Electric motor, his speed goes up and he bridges the gap but his watts drop to under 300W. Do your watts normally go down when you accelerating? Nope that's right not unless you are on an E-bike.
Now we have Pogacar not even out of breath! Doped and on a motor bike no doubt, one of the most corrupt sports out there at the moment. No way 3 riders are in a different league to everyone else, no way.
@@philstevens3821not defending Froome here but that’s what happens when you move to bigger sprockets in the rear cassette, especially moving a couple quickly and already spinning fasts
On a climb like that, when putting out 500-600 watts, you don't drop someone, keep your speed up, and have your watts drop to 225. If you could put out 225 watts and drop the the others, we'd all be riding the Tour. I've ridden with top pros, and yes, they are different. Resting heart rates of 32, which can go to 175. Leg sled machine with 10 45 pound weights on a side. I get it. Some people are genetically gifted, and superior athletes. But, your power doesn't go down when you are accelerating up a hill. It takes more power to go faster while going up a hill. Having watts decrease while accelerating on a hill can only mean, an e motor was in use. Seemed preposterous then, but now that e tech is widespread, we were just not aware of the tech. Too bad. The capes our heroes were wearing were just photoshopped in, apparently.
Every single "advance" in pro cycling tech for the last 2 decades has been to facilitate the hiding, & use of, electric motors. The UCI testing protocols are a joke too, so they are in on it.
Seán Kelly - "When Sky take the pace..." (I initially heard it as .."When Sky take the piss" ... BECAUSE that's what they WERE doing when Froome clicked on the motor ...
Exactly! People really can't even realize that this video is a huge load of bullshit: at the time, the riders didn't have potentiometers on their cranks, that data was added later based on calculations and presumed averages! They absolutely cannot be taken as if they were the Gospel to shoot sentences and absolute statements!
Según Antoine Vayer, ex director de Festina, equipo de finales de los noventa tristemente célebre por sus leyendas de dopaje, el a la postre campeón del Tour registró en esa etapa una potencia de 466 vatios en sus piernas. Un ciclista que registre entre 410 y 430 ya es sospechoso, alguien que roce los 450 ya es milagroso, pero quien supere este número ya debe ser declarado un mutante..
DrVinylBcn .....De acuerdo eso sucede pero solo por segundos y lo superan pero no por mucho y no tantas veces y en todo caso superarlo pues en pista tiene cierta facilidad pues es full velocidad explosiva momentanea y en un velodromoo es decir superficie plana (y recuerde que hay pocas pruebas de fondo en pista), en lances ejecutados por hombres pesados musculosos (hipertrofia de corazon) igual sucede eso con atletas de 100 0 200 mts planos que son personas longilineas pero musculosas y sprintan impresionante pero solo por poco tiempo, pero los ciclistas de ruta no tienen sus organismos asi formados, esto es una carrera de fondo y realizar varias aceleraciones con esa cadenciaa es muy fuera de lugar aun entre ciclistas profesionales que quizá podrán acelerar, intentar desprenderse pero no con ese nivel de aceleración, aqui en este caso usted ve claramentee dos lecturas muy irregulares que no concuerdan en logica humana y se repiten en 3 ocasiones con un calor muy pesado, con muchos kms encima de las piernas y en pleno ascensoo donde el oxigeno no es que abunde y sobrepasar los 500 watts!!, como es posiblee mantener esa cadencia!! y acelerar tantas veces con tal facilidad, y mas aún subiendo y bajando la cabeza que corta un poco la inhalacion de aire, ademas como arrastra esa masa pues ese tipo pesa casi 70 kgs y el otro corredor que creo es Quintana (ese Colombiano creo que no es cualquiera en los ascensos pues hasta donde se sabe y se ha visto es uno de los mejores escaladores de estos tiempoos) pues él pesa casi 20 kilos menoos y sus valores si van acorde a la medicina deportiva que aunque son igual impresionantes se entiende en el caso de él pues es un gran fondistaa muy competitivo! pero todo lo demás con el sr froome por favoor!!.......Comprenda, no digo esto ni como hater ni nada, froome es un corredor destacado pero es que hay algo muy raro en todo eso.....despues de lo sucedido con el uso pasando los limites permitidos (pero que deben ser autorizados y certificados previamente) de salbutamol y de forma muy extendida en la vuelta 2017 por parte de sky con froome pues no sé si todo se reduce a una posible mezcla quimica en el inhalador pero si él es en realidad asmatico entonces como corrió el giro que ganó porque estuvo en esta ocasión muy lleno de lluvia y hasta nieve en la primera y segunda semana y eso es dañino para un asmatico pues no podria mantener un ritmo competitivo como el que mostró, es mas nada mas observe que según mediciones realizadas en pleno giro él logro mantener la misma cadencia y watiaje muy altos en esa etapa en la que realizo un ataque muy lejano en el que nunca lo alcanzaron desde el lote perseguidor, eso es muy fuera de lugar casi 70 kms de cabalgata en solitario y con la misma cadencia y watiajje sin variaciones como si fuera un robot?, pues no entiendo.... saludos!
