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- Greg LeMond is a three time winner of the Tour de France but how many more could he have won if it wasn't for EPO in the sport? This is an extract from the Anthony's conversation with Greg LeMond on the Roadman Podcast.
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If you want to hear more extracts from Greg, you should check out our clips channel. In this clip he talks about the moment EPO was introduced to the pro peleton th-cam.com/video/8lHsZ3uqwsQ/w-d-xo.html
Greg is such a great man and very friendly. Had a chance to ride with him and our common friend, Bob Swanson, in the hills near Auburn California.
After the UCI started using mobile heat sensors, the number of bike swaps dropped significantly. Before, the motor was run until the battery died as there was no possible way to detect the motor. Some were even used as weights to keep bicycles UCI weight legal.
Officer, we re good guys, we only used the motor to make the weight legal and lower the center of gravity for the safety of our rider. :D
Absolutely,do you remember when Ryder Hesjedal hit the deck,his rear wheel stopped for 2 seconds and then miraculously started turning again? He quickly grabbed his bike to hide it,but the motorcycle guy behind him saw that and drove across his back wheel and destroyed it.
He won a grand tour using this motor,wonder who else used this e-assistance 🤔
You really trust their pads as a heat scanner ? Sincerly ? It's full of bullshit. UCI controls and punishes only the "third rank" cyclists. With all the proofs we actually have with the 4 fantastics, nobody can say they are white like snow.
@@domestique3954so was the motor in the hub? Where was the battery?
@@2003wrx64 No,the motor was in the seat tube,driving the Shimano octalink axle while the battery
was hidden in the seatpost,sometimes in a bottle fixed to the seat tube.
I’m an engineer, I build custom e-bikes. I built a very fast ebike that you cannot tell by looking at it that it has a motor. Just one “go button “ under the bar tape and you have 500 extra watts. Easily cruises at + 30 mph. Will do 43 mph with a little effort.
The bikes are x-rayed.
@@semilog643 Actually, they use thermal scopes. A motor will glow red anywhere on the bike.
Patent and sell it to us!
@@Strange_Brewelectric motors can get close to 99% efficiency with the right design. Maybe a better motor + phase change cooling around motor and battery?
@@peterfireflylund I use silicone or electronics potting resin around the stator windings and battery pack
i watched the whole interview, it was captivating, great work roadman!
Thank you Michael. Appreciate you tuning in. I've a great interview coming this Thursday with Joe Friel
Yeah I was amazed at how much I was drawn into it!
Re bike changes… I think without googling at now that Michael rogers on the tour down under happened to find a bike with the same pedals, and bloody good brand as well, close to similar seat height etc etc… and swapped to that one to go and dominate. That when I first saw it years ago for me was like ‘….ok..!?’
Learning from motorsport. The use of calibrated powermeters can be obligatory and officially supplied and installed by the officials. Comparison of pedal power between competitors will determin, if external powersources are used.
micromotors...
The rumours are true, I used a motor to place 7th on a K.O.M during a commute to work in 2022.
Noooo
We knew it!!
How dare you desecrate the sanctity of the Strava leaderboards
Sure you did cupcake 🎉
Greg definitely juiced…no way you gonna win td n 3/4 lungs so shut up greg
It is great to have Lemond sharing his ideas, I really enjoyed the interview, but unfortunately hearsay in a hostile world of envy and deceit is worth next to zero. It would be good to really dive deep in this motor twilight zone, form a team of different investigators (technicians, physiologists, race commentators, cyclists etc ), stack up all the evidence for and against - thén draw a conclusion.
or look at the bikes
@@DavidDudley-yy2ui they are doing that for quite a while now. Only one with motor found so far - spare bike at women's cyclocross a few years back.
exactly which is why even Greg Lemond needs to be taken with a grain of salt....his time trial on the first aerobike is still the fastest, how was that done, considering that modern aerobikes are really much faster than the one he rode@@alphaniner3770
The proof is in Froome’s own data going up Ventoux. Putting in accelerations with increasing speed up relatively constant grade sections while his wattage numbers are simultaneously falling. That make no sense from a physics standpoint unless some artificial help has suddenly kicked in.
