't stay here?" No offense but how is Tai gonna let someone boss him around over his own daughter? If he wants to stay, Qrow shouldn't have had any authority on that matter. Why was Tai so mad about being kicked out? If he was that upset then he would have stayed unless he is respecting Qrow as a fellow 'parent' maybe even if he doesn't want too. Its his daughter isn't it? Why couldn't he be there for such an important talk. Then there was the whole "You're special Ruby and not in the 'daddy loves his special angel kind of way' you special in the same way your mom was." What the heck did that 'daddy loves his special angel' thing have to do with anything. He literally could have just said "You are special Ruby, in the same way your mom was." And been done with it. But he brought up a the dad thing first. Idk just some tidbits I noticed from volume 3 till the latest volume. Don't take everything seriously its just my theories lol
Well first of all great theories and I’ve been noticing the daddy loves his special angel thing for years and wondered when someone would bring it up. Also, I didn’t notice the volume 4 thing about the dads but it really makes sense now I think about it. Also, qrow also seems to defer to tai in order to parent yang, like an uncle would, but with ruby takes it upon himself, with tai more like the uncle. That might be because ultimately I think ruby spent a bit more time around qrow as he was a teacher at Signal and tai broke down when she was young, leaving an opportunity for qrow to step in, but yeah. I think it’s an interesting by play all the same.
This another maybe kind of weak argument towards Qrow being Ruby's father, but he's so close and fatherly with Ruby but never really seems to interact with Yang even though he is her uncle. It's just really hard for me to believe that Tai is both of the girls
Nice video. I also like this theory. People have also commented on how the clothing of the children resembles the parent's clothing. Like Yang is a mix of her parents. What part of Ruby is Tai? It seems like she's more like a mix of Summer and Qrow. Along with the other points that you made.
I think the biggest argument you can make is how much family in the show is portrayed with similar characteristics. Pyrras mother looked and sounded like pyrra. Juanes sisters all have the same blonde hair and blue eyes as him and just as goofy. The Schnees all looked similar, with the same semblances and fighting styles. Blake looks like her mother with her father's eyes and drive. Yang looks like tia and Raven. Qrow and Raven share eye color, hair color, and the same attitude. When we see pictures of other people in the show with their family, they all share traits. Ruby looks nothing like tai nor yang. They share no traits, no fighting styles, not even the same personality quirks. But she does with Qrow. Hair color, fighting style, personality quirks. RT went through a lot of trouble in the design department to make sure everyone who is related shared several traits, but not supposed half sisters who are ok screen together a lot. Yeah I don't buy it.
@Alicia Garske I don’t know that was fact. I came to the Rwby show late and was never at a convention to hear such. I prefer Raven with Taiyang and Summer with Qrow. Thanks for the info but I’m sticking to the theory.
@Alicia Garske No I don’t. Because I don’t follow Reddit, I don’t follow wiki, I don’t follow Twitter, I don’t read the comics, I’ve not watched the fairy tales. I didn’t heard in volume six that nobody wanted Qrow. You’ll be shouting into the void if you hope to convince me to change my thinking.
I know I’m a bit late but another thing is they add physical features like yang has blonde hair and ravens hair style ruby has the similar part placement of her hair as wore while having summer hair color
Another point to this theory is how similar Qrow and ruby are visually, Ruby is literally the spitting image of Qrow and Summer combined. When we see Summer for the first time her hair is quite a few shades brighter than Ruby's, so where did Ruby get her darker hair from? Certainly couldn't be from the bright blonde tai, but Qrow has that dark grey hair, a color that when combined with summers red would absolutely create Ruby's dark red almost black hair. Then when you look at Ruby's abilities she's literally Qrow's scythe skills with what can be assumed to be summers semblance and personality. Ruby is just too much of a combination of Qrow and Summer for her to not be their daughter.
Yeah, it very well could be that it's sort of a cover-up that Ruby is the child of Summer and Qrow, and the whole Half-sister thing is evidence to steer people off the path. I think it makes sense for Qrow to be Ruby's father, but at the same time, what does the reveal that Qrow is Ruby's father do to the show? It's certainly an interesting revelation, but not one that's plot-shattering. I feel like there would have to be something more about Qrow, maybe that he passes something down to Ruby a la Summer passing down her Silver Eyes, but after all this time we haven't seen a tiny hint toward anything like that. Everything just points to Taiyang being her father and that Yang and Ruby are half-sisters... ...Unless RAVEN IS RUBY'S MOTHER!
I love this theory and I really hope that it comes true. I've believed qrow to be ruby father from the moment we saw him. The biggest thing that stood out though was at the end of season 3. Qrow wants to talk to rwby and tell her about her silver eyes. When Tai asking why he can't stay, qrow gives him a look and says please. If Tai really was ruby father, then shouldn't he have told her about what happened at beacon and about her eyes not qrow. And another thing, shouldn't he have at least trained her a little. She knows little to no hand to hand combat. But that is Tai and yangs thing so should he have not also taught ruby some. I just can't see Tai as her father when qrow is the one always there for her and telling her all the important things.
And also in that conversation you mentioned at the end of volume 3 he literally says, “you’re special, ruby, and not in the way DADDY LOVES HIS SPECIAL ANGEL.” So I don’t know if that was just a slip on Qrows part, an analogy for their love or rooster teeth trying to tell us something
I've been believing this theory since volume 4 and honestly after each volume that belief only gets stronger. Also you had some super solid points. Also I got my own theory, Summer Rose is still alive?
sometimes I forget that tai is actually her dad and yeah she has so much in common with qrow, I know crwby kinda debunked this theory but it makes a lot of sense
@@amiablesloth1509 Let me refreeze that. You ignore like every other theorist the fact that summer raised ruby and Yang together. Like every other theorist you call rooster teeth a liar when they have outright said that they hate this theory and that it is not true
@@amiablesloth1509 "I'm choosing to ignore that" When volume 9 comes and this theory hopefully dies for good I hope people will apologise for ever calling rooster teeth a liar
I know this a fun theory, however I think Rooster Teeth are going to respect Monty's wishes probably not encourage that possibility. Still it'd be a really interesting twist though. I miss Monty.
Sure! Now all of a sudden Rooster Teeth is going to start respecting monty's wishes. They started the plans to subvert, distract and woke his show before he even died, don't think there's a whole lot of descension going on with them.
I wouldn't try going down the road that CRWBY defiantly lies about a theory not being true because they want to preserve the reveal or whatever. Because this would be the only thing they would do it for. Because with every other theory that exists for the show, they just don't talk about it. So why would they break that rule for this theory unless they feel like people expecting this reveal would be disappointed when it doesn't happen?
I mean im with you on this theory for the last half of this video.. the points you made about Tai training Yang and not ruby was specifically because Ruby was not there she had already snuck away and left and Yang was in the process of rehabilitation and adjusting to her new arm. Im sure Tai did train ruby somewhat but Tai uses more hand to hand combat rather than weapons which is why he would be a better teacher for Yang while Qrow uses a scythe and Ruby was trained up using it, having been attracted to that weapon type. So it just makes sense that Qrow would be better suited to help train ruby. Also while Qrow may no be blood related to Ruby, he is the twin brother of Raven who is Yangs mother, so that would make Qrow ruby's step uncle. So maybe not by blood but he is part of the family. Going to that point about Qrow telling ruby about her silver eyes and the outcome at beacon probobly was just more of Tai not fully knowing how to break to ruby the outcome. Im not fully sure that Tai is in on the whole bigger plot line of Salem so he might not know much about the destiny of silver eyes much like Qrow does. HOWEVER, that photo is probobly one of the most hard hitting evidences we can see, besides Qrows reaction to ruby falling. That "ring" is probably the condensation of a glass of liquor that Qrow might have placed down on the picture to cover her face while he drank his sorrows/loss away. Im not here to say this is a stupid idea, and in fact iv never considered this myself and now i see that this theory is plausible with everything else you stated towards the last half of the video. Qrow is my favorite character, i hate the new voice for him but it has to happen. But fi this is a true theory then that makes his background/character probably the most deep out of all the character in the show almost.
I get what you’re saying about the ruby sneaking out thing but I meant more when ruby was really young, like 6-7 sort of age. If tai really taught ruby s would be much more like him and would be a little better at hand to hand whilst still gravitating towards scythe. But then again, tai had kinda broken down so training probably wasn’t his first priority, understandably.
I almost let go of this theory, as much as I wanted to believe it. And then you mentioned how RT won't be truthful about confirmations if it'll interfere with a big reveal. Now I will not let this go until it is outright stated in the show that Tai is truly her biological father. No "he is emotionally her father!" crap. Yes, that matters too, but that would just add to the depth of Qrow's already complex state and I love it
Hopefully at some point they give us a spinoff of STRQ around the time Raven left Tai, how Qrow and Summer helped him in raising Yang, during which Qrow banged Summer and accidentally got her knocked up with Ruby, he left because he didn't feel like he'd be a good father. Tai and Summer comfort each other in losing their lovers and decide to raise their respective kids together, and then Qrow comes into Ruby's life after Summer's death as her uncle for leaving in the first place. RT is pretty much doing what the fans want with how downhill it's going, so it's only a matter of time, they just need the right moment for the sake of drama for it
As much as I love this theory and the overall ship with Qrow and Summer, it's most likely not true, because the writers just downright debunked the theory. And plus, they could've dodged the question. Although, it all lines up so well. It would improve Qrow's character, it would explain his alcoholism. It could also explain why Qrow is so protective over Ruby and taught her how to sycthe-wield, she doesn't relate to Tai in anyway. It just sucks that they debunked it that quickly. The theory gets too much undeserved hate. (Also, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't the writers say that Penny was dead and not coming back before? Maybe I just misheard it somewhere..)
