They said Tai is Ruby's father and Yang is her sister. But honestly: They didn't say BLOOD RELATED father and sister. So they might be father and sister in heart.
Monty did say that "they're half sister's" back when people asked him about it. But I'd counter that with RWBY has an amazing history with retcons and Summer as a character was only written in on a whim. I say retcon it and make Qrow the dad. It could add SO MUCH interesting idea's for the show instead of Summer have no sense of girl code and banged her friend's baby daddy.. then was killed by Salem.
This theory could be proven in team RWBYs V7 outfits. Weiss’ outfit is based off Winter, Blake’s is Kali, and Yangs is Tai, all a parental figure in their life. So why would Ruby’s outfit be based off Qrow? (Especially her hair being spiky like his.).
She never knew Summer and learned everything about her fighting style from Qrow. Makes sense that she'd take after him in terms of appearance and style. Doesn't mean he's her father but more of a respect to my teacher and my elder that I admire because we know she loves him to death. I HOPE he is her father because from a writing perspective it's a like being taken to a BANK of idea's with no withdraw limit.
As a fellow believer of the "Qrow is Ruby's dad" theory, I really like this video. I'll comment some evidence I believe in. There's more evidence to support this theory, such as the one I figured out in volume 4. In volume 4, all the RWBY girls spend time with their fathers. Weiss is stuck with her jerk of a father in Atlas. Blake goes back home to reconnect with her parents, and has an emotional talk with her father. Yang stays at home with Tai, also having one on one father-daughter time and bonding. Meanwhile...Ruby is with Qrow...How can this pattern with the other girls be just a coincidence? If all the girls were with their fathers, then Ruby being with Qrow in volume 4 completes the pattern. There is also family patterns to consider as well. Example: Yang looks like Raven, but has Tai's color schemes (yellow). Ren looks like his father, but has his mother's color schemes (mainly the pink). For Weiss and Blake, they look like both parents because both have the same color schemes (Jacques adopted the Schnee family color scheme). If we follow the pattern, Ruby looks like Summer, but has Qrow's color schemes. If they go so far to input this family color pattern for Yang, but not for Ruby despite them supposedly sharing the same father, then to me it makes no sense unless Qrow is her real father. Not only is Qrow's semblance a factor in the theory as to why he couldn't raise his daughter himself...and not only is the resemblance Ruby and Qrow present, but I agree with you that the alcoholism and despair more than likely stems from Summer's death. It just makes more logical sense. Tai was with Raven, Qrow was with Summer. Tai and Raven have Yang, Raven splits; Qrow and Summer have Ruby over a year later. Qrow realizes he can't carry the relationship on because of his semblance and leaves, knowing their daughter would be better off without his bad luck. Summer and Tai, both without their partners, are left to raise their children together, and they make them sisters. Summer then dies, and Tai has to make sure both children grow up safe, especially Ruby since she cannot find out about her real dad and why she was left behind with Tai. It makes more sense than Tai magically getting both girls on his team, leaving Qrow lonely and left out. It just doesn't feel right. Tai isn't THAT charismatic, and moving on from one woman to the next, after he had a child with the first one, makes no sense...If he had a kid with Raven, there's no way he could move on fast enough to have a kid with Summer. And Summer moving in on Tai after Raven leaves also sounds scummy. And there is no way Summer would be a cheater if she and Tai were actually together to be with Qrow, so the only real answer is Summer was ALWAYS with Qrow, and Ruby is their child. Safe logic.
@@dragonborn7955 still doesn't explain the patterns i mentioned. unless the writing is so bad that they unintentionally make these patterns which is kinda dumb. i am sick of people like you who don't even want to talk about the theory and just shut it down.
You do have a point with patterns but I still don't buy the theory, Let me explain regardless of what the creators say. When Yang was having her talk with Blake back in V2 she spoke as if she clearly remembered Summer and how her Death messed Tai up, meaning Tai and Summer had to have been together for quite some time that Yang considered Summer as her mom. Other point is that Qrow was part of Ruby's life because he taught at Signal and taught Ruby how to use a Scythe, plus he was mentioned from the first episode, Ruby and Yang talk as if they met him, not as if they simply heard stories from Tai because when Qrow fought Winter Ruby immediately recognized him. Another issue I have with this theory is the "lie" because to me it makes no sense because I see no reason for it, I get that Qrow's semblance brings misfortune and they want to keep Ruby safe and all but I get why they would tell her its her "uncle". The reason why I say this is because Yang knows who her actual mom is even though Raven left when she was still a baby and clearly didn't visit. So why lie to Ruby? Why tell Yang who her real mother is but not Ruby? Why not tell her Qrow's her father but because of his semblance he doesn't want to put her in any danger. It seems much more easier than saying "that's your uncle". If Qrow was never mentioned or was talked about as if they only heard stories of him, and Ruby and Yang met him for the first time in V3 I'd support this theory but there are to many holes for it to be concrete. I believe Qrow loved Summer and her death drove him to alcoholism and he spends time with Ruby because she reminds him of Summer and he treats her like a daughter cause he doesn't want to lose her like he did Summer. Now I also find believe TAIYANG got both his female teammates but then again we don't know what he was like during his younger days, maybe he had that Harem protagonist charm who knows. Now I'm just giving you my reasons for not supporting the theory because I do see what you're saying and I did believe it at some point but the more I thought about it the more I lost faith. Don't see this as an attack or trying to belittle you, it is just the opinions of one RWBY fan to another✌
@@erraticprofessional5404 If people pretend to be something for 7 years they will become what they are pretending to be unless that something is completely incompatible with there original identity. I think they told Yang that Raven is her mother to ease the pain of losing Summer.
@@gunarsmiezis9321 It still doesn't mean Ruby should've been left in the dark. They still could've told her the truth. I understand it might've been to much for her, knowing her mother is dead and her father can't be around her but Qrow was for around for most of her life I assume. Ruby clearly knows the duties of huntsmen so she would understand Qrow's absence and why she had to be with Tai, so I still see no reason to lie
Qrow being Ruby's dad is the theory I believe in the strongest over any other theory. It's too perfect. The way everything has been established, it would honestly seem to make less sense if otherwise. Seriously, look at Yang and Tai and Raven, then look at Ruby and Tai. RT has established family ties more through interactions than word say. But that's just my thought anyway. That scene in the opening with Qrow being kidnapped really did a good job of foreshadowing without giving too much detail if it does turn out that way. What's interesting is that they're just taking him and not attacking him. Here are my guesses: Salam sees that Qrow has felt betrayed by Ozpin and is trying to take him to her realm to either steal info on him or turn one of Ozpin's greatest allies against him. Or Qrow in his very depressed state wishes for death without fear, and that attracks the Grimm in a different manner. Perhaps absolute lack of fear is the first step to taming the Grimm, like Cinder has shown at the end of volume 3.
Qrow: Well kiddo, I'm your real dad... Ruby: wah... Uncle Qrow your my... Qrow: Sorry I've kept it from you for so long- Ruby: Uncle Qrow- Dad~! Qrow: Ugh! Ruby: Dad what is it?! Qrow: its my- my *holds chest* Ruby: YOUR HEART?! are you ok! Qrow: *grabs flask, drinks*
Even if this theory has been shot down, I still love this theory more than any other theory in the show. I appreciate that you made this video, not a lot of people post anything around this theory in fear of being ridiculed for liking it.
Why do so many people think Monty told the truth about Ruby and Yang being half-sisters? Why can't he lie to hide the twist later? Also, why are we taking the statement so literally? If they end up being cousins would Ruby and Yang not still consider each other as siblings in their hearts? People adopt family relations to each other without a blood requirement. It isn't a convincing counter-argument to the theory because I would have said the same.
I'd have to agree. I just rewatched every episode from the beginning and there's some huge clues that go beyond looks and fighting styles. i mean kids change their appearances to be like their favorite role model's all the time. but it wouldn't be uncommon for qrow to have split the moment Summer said she was pregnant with Ruby and Tai having yang as a baby at the time would've took her in. and over time feel in love before she died. the big clue i found was the end of volume 3. Tai doesn't really put much of a fight when Qrow wants to speak with Ruby. He's concerned about the topic but leaves anyway. then Qrow starts telling Ruby about Silver eyes. he said and i quote "You're special, Ruby. and not in the daddy loves his special angel kind of way." sure its pretty suddal but how he tends to stick close by to Ruby and how Tai refuses to chase after Ruby when she leaves. i honestly think that yo keep everyone in suspension RT will deny it.
The show expects me to belive that tai was that hot and that charismatic that he scored both chicks on his team? How has he not remarried yet? If hes that much of a lady killer why doesn't he have multiple ladies trying to get with him? That or Summer got with him out of pity because she felt sorry for yang. Or she and raven were closer than were lead to belive and she promised her she'd take care of her daughter. Now THAT would be more interesting. But I do like the "Qrow is Ruby's real dad" idea. Because if not, that means summer zoned in on tai the SECOND raven left. Which means she's not as sweet and innocent as she's potrayed by others.
Lunar Robot, I love the Qrow is Summer’s real dad theory. But if Tai is father of both... perhaps Summer always had feelings for Tai. Raven, Tai described as a complicated woman. Her tribe raised the Branwen twins, Raven and Qrow, to become spies and learn to become huntsmen killers. For that kind of programming to influence a mother she had to leave her daughter to return to them goes really deep. Because one twin, Qrow, stayed. Raven is perhaps the more susceptible to the tribe, the more conflicted, and team STRQ probably suspected that. Qrow may have been more rejected by the tribe because of his semblance bringing the tribe as well misfortune - so the tribe would have considered Raven far more of a loss than Qrow and perhaps praised snd influenced her more. To me... his semblance saved him here.
"But I do like the 'Qrow is Ruby's real dad' idea. Because if not, that means Summer zoned in on Tai the SECOND Raven left. Which means she's not as sweet and innocent as she's portrayed by others." --> Thank you for stating that! It's this very reason why I think others shouldn't quickly dismiss the idea that Qrow could be Ruby's father. Even though Miles confirmed on Reddit that Qrow isn't Ruby's father, I don't think they fully realize what a jerk they made Summer into. Especially since she's supposed to be so noble and an equivalent to Ruby. Like another fan said, Summer would've had roughly 14 months to get with Tai and be pregnant by him. Isn't that a bit fast??? Raven may be a jerk, but to forget about her in a short amount of time would testify how close Tai really was to her. That also contradicts Yang's argument to Raven about how Tai still spoke fondly of her.
I too think that it would fit with all the stuff we got until now. Yes, Miles and Kerry said on multiple occasions that Tai IS Rubys real father, but there are still many things that hint otherwise. It would also fit with the lyrics of Bad Luck Charm where Qrow says "You don't want the burden of my name". Ruby has Summer's last name, so that makes sense. But even if Qrow isn't Ruby's father, he IS a father figure for her and the two of them share a great bond. I totally agree with you that Qrow is one of RWBY's most tragic characters. I think hee wants to protect Ruby, so she doesn't have to share the same fate her mother had. But he can't really do that with his semblance, he puts her in more danger when he is around. His reaction to all the stuff in the last episode was very justified in my opinion. He gave his life and his hope to something he thought was right, only to learn that it was all for nothing. It was all a big lie.
I agree with you about almost everything, except the part about Qrow being Ruby's dad. I do agree that He Loved Summer, but I think he kept it to himself and never actually confessed his love to her. He probably was afraid he might cause her harm with his semblance if he DID confess his love and the two grew closer. I do think he turned to Alcohol after Summer's death and I also believe that is was his love of Summer that made him stay with Ozpin when Raven Broke with the team and left. But the death of Summer meant that the only thing Qrow could hang on to is the Mission, the work with Ozpin. And now this is shattered.
Agreed, even if Qrow is not Ruby's father, a lot of thing can still hold true with this theory. And he will need Ruby to help stabilize his life which is now crumbling around him
I always thought Qrow was Ruby's father since we met Tai Yang. Simply because while the resemblance between Qrow and Ruby us stronger then the one between her and Tai. Tai Yang doesn't seem like the friend hopping type. He seems like he's always loved Raven and still does. Him falling for Summer and having a kid with her AFTER having Yang with Raven never made sense to me. He doesn't seem like the type to do so. Plus Qrow has been stalking Ruby as far back as when her and yang got attacked by grim as kids. He followed her around for season 4 and popped up when tyrian came. And honestly he favorites Ruby over Yang. You can tell. His and yang's relationship hasn't been flushed out as much as Ruby's and his has.
@@dragonborn7955 Rest his soul but Monty died a long while ago. And CRWBY is running the shots now. They could take it in that direction if they wanted. It wouldnt be a big deal to retcon something someone said before season 3 especially if they are no longer working on the project. Plus no one would be surprised if he was
@@MrRemicas I dont really see it that way. I feel like he watches her closer BECAUSE she isnt his real daughter. Plus she's younger then Yang and Yang had shown COUNTLESS times that she doesn't need anyone's help to protect herself. Ruby on the other hand is strong of course but she's still a child. And has shown that she does need help from time to time. That's not to say Yang is invincible. But out of everyone on team RWBY (other then Blake) she's shown she's fully capable without the team. And even Blake needed the help of Adam and later Son. Yang cleared a club full of thugs, she actually the first person we see fight a Grim in the series, and she took down most of Raven's men later in the volume with little to no effort at all. Ruby is defenseless without her Scythe (but slowly getting better with that) and she's the youngest. Tai would pay more attention to her because her mother and father both left her to him. Plus If my daughters were Yang and Ruby I'd honestly be more concerned about Ruby also. Yang is most literally an adult at this point.
