🥇 SG 550 (Swiss Army Rifle) to 500yds: Practical Accuracy [Stgw 90 - PE 90]

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    The SG550 (Stgw 90 / FASS 90 / PE 90) is a symbol of the modern Swiss marksman and a societal icon in Switzerland. This rifle has been extensively deployed in all facets of the Swiss military, but is also an extremely popular iron-sight competition rifle, often compared to the American M16A2.
    While the SG550 has a reputation to being fantastically accurate and reliable, due to the cost of these rifles, not much testing has been seen in North America. In this video we also interviewed Mike from Bloke on the Range and Brodie, Swiss Army Infantry Officer on the culture and employment of the SG550 in a military and civilian competition environment.
    How does the 20inches of rifling do on the course? Would the diopter sights help to hinder the performance on a slow-fire KD range?
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  • @9HoleReviews
    @9HoleReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    If you liked this video, make sure you check out the Forgotten Weapons take on the SG550 here: th-cam.com/video/vz8YiMPZSZA/w-d-xo.html

    • @realtalk6195
      @realtalk6195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you look into getting your hands on a MPT-76 and a KCR-762 for a range review? They're used by Turkish forces. Would be interested to see that.

    • @0bserver416
      @0bserver416 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lexus of AK!

    • @bronxkal9275
      @bronxkal9275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just came trough from there

    • @Itsme_glen
      @Itsme_glen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When is the 50 metre interval targets happening instead of yards? Would work better since the rifle sights use metres.

    • @sking3492
      @sking3492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn you Henry!! I am soooo jealous of both you and Ian, having the '' tedious '' chore of evaluating weapons all day.... Lol. But seriously, both you and Ian are not only knowledgeable, but easy to listen too and watch your vids. Keep it up 👍👍
      p. s from an ex grunt😜😜

  • @Inazuma68
    @Inazuma68 ปีที่แล้ว +412

    Cheers from Switzerland. Considering, the rifle was built almost 40 years ago makes me feel a bit proud….

    • @neebell5056
      @neebell5056 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would you be proud? Did you built it? Weird shit to be proud of something you didn’t created or achieved yourself.

    • @ferdinandschrott6973
      @ferdinandschrott6973 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The basic AR-15 was designed in the mid fifties

    • @seanhdka
      @seanhdka ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@ferdinandschrott6973 this is more of an ak style weapon really, so i don't know what you're on about.

    • @redshark7494
      @redshark7494 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@seanhdka How was it said once? the SG550 is the luxery AK, or if the AK was aquart this is what it would be

    • @bachmannmanuel1562
      @bachmannmanuel1562 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ja sägs ;-)

  • @SwissFusilier
    @SwissFusilier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +705

    Thanks to Henry and Josh for having me. It was a great honour and a pleasure to be involved in the making of this great video. I had a great time sharing some of my stories and insights about this little pike.
    I hope I can make it over to the states in near future and meet you guys in person.
    BTW if any of my ramblings were to incoherent and/or anyone has a question, please don`t hesitate to ask me.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      ☝️Brodie from the interview

    • @doejohn8674
      @doejohn8674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@9HoleReviews Which twist rate did your 550 have when you shot the course? 1:7 or 1:10? Just curious ;)

    • @LeonardoFSI
      @LeonardoFSI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@doejohn8674 1:7 it's said at some point early in the video and can be see in the practical test notes at the very end of the video.

    • @viggenguy4411
      @viggenguy4411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If you are planning to get to Desert Brutality again this year, I have a newly-rebuilt PE57 you're welcome to use if you want!

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@doejohn8674 these new imports are 1:7, the older PE90 are 1:10

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward7889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    A tribute to Henry’s skill, and the accuracy of the rifle is that it looked like he was barely trying.

    • @andr3i68
      @andr3i68 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This rifle was tailored for Henry! Great rifle and great rifleman! Notice that he stacked the last shots on top of each other!

    • @dieserkanalexistiertnichtm2204
      @dieserkanalexistiertnichtm2204 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A guy in my section in the army hit a 74 out of 85 points on the shooting test at 300m. He shot a gun the first time that day.

  • @ABowlofPho
    @ABowlofPho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +657

    Great video, Henry. Glad to see that one of my loaners has the honor of taking the top spot on the PA scoreboard haha. Loved the commentary afterwards too.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Thank you Steven!!!!

    • @Robert53area
      @Robert53area 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I love Swiss rifles, how can I get one of these SG, they are not as easy to find where I am.