Maybe they did say Penny wasn’t coming back and actually that would be quite good if they did as it would show that the writers do sometimes lie to preserve the secrecy of the plot, so maybe the writers lied about Qrow being Ruby’s father. I really really hope this is true but maybe I’m just grasping at straws !! I want it to be true so much 😂
@Alicia Garske I am confused on why you said that because all I was saying was that they said half truths and to wait for newer videos.... I'm sure that wasn't supposed to be in a rude tone because you said it online and sometimes things online can come out in different tones, but you didn't have to add on "How can you ignore the facts." I have watched the whole series (that is out) by now and am over this so maybe you don't have to say this about a year after posted. Thanks!
I like this theory and I genuinely hope it becomes true, if not I can accept that. But one of the main things is, why would crwby confirm something that big so soon. It's like, “well you guessed right, now when we do the reveal a lot of you will be expecting it”. But other than that, it still makes sense, but again if it's not true I can life with that.
Maybe, but then came back when she gave birth? I mean, Tai looked after Yang for all that time, but if Raven left right soon after she was pregnant, Tai and Summer would have had longer, I guess.
I think the biggest problem with this theory is that it would mean that Qrow fell in love with Summer, had his heart broken, and then later in life fell in love with another girl named after a season. That boggles the mind. You would think that he would be extremely apprehensive about that. Qrow just doesn't feel like a Widower to me. You know unlike Ruby, Qrow doesn't seem like a broken guy. He's angry and curmudgeonly but besides that he's a happy guy. He's not a tragic character. His sister turned evil, but he kind just laughs it off kinda like somebody who has a criminal relative doing prison time, not like a Luke Skywalker, "I might have to kill my own father" type deal.
I get totally what you mean about the “not feeling like a widower” cos he doesn’t really - he just seems like a sad, but loving guy who beats himself up about his semblance. Perhaps that hate came from somewhere, perhaps he just loves ruby because she’s a cute little girl that doesn’t hate him. Who did you mean about the second woman, though?
Hey Amiable, there's another hater on your theory that has nothing better to do on her time if she's saying the exact same thing on every comment that supports this theory. It's sad really. Just wanted to remind you that you have us against a few haters that don't want to let us believe what we want, and that you have our support. Just keep doing what you do girl. This is your channel, not theirs. 👍
Thank you, it means a lot. Obviously we’re not calling anyone liars - there is a difference between not telling us the whole story for effect later and lying. I know what I’d like to believe about this theory, but I know people disagree and that’s their opinion. I hope no one else tries to be rude, and ask that you do not take any rude comments seriously. In the end, it’s just a bit of fun about a fun show!
@@amiablesloth1509 it is just little kids that would make that argument of you are calling someone a lier you shouldn't put thought to those juvenile people. A theory is that a guess and it yet to be debunked by anyone doesn't matter what teenager said it is.
It's already been confirmed by the creators of the show that Qrow is NOT ruby's father. I also find it kind of insulting that a cool uncle can't be just a COOL UNCLE.
Dude, he can be the cool uncle by choice, probably because of personal reasons with what happened with summer, and thinking he's not the right type of man for fatherhood. And on that argument of the writers confirming something like that, do you honestly think they would confirm something that big early on before big times? And don't try to say that you wouldn't lie to the audience about it, because the reality is, your not the writers, and they haven't finished surprising us yet
Also, he is a cool uncle to yang, just it seems a little more than that for ruby, especially given his semblance which should prevent him from a close relationship
YESSS! I thought it was a little strange though because surely he’d assume she stuck to the plan and made it to vacuo? It’s still a really intriguing and touching scene and he looks terrified when he’s yelling it.
Wait I also think that qrow is Ruby's dad cause we never listen any thing from tai about summer about there thing but there is also confuseing that tai and summer was couple Maybe there will be more of summer s part in future and I may also think that summer is alive
Another thing, Tai never really told Yang her real mother is Raven in the beginning, whose to say they didn't do the same thing for Ruby's real dad being Qrow?
@@bradyturner645 may be cause in beginning I thought ruby and yang have same mother and they don't may they both also have different father who know I think thats is for future when summer will be back
and in all honesty, it doesn't really change her family that much at all, just in a titular sense. Ruby loves all her family not matter what (which is why she's my number one waifu) so really, I believe that she is Qrow's daughter by blood, Tai's by law ... Sorry if I'm just rambling, it's just what I believe will happen in the future.
@Alicia Garske probably due to a few points. 1: as I stated, it doesn't change how Ruby views her family at all cause she loves all her family, so it doesn't really matter either way. 2: Would Monty really be admitting of something so serious? You not Monty, I'm not Monty, no one is Monty but Monty himself. So no one, let alone you or me, has any right to assume what he was thinking down the plot line. And 3: the series is lead by new producers that can bring any type of scenario now since Monty's passing, so really, anything can happen. Those are the facts I stick with that are more plausible
@Alicia Garske And I'm not talking about ships at all really. I'm just interested in facts and theories from points made. I don't care about ships like bumblebee or rosegarden or any of that. I just like to believe in theories I make without toxic rwby Fandom drama getting in the way. You believe what you want to believe, let us believe what we want to believe, even if we are wrong in the very end. Cause like I said: anything can happen.
I really don't like this theory. I think it's silly that people can't seem to imagine that Qrow and Summer were close without them being romantically entangled, or that Qrow can be essentially a father to Ruby without actually being her biological father. Most of the evidence for that theory rests on those assumptions. In regard to the latter, particularly, remember that after Summer's disappearance, Tai shut down pretty hard and took a while to recover. Yang's talked about how she had to step up as the adult during that time, but Qrow was the actual adult in Ruby and Yang's lives, and with Yang being old enough to take care of herself, it makes sense he would grow particularly close with Ruby. And regarding the timeline, you're making a lot of assumptions about Team STRQ that aren't necessarily supported by the show, particularly that Tai and Raven were in a committed, monogamous relationship when they had Yang. Also, as a matter of opinion, I don't think this would make for a good reveal within the actual show; it would necessitate getting way too deep into Team STRQ's backstory, which I know some people want but I think would just bog down the plot, and it wouldn't really add anything except a bunch of cheap soap-opera drama.
Let me give you a counter point First, to your point, there is a chance that qrow and raven just be fuuuuuuuckin, but if I recall correctly when raven left tai was heartbroken, and when summer didn't come back from her mission tai shut down. I think that's explicit, so for tai to still be hurt when raven didn't come home suggests it was more than just they fuuuuuckin As for qrow and summer, it's highly suggested by canon that they also banging. When qrow talks about the picture he mentions he has inappropriate stories. I take that to mean that they fucked. They as in team strq. Tai and raven. Qrow isn't gonna bang his sister and he's straight as far as we know (vol 7 makes it seem he can swing but he seemed to like that bartender from earlier) so for some time qrow was with summer. Just it's unknown how long that lasted.
While it is a popular theory and there are good claims to back this up, it probably isn’t true. But I’m not going to bring up a fight in the comments because every viewer here likes the theory.
Nice theory but the problem is that if this is true then he's a hypocritical scumbag that gets mad at ozpin for lying to him for years and then turns around and continues to do the same to Ruby without feeling any remorse.
I just got out of putting a hater of the theory in his/her place and giving good reasons as to why his/her reason to hate are petty. One of them that I used to win the argument being that there is always a more complex reason for everything that happens. You are indeed correct in saying that he is no better than Ozpin for this reason, but don't let hate immediately drive you away from remembering that nobody is perfect, least of all, like you said, "a hypocritical scumbag" like qrow. Like I said, you're right for this comment, but remember, nobody's perfect 👍
@@bradyturner645 I don't hate the theory or anything I just don't think it's very plausible anymore. If true it would definitely harm my opinion of Qrow and idk of he would be able to redeem himself tbh. I know that people are flawed and so should characters be flawed too, but this is pretty big flaw. Also alot of people theorize that maybe Qrow didn't mean to get Summer pregnant but ignore the more likable possibility that an emotional Tai had a one night stand with Summer after Raven left him and then developed feelings for her. Explaining why there is only a 2 year age gap between Yang and Ruby.
@@slothdemon2459 well, I'm at least glad you think on all possibilities, guess we'll just to wait and see how it develops and what the actual story is that the writers have in store for us.
I think there is a big gap between being not informed of a war that cannot be won bc Salem is indestructible (maybe he won't take part in it if he knew) and not telling a girl, that really didn't miss anything (she had loving family and was always overlooked by Qrow when he was not on a mission) that her honorary uncle is actually her father.
Crwby may be hiding the truth.... I really, really hope it is true and is just a major plot point - maybe we’ll find out when we fond out more about STRQ
@@amiablesloth1509 well if you read fairytales of remnant the warrior of the woods and tale of the 2 brothers gives some evidence about the silver eyes..
@Eren not at all. Summer rose was a great mom, just as yang said in volume 2. The way I see it is Tai’s house was a group house, with tai, summer, sometimes qrow, yang and ruby living there. The only question in my mind is who the biological parents are. That being said, summer is still yang smother and tai is still Ruby’s father no matter how you look at it, even if they’re not truly blood related.
Hole in your theory Rwby is canonically born on halloween. So if Yang was born in January then the sisters would still be technically 2 years age difference. But closer to 3 years in actual time. Not only that but it’s not like Tai is completely a stranger. Summer and Tai were teammates. They spent years going to school together, growing closer. We’ve seen with our two main teams. RWBY and JNPR, that the bond created by a huntsman team is extremely strong. Even just a couple months. So the argument that Tai just hopped into Summers bed is asinine.
Ummmm.... okay. I’m not an expert on genetics, but i think they may have slightly mutating genes in the area of looks, personality, voice, build and lifestyle. If he is her father.... well it would explain the sarcasm, I guess. They both share the same “very unimpressed rn” look, so maybe....
the ring on the picture is from a drink! so he’d cover Summer on his picture while he’d drink
Yes!!! I love that theory. Perhaps, then, he wishes to forget Summer as just seeing her face being a up bad memories? Another reason he doesn’t particularly feel he should be around ruby as every time he looks at her he sees Summer?
