Its about time someone came out with a proper looking AR9. The front slanted 9mm glock mags look ridiculous... Can you make a video where you open this weapon up and allow us to look at the feed ramp and bolt carrier?
Hi, John! I’ve got the 4” and I keep having issues with stove piping...it’s chambering the next round but continues to FTE the spent case. Have you experienced this? I cleaned it, and changed ammo, but the issue continues. Ive only used FMJ ammo. I’ve contacted PSA and after three weeks, and emailing them each week, I can’t get a response, and their phone line is down.
Update: I finally got to the range. Thumbs up on the AR-V. The Armaspec captured buffer deal is a must! PSA is now selling the core kit which I recommend. The trigger is marginal. The PSA handguard is worthless if you want to mount anything on the 4.5” barrel. It’s too slim and there’s no m-lol clearance behind it with a can or blast shield. Accuracy is phenomenal for such a short barrel. The scorpion Magpul mags will not feed hollow points but the factory mag seems to run fine. I wish I had more ammunition to run a better test....
Finally picked mine up from my FFL. I added a Devil Dog's Concepts Side Charger and tried some other add on parts. Mine is the 4" version so it has very little rail space on the hand guards. The muzzle device it ships with is very thick and makes the M-Lok slots unusable, so no finger stop until that is swapped out. I haven't fired it yet but compared the factory mag to a Magpul one. The Magpuls are definitely sloppy and won't feed hollow points during manual cycling. The factory mag definitely sits higher in the receiver and manually cycles hollow points. Also, FYI, my dumb self attempted to swap out the buffer and spring with a armaspec captured spring kit. Those don't work with 9mm blow back bolts, I'm not sure why it's marketed as a PCC weight buffer when it would never work in one. Edit: you have to remove the bolt carrier weight to make this work. The recoil impulse is about zero with the Armaspec PPC captured spring kit!
Maybe polishing the feed ramp will help with hollow points? So is a 3 lug the best option for a suppressor? wish it was 1/2x28, 3 lug from cgs is like $130.
This is why I purchased the 4” and 8” 9MM uppers from PSA and put them on an AR15 lower. USE EndoMags, no mag well adapter needed. Make sure to purchase a 9MM buffer (not the same as an AR15 buffer) minimum weight 9.5 oz. I use the 11.0 oz buffer weight from Brownells. Use a heavy buffer spring, I use Sprinco Red. Over 1000 rounds through each gun, flawless (except aluminum) with several kinds of ammo including JHP, flat nose and steel cased ammo. Also, replace trigger pin, hammer pin, buffer retainer pin and firing pin with titanium, not expensive. You’ll thank me later.
I have found when I rest the mag on a hard surface and fire like that the recoil is always more harsh. Get that other hand on the foregrip and you will feel less recoil. Also got to a 8oz extended buffer. Huge difference.
PCC’s that aren’t glock mag pccs don’t like JHP rounds. My AKV won’t shoot them don’t know if a skorpion will shoot them or mpx will shoot them either. I have no clue about mp5’s either.
Has the bolt holder/release given you any problems ? I noticed, on mine, the bolt doesn't stay back long enough to pull the chamber safety flag or even after the magazine has been removed. I've only fired 300 rounds so far.
I ordered mine in the 4" version a couple days ago. Thanks for doing the review. Do you know if they have a standard weight buffer and spring? I'm wondering if increasing the weight or spring rate would reduce the recoil impulse. I can't wait to get the new toy and put some rounds down range.
Look up tungsten weights for your buffer. You can take the pin off and replace the steel or worse aluminum weights with tungsten weights. Makes it a heavy buffer. Way lighter recoil.
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I like the Omega 9K the best. The Rugged Obsidian 9 is good too. The Omega is better than the short configuration Obsidian. But the Obisidian in the long configuration is better than the Omega.
On the fence, love the look, so much cooler than the glock mags. Also, I have an AKV so I have plenty of mags already. Is everything on the lower metal or are there plastic parts like the Frontier Armory 9 lowers?
The AR-V is definitely lighter. Recoil impulse is about the same. The AR-V has more aftermarket accessories since it is an AR platform. That's not to say that the AK-V has limited accessories. There is just more on the AR-V.