    • @hopewilliams6705
      @hopewilliams6705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's awesome thanks for helping out an amazing channel

    • @beardly0121
      @beardly0121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love these rifles. I'm very jealous of you lol.

    • @Don_Valentino
      @Don_Valentino 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the world is bit more yatta! thanks to this kind sir
      \(^▽^)/

  • @hakimcameldriver
    @hakimcameldriver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +455

    I had a US made Sig556, the trigger was like squeezing a balloon full of non neutonian fluid. Spongy, sloppy, no wall then a gritty break.. the Swiss trigger was like oiled glass.. smooth take up, good wall, clean crisp break.

    • @VorteX_SH
      @VorteX_SH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am never gonna experience it unless I move to USA which is tough to say the least (ಥ_ʖಥ)

    • @hateferlife
      @hateferlife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I too have a US 556. After I got good on that trigger, having ‘mastered’ the USGI M4 trigger, it’s probably the most accurate {covers SA M1A’s ears} semiauto rifle I’ve got.

    • @moistjohn
      @moistjohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I think if sig inc imported them from their brother company sig ag today, they would do a better job, especially if they were just 922r building them.

    • @brianlynch994
      @brianlynch994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I also have a 556. I love it.

    • @ronrobertson59
      @ronrobertson59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree about the Sig 5.56. I have three AR builds I put together from US GI parts and all three have a much better trigger. My son in law has S&W AR with a great trigger out of the box.

  • @BrassFacts
    @BrassFacts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +348

    damn. I feel guilty about missing at 500y (or even 400) now with full optics setups.
    Good job man

    • @hateferlife
      @hateferlife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I has theory, you’re not making a correction for Hop’s sarcasm warping the space/time continuum.

    • @ryanpeck3377
      @ryanpeck3377 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re bad and should feel bad 😉

    • @Khan.WrathOf
      @Khan.WrathOf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Henry has eyesight suitable for peregrine falcon duty. It's ridiculous.

    • @TheNiftyReptile
      @TheNiftyReptile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What is this, a crossover episode?

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I was the designated marksman in our group. I shot 198 to 199 out of 200 at 300m routinely with my H&K G3.... I'm not kidding you when I say that Henry is a phenomenally good shot.

  • @subtitles1492
    @subtitles1492 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    we used to call it „Gummi-Gewehr“ (Rubber Rifle) due to all the plastic parts. After learning on the old and heavy SIG Stgw 57, the Stgw 90 was so much easier to carry around, more precise and easier to maintain.
    thanks for the video!🇨🇭

  • @christianpatton9364
    @christianpatton9364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    That was an epic run with an iron sighted rifle in 5.56. Quality marksmanship and rifle.

    • @alainpedrielli4839
      @alainpedrielli4839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the sig 550 is in 5,6 because the ammunition of the swiss army is 5,6 non 5,56

    • @MrMalicious5
      @MrMalicious5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@alainpedrielli4839 It's 5.56...

    • @patricklang4458
      @patricklang4458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MrMalicious5 in the swiss army we use ruag 5.6 'GP 90' but chambering in 5.56 is fine as well as you could see

    • @Peter-der-gute-vegane-Hirte
      @Peter-der-gute-vegane-Hirte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alainpedrielli4839 5,6 = 5,56

    • @DoppioMalto-qb9ql
      @DoppioMalto-qb9ql ปีที่แล้ว

      FASS uses:
      RUAG and NATO 5,56×45
      Ramington .223
      FMJ and JHP (illegal)
      By the way it can use bullets from the main 21 size rifles (sar 21, scar FN, M 16, etc) but these cannot use RUAG 5.56×45 shells LOL

  • @RAHAAON
    @RAHAAON 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    A few corrections:
    1. You don't BUY your service rifle, you pay for semi locking it, not for the rifle.
    2. Dust cover was torn a lot depending on the force (I'm from infantry).
    3. The officers MAY let you sometimes custom non essential parts when you're in the field. They NEVER allow any custom parts during the show off ceremonies (unless you're smart for some parts, like discreet pistol grip or SIG official telescopic stock).

    • @Vins9393
      @Vins9393 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      3) technically nothing is allowed besides mainstream material distributed... it is just about not getting caught with some modifications

    • @alessandrohuber4407
      @alessandrohuber4407 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nowadays almost everyone has tape over the grip, cords on the magazines and when at the range the diopter for the PE90 screwed on the 300m sight hole. Even saw a few grenadiers with adjustable bipods. When I served a lot of people were using non-issue stuff, anything from larger shoulder pads for the pack to belt pouch for the 07 pocket knife. Almost every OF and UOF wore different boots too. Before 2010 you didn't have to pay to keep your service rifle.