And another reason behind his alcoholism, not to numb the pain, but to completely erase it. Use the glass to block the image of the source.
@Alicia Garske Some cliches are enjoyable to see in media.
Qrow always seems to look out for Ruby first as priority 1 even though he still loves his niece. It’s also important to note that Color is a really big deal in RWBY, and Qrow and Ruby share the same color scheme similar to how Tai and Yang do. The closest match I’ve seen in style is in Volume 4 at the camp fire when you see a back and forth shot between the two when they’re talking.
Then their theme songs are also very similar in sound, something that’s not an accident either as music is always a very purposeful decision. They even said Qrow’s was based on Ruby’s, and in the same campfire scene their themes are mixed together, so you can really hear it. This can also be heard through various other times a little when the two are always together.
There’s also a scene in volume 5 or 6 (can’t remember which) where he was going door to door at various houses, and he looked pretty affected when there was one with the line dad and little girl, and the little girl asked if he knew where her mom went. That’s a bit of a smaller note but the scene always stands out.
Qrow also seems to share more personal moments with Ruby above all else. One of the ones that also stood out was when he was talking with her about Summer in volume 7 (again their themes also seem to blend a little there so you can really hear some similarity).
Lastly, they just look more alike.
Wow, really interesting. I hadn’t noticed the bit about the music but I cannot miss it now. I feel like there’s also a connection in that yang probably blames qrow for summer or had picked up that Tai is a little apprehensive/grouchy in his presence. For years, ruby was probably the only person that didn’t see him as a tool to beat salem, but as a human, which would make him love her more regardless of genetics. That being said, character design is never a mistake and Qrows has a cross as a sort of symbol, and in the red trailer in place of the rose, there was a cross. I just think it’s interesting.
Qrow's theme song, Bad Luck Charm, really seems to be directed toward someone. "YOU DON'T WANT THE BURDEN OF MY NAME"
For me I love the idea of all Qrow's bad luck and misfortunes are now overshadowed by his own daughter saving the world, whether he knows it or not, one good thing managed to blossom out
100% have had this same theory since like V4ish. It makes wayyyy more sense than Tai being her dad. We don't even see much interaction between Tai and Ruby
This theory is a personal favorite of mine and I do believe it is true. Adding on your thoughts Qrow in Volume 7 stated that Summer's final mission was something that she took on on her own. This statement makes me think that even after Ruby was born Summer and Qrow never stopped being huntsmen under Ozma until the very end of Summer's life when she felt that she could handle Salem on her own not knowing the fact that Salem was immortal leading to the Grimm experiments in Volumes eight and the creation of the hound.
I love this theory, I know people say it’s been debunked by CRWBY but I can’t ever see Tai as Ruby’s dad.
I know. He’s sweet and everything but he’s Yangs dad. He even looks more like her than anything!
@@amiablesloth1509 I mean I can see him being Ruby's dad just by the sense that he raised her, even if he's not the biological parent there's a lot more to familiar relationship then just blood. That's not to say Qrow doesn't have a good reason for not being around ruby as much as he should of, given his semblance and all, but whether he's the real father or not Tai is her dad one way or another
The theory has been debunked in every conceivable way possible. The way that RWBY's parents work is that the child looks a lot like one parent over the other. Weiss looks more like Willow, Whitley - Jaque, Winter - Willow, Blake - Kali, Yang - Tai. People don't question how raven and Yang are biological so why do the same for Ruby and Tai? Another thing, in real-life biology. Genes don't just come from the mom or the dad they can sometimes come from the grandparents, an example would be:
when the mother is blonde, and the father has black hair and the child has Red hair, but the child's grandfather also has red hair.
just because a character looks similar and has a similar fashion to another character with a fatherly influence. That doesn't mean it's biological, it just means that Ruby looks up to him.
@@amiablesloth1509 Did you seriously just forget that summer raised Yang and ruby together there are so many holes in your little theory and not just the part where you call rooster teeth a liar
@@maraudersacrusader Raven and Yang do have similar things about them, mainly their personalities.
My theory back then is that after Qrow lost Summer, he handed Ruby to Tai because Tai was the only one he can think of to taking care of Ruby... And the main reason why Qrow decided to let Ruby live with Tai because Qrow's semblence is bad luck, and he doesn't want his daughter to receive many bad lucks in her life so that is why he left her to his trustworthy former teammate
I believe this theory is true just from the similarities and how Crow interacts with Ruby, also the tear stains on the Photo mean Summer was really important to him.
If they never reveal it, it's possible that this is one of the many secrets Monty Oum (rip) took to his grave, they say he wrote a lot of the story down when he was working on it, but some important plot elements were only in his head, even the team didn't know until they worked on it.
It would also be funny if Crow says: Ruby I'm your father, in the way Vader sad it to Luke ;)
Ruby ..... I am your father
(Distant sounds of rwby fans cheering) haha!!
@Alicia Garske Sorry, but the only one being toxic here is you, as I said literally in my first sentence, it's a "theory" and "I" believe it to be true. It could be that they have hidden the truth until now and eventually it will be revealed that Crow is Rubys Father, it wouldn't be the first time an author lied when asked about a major plot point spoiler, it could also be that the theory is false, that is why it's called a theory. But just because I have a theory where the story might go doesn't mean I disrespect the author.
@Alicia Garske authors have the tendency not to reveal their true intentions before they want to so just because they say something we can't be certain until the show is over and all the cards are on the table. If you don't like the theory that's fine and dandy but don't go spamming the comments and being toxic to other fans of the series. Being an ass doesn't help your point.
And before you go and rant the same shit to me I'll just point out that I don't care if the theory is true or not cause it's just a theory.
I love this theory and I belive tha’t after Summers death, qrow started drinking and belived tha’t Ruby is better off with a loving dad(Tai) and a loving sister(Yang) and not a drinking heart breaking dad. But qrow still want’s to be a part of Ruby’s life so he becomes her’s loving uncle
Summer raised Yang you idiot and ruby together
@@eren34558 Summer did raise Yang and Ruby yes. Qrow did tell Tai that Summer wasn't coming back, yes. Neither of these actually counter claim the theory tho. Qrow not only was always on missions but actively kept himself away from those he loved to protect them from his semblance. The fact Ruby nor Yang knew his semblance show this.
He probably told Tai bc
A) Summer was their teammate
B) summer was helping Tai after Raven up and left
@@shaunbubba3745 took the words right out of my mouth my friend. This Eren is a real sad soul for having nothing better to do than hate on every comment that shows support for this theory.
he left because of his semblance and in qrows theme song one of the lines is "you don't want the burden of my name" and many people think that line is directed at ruby and why he left as a father
I believe that Qrow is Ruby's father 100%. I also believe that qrow is, in a way, responsible for Summer's death. I think his semblance caused Summer's death. In an attempt to forget it, he resorted to drinking.
Did you ignore what Crowe said about summer not coming back from a mission or the fact that summer raised Yang and ruby together?
@@eren34558 *Qrow
Please spell his name correctly if you are going to use it, and don't be so harsh with your wording on someone's opinion my guy
Whenever people bring up the “Rooster Teeth said no” argument against this theory, I just think to myself: if people had guessed Darth Vader was Luke’s father and had confronted George Lucas about it, do you honestly think he would have been truthful and said yes?
I do believe this theory and I really hope it’s true. I won’t start hating the show if it isn’t, but I really hope it is.
Yes I totally agree with literally everything you said you have basically just said my exact view on this theory:):)
You know, now that I think about it, Ruby can actually depicted as Luke Skywalker from star wars. Think about it: a child growing up with dreams and aspirations has her life destroyed by evil, she joins a small band of friends and freedom fighters to fight against the greatest evil in the world. The finishing touch would be that she was actually raised by her uncle who filled in the father role for her, due to her mother missing, and her real father being drunken from heartbreak and bad luck, keeping the truth a secret from her
@@amiablesloth1509 If everyone at rt said no...maybe..qrow 8s not the father
I've thought this ever since volume 3. And there are a hundred things that point to this:
1) Qrow's semblance is not suitable for raising children. Tai is already taking care of a child, not out on missions, so Qrow can continue to "do the good fight" and help ozpin against salem.
2) Ruby will have a SISTER if he leaves her with Yang and Tai.
3) THEY LOOK ALIKE. I know, genetics isn't a huge thing. but Blake resembles her parents, Yang looks like Tai, and Ruby is the spitting image of her mother...and Qrow.
4) Who did the "parents" prioritize for their training? Their daughters.
5) This isn't to say that Tai neglects or doesn't care equally for Ruby. No, just that ALLOWING Qrow to train her was one of the things they agreed upon for when ruby was older. Qrow didn't abandon Ruby the same way Raven abandoned Yang. He was still around, but he kept his distance as much as necessary to keep the girls safe.
6) His alcoholism is likely a byproduct of his loss of summer and sacrifice of fatherhood.
7) During the campfire scene, after Qrow tells them about Salem and the Relics (and the gods), Ruby asks if there's anything else he's been hiding, Raven tilts her head in interest at Qrow at this point, but Qrow deflects the question....
8) I really think one of the reasons Qrow beats the crap outta oscar when they realize Salem is immortal is because he blames Ozpin for having made the choice to give up fatherhood---so he could spy for Oz. Not fair, because he had half-made that decision because of his semblance on his own voalition. But during this scene he's also thinking of everything he gave up WITH HER because he was fighting a war that he now begins to feel is unwinnable.
9) he's never too far away to keep them safe. When Yang and Ruby almost died (yang looking for Raven as a child) it was Qrow who saved them. Not tai. Now, this is most-likely because Qrow could turn into a bird and cover vast distances, and spot them quickly...leaving Tai far in the dust.
10) Just because this theory would mean Yang and Ruby are technically cousins, does not mean they AREN"T sisters----they ARE sisters to each other--blood be damned.
