It is super important to note that your car is the standard range model. The range is 100 miles less than a long range, but more importantly the peak charge rate is 175kwh vs 250kwh in a long range. Longer road-trips like this are when having a long range model is worth it. Stops are about 3 hours apart which is a perfect amount of time imo. With the standard range you’re definitely going to be stopping before you feel like you need to.
Yes exactly. Her 2019 model 3 only has ~220 miles of range, whereas a 2022 model 3 long range has 334 miles and charges faster. The vehicle with the longest range is the model S LR at 405 miles.
Umm seriously! I drove 8 hours from Las Vegas to Reno and only had to stop 3 times with my 22 MYP and some stops that had 250kwh chargers I was in and out in 10-15 minutes. My car was often ready before I was!
Three weeks ago we did a 3257 mile trip in a 2022 Model 3 LR. The nominal range is 358 miles. The trip was Fishers, Indiana, Minneapolis, MN, Thunder Bay, Ontario, Sault Ste Marie, Sudbury, ON, Quebec City, Detroit, MI, Fishers, IN. We made a total of 20 charges, 19 at Superchargers and a final one at home. The average stretch between chargers was 163 miles. We don't do what Tesla recommends but go until it's down to 20% or we want a toilet and food break. The price of a kWh in the US where they quote it by the kWh was $.41 a kWh. None of these would be considered 'busy chargers'. A year or two ago it was $.29. Most of Canada seemed to be by cost per minute at different charging rates. The amount we paid total was $357 based on what Tesla billed us plus what I calculated for final charging at home (14 cents/kWh). Superchargers were at all the right locations in the boonies of Canada. However, most of the superchargers were at Canadian Tire locations... no food and only a restroom at the waiting room for tire service. I'd give each one of them a 2/10. This was a classic road trip, not a tour of Canada except for Old Quebec City. BTW, we are 80 and 81. My wife did almost all the driving and I was the 'flight engineer'.
A Standard Range Plus vs. a Long Range does make a difference in the number of charging stops, for sure. I recently did a 1,211 mile (round trip) in my Long Range Model 3, and we had a total of 7 stops.
If was watching this video and thinking to myself, that it would have taken six or seven stops in a LRM3. I’m am not quite up to it yet, but maybe one day… …
I definitely wouldn't mind stopping 5 times on an 8 hour trip, because I don't like sitting or driving for that long, and 10 to 20 minute breaks are nice to have.
@@JChurchua Prolonged sitting is a common way for people to get deep vein thrombosis (blood clots in their legs) which can travel to your lung artery and cause sudden death. Always good to get up and stretch your legs every couple hours
@@stevehan8157 Maybe as a lifestyle, but doing that "occasionally on vacation" is probably not harmful or dangerous. I stay healthy and active otherwise, so i trust my body can handle 8 hours(and more) of sitting...
@@stevehan8157 So, If I live an active lifestyle I am still susceptible to these blood clots on an occasional 8+ hour resting/sitting time? I'd be curious to see those facts. Office folks must be in seriously bad health if they dont take regular breaks... I am not in the medical field at all, so i do NOT know, but i am sceptical.
I just finished a 1500 miles trip from Dallas to Los Angeles. The total cost is $185. 461kwh electricity. Average cost per kWh is .4. It’s actually much more than I planned. When I first had my model 3 four years ago. The supercharger is super cheap. Some sites are even free. But now it’s not saving any cost comparing to gas efficient cars. The only benefit is the auto pilot.
@@Cocoshack 50 miles/gal is not on a long trip, but with a lot of city driving where the electric motor can help, it doesn't do that at constant speed on a highway
Kudos for taking a 1,200 mile trip in a standard range Model 3. Stops will definitely be more frequent. A new 2022 long range Model 3 will get up to 350 miles per charge which would probably make long trips more enjoyable as you would not need to stop as much.