And Greg is correct about riding at 110 RPM’s being too high to be efficient performance wise if you are riding naturally. That cadence is only being ridden at competitively in a TDF climb if you have mechanical assistance helping you.
@@ivanboesky1520 most numbers that people bring up are inferred, not the actual measurements. Not sure if you ever cycled up the Ventoux - guess not - but wind plays quite a role there, hence the name. Bringing up numbers as actual proof, you have to make sure they are correct first. Still, if they are correct, yes we can start a discussion.
I became suspicious when Trump posted his record time up Angliru.
lol
My moment came when they said Biden got 2 billion votes.
Careful you might get the wingnut MAGA Biden haters to reply.
I never rode with Greg and never heard any rumors about him using PED's. But I was a top road racer back in the 80's and knew and rode with most of the top US riders then. I lived in Boulder at that time, and we all formed our close-knit bunch of guys and gals who were racing. The discussion of PED's, how, where, what, was constant. I used them and so did everyone else, they work really well. I would be very surprised if Lemond didn't.
Eric Zabel. Just said “of course i doped”
@@secretagent86that's different. Before EPO some doped some not, with Epo in the 90s when Zabel came up. the surplus in power was so high that you either got on or would never place in the near top. The pressure was completely different.
I live near were Team Telekom was medically enhanced and know the doctors. It was with Indurain ( he was Mr Epo) when everyone realized mid 90s you either hop on or get lost. Before that there was no organized doping at Team Telekom.
What Armstrong did different that separated him was that like a pro BB he mixed all kinds of Ped into huge cocktails including rounds etc. And if someone blew the whistle he did destroy their lives ( he destroyed several careers) or tried to
So you're just admitting that you suck like the rest of them?
Course you did.
Greg is spot on.
As a ex pro back in the late 80s
Doping was rith, back then .
Luckily I didn't do it but other team mates did . I was dropped from the team as I was too slow .
GL saying he never did ... he did ... look at the white of his eyes back then .. then look at Mikel Landa when he rode for team sky
Fair play man you can hold your head up chapeau
Yeah I think it's possible to become a pro without doping
But they will inevitably be spit out the back
I mean the doms are probably all doping too LOL
LeMond is awesome because he tells the truth and not afraid.
Greg is so informed about all aspects of cycle racing. A legend and yes he was robbed of more than one TDF.
If you think Greg didnt use PED's for his wins then you are DREAMING lol.
Watch how he sprinted down his USA team mate Boyer at the 82 worlds and what he then says about that in the interview...
@@durianriders You clearly haven't heard him saying he was done out of 2 tours due to rest of peleton's abuse. Clearly innocent.
@@Petespans His PEDs were out of date by 1991, never could quite figure out EPO
Lemond needs to realise he has as much uncertainty about his cycling career as anyone , doping was rife in the mid late 80s ….. fignon completed several TDF s “ clean “ but was doping , lemond for all we know did the same
Luigi on his motorcycle.... 😅 great stuff
I am about over Lemond’s holier than thou attitude.
I about over Joe Biden for President. At least Greg can speak with some authority.
I know they have wheelchair marathons in the special Olympics but is there any grand tours style or stage races planned for wheelchair athletes?
Fabian Cancellara without a doubt has used many motored road bikes. His bike changes were literally outrageous with no damage or any issues with his bikes. Another damaging clue is he always had someone waiting at the bike changes which is very telling since he did not want anyone to look at his bikes that he changed. Why would someone be further down next to people waiting to get his other bike and take it with them? Why not swap bikes with the team car, he was the only one doing this at that time. I believe he did not want his bike swaps examined so he had his accomplice take the swapped bikes, remove the seat post motors and then bring them back to the team cars at the end of the stages.
In the 2013 tour of Flanders, I was very impressed when Cancellara surged ahead of Sagan at the summit of the Paterburg. Within 30 seconds, Fabian was almost one kilometer ahead of Peter. Was Fabian's sudden spurt of energy due to a motor I wonder, or was he just a superman on that day? Hmmm.