11) Rooster Teeth is not obliged to give away shit like this they intend to reveal seasons later. Just as you pointed out, if a fan asked EARLY in the show if "magic was real, salem was immortal, and ozpin is kinda a dick" the writers would have LIED to protect their IP. And I would expect nothing else. I'd be furious if a fan asked a theory (that happened to be true) and RT's writers were all like "Damn, you caught us, we had intended to let that one out in season 14, but goshdarnnit you guessed it. Good job, random citizen." >___>
perfectly, PERFECTLY, well said dude. Well said indeed 👏👍
No. 3 is the most compelling to me. I know family traits can skip generations and vary, but this show seems to enforce strong family traits. The Schnees have fair skin and share the same hair color. Branwens as far as we know are pale skinned with black hair. Taiyang is blue eyed, blonde with a somewhat tanned complexion so Yang seems to be a combination of Raven and Taiyang. Yang's eyes seems to be a mix of both, red and blue which equals Purple (sometimes red). Brown haired/silver eyed Summer Rose and Taiyang doesn't really add up to pale skinned/black haired Ruby which seem to be Branwen traits. I'm not saying this is proof or anything to that nature, because they are fictional characters after all.
It's just easier to see when you chart there family traits to get the visuals that Taiyang + Summer doesn't really add up, but would make a whole lot of sense when you substitute Taiyang with Qrow for pale, black haired, silver eyed Ruby.
Summer rose raised Yang and you completely ignore that
@@bradyturner645 Would you like a bullet point list of why Crowe is not interested in summer in any way, is not a father in any way, and simply cares for ruby because he likes brats.
Also summer raised yang, which you people ignore
I'll play devils advocate here a little.
1: Qrow taught at Signal academy. If he can be around hundreds of children for prolonged periods of time then he could manage to be a parent in some capacity. He can in fact control his semblance, just not perfectly.
2. This isn't evidence as it only means anything if one assumes he is her father, as it only speculates why he would have left her there.
3. Ruby looks like her Mom. I think most people seem to see her pale skin and short hair and immediately jump to comparing her to the Branwens/Qrow. Reality is her skin is quite different in shade than the Branwens, and as far as her face goes she bears virtually no resemblance to Qrow in any way. Try looking at images of her and Qrow side by side from any volume. There really isn't any resemblance unless you really, really want there to be.
4. This also isn't evidence and I don't understand what point you're trying to make. Who else would two pro huntsmen, Rose and Tai, prioritize if not their two daughters?
5. Again, this isn't evidence unless you assume Qrow is her father and even then it's pure unfounded speculation based on nothing but your imagination.
6. He drinks due to the horrors he's seen in fighting Salem and watching friends die in the process, as well as having issues forming close relationships due to fear of putting them in harms way due to his semblance(He has a far harder time controlling his semblance in combat). He also is estranged from his sister and tribe, and works alone for much of the time. Not to mention that at the ttwo times we really see him hitting the bottle hard is shortly after Amber was nearly murdered and team Oz is losing the fight, and when the truth about Salem is revealed and he's spiraling into depression over the idea that his whole life and identity have been a lie.
7. I don't know what scene you're referring to as Raven isn't present during the scene wherein Qrow talks to Ruby, Jean, Nora and Ren. Is there another campfire scene I'm not remembering?
8. Again, this isn't evidence, just speculation regarding his reasoning for hitting Oscar if you already assume he's her father. He very clearly states his reasoning for being angry in that scene and it's never remotely alluded to that he's referring to anything else.
9. This also isn't evidence as we know Qrow was around pretty often, both due to teaching at Signal, and due to his relationship with Yang(You don't become video game buddies by never being around or hiding in the tress). He's a member of the family and it stands to reason he's, well, around because he's a member of the family.
10. This isn't evidence. I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. Regardless it's irrelevant.
11. This also isn't evidence. It's just a way to rationalize continued speculation.
Yang also states that until Summer died Tai didn't tell them that Yang's mother was Raven. With that in mind it wouldn't be out of character for Tai and Qrow to have kept Ruby's father a secret for so long either.
I also think that if they were keeping such a secret they'd factor both Ruby and Yang's emotional and mental wellbeing into any decision to tell them. Tai states that he asked Qrow not to give Yang info about where Raven is but knows that he did. Could be that Tai and Qrow also had discussed if it was good/nessicary for the girls to know they were honorary/adopted sisters at all. Tai and Yang lost Raven (even if Yang didn't remember her), and then Yang also losing Summer who she says was super Mom ("Baker of cookies and hunter of grim!"). Can you imagine telling her that her sister isn't technically her sister? They'd still be sister's in the end, the bond is there already, but that would probably only stir up a lot of trauma for both.
I'll add in this thought: Qrow is a clear alcoholic. Until a certain volume he is constantly drinking, always has his flask, stumbles around. The man is Drunken Master when it comes to fighting, but I don't think even with out his semblance he could have raised a kiddo alone. I'd wager his drinking is part of how he self-destructively coped with Raven leaving, Summer dying, knowing what he did about Salem, and just everything.
It is entirely possible that Qrow might have witnessed Summer die (that scene you pointed out of Ruby falling made me think he did). Could also be as simple as he wasn't there to save her when she needed to be saved. That said, mostly his alcoholism was actually much worse right after Summer died. Between his semblance and the likelihood that he was trying to drink away any emotions, Tai himself may even have told him that he wasn't fit to raise Ruby.
I did find it weird that Tai and Yang train in hand to hand so much, yet Ruby seem to have very little to outright no skill at it. It could be a personality think, but in shows that seems too convenient an excuse. Plus, I find it interesting that Qrow did teach her. He clearly loves the girls as family (uncle, dad, step dad, whatever), but he seems more protective of Ruby. Maybe because she's the baby of the family, maybe because secretly she's his kid, maybe because she looks so much like Summer. Either way, it seems like Qrow went out of his way to teach her fighting techniques that would allow her to try to put or keep distance from enemies. You see Qrow use some hand to hand, yet neither he nor Tai taught Ruby much.
Last thing: The names. Their family has some odd naming conventions going. Yang has he father's name incorporated into hers, but Ruby has only a nod to her mother in "Rose". She doesn't share a family name with Yang or Tai.
My ramble now coming to an end, I honestly embrace the idea she is secretly Qrow's daughter by blood, Tai's by law.
Wow that’s a uh... detailed response.... LOVE IT!!! I think your idea about ruby putting distance between her enemies is such an amazing nod to Qrow’s fear that there wasn’t enough time to save summer and of ruby has enough time, she could be saved. Very perceptive!
@@amiablesloth1509 I love to write and tend to dig deep in backgrounds on characters. Aside from my original stuff that I don't share, I do write and share Fanfiction and get super detailed. I am that person who will rewatch a season 5 times because I want to be sure to keep the characters as close to in character as possible.
Been loving RWBY recently, I only started watching it right before New Years. Caught up all of what I can on Crunchyroll, and the lore has me very intrigued.
@@xwingday there’s always more lore to learn. I began watching when I was seven and I’m still learning new things about the world
Also where do you post your fanfics I would a)love to read them and b) I have an absolutely terrible fan fic of my own and once I’ve finished it would like to maybe share it around a bit :):)
@@amiablesloth1509 oh, and I very much hope you post your fanfiction. B-) My first few posted fics I posted were very much learning experiences. Heck, they are all both entertaining and a learning experience.
This may be nothing, but In chibi, Tai implies that both Ruby and Yang have Branwen blood.
What was the episode number? I'd like to watch it again.
@@blueblade6174 o i think its from one episode where both ruby and yang somehow sets something on fire as well as some kittens. Tai blames qrow that those misbehavior comes from qrows side. And yang being raven's daughter, it could be implying that ruby has a blood of a branwen, aka qrow.
The episode is the one that probably has the "i licked it its mine" line. Duno the episode exatcly, but i know its an episode.
@@aldrich_leon8547 He's referring to crows parenting
Even if tai is Ruby’s father, qrow is Ruby’s dad.
i believe what you are saying here is that
"Tai is Ruby father, but he ain't her daddy"
@@lightningstorm6008 So basically everybody shitting on ruby's father once again
Who? Ruby's father? You mean the man who's only had one genuine conversation with one of his children
Ah yes. A character about as relevant as Suns Team.
This is a tough one- I'll break it down, the two possibilities in my head
a) Qrow isn't the father, and rwby serves to show how close relationships can be so sweet and pure. Its almost a trope for the main char to get help from an odd relative, and to some extent qrow is already that. Making that moreso wouldn't change much, but it would take away the specialness of qrow looking after someone he isn't related to.
A point in support of this i think, *could* be that qrow typically tries to ensure yang and ruby are together. He obv cares for yang too, and maybe helped suggest to ozpin that ruby join yang at Beacon, that they'd be safer together. I can't imagine qrow not playing a role in that. In that case qrow would be seen as like an angel from the sidelines until vol like 4-5 when he began watching over them much more closely.
B) qrow is the father- there's argubly a piece of evidence I think you missed - in vol 3 before the vytal festival, qrow tells his nieces that he has a number of inappropriate stories to "back up how good they looked." This could also backfire but im assuming qrow is straight judging by how he looked at the bartender in v4, but in STRQ who is qrow gonna bang? Certainly not his sister. Perhaps qrow and summer were a thing and it all went to shit b/c bad luck and summer went to console Tai over ravens loss and got emotionally attached as qrow got distant. I will say, lowkey the relarionship between tai and Qrow doesn't seem that peachy; there was some minor friction over talking to ruby but im not sure how to interpret that. One thing I know for sure tho, is that summer stepped up to being super mom to both yang and ruby- and I dont think that's just because she has a big heart. I would find it very believable if she was attached to Tai, especially since we know her not returning from her mission (I don't think she's dead I think she's grimm) is what set off the chain of events that led up to now. Maybe summer was dating both idefk.