@@selever1527 he knows because he works with Ozpin. That conversation also illustrate my point. Tai choose to wait for Ruby to wake up, by her bed, in her bedroom, while Yang was in the guest room. Then he tried ti chnge subject when Ruby seemed to not remember using her silver eyes, and was really pissed when Qrow asked him to get out. Qrow, however, was all business. He debriefed her, sure talked about her silver eyes, then pretty much gave her instructions for the rest (the ennemy is going to Mistral, rest a bit, don't go there alone). And he did use her as a bait, since his Semblance wasn't an issue when staying with the group in Mistral, fight alongside them at Haven, or right now as he is travelling with them.
People in the comments saying that this theory has been debunked. I Dont think Roosterteeth would be inclined to respond honestly to this theory. If I went back to 1980 and asked george lucas if Vader was lukes father he would say "No", because it would be a HUGE spoiler. Im not saying that qrow is definately ruby's father, but just because youve been told that he isnt doesnt mean he is not. And if they contined to ignore the question, their silence would speak volumes anyway
MORE EVIDENCE!!! Remember when Qrow was playing games with Ruby and Yang and he pulled out an old picture of team STRQ? well if you zoom in and look at the picture closely you can see what looks like teardrop stains all over the picture, and also a big circle around summer! Also take note that he carries it everywhere with him. And the teardrops indicate that he must have been saddened by the picture because he misses someone dearly.. Tai and Raven are still alive, he can see them anytime, so why would he cry over them? Summer is the only one in the picture who is gone. I also don’t think Qrow is the type of guy to cry easily, unless someone he cared DEEPLY for was gone. I totally believe this theory! Tai looks absolutely nothing like Ruby... and even if Yang is not Ruby’s biological sister, she would still be her cousin. Raven is Qrow’s sister. Plus they would always be sisters by heart. And about the creators saying that Tai is definitely Ruby’s father, why would they say otherwise?? That’s a HUGE spoiler!!! Anyway that’s what I think lol. Thank you for reading this SUPER long comment and I hope you have an amazing day 😊
Everyone saying that CRWBY debunked this: they could very well legally be half sisters with Tai being Ruby's legal guardian and not her blood father. And also it would be very difficult for Qrow to disclose that because it would be world shattering for Ruby. From episode one Ruby and Yang have been super close, and there for each other. All of that would have been a lie. If he does tell her, then Ruby wont be able to forgive him as easily. But, playing the devil's advocate, I've always had this idea that Summer's semblance was good luck, so they cancelled each other out and she was the only person that Qrow could safely be around. Theres absolutely no evidence behind this but I think it would be pretty cool.
Exactly, thank you for pointing that out. That's an interesting theory of Summer's semblance, it would also imply that Qrow and Summer would be a perfect match for each other. I really like that. Thanks for commenting!
Dont forget, qrow left the tribe. Raven said it in volume 4 that qrow turned his back on his tribe, and he said because they were killers and thefts and raven calls him a traitor because the tribe raised them like family.
Have you guys heard of the small theory by Eruption Fang I think called the "Qrow killed Summer Rose" that would add like a whole other layer to the "Qrow is Ruby's dad". Obviously it wouldn't have been intentional just...watch the video! It's great.
This whole video seems like a kid in ap English making a story about a deep dark edgy boi who is so deep so their English teacher gives them a good grade on a test
When 1st watching, some things always stood out. When Qrow kicked Tai out the room to talk to Ruby. Color scheme. They both wear crosses (Tai and yang does not). Qrow explained silver eyes to Ruby's just like the Grim reaper's fad taught her. BUT THE NUMBER ONE THING IS... why didn't Tai train Ruby?
Honestly, I’ve been holding out for this exact theory. I would *love* to see the father-daughter relationship develop and see how Qrow and Ruby respond to this secret coming to light. EDIT: There is a lyric in Bad Luck Charm that says, “You and I are not the same; you don’t want the burden of my name.” That line gets me every time, and I honestly would love to see what that has to do with their relationship.
I have to say, this IS a compelling argument toward the possibility of Qrow being Ruby's dad. Not saying I'm with or against it, but anything is possible and as you pointed out... His semblance would be a KEY reason for why he left Ruby with Tai and began this lie of being an uncle to protect her. Yet, if this is true... I feel nothing but pity for Qrow even more. Knowing despite all his efforts, he not only failed to find ANY justification for his semblance he sees as his curse that hurts everyone he loves, but he also failed to protect Ruby from Salem. All this time he would've been fighting Salem in hopes of giving Ruby the future Qrow and Summer both would've wanted Ruby to have, safe and free from living in a constant battle against an unending army of grimm, as well as the terrifying witch who can control them.
My theory is that Qrow and Summer were in a relationship. Something went terribly wrong and blaming himself, and perhaps his semblance, he walks away leaving Summer heartbroken. This is around the same time Raven leaves Taiyang and baby Yang. Summer and Taiyang find comfort in each other and start a relationship and have Ruby. Eventually Qrow comes back into Yang and Ruby's life, showing much affection for Ruby since she is the daughter of the love of his life.
I still don't buy the theory, Let me explain regardless of what the creators say. When Yang was having her talk with Blake back in V2 she spoke as if she clearly remembered Summer and how her Death messed Tai up, meaning Tai and Summer had to have been together for quite some time that Yang considered Summer as her mom. Other point is that Qrow was part of Ruby's life because he taught at Signal and taught Ruby how to use a Scythe, plus he was mentioned from the first episode, Ruby and Yang talk as if they met him, not as if they simply heard stories from Tai because when Qrow fought Winter Ruby immediately recognized him. Another issue I have with this theory is the "lie" because to me it makes no sense because I see no reason for it, I get that Qrow's semblance brings misfortune and they want to keep Ruby safe and all but I don't get why they would tell her its her "uncle". The reason why I say this is because Yang knows who her actual mom is even though Raven left when she was still a baby and clearly didn't visit. So why lie to Ruby? Why tell Yang who her real mother is but not Ruby about her real father? Why not tell her Qrow's her father but because of his semblance he doesn't want to put her in any danger. It seems much more easier than saying "that's your uncle". If Qrow was never mentioned or was talked about as if they only heard stories of him, and Ruby and Yang met him for the first time in V3 I'd support this theory but there are to many holes for it to be concrete. I believe Qrow loved Summer and her death drove him to alcoholism and he spends time with Ruby because she reminds him of Summer and he treats her like a daughter cause he doesn't want to lose her like he did Summer. Now I also find it difficult to believe TAIYANG got both his female teammates but then again we don't know what he was like during his younger days, maybe he had that Harem protagonist charm who knows. Now I'm just giving you my reasons for not supporting the theory because I do see what you're saying and I did believe it at some point but the more I thought about it the more I lost faith.
@James Schulte With Qrow's semblance I doubt he would be in a relationship with someone knowing he is constantly putting them in danger. I do however believe he loved Summer, and he treats Ruby like a daughter because she reminds him of Summer and he feels as long as Ruby's alive Summer is never truly gone
Sorry for tying this to Frozen. But the same logic could be applied to Anna. Why did Anna's parents keep Elsa's powers a secret to Anna? Wasn't Anna mature enough to handle that secret? The answer is: To protect Anna. The same can be said for Ruby. Qrow didn't necessarily want to be out of Ruby's life completely, he just didn't want to take on the burden of being a father in fear of failing Ruby due to his semblance. Being Ruby's teacher or playing the "uncle" role is not a full-time job. (By the way, it's not unusual for a close friend of the family to be called "uncle" or "aunt" in spite of not being blood-related. In addition, Qrow would truly be an uncle to Yang, at least.) That is something he could handle. After all, he still has to work with others as a team in spite of his semblance. If he wanted to run away, he might as well ran away from everyone so as not to give them bad luck. But Qrow never did that. He still wants to contribute to the battle against Salem. Personally, I don't believe this theory has that many plot holes. A fan figured that Summer would have to have roughly 14 months to get pregnant by Tai since Ruby and Yang are two years apart. For Summer to get married and pregnant (Whatever which way it goes.) in that short amount of time would make Summer a jerk. That is because it would've meant that she was quick to get with Tai after he tragically lost Raven. Summer and Raven were supposed to have been friends. An action like that is below the belt even if Raven is a jerk! I'm not saying that this theory HAS to be true. But it seems that Rooster Teeth is not paying enough attention to how they're making their characters look. Summer would appear nobler if she was pregnant with Qrow's child, not Tai's. Which is how she's described. But I do agree with you about Summer living with Tai as Ruby's and Yang's mother. But that doesn't mean she didn't have a past with Qrow. Maybe Summer fought with Qrow about raising Ruby and lost the argument. I could easily see Tai volunteering to help Summer with her pregnancy and who knows what happened then.
I've always enjoyed the Qrow is Ruby's dad theory because it adds more depth to Qrow's character and it wouldn't ruin any familial bonds with Yang as instead of being sisters, she and Ruby would instead be first cousins. It would also explain why Ruby doesn't look even a tiny bit like Ty, even her colour scheme is very similar to Qrow's. Besides, doesn't Qrow and Summer being in a relationship and having a child makes a lot more sense than Ty being with Raven, having a child, Raven leaving, and then one year later he's knocked up Summer?
All the buthurt people in the comments.... It's a THEORY for heaven's sake! Even if they debunked it I still stand by it! That isn't going to stop the fandom from discussing this theory more and more.
This is a hill I would gladly die on because it makes far too much sense. When you look at the Belladonnas and the Schnees, both families look like they're related. But Ruby looks nothing like Yang or Tai which has only strengthened my belief in this theory. Character design is extremely specific and important in RWBY so the fact that Ruby actually looks like Qrow and nothing like Tai has to mean something.
@@animedude8712 I think you're missing the point that Yang clearly looks like both Tai and Raven but Ruby looks nothing like Tai at all. Not his eye color, not his hair color, none of it at all.
@@animedude8712 her hair may not look exactly like Qrow's now but you can't tell me a much younger Qrow wouldn't have had dark hair not too dissimilar to Ruby's. It's clear his hair has some gray in it so it's not the same as we see them now and it's still much closer than if she was biologically Tai's daughter.
Steven Grossman You bring up a good point. However, we’ve never seen a younger looking Qrow. There is the picture and it does seem a bit black, but it’s not enough. My main problem with this theory is just how bonkers and insane it is.
They say that Tai is supposed to be Ruby and Yang's father, but it makes no sense he'd have a daughter with Raven, and Then have a daughter with Summer almostly exactly 2 years later. Even Ruby and Yang weren't blood related, they'd still love each other dearly.
I wont believe Tai landed not only Raven but Summer as well. Crow being Ruby's dad and his semblance brought misfortune upon Summer is such a better route than Tai being a playboy lol.
I can get behind people who have actually good reasons to believe canon is correct and Qrow is just Ruby's uncle, but anyone saying "CRWBY debunked it, it's done, shut up about it" need to realise we're not as stupid as you think we are. We know the writers denied it. We believe this theory because it makes a lot of sense, moreso than canon. Is it bad to want what we think is a better-written outcome with all these interactions Ruby and Qrow have? And writers are rarely on the reader's side when it comes to spoilers. They have secrets to keep and spoilers to maintain, and truth becomes secondary to the story's payoff. I personally love this theory and believe it. Tai is little more than the stereotypical dad when it comes to Ruby, though there's nothing wrong with that. But let's see here. Tai is a stable man. A good fighter, but more suited as a family man. He offers that stability Qrow knows he can never give. Plus we see that Qrow was just as charismatic and attractive in Beacon as he is now. He's a bad boy and lady's man, and you expect me to believe BOTH his teammates went for Tai and never considered him? Raven sure, because they're siblings, but Summer too? Qrow is probably the most eligible bachelor in the whole school. If Tai loved Raven and went with her, EVEN if Summer pined for Tai in secret, you think she wouldn't have considered Qrow in the time Tai and Raven were together? Entertain my headcanon for a bit. If Qrow was in love with Summer, and Summer pined for Tai, but Tai chose Raven, I think it's very possible she may have considered Qrow as a partner now even if she never did before. Summer would have accepted that Tai was impossible for her to pursue and only then saw Qrow as a possible partner. I also think this theory just enriches the story overall. There's nothing wrong with the straightforward route of Tai being Ruby's dad, but why we subscribe to it is because it otherwise just shuts down all of these possibilities. There's no secret to keep, no revelation to uncover. The main character and her beloved uncle never have to have their relationship and trust tested and strained, and Qrow can just merrily stake his life to protect Ruby the entire show while Ruby's own father waters his daisy garden. The uncle somehow is just closer to the niece than her own father, even though you want me to believe Tai loves Summer just as much as he loved Raven. Qrow actually has a place within Team STRQ beyond being the lone wolf who's out of the loop. His tense exchange with Tai at the end of Volume 3 becomes loaded with subtext and explains Tai's hostility to Qrow. The writers are clearly dropping hints that Qrow was extremely torn up about Summer's death over anything else in his life besides Ozpin. All this gets thrown out the window if we just shut up and accept that the writers will always tell the truth to fan questions on the internet even if it means spoiling a potentially huge endgame reveal, and just shrug and say Tai is Ruby's dad for sure.
To me this theory doesn’t make any sense. I think Ruby and Qrow have a good relationship now and don’t really need the daughter, father thing. Not to mention Tai and Ruby haven’t been in that many parts together. It seems unfair to say, they aren’t close, when we haven’t seen them together. Also Tai was sleeping near Ruby. He cares.
Does like everyone just forget that summer lived long enough for yang to remember as a mother figure which meant she lived with taiyang as a couple? Back in volume two when she talks to Blake about raven she says that summer was “like a super mom” and after she died it really messed her up even though she thought ruby was too young to really know what was going on or remember her, and that’s when she found out that summer wasn’t her real mother, that her real mother left after she was born, and she became obsessed with finding her. The literal reason she clung so desperately to the idea of finding raven is because she just lost her mother and used the idea of that as a replacement to help her cope. If summer raised yang with taiyang until she died she was obviously with him and not qrow, unless the theory is founded on her cheating which is possible but not what anyone talks about when they mention it.