My 2022 M3LR (w/18" aero covers) tops out around 270 miles of range when driving sustained freeway speeds (70-80mph) in flat as a board Ohio, that is with a full charge to 100%. I first tried it with 90% going up to Cleveland and was hilariously short. Tried 95% and still hit the supercharger before heading home. Did 100% thinking I'd have a fighters chance to get back to my house (280 miles round trip) and I limped the tesla into a supercharger about 15 miles from my house and it said 11 miles of range left. I'm not hating on it though. I love it and supercharger times are minimal with the LR. Just pointing out that the 358 mile range is for conservative driving in the city. It is not at all accurate for a road trip.
I just did a 1300+ mile trip in two days (Seattle to Denver). On the first day, I used ABRP which had me make more stops for really short times. The second day, I just used in-car nav. I took two hour-long lunch breaks (so i could sit down in a restaurant) and charged it to 100% while doing that. I also stayed in a hotel on the first night and free charged all the way up ;) The whole trip cost me around 100 bucks for that one-way. I was so much less fatigued than all the other road trips I've taken in my life and I used EAP most of the way so it was just a breeze. Went through three audio-books and cranked my entire 80s library ....was a great trip! BTW--the cost of supercharging went up everywhere..not just in CA--it's ALWAYS 48 cents per KW in Oregon and Washington now.
Supercharging got way more expensive recently. Drive from St. Louis Missouri to Dallas TX, cost was (620 miles distance) $61. Average price kWh paid around 38 cents. Had 4 supercharging stops and took 13 hours total in a M3 long range 2021. Great video by the way!!!
we did from St Augustine FL->Chicago->Niagra Falls->Utica, NY->Boston, MA-> Washington DC->Nashville, TN and back to St Augustine, FL on a Model 3. However, the difference is ours is a long range. It was not continuous (obviously), but it did it and autopilot was a life saver.
EVs are perfect as a daily driver around town. If you go on a long trip, it depends on how quickly you need to get there. If we're not limited by time, we take our 2018 Tesla. If we need to get there quickly we take our ICE. I can get from LA to SF in less than 6 hours in an ICE car (nearly 500 gas range), 7-8 hours with the Tesla when we charge halfway and then charge again when we roll into town
The reason why it was getting you to stop more often in parts of the trip may be due to driving through either mountain ranges or up and down hills or major elevation changes. These steep or long climbs might require more power to be consumed than regularly calculated. The road planner takes those details into account. Had you not stopped and gambled it, after a few steep climbs, could have been left stranded without power. Yeah, maybe you could go the full length of distance, but those climbs and elevation changes would have consumed way more battery than thought.
The major issue with EV energy consumption with EV's,heavy car combined with mountain roads and the need to mash the 'Go pedel'= range drops like a stone. Drive like a SR Citezen,flat roads,no A/C=Awesome range! Lol
So have you figured out yet why it has you stop more often than you have range for? The car is calculating for the quickest trip. Charging slows down as the battery fills up, so the quickest trip uses only the bottom 2/3 of the battery, even if it means an extra stop, because the stops are shorter. Enjoyed your video, nicely done. It was fun seeing those same places I stopped at on 2 trips between Seattle and So Cal. I "camped" in the car overnight in the Shasta area both ways. You should have said the superchargers with shade like Kettleman have solar panels on all that roof. Sun-powered cars!
Driving from Fort Lauderdale to Jacksonville and stopping 3 times for 30 minutes each added 1.5 hours to our already long trip. I told my boyfriend, we take the Mazda 3 each time lmao! With a full tank in the Mazda, I never have to stop, other then a few minutes for lunch.
Just took my model y to Yellowstone from San Diego and it was great! The stops were at times when we already wanted to stretch and take our dog out for potty breaks and a little walk. Very impressed!
Good point that charging gives you more time to stretch and walk around a bit. I think it’s very important to move around and get circulation in your legs and to focus away from the road.