Cancellera was a massive cheater and there is no way he rode away from Sagan like that without artificial help. He’s another guy, who no one should take any of his results seriously. And he definitely used motors in multiple races beyond the regular drug doping.
When he won the Tour de Suisse in 2009 I said to myself what an outstanding performace, riding the mountains so well as a TT specialist... it was just too good to be true.
Clearly a motor
:( i got super interested in cycling starting in 2012 and watching the 2013 Flanders Cancellara attack event unfold i was super confused. i feel like an idiot sometimes that i still watch.
Have a look at 2010 and see what he did to Boonen. Not natural
I saw that 2010 sprint you mentioned at Flanders. It's hard to believe. I guess Cancellara needed to produce at least 2000w for more than 3 minutes to achieve it. Few people can achieve it but not for that long.
2000 what's is more in league with track sprinters.
Cancellara 100% had a motor. Its so obvious to see.
@@2011hwalker he always had that power as a time trial extraordinaire. Boonen was a sprinter and had nothing left on the Muur
Nothing like Mr. Iron Injections raise questions about everyone else's performance.
At least Greg was talented
Screw you, Armstrong.
❤️❤️Lemond!
How does Gregg know the wattage display was accurate 100% of the time ? I love Gregg but I think sometimes he makes a lot of assumptions.
Have you seen the footage? Sky admitted that the power file was leaked/stolen. I think we can be pretty sure it’s legit.
This guys just needs to go away.
I could say the same for you. lol@@jasrod2012
@jasrod2012 Sorry but Greg is the man!
Any examples of people changing bikes 5 or 6 times in one stage ?
I can't recall seeing this.
I just can't see how a team would get away with something like this.
Watch the races motioning Cancellara and you will see bike changes for which there was no obvious reason. This is not proof of cheating but it was odd to watch the races at the time. Also the excuse of a top rider changing a bike due to a mechanical and then changing again a short time later, supposedly because they "preferred" the other bike. Top riders should have a spare bike that is set up properly for them, they should not need to change back because it does not fit properly or is set up differently.
@@SimonHarlowso the guy who won 4 world championship TT titles and 2 Olympic TT Gold medals somehow needed a motor to help him win in other races ?
That just doesn't sound credible.
Hi Les. I did not say he cheated. I have watched most of the races of that period quite few times due to the boredom of turbo-training sessions and there were quite a few unexplained bike changes, by Cancellara and many others. Just as a UFO is not an alien space craft, an unexplained bike change is just that, unexplained, but it might have a perfectly innocent explanation. He had two bike changes in the 2010 Flanders, one with about 50 km to go. From what I remember, the changes did not appear to be due to flat tyres. I would like to think Cancellara was clean but I am interested in Lemond's views as well. The Saxo bank team manager was Bjarne Riis, "Mr 60%" as I remember: a reference to his blood hematocrit level in the mid 1990s. Best wishes. @@leskennedy
@@leskennedy That second TT gold medal is one of the more obvious cases of motordoping you'll ever see
Your the best Greg! Period
5.08 no, not at all correct on that Boonen was full gas. Clearly the opposite and if you care to look at the footage properly, by that I mean impartially and the bigger picture shows he was bonking, his legs were gone completely. He got his fuel all wrong. Far too much focus was put on what Spartacus was doing away from what Boonen was experiencing. Look again...
I have a Tri-Ride T-Rocks attached to my wheelchair, I can go up serious hills at over 20mph and I'm 19 stone. These motors have power.
The only man in the history of pro cycling that never cheated in any way, shape or form. K.
I hope he was clean. It's hard to know these things with certainty. He gives a great interview.
He recovered from anemia post gun shot wound with injections and won the tour when they werent sure if he could ride....that was about the time epo became available
@@robbo3132 I've wondered about that. If he was clean, then maybe the heart surgery increased stroke volume? It would be through compliance of pericardium or myocardium, if that's even realistic. The simple explanation would be EPO.
@@robbo3132 actually there's a lot of factors affecting stroke volume. It would be interesting to hear from a cardiologist.