[Also do we know what summers weapon was? May not have been a scythe as ruby based hers off qrow explicitly but im genuinely curious if it was another heavy fighting wep like qrow and her daughter or a lighter wep like raven and probably tai and also yang ]
On that note, why the fuck has Tai not left the island? I personally believe he is guarding something; something as valuable as a relic... if beacons is still in its vault. If not I wouldn't be surprised if Tai is guarding the Beacon relic on his little island. Even if he isn't that close to ruby why wouldn't he want to fight alongside yang, whose gotten her ass kicked a few times?
Remember the comment qrow made to yang when he was drunk and she found the picture he said he can tell her alot of inappropriate stories when she asked about his team
good theory first off, that could explain why qrow trained ruby,how they seems to have a better bond than if it was with yang and why qrow started drink as i means to grieve the loss of his lover/and not being to tell ruby the truth
even if Ruby & Yang don't have the same father or mother, Qrow is siblings with Raven so still blood related as 1st cousins which is mighty close to siblings.
When it comes to 18 year old Ruby. Qrow, you ARE the father!
(also, what was the name of music you used for this?)
@Alicia Garske you didn’t get the joke did you?
@Alicia Garske oh for the love of- I MADE A GOD DAMN JOKE! A you are / You are not the father reference, it doesn’t matter if I made a wrong assumption or correct one, I just made a joke
@Alicia Garske besides, can’t you let people theorize? There is absolutely no harm in doing so. The reason why most people, myself included, think that Qrow is Ruby’s dad is just based on character interactions, lore behind it, and simple assumptions. If at the end at the day Qrow isn’t actually Ruby’s dad then that will mean nothing, sure I’ll be a little upset maybe but outside of that nothing. It’s like Ozpins cane is a relic theory, ended up being false but no harm was done, no one cried about it
@Alicia Garske ok dude, I can see what you’re real intentions are, and I don’t know why you feel the need to be rude to others. I’m not even gonna bother trying to argue with someone who tries to force their ideas or morals to others without respecting them. Honestly, if something is going on on your life I hope it ends up working itself out
id like to point out in the picture of strq qrow has no ring on his ring finger, but current crow has 2 rings on his ring finger showing he'd been married and the other person died and it wasn't just some divorce.
I see how it works and I love this theory but, (from this I gather that you arn't a parent) if you had your first child who was always tenashious and is a really exuberant person and then have your second child who is more timid and has less of a fighting spirit than your first born you will be enclined to try to protect that second child and knowing ruby Tie probably knows that ruby will try to leave if she found out about her silver eyes and all that is going on in the world he will do everything in his power to stop it but he also has a large amount of trust in crow (as you said) and I love this theory but in the end it just doesn't pan out (I love the work you put in to this and I really enjoy hearing your thoghts)
Thanks for your comment. I see what you mean about the want to protect her, and I think this theory really relies on Qrow loving her, but hating himself to an equal degree to prevent him raising her. Either way, it’s an interesting dynamic.
One note about this theory, I think that Ruby KNOWS that Qrow is her bio-dad, But she also knows that Tai was the one that raised her, so HE's her Dad as far as she's concerned. In fact everyone in the family knows, they just don't talk about it because it simply doesn't Matter to them. Qrow Cares about Ruby, but he and everyone else in the family sees him as basically just the "Sperm donor" for Tai and Summer's Kid. Because we have to remember that Summer WAS actually in a couple with Tai, at least as the role of Parents (If not Romantically), for a while. We have to remember that Summer was Yang's Mom too, we know that for a fact because Yang told us as much: "Baker of Cookies and Slayer of Monsters".
There's also a few other Parts to this theory that Add up.
- Like how Ruby didn't take her Father's Last Name, but Yang Did. (I figure that was just so that people wouldn't Ask Tai why he's raising his Ex's Brother's Daughter, and they didn't want to actually lie about her linage, so they gave her her Mother's Name, If nobody Asks, you can't Lie, and if they do they can say something that is TECHNICALLY true but dodges the intended question, like "We just felt it Fit her better". And Yes I'm Aware that it's entirely possible that they just named her "Rose" to fit with her first name for the sake of the Colour Naming Convention... But then again "Xiao Long" can mean "Little Dragon" Or "Dawn Dragon", so it wouldn't really take away from that convention, a "Ruby Little/Dawn Dragon" is still exclusively about the colour Red, Since Dragons don't have specific Colours and the Dawn IS Red sometimes)
- If he isn't Ruby's Bio-Dad, it's Slightly Odd that he has such a Close relationship with his "Honorary Niece" but not his ACTUAL Niece. Seriously, Dude Barely talks to Yang, he has 1 Scene with just her in the whole series and it's about helping her find his sister... The fact that he's Ruby's Mentor doesn't really explain the Gap in how he treats the two either. He's Almost Warmer with Weiss than he is with Yang!
-The MOST Damning Piece of Evidence is from Qrow's Song "Bad Luck Charm" where one of the lines says "You don't want the burden of my name", There's only 3 ways a person can give their Name to others, Marriage, The name is a Title that can be inherited, or being their Parent. Qrow ain't Married and He doesn't use a title so that leaves 1 option, and there isn't a hundred Candidates for who he could be talking about...(And before anyone tries to say "it's just a Song, it doesn't mean anything", No. Every Song about RWBY, particularly the ones about specific Characters have been used to Convey information about those characters to the audience, even before things get revealed in the show. Neo's "One thing" and Ironwood's "Hero" both told us way more about their respective Characters than the series ever did itself, though the Series confirms what they say if you pay attention.)
That's why it always sounds a bit odd to me when people say that "It would be too Traumatic for Ruby" or "Why Keep up the lie?" or "It Gets harder and harder for them to tell her the truth"... Because to me, everybody already knows, there's no reason to hide it, Ruby HAD Loving Parents and Qrow Still stuck around as much as he could afford without risking them with his Bad Luck, so it's not like he abandoned her, he just left her with people he KNEW would be Better parents than himself, one of which is her actual Mother... To use a Fairly Well Known quote: "He(Qrow) May have been your Father, but he wasn't your Daddy(Tai)"... If they ever Confirm this theory, I'd wager it would come at Qrow's Deathbed as Ruby Holds him, and she tells him as he's dying "Thank you for bringing me into this world Uncle Qrow.", Both Confirming the Theory that he's her Bio Dad, that she knows, and that he's still just her uncle to her.
Honestly I agree with all of this except for everyone knowing, and I especially disagree with everyone just seeing him as nothing more than a sperm donor. That's not their relationship at all, I think the only one's who know are Qrow Tai and Raven, and maybe ozpin, I think if they ever really do reveal it it's going to be a big story point and turning point for both Qrow and Ruby as they grow closer as father and daughter. If they kill off Qrow I think it's going to be with Qrow saving Ruby from whatever killed summer, succeeding where he once failed. Avenging Summer and stopping whatever it was from taking Ruby as well.
@@StarbornWrathZonai Just to clarify, in case what I said before Came off wrong, based on your Comment about "Just being a Sperm Donor": I don't think that's how they see him, Qrow is Ruby's Uncle and they love each other as such, and Tai Sees em as his Bro. What I Meant up there was that They don't see him as Ruby's Dad at all, he's "Only a Sperm Donor" in THAT Specific Regard, they're Still Close family though... Well as Close as Qrow can be with his Curse... I Mean Semblance.
As for Ruby Knowing, there's Literally no way for us to know either way. So, for now at least, we can all have our own head-cannon about that particular Aspect. As Such "I've Made my choice!" ;P
@@kgmotte2363 yeah that makes more sense than the way it comes off in the original post but I honestly don't see tai and ruby having as close of a relationship as Qrow and ruby or more importantly tai and yang. Granted that's just because the show has given us nothing between tai and ruby, no training no heart to hearts no similarities at all, he's always seemed a bit distant to Ruby in comparison to Yang even though she's supposed to be his daughter. While on the other side of the same coin, Qrow is shown to be much closer to and care a great deal more about Ruby than Yang, even though Yang is his actual blood niece and ruby is technically not related to him at all. Now I will admit that if my theory that Qrow was directly involved with Summers death is correct, I think that he tried to save her from whatever killed her and failed so he blames himself for her death, but if that's what happened it would make sense for him to pour everything he can into caring for Ruby as a way to atone for summer's death. But still even if that was the case to explain why Qrow is so adamant about protecting Ruby it doesn't explain why he doesn't seem to care about his real niece anywhere near as close and it certainly doesn't explain why Tai doesn't seem to care as much about Ruby as he does Yang.
So I think if Qrow ever is revealed as Ruby's father she'll end up embracing him as her true father. That's only because she already has much more of a father daughter relationship with Qrow than with Tai.
That's just from what I've observed though I'd love to hear your thoughts.
@@StarbornWrathZonai Well you're not wrong that in the main series that Tai Seems Much more distant with Ruby than he is with Yang, but part of that is because the Series kinda Skips over the moments when they are together, like after the Fall of Beacon, where Ruby Basically Left home to go be a Hero the second she woke up, but Yang was too depressed to go with her. It IS Odd though that the Series seems to be Making a point of Avoiding showing Ruby and Tai being alone together, Even the Discussion about Silver Eyes was Left to Qrow, which should have probably been a Father-Daughter Talk Type of moment.
On the other Hand, in RWBY Chibi (Which is not Cannon events, but DOES show off the Relationships between the characters rather well, aside from Cinder's Gang being Treated like they're just an other group of Friends that the Main cast CAN'T see are Clearly Cartoonishly Evil), Tai and Ruby Totally get along in that, and they have a very Goofy Relationship... There's even one episode where Tai Tries SOOO Hard to be the "Cool Dad" by Imitating Qrow, But by the end of the episode Yang and Ruby kinda just go "Dad, you're not Supposed to be Cool, you're our dad and we wouldn't want you any other way!"... With Qrow Immediately Taking Credit for that Resolution while he did nothing at all... "Didn't I though?".