Shelby - your point about autopilot being a godsend is so true - dramatically reduces the fatigue of long road trips. Even though your standard range Model 3 required more Supercharger stops than a long range model, the Supercharger stops for my road trips to LA and Phoenix have been no big deal. Another cool point - while charging you can keep the AC (or heat) running so you can just chill out in the car or, like you did, explore the area. My Tesla 3 long range is the best road trip car I've ever owned vs. the many ICE cars I've owned and taken on multi-day trips. And if you are worried about range reduction over time I'm approaching year 3 and the range of the car fully charged is still over 300 miles. Leaving fully charge from the SF Bay Area I can get to LA with one Supercharger stop (I usually stop twice - in Kettleman and in Santa Clarita - to break up the trip and to arrive with more charge). Taking advantage of destination charging helps a lot too. Great video!
Auto pilot & all this techno crap on vehicles are making people such bad drivers. They do not know how to really stay alert & have tunnel vision on the road. People do not know how to enter on a highway anymore, they do not know how to back up or parallel park..... When backing up not many know how to actually use their mirrors. I do not need a stupid backup camera because I know how to use my mirrors. People do not know how to read a map. They rely on a navigation system.
@YYpang Better than your generation of lazy self-entitled whining clueless. sensitive cry babies. People today do not even know how to enter a highway properly. Constantly on their phones while driving. Have to have auto lights because they are too lazy to turn the light switch on themselves....... I can just imagine them try driving a car when I was a young man. No power steering, no power windows, no cruise control. No poser brakes & a stick shift on top of that. P.S. by the way my 2011 Ram 3500 4 x 4 dually I bought in September of 2012 with 10,095 miles on it now has over 1 Million miles on it. Yes I drive that much.
I've done three road trips in my Tesla I have three dogs so stopping is honestly great, they use the bathroom, eat, stretch and my husband and I get off use the restroom get something to eat. We've always had to make longer stops with out gas vehicle because we're always with our dogs. Overall its a great experience. LOVE MY TESLA.
14:07 - The “miles” shown next to the battery are usually much more than you can actually drive in the real world - especially at freeway speeds. That’s why you noticed it wasn’t going as far between charges than you were expecting. The “energy” screen will show “projected” range, which is a far more accurate “miles till empty” calculation. It’s also what your navigation uses to calculate supercharger stops. I find the “miles” display so frustratingly inaccurate that I switched to % and use the energy screen if I ever need to know how many “miles” I have left.
I loved the Kettleman charging station. It’s been my favorite one so far. I also stopped at one in Hollister, Ca that had lots to explore and a cute store. I totally agree road-trips on the Tesla are actually really fun even though they’re a bit longer. You get to stop at interesting places. Tesla did a really good job scouting these places. It helps being business to a lot of them too from people that might have otherwise drove past so it’s a win win.
My husband and I drove from Gatineau, Quebec (near Ottawa, Ontario) to Halifax Nova Scotia last October. It was so easy to travel that distance!! (About 1600 km) The stops make sense since it's nice to go to the bathroom and stretch your legs, as you say Shelby. The one thing that we didn't like was the fact that our car is post May 2021 which means there is no radar and camera only autopilot/full self driving. We have a Model 3 SR plus 2021. Phantom braking in camera only cars is a really big problem. We experienced some scary braking episodes on an empty New Brunswick high in FSD mode. The car suddenly braked, sharply, with nothing to trigger it. Quite scary. So, we're a little nervous to use it at all, sadly. Love the car otherwise and so so happy that we're an all electric car family now with the Tesla and our 2019 Nissan Leaf. We are moving to Nova Scotia in the late fall. Going to have the Leaf shipped by rail because it would be too long and tiresome to stop to charge it very often for that distance. The Tesla can handle it very easily, on the other hand. The difference between the two cars is that the Nissan only cools the battery through air movement. The Tesla has liquid cooling of the battery pack which is significantly better. As the car drives the battery pack heats up significantly and with proper coolant it is still able to charge quickly at each stop. The Nissan would take a lot longer each successive stop due to the battery being so heated from driving it.
Hi, don't use fsd on your longer trips. Fsd is still in experimental stage, but it's getting better with time. I think autopilot is good for long journeys
Loved the video. I have a feeling this charging break after every 2 hours (from what I could see that was the average), is a little on purpose. The rule of thumb is to have a 15 minute break after every 2 hours of driving. I can see Musk being sneaky enough to program this rhythm on purpose, to encourage people to take regular breaks from driving. You're very inspiring, Shelby, keep at it!