@@PerryScanlon anemia is low blood cells. He was under the impression that the doctor gave him vitamin B injections to raise red blood cell count, which didnt seem to make sense. It reminded me of a high school running team that started breaking 4 minute miles after intramuscular calcium injections. I spoke with a dutch guy that trained with a spanish pro tour team that had to sign something that said he would take what the team doctor perscribed him without asking what. This was probably to keep the moral burden off the riders and protect the teams.
I watched it five times. I thought GL was a bit of a hater at first , but I have to agree with him. His power goes down , gap extends , HR not really going high as much. With just 350 W Froome destroyed. That's not big watts for a pro. Very decent for me 😜
Could be faulty power meter as well.
@@cyclingseth4580 yea. Definitely, it could be. But both HR and Power are faulty , unlikely
@@s-ultracycling maybe froome has a very low HR compared to most pros unless you are saying his HR didn’t go up at all during the attack then it would be suss but if you are saying it was let’s say 150 160 therefore sus well his max isn’t very high so threshold could be 150 or maybe lower. Lionel sanders threshold I believe is in the 140s which is most people’s zone 2
@@cyclingseth4580 correct, didn't go up much during the attack
@@cyclingseth4580 valid points though. We don't know much about the file , his bio numbers , the accuracy of the meters
LeMond an American treasure, best cyclist the country has and ever will produce.
I think those photographers have motors on their bikes too.
Froome has had every accusation known to man thrown at him and then some more. The jealousy surrounding his time at the top is off the scale.
I can answer that question. Yes, he did use a motor and it was called CHRIS FROOME. Greg LeMond is a poor loser and talks about every other rider as being "cheaters". Poor Greg.
The hair and the accent! 👍
Thank you Greg LeMond! It's a shame cheaters ruined this professional sport.
They should x ray all the bike before and after the race.
They do that.
I believed greg, only a true bike riders really know the tricks and pure power of bike racing
Cur Dave has now rocked up at Man Utd. I'm intrigued to see what cheating methods he comes up with for their players. Player ins and outs will be very interesting in the coming months and years. Will they be willing to follow Cur Dave as Wiggins and Froome did? I expect many Asthma sufferers to be signed.
LeMond... smh.
The guy has been incessently chirping and running his mouth in the cycling community ever since his retirement back in the mid-90s. If there's anything more pathetic than someone who can't stop talking about the good ol' days 30+ years ago, it's that same person tearing down younger, more talented people coming up after them. Give.it.a.break. and move on, man. Seek life elsewhere.
Lot of bike changes at the base of a climb, for gearing i guess 😮
LeMond was a great cyclist but his ongoing whining and accusations about doping (drugs or mechanical ) only lessen his image and his past accomplishments.
Yep there was doping going on in cycling when he first got into it and before. Yep doping went on and got more refined as his career evolved. And yep there is still some doping going on now. Get over it Greg, time to let it go and enjoy and take pride in your accomplishments in your golden years.
I watched this weekend the infamous 2006 Floyd Landis come back on Joux Plane stage... and noticed he switched bikes at one point. For no reason. Didn't seem to have any problems with his bike. No flat tires. No chain problems. His bike seemed to be going well... It looked very planned. Was during climb of Col de la Colombiere. So, I wonder... besides the blood doping and the testosterones that he admitted to have used... was Landis also motor doping?
Very disappointing after everything if he had been doing that, which means he still hasn’t been totally honest
I don’t think so on that one. Don’t think the tech was there yet. I think he was switching to a lighter bike. Motors at the time might have given you a thirty second burst and then be dead. It wouldn’t have helped Landis that day.
It was a mountain stage all day
He switched to an even lighter bike.
Of course he was 😂
Oh go sleep somewhere 😊greg😊😊
Just curious, do they test all the race bikes for compliance at the races?
Sure! And then you just put another bike they never tested on the roof of your team car along with the others and give that to your guy before a big mountain. And then after he does that part, put that bike back on the roof and then give it to somebody on the side of the road that hides it until next stage.
