PTFJ - proximal tibio fibular joint dislocation

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  • How to perform a reduction of a proximal trio fibular joint dislocation

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  • @tsimpthenightcrawler2704
    @tsimpthenightcrawler2704 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I once had dislocated my fibula and had to figure this out on the fly, except as opposed to having someone guide it back in, I externally rotated my leg, inverted my foot, rested my lateral ankle on a bolster, and extended my leg, slowly untill it slid back into place. 5+ years later, I find this video, haha!

    • @neilcunningham7905
      @neilcunningham7905  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Hi nightcrawler, glad you were able to get your fibula back in, it's a pretty rare injury. Hopefully the published technique means that the next person doesn't have to be quite so creative!

    • @neilcunningham7905
      @neilcunningham7905  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I've now written up an auto-reduction technique, hopefully useful if this ever happens again. Cheers, Neil
      dislocation.com.au/fibula

  • @ashleymarie6882
    @ashleymarie6882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This video just helped me and my partner so much!!! I just mimicked what they did in the video and his joint went back in! We are so so grateful!!!!

    • @KenLives333
      @KenLives333 ปีที่แล้ว

      you manage to do it on your own? they are two people doing the manipulation in the video..

    • @neilcunningham7905
      @neilcunningham7905  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Great to hear Ashley, and well done, hope his knee is doing OK.

    • @neilcunningham7905
      @neilcunningham7905  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I've now written up an auto-reduction technique, hopefully useful if this ever happens again. Cheers, Neil
      dislocation.com.au/fibula

  • @panfull
    @panfull ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just did this leaning over a car seat. Thank heavens for youtube.
    Tips for doing it solo. Wedge your foot somewhere. Pull back and up. Mine went straight in. Then see a doctor to check for muscle or bone damage

    • @maxbarrow3139
      @maxbarrow3139 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you explain how you did that

    • @kaileesmith4334
      @kaileesmith4334 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maxbarrow3139I commented on how I get mine back in.

  • @kbaakash
    @kbaakash 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I adjusted mine myself following this video, have been having sore knee after sitting in a deep squat for about a year, this one fixed it. You're a legend mate 🙌

    • @neilcunningham7905
      @neilcunningham7905  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's great news kbaakash, hope the knee now fully recovered!

    • @kbaakash
      @kbaakash 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @neilcunningham7905 Yes, mate! I started doing some atg stuff, and I can now do some sissy and pistol squats, too.

    • @neilcunningham7905
      @neilcunningham7905  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kbaakash I've now written up an auto-reduction technique, hopefully useful if this ever happens again. Cheers, Neil
      dislocation.com.au/fibula

    • @kbaakash
      @kbaakash 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @neilcunningham7905 that's so kind of you, mate. I will check it out and share it with my folks.

  • @youssefbahi4395
    @youssefbahi4395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    عمل رائع دكتور.موفق

  • @kaileesmith4334
    @kaileesmith4334 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I’ve been dealing with this for two years.. numerous mri’s, X-rays, etc. multiple physical therapists.. no answers. I can no longer squat weigh bearing on this knee or it pops out. I can’t sit with my feet under me or it pops out, etc.. I’ve been an athlete my entire life and I’m at a loss. They swore it was my meniscus.. nope. Started working with a personal trainer.. thought it was an old lcl tear.. honestly it’s ruined my life. Hopefully I can get answers soon from this new Dr.. he had a surgery to keep this from reoccurring.
    When mine pops out my leg is locked in a 90 degree. I have someone else hold my heel and slowly straighten the leg back out. It does clunk right back in. Pain stops after it’s back in place. If you’re alone, it’s going to suck and be super painful.. but physically reach down and hold your calf to push your leg back straight.
    This might not be the correct way but I’ve been hiking and had to do this multiple times. Always follow up. For me I never get answers when I do follow up.. just take it easy bc it will feel unstable for a few days.

    • @snagboi
      @snagboi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Best advice.