    • @RAHAAON
      @RAHAAON 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude, every time a rank went up to me to tell me, that it's out of mil ordonnance, I was like so? I just have skills to put behind some sane modifications and gear, that's it. You don't need a pimped gun if you're in artillery...@@Vins9393

    • @doyouwanttogivemelekiss3097
      @doyouwanttogivemelekiss3097 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      0:25 stock should be folded usually when carrying

    • @RAHAAON
      @RAHAAON 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Vins9393 it’s not about “not getting caught”, it’s about the commander and his tolerance towards the gear freedom and if it’s rationally used.

  • @MikeB128
    @MikeB128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    That TAZ 90 looks great. Thanks for the shoutout, and glad you're enjoying it!

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Guys, just be careful when you wear these, you could end up getting ladies pregnant.

    • @tiztiziani434
      @tiztiziani434 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@9HoleReviews be carefull wearing these. They are the original fatigues and thus illegal to wear. Wait 2 years, then we'll get issued our new uniform.

  • @MANTIS_DnB
    @MANTIS_DnB ปีที่แล้ว +32

    There is a thing that all the Swiss Guys who did the army tell about our Riffle.
    You can shoot full center in a "thune" (which is the name of our 5CHF piece of money) at 300m.
    This rifle is very accurate.
    We have a thing here called "Young shooter". Basically when you turn16, you can start "Young Shooter" in your city or village.
    It was crazy to see after few minutes of training anyone could shoot a target at 300m without any problem.
    Most of the shots were very close to each others.

    • @Vins9393
      @Vins9393 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah but the large majority joins the army with no rifle experience as i did. And even being in a mountain infantry batallion as a specialist ... i learnt nothing 😂 and just hope i will pass my last mandatory shooting test this year and give my fass90 back

    • @thomasdubuis3844
      @thomasdubuis3844 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      14 not 16

    • @Stefan-im2bx
      @Stefan-im2bx หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ab 10 Jahren darf bei uns geschossen werden.

  • @vidright
    @vidright 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    NO missing shot with iron sights. Congrats SIG (and Mr. Chan!)

    • @stefankrebs7593
      @stefankrebs7593 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This prooves that the SG550 is a very precise weapon. We🇨🇭 are trained in shooting

    • @vidright
      @vidright ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stefankrebs7593 Das sehe ich genau so. Das 550 ist zwar teuer in der Produktion aber auch sehr präzise. Wir hatten noch das G3 während meiner Zeit in der Bundeswehr. Die Ausführungen mit Polygonlauf schossen auch sehr präzise, aber an das 550er kamen sie wohl nicht heran.

  • @Softload3r
    @Softload3r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    04:32 "Schweizer Qualität" you said and pronounced that really well, I'm impressed! haha Nice shooting too!

  • @pitch71
    @pitch71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was trained on the Stgw 57 and later an the Stgw 90. Loved both of them

  • @fredericjaquet3729
    @fredericjaquet3729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    So happy to watch a video about the assault rifle I used during my mandatory service in the infantry ! By the way, happy to see you wearing a genuine swiss BDU 😊👍🏻
    Watched 7 minutes but I have to go to work, I'll watch the end when coming back. Happy independence day guys !

    • @828enigma6
      @828enigma6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for remembering our nation's birth day.

  • @lorenzi.2387
    @lorenzi.2387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Great work, greetings from Switzerland from a former Panzergrenadier that loves his 550. I use an m4 14.5’ for dynamic shooting, the weight difference is quite big and it’s way less front heavy. But I think in the end training makes the big difference. I believe there’s a big bias in reagards on what you were trained on. Regarding the diopter. Setting one open sight to up to 100m and for night shooting with the tritium inserts, I only used it for night shooting. Position 2 which could be used from 0-300m if zeroed at 36m with the army issue 556 ammo. 2 for 200m point shooting. red 3 white 4 theres was a screw which should removed for combat, theres a storage for the screw in the butt stock if unfolded. It was supposed taken out for combat shooting which then offered a bigger peek through. Leave in the screw for 300m precision shooting it only need adjustment to the aiming points, it shot about a feet higher. 3 for 300 point shooting. So there are many ways to use the same diopter. But many people bever read the manual which is handed out to every soldier with the rifle. Regarding the muzzle break the cone behind it offers an ideal seal for surpressors, can’t recal who manufactured them. The bajonet lug was also used for the grenade launcher.For more info feel free to drop me a message