In the future AI is going to proof mechanical doping from the past 😮
Has Froome responded to these facts? Let’s call them “allegations” for now…
And all coming from a guy that looks like he ate bikes rather than rode them. You tell me who looks like the better natural athlete Lemond or froome.
Completely different eras! Riders in general are a lot more slender and hence lighter these days compared to 30+ years ago. That's how they can go faster with same power output
@@jasrod2012 On the face of it, they both look perfectly suited to their eras. In the 80s, about the lowest gear you could ride was a 42 - 24. Imagine trying to grind that for 45 minutes up Alpe d' Huez or the Tourmalet. That's why riders of that era had such big, strong legs. Froome's era brought in much lower gears with more of an emphasis on cardio and high cadence.
Actually high cadence came to the fore long before Froome.
The honest truth is that Froome is twice the athlete Lemond ever was.
For Lemond to accuse Froome of cheating with a motor is laughable.
@@jasrod2012 Lol. Lemond won multiple world championships and made the podium numerous times in one day monuments as well as his 3 TDF. And all without abusing the TUE system, benefitting from any of Sky's other dodgy practices, sorry, "marginal gains".... and no army of lawyers to overturn failed doping tests.
Greg - you never answered the simple question about why you care so much - I thought I was watching dancing with the Ex-stars when you were answering Anthony's simple question - Please do us all a favor and just go away into retirement you have become so sad of your once self.
That would explain his time on zoncolan climb 😅
Do they not inspect all the bikes that are on the cars?
They didn't really inspect the bike at all in the Froome era.
no they didint!!....UCI has been hypocritical in all those cases...probably there are some corrupt officials in the ICU...
Having these tinfoil hat theories on your podcast massively discredits you.
What goes missing in all these discussions about motor doping is that one of the first accusers of cancellara was actually a dude SELLING SUCH MOTORS. He was clearly doing it to gain viral notoriety and there has never been a shred of evidence of any world tour cyclists using motors. No team mechanics, no engineers, no riders.
All we have are some "youtube analysts" giving their threadbare arguments.
Next you're going to be inviting flat earthers and contrail experts
Well i have been a fan but you are the one who blew the famous TT out of the water… i never accused or even suspected you cheated.
Still going on today 😊
I am sick and tired of Greg LeMond and his holier than thou attitude.
He is the WORST thing to ever happen to cycling as a sport.
Sounds like most Zwift races too...
Just because you were right about Lance doesn't give you carte blanche to shit on everyone. Greg the champion when everyone else was doping. 😂
He was doping too! Just ask Brunel and many others!!!
Kick rocks. He isn’t shitting on all, just those he has true knowledge of. Learn to pay attention and comprehend…
@@davidthoureau6693…Brunel is a liar and cover up artist…can’t be trusted…
Greg, loved you as a young g racer. Now, your constant whining and complaining is getting old. Just retire and enjoy life. You’re starting to get Chris Horner on us.
TDF…You ain’t cheating,You ain’t trying 🚴🚴🚴🚴
It's sad that Lemond wants to tear down anyone on the tour who is successful....not sure what his problem is..
why would six bike changes suggest use of a motor?
the idea is that the battery in the bike would empty quite quickly.
You cant really unhear that -
Of course they have motors Froome and pogacar
Want to see a motor ? One word; Hesjedal.
Right. Didn’t he crash and the back wheel kept spinning?
Did LeMond use a Motor?
Love Lemond’s story and believe he possibly was natural. Lance Armstrong was awesome as well, cheated the cheaters, they were all juicing during his era.
The riders being accused of using motors should sue all these idiots throwing out accusations without any evidence!!
Why is it that the stars of today, who seem to produce just as incredible performances, get no accusations? All the French media hated Sky just because they were a British team with British riders and they hated the success. How come UAE don't get the same stick for doing exactly what Sky used to do??
Does anyone else wish Lemond would stop whining about riders who put out amazing performances. He is a bloated mess and looks like he couldn’t even ride a century. I think he’s lost all perspective. His opinion used to mean a lot. Not anymore.