    • @wendymarshall2132
      @wendymarshall2132 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here! Also an athlete going for my second MRI. I have tried braces but ultimately would like surgery. I remember it happening to me as a child and now it occurs during BJJ/wrestling practice and comes out if I sit weird or if someone shoots a single leg on me

    • @snagboi
      @snagboi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wendymarshall2132 there's no known surgery to fix this tbh

    • @AEBJJ159
      @AEBJJ159 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@wendymarshall2132same with wrestling and BJJ. Luckily this only happens every few months for me (touch wood it doesn't get more frequent). I'm going to start with a focused S&C program to strengthen the connecting tendons, ligaments and muscle groups.

    • @gaunter5576
      @gaunter5576 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wendymarshall2132 hey,i am wrestler to and in the ground games its going to locking or when i going to make straight somesaults in the warmup its just happenening.it was 6 month ago happened and i tought it was meniscus tear until this day,i can deep squat with weights its not locking but i am sure that rn its discolated.normally 6 month ago it was like very heavy cramp in my leg but for now its effecting very little under my knee to my ankle,but it doesn't healed fully,
      can you get some progress from that injury or can you recovered fully heal if you can explain me it would be so good.because it was doomed me and theese times is darkest times for my life

  • @unkleredd
    @unkleredd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    thanks for helping joe lauzon

    • @jackfarts6155
      @jackfarts6155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Came here for a comment like this lol

    • @neilcunningham7905
      @neilcunningham7905  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I had to look this up, certainly sounds like that injury may have been his issue. Its a rare injury and easily missed on imaging if you're not looking for it.

  • @SoulxSpectre
    @SoulxSpectre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Mine does this whenever I sit cross legged or kneel down, pops right out and boy is it terrifying to have knees.

    • @jakedemers5909
      @jakedemers5909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have to same issue, have you found at treatment or exercises that reduce this?

    • @SoulxSpectre
      @SoulxSpectre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jakedemers5909 hey,
      Unfortunately not, I just have to not sit in certain ways, and it has honestly given me quite a knee phobia for things touching my knees (jeans etc)
      i do find some relief just from basic yoga and strength training from tutorials on TH-cam, anything that builds strength in your joints. Good luck :)

    • @king_marenyc2163
      @king_marenyc2163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SoulxSpectre literally me too but it’s finally stuck like right now smh and I think this is the problem the fibula and I never got it checked out well guess nows the time

    • @SoulxSpectre
      @SoulxSpectre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@king_marenyc2163 oh no, stuck out of place? Sorry man that must suck, probably better not to force it back yourself if it's not going back easily, and go see a doctor/physio if you can? Hoping for a good outcome for you! Pls do update if the doctor gives you any good advice 🙏 🙌

    • @king_marenyc2163
      @king_marenyc2163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SoulxSpectre literally hurts like no other I’m pretty sure I can’t walk not like this stressing thinking How I’m even getting down the stairs

  • @aadeshyeole8178
    @aadeshyeole8178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My leg fabula is inserted insight and aurtho doctor given me a tight bandage on it and they tell me don't do any movement of leg but is this k to repair it if possible please answer me

  • @BradOdaily
    @BradOdaily 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why is this happening and is there any way to prevent dislocation?

  • @josephslack7162
    @josephslack7162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m having this issue as well. Any advice?

  • @flowolf4k368
    @flowolf4k368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the same problem. Is there anything I can do?

  • @viccktor7
    @viccktor7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello all - same problem with me. Is there any update on this - could you give any advise how to treat? Thanks.

  • @craigh8602
    @craigh8602 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This a very uncommon knee problem. Less that 2% of all knee injuries. The tendon underneath has usually been over- stretched or torn.

  • @variolaa1089
    @variolaa1089 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do I have to press it inside with very much pressure? It seems to me, that I press it inside, and then after about 10 steps, it falls out again. But hey, the 10 steps didnt hurt anymore.

  • @antoniorice2983
    @antoniorice2983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My chiropractor said that this was happening because my IT band and my hamstring were too tight

    • @au2838
      @au2838 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lying on a foam roller on the IT band will tell you if it is dysfunctional - pain, tightness, etc.