Great video! As someone that drives from SF to LA multiple times a year, I agree that it’s best to charge just enough so you can get to the next charging station safely. For example, I drive a Long Range RWD Model 3 (~300 Mi @ 100%). I typically would stop 3x from SF to LA, but for a very short amount of time. 5 mins in Firebaugh, 10 mins in Kettleman City, 5 mins at Tejon Ranch (so I don’t get to LA with 0%). That’s only a total of 25 mins of charging for a ~380 mi road trip. ⚡️
A few week back we did a 3,000 miles around road trip with my brother from SoCal to Austin, TX. We trues ABRP but dor my Tesla Model 3 using the Tesla SC inbuilt M3 app was fine. Best thing was all my SC charging was all free. We did Total about 14 to 15 Superchargers.
The autopilot is pretty cool for road trips or any freeway trip really. Plus, it continuously checks your heart strength by locking the brakes up without cause or notice from time to time, providing you with a free cardiac stress test. People driving behind you get this free test as well. The knowledge that this can and will happen at anytime causes me to maintain a constant death grip on the steering wheel also, which is another fine free safety feature.
Shelby: Driving while talking to the camera and shooting a video Monica: reclines and takes a nap and has no idea where she even is 😂 No hate to Monica, I’d be napping too, but it’s just such classic Church sisters
1,200 miles @ 40MPG diesel.(realistic for a roadtrip is closer to 50MPG) that is 30 Gallons @ $5.25 = $157"ish" Can arrive to the destination with minimal stops and wasted time. Interestingly enough, you can calculate how much your time is worth and if it is wasted waiting for a charge. Not to talk about those stops in places you never would normally stop can lead to unexpected spent money on souvenirs or food you wouldnt normally buy(if you werent "forced" to stop).. Just different ways to look at it.
Pro tip - the Kettleman City Supercharger has much faster chargers lined up at the far end. You were at the slower ones. Long range teslas save a lot of time- only 1 stop between LA and Napa, and destination chargers are the best.
Older standard range with range loss, still not bad overall. I have 6 month old model Y LR. I have noticed that I can push the miles if I really want to by being careful to do near the speed limit. Currently, I estimate my range to be in the 230 to 250 range with AC at 72 and tunes blasting the entire time doing 75-ish. I just completed a 370 mile road trip in Florida and only stopped once to charge. That's leaving with 100% charged battery. For some reason, it wanted me to charge way short of my expected location - so I canceled the trip and decided to navigate directly to the supercharger instead. That worked pretty well. Even though I was driving near 80 mph, the car initially said I wouldn't make it. By the time I arrived, I still had over 20% range left. This first leg was 183 miles. This was a combined meal/snack/bio-break so we charged nearly to 95% - which took about 50 minutes. We made it another 185 miles to our final stop - we arrived with 7% charge left. Keep in mind that Florida is a lot flatter, so I'm sure that helped. But, I did have 5 people + a dog in the back + a pretty full hitch mounted cargo carrier with luggage.
There are two answers. To how much battery capacity loss to expect over time: Answer 1 You should loose between 5-10% after the first 50-100k miles. Then the losses slow down and you should lose about 20% after about 300K miles. So the car should retain about 80% charge capacity after about 300k miles. The new 4680 battery rolling out now from Texas factory should lose charge Much slower resulting in 80% charge after 1 million miles. A "million mile battery". Answer 2 She Might find that if she reconditions her battery, runs it to 2% or less then charges it back to 100%, she might get capacity back. A premature "loss" of capacity can occur over time and need a reset to get it back. She indicated loss from 242> 220 after less than a couple of years (
The stops are not as bad if you think about it. We miss some of the opportunities to explore when on a road trip and the long period requires some stretching too
Our 01 DGC EX has over 318K miles and gets over 400 miles per tank on the highway using AC going 75 to 80 mph. I drive about five times a year, from Chicago to Mount Pleasant, MI, to pick up our daughter from college. (About 550 miles total all in the same day) It normally cost $50 to fill up once. Don't forget to add in the cost, of every dollar you spend, at every stop you make. When I travel, I fill up our travel cooler with ice and perishable foods. (Sandwich's, dinner, fruit, water, juice and veggies) I have a DC 12V portable oven, I use to heat up food. I have a snack bag with chips, fruit snacks, granola bars, trail mix, etc. I eat and drink while I drive. I only need to stop to fill up and use the bathroom. (That's about every four hrs.) Also, I carry two 5 gal. Jerry cans of gasoline, for an emergency.