Also, Based on the way that Yang Once talked about Summer, as though she was HER Super Mom, I don't Doubt that She and Ruby pretty Much think the same way about Tai. But That's Speculation, we DO Need more Tai-Ruby moments together to be able to really KNOW what their Relationship is like.
@@kgmotte2363 I'll admit o didn't take RWBY chibi into consideration since it's been a long time since I watched and it's not canon to the show but I still see your point. Your point about summer however I'd argue as summer just acting like a mom to Yang, we get mentions about how great of a mom summer was even to Yang who's not her kid but we don't get so much as a brief mention of Tai being a good dad to Ruby, hell we barely get mentions that he's her father at all if you really think about it.
Yeah this is the only theory that I really want to come true cuz it just makes so much sense. If it turns out to be wrong tho thats fine but I would like it to be true because it would test Qrow and Ruby's relationship
Same here my friend, same here
What about summer and Yang's relationship? Summer raised yang
@@eren34558 I don't know how much it would affect their relationship, she would still see Summer as her mom. I think she would be the most angry with Tai and Qrow.
@@dvkgaming5863 oh yangs gonna kill someone for sure if she finds out Tai isn't Ruby's dad
Hey, just want to say that I hope you aren't letting a hater that goes by the name Eren bring you down on this video with his hating on every comment that supports this theory. He has nothing better to do if he has that much time to do this, and you, AmiableSloth, have our support on this theory. If they think that we ignore all the important details of the show, well, it's actually them who are spouting desperate junk just for the sake of hating on something they don't agree with. So keep your head up girl, cause you have all of us against a few haters 👍
Thank you !! I really appreciate yours and everyone’s support it all means so much to me !!
Im commenting super late and haven't seen volume 9 yet but imagine a scene where salem manages to somehow strip Ruby's silver eyes power away from her and her eye colour changes into what it otherwise would have been, AND ITS QROWS EYES. Honestly the imagining is so good ill be devastated if it doesnt happen.
You'd honestly think. As a father, you'd at least stay up to date with your kids, but you never hear from Tai. EVER. Your daughter literally has special eyes and both are fighting for their life. Wouldnt the writers acknowledge his concern for both of them? They have the technology to keep in touch.
Whether the theory is or isn't true. The only active family member that has been visually consistent in their life is Qrow. Both to Yang and Ruby respectively.
So I do hope this theory is true, because it will definitely explain why they made Qrow be the only one between him and Tai to speak of Summer and Silver eyes.
This presence as a whole is so underwhelming that you'd forget about him easily.
Notably, they actually don't have the technology to keep in touch. Remember, from the fall of Beacon onward, global communications are down, so their only option is a postal service which is explicitly stated to be unreliable.
I think Tai is on the island for a reason... which means he's guarding something. When ruby was young, obviously guarding a silver eyes g0rl but the fact that he's at home alone, with zwei, being tortured by missing his girls, has to mean he is guarding something in secret argubly as valuable as the Beacon relic, if not the relic itself.
Hahah the Beacon relic is the relic of choice isn't it... how so beautifully ironic
@@seanm338 I mean, I think at this point he's just settled in. It's his home; he has friends, a job, a life there. Because, you know, parents can have lives outside of their kids. I do like the idea that he initially settled someplace remote in order to keep Ruby safe, but I don't think it goes further than that.
@@seanmurphy3430 look at how worried he is about the girls tho- yang got her arm yeeted, ruby survived but nearly got captured by tyrian, rwbys crew of good guys is out gunned and strq was the special ops team of that age. Tai obv has some skills and if he was in atlas perhaps it wouldn't have ended so badly. Parents do, but to Tai the girls are the ONLY family he has left. I dont think he would want to lose them; I don't even think he wants to be away from them.
Just rewatch all scenes with Tai. He does chit chat with the Beacon guys but he really does care about the daughters and he seemingly should be going after them
I want to mention that in Vol 4 it surrounded the girls with their families. Namely their dads.
Tai stayed with Yang helping her overcome her new handicap. When asked about Ruby he said he had to look after (some things) aka Yang. Lets not forget that Yang goes by Xiao Long like her dad and not Branwen after her mother. However Ruby goes by Rose after her mother and not Xiao Long after Tai.
Now. Blake went home to her mom and dad where she had to patch up her relationship with her parents/mostly her father Ghira.
Weiss had to deal with her father...not every father is a good one but her story in vol 4 revolved around her relationship with Jacques.
Ruby was on an adventure with the remaining JNPR members but who was present as Ruby's "father figure"? Qrow not Tai. Qrow.
And if it isn't enough evidence that Vol 4 focused on characters and their dads, remember we got a flashback for Ren and learned about his relationship with his parents and how he learned to take action from his father.
Also when Yang and Ruby are in trouble...just want to point out though Qrow loves Yang no doubt as she is his niece, he has a habit of yelling/looking for or talking to Ruby first. Even though both are his nieces and both are Tai's daughters. Tai tends to gravitate to Yang more and Qrow gravitates to Ruby more.
Another thing to think about is after Ruby used her eyes for the first time in Vol3. And Qrow asked Tai to give them some time. He said "What I can't stay here?" No offense but how is Tai gonna let someone boss him around over his own daughter? If he wants to stay, Qrow shouldn't have had any authority on that matter. Why was Tai so mad about being kicked out? If he was that upset then he would have stayed unless he is respecting Qrow as a fellow 'parent' maybe even if he doesn't want too. Its his daughter isn't it? Why couldn't he be there for such an important talk.
Then there was the whole "You're special Ruby and not in the 'daddy loves his special angel kind of way' you special in the same way your mom was." What the heck did that 'daddy loves his special angel' thing have to do with anything. He literally could have just said "You are special Ruby, in the same way your mom was." And been done with it. But he brought up a the dad thing first.
Idk just some tidbits I noticed from volume 3 till the latest volume. Don't take everything seriously its just my theories lol
Well first of all great theories and I’ve been noticing the daddy loves his special angel thing for years and wondered when someone would bring it up. Also, I didn’t notice the volume 4 thing about the dads but it really makes sense now I think about it. Also, qrow also seems to defer to tai in order to parent yang, like an uncle would, but with ruby takes it upon himself, with tai more like the uncle. That might be because ultimately I think ruby spent a bit more time around qrow as he was a teacher at Signal and tai broke down when she was young, leaving an opportunity for qrow to step in, but yeah. I think it’s an interesting by play all the same.
@@amiablesloth1509 Summer was dead remember? She raised Yang and ruby both
This another maybe kind of weak argument towards Qrow being Ruby's father, but he's so close and fatherly with Ruby but never really seems to interact with Yang even though he is her uncle. It's just really hard for me to believe that Tai is both of the girls
Here's a strong argument against it.
Summer raised Yang.
Name one theorist who acknowledges that
Nice video. I also like this theory. People have also commented on how the clothing of the children resembles the parent's clothing. Like Yang is a mix of her parents. What part of Ruby is Tai? It seems like she's more like a mix of Summer and Qrow. Along with the other points that you made.
Yes, that’s a good point, but it could just represent who trained them and who they admire more?
@@amiablesloth1509 That's also true/one of the counter arguments. It just seemed weird that there was nothing at all.
@@amiablesloth1509 What about summer raising Yang why do you people dismiss that
Does everybody forget that summer rose raised Yang?
I think the biggest argument you can make is how much family in the show is portrayed with similar characteristics.
Pyrras mother looked and sounded like pyrra.
Juanes sisters all have the same blonde hair and blue eyes as him and just as goofy.
The Schnees all looked similar, with the same semblances and fighting styles.
Blake looks like her mother with her father's eyes and drive.
Yang looks like tia and Raven.
Qrow and Raven share eye color, hair color, and the same attitude.
When we see pictures of other people in the show with their family, they all share traits.
Ruby looks nothing like tai nor yang. They share no traits, no fighting styles, not even the same personality quirks.
But she does with Qrow. Hair color, fighting style, personality quirks.
RT went through a lot of trouble in the design department to make sure everyone who is related shared several traits, but not supposed half sisters who are ok screen together a lot. Yeah I don't buy it.
I highly agree that this theory is true.
Monty disagreed
@Alicia Garske I don’t know that was fact.
I came to the Rwby show late and was never at a convention to hear such.
I prefer Raven with Taiyang and Summer with Qrow. Thanks for the info but I’m sticking to the theory.
@Alicia Garske No I don’t. Because I don’t follow Reddit, I don’t follow wiki, I don’t follow Twitter, I don’t read the comics, I’ve not watched the fairy tales. I didn’t heard in volume six that nobody wanted Qrow.
You’ll be shouting into the void if you hope to convince me to change my thinking.
@@eren34558 I don’t care about what you believe. I appreciate that you have a theory but ain’t the one to hear it.
I know I’m a bit late but another thing is they add physical features like yang has blonde hair and ravens hair style ruby has the similar part placement of her hair as wore while having summer hair color
I agree with this if qrow raised ruby his semblance would have killed her
Another point to this theory is how similar Qrow and ruby are visually, Ruby is literally the spitting image of Qrow and Summer combined. When we see Summer for the first time her hair is quite a few shades brighter than Ruby's, so where did Ruby get her darker hair from? Certainly couldn't be from the bright blonde tai, but Qrow has that dark grey hair, a color that when combined with summers red would absolutely create Ruby's dark red almost black hair. Then when you look at Ruby's abilities she's literally Qrow's scythe skills with what can be assumed to be summers semblance and personality. Ruby is just too much of a combination of Qrow and Summer for her to not be their daughter.
Yeah, it very well could be that it's sort of a cover-up that Ruby is the child of Summer and Qrow, and the whole Half-sister thing is evidence to steer people off the path. I think it makes sense for Qrow to be Ruby's father, but at the same time, what does the reveal that Qrow is Ruby's father do to the show? It's certainly an interesting revelation, but not one that's plot-shattering. I feel like there would have to be something more about Qrow, maybe that he passes something down to Ruby a la Summer passing down her Silver Eyes, but after all this time we haven't seen a tiny hint toward anything like that. Everything just points to Taiyang being her father and that Yang and Ruby are half-sisters...