Maybe. If you would a bot the one with the A.L G Trigger, you wouldn't be whining about how bad the trigger is. And you took off the muzzle break, so there's 2 things right there that you. Could have done to improve your enjoyment. Instead of crying about it.
We completely understand why someone wouldn't want to pay $1000 for one. We're opening the price will come down a bit after the virus and elections clear.
Guns are high right now. Not a bad price. You’ll spend that much to get a Scorpion with a brace. And the trigger and grip on this won’t need to be replaced/upgraded like the scorpion.
Buy the essential parts build kit for $500 and go with all mil spec LPG and standard buffer setup, those are dirt cheap even now. You could build one for around $800, 900 if you wanted a better polished trigger and SS barrel.
I just picked one up. 8”. Good video guys.
Really need a 16” upper. Can’t believe they not making anymore.
Its about time someone came out with a proper looking AR9. The front slanted 9mm glock mags look ridiculous... Can you make a video where you open this weapon up and allow us to look at the feed ramp and bolt carrier?
Nevermind! Found it!
We couldn't agree more. Here is a link of us opening up the receivers. th-cam.com/video/Cy8iW4GHpVQ/w-d-xo.html
Thanks so much for making this video. I think you have the only review right now on TH-cam. I bought the 4” barrel version. Subscribed!
That's the one I'm thinking of getting. Do you like it?
@@williammaes I love it actually. The magazines were a big selling point for me. So much easier to load and $14 a piece.
Hi, John! I’ve got the 4” and I keep having issues with stove piping...it’s chambering the next round but continues to FTE the spent case. Have you experienced this? I cleaned it, and changed ammo, but the issue continues. Ive only used FMJ ammo. I’ve contacted PSA and after three weeks, and emailing them each week, I can’t get a response, and their phone line is down.
@@liltoenail1354 Check buffer weight, 9.5 oz minimum and heavy buffer spring.
Update: I finally got to the range. Thumbs up on the AR-V. The Armaspec captured buffer deal is a must! PSA is now selling the core kit which I recommend. The trigger is marginal. The PSA handguard is worthless if you want to mount anything on the 4.5” barrel. It’s too slim and there’s no m-lol clearance behind it with a can or blast shield. Accuracy is phenomenal for such a short barrel. The scorpion Magpul mags will not feed hollow points but the factory mag seems to run fine. I wish I had more ammunition to run a better test....
So I went and ordered the builder kit that comes with the lower, upper, BCG, and 35 rd magazine! Looking at getting a 10.5 inch bbl for mine!
Finally picked mine up from my FFL. I added a Devil Dog's Concepts Side Charger and tried some other add on parts. Mine is the 4" version so it has very little rail space on the hand guards. The muzzle device it ships with is very thick and makes the M-Lok slots unusable, so no finger stop until that is swapped out. I haven't fired it yet but compared the factory mag to a Magpul one. The Magpuls are definitely sloppy and won't feed hollow points during manual cycling. The factory mag definitely sits higher in the receiver and manually cycles hollow points. Also, FYI, my dumb self attempted to swap out the buffer and spring with a armaspec captured spring kit. Those don't work with 9mm blow back bolts, I'm not sure why it's marketed as a PCC weight buffer when it would never work in one.
Edit: you have to remove the bolt carrier weight to make this work. The recoil impulse is about zero with the Armaspec PPC captured spring kit!
Good to see you got yours. Does yours have the flash can/linear compensator muzzle device?
which version of the devil dog did you get?
Be interesting comparison between AKv and ARv.
Liked the tommy boy reference. Thanks for the review.
You bet
Maybe polishing the feed ramp will help with hollow points? So is a 3 lug the best option for a suppressor? wish it was 1/2x28, 3 lug from cgs is like $130.
You can pick up a Kaw Valley 3-lug adapter for $30-$40 from Joe Bob Outfitters before shipping.
@@nicscheufler5288 Thanks! this kind of info is really hard for us suppressor noobs to find.
This is why I purchased the 4” and 8” 9MM uppers from PSA and put them on an AR15 lower. USE EndoMags, no mag well adapter needed. Make sure to purchase a 9MM buffer (not the same as an AR15 buffer) minimum weight 9.5 oz. I use the 11.0 oz buffer weight from Brownells. Use a heavy buffer spring, I use Sprinco Red. Over 1000 rounds through each gun, flawless (except aluminum) with several kinds of ammo including JHP, flat nose and steel cased ammo. Also, replace trigger pin, hammer pin, buffer retainer pin and firing pin with titanium, not expensive. You’ll thank me later.