i don't know if it's mechanical doping or not, But what is certain is that nobody can accelerate like that while his heart rate stays stable, no way! that data is either wrong or something strange is going on there. Just try people, go on a ride and in the middle of a climb accelerate simulating an attack and you'll see your heart rate going through the roof
//AOD\\ the heart rate does not change quickly... if you accelarte when you are going close to your threshold the heart rate will rimain stable (especilly when you are very trained).
You can clearly see Froome is keeping up the rpms of the electric motor because with electric motor propulsion the weird fact is you cannot go pedal at a faster rpm and also not at a slower rpm So thats why he is maintaining the same rpm which is weird he also looks down all the time at his bottom bracket yes you motor doping is doing its job FROOOOOOOM
Wow, if you watch it couple of time it is clear as day, tht he switches it on and off for surges, no question about it. I'm also rewatching after an interview with Greg Lemond. And his heart rate didn't even skip a beat, during that first surge in 10-30 sec, he should go at least 20bpm more considering his a pro athelte, anyone else would be hitting their max HR for couple seconds, and his stood still lol.
any " good amateur " riding with datas knows this : it is simply impossible to increase speed riding uphill and see your wattage decrease LOL also it is impossible to drop other top riders just at this level of wattage. What a joke
Simple fix........all bikes are built up with inspectors present.....then bikes are under lock and key and on race day released to teams with inspector assigned to each team while they do final adjustments so no bike can be altered. Voila! The UCI has the money to hire oversight personnel to do this.
My bikes got a motor on it but iTs bigger than Froomes, so i rode that Stage faster than Froome, in fact the fastest ever recorded. Im a much better athlete than froome and i dont get juiced up to the gills either & my walts were well below 50. Didnt even get out of breath. All cyclists are cheating doping motorbike riders 😂
Not even a Ferrari could have accelereted so fast. Froome one of the biggest all time doped.
Electric motor, his speed goes up and he bridges the gap but his watts drop to under 300W. Do your watts normally go down when you accelerating? Nope that's right not unless you are on an E-bike.
@@WillPower46 one fact is established, that his team got a delivery of e-bikes.
Now we have Pogacar not even out of breath! Doped and on a motor bike no doubt, one of the most corrupt sports out there at the moment. No way 3 riders are in a different league to everyone else, no way.
@@cliveelliott2575 i totally agree with you.
@@cliveelliott2575 I'm afraid I also have my doubts, very sad today
Eight seconds in and you look at Froome’s cadence, you can clearly see that it doesn’t match his speed.
Right..so he is pushing 200-300 W on instances and moving as he is pushing 800 W
The ‘watts’ are just something somebody online made up, sky didn’t release this kind of data lol
No one can drop Cantador like this. G Lemond said that Froome was on a motor bike this day. He knows what he is saying. .
Greg Lemond knows nothing
Maybe only a Contador who hadn't eaten a "dodgy" steak?! Lol
@@papalegba6796 if you want to treat Lemond this way, because you're inadequate.
If you look at frooms data his rpm rose but his wattage decreased. Meaning he was peddling faster but not pushing harder. Definitely a motor
@@philstevens3821not defending Froome here but that’s what happens when you move to bigger sprockets in the rear cassette, especially moving a couple quickly and already spinning fasts
Never forget everyone's mouth dropping open and saying WTF?????
Was this the ride Lemond talked about, where Froome was cranking an rpm that would have seen him redline really fast even on a flat with a low gear?
I think so
On a climb like that, when putting out 500-600 watts, you don't drop someone, keep your speed up, and have your watts drop to 225. If you could put out 225 watts and drop the the others, we'd all be riding the Tour.
I've ridden with top pros, and yes, they are different. Resting heart rates of 32, which can go to 175. Leg sled machine with 10 45 pound weights on a side. I get it. Some people are genetically gifted, and superior athletes. But, your power doesn't go down when you are accelerating up a hill. It takes more power to go faster while going up a hill. Having watts decrease while accelerating on a hill can only mean, an e motor was in use. Seemed preposterous then, but now that e tech is widespread, we were just not aware of the tech. Too bad. The capes our heroes were wearing were just photoshopped in, apparently.