  • @farmerbrown84
    @farmerbrown84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Interesting discussion. I have the 550 (PE90, 551 and 553) although at the moment I'm shooting a StGw-57/03 in competition. I also lost of bit of confidence in my PE90, since although it shot pretty well, it seemed to throw the odd shot on me that I could never explain or understand. I also blamed my eyesight, so I went for the 57/03 which allows a diopter on both ends of the rifle, rather than the front post on the PE90.
    Once, I took my PE-90 to a nearby testing range and got them to test it in a machine rest at 300m. After the test results came back, the tester told me to take the rifle, paint it blue and throw it in the nearest lake :-) (well, that's what I think he said - I'm naturalized Swiss). The blue paint was to ensure I never found it again. I didn't think the 300m group was that bad, but they have high standards.
    I have to say that the 551 SB is my favorite of the family. Mine has an ACOG on it, a 14.3" barrel, and it's just awesome out to 600m with the GP-90 ammo. There is also a long barreled version (-LB) with 17.8" barrel.

    • @fredEVOIX
      @fredEVOIX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      a 75y old regular shooter of my family faced the same thing he started shooting late in his life with the 90 (did the army as medic shot very little in his youth) and switched to the 57 later because he also felt his shot were thrown here and there, just did his mastery a few weeks ago and he's doing pretty consistant 10s big respect to him and another colleague who does the same with the sig pistol instead, fun fact I shot the 57 then 90 before army as young shooter but then...was the last regiment with the 57 in Switzerland...great to shoot not so great to carry around >< I hate the floppy handle

    • @farmerbrown84
      @farmerbrown84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@fredEVOIX I shot the 57 last Wednesday at practice. I thought I put 14 rounds in the magazine. I fired 4 sighters and pushed the match button to start the scored series.
      I then fired 1 x 9 and 8 x 10 for 89/90. I pulled the trigger on the final shot and the rifle went ">click

    • @jager6863
      @jager6863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The bipod attached to the handguard, the handguards themselves, in combination with the non-free floated barrel, allow any pressure to influence the impact of a shot. The AR-15 has the same issues and that is why the National Match guys in the past used a "Float Tube" under their handguards and a front sling swivel that is attached to it. If they didn't have that, the pressure from the shooting slings literally bends the barrel and influences the point of impact. Note that the US National Matches now allow a fixed $2,000 - 4.5x24mm Nightforce optic, with the Parallax set to 200 yards to be used in competition, as a lot of the old guys simply have issues with iron sights and their old eyes. If they were serious about our matches reflecting reality, they would have allowed only 4x ACOGs, but instead, they have a purpose built "Gamer Optic" for their National Match Game.

    • @mcantu197
      @mcantu197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What did the tester consider would have been a 'good' group?

    • @crono331
      @crono331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think now a front diopter is allowed. Seen a few at my schiessverein. Last FS a lady beside me scored a 70 points with a pe90 so equipped. My son shot 58 points, at 12 years old and with only 4 training session

  • @EricTheBody
    @EricTheBody 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    That’s a nice, clean, honest rifle. Great run!

  • @Dalesarty
    @Dalesarty 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great run, interviews and shout out to Mike. Awesome support of the community 👍👍.

  • @bigmedicine8042
    @bigmedicine8042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man. That's probably the best iron sighted service rifle shooting that I've seen.

  • @SuperMeatMachine
    @SuperMeatMachine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This episode is Othias length and damn well worth the watch

  • @Slim_Ch4rles
    @Slim_Ch4rles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love this channel. Great editing, great host, great shooting and I love seeing how these rifles from all of the world perform on the range in Henry's hands

  • @Pimentel2011
    @Pimentel2011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful run! So glad to finally see the first PA perfect run.

  • @shorty7943
    @shorty7943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally! I was waiting sooo long for this

  • @billyraydavis3400
    @billyraydavis3400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent rifle excellent markmanship thank you for all the hard work on the videos

  • @paulkube3901
    @paulkube3901 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Congrats on the clean shoot Henry! Wonderful production. Great combination of technical, practical and facts, with enough levity sprinkled in to keep it rolling.
    Thanks for your professionalism across the board.

  • @joachimmorgenthau8678
    @joachimmorgenthau8678 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really like how you get into the language discussion, you really went over the books, well done. big thumbs up!!!

  • @bobrowley4346
    @bobrowley4346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, outstanding! This channel is pure gold, keep up the fantastic work.

  • @bmagada
    @bmagada 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The overall quality of the videos you guys produce has increased in massive steps. Always happy to see the notification....when youtube doesn't spaz out.