The strangest thing is definitely how close he is to Ruby, who according to what we are given has no blood ties to him, over Yang who is his blood niece
I like this theory, plus if you see how much connection qrow has with ruby more than yang. Even if this theory isnt true, still qroe has thay connection to someone whos not related much more stronger than someone from his blood ( speaking about yang).
I love qrow very much I just hope he doesn’t die either also rooster teeth is having awful excuse that qrow isn’t the father there are so many hints his theme and like you said how they get along so well he watches over her, he protects her for any harm, his not moving on that’s for sure so much for snow bird fans Sorry guys qrow isn’t into winter But my point is if he tells her what about ruby her dad isn’t a real father and the uncle is the father all along and he can’t be there with her for 15 or 16 years because his semblance he loves her so much he doesn’t want anything happen it’ll be hard for him to explain it’ll be hard for Ruby understand and if possible I’m not sure if it happens but if it does happen maybe qrow could be father again I’m hoping for it but like rooster teeth always kept saying “qrow is not the father” but you guys left so many hints that he is than he isn’t your just messing with our minds But yeah I hope nothing happen to qrow if there was it’s going be sad both of Ruby’s parents are dead not only that we just hope qrow have good life than he has been through people are still upset about Pyrrha and penny’s death I’m not sure about the top at with cane but I’m just saying if anything does happen to qrow I’m done with rooster teeth
Honestly it makes the most sense and to those who say "oh they said qrow isn't her father" think from a story teller viewpoint why the hell would they reveal such a huge plot twist outside of the show? It makes not legitimate sense to reveal such a thing it would be like george lucas spoiling that luke was darth vader's son in a interview it's stupid.
because the inherit danger of qrow's semblance would be to a baby ruby not to mention a pregnant summer tai for all his bluster at qrow is rather nice to him meaning they where or are good friends i could see tai offering to play the part of a father to ruby and summer helps qrow with the raising of a still relatively young yang, while qrow stay's at a relatively safe distance from ruby. only getting closer when he thinks she might be able to somewhat handle his bad luck semblance.
Still I feel like they could have come up with a better method. I mean no one in their right mind would come up with such a crazy plan. I mean Tai and Summer just pretend to be a couple and Qrow just watches from a far? That's just not normal. I mean Qrow could just come and go. There's no need to turn Tai into Ruby's dad. Besides if this is true, this will not work out for anyone. Ruby being lied to all this time would most likely not take it well. Heck Yang might be even put into the cross fire with this one. I'm just saying it's not going to end with rainbows.
feels more natural than tai shacking up with summer just after raven leaves and them popping out a baby even though it's shown he still holds a place for raven in his heart, not to mention how the fuck does it not feel normal watching your daughter from afar under the pretense of being a step sister's uncle and a brother-in-law taking in your child and loved one while she looks after a young girl who has no mother figure and playing off the fact hell yang didn't know summer wasn't her mother until after she died how is that any different not to mention with qrow's dangerous semblance and probably dangerous missions that might lead to salem or someone who has ties to salem going after qrow in the first place and a young daughter who so happens to have silver eye's like her mother would be a prime target and since season 3 how much rainbow and sunshine have you honestly seen. spoilers to those who haven seen volume 3 for some weird reason. with the death of pyrra and penny in volume 3 it really hasn't had the whole sunshine rainbows and frelling unicorns with what happend in episode 5 of this volume we also have added in freaking rotting corpse's so yea rwby pretty dark now and day's this also could be a way to give ruby more depth of character also how exaclty could you do better if you think they could do better.
It actuality does. I mean Tai's wife just left him and now he has to raise a daughter on his own. Summer comes along and helps out and they get close. Love can work in many way's to stories. It just seem's odd Qrow would be fine only being an uncle and not being called her dad. I know there's a little risk, but Qrow could still be viewed as her dad. As for that rainbow comment that wasn't about the series, it was more about the relationship. I don't think Ruby would take it well that everyone has been lying to her this whole time, for no real reason. So it could just end really bad for them. Even to a point where she doesn't trust anyone. I mean what's there to really hid? I'm sure everyone knows what Team Qrow was on. Even if they didn't know who he was married to, they could still attack them with or with them knowing. I still see it as a nut job plan, but that's just my viewpoint on it.
I love how everyone assuming Qrows actually Ruby's father. Even though their not much to even confirm it. However if it is true i'll pat you all on the back. But if it isn't, I do like your theory...
The reason its hard to believe that Qrow is ruby father is because of yang. I believe yang is two years older then ruby and she remembers summer as a super mom. She thought that summer was her birth mother until she died. For Qrow to be ruby father, summer had to cheat on taiyang or she was with Qrow for two years and left him for taiyang.
Everyone is saying Tai doesn't have to game to get with both his teammates. Consider the following: Raven was up to that point the love of his life and more than likely close with Summer. Raven decides to give up her life and team for her tribe. Tai is heartbroken, Summer is upset and they find comfort in each other's arms. Not necessarily romantic, a moment of grief and weakness. They didn't need to be in a relationship to have a kid, just a one night stand.
I really love this theory because it takes the evidence from the show and tries to put all of the evidence together with some thoughts on the characters
Qrow isn't Ruby's father. If he was he would be the biggest hypocrite on Remnant. He chews on Raven for not being there for Yang, yet is fine doing the same for Ruby? He gets upset toward Ozpin for having lied to him his entire life, and tell Ruby not to lie to Oscar to make feel better (when she didn't) because they're better than that, yet is fine with lying to Ruby about not being her father her entire life? And all of that after they already hide to Yang her birth mother left her when she was a newborn and that Summer wasn't her "real" mother? You'd think that'd teach him and Tai that lying to children about their parentage is not a good idea. Also: Summer and Ruby were already living with Tai and Yang long before Summer died. Did Qrow love Summer? Maybe. Does he see Ruby as the daughter he never had? Maybe. But Qrow isn't her father,
I can see your view, absolutely can but his semblence does make it harder to be with her as a father, so Tai basically takes on the role for him and could have possibly lied to her about it, besides several characters are hypocrites in the show
@James Schulte Except his Semblance isn't that bad. He has no problem living with team RNJR for a month in Mistral, fight a battle alongside them and WY, or taking a train with them to Argus. Or personally train Ruby incthe use of the a dangerous weapon. But sure. Let's say it's because of his Semblance. Then why lie? They didn't need to pretend in that case. Especially if thet's how he reacts to someone who lied to him to not burden him with the truth. And again, Ruby and Summer were already living with Tai and Yang for years before Summer died. It just doesn't work.
@@MrRemicas they are all trained fighters now and even then Qrow didn't want to stay with them at first, its a big difference between now and when ruby was a baby. and why lie, probably for the same reason they originally lied to Yang to A) not make her more upset and confused and B) to keep her from trying to go after Qrow when she was a child. and it works just fine if they came to this agreement when Summer learned that she was having Ruby. And Qrow being a hypocrite doesn't disprove the theory he's a human being he is capable of having flaws, and put yourself in his shoes do you really think he would have even thought about a lie told like 10 to 16 years ago when he blew up at Oz probably not
"He chews on Raven for not being there for Yang, yet is fine doing the same for Ruby? " It has already been said several times in the series that from time to time, Qrow spent time with Ruby throughout her life. (He was the one who trained her). He might not be with her all the time, but he certainly never abandoned Ruby, unlike what Raven did with Yang
Raven doesn't have a bad luck semblance. She has no good reason to not be there for her child, so if Qrow is Ruby's father, then in my eyes, it'd make sense if he tried to pose as her uncle instead. Wouldn't you want to protect your child from yourself if you had the power to bring bad luck? Besides, Qrow never outright left Ruby or Yang. Raven couldn't give enough of a shit to be there for Yang, which is why Qrow bags her. At least he made an effort to stay with Ruby instead of running away with his tail between his legs. The show also clearly states that he was there ever since Ruby was born, because if not, Yang and Ruby would have died to Grimm, as stated by Yang in the story she told to Blake in V2. And another thing. Qrow's lie to Ruby is nothing like the lies Ospin has told to everyone he knows and works with. If anyone were to tell Ruby that her real father is actually Qrow, it wouldn't shake her up like he is about Ozpin's lie. Qrow was given a purpose when working behind Ozpin, but to turn around and basically tell him, "No, you aren't moving towards a better cause. You're fighting for nothing." Besides, I feel like Ruby would take the news rather well considering how she's carrying herself this volume. I feel like she'd understand and not feel any spite towards anyone for doing this. She would probably just be disappointed though.
Good theory. But the real theory is that Tai had two love affairs. ruby's mother and yang's mother and qrow is ruby's uncle, and if qrow were ruby's father, ruby and yang would not be sisters but just friends.
I don’t care if Qrow isn’t ruby’s real dad . I feel he act more like dad to ruby than Taiyang. He was the one to teach ruby to fright ,and was the one to go after her when she ran alway. He deeply and truly cares for her. I always felt like Taiyang saw ruby as less important than yang for some reason. I always thought ruby and Qrow had a better relationship than ruby and Taiyang. I believe that Taiyang isn’t as good as a father as everyone says he is especially towards ruby. I know would be a better dad for ruby
Well u bring up some good points however, the show hasn't really shown Ruby and Tai together that much. There in 2 scene in total that the 2 have shared together. Besides I feel like your leaving out a few parts that showed that Tai really cares about Ruby. Who was near Ruby when she woke up after using SE? It was Tai. Qrow only showed up after words. Who told Ruby the location to go to which made her run away in the first place? Qrow. If anything Qrow was egging Ruby on to get her to run away in the first place. I feel the only reason why Tai didn't teach Ruby is because his style didn't work for her. If we look at Yang's it's dealing with power and taking hits. While Ruby's is about moving fast. Now I'm not saying your wrong, but Ruby and Tai haven't been given enough time to interact with one another to really show how their relationship is. I'm sure Tai treats Ruby the same way as he does Yang.
With the end of volume 8 this theory only seems more and more true, especially with his desperate calls for Ruby at the end of the volume, not yang and ruby... Just Ruby
I love your storytelling~! I honestly love this theory and the mystery whether Qrow is Ruby's father.. but i'm not ready for Yang and Ruby to be cousins, i still want them to be half-sisters.
Thanks so much! I completely get where you are coming from. I don't want Yang and Ruby's relationship to change and if Qrow does end up being Ruby's father, it might be awkward for a short while but I think they will still see each other as sisters
I'm just shocked that your getting attention and views but fans are not subscribing,I've Been hooked on your theories and idealogy towards rwby##TeamPheonix/Knight
Thank you so much for the kind words and support! It really means a lot to me. I'm glad people are watching the videos and if they don't subscribe right away, I'll just make more videos and theories to convince them 😁
What if Qrow getting dragged by Grimm arms is him falling into despair, and they try to get ruby (as we see) but she fights it. Maybe she finds out that Qrow is her dad and she begins falling into despair but she tries to fight it
I agree and think makes more sense. After all I always thought it was weird that Tai some how falls in love with two women that were on his same team, marries them both etc...I can understand if one of the woman actually dies (more so Raven who was the 1st Wife) but both women are alive plus I see no reason why Qrow wouldn't also at some point in his life fell for Summer right...so Qrow actually being Ruby's father makes sense since the series is mainly about people lying, keeping secrets, not telling the whole truth etc...
I believe this Theory, but in a different way. I believe summer rose was never married, qrow and her were dating and they woohooed one night, and the rubber broke. Ruby was a mistake, but she came out perfect. Ruby was the best thing his semblance gave to him. But, the moment Qrow found out she was pregnant, he ran. Summer was alone the entire pregnancy, alone with Yang and her father, a good friend. Ty and summer became closer and closer until they got together, they were going to get married. And then qrow came back. He lost his whole life because he was afraid. So he started to drink and watch after his daughter from a distance. Once summer died he became glued to ruby and started training her. And we know the rest
I just thought of sumn, awhile back, it was in a video where they said that Qrows semblance is bad luck but maybe if he changed his attitude on it, it could bring good luck or bad luck for anyone crossing him. To me this is kind a reminiscent of the character Zero from Megaman X, he believes he's a blight on the world and kinda hates himself for it, like he has no purpose, but in his final battle, he comes to terms with himself and it makes him stronger for it. I think everyone can relate to Qrow in a way. We all have sumn about ourselves that we hate/ don't like, it drags us down and holds us back from truly soaring, but when we EMBRACE that bad part of us, we become FAR better. Just like for the longest, the sentry in marvel HATED the void, but when he accepted his darker half and fused, he became FAR stronger.
Just a thought, I’m sure this will never happen but what if Summer’s last mission was with Qrow, because of his semblance, he accidentally got Summer killed, which caused him to leave Ruby with Tai so that it doesn’t happen to her too. And Ruby is the next Summer maiden because the original one was her mother
If this theory was true that would make Qrow the biggest hypocrite ever. I can see Qrow loving Summer but couldn't tell her because of him being afraid of hurting her later on. Me personally I believe that Tai his Ruby dad. After all CRWBY did say that Ruby was supposed to resemble Summer. Which is made apparent when Raven said that Ruby sound like her mother and by the only picture we have of Summer we see that Ruby also look like Summer. Qrow was also around alot from what's it seems which could be why Ruby acts like him some. Idk I just don't believe Qrow believe Ruby dad.
Yang shares the traits of tai and raven while ruby shares that of qrow and summer. Neither mother is in the picture when it comes to yang or ruby. Yet yang looks like a spitting image of both raven and tai. Similar skirt covering as raven, similar hair style, and tais hands on type fighting style clothing as well as the same fighting style as tai. All characters except ruby share color pattern with their parents as well. Ruby seems to be the only exception to this as she appears to share everything with summer and qrow. You dont see any connection between her and tai like you do the other characters. It also seems qrow took the death of summer harder than tai. Qrow semblance explains why he wouldnt want ruby to be around him as often especially with the missions he goes on. He is on the one who watches ruby, hes also the one who talks to ruby like after the fall of beacon. Either the writers got extremely lazy when designing this or they lied to surprise fans.