...Unless RAVEN IS RUBY'S MOTHER!
I love this theory and I really hope that it comes true. I've believed qrow to be ruby father from the moment we saw him. The biggest thing that stood out though was at the end of season 3. Qrow wants to talk to rwby and tell her about her silver eyes. When Tai asking why he can't stay, qrow gives him a look and says please. If Tai really was ruby father, then shouldn't he have told her about what happened at beacon and about her eyes not qrow.
And another thing, shouldn't he have at least trained her a little. She knows little to no hand to hand combat. But that is Tai and yangs thing so should he have not also taught ruby some.
I just can't see Tai as her father when qrow is the one always there for her and telling her all the important things.
And also in that conversation you mentioned at the end of volume 3 he literally says, “you’re special, ruby, and not in the way DADDY LOVES HIS SPECIAL ANGEL.” So I don’t know if that was just a slip on Qrows part, an analogy for their love or rooster teeth trying to tell us something
@@amiablesloth1509 Crowe was referring to ruby's father taiyang.
Did you fucking forget that summerv raised ruby and yang both?
I've been believing this theory since volume 4 and honestly after each volume that belief only gets stronger. Also you had some super solid points.
Also I got my own theory, Summer Rose is still alive?
sometimes I forget that tai is actually her dad and yeah she has so much in common with qrow, I know crwby kinda debunked this theory but it makes a lot of sense
I’m just kinda choosing to ignore that....
@@amiablesloth1509 Just like your choosing to ignore that summer raised Yang?
@@amiablesloth1509 Let me refreeze that.
You ignore like every other theorist the fact that summer raised ruby and Yang together.
Like every other theorist you call rooster teeth a liar when they have outright said that they hate this theory and that it is not true
@@amiablesloth1509 "I'm choosing to ignore that"
When volume 9 comes and this theory hopefully dies for good I hope people will apologise for ever calling rooster teeth a liar
@@eren34558 no
I know this a fun theory, however I think Rooster Teeth are going to respect Monty's wishes probably not encourage that possibility. Still it'd be a really interesting twist though. I miss Monty.
Ahem, you of all people should know. Summer
Sure! Now all of a sudden Rooster Teeth is going to start respecting monty's wishes. They started the plans to subvert, distract and woke his show before he even died, don't think there's a whole lot of descension going on with them.
@@wdf_skar Don't get on my bad side.
@@summerrose8110 well, are you gonna tell us if it’s Tai or Qrow?
@@wdf_skar Sorry my hands are tied.
This is head-canon for me.
I should also say that to me the fact that Qrow wears a cross and Ruby had crosses on her original clothing was telling.
Yh it’s interesting how everything about them seems mirrored...
@@amiablesloth1509 Including the fact that summer rose raised rubys sister yang?
I wouldn't try going down the road that CRWBY defiantly lies about a theory not being true because they want to preserve the reveal or whatever. Because this would be the only thing they would do it for. Because with every other theory that exists for the show, they just don't talk about it. So why would they break that rule for this theory unless they feel like people expecting this reveal would be disappointed when it doesn't happen?
I mean im with you on this theory for the last half of this video.. the points you made about Tai training Yang and not ruby was specifically because Ruby was not there she had already snuck away and left and Yang was in the process of rehabilitation and adjusting to her new arm. Im sure Tai did train ruby somewhat but Tai uses more hand to hand combat rather than weapons which is why he would be a better teacher for Yang while Qrow uses a scythe and Ruby was trained up using it, having been attracted to that weapon type. So it just makes sense that Qrow would be better suited to help train ruby. Also while Qrow may no be blood related to Ruby, he is the twin brother of Raven who is Yangs mother, so that would make Qrow ruby's step uncle. So maybe not by blood but he is part of the family. Going to that point about Qrow telling ruby about her silver eyes and the outcome at beacon probobly was just more of Tai not fully knowing how to break to ruby the outcome. Im not fully sure that Tai is in on the whole bigger plot line of Salem so he might not know much about the destiny of silver eyes much like Qrow does.
HOWEVER, that photo is probobly one of the most hard hitting evidences we can see, besides Qrows reaction to ruby falling. That "ring" is probably the condensation of a glass of liquor that Qrow might have placed down on the picture to cover her face while he drank his sorrows/loss away. Im not here to say this is a stupid idea, and in fact iv never considered this myself and now i see that this theory is plausible with everything else you stated towards the last half of the video. Qrow is my favorite character, i hate the new voice for him but it has to happen. But fi this is a true theory then that makes his background/character probably the most deep out of all the character in the show almost.
I get what you’re saying about the ruby sneaking out thing but I meant more when ruby was really young, like 6-7 sort of age. If tai really taught ruby s would be much more like him and would be a little better at hand to hand whilst still gravitating towards scythe. But then again, tai had kinda broken down so training probably wasn’t his first priority, understandably.
I like this theory a lot, just because I don't think Tai would have the emotional stump to bang two of his teammates one after another.
I almost let go of this theory, as much as I wanted to believe it.
And then you mentioned how RT won't be truthful about confirmations if it'll interfere with a big reveal.
Now I will not let this go until it is outright stated in the show that Tai is truly her biological father. No "he is emotionally her father!" crap. Yes, that matters too, but that would just add to the depth of Qrow's already complex state and I love it
When has rooster teeth ever lied?
@@eren34558 they literally tweeted out that they would lie to your face to keep show secrets. Get on their twitter and ask them.
Hopefully at some point they give us a spinoff of STRQ around the time Raven left Tai, how Qrow and Summer helped him in raising Yang, during which Qrow banged Summer and accidentally got her knocked up with Ruby, he left because he didn't feel like he'd be a good father. Tai and Summer comfort each other in losing their lovers and decide to raise their respective kids together, and then Qrow comes into Ruby's life after Summer's death as her uncle for leaving in the first place.
RT is pretty much doing what the fans want with how downhill it's going, so it's only a matter of time, they just need the right moment for the sake of drama for it
Yes I too am definitely really hoping for team STRQ stuff as always haha !!
As much as I love this theory and the overall ship with Qrow and Summer, it's most likely not true, because the writers just downright debunked the theory. And plus, they could've dodged the question. Although, it all lines up so well. It would improve Qrow's character, it would explain his alcoholism. It could also explain why Qrow is so protective over Ruby and taught her how to sycthe-wield, she doesn't relate to Tai in anyway. It just sucks that they debunked it that quickly. The theory gets too much undeserved hate. (Also, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't the writers say that Penny was dead and not coming back before? Maybe I just misheard it somewhere..)
Maybe they did say Penny wasn’t coming back and actually that would be quite good if they did as it would show that the writers do sometimes lie to preserve the secrecy of the plot, so maybe the writers lied about Qrow being Ruby’s father. I really really hope this is true but maybe I’m just grasping at straws !! I want it to be true so much 😂
RT does tell half-truths in order to stop spoilers, so .... we still have to wait for newer videos to figure it out
@Alicia Garske I am confused on why you said that because all I was saying was that they said half truths and to wait for newer videos.... I'm sure that wasn't supposed to be in a rude tone because you said it online and sometimes things online can come out in different tones, but you didn't have to add on "How can you ignore the facts." I have watched the whole series (that is out) by now and am over this so maybe you don't have to say this about a year after posted. Thanks!
I've been thinking this aswell. I'm wondering how he will react when he finds out they are missing.
Wait...when you said that he looked haunted as if it had something to do with summer, what if thats what happened to summer, she fell of a cliff?
Perhaps the cliff she is buried on?
@@amiablesloth1509 or that. Smartttttttttt
Music in the video?
I’m not sure but it might be a Himitsu - lost within.
@@amiablesloth1509 oh oksy thank you. Can i follow you on Instagram if you have it?
Sorry but I deleted my account last year 😬😬
I like this theory and I genuinely hope it becomes true, if not I can accept that. But one of the main things is, why would crwby confirm something that big so soon. It's like, “well you guessed right, now when we do the reveal a lot of you will be expecting it”. But other than that, it still makes sense, but again if it's not true I can life with that.
So you dismiss summer rose raising Yang
No, raven still left and summer being the great person she is still raised yang. That doesn't change
Raven probably left Tai while she was pregnant like the beginning of it
Maybe, but then came back when she gave birth? I mean, Tai looked after Yang for all that time, but if Raven left right soon after she was pregnant, Tai and Summer would have had longer, I guess.
@@amiablesloth1509 and then she came back and dropped her off it doesn’t make that little sense
I think the biggest problem with this theory is that it would mean that Qrow fell in love with Summer, had his heart broken, and then later in life fell in love with another girl named after a season. That boggles the mind. You would think that he would be extremely apprehensive about that.
Qrow just doesn't feel like a Widower to me. You know unlike Ruby, Qrow doesn't seem like a broken guy. He's angry and curmudgeonly but besides that he's a happy guy. He's not a tragic character. His sister turned evil, but he kind just laughs it off kinda like somebody who has a criminal relative doing prison time, not like a Luke Skywalker, "I might have to kill my own father" type deal.
I get totally what you mean about the “not feeling like a widower” cos he doesn’t really - he just seems like a sad, but loving guy who beats himself up about his semblance. Perhaps that hate came from somewhere, perhaps he just loves ruby because she’s a cute little girl that doesn’t hate him. Who did you mean about the second woman, though?
I don't think Qrow is in love with Winter at all, he's always seemed to have some sort of beef with her
Hey Amiable, there's another hater on your theory that has nothing better to do on her time if she's saying the exact same thing on every comment that supports this theory. It's sad really.
Just wanted to remind you that you have us against a few haters that don't want to let us believe what we want, and that you have our support. Just keep doing what you do girl. This is your channel, not theirs. 👍
Thank you, it means a lot. Obviously we’re not calling anyone liars - there is a difference between not telling us the whole story for effect later and lying. I know what I’d like to believe about this theory, but I know people disagree and that’s their opinion. I hope no one else tries to be rude, and ask that you do not take any rude comments seriously. In the end, it’s just a bit of fun about a fun show!