  • @tacticalmattfoley
    @tacticalmattfoley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sick and slick shooting, Henry. Wow! I learn something every time I watch a 9-hole Review's video. Carry on, Maestro!

  • @John-ro3vu
    @John-ro3vu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m really looking forward to the 551 video. This video was great and really had me wanting a Swiss SiG.

  • @w.s.9742
    @w.s.9742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I as a swiss.. ex servicemen.. am shedding a single tear of joy.

  • @Aldarris
    @Aldarris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    the 550 was my favorite weapon in cs 1.6 aesthetically so I am quite pleased to see this.

  • @moisesgarcia1495
    @moisesgarcia1495 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The precision components and sheer quality of the gun mechanism of the sg550 Swiss clock precision put in a awesome rifle!

  • @AN-cw6yg
    @AN-cw6yg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent content as always.

  • @michaelmcatee221
    @michaelmcatee221 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode! You guys have amazing content!!! Looking forward to the next pick one scenario.

  • @TheStephenTapp
    @TheStephenTapp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    As a pest control marksman with my day job (and night time thermal and IR) shooting predominately involving air arms to comply with noise restrictions and "TIGHT" urban safety considerations of projectile fall, I so value the technical content you offer as a team. Thank you so very much for your content, I learn every time you post.

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I just watched the run, and that is the FIRST clean run (that I recall anyway). A great rifle and shooter, and the conditions were perfect!

  • @sarahshowalter9539
    @sarahshowalter9539 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the attention to detail here and first hand information.

  • @vchalmel
    @vchalmel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's great that you narrate your choices of elevation and point of aim.

  • @dtcb1
    @dtcb1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    have been waiting to finally see a practical shooting of the sig550.
    it is the only rifle I've ever worked with and it's the only rifle I ever would want to work with.
    much appreciate to you and supporters.

  • @samuelreynaud361
    @samuelreynaud361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the smile on his face when he speaks about the Stgw90. It's a lovely rifle, had a blast with mine :)

  • @CHenry1951
    @CHenry1951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Henry & Josh, this was an outstanding video....................... It opened my eyes to the SIG 550, thanks for sharing !!

  • @karsonbranham3900
    @karsonbranham3900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very captivating! Has me wanting to find a sg550 for sure! Very good shooting as well as all the other accolades.

  • @Lomi311
    @Lomi311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I’ve always thought of the 550 as the coolest .556 rifle. Obviously, cool guns are always the best guns. ; )

  • @matthewpahl7516
    @matthewpahl7516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    An elegant weapon for a more civilized age.

  • @-jimmyjames
    @-jimmyjames 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely enjoy your shooting and deep dive bedtime stories. Slept like baby. Bravo... Bravo!!! Keep them coming

  • @0megaJB
    @0megaJB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for Forgotten Weapons sending me here. I absolutely love the Sig 550 and would love to own one some day. The lack of magazines is the only thing keeping me from getting one at the moment.

  • @mustdriveslower
    @mustdriveslower 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Very surprised at this outstanding run using triple G ammo. I have used a lot of GGG in 7.62 and found them to be not up to competition use. The brass is good for reloading despite the inconvenience of the crimped primers, though. Amazing result on 5.56! Well shot Henry.

  • @darklyripley6138
    @darklyripley6138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey guys, love the video! I was wondering if since you’ve started adding discussions at the end, if you could add time stamps in the description. That way we could see different parts of the conversation. This time stamp is talking about the history. This time stamp is about performance, ect.

  • @mikem.s.1183
    @mikem.s.1183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Very well thought out.

  • @sharp340
    @sharp340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video, it was so interesting to hear about Pascal experience with the swiss army

  • @andik.4235
    @andik.4235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As always nice shooting. The discussion was long but interesting and honest.
    Even if the StGw 90 may be behind the curve, it is still a blast to shoot, and even after way over 500 shots without cleaning it runs without any issue and with the same accuracy.

  • @darthtyranus378
    @darthtyranus378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this rifle takes everything we know about accuracy, throws it all out the window and just rocks. perhaps it's magic.

  • @greenmagic8ball198
    @greenmagic8ball198 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toller Arbeit Kamerad! Mach weiter so! :D

  • @bassbyrdtx
    @bassbyrdtx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    y'all sold me on the K31. Glad to see the newer Swiss offerings are just as amazing.