Every single "advance" in pro cycling tech for the last 2 decades has been to facilitate the hiding, & use of, electric motors. The UCI testing protocols are a joke too, so they are in on it.
Seán Kelly - "When Sky take the pace..." (I initially heard it as .."When Sky take the piss" ... BECAUSE that's what they WERE doing when Froome clicked on the motor ...
Chris Vroome Vroome Vroomed right by him.
Do we know that the power data here are real?
Love how motors make you go Vroom!
Where is the data coming from? Data looks wrong….probably is
Exactly! People really can't even realize that this video is a huge load of bullshit: at the time, the riders didn't have potentiometers on their cranks, that data was added later based on calculations and presumed averages! They absolutely cannot be taken as if they were the Gospel to shoot sentences and absolute statements!
Is there a separate Tour for motorbikes?
Contador standing.
Froome seated.
What else ? Maybe if Froome put on a seatbelt.
😂
Heart rate didn't budge, impossible.
Well if you watch his heart rate even went down a bit after the attack 🤷♂️🤣
Data is wrong obviously
Según Antoine Vayer, ex director de Festina, equipo de finales de los noventa tristemente célebre por sus leyendas de dopaje, el a la postre campeón del Tour registró en esa etapa una potencia de 466 vatios en sus piernas. Un ciclista que registre entre 410 y 430 ya es sospechoso, alguien que roce los 450 ya es milagroso, pero quien supere este número ya debe ser declarado un mutante..
EMILIO LEON Pues en ciclismo de pista, se superan.
DrVinylBcn .....De acuerdo eso sucede pero solo por segundos y lo superan pero no por mucho y no tantas veces y en todo caso superarlo pues en pista tiene cierta facilidad pues es full velocidad explosiva momentanea y en un velodromoo es decir superficie plana (y recuerde que hay pocas pruebas de fondo en pista), en lances ejecutados por hombres pesados musculosos (hipertrofia de corazon) igual sucede eso con atletas de 100 0 200 mts planos que son personas longilineas pero musculosas y sprintan impresionante pero solo por poco tiempo, pero los ciclistas de ruta no tienen sus organismos asi formados, esto es una carrera de fondo y realizar varias aceleraciones con esa cadenciaa es muy fuera de lugar aun entre ciclistas profesionales que quizá podrán acelerar, intentar desprenderse pero no con ese nivel de aceleración, aqui en este caso usted ve claramentee dos lecturas muy irregulares que no concuerdan en logica humana y se repiten en 3 ocasiones con un calor muy pesado, con muchos kms encima de las piernas y en pleno ascensoo donde el oxigeno no es que abunde y sobrepasar los 500 watts!!, como es posiblee mantener esa cadencia!! y acelerar tantas veces con tal facilidad, y mas aún subiendo y bajando la cabeza que corta un poco la inhalacion de aire, ademas como arrastra esa masa pues ese tipo pesa casi 70 kgs y el otro corredor que creo es Quintana (ese Colombiano creo que no es cualquiera en los ascensos pues hasta donde se sabe y se ha visto es uno de los mejores escaladores de estos tiempoos) pues él pesa casi 20 kilos menoos y sus valores si van acorde a la medicina deportiva que aunque son igual impresionantes se entiende en el caso de él pues es un gran fondistaa muy competitivo! pero todo lo demás con el sr froome por favoor!!.......Comprenda, no digo esto ni como hater ni nada, froome es un corredor destacado pero es que hay algo muy raro en todo eso.....despues de lo sucedido con el uso pasando los limites permitidos (pero que deben ser autorizados y certificados previamente) de salbutamol y de forma muy extendida en la vuelta 2017 por parte de sky con froome pues no sé si todo se reduce a una posible mezcla quimica en el inhalador pero si él es en realidad asmatico entonces como corrió el giro que ganó porque estuvo en esta ocasión muy lleno de lluvia y hasta nieve en la primera y segunda semana y eso es dañino para un asmatico pues no podria mantener un ritmo competitivo como el que mostró, es mas nada mas observe que según mediciones realizadas en pleno giro él logro mantener la misma cadencia y watiaje muy altos en esa etapa en la que realizo un ataque muy lejano en el que nunca lo alcanzaron desde el lote perseguidor, eso es muy fuera de lugar casi 70 kms de cabalgata en solitario y con la misma cadencia y watiajje sin variaciones como si fuera un robot?, pues no entiendo....
saludos!
Motor eléctrico sospecho.
Not normal
Froome on his e-bike 😂
Funny how everyone is saying this since Lemond said it. I never heard anyone say this before that point. All jump on Lemonds bandwagon.