  • @amrice62
    @amrice62 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why the sound stopped? That painful????

  • @kenziekylecfacundo829
    @kenziekylecfacundo829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    this always happen to me when i cross my legs and move and it somehow just pops back in but its very painful its sad that i have messed up knees at 15

    • @BeakaD
      @BeakaD ปีที่แล้ว

      Omg I’m 15 too and this has been happening to me

    • @callusedhandz510
      @callusedhandz510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here been happening to me since about 15, so 10yrs now. Cannot criss cross apple sauce, no sitting on feet as on might do in a martial arts dojo, which is where my problem started. Doing things such as figure 4 leg chokes also caused dislocation. Woken up to dislocation I couldn’t comprehend. Good luck fellas

    • @Thearuxes
      @Thearuxes ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please get tested for ehlers danlos syndrome or other connective tissue disorders if this is happening to you at 15

    • @Alex-fw6ur
      @Alex-fw6ur ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same - I have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, secondary/comorbid to Chiari 1 Malformation (brain disorder).
      If you’re flexible or have joint issues, especially dislocations, you should be looked at for a connective tissue disorder

    • @snagboi
      @snagboi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Worst is when it doesn't pop right back in... You gotta straighten your legs and force it back into the socket. Worst pain ever.

  • @holycow8743
    @holycow8743 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome, i iwsh i heard the sound for some reason!!

  • @ethanmacdonald2996
    @ethanmacdonald2996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How long does this usually take to heal ( I have just had the same thing happen to me)

  • @abhisheksinghguleria3984
    @abhisheksinghguleria3984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have same problem

  • @rawjoice3897
    @rawjoice3897 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for this! I believe this is showing a way to resolve the dislocation!? I have been misdiagnosed some years after a lateral tibial plateau fracture and a torn medial meniscus - all of which I healed without surgeries. However for such a long time, I have been dislocating the proximal tibiofibular joint and I have been snapping it back into place. I stopped going to doctors because even after MRIs, they all just looked on the computer and said I had arthritis despite me pleading with them about a mechanical problem that felt like a dislocation!! Can anyone tell me the critical point of connection that would make it dislocate? Sometimes I think it happens if I spread my legs apart while sitting, but if I am conscious of that, it does not happen. Other times it happens while I am lying down sleeping. Whether I am sitting or lying down or walkng and turning, there must be a exact junction movement whether I am twisting or elevating or pivoting that I should be certain of and that I can try to avoid.===== which I am still unclear about!!!! If anyone can weigh in, I would be most obliged!!! Thank you again.

    • @neilcunningham7905
      @neilcunningham7905  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There is definitely a position that favours dislocation of the PTFJ if you have a tendency for this. It is hip and knee flexed, ankle inverted and weight applied to knee. Details here
      dislocation.com.au/fibula

    • @rawjoice3897
      @rawjoice3897 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@neilcunningham7905 Thank you Neil! I am going to study the details of your link... I did come across what you sent me, and I did save it, but I really would have appreciated a doctor going over those details and the moves with me. It is absurd that after ME telling two doctors what I had 3 years ago, nobody, responded to me. They just look on a computer, and tell me I have arthritis, despite me saying, "what about the mechanical dislocation". I just recently went back to one of them again for a renewed response. He only smiled at me. Unbelievable!!! I am telling you this to emphasize how much it means that you took the time to pass this link on to me.

  • @Activeuser07
    @Activeuser07 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the same thing I’m hoping it can be adjusted like this without no surgery 🙏

    • @kaileesmith4334
      @kaileesmith4334 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I just posted my story on mine. No answers yet.

    • @rawjoice3897
      @rawjoice3897 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      me too!

  • @briancampbell3499
    @briancampbell3499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonder why it’s necessary to put the ankle in inversion

    • @neilcunningham7905
      @neilcunningham7905  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This pulls the whole fibula down towards the foot which loosens it at the top end where it is stuck behind the flared tibia