Maybe his upsetness isnt all its crakced up to be.... Its a 9 month period before a child can be born... If yang and ruby are only 2 years apart.. That would be 1 year and 3 months between raven leaving and summer appearing in his life.... I wonder how much he could actually give a damn about her seeing as how she got pregnant literally a year after raven left... Seems to move too fast to me to mean anything....
After seeing the scene with Ruby at home after the fall of beacon, where Qrow asks Tai to leave so he can speak with Ruby alone, I was like: mmk, wut? Ever since then I’ve suspected, and then hearing him talk about Summer in volume 7 I’m almost convinced.
Still till now almost 14th of april 2021 ill never stop believing the qrow is ruby's father no matter what monty saod if its not debunked by the series itself i wont stop supporting it
I love this video, but qrow is not Ruby’s father. When you talk about how back in volume 2 when yang has the flashback of her trying to find her mother with ruby and qrow saves them, I feel like he was there for mainly ruby, but not for the reason you think. I believe he was there because of her silver eyes. Really think about. Pretty much everything qrow does for ruby is because of her silver eyes, not because she is his daughter. Why was he there in season 4? To protect her because people are trying to kill her because of her silver eyes. And as for her not being anything like Tai, she actually is. They are both wise and have the same personality. Yang gets his looks, Ruby gets his wisdom and mind. It makes sense. I do believe qrow is in despair from summers death, but not because they were lovers. I think they were just really good friends. That’s it.
Okay, everyone else in the comments has already covered the many reasons people believe and love this theory... So let me just point out that there is literally no ironclad way for the theory to be disproved. Word of god? Rebecca Sugar lied about Rose Quartz being Pink Diamond. George Lucas lied to everyone- including the actors- about the Vader twist. Word of characters? This theory is built on the fact that they lie. Actual visual confirmation in series? They could show Tai and Summer fucking and it still wouldn’t actually disprove the theory. DNA test within the show? Again, people lie, results can be faked. Also, as this video shows, Qrow as Ruby’s dad is a much more meaningful story than if it were Tai. Edit: to be clear, I’m in full support of this theory and just find people’s efforts to combat it amusing. You can’t fight theories or headcanons.
I like to think that the traits of a person who possess silver eyes is probably the one to pass down their traits as dominant hints why ruby would look alot alike her mom more than a mix of tai and summer unlike how yang looks more like a mixture of Tai and Raven. But we are talking the "Silver eyes" which might have some kind of relation to magic in some way and magic does weird things.
I never thought of that I never Think that Qrow is Ruby's Dad,I seen RWBY when I was 13 but I'm still 13 but when you look at Qrow and Ruby's relationship Their have a Father and Daughter Time together
Here’s what I think: Summer and Qrow had affairs, but Qrow never knew he got Summer pregnant, and Summer never told him If you try to call this irrational/unreasonable, you obviously do not know how often this situation happens in the real world. Anyway, Qrow and Ruby have a special connection, Tai and Ruby don’t. This isn’t 100% solid, but it is a lot less common for an uncle/aunt have a stronger special connection to his/her niece/nephew than their mother/father, if their parent has one with their child at all. I know a case in my family that negates this point, except the fact that, as my uncle had a special connection with my sister, my mom had that same connection with his daughter, and I think that point has valid significance. That said, you see the connection Taiyang and Yang have, you see the connection Ghira and Blake have, not so much Weiss because her dad doesn’t give a damn of his children... but Klein was Weiss’ father figure and they have a special connection. Ruby and Qrow have a father/daughter relationship, but they don’t know that they really are I feel like there is so much supporting this theory of Qrow is Ruby’s Dad. That said, it isn’t a valid plot point in the current arc, and should honestly be avoided until this arc concludes, unless they find a clever way to tie it in without shoehorning it in, like Ruby asking Jinn about the history of Silver Eyes (it has to involve Jinn in some way, tho)
@@fanamatakecick97 Tai was taking care of her while she was in a coma and she was excited about mail from him in Vol 2. That's definitely connection. Again Tai has such low screentime we don't see it enough.
something i noticed recently- in the photo of team STRQ, it is shown that qrow is holding his sword with his left hand!! this may mean he is left handed (ruby is also left handed), although it isn’t really plausible since we don’t know if summer or taiyang was at all due to their ambidextrous-ness with fighting and all. just a thought ! :)
qrow: well kiddo im your dad ruby: welp ive seen the theorys so..... ik yang; FUCKING CALLED IT blake: wait we were supposed to think you weren't her dad? weiss: no shit.... qrow: well damn....
One flaw. Salem cannot be killed but she can be defeated. She must learn the importance of life and death; only then can she rest. The way to defeat her once and for all is not physical but mental.
Another thing to keep in mind is Summer and Qrow's colors. Summer is always associated with red, but her hood and cape is white. Meanwhile, Qrow wears primarily white colors, but has a _red cape._ It's an odd ying-yang symbolism, especially when you consider that they're the only members of Team STRQ that wore capes. And who else wears a cape, that has also become tattered much like Qrow's? Ruby Rose.
Characters looking alike can be circumstantial evidence, Im fine with that. It makes perfect sense that Ruby Idolizes him and imitates his style. What doesnt make sense (and gives this theory legs for me) is that it wouldnt make any sense for Tai, Raven, and Summer to have the relationship they did. Tai was with Raven and had a child (Yang), and then Raven left to do mission stuff or just F off cause why not. But then LESS THAN 2 YEARS LATER, Tai and Summer get together and then Ruby is born 9 months later. Qrow being her father just makes more sense and would have been a great side story.
I swear to god, I know the writing direction has changed due to Monty's passing, but I still want this to be a thing. Why else is there an old bottle stain on Summer's side of the picture? Plus, there's no other explanation as to why Qrow trained her instead of Tai.
Im just gonna say Qrow's behavior towards Ruby and his behavior towards Yang are kinda different. To me anyways. I mean if he's their uncle, why does he seem more caring to Ruby?? I believe in the Qrow is Ruby's dad theory, but if it turns out that he's not, im not gonna be upset. Also i don't believe in the whole debunking thing. Monty has mentioned several times that color schemes, eyes, and names are important. I find it odd that Ruby doesn't have any color on her that ties her to Tai, ya kno what i mean
I know this video is pretty old but one thing i don't see enough is the fact that qrow trained ruby, not tai. if tai was ruby's only father figure it would make sense he'd train both girls since he is a hunter, but qrow went out of his way to train ruby and not yang. sure he could just be doing this as an uncle thing but it's pretty suspicious he'd train ruby specifically. the fact that ruby mentions it a lot shows how much time they did spend together, at least once she was old enough to defend herself against qrow's bad luck semblance. also everyone talks about how tai doesn't have enough "game" to get with both girls on his team and while i believe that, it's also important to note that it would be out of tai's character to move on so fast. He's obviously still hurt by raven leaving him and yang, to the point where yang talks about how he never talked about her mom and she basically thought summer was her mom. It would be strange for him to quickly jump to summer. plus it's obvious that while both tai and qrow are upset over summers death, qrow is SIGNIFICANTLY more distressed and it would make sense if that's where his alcoholism stems from.
It could explain Tai's obvious distaste towards Qrow. Summer and Qrow got together in a short term relationship where she got pregnant and to spare Tai more emotional grief from Raven leaving she left Qrow on the promise that he NEVER reveals who the father is
I totally agree with this theory. And for those of you that keep whining about Monty debunking it? Why the hell would he say otherwise? That would be a huge spoiler for the show and take the suspense and drama out of it. Steven Universe kept debunking the theory about Pink Diamond, and look how that ended. I'm not saying that this theory is certainty, but the evidence given, especially with other creators lying to audiences to not spoil big surprises, is really damning.
Not much evidence is in the show to support this. But having Qrow revealing he is Ruby's real father would be a huge bombshell and good character development for both of them. So i salute you on this theory sir!
I like all of your points, very good, though the only disagreement I have is I think Qrow does care about yang, but it seems like he feels she can care for herself well, which makes his obvious overprotective nature over ruby more logical if he is her dad, cause dads do trust their daughters (if they're a good dad that is) but they still feel protective
No I totally disagree. Qrow has no idea he ever fathered a child. He truly believes he is just their (Rwby and Yang) Uncle. Ty accepted Summer`s advances that were timed to obscure who really fathered Rwby, but I imagine he has his suspicions. Summer Rose is is the only person who ever knew fathered Rwby!
I was hoping this theory would have died with the theories that Oz is a crazy super villain. There are so many things wrong with this idea, I don't get why people don't see it. One of my biggest problems with the whole theory is, Why would anyone do this? Why would Summer leave Qrow to go live with Tai? None of that makes any scenes. Couldn't they still have lived as a family and Qrow just leaves every now and again. Why would you move in with a male friend and act like a family with him? Does no one see how messed up that is? Also Qrow is still allowed to see her, even thou he is bad luck. I'm not even sure if you were paying attention to the show? Everything u said, was all wrong. To Qrow living with Summer and Ruby, to him not caring about if Yang died. Ruby and Qrow don't even look a like. What do they have that show's they are similar? Ruby how more traits with her mom and we've only seen her face. If anything I want this season to put a true end to this theory.
If the theory isn't true than Taiyang isn't a very good father to Ruby. He clearly has a favourite child Yang. Ruby also doesn't seem to have adopted any personality traits from Taiyang so he must be a terrible father. Ruby, isn't told by Taiyang what happened at beacon and about her silver eye's it Qrow who tells her and not Taiyang who is her father. It should've been her father who tells her this and not her uncle. In volume 4 Ruby has technically runaway from home and is on a dangerous mission, Yang isn't really in much danger but Ruby is and yet he doesn't even go searching for his daughter. Meanwhile Ruby's uncle Qrow, makes sure she's safe. If he wasn't her father, then he is doing a good job of appearing as a father figure, but a terrible job at being a father to Ruby because Taiyang is definitely closer to Yang than Ruby.
If Ruby knew from a young, that Qrow was her real father. Summer Rose was dead, and she wasn't being raised by her own father, almost as though he didn't love her. Yang wasn't her actual sister yet somehow they were raised as if they were. Taiyang tried to be a father to Ruby, but he didn't give her the same attention as his actual daughter. So Ruby always felt alone and had no one who actually cared for her, even if Yang was close to her she wasn't her actual sister. Ruby probably wouldn't of become a huntresses because they are never there for their children. She'd see them in a different light and not in the light they give hope. She'd grow to have more resentment towards Qrow since he was never around. And when he was, she'd never understand why he wasn't there for her when her mother died.
Its whack to me that people don't see that. There is so much just design wise that doesn't make sense that are like that for every other character. Every character looks like both of their parents in some way. And ruby just looks like her mom???? Whack
They said Tai is Ruby's father and Yang is her sister. But honestly: They didn't say BLOOD RELATED father and sister. So they might be father and sister in heart.
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U have a point🤔
Monty did say that "they're half sister's" back when people asked him about it. But I'd counter that with RWBY has an amazing history with retcons and Summer as a character was only written in on a whim. I say retcon it and make Qrow the dad. It could add SO MUCH interesting idea's for the show instead of Summer have no sense of girl code and banged her friend's baby daddy.. then was killed by Salem.
If only it wasn't confirmed that Qrow wasn't Ruby's dad
@@mayawhitten-desroches9800 By who the writer's?.. Yeah they've never contradicted themselves before in the past... nope... NOT.. EVER lol.
This theory could be proven in team RWBYs V7 outfits. Weiss’ outfit is based off Winter, Blake’s is Kali, and Yangs is Tai, all a parental figure in their life. So why would Ruby’s outfit be based off Qrow? (Especially her hair being spiky like his.).
Woah, I never thought of that before. You might be getting somewhere with that
She never knew Summer and learned everything about her fighting style from Qrow. Makes sense that she'd take after him in terms of appearance and style. Doesn't mean he's her father but more of a respect to my teacher and my elder that I admire because we know she loves him to death. I HOPE he is her father because from a writing perspective it's a like being taken to a BANK of idea's with no withdraw limit.
Maybe qrow got summer pregnant after they break up 💔 an summer fall for Tai
As a fellow believer of the "Qrow is Ruby's dad" theory, I really like this video. I'll comment some evidence I believe in. There's more evidence to support this theory, such as the one I figured out in volume 4. In volume 4, all the RWBY girls spend time with their fathers. Weiss is stuck with her jerk of a father in Atlas. Blake goes back home to reconnect with her parents, and has an emotional talk with her father. Yang stays at home with Tai, also having one on one father-daughter time and bonding. Meanwhile...Ruby is with Qrow...How can this pattern with the other girls be just a coincidence? If all the girls were with their fathers, then Ruby being with Qrow in volume 4 completes the pattern. There is also family patterns to consider as well. Example: Yang looks like Raven, but has Tai's color schemes (yellow). Ren looks like his father, but has his mother's color schemes (mainly the pink). For Weiss and Blake, they look like both parents because both have the same color schemes (Jacques adopted the Schnee family color scheme). If we follow the pattern, Ruby looks like Summer, but has Qrow's color schemes. If they go so far to input this family color pattern for Yang, but not for Ruby despite them supposedly sharing the same father, then to me it makes no sense unless Qrow is her real father. Not only is Qrow's semblance a factor in the theory as to why he couldn't raise his daughter himself...and not only is the resemblance Ruby and Qrow present, but I agree with you that the alcoholism and despair more than likely stems from Summer's death. It just makes more logical sense. Tai was with Raven, Qrow was with Summer. Tai and Raven have Yang, Raven splits; Qrow and Summer have Ruby over a year later. Qrow realizes he can't carry the relationship on because of his semblance and leaves, knowing their daughter would be better off without his bad luck. Summer and Tai, both without their partners, are left to raise their children together, and they make them sisters. Summer then dies, and Tai has to make sure both children grow up safe, especially Ruby since she cannot find out about her real dad and why she was left behind with Tai. It makes more sense than Tai magically getting both girls on his team, leaving Qrow lonely and left out. It just doesn't feel right. Tai isn't THAT charismatic, and moving on from one woman to the next, after he had a child with the first one, makes no sense...If he had a kid with Raven, there's no way he could move on fast enough to have a kid with Summer. And Summer moving in on Tai after Raven leaves also sounds scummy. And there is no way Summer would be a cheater if she and Tai were actually together to be with Qrow, so the only real answer is Summer was ALWAYS with Qrow, and Ruby is their child. Safe logic.