  • @bruiser0159
    @bruiser0159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is definitely a Bucket List Firearm I need for My Collection..👌🏼

  • @kippamip
    @kippamip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looks wise it kinda reminds me of an SLR. Fantastic run and looks like a nice rifle. Looks like it's gotta hit the speedway.
    Great content as always Henry and Josh. I'm presuming you might get the new US service rifle on the course soon as its doing the rounds and gun Jesus had a hold of it not so long ago. 🤔✌🏼🇬🇧

  • @davidstevens6117
    @davidstevens6117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video! I learned a lot about these fine weapons.

  • @Nutinwrkz
    @Nutinwrkz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Consistently the best gun content on TH-cam. Flat out.

  • @FreerideHellDriver
    @FreerideHellDriver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hello from Switzerland, very nice shooting Gentlemen 👌

  • @marie-noellebaechler1433
    @marie-noellebaechler1433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for this fascinating video.
    It's very nice to see that the export version of the PE90 is the only rifle with wich you were able to achieve a perfect. score!
    Just a few more points:
    - the use of 20 rounds magazines is intentional. It helps soldiers keeping a lower silouette on the ground.
    - it is now possible to find aftermarket free floating handguards (Brugger & Thomet)
    - the PE 90 is the self loading version of an ordonnance rifle. Of course, full match versions of AR-15 can be a lot more accurate and have a much longer range (especially. In 6.5 grendel). But the comparison is not fair (a match rifle does not have the same requirements than an ordnance rifle).

  • @aicragej
    @aicragej 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect Full Combo :) Lovely trails as well, they were mesmerizing

  • @rolfspuler1056
    @rolfspuler1056 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Have one of those at home. We were the first recruits in the early 90ties that got this rifle in the Swiss Army. It's a great. Love it.

  • @noah-vk7zc
    @noah-vk7zc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    We had a few 14 year olds in our "jungschützen" (youth shooter program financed by the swiss army) that shot 10s and 9s (~4-8") groups at 300m all day long. The rifles we got from the army were definetly not 1moa rifles anymore but they still did their job if you did yours.
    A freshly barreld PE/Stgw90 in the right hands will shoot 2-4" groups at 300m very very consistently. It might not be a 0.5moa ultra high grade olympic competition rifle but its plenty accurate while still beeing pretty reliable and durable.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To everybody's complete lack or surprise a West European country with a decently high GPD per capita has a service rifle that is plenty good at shooting bogies dead at normal combat ranges :P

    • @SwissBloke
      @SwissBloke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well the GP90 datasheet shows 21mm @100m and 63 @300m so that's actually sub-MOA. And you can get SWISS P Target that are 17mm @300m

    • @SwissBloke
      @SwissBloke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Random Pickle out-of-factory they're 3.5k, used about 1.5k tops

    • @billsmith3118
      @billsmith3118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SwissBloke i looked for ages and the only ones i found for 1.5k were worn out and looked rather abused. i would say a range of 2000 - 2300 is more realistic, but new black 550-1 can be bought from la gardere for around 2600 when they have stock.

    • @SwissBloke
      @SwissBloke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billsmith3118 I've found multiples that were nice at that price point; some even came with diopter and were gauged.
      I wouldn't trust Lagardère on that, they're crooks

  • @YungStinkyWinky
    @YungStinkyWinky 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First video of yours that I've seen. Subscribed! I really like your presentation and insight. Canadian here, who just bought a FAMAE SG-543 and I am ecstatic to hear such a strong review of this rifle/platform.

  • @menacereconnaissance7406
    @menacereconnaissance7406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for this ❤

  • @AdamBorseti
    @AdamBorseti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always loved the look of the 550

  • @AllroundSwizzy
    @AllroundSwizzy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We had the pleasure to have a long range day where we shot at 600m ...so around 650y, with the optic & a tracer round every other round. You can see where the first shot goes and every other shot after that is almost a guaranteed hit. Never had it jam on me, never had any issues except for rubber parts getting old & worn down. Granted, we (i) clean it after every use.

  • @gewamser
    @gewamser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am blessed to have one of these rifles, and your accuracy results does not surprise me at all! In my experience the ammo choice has more to do with accuracy than the rifle itself. It will FUNCTION with any ammo you put in it. It was designed to function 100% in horrid arctic mountain weather, so it is not tightly mfg. The second biggest obstacle is the unusual Swiss trigger set up….the Swiss swear by it, but it takes getting used to. A great video. You people really know what you are doing.

  • @kasperv967
    @kasperv967 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great shooting, great calls, great rifle!