It would be cool if Tesla creates a sort of portable power wall. Where if you start running low you can hook up the power wall in your trunk to boost your battery. And when that's depleted, you can stop at a supercharger where you can recharge both your car and power wall for another time.
We did Cork to Cornwall in our RWD model 3 in August two stops and on the first the car was finished refueling ourselves each time we charged to 100% and we had surplus miles at the end of the journey to use over the first few days of the holiday.
I love how you share how road tripping in a Tesla is! I am happy for an another road tripping video because I am really beginning to consider a Tesla considering these gas prices…
If you decide to order one be warned that the wait time to receive the car is a long time! The wait times noted on your account aren't accurate at all and can suddenly say 2 or more months longer. My husband and I ordered one in late June and got our Model 3 SR plus in mid August of 2021. The one big drawback to cars post May 2021 is the lack of radar. The car depends on cameras only for the autopilot and full self driving. There are a lot of phantom braking issues with these cars including ours. Very shocking to be driving highway speeds then have car sharply brake. You can report it by pushing in on right steering button and saying bug report phantom braking report. They are working on it but it's not solved yet.
@@debbiestaneland231 Seasoned owner here, and so-called phantom braking may be legitimate triggers that the human driver may not react to. Remain vigilant and be prepared to react. Vision-only braking issues are rare to non-existent in my experience.
I love my Tesla model 3, and she's right the auto pilot makes all the difference. Even paying attention to the road as you're supposed to, the eye strain and brain fatigue of a road trip is FAR less. She didn't mention the seats, but I find the Tesla seats extremely comfortable, I don't get back pain or a numb bum from sitting long periods of time. The touch screen and built in map and traffic maps are also so helpful, best road trip car.
Great video! Thanks for sharing your experience with everyone. That is a beautiful route. I want to take my 2018 Model S 100D on that trip. Driving through Mt. Shasta is so beautiful!
Thanks for this video, I’m convinced, I will never get an electric vehicle for road trips. A hybrid, yes. All electric if for commuting in town and charged in my own garage every night. Really makes me like the idea of a plug-in hybrid, best of both worlds. Too bad they’re so hard to come by now. I realize I’m old school, but on a road trip I usually just want to power through and get there. Great video Shelby!
Use the built in trip app to monitor your battery capacity and estimated mileage when road tripping. It’s VERY accurate. I usually pull into a Supercharger between 5-10%.
First, you make me wanna get a tesla, the cost difference is huge and I can't imagine doing that road trip with autopilot! Second, love Mt. Shasta! Last but not least, that 'autopilot' coffee option at the supercharging station seems so cool haha!
Thanks for this, I love a good road trip and am planning on getting a Model 3 in a couple of weeks. This video was especially interesting as you were driving a standard range model. I've been trying to decide between one of these and the long range dual motor, which is tempting not only for longer range but also because it charges faster... but the $7,000 difference is price is a big deal. You've helped me decide to get the standard range model.
Back to September, I drove from San Antonio TX to Fort Wayne IN which is 1300 mile trip in my challenger Rt v8 it took me 23 hours, I prefer to do that than spending 3 days sitting on a battery...
I just drove my Durango Hemi from Englewood Fla to the Pocono mountains in 18 hours! That’s 1280 miles! I had my wife with me but she doesn’t drive the highways! I don’t think I can deal with having to stop 10 times at 40 minutes a stop!