Funny how doping wasn't a thing until after LeMond's era. If Lance doped, Greg doped as bad or harder. And I'm American.
100% true
He was doping, he wasn't doping....he used a motor, he didn't use a motor...I'm a 78 year old gamer and get outplayed consistently.....they are obviously all weasels and hackers! ☺
Look people motors and batteries have been going on for years. My wife uses her motor with or without batteries.
I used a motor on my bike to place first against my wife during a ride and picnic competition. That kept her in her place for a week or two.
As a former amateur cyclist, I'm glad Greg is pointing out much of the things that negatively impact the sport. Unrealistic performances, not achievable by the normal human being, along with the push towards much more expensive bikes, which are unattainable to many, will push people away from the sport. To grow cycling as a sport, we need realistic races on attainable bikes. Something the average Joe (or Jane) can see himself doing.
Greg is the greatest but there will always be douters but I was at his training camp in 1996 in Sacramento with 7-11 team and he was the greatest cyclist I have ever seen 😊
No Eddy Merckx
LeMond was better than Merckx. No doping cheating like Eddy. 💉
Maybe he didn't see Mercx:-)@@andrewpitts2894
Eddie got done for drugs, you didn’t know?
If he’s saying this he’s saying that British cycling was involved
Wow, ya think? Brailsford, Sutton, Freeman, Wiggo - duh!
Jiffybag
No shit. The TUE leaks alone with Wiggins show that Brailsford/Sky was doing highly unethical stuff at best, and they were overlapping massively with British Cycling at that point (which was a whole other dodgy situation in itself)
@@alioflymaybe but a TUE is majorly different then putting a moter in someone’s frame
@@cyclingseth4580 not the way they were using TUEs with Wiggins, I would argue. Also that was happening when they were publicly stating they had a ‘no needles’ policy I believe, even for legal treatments (not that the TUE was that in reality anyway). With that level of dishonesty I wouldn’t put anything past Brailsford in particular
Is this real?
Vingegard did the ventoux 50s quicker than Froome
There are more ebikes not only Froomes in the field😅
Did Lemond use PED , EPO ? ooooh yeah !
This guy doped himself up to the gills
Unless someone blows the whistle it's all hearsay
Talk is cheap ,produce hard evidence!!
No. Next question.
To win on jubilee year mmm
Lemond is the MAN!!!
The doping man
Lemond, none of three men to win the Tour de France clean. Favourite rider ever.
I think u misspelled a word 😅
@@telmolicious well spotted. It should be one. I never noticed.
@@Servicevelo I guess you've been tapping your foot, eyebrows raised in expectation but no one has bitten yet so I'll play along 😉. >cough< Who were the.......er.... what was the question again......🤔? Oh yes! Who were the other two riders who won the Tour de France clean 😁?
@@jayaybe1 for me, Cadel Evans and Carlos Sastre. It’s only my opinion but it’s based on their career trajectories and relative performances. You may well think something else, but thanks for joining the debate.
He's probably right they were cheating. I think there was lots of drugs in his era too. I knew someone who rode in his era in Europe and he was so messed up by the drugs he had to quit riding
Here il say it. Greg just wants to be relavant. Froome isnt using a motor. Where was greg when froome was winning? Why wait 10 years when theres no way to disprove what hes saying. To act like the team sky bikes weren't the most inspected bikes on earth is just preposterous
not sure but Cancellara did when he blew by Boonen like he was stand-in still...
because Boonen was standing still. Simples.
Mr. LeMond did you use dope !!??
Cheating has been apart of cycling from the beginning of the sport.
Van der Poel and Van Aert were observed using moto powered CX bikes, Cancellara clearly used a motor at Flanders.That female CX racer, Roglic very dodgy ITT with a glowing Bottom bracket. Cyclists are well known to cheat so its very likely its a widespread problem
I mean come on guyz... If this is really a concern, then why there is not a rule to do something similar what they do in motor sports, like F1? Once they off the bike, take it to a depo, and take it apart. In that way it would be pretty easy to find the motor. And if they use 5 bikes, take all 5. But I don't think they use motor...