  • @nikolasbodmer6001
    @nikolasbodmer6001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The awsome thing is, im in the swiss army and you are wearing my bace patch. I love the STGW 90 the only problem is the weight. the accuracy is amazing with iron sights. All of us are trained to shoot at 300m, however we have soliders named KDO's which are like Designated marksman which have the same rifle but with a scope on it, there range is 600m.
    Nice Vid
    🙂

    • @huhnesser
      @huhnesser ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Birmensdorf esch es lebe gsi

    • @stefankrebs7593
      @stefankrebs7593 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only problem is the weight!? Try the SIG 510 /Stgw 57 then.. ;-)

    • @Vins9393
      @Vins9393 ปีที่แล้ว

      If they would have given me a scope ... 300m with an iron scope, when you get 30 and you go for your last shooting yearly test (i finished repetition courses in 2018)... my eyes get worse and worse 😂 hope not to get too many 0 in my scoreboard

  • @nikitaananjevas1614
    @nikitaananjevas1614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Rifle is incredible. But our ammo is also very good. Awesome shooting by you, guys!

    • @Stefan-im2bx
      @Stefan-im2bx หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hast du das mitbekommen, haben die unsere Munition verwendet? Oder Nato Munition

    • @nikitaananjevas1614
      @nikitaananjevas1614 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Stefan-im2bx They used Lithuanian made (GGG ammo factory - Giraitės Ginkluotės Gamykla) 55gr FMJ munition for commercial use. Combat munition by GGG 5,56 NATO ball is heavier (62 gr) and I am not sure if it's eligible for civilian market. GGG installed new machinery back in early 2000s for entire production and quality control.

  • @davewagner3013
    @davewagner3013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review!

  • @Anino_Makata
    @Anino_Makata 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where Belgium stumbled with the SCAR 17, Switzerland picked up with the SG 550. Congrats, Henry and Josh!

  • @alexsis1778
    @alexsis1778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Maybe its just me but would have loved to see a rifle that just made a perfect score on the regular course at least attempt some of the longer range targets. I know 5.56 isn't really intended to be engaging targets beyond 500 yards, especially with iron sights, and starts to have ballistic issues but clearly the rifle is capable of at least making an attempt.

  • @GammaRayTrae
    @GammaRayTrae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Man I’ve always wanted one of these guns. Love the look of it and I’m shocked you got a clean run with iron sights with it. Ready to see the MCX get a run

    • @samuelreynaud361
      @samuelreynaud361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Here in switzerland you can buy one everywhere for cheap. Hope you get your hands on one. It's a blast !

    • @jacksonthompson7099
      @jacksonthompson7099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@samuelreynaud361 there is a key word tho good sir "in Switzerland" we WIIISH here in the US to have your guys arms and ammo really cheap haha hello from Oklahoma!!

  • @manatoa1
    @manatoa1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great episode, thanks

  • @CaptShocker
    @CaptShocker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I honestly wasn't aware that there were no "clean" runs prior to this. And to clean on a 223..... Nice job 👌

    • @sorashirogami1729
      @sorashirogami1729 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not even the sniper variant of this gun got a clean run.

  • @nagarenius
    @nagarenius ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I really hope you are getting your hands on a STGW 57 or SG 510, with the 7,5mm x 55mm (GP11) ammo, the best gun i shot.
    The STGW 90 or SG550 is also very accurate, but the STGW 57 got a little more punch to it, loved it. :D
    Very good video greets from Switzerland. :D

  • @hoesi666
    @hoesi666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content👍 greetings from switzerland🤙

  • @sarahshowalter9539
    @sarahshowalter9539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After watching that I have to subscribe. That was some really good shooting!

  • @240pixel
    @240pixel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    B&T APC223 would be another cool Swiss rifle to see. I wish those were more common

  • @boydseabiscuit2635
    @boydseabiscuit2635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    still the best 5.56 rifle after so many years

    • @surfingtothestars
      @surfingtothestars 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      debatable but ok...

    • @surfingtothestars
      @surfingtothestars 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @kevin pierson lots of 5.56 rifles out there. Don't get me wrong, I'll take a SG 550 to hell and back but there's lots of other options as well

  • @lordferum9921
    @lordferum9921 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    as a swiss i am happy and proud how happy and proud you are about your own PE90 :D
    (about 29:00 )

  • @arkbuilder2012
    @arkbuilder2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you just demonstrated my go-to-war rifle. That was impressive by any measure.

  • @servicerifle16
    @servicerifle16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love to see you revisit the Steyr AUG with interviews of Austrian, Australian or Irish soldiers that used it.

    • @greg5095
      @greg5095 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd like to see one of the newer Lithgow arms aug

  • @sapico72
    @sapico72 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It took Pascal quite a while to realize that his rifle was not secured until 29:46. That would have gotten him into a lot of trouble, i.p. being an officer! And yes, I was in the swiss army too.