@@cyclingartist6827 no I knew before then. It's obvious. But Nice Try eh? 😂
Attacks with sustainable 300w and pulls away??? To pull away in a TDF hillclimb you have to be holding closer to 500w so where is the missing 200w 🤔
That's mechanical doping! No matter what hotsauce he's on, nothing can make your heart rate stay stable during a 300W surge like that @_@
i don't know if it's mechanical doping or not, But what is certain is that nobody can accelerate like that while his heart rate stays stable, no way! that data is either wrong or something strange is going on there. Just try people, go on a ride and in the middle of a climb accelerate simulating an attack and you'll see your heart rate going through the roof
//AOD\\ the heart rate does not change quickly... if you accelarte when you are going close to your threshold the heart rate will rimain stable (especilly when you are very trained).
And now he got caught during 2017 Vuelta haha
More importantly the bike rocks from side to side when you do a surge like that.
Great encore in the 2018 Giro; even more ridiculous than this effort
You can clearly see Froome is keeping up the rpms of the electric motor because with electric motor propulsion the weird fact is you cannot go pedal at a faster rpm and also not at a slower rpm
So thats why he is maintaining the same rpm which is weird he also looks down all the time at his bottom bracket yes you motor doping is doing its job FROOOOOOOM
Never got off his saddle ?
Does not look natural in the least!
Low heart rate, characteristic of epo doping
Engine doping
He stopped winning after 2018 X Raying of bikes LOL
He was in INTENSIVE CARE in 2019 you prat
Weird huh
Wow, if you watch it couple of time it is clear as day, tht he switches it on and off for surges, no question about it. I'm also rewatching after an interview with Greg Lemond. And his heart rate didn't even skip a beat, during that first surge in 10-30 sec, he should go at least 20bpm more considering his a pro athelte, anyone else would be hitting their max HR for couple seconds, and his stood still lol.
Ummm, his watts dropped like a rock as he accelerated to 30 mph uphill?
V tec kicked in
minuto 1:53 registro 1015 vatios..
tenia un motor! no hay de otra...
EMILIO LEON puede ser fallo de lectura.
He’s probably just asthmatic, leave him alone! 😂
Turn the motor on and off you go Chris
Tour de motorbikes. Sport ist dead forever. Since decades with this Motor cheating.
The constant cheating has made me thoroughly sick of pro-cycling.
It's a fake sport now, like WWE
Definitely had a motor
You can see him turning on a motor and suddenly his legs are flying. Ridiculous
Vous voyez bien que les bpm sont trop bas
How is it possible that his speed and cadence went up and his watts and heartrate went down? Very odd
any " good amateur " riding with datas knows this : it is simply impossible to increase speed riding uphill and see your wattage decrease LOL also it is impossible to drop other top riders just at this level of wattage. What a joke
Not possible
Doping big time.
A massive attack and his heart rate stays the same. WTF!?
Froome claimed a max heart rate of about 165 at this time so he is not actually far off his limit.
Froome has a low max heart rate.
Not to mention that he never attacked like this ever again. Attacking purely from the seated position?
It's too good to be true.
MOTOR
Always be suspicious....they are professional riders....so to drop some one like they have flat tires....come on
It’s so hilariously ridiculous how obvious it is.
Froome bike have motor look at the rpm they have the ram but frome speed is different.
...when I think I'm going well uphill with my daughter on the tag along, then some obese dude goes past on an e-bike cruiser.
dr doping
No dope can do that; it's a motorcycle
I wish I could afford e bike
400+ watts at 160 bpm....
Simple fix........all bikes are built up with inspectors present.....then bikes are under lock and key and on race day released to teams with inspector assigned to each team while they do final adjustments so no bike can be altered. Voila! The UCI has the money to hire oversight personnel to do this.
Motoring, barely an increase in heart rate
Yeah this one is suspicious, but no more than what Jumbo Vista have been up to the last two years or so
how sad that the announcers are taken in.
Do you think that if you commentate for a living, and you know what is going on, that you're going to expose the sport that pays your salary? Really?
Motor
motor bike
Contadors drugs can't match Froomes motorbike
Well, this is just an opinion. But it exactly looks like using an eBike. Ridiculous.
My bikes got a motor on it but iTs bigger than Froomes, so i rode that Stage faster than Froome, in fact the fastest ever recorded. Im a much better athlete than froome and i dont get juiced up to the gills either & my walts were well below 50. Didnt even get out of breath. All cyclists are cheating doping motorbike riders 😂
He's really a cheat......
Cheater !
not bad, but top shelf zwift racers would destroy this field in a virtual simulation.
Its totally normal. I worked with froome and Sky. He is a beast for real !
Salbutemol