What a lovely road trip Shelby! So nice that your sister Monica, made the trip, with you! Good memories shared but; constantly stopping at the charging stations, did give you a chance to stretch your legs! Exploring the territory, is good during the day! Nice video!⭐️👍⭐️
Nostalgia-my old "stomping grounds" Vacaville, Napa, Williams, Corning, Mount Shasta (this place has AMAZING snow skiing and incredible old-world Italian and German restaurants).
Thanks for this vlog. My husband and I usually drive from San Francisco to San Diego in 7 to 8 hours ( depending on L.A. traffic of course) and usually only have to stop once for gas and bathroom break. We were thinking of getting Tesla but now we know not for us due to our road trips. But it would be great for second car for city driving. Thanks, Shelby!🥰🥰
Nice division of labour! Monica did the wineries/breweries review on her channel and you ended up posting the Tesla drive on yours. We don’t often see you together and this is a video well done! Looking forward to new content in the future.
So I made two trips to pismo from Clovis, CA one with 02 Mini cooper 24 mpg / one with 2018 Tesla M3 Long range 160 mile trip Mini cooper fuel cost:$105 (to and from) Tesla Model 3: 24.00 (to and from) I spent that extra 80.00 on my daughter at local stores/gifts shops. I promise you, the difference from combustion engine to electric is compatible from going from Nokia to IPhone any generation. You'll love it, my New M3 is coming in Oct
These cars are great for roadtrips, and you’ll never really get stranded so as long as there’s an outlet available somewhere I’m in the process of taking my Model 3 Standard to every state west of the Mississippi, except for Louisiana, Alaska, and Hawaii, and have had a great time doing so. Only had minor issues in rural Missouri and Utah They also make great weekend campers because of the interior’s layout, storage, and climate control.
Great video! But until the chargers can provide 400 miles in 5 minutes (and the range of the car is at least 400 miles) it will really impact drive time for trips of any real duration. Around town and even commuting to / from work each day is still really the sweet spot for EV's.
This video was very helpful as I am considering an Electric car in the near future. I believe you said that your tease gets like 167 miles per charge, where the newer cars get around double that, which would make the trip probably seven stops which is feasible. The range is still the limiting factor in electric, but at least they are improving it each year.
Her car gets 244, she only charged 167 miles. The car’s map will auto determine the fastest charging to drive ratio, it charges very very fast when battery low, but slows significantly when nearing full. So, it auto optimizes your stops as to not sit waiting to tip top to full. All newer models have longer range and charge speed compared to her car, thus significantly more useable range and trip speed.
Like I wrote, no one should drive their own car that far! It makes far more sense to ship it and wait for it than to drive it all the way there. Not just time and electricity/fuel costs saved, but wear and tear as well. Anything more than four hours is too much unless I plan to do an around the country or around the world tour.
Not to be a stickler, but that "Burbank" one is actually Glendale. And word to the wise, do NOT go there at night. Not because it's dangerous, but because there is ALWAYS a queue line because of the In N Out
Cool video! Btw, 16:16 you could use the stats section of the Tesla app to see how many kWh you charged (and the total in $). And the total saved if with gas.
Time to move up to a long range 350 mile car. Bigger battery, faster charging, way more flexibility. And your car has appreciated, so not that big an outlay.
That short range model is no joke! Did a 400ish mile 7+ hour drive yesterday I'm my 2018 Long Range and had to stop only once about halfway for just long enough to hit the restroom and eat a sandwich at Subway, and then charged at our destination.
what was your road speed ? that can affect your range when you're pegging 70 and up too... part of the reason they have so many stops, is to reduce the total charging time - they don't charge you up to 100% - because the last roughly 15-20% your charging rate slows down - you're better off spending that time on the road moving and do another shorter stop to charge partially again...