  • @williamwallace7656
    @williamwallace7656 ปีที่แล้ว

    1993 I got this fantastic gun in the army services, thousend of shots later, it still works perfect.
    Great army tool.
    Greets from Switzerland.
    Pat

  • @peten6691
    @peten6691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great shooting and spotting.

  • @removollenweider5613
    @removollenweider5613 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice Guy!! Schweizer Qualität. Grüsse aus Neuhausem am Rheinfall…

  • @warthog2548
    @warthog2548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video!!! This brings memories...
    I started my military service in Switzerland with this rifle's predecessor, the Stgw 57. After a few years, during my yearly 2 weeks of military service, probably in 94 or 95 (I was not in a first-line unit, handling coms for an air defence batallion HQ, hence why I still had the "older" rifle for a few years after this one was put into service), I was issued with a Stgw 90, brand new.
    We spent most of the day learning how the rifle operates, its components and how to take it apart. Halfway through the afternoon, we headed to the range for a few rounds at 300 meters (standard distance in the Swiss Army). The targets had an electronic display showing where you hit. On my VERY FIRST shot, right out of the box, I hit a perfect bullseye! The display lit up and flashed like a Christmas tree! I knew that it could unfortunately only go downhill from there...
    I never hit a perfect bullseye ever again, until I had to hand it over at the end of my military service. I had very good results with it all along, this rifle is very accurate and a joy to shoot with, but I never managed to replicate that first shot. Glad you could enjoy it too!!
    (I'm from the French-speaking part of Switzerland, and regarding the hoch-deutsch vs. Schwyzertütch (Swiss-german) difference, we usually say that Schwyzertütch is not a language, it's a throat disease... ;-))

    • @SwissFusilier
      @SwissFusilier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pour les romands, c'est la même chose ;)

    • @alexandergutfeldt1144
      @alexandergutfeldt1144 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My experience with the Stgw 90 is very similar. I too learned on the Stgw 57 first in the Jungschützen Kurs, then in basic training ( ER Cyclist, Romont 1986) and was handed a new rifle in ~91 or 92. I've shot more than one bulls eye .. but then I probably got to shoot it more often. Definitely type 2 fun!

    • @warthog2548
      @warthog2548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexandergutfeldt1144 Thanks Alex, I got quite a few of the "lesser bullseye" along the years: this is where the display lights up all around for a second, then just one light dot remains to show you where you hit compared to the exact centre. That famous one time on my first Stgw 90 shot though, the whole thing lit up and flashed a few times (all lights), then all remained lit... as far as I remember, because as mentioned, I only saw it once in my life! 😂
      I'm pretty sure you shot a whole lot more rounds in Cyclist than we ever did in Air defense indeed, although I would have assumed most of your "extra" rounds came in the field instead of at the range. You are probably just a better shot than I am!

  • @Juraberg
    @Juraberg ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is first class!
    I stick to my Stge 57 that I was handed out as a recruit. I still use it on the range. I love it.
    I enjoyed this interesting review of the Stgw 90.

  • @BobSwagger30.06
    @BobSwagger30.06 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Beautiful rifle.

  • @giomoscioni9949
    @giomoscioni9949 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Back in 1991 when I did my Military Service in Switzerland in an elite troop (Panzer Grenadier) we were the first ones to get the FASS90, an incredible rifle and extremely precise. We were told back in the day by our superiors who did the Swiss Raid Commando course that SIG developed the weapon taking the best of several parts from the (AK, M16, Galil, and others). Nevertheless, we were all amazed about its accuracy at long range. To be honest it was not hard to hit the mid-top torso on a 300m target (without scope) using the bipod. I miss my rifle number 6520.

    • @Vins9393
      @Vins9393 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I give you mine then... 5415

  • @Kosmos.
    @Kosmos. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’d be very interested in you both revisiting earlier rifles and runs and seeing if maybe Henry’s 2 years of practice running this course would affect how they fair differently

  • @kmccabe1962
    @kmccabe1962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly a fantastic video

  • @timgesford867
    @timgesford867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good show. I have been watching your channel for some time now and really enjoy it. Really have liked the french weapons and some of the surplus guns. Could you possibly do a practical accuracy run on a Cetme L? That would be interesting. Thanks for all you are doing. Tim

  • @thomasschneeberger7661
    @thomasschneeberger7661 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It performed very well with the 55 grn bullet despite the barrell is intended for 63 grn bullets. Greetings from Switzerland