@@dragonborn7955 still doesn't explain the patterns i mentioned. unless the writing is so bad that they unintentionally make these patterns which is kinda dumb. i am sick of people like you who don't even want to talk about the theory and just shut it down.
@@dragonborn7955 I dont believe in authorial intent and in this case death of the author is quite literal.
You do have a point with patterns but I still don't buy the theory, Let me explain regardless of what the creators say. When Yang was having her talk with Blake back in V2 she spoke as if she clearly remembered Summer and how her Death messed Tai up, meaning Tai and Summer had to have been together for quite some time that Yang considered Summer as her mom. Other point is that Qrow was part of Ruby's life because he taught at Signal and taught Ruby how to use a Scythe, plus he was mentioned from the first episode, Ruby and Yang talk as if they met him, not as if they simply heard stories from Tai because when Qrow fought Winter Ruby immediately recognized him. Another issue I have with this theory is the "lie" because to me it makes no sense because I see no reason for it, I get that Qrow's semblance brings misfortune and they want to keep Ruby safe and all but I get why they would tell her its her "uncle". The reason why I say this is because Yang knows who her actual mom is even though Raven left when she was still a baby and clearly didn't visit. So why lie to Ruby? Why tell Yang who her real mother is but not Ruby? Why not tell her Qrow's her father but because of his semblance he doesn't want to put her in any danger. It seems much more easier than saying "that's your uncle". If Qrow was never mentioned or was talked about as if they only heard stories of him, and Ruby and Yang met him for the first time in V3 I'd support this theory but there are to many holes for it to be concrete. I believe Qrow loved Summer and her death drove him to alcoholism and he spends time with Ruby because she reminds him of Summer and he treats her like a daughter cause he doesn't want to lose her like he did Summer. Now I also find believe TAIYANG got both his female teammates but then again we don't know what he was like during his younger days, maybe he had that Harem protagonist charm who knows. Now I'm just giving you my reasons for not supporting the theory because I do see what you're saying and I did believe it at some point but the more I thought about it the more I lost faith. Don't see this as an attack or trying to belittle you, it is just the opinions of one RWBY fan to another✌
@@erraticprofessional5404 If people pretend to be something for 7 years they will become what they are pretending to be unless that something is completely incompatible with there original identity. I think they told Yang that Raven is her mother to ease the pain of losing Summer.
@@gunarsmiezis9321 It still doesn't mean Ruby should've been left in the dark. They still could've told her the truth. I understand it might've been to much for her, knowing her mother is dead and her father can't be around her but Qrow was for around for most of her life I assume. Ruby clearly knows the duties of huntsmen so she would understand Qrow's absence and why she had to be with Tai, so I still see no reason to lie
I still believe that Qrow is Ruby's father, BUT literally no one knows about it. Summer took it to her grave.
I just had that thought!!!
Qrow being Ruby's dad is the theory I believe in the strongest over any other theory. It's too perfect. The way everything has been established, it would honestly seem to make less sense if otherwise. Seriously, look at Yang and Tai and Raven, then look at Ruby and Tai. RT has established family ties more through interactions than word say. But that's just my thought anyway.
That scene in the opening with Qrow being kidnapped really did a good job of foreshadowing without giving too much detail if it does turn out that way. What's interesting is that they're just taking him and not attacking him. Here are my guesses:
Salam sees that Qrow has felt betrayed by Ozpin and is trying to take him to her realm to either steal info on him or turn one of Ozpin's greatest allies against him.
Or
Qrow in his very depressed state wishes for death without fear, and that attracks the Grimm in a different manner. Perhaps absolute lack of fear is the first step to taming the Grimm, like Cinder has shown at the end of volume 3.
@yeh uda why are you typing like that????
At the very least, Qrow had a thing for Summer.
Qrow: Well kiddo, I'm your real dad...
Ruby: wah... Uncle Qrow your my...
Qrow: Sorry I've kept it from you for so long-
Ruby: Uncle Qrow- Dad~!
Qrow: Ugh!
Ruby: Dad what is it?!
Qrow: its my- my *holds chest*
Ruby: YOUR HEART?! are you ok!
Qrow: *grabs flask, drinks*
This needs to happen lol
Anna Lialine please let this happen. I may not fully support this theory but dear god do I want to.
@@masterofthelyokianmonsters2886yeah I definetly do
Lazy Chaotic Good this needs to be apart of the show and the button part so much likes Qrow
Even if this theory has been shot down, I still love this theory more than any other theory in the show. I appreciate that you made this video, not a lot of people post anything around this theory in fear of being ridiculed for liking it.
Why do so many people think Monty told the truth about Ruby and Yang being half-sisters? Why can't he lie to hide the twist later?
Also, why are we taking the statement so literally? If they end up being cousins would Ruby and Yang not still consider each other as siblings in their hearts?
People adopt family relations to each other without a blood requirement. It isn't a convincing counter-argument to the theory because I would have said the same.
Thank you, it's always nice to find like minded people 😊
I'd have to agree. I just rewatched every episode from the beginning and there's some huge clues that go beyond looks and fighting styles. i mean kids change their appearances to be like their favorite role model's all the time. but it wouldn't be uncommon for qrow to have split the moment Summer said she was pregnant with Ruby and Tai having yang as a baby at the time would've took her in. and over time feel in love before she died.
the big clue i found was the end of volume 3. Tai doesn't really put much of a fight when Qrow wants to speak with Ruby. He's concerned about the topic but leaves anyway. then Qrow starts telling Ruby about Silver eyes. he said and i quote "You're special, Ruby. and not in the daddy loves his special angel kind of way."
sure its pretty suddal but how he tends to stick close by to Ruby and how Tai refuses to chase after Ruby when she leaves. i honestly think that yo keep everyone in suspension RT will deny it.
@@FoxKitty92 that actually makes since
@@FoxKitty92 especially considering he is actually Yang's uncle and not Ruby's #Qrowurthefather
@@eren34558 well Rebecca sugar from Steven Universe lied about rose quartz being pink diamond
The show expects me to belive that tai was that hot and that charismatic that he scored both chicks on his team? How has he not remarried yet? If hes that much of a lady killer why doesn't he have multiple ladies trying to get with him? That or Summer got with him out of pity because she felt sorry for yang. Or she and raven were closer than were lead to belive and she promised her she'd take care of her daughter. Now THAT would be more interesting. But I do like the "Qrow is Ruby's real dad" idea. Because if not, that means summer zoned in on tai the SECOND raven left. Which means she's not as sweet and innocent as she's potrayed by others.
No that was just tai's goal was to impregnate everyone on the team first with raven then summer and then finally with qrow.
Lunar Robot, I love the Qrow is Summer’s real dad theory. But if Tai is father of both... perhaps Summer always had feelings for Tai. Raven, Tai described as a complicated woman.
Her tribe raised the Branwen twins, Raven and Qrow, to become spies and learn to become huntsmen killers. For that kind of programming to influence a mother she had to leave her daughter to return to them goes really deep. Because one twin, Qrow, stayed.
Raven is perhaps the more susceptible to the tribe, the more conflicted, and team STRQ probably suspected that. Qrow may have been more rejected by the tribe because of his semblance bringing the tribe as well misfortune - so the tribe would have considered Raven far more of a loss than Qrow and perhaps praised snd influenced her more.
To me... his semblance saved him here.
"But I do like the 'Qrow is Ruby's real dad' idea. Because if not, that means Summer zoned in on Tai the SECOND Raven left. Which means she's not as sweet and innocent as she's portrayed by others." --> Thank you for stating that! It's this very reason why I think others shouldn't quickly dismiss the idea that Qrow could be Ruby's father. Even though Miles confirmed on Reddit that Qrow isn't Ruby's father, I don't think they fully realize what a jerk they made Summer into. Especially since she's supposed to be so noble and an equivalent to Ruby. Like another fan said, Summer would've had roughly 14 months to get with Tai and be pregnant by him. Isn't that a bit fast??? Raven may be a jerk, but to forget about her in a short amount of time would testify how close Tai really was to her. That also contradicts Yang's argument to Raven about how Tai still spoke fondly of her.
I too think that it would fit with all the stuff we got until now. Yes, Miles and Kerry said on multiple occasions that Tai IS Rubys real father, but there are still many things that hint otherwise. It would also fit with the lyrics of Bad Luck Charm where Qrow says "You don't want the burden of my name". Ruby has Summer's last name, so that makes sense. But even if Qrow isn't Ruby's father, he IS a father figure for her and the two of them share a great bond.
I totally agree with you that Qrow is one of RWBY's most tragic characters. I think hee wants to protect Ruby, so she doesn't have to share the same fate her mother had. But he can't really do that with his semblance, he puts her in more danger when he is around.
His reaction to all the stuff in the last episode was very justified in my opinion. He gave his life and his hope to something he thought was right, only to learn that it was all for nothing. It was all a big lie.
You mean ruby will have to die in the end???
I agree with you about almost everything, except the part about Qrow being Ruby's dad. I do agree that He Loved Summer, but I think he kept it to himself and never actually confessed his love to her. He probably was afraid he might cause her harm with his semblance if he DID confess his love and the two grew closer. I do think he turned to Alcohol after Summer's death and I also believe that is was his love of Summer that made him stay with Ozpin when Raven Broke with the team and left. But the death of Summer meant that the only thing Qrow could hang on to is the Mission, the work with Ozpin. And now this is shattered.
Agreed, even if Qrow is not Ruby's father, a lot of thing can still hold true with this theory. And he will need Ruby to help stabilize his life which is now crumbling around him
I've thought *the logic that Qrow could be Ruby's father* to be crystal clear for years now....
I always thought Qrow was Ruby's father since we met Tai Yang. Simply because while the resemblance between Qrow and Ruby us stronger then the one between her and Tai. Tai Yang doesn't seem like the friend hopping type. He seems like he's always loved Raven and still does. Him falling for Summer and having a kid with her AFTER having Yang with Raven never made sense to me. He doesn't seem like the type to do so. Plus Qrow has been stalking Ruby as far back as when her and yang got attacked by grim as kids. He followed her around for season 4 and popped up when tyrian came. And honestly he favorites Ruby over Yang. You can tell. His and yang's relationship hasn't been flushed out as much as Ruby's and his has.
@@dragonborn7955 Rest his soul but Monty died a long while ago. And CRWBY is running the shots now. They could take it in that direction if they wanted. It wouldnt be a big deal to retcon something someone said before season 3 especially if they are no longer working on the project. Plus no one would be surprised if he was
Tai also favors Ruby over Yang.
@@MrRemicas I dont really see it that way. I feel like he watches her closer BECAUSE she isnt his real daughter. Plus she's younger then Yang and Yang had shown COUNTLESS times that she doesn't need anyone's help to protect herself. Ruby on the other hand is strong of course but she's still a child. And has shown that she does need help from time to time. That's not to say Yang is invincible. But out of everyone on team RWBY (other then Blake) she's shown she's fully capable without the team. And even Blake needed the help of Adam and later Son. Yang cleared a club full of thugs, she actually the first person we see fight a Grim in the series, and she took down most of Raven's men later in the volume with little to no effort at all. Ruby is defenseless without her Scythe (but slowly getting better with that) and she's the youngest. Tai would pay more attention to her because her mother and father both left her to him. Plus If my daughters were Yang and Ruby I'd honestly be more concerned about Ruby also. Yang is most literally an adult at this point.
Don't forget the night Beacon Tower fell and Ruby used her eyes and him knowing what Ozpin had said to her that night. :]
@@selever1527 he knows because he works with Ozpin.
That conversation also illustrate my point. Tai choose to wait for Ruby to wake up, by her bed, in her bedroom, while Yang was in the guest room. Then he tried ti chnge subject when Ruby seemed to not remember using her silver eyes, and was really pissed when Qrow asked him to get out.
Qrow, however, was all business. He debriefed her, sure talked about her silver eyes, then pretty much gave her instructions for the rest (the ennemy is going to Mistral, rest a bit, don't go there alone). And he did use her as a bait, since his Semblance wasn't an issue when staying with the group in Mistral, fight alongside them at Haven, or right now as he is travelling with them.
People in the comments saying that this theory has been debunked. I Dont think Roosterteeth would be inclined to respond honestly to this theory. If I went back to 1980 and asked george lucas if Vader was lukes father he would say "No", because it would be a HUGE spoiler.
Im not saying that qrow is definately ruby's father, but just because youve been told that he isnt doesnt mean he is not.
And if they contined to ignore the question, their silence would speak volumes anyway
Frisky Frost Im not saying its a reason to follow the theory, im saying that it is a reason to not rule it out as a possibility
Thats how i see it and same point of view for the star wars topic, and lying keeps the Theories off of there backs if they just say yes or no
@@cinnamonpail7395 exactly
@Frisky Frost how the hell is that logic stupid? It's almost exactly what Lucas would have done. Why spoil one of the most iconic twists??
@@eren34558 some have became honest some haven't thats how it is
Qrow's deepest darkest secret is that him and summer where unsure about having a child in this world but then one night.....