@@amiablesloth1509 it is just little kids that would make that argument of you are calling someone a lier you shouldn't put thought to those juvenile people. A theory is that a guess and it yet to be debunked by anyone doesn't matter what teenager said it is.
What's the name of the music playing in the background?
Well Raven could have left before Yang was born. That would change a lot.
It's already been confirmed by the creators of the show that Qrow is NOT ruby's father.
I also find it kind of insulting that a cool uncle can't be just a COOL UNCLE.
Dude, he can be the cool uncle by choice, probably because of personal reasons with what happened with summer, and thinking he's not the right type of man for fatherhood.
And on that argument of the writers confirming something like that, do you honestly think they would confirm something that big early on before big times? And don't try to say that you wouldn't lie to the audience about it, because the reality is, your not the writers, and they haven't finished surprising us yet
Also, he is a cool uncle to yang, just it seems a little more than that for ruby, especially given his semblance which should prevent him from a close relationship
@@amiablesloth1509 EXACTLY! thank you!
Your question was answered in the video so you did not watch it you just decided to troll.
I mean. Raven and Tai accidental pregnancy pretty much explains it all.
My theory is Qrow was formerly Summer's boyfriend in beacon and Qrow or Summer brake up in the end.
Ooh that’s quite a good angle we haven’t looked up yet. It accounts for Qrows regret and why he’s close to RWBY.
Update and spoiler alert, at the end of the latest season, Qrow is calling Ruby. Not his sister's daughter, Ruby
YESSS! I thought it was a little strange though because surely he’d assume she stuck to the plan and made it to vacuo? It’s still a really intriguing and touching scene and he looks terrified when he’s yelling it.
@@amiablesloth1509 qrow called yang too. Did you not pay attention!
He called both their names
@@eren34558 yes he did, you are correct.
Wait I also think that qrow is Ruby's dad cause we never listen any thing from tai about summer about there thing but there is also confuseing that tai and summer was couple
Maybe there will be more of summer s part in future and I may also think that summer is alive
Another thing, Tai never really told Yang her real mother is Raven in the beginning, whose to say they didn't do the same thing for Ruby's real dad being Qrow?
@@bradyturner645 may be cause in beginning I thought ruby and yang have same mother and they don't may they both also have different father who know I think thats is for future when summer will be back
@@rose.the_homan4256 I just hope they make the "real dad" reveal big and emotional either way.
@@bradyturner645 yep
Ooooooooh. I LOVE that idea!!!!!!!!
I knew that for sure by Qrow’s father of Ruby.
@Alicia Garske They really true for ignore his semblance his Summer was on mother of Ruby.
@Alicia Garske Not really true left want them of to their arms.
@Alicia Garske you try to used emotional fallacy to keep your fetish.
and in all honesty, it doesn't really change her family that much at all, just in a titular sense. Ruby loves all her family not matter what (which is why she's my number one waifu) so really, I believe that she is Qrow's daughter by blood, Tai's by law
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Sorry if I'm just rambling, it's just what I believe will happen in the future.
@Alicia Garske probably due to a few points. 1: as I stated, it doesn't change how Ruby views her family at all cause she loves all her family, so it doesn't really matter either way. 2: Would Monty really be admitting of something so serious? You not Monty, I'm not Monty, no one is Monty but Monty himself. So no one, let alone you or me, has any right to assume what he was thinking down the plot line. And 3: the series is lead by new producers that can bring any type of scenario now since Monty's passing, so really, anything can happen. Those are the facts I stick with that are more plausible
@Alicia Garske And I'm not talking about ships at all really. I'm just interested in facts and theories from points made. I don't care about ships like bumblebee or rosegarden or any of that. I just like to believe in theories I make without toxic rwby Fandom drama getting in the way. You believe what you want to believe, let us believe what we want to believe, even if we are wrong in the very end. Cause like I said: anything can happen.
No. No he is not. I wish he was, but the writers said he wasn’t.
I really don't like this theory. I think it's silly that people can't seem to imagine that Qrow and Summer were close without them being romantically entangled, or that Qrow can be essentially a father to Ruby without actually being her biological father. Most of the evidence for that theory rests on those assumptions. In regard to the latter, particularly, remember that after Summer's disappearance, Tai shut down pretty hard and took a while to recover. Yang's talked about how she had to step up as the adult during that time, but Qrow was the actual adult in Ruby and Yang's lives, and with Yang being old enough to take care of herself, it makes sense he would grow particularly close with Ruby. And regarding the timeline, you're making a lot of assumptions about Team STRQ that aren't necessarily supported by the show, particularly that Tai and Raven were in a committed, monogamous relationship when they had Yang.
Also, as a matter of opinion, I don't think this would make for a good reveal within the actual show; it would necessitate getting way too deep into Team STRQ's backstory, which I know some people want but I think would just bog down the plot, and it wouldn't really add anything except a bunch of cheap soap-opera drama.
Let me give you a counter point
First, to your point, there is a chance that qrow and raven just be fuuuuuuuckin, but if I recall correctly when raven left tai was heartbroken, and when summer didn't come back from her mission tai shut down. I think that's explicit, so for tai to still be hurt when raven didn't come home suggests it was more than just they fuuuuuckin
As for qrow and summer, it's highly suggested by canon that they also banging. When qrow talks about the picture he mentions he has inappropriate stories. I take that to mean that they fucked. They as in team strq. Tai and raven. Qrow isn't gonna bang his sister and he's straight as far as we know (vol 7 makes it seem he can swing but he seemed to like that bartender from earlier) so for some time qrow was with summer. Just it's unknown how long that lasted.
While it is a popular theory and there are good claims to back this up, it probably isn’t true. But I’m not going to bring up a fight in the comments because every viewer here likes the theory.
Nice theory but the problem is that if this is true then he's a hypocritical scumbag that gets mad at ozpin for lying to him for years and then turns around and continues to do the same to Ruby without feeling any remorse.
I just got out of putting a hater of the theory in his/her place and giving good reasons as to why his/her reason to hate are petty. One of them that I used to win the argument being that there is always a more complex reason for everything that happens. You are indeed correct in saying that he is no better than Ozpin for this reason, but don't let hate immediately drive you away from remembering that nobody is perfect, least of all, like you said, "a hypocritical scumbag" like qrow. Like I said, you're right for this comment, but remember, nobody's perfect 👍
@@bradyturner645 I don't hate the theory or anything I just don't think it's very plausible anymore. If true it would definitely harm my opinion of Qrow and idk of he would be able to redeem himself tbh. I know that people are flawed and so should characters be flawed too, but this is pretty big flaw. Also alot of people theorize that maybe Qrow didn't mean to get Summer pregnant but ignore the more likable possibility that an emotional Tai had a one night stand with Summer after Raven left him and then developed feelings for her. Explaining why there is only a 2 year age gap between Yang and Ruby.
@@slothdemon2459 well, I'm at least glad you think on all possibilities, guess we'll just to wait and see how it develops and what the actual story is that the writers have in store for us.
I think there is a big gap between being not informed of a war that cannot be won bc Salem is indestructible (maybe he won't take part in it if he knew) and not telling a girl, that really didn't miss anything (she had loving family and was always overlooked by Qrow when he was not on a mission) that her honorary uncle is actually her father.
i know crwby said this wasn’t true but i am a SUCKER for it! the amount of drama that would happen because of it ahhh!!!
Crwby may be hiding the truth.... I really, really hope it is true and is just a major plot point - maybe we’ll find out when we fond out more about STRQ
@@amiablesloth1509 You say that summer did not raise Yang you say that rooster teeth lied what the hell?
Nice video, Maybe you could do one about silver eyes and their connection to magic. Also I 100% believe that Qrow is Rubys real dad.
I really hope they do make it so Qrow is Ruby’s dad. We’ve been thinking about silver eyes but also in sort of a family tree way...
@@amiablesloth1509 well if you read fairytales of remnant the warrior of the woods and tale of the 2 brothers gives some evidence about the silver eyes..
Oh thank you. We were running out a bit of material just from watching it!
@@amiablesloth1509 To hell with that theory you are bashing summer rose raising Yang.
@Eren not at all. Summer rose was a great mom, just as yang said in volume 2. The way I see it is Tai’s house was a group house, with tai, summer, sometimes qrow, yang and ruby living there. The only question in my mind is who the biological parents are. That being said, summer is still yang smother and tai is still Ruby’s father no matter how you look at it, even if they’re not truly blood related.
No entiendo inglés, pero estoy de acuerdo con tigo
Is Ruby Qrow's father?
In theory, we believe so. Anything can happen really.
Hole in your theory Rwby is canonically born on halloween. So if Yang was born in January then the sisters would still be technically 2 years age difference. But closer to 3 years in actual time. Not only that but it’s not like Tai is completely a stranger. Summer and Tai were teammates. They spent years going to school together, growing closer. We’ve seen with our two main teams. RWBY and JNPR, that the bond created by a huntsman team is extremely strong. Even just a couple months.
So the argument that Tai just hopped into Summers bed is asinine.
Honestly, I don't know what to think, but I saw a theory that says that Qrow could be Weiss's father, what do you think about that?
Ummmm.... okay. I’m not an expert on genetics, but i think they may have slightly mutating genes in the area of looks, personality, voice, build and lifestyle. If he is her father.... well it would explain the sarcasm, I guess. They both share the same “very unimpressed rn” look, so maybe....
Wasn't this theory already debunked?
No.
Perhaps
Naw Tae just had a weak pull out game
No
Why do people still believe this theory?
I love how everybody who defends the theory also tends to trash taiyang
I have yet to read a comment saying anything bad about Tai, try being honest.
Um I haven’t seen people trash tai yang in this comment section