As Greg pointed out these riders were changing their bikes 5-6 times in a single race/stage, so it's not as simple as just testing someone's bike at the end of the race. Who can keep track of the swapped out bikes?
They've been scanning the bikes post race for years now.
they x ray every bike that as been aproved to run the stages, this is witch hunting, to prove is era was better, like they do in nba comparing a really good player in MJ, but with way worst competiton compared to Lebron
But not in that era. They didn't inspect shit.
@@jayaybe1
@@clean1566 Yes I know that. I'm responding to someone who is speaking in the present tense 👍.
Greg was a great cyclist but has become a bitter man. Trying to explain that he put on 30 lbs of muscle when he retired, that he looked fat but it was really muscle? Weird. No o e cares that he got fat, it happens
I know, and it seems like all he does is complain about everything lol. Look, I admit, Greg was an amazing Cyclist back in the day, and he worked hard for his wins and success in life, but the dude is so big headed and he tries disguising it by acting subtle about it. He basically insults people in a mildly slightly less offensive way, but yet he is still insulting the people lol. This is the only thing that I really don't like about my country (America) we are so hell bent on bringing other people down, because we don't like being overshadowed or outdone by someone else. The analogy I made, is referring to Greg not wanting to be outdone by another American, Lance Armstrong. You don't ever hear or see Miguel Indurain attacking other Cyclists and calling them cheaters lol, because he respects all the Cyclists. Here in America, it's all about ego and getting the last laugh or word in.
@@justinexplainseverything1554No Indurain doesn’t call others out because he himself cheated and doesn’t want the extra attention on it… Besides, LeMond doesn’t accuse the current riders of doping, he actually defends them against the allegations quite a lot.
@@frederikbrandt424 Dude, I understand what you are saying, but I wasn't born yesterday. Greg LeMond is American, and guess what?? Lance Armstrong also just happens to be American, do you seriously think he would have attacked Lance if Lance was from France or Spain?? Highly unlikely lol. Greg wants to be remembered in history as the only American to win the Tour de France, and Lance ruined that story from 1999 to 2005. If Lance was a French Cyclist, dominating the Tour, Greg would not care nor would he bother him lol. It's all about American pride and ego.
@@justinexplainseverything1554 Armstrong isn’t the only one he’s been after from the past and they’re not just Americans.. The thing with Armstrong is that LeMond obviously got asked a lot about Armstrong while he was dominating since they were both Americans. And he had a lot of sources who knew about the doping, which would obviously annoy a clean rider.
You can hate LeMond as much as you want, but on this topic he’s been more right than wrong, no matter your feelings towards him.
@@frederikbrandt424 All I'm saying is, you can't deny that Lance was attacked for political reasons and the reasons he was attacked, was not because his doping lol. Lance was attacked and harshly punished because of his actions towards other people, it had nothing to do with cheating or having an unfair advantage over the peloton. Lance was probably the BIGGEST and EASIEST target in sports history to attack and punish. People made lots and lots of money off of the Lance Armstrong scandal, they wrote books, made movies, and several documentaries about his life lol. All I was trying to say is, Lance was not punished to clean the sport up, he was punished to make an example out of the biggest name in the sport, and to make big headlines.
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Except for shimano cranks, they are crap. Had 2 break!
What's a Froome?
An Albino Kenyan from outer space.
Bonen just used too much drugs during the week, don't blame Cancellara for being more dedicated to his sport and put unproven accusation on him. Yeah, the drugs abuse of Bonen is proven! Come with proof or we might as well make some accusations about LeMond, it's not that hard to spread rumors.
Unfortunately in Greg lemonds era they used everything except motors
Wait, so we're impugning Sean Kelly's integrity because of his SILENCE? I despise the yellow-bracelet wehrmacht as much as the next reasonable cyclist, but maybe my boyhood hero Mr. LeMond is saying too much? I choose to believe (and I could be wrong) that Mr. Kelly was as clean as Mr. LeMond.
We had amphetamines in those days, but we had no EPO and certainly no electric motors back then.