MORE EVIDENCE!!! Remember when Qrow was playing games with Ruby and Yang and he pulled out an old picture of team STRQ? well if you zoom in and look at the picture closely you can see what looks like teardrop stains all over the picture, and also a big circle around summer! Also take note that he carries it everywhere with him. And the teardrops indicate that he must have been saddened by the picture because he misses someone dearly.. Tai and Raven are still alive, he can see them anytime, so why would he cry over them? Summer is the only one in the picture who is gone. I also don’t think Qrow is the type of guy to cry easily, unless someone he cared DEEPLY for was gone.
I totally believe this theory! Tai looks absolutely nothing like Ruby... and even if Yang is not Ruby’s biological sister, she would still be her cousin. Raven is Qrow’s sister. Plus they would always be sisters by heart.
And about the creators saying that Tai is definitely Ruby’s father, why would they say otherwise?? That’s a HUGE spoiler!!!
Anyway that’s what I think lol.
Thank you for reading this SUPER long comment and I hope you have an amazing day 😊
The circle around Summer was probably a cup stain, just FYI
Everyone saying that CRWBY debunked this: they could very well legally be half sisters with Tai being Ruby's legal guardian and not her blood father.
And also it would be very difficult for Qrow to disclose that because it would be world shattering for Ruby. From episode one Ruby and Yang have been super close, and there for each other. All of that would have been a lie. If he does tell her, then Ruby wont be able to forgive him as easily.
But, playing the devil's advocate, I've always had this idea that Summer's semblance was good luck, so they cancelled each other out and she was the only person that Qrow could safely be around. Theres absolutely no evidence behind this but I think it would be pretty cool.
Exactly, thank you for pointing that out.
That's an interesting theory of Summer's semblance, it would also imply that Qrow and Summer would be a perfect match for each other. I really like that. Thanks for commenting!
Dont forget, qrow left the tribe. Raven said it in volume 4 that qrow turned his back on his tribe, and he said because they were killers and thefts and raven calls him a traitor because the tribe raised them like family.
Have you guys heard of the small theory by Eruption Fang I think called the "Qrow killed Summer Rose" that would add like a whole other layer to the "Qrow is Ruby's dad". Obviously it wouldn't have been intentional just...watch the video! It's great.
This whole video seems like a kid in ap English making a story about a deep dark edgy boi who is so deep so their English teacher gives them a good grade on a test
Haha thank you!
I think Qrow and Summer had the same relationship that Snape and Lily had in the Harry potter series.
Sarina Alexa, that makes a lot of sense. Qrow and Tai being die-hard friends makes it all the more heartfelt.
When 1st watching, some things always stood out. When Qrow kicked Tai out the room to talk to Ruby. Color scheme. They both wear crosses (Tai and yang does not). Qrow explained silver eyes to Ruby's just like the Grim reaper's fad taught her. BUT THE NUMBER ONE THING IS... why didn't Tai train Ruby?
Honestly, I’ve been holding out for this exact theory. I would *love* to see the father-daughter relationship develop and see how Qrow and Ruby respond to this secret coming to light. EDIT: There is a lyric in Bad Luck Charm that says, “You and I are not the same; you don’t want the burden of my name.” That line gets me every time, and I honestly would love to see what that has to do with their relationship.
I have to say, this IS a compelling argument toward the possibility of Qrow being Ruby's dad. Not saying I'm with or against it, but anything is possible and as you pointed out... His semblance would be a KEY reason for why he left Ruby with Tai and began this lie of being an uncle to protect her.
Yet, if this is true... I feel nothing but pity for Qrow even more. Knowing despite all his efforts, he not only failed to find ANY justification for his semblance he sees as his curse that hurts everyone he loves, but he also failed to protect Ruby from Salem. All this time he would've been fighting Salem in hopes of giving Ruby the future Qrow and Summer both would've wanted Ruby to have, safe and free from living in a constant battle against an unending army of grimm, as well as the terrifying witch who can control them.
My theory is that Qrow and Summer were in a relationship. Something went terribly wrong and blaming himself, and perhaps his semblance, he walks away leaving Summer heartbroken. This is around the same time Raven leaves Taiyang and baby Yang. Summer and Taiyang find comfort in each other and start a relationship and have Ruby. Eventually Qrow comes back into Yang and Ruby's life, showing much affection for Ruby since she is the daughter of the love of his life.
I still don't buy the theory, Let me explain regardless of what the creators say. When Yang was having her talk with Blake back in V2 she spoke as if she clearly remembered Summer and how her Death messed Tai up, meaning Tai and Summer had to have been together for quite some time that Yang considered Summer as her mom. Other point is that Qrow was part of Ruby's life because he taught at Signal and taught Ruby how to use a Scythe, plus he was mentioned from the first episode, Ruby and Yang talk as if they met him, not as if they simply heard stories from Tai because when Qrow fought Winter Ruby immediately recognized him. Another issue I have with this theory is the "lie" because to me it makes no sense because I see no reason for it, I get that Qrow's semblance brings misfortune and they want to keep Ruby safe and all but I don't get why they would tell her its her "uncle". The reason why I say this is because Yang knows who her actual mom is even though Raven left when she was still a baby and clearly didn't visit. So why lie to Ruby? Why tell Yang who her real mother is but not Ruby about her real father? Why not tell her Qrow's her father but because of his semblance he doesn't want to put her in any danger. It seems much more easier than saying "that's your uncle". If Qrow was never mentioned or was talked about as if they only heard stories of him, and Ruby and Yang met him for the first time in V3 I'd support this theory but there are to many holes for it to be concrete. I believe Qrow loved Summer and her death drove him to alcoholism and he spends time with Ruby because she reminds him of Summer and he treats her like a daughter cause he doesn't want to lose her like he did Summer. Now I also find it difficult to believe TAIYANG got both his female teammates but then again we don't know what he was like during his younger days, maybe he had that Harem protagonist charm who knows. Now I'm just giving you my reasons for not supporting the theory because I do see what you're saying and I did believe it at some point but the more I thought about it the more I lost faith.
@James Schulte With Qrow's semblance I doubt he would be in a relationship with someone knowing he is constantly putting them in danger. I do however believe he loved Summer, and he treats Ruby like a daughter because she reminds him of Summer and he feels as long as Ruby's alive Summer is never truly gone
Sorry for tying this to Frozen. But the same logic could be applied to Anna. Why did Anna's parents keep Elsa's powers a secret to Anna? Wasn't Anna mature enough to handle that secret? The answer is: To protect Anna. The same can be said for Ruby. Qrow didn't necessarily want to be out of Ruby's life completely, he just didn't want to take on the burden of being a father in fear of failing Ruby due to his semblance. Being Ruby's teacher or playing the "uncle" role is not a full-time job. (By the way, it's not unusual for a close friend of the family to be called "uncle" or "aunt" in spite of not being blood-related. In addition, Qrow would truly be an uncle to Yang, at least.) That is something he could handle. After all, he still has to work with others as a team in spite of his semblance. If he wanted to run away, he might as well ran away from everyone so as not to give them bad luck. But Qrow never did that. He still wants to contribute to the battle against Salem.
Personally, I don't believe this theory has that many plot holes. A fan figured that Summer would have to have roughly 14 months to get pregnant by Tai since Ruby and Yang are two years apart. For Summer to get married and pregnant (Whatever which way it goes.) in that short amount of time would make Summer a jerk. That is because it would've meant that she was quick to get with Tai after he tragically lost Raven. Summer and Raven were supposed to have been friends. An action like that is below the belt even if Raven is a jerk! I'm not saying that this theory HAS to be true. But it seems that Rooster Teeth is not paying enough attention to how they're making their characters look. Summer would appear nobler if she was pregnant with Qrow's child, not Tai's. Which is how she's described.
But I do agree with you about Summer living with Tai as Ruby's and Yang's mother. But that doesn't mean she didn't have a past with Qrow. Maybe Summer fought with Qrow about raising Ruby and lost the argument. I could easily see Tai volunteering to help Summer with her pregnancy and who knows what happened then.
This is the only theory that I believe in and love. It makes RWBY so much more interesting and would allow ruby to have more character development.
What do you mean by "more" just character development in general
@@brodybenton-haskins9720 you are right she doesnt even has character development
I've always enjoyed the Qrow is Ruby's dad theory because it adds more depth to Qrow's character and it wouldn't ruin any familial bonds with Yang as instead of being sisters, she and Ruby would instead be first cousins. It would also explain why Ruby doesn't look even a tiny bit like Ty, even her colour scheme is very similar to Qrow's.
Besides, doesn't Qrow and Summer being in a relationship and having a child makes a lot more sense than Ty being with Raven, having a child, Raven leaving, and then one year later he's knocked up Summer?
All the buthurt people in the comments.... It's a THEORY for heaven's sake! Even if they debunked it I still stand by it! That isn't going to stop the fandom from discussing this theory more and more.
This is a hill I would gladly die on because it makes far too much sense. When you look at the Belladonnas and the Schnees, both families look like they're related. But Ruby looks nothing like Yang or Tai which has only strengthened my belief in this theory. Character design is extremely specific and important in RWBY so the fact that Ruby actually looks like Qrow and nothing like Tai has to mean something.
Or Ruby inherited more of her moms traits?
@@animedude8712 I think you're missing the point that Yang clearly looks like both Tai and Raven but Ruby looks nothing like Tai at all. Not his eye color, not his hair color, none of it at all.
Steven Grossman True, but Ruby has no similarities with Qrow. Her hair and eyes are from her mother.
@@animedude8712 her hair may not look exactly like Qrow's now but you can't tell me a much younger Qrow wouldn't have had dark hair not too dissimilar to Ruby's. It's clear his hair has some gray in it so it's not the same as we see them now and it's still much closer than if she was biologically Tai's daughter.
Steven Grossman You bring up a good point. However, we’ve never seen a younger looking Qrow. There is the picture and it does seem a bit black, but it’s not enough.
My main problem with this theory is just how bonkers and insane it is.
They say that Tai is supposed to be Ruby and Yang's father, but it makes no sense he'd have a daughter with Raven, and Then have a daughter with Summer almostly exactly 2 years later. Even Ruby and Yang weren't blood related, they'd still love each other dearly.
I wont believe Tai landed not only Raven but Summer as well. Crow being Ruby's dad and his semblance brought misfortune upon Summer is such a better route than Tai being a playboy lol.
I can get behind people who have actually good reasons to believe canon is correct and Qrow is just Ruby's uncle, but anyone saying "CRWBY debunked it, it's done, shut up about it" need to realise we're not as stupid as you think we are. We know the writers denied it. We believe this theory because it makes a lot of sense, moreso than canon. Is it bad to want what we think is a better-written outcome with all these interactions Ruby and Qrow have? And writers are rarely on the reader's side when it comes to spoilers. They have secrets to keep and spoilers to maintain, and truth becomes secondary to the story's payoff.
I personally love this theory and believe it. Tai is little more than the stereotypical dad when it comes to Ruby, though there's nothing wrong with that. But let's see here. Tai is a stable man. A good fighter, but more suited as a family man. He offers that stability Qrow knows he can never give. Plus we see that Qrow was just as charismatic and attractive in Beacon as he is now. He's a bad boy and lady's man, and you expect me to believe BOTH his teammates went for Tai and never considered him? Raven sure, because they're siblings, but Summer too? Qrow is probably the most eligible bachelor in the whole school. If Tai loved Raven and went with her, EVEN if Summer pined for Tai in secret, you think she wouldn't have considered Qrow in the time Tai and Raven were together?
Entertain my headcanon for a bit. If Qrow was in love with Summer, and Summer pined for Tai, but Tai chose Raven, I think it's very possible she may have considered Qrow as a partner now even if she never did before. Summer would have accepted that Tai was impossible for her to pursue and only then saw Qrow as a possible partner.
I also think this theory just enriches the story overall. There's nothing wrong with the straightforward route of Tai being Ruby's dad, but why we subscribe to it is because it otherwise just shuts down all of these possibilities. There's no secret to keep, no revelation to uncover. The main character and her beloved uncle never have to have their relationship and trust tested and strained, and Qrow can just merrily stake his life to protect Ruby the entire show while Ruby's own father waters his daisy garden. The uncle somehow is just closer to the niece than her own father, even though you want me to believe Tai loves Summer just as much as he loved Raven. Qrow actually has a place within Team STRQ beyond being the lone wolf who's out of the loop. His tense exchange with Tai at the end of Volume 3 becomes loaded with subtext and explains Tai's hostility to Qrow. The writers are clearly dropping hints that Qrow was extremely torn up about Summer's death over anything else in his life besides Ozpin.
All this gets thrown out the window if we just shut up and accept that the writers will always tell the truth to fan questions on the internet even if it means spoiling a potentially huge endgame reveal, and just shrug and say Tai is Ruby's dad for sure.
To me this theory doesn’t make any sense. I think Ruby and Qrow have a good relationship now and don’t really need the daughter, father thing. Not to mention Tai and Ruby haven’t been in that many parts together. It seems unfair to say, they aren’t close, when we haven’t seen them together.
Also Tai was sleeping near Ruby. He cares.
Does like everyone just forget that summer lived long enough for yang to remember as a mother figure which meant she lived with taiyang as a couple? Back in volume two when she talks to Blake about raven she says that summer was “like a super mom” and after she died it really messed her up even though she thought ruby was too young to really know what was going on or remember her, and that’s when she found out that summer wasn’t her real mother, that her real mother left after she was born, and she became obsessed with finding her. The literal reason she clung so desperately to the idea of finding raven is because she just lost her mother and used the idea of that as a replacement to help her cope. If summer raised yang with taiyang until she died she was obviously with him and not qrow, unless the theory is founded on her cheating which is possible but not what anyone talks about when they mention it.
The strangest thing is definitely how close he is to Ruby, who according to what we are given has no blood ties to him, over Yang who is his blood niece
Yup as expected in the comment, people butt hurt over a theory lol
I like the half sister idea more than cousins
I like this theory, plus if you see how much connection qrow has with ruby more than yang. Even if this theory isnt true, still qroe has thay connection to someone whos not related much more stronger than someone from his blood ( speaking about yang).