I have found when I rest the mag on a hard surface and fire like that the recoil is always more harsh. Get that other hand on the foregrip and you will feel less recoil. Also got to a 8oz extended buffer. Huge difference.
Where did you order the new buffer?
I've been trying to decide which one to get, the AR-V or the AKV. You helped me make my decision, the AKV runs whatever you feed them.
My akv won't run hollow points
@@David-xy5sd I bought one but honestly I haven't tried to run any HP through it. I can hardly stand to see the dollars fly outa the barrel
PCC’s that aren’t glock mag pccs don’t like JHP rounds. My AKV won’t shoot them don’t know if a skorpion will shoot them or mpx will shoot them either. I have no clue about mp5’s either.
Nice video guys!
Has the bolt holder/release given you any problems ? I noticed, on mine, the bolt doesn't stay back long enough to pull the chamber safety flag or even after the magazine has been removed. I've only fired 300 rounds so far.
Use the PSA Meg, you will be able to cycle, hollow points, more reliably
Thanks.
I ordered mine in the 4" version a couple days ago. Thanks for doing the review. Do you know if they have a standard weight buffer and spring? I'm wondering if increasing the weight or spring rate would reduce the recoil impulse. I can't wait to get the new toy and put some rounds down range.
Tuning the buffer and spring will definitely help with recoil impulse. We didn't do that for the review but may in the future.
Look up tungsten weights for your buffer. You can take the pin off and replace the steel or worse aluminum weights with tungsten weights. Makes it a heavy buffer. Way lighter recoil.
@@austinhayes1733 Will do
Thanks
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I'm not really sure why the price is over 1k? Their normal ar9s are about 500-700. This is just an ar9 with a different receiver set...
Wow, that’s some shirt.
Which of the two cans did you like best with this? I plan to go trilug with mine.
I like the Omega 9K the best. The Rugged Obsidian 9 is good too. The Omega is better than the short configuration Obsidian. But the Obisidian in the long configuration is better than the Omega.
@@nicscheufler5288 thanks for taking the time to respond. I appreciate the advice.
On the fence, love the look, so much cooler than the glock mags. Also, I have an AKV so I have plenty of mags already. Is everything on the lower metal or are there plastic parts like the Frontier Armory 9 lowers?
We haven't found any plastic in the lower. But we also haven't taken it apart.
Wait, it came with a mil-spec trigger? I thought they shipped with their Enhanced Polished Trigger.
It may be polished, but it is a solid 8 pounds and even up to 10 pounds on the trigger gauge.
@@loudnoises4093 That's not the polished trigger kit then. Those are much lighter.
Most SMG's won't cycle Hollow Points.
Thanks for the vid dudes
Wonder how this compares to AKV ? AKV vs ARV ?
The AR-V is definitely lighter. Recoil impulse is about the same. The AR-V has more aftermarket accessories since it is an AR platform. That's not to say that the AK-V has limited accessories. There is just more on the AR-V.
Thank you! I’m looking at the smaller barrel version they have...
Will after market AR triggers work with it? I was curious if them having a proprietary lower interfered with after market parts.
We're testing that here in the next couple days and let you know.
How long did it take to ship and get delivered?
It took right at 7 days to ship and arrived in two days.
Maybe.
If you would a bot the one with the A.L G Trigger, you wouldn't be whining about how bad the trigger is. And you took off the muzzle break, so there's 2 things right there that you.
Could have done to improve your enjoyment. Instead of crying about it.
" I didn't even clean it, I just lubed it up" ...... That's what she said.
That’s funny because they’re gay.
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Nick the what???
For $1000, hell no and hell no.
We completely understand why someone wouldn't want to pay $1000 for one. We're opening the price will come down a bit after the virus and elections clear.
Guns are high right now. Not a bad price. You’ll spend that much to get a Scorpion with a brace. And the trigger and grip on this won’t need to be replaced/upgraded like the scorpion.
Buy the essential parts build kit for $500 and go with all mil spec LPG and standard buffer setup, those are dirt cheap even now. You could build one for around $800, 900 if you wanted a better polished trigger and SS barrel.