Has anyone else ever noticed that Qrow actually brings up and talks Summer while Ti continues to not, as well as mention only Raven?
Oh I don't know. Maybe because it brings him pain thinking about it?
@@sirivandrake9129 He just wants to forget about Summer and try to move on.
I love qrow very much I just hope he doesn’t die either also rooster teeth is having awful excuse that qrow isn’t the father there are so many hints his theme and like you said how they get along so well he watches over her, he protects her for any harm, his not moving on that’s for sure so much for snow bird fans
Sorry guys qrow isn’t into winter
But my point is if he tells her what about ruby her dad isn’t a real father and the uncle is the father all along and he can’t be there with her for 15 or 16 years because his semblance he loves her so much he doesn’t want anything happen it’ll be hard for him to explain it’ll be hard for Ruby understand and if possible I’m not sure if it happens but if it does happen maybe qrow could be father again I’m hoping for it but like rooster teeth always kept saying “qrow is not the father” but you guys left so many hints that he is than he isn’t your just messing with our minds
But yeah I hope nothing happen to qrow if there was it’s going be sad both of Ruby’s parents are dead not only that we just hope qrow have good life than he has been through people are still upset about Pyrrha and penny’s death I’m not sure about the top at with cane but I’m just saying if anything does happen to qrow I’m done with rooster teeth
Honestly it makes the most sense and to those who say "oh they said qrow isn't her father" think from a story teller viewpoint why the hell would they reveal such a huge plot twist outside of the show? It makes not legitimate sense to reveal such a thing it would be like george lucas spoiling that luke was darth vader's son in a interview it's stupid.
Not really. Why would Summer, Tai, and Qrow agree to this crazy plan?
because the inherit danger of qrow's semblance would be to a baby ruby not to mention a pregnant summer tai for all his bluster at qrow is rather nice to him meaning they where or are good friends i could see tai offering to play the part of a father to ruby and summer helps qrow with the raising of a still relatively young yang, while qrow stay's at a relatively safe distance from ruby. only getting closer when he thinks she might be able to somewhat handle his bad luck semblance.
Still I feel like they could have come up with a better method. I mean no one in their right mind would come up with such a crazy plan. I mean Tai and Summer just pretend to be a couple and Qrow just watches from a far? That's just not normal. I mean Qrow could just come and go. There's no need to turn Tai into Ruby's dad.
Besides if this is true, this will not work out for anyone. Ruby being lied to all this time would most likely not take it well. Heck Yang might be even put into the cross fire with this one. I'm just saying it's not going to end with rainbows.
feels more natural than tai shacking up with summer just after raven leaves and them popping out a baby even though it's shown he still holds a place for raven in his heart, not to mention how the fuck does it not feel normal watching your daughter from afar under the pretense of being a step sister's uncle and a brother-in-law taking in your child and loved one while she looks after a young girl who has no mother figure and playing off the fact hell yang didn't know summer wasn't her mother until after she died how is that any different not to mention with qrow's dangerous semblance and probably dangerous missions that might lead to salem or someone who has ties to salem going after qrow in the first place and a young daughter who so happens to have silver eye's like her mother would be a prime target and since season 3 how much rainbow and sunshine have you honestly seen. spoilers to those who haven seen volume 3 for some weird reason.
with the death of pyrra and penny in volume 3 it really hasn't had the whole sunshine rainbows and frelling unicorns with what happend in episode 5 of this volume we also have added in freaking rotting corpse's so yea rwby pretty dark now and day's this also could be a way to give ruby more depth of character also how exaclty could you do better if you think they could do better.
It actuality does. I mean Tai's wife just left him and now he has to raise a daughter on his own. Summer comes along and helps out and they get close. Love can work in many way's to stories. It just seem's odd Qrow would be fine only being an uncle and not being called her dad. I know there's a little risk, but Qrow could still be viewed as her dad.
As for that rainbow comment that wasn't about the series, it was more about the relationship. I don't think Ruby would take it well that everyone has been lying to her this whole time, for no real reason. So it could just end really bad for them. Even to a point where she doesn't trust anyone. I mean what's there to really hid? I'm sure everyone knows what Team Qrow was on. Even if they didn't know who he was married to, they could still attack them with or with them knowing.
I still see it as a nut job plan, but that's just my viewpoint on it.
I love how everyone assuming Qrows actually Ruby's father.
Even though their not much to even confirm it.
However if it is true i'll pat you all on the back.
But if it isn't, I do like your theory...
The reason its hard to believe that Qrow is ruby father is because of yang. I believe yang is two years older then ruby and she remembers summer as a super mom. She thought that summer was her birth mother until she died. For Qrow to be ruby father, summer had to cheat on taiyang or she was with Qrow for two years and left him for taiyang.
Everyone is saying Tai doesn't have to game to get with both his teammates. Consider the following: Raven was up to that point the love of his life and more than likely close with Summer. Raven decides to give up her life and team for her tribe. Tai is heartbroken, Summer is upset and they find comfort in each other's arms. Not necessarily romantic, a moment of grief and weakness. They didn't need to be in a relationship to have a kid, just a one night stand.
I really love this theory because it takes the evidence from the show and tries to put all of the evidence together with some thoughts on the characters
Qrow isn't Ruby's father. If he was he would be the biggest hypocrite on Remnant.
He chews on Raven for not being there for Yang, yet is fine doing the same for Ruby?
He gets upset toward Ozpin for having lied to him his entire life, and tell Ruby not to lie to Oscar to make feel better (when she didn't) because they're better than that, yet is fine with lying to Ruby about not being her father her entire life?
And all of that after they already hide to Yang her birth mother left her when she was a newborn and that Summer wasn't her "real" mother? You'd think that'd teach him and Tai that lying to children about their parentage is not a good idea.
Also: Summer and Ruby were already living with Tai and Yang long before Summer died.
Did Qrow love Summer? Maybe. Does he see Ruby as the daughter he never had? Maybe. But Qrow isn't her father,
I can see your view, absolutely can but his semblence does make it harder to be with her as a father, so Tai basically takes on the role for him and could have possibly lied to her about it, besides several characters are hypocrites in the show
@James Schulte Except his Semblance isn't that bad. He has no problem living with team RNJR for a month in Mistral, fight a battle alongside them and WY, or taking a train with them to Argus. Or personally train Ruby incthe use of the a dangerous weapon.
But sure. Let's say it's because of his Semblance. Then why lie? They didn't need to pretend in that case. Especially if thet's how he reacts to someone who lied to him to not burden him with the truth.
And again, Ruby and Summer were already living with Tai and Yang for years before Summer died. It just doesn't work.
@@MrRemicas they are all trained fighters now and even then Qrow didn't want to stay with them at first, its a big difference between now and when ruby was a baby. and why lie, probably for the same reason they originally lied to Yang to A) not make her more upset and confused and B) to keep her from trying to go after Qrow when she was a child. and it works just fine if they came to this agreement when Summer learned that she was having Ruby. And Qrow being a hypocrite doesn't disprove the theory he's a human being he is capable of having flaws, and put yourself in his shoes do you really think he would have even thought about a lie told like 10 to 16 years ago when he blew up at Oz probably not
"He chews on Raven for not being there for Yang, yet is fine doing the same for Ruby?
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It has already been said several times in the series that from time to time, Qrow spent time with Ruby throughout her life. (He was the one who trained her).
He might not be with her all the time, but he certainly never abandoned Ruby, unlike what Raven did with Yang
Raven doesn't have a bad luck semblance. She has no good reason to not be there for her child, so if Qrow is Ruby's father, then in my eyes, it'd make sense if he tried to pose as her uncle instead. Wouldn't you want to protect your child from yourself if you had the power to bring bad luck?
Besides, Qrow never outright left Ruby or Yang. Raven couldn't give enough of a shit to be there for Yang, which is why Qrow bags her. At least he made an effort to stay with Ruby instead of running away with his tail between his legs. The show also clearly states that he was there ever since Ruby was born, because if not, Yang and Ruby would have died to Grimm, as stated by Yang in the story she told to Blake in V2.
And another thing. Qrow's lie to Ruby is nothing like the lies Ospin has told to everyone he knows and works with. If anyone were to tell Ruby that her real father is actually Qrow, it wouldn't shake her up like he is about Ozpin's lie. Qrow was given a purpose when working behind Ozpin, but to turn around and basically tell him, "No, you aren't moving towards a better cause. You're fighting for nothing."
Besides, I feel like Ruby would take the news rather well considering how she's carrying herself this volume. I feel like she'd understand and not feel any spite towards anyone for doing this. She would probably just be disappointed though.
Father to Ruby or not, I just want good things for Qrow
Good theory. But the real theory is that Tai had two love affairs. ruby's mother and yang's mother and qrow is ruby's uncle, and if qrow were ruby's father, ruby and yang would not be sisters but just friends.
They'd still be blood related since Raven and Qrow are siblings so Ruby and Yang would be cousins if Qrow is Ruby's father
I don’t care if Qrow isn’t ruby’s real dad . I feel he act more like dad to ruby than Taiyang. He was the one to teach ruby to fright ,and was the one to go after her when she ran alway. He deeply and truly cares for her. I always felt like Taiyang saw ruby as less important than yang for some reason. I always thought ruby and Qrow had a better relationship than ruby and Taiyang. I believe that Taiyang isn’t as good as a father as everyone says he is especially towards ruby. I know would be a better dad for ruby
Well u bring up some good points however, the show hasn't really shown Ruby and Tai together that much. There in 2 scene in total that the 2 have shared together. Besides I feel like your leaving out a few parts that showed that Tai really cares about Ruby.
Who was near Ruby when she woke up after using SE? It was Tai. Qrow only showed up after words.
Who told Ruby the location to go to which made her run away in the first place? Qrow. If anything Qrow was egging Ruby on to get her to run away in the first place.
I feel the only reason why Tai didn't teach Ruby is because his style didn't work for her. If we look at Yang's it's dealing with power and taking hits. While Ruby's is about moving fast.
Now I'm not saying your wrong, but Ruby and Tai haven't been given enough time to interact with one another to really show how their relationship is. I'm sure Tai treats Ruby the same way as he does Yang.
@@animedude8712 or because qrow knows her and he was sure that she will leave
With the end of volume 8 this theory only seems more and more true, especially with his desperate calls for Ruby at the end of the volume, not yang and ruby... Just Ruby
It's either Qrow is Ruby's father or Tai is just that *smooth*
I love your storytelling~! I honestly love this theory and the mystery whether Qrow is Ruby's father.. but i'm not ready for Yang and Ruby to be cousins, i still want them to be half-sisters.
Thanks so much! I completely get where you are coming from. I don't want Yang and Ruby's relationship to change and if Qrow does end up being Ruby's father, it might be awkward for a short while but I think they will still see each other as sisters
I'm just shocked that your getting attention and views but fans are not subscribing,I've Been hooked on your theories and idealogy towards rwby##TeamPheonix/Knight
Thank you so much for the kind words and support! It really means a lot to me. I'm glad people are watching the videos and if they don't subscribe right away, I'll just make more videos and theories to convince them 😁
What if Qrow getting dragged by Grimm arms is him falling into despair, and they try to get ruby (as we see) but she fights it. Maybe she finds out that Qrow is her dad and she begins falling into despair but she tries to fight it
This is a fantastic video... My ONLY concern with this theory is what Yang has said about summer, treating her as her mother figure at some point.
Monty debunked this theory 4 years ago
Miles debjnked this theory 3 months ago.
I agree and think makes more sense. After all I always thought it was weird that Tai some how falls in love with two women that were on his same team, marries them both etc...I can understand if one of the woman actually dies (more so Raven who was the 1st Wife) but both women are alive plus I see no reason why Qrow wouldn't also at some point in his life fell for Summer right...so Qrow actually being Ruby's father makes sense since the series is mainly about people lying, keeping secrets, not telling the whole truth etc...
I believe this Theory, but in a different way.
I believe summer rose was never married, qrow and her were dating and they woohooed one night, and the rubber broke. Ruby was a mistake, but she came out perfect. Ruby was the best thing his semblance gave to him.
But, the moment Qrow found out she was pregnant, he ran. Summer was alone the entire pregnancy, alone with Yang and her father, a good friend. Ty and summer became closer and closer until they got together, they were going to get married. And then qrow came back. He lost his whole life because he was afraid. So he started to drink and watch after his daughter from a distance. Once summer died he became glued to ruby and started training her. And we know the rest
I just thought of sumn, awhile back, it was in a video where they said that Qrows semblance is bad luck but maybe if he changed his attitude on it, it could bring good luck or bad luck for anyone crossing him.
To me this is kind a reminiscent of the character Zero from Megaman X, he believes he's a blight on the world and kinda hates himself for it, like he has no purpose, but in his final battle, he comes to terms with himself and it makes him stronger for it.
I think everyone can relate to Qrow in a way. We all have sumn about ourselves that we hate/ don't like, it drags us down and holds us back from truly soaring, but when we EMBRACE that bad part of us, we become FAR better.
Just like for the longest, the sentry in marvel HATED the void, but when he accepted his darker half and fused, he became FAR stronger.
Just a thought, I’m sure this will never happen but what if Summer’s last mission was with Qrow, because of his semblance, he accidentally got Summer killed, which caused him to leave Ruby with Tai so that it doesn’t happen to her too. And Ruby is the next Summer maiden because the original one was her mother
Fay Zan That would be something, but news came out and Qrow wasn’t with her on that mission.
If this theory was true that would make Qrow the biggest hypocrite ever. I can see Qrow loving Summer but couldn't tell her because of him being afraid of hurting her later on. Me personally I believe that Tai his Ruby dad. After all CRWBY did say that Ruby was supposed to resemble Summer. Which is made apparent when Raven said that Ruby sound like her mother and by the only picture we have of Summer we see that Ruby also look like Summer. Qrow was also around alot from what's it seems which could be why Ruby acts like him some. Idk I just don't believe Qrow believe Ruby dad.
Yang shares the traits of tai and raven while ruby shares that of qrow and summer. Neither mother is in the picture when it comes to yang or ruby. Yet yang looks like a spitting image of both raven and tai. Similar skirt covering as raven, similar hair style, and tais hands on type fighting style clothing as well as the same fighting style as tai. All characters except ruby share color pattern with their parents as well. Ruby seems to be the only exception to this as she appears to share everything with summer and qrow. You dont see any connection between her and tai like you do the other characters. It also seems qrow took the death of summer harder than tai. Qrow semblance explains why he wouldnt want ruby to be around him as often especially with the missions he goes on. He is on the one who watches ruby, hes also the one who talks to ruby like after the fall of beacon. Either the writers got extremely lazy when designing this or they lied to surprise fans.
Anonymous Anonymous U do know Tai fell into a deep depression after Summer died? He was effected more or in a different way.
I wonder if he was that depressed over raven to only have a kid 2 years apart...
Maybe his upsetness isnt all its crakced up to be.... Its a 9 month period before a child can be born... If yang and ruby are only 2 years apart.. That would be 1 year and 3 months between raven leaving and summer appearing in his life.... I wonder how much he could actually give a damn about her seeing as how she got pregnant literally a year after raven left... Seems to move too fast to me to mean anything....
After seeing the scene with Ruby at home after the fall of beacon, where Qrow asks Tai to leave so he can speak with Ruby alone, I was like: mmk, wut? Ever since then I’ve suspected, and then hearing him talk about Summer in volume 7 I’m almost convinced.
Rt needs to see this video. They may say qrow is not Ruby’s father but this video has SOOOO much evidence that he’s Ruby’s father
Friedrich Nietzsche said that to live is to suffer, and survival is finding meaning in suffering. But I doubt he had this in mind.
Still till now almost 14th of april 2021 ill never stop believing the qrow is ruby's father no matter what monty saod if its not debunked by the series itself i wont stop supporting it
I love this video, but qrow is not Ruby’s father. When you talk about how back in volume 2 when yang has the flashback of her trying to find her mother with ruby and qrow saves them, I feel like he was there for mainly ruby, but not for the reason you think. I believe he was there because of her silver eyes. Really think about. Pretty much everything qrow does for ruby is because of her silver eyes, not because she is his daughter. Why was he there in season 4? To protect her because people are trying to kill her because of her silver eyes. And as for her not being anything like Tai, she actually is. They are both wise and have the same personality. Yang gets his looks, Ruby gets his wisdom and mind. It makes sense. I do believe qrow is in despair from summers death, but not because they were lovers. I think they were just really good friends. That’s it.
Honestly I hope that they don't kill off Qrow he's so cool
Okay, everyone else in the comments has already covered the many reasons people believe and love this theory...
So let me just point out that there is literally no ironclad way for the theory to be disproved. Word of god? Rebecca Sugar lied about Rose Quartz being Pink Diamond. George Lucas lied to everyone- including the actors- about the Vader twist. Word of characters? This theory is built on the fact that they lie. Actual visual confirmation in series? They could show Tai and Summer fucking and it still wouldn’t actually disprove the theory. DNA test within the show? Again, people lie, results can be faked.
Also, as this video shows, Qrow as Ruby’s dad is a much more meaningful story than if it were Tai.
Edit: to be clear, I’m in full support of this theory and just find people’s efforts to combat it amusing. You can’t fight theories or headcanons.
Why do people always forget what Yang said to blake in volume 2 and if they didn’t forget then it sure feels like they did.
I like to think that the traits of a person who possess silver eyes is probably the one to pass down their traits as dominant hints why ruby would look alot alike her mom more than a mix of tai and summer unlike how yang looks more like a mixture of Tai and Raven. But we are talking the "Silver eyes" which might have some kind of relation to magic in some way and magic does weird things.
Qrow may not be Ruby’s dad but he should be,
I never thought of that I never Think that Qrow is Ruby's Dad,I seen RWBY when I was 13 but I'm still 13 but when you look at Qrow and Ruby's relationship Their have a Father and Daughter Time together
Here’s what I think:
Summer and Qrow had affairs, but Qrow never knew he got Summer pregnant, and Summer never told him
If you try to call this irrational/unreasonable, you obviously do not know how often this situation happens in the real world.
Anyway, Qrow and Ruby have a special connection, Tai and Ruby don’t. This isn’t 100% solid, but it is a lot less common for an uncle/aunt have a stronger special connection to his/her niece/nephew than their mother/father, if their parent has one with their child at all. I know a case in my family that negates this point, except the fact that, as my uncle had a special connection with my sister, my mom had that same connection with his daughter, and I think that point has valid significance.
That said, you see the connection Taiyang and Yang have, you see the connection Ghira and Blake have, not so much Weiss because her dad doesn’t give a damn of his children... but Klein was Weiss’ father figure and they have a special connection. Ruby and Qrow have a father/daughter relationship, but they don’t know that they really are
I feel like there is so much supporting this theory of Qrow is Ruby’s Dad. That said, it isn’t a valid plot point in the current arc, and should honestly be avoided until this arc concludes, unless they find a clever way to tie it in without shoehorning it in, like Ruby asking Jinn about the history of Silver Eyes (it has to involve Jinn in some way, tho)
You don't see much connection between Tai and Ruby because Tai isn't present in the series much like Qrow. That doesn't really say much.
Kai Yamato
We never see Ruby and Tai have any connection. Period
@@fanamatakecick97 Tai was taking care of her while she was in a coma and she was excited about mail from him in Vol 2. That's definitely connection. Again Tai has such low screentime we don't see it enough.
Kai Yamato
Let me rephrase:
There is no connection of “you are the sole reason I was born” connection
@@fanamatakecick97 And?
something i noticed recently- in the photo of team STRQ, it is shown that qrow is holding his sword with his left hand!! this may mean he is left handed (ruby is also left handed), although it isn’t really plausible since we don’t know if summer or taiyang was at all due to their ambidextrous-ness with fighting and all. just a thought ! :)
qrow: well kiddo im your dad
ruby: welp ive seen the theorys so..... ik
yang; FUCKING CALLED IT
blake: wait we were supposed to think you weren't her dad?
weiss: no shit....
qrow: well damn....
when Qrow got poisoned I thought it would be a good timing to tell Ruby the truth but the writers knew he would made it so he didn't say anything
One flaw. Salem cannot be killed but she can be defeated. She must learn the importance of life and death; only then can she rest. The way to defeat her once and for all is not physical but mental.
I hope we get strq flashback this volume (rwby vol 6) !!!😍😍😍
Agreed, I'm also hoping for a STRQ spinoff series!
"in some way shape or form"
I see what you did there.
(human/crow)
Another thing to keep in mind is Summer and Qrow's colors. Summer is always associated with red, but her hood and cape is white. Meanwhile, Qrow wears primarily white colors, but has a _red cape._ It's an odd ying-yang symbolism, especially when you consider that they're the only members of Team STRQ that wore capes. And who else wears a cape, that has also become tattered much like Qrow's?
Ruby Rose.
Characters looking alike can be circumstantial evidence, Im fine with that. It makes perfect sense that Ruby Idolizes him and imitates his style. What doesnt make sense (and gives this theory legs for me) is that it wouldnt make any sense for Tai, Raven, and Summer to have the relationship they did. Tai was with Raven and had a child (Yang), and then Raven left to do mission stuff or just F off cause why not. But then LESS THAN 2 YEARS LATER, Tai and Summer get together and then Ruby is born 9 months later. Qrow being her father just makes more sense and would have been a great side story.
I swear to god, I know the writing direction has changed due to Monty's passing, but I still want this to be a thing. Why else is there an old bottle stain on Summer's side of the picture? Plus, there's no other explanation as to why Qrow trained her instead of Tai.
The creators already said that qrow wasn't ruby dad tho in reddit
I don't think that this theory has any legs to stand on considering that the creators already confirmed that Qrow isn't her father.
They also say thats her uncle but thats literally impossible
@@neosverse how so?
@@markthomaskiec2453 they have no relation
Im just gonna say Qrow's behavior towards Ruby and his behavior towards Yang are kinda different. To me anyways. I mean if he's their uncle, why does he seem more caring to Ruby?? I believe in the Qrow is Ruby's dad theory, but if it turns out that he's not, im not gonna be upset. Also i don't believe in the whole debunking thing. Monty has mentioned several times that color schemes, eyes, and names are important. I find it odd that Ruby doesn't have any color on her that ties her to Tai, ya kno what i mean
I know this video is pretty old but one thing i don't see enough is the fact that qrow trained ruby, not tai. if tai was ruby's only father figure it would make sense he'd train both girls since he is a hunter, but qrow went out of his way to train ruby and not yang. sure he could just be doing this as an uncle thing but it's pretty suspicious he'd train ruby specifically. the fact that ruby mentions it a lot shows how much time they did spend together, at least once she was old enough to defend herself against qrow's bad luck semblance.
also everyone talks about how tai doesn't have enough "game" to get with both girls on his team and while i believe that, it's also important to note that it would be out of tai's character to move on so fast. He's obviously still hurt by raven leaving him and yang, to the point where yang talks about how he never talked about her mom and she basically thought summer was her mom. It would be strange for him to quickly jump to summer. plus it's obvious that while both tai and qrow are upset over summers death, qrow is SIGNIFICANTLY more distressed and it would make sense if that's where his alcoholism stems from.
It could explain Tai's obvious distaste towards Qrow. Summer and Qrow got together in a short term relationship where she got pregnant and to spare Tai more emotional grief from Raven leaving she left Qrow on the promise that he NEVER reveals who the father is
I totally agree with this theory. And for those of you that keep whining about Monty debunking it? Why the hell would he say otherwise? That would be a huge spoiler for the show and take the suspense and drama out of it. Steven Universe kept debunking the theory about Pink Diamond, and look how that ended. I'm not saying that this theory is certainty, but the evidence given, especially with other creators lying to audiences to not spoil big surprises, is really damning.
It's 2020,but I still believe what i believed.
I never understood why people can be so violently opposed to this theory. I don't actually think this is canon but I so want it to be true.
I don’t think summer is alive because after their fight with Tyrian, Qrow was mumbling about how “Summer isn’t coming back Tye.”
Nobody_cares 36 Taiyang wasn’t there-
Why would he say that?
love this vid so much, keep up the good work! :)
Not much evidence is in the show to support this. But having Qrow revealing he is Ruby's real father would be a huge bombshell and good character development for both of them. So i salute you on this theory sir!
I like all of your points, very good, though the only disagreement I have is I think Qrow does care about yang, but it seems like he feels she can care for herself well, which makes his obvious overprotective nature over ruby more logical if he is her dad, cause dads do trust their daughters (if they're a good dad that is) but they still feel protective
No I totally disagree. Qrow has no idea he ever fathered a child. He truly believes he is just their (Rwby and Yang) Uncle. Ty accepted Summer`s advances that were timed to obscure who really fathered Rwby, but I imagine he has his suspicions. Summer Rose is is the only person who ever knew fathered Rwby!
That's an interesting spin on it. That would make it even more interesting if this ends up being true as Qrow and Ruby will both be shocked
I was hoping this theory would have died with the theories that Oz is a crazy super villain. There are so many things wrong with this idea, I don't get why people don't see it.
One of my biggest problems with the whole theory is, Why would anyone do this? Why would Summer leave Qrow to go live with Tai? None of that makes any scenes. Couldn't they still have lived as a family and Qrow just leaves every now and again. Why would you move in with a male friend and act like a family with him? Does no one see how messed up that is? Also Qrow is still allowed to see her, even thou he is bad luck.
I'm not even sure if you were paying attention to the show? Everything u said, was all wrong. To Qrow living with Summer and Ruby, to him not caring about if Yang died. Ruby and Qrow don't even look a like. What do they have that show's they are similar? Ruby how more traits with her mom and we've only seen her face.
If anything I want this season to put a true end to this theory.
If the theory isn't true than Taiyang isn't a very good father to Ruby. He clearly has a favourite child Yang. Ruby also doesn't seem to have adopted any personality traits from Taiyang so he must be a terrible father. Ruby, isn't told by Taiyang what happened at beacon and about her silver eye's it Qrow who tells her and not Taiyang who is her father. It should've been her father who tells her this and not her uncle. In volume 4 Ruby has technically runaway from home and is on a dangerous mission, Yang isn't really in much danger but Ruby is and yet he doesn't even go searching for his daughter. Meanwhile Ruby's uncle Qrow, makes sure she's safe. If he wasn't her father, then he is doing a good job of appearing as a father figure, but a terrible job at being a father to Ruby because Taiyang is definitely closer to Yang than Ruby.
If Ruby knew from a young, that Qrow was her real father. Summer Rose was dead, and she wasn't being raised by her own father, almost as though he didn't love her. Yang wasn't her actual sister yet somehow they were raised as if they were. Taiyang tried to be a father to Ruby, but he didn't give her the same attention as his actual daughter. So Ruby always felt alone and had no one who actually cared for her, even if Yang was close to her she wasn't her actual sister. Ruby probably wouldn't of become a huntresses because they are never there for their children. She'd see them in a different light and not in the light they give hope. She'd grow to have more resentment towards Qrow since he was never around. And when he was, she'd never understand why he wasn't there for her when her mother died.
Also how the hell did Taiyang get over Raven soooo quickly, then even have a child with another woman... Who also happened to be in his team.
Its whack to me that people don't see that. There is so much just design wise that doesn't make sense that are like that for every other character. Every character looks like both of their parents in some way. And ruby just looks like her mom???? Whack