I imagine if you stayed at the respective superchargers longer to charge to a higher percentage, I believe you’d make less stops! I’ve spent 30 min at a supercharger before to reach 90%
Hi! Is it better to do a lot of small short stopts to supercharge the car or is it better to do a mayor big stop to fully charge? Would there be a difference?
just to the point where the charging speed is dropping, then you have to go. may always from 5% to may 80%. drive fast, charge fast. some (short) stopps are skippable
I do a mix of both depending on other factors like bio-break, snacks or a meal - especially if I'm driving alone. The general strategy, like some have pointed out, is to charge up to 80%, then continue. More frequent but shorter stops is the most time efficient approach overall. However, I have started just setting the max to 100% in case I get stuck waiting in line or need longer for various reasons. This gives me the option to charge more if I'm tied up anyway. I have found the navigation tends to be a bit conservative, so I will sometimes look for a further out stop - especially if it is a V3 instead of settling for a V2 recommended by the system.
This was actually great as it showed me that an electric car is not even close. Just last week I drove from Las Vegas to Napa in a gas powered car with driver assist and back. For the week trip I spend $220 dollars in gas which is arguably more than electric, but here is the thing that nobody is talking about. 1) Many of the chargers are on the side of the road where there is nothing. Me as a male, I think I would be OK to charge there at night, but my wife would be scared shit. On a gas station there are ALWAYS people and you don't have to be scared and it takes you 5 minutes max. 2) The even more important thing is the cost in the future. With gas, you have some sort of competition to choose from and if you do not like the prices at your current location, you might get better ones 50 miles down the road. In pretty much every state, we have ONE exclusive energy provider. For California, this is PG&E. They can and will dictate the prices in the future and there is no way you can get around it. Even worse, with power outages especially in CA, how would you charge your car? 3) When you said that your 3 year old car already has 20% less range compared to new. I am sure that the Audi A4 you compared it with has the same range if 1 or 5 years old. Don't get me wrong, I love electric cars, but telling people "It is great to have all these stops" is strange. The missing infrastructure and the fact that the US would not be able to charge all cars if everyone would have one, adds to the fact that for now, this is a nice to have first world gimmick.
She is using the "estimated" range display that changes all the time based on driving habits to compare what the car showed when new to now. Most actual tests show Tesla batteries degrade about 8% at 100,000 miles and then pretty much stay around that level. I own a model 3 and I do agree with your other points. Where they really shine is daily driving while charging at home. Roadtrips although I have done a couple are for ICE vehicles.
Thank you for sharing this. So now I know what it would like to be, driving with my Model 3 (SR) e.g. from Hamburg (Germany) to Naples (Italy) for holiday season, which has the same distance :-)
Part of the issue with the Tesla is it doesn’t have a Guess O Meter. The range numbers you are quoting are just the battery % vs the EPA range rating. It doesn’t take into account how you have been driving. The trip computer does and that’s why it tells you to stop more often. Your speed and the grade of the road will change how much range you can actually get. And finally your comparison vehicle would not get its EPA range climbing the mountains to Mt Shasta. So it’s not a true comparison.
Definitely need to use overnight charging at hotels - saves you time and money. A large reason for so many stops is due to the elevation changes over the route.
Sounds like the planner wasn't very good. 11 stops for 1200 miles along a route heavily covered with chargers is really inefficient. Looks like stopping with 40% still in the battery.
Really enjoyed your Tesla Road Trip. I do have a couple of comments regarding the cost of the trip. According to Tesla the cost of electricity per kwh is $.28/kwh and it would take 34 kWh to go 100 miles. Meaning your trip cost closer to $115. EV's "fuel costs" are getting a hidden subsidy. They don't pay state and federal excise gas taxes even though they use the same roads ( let's leave out that debate for another time). So to compare the Tesla's "fuel cost" to an ICE car that gets 30-33/mpg with an average cost of $6/gal and then subtract the excise taxes, the 1200 mile trip would cost appx. $180. So while the Tesla has the distinct "fuel cost" advantage over an ICE car today, consider last year at this time gas was half the price. Then the "fuel cost" between the two type of cars would be comparable. Don't get me wrong EV cars are the future but we need to be realistic about the costs involved.
Many states now have an EV fee to make up for the loss of gas taxes. I’m in Alabama and it’s a $200 fee per year even though I roughly only paid $65 in gas taxes when I had my gas car.
It amazes me how dishonest people have to be with the math and science to even come close to making a case for ICE over electrc on cost or environmental impact. Sad.
@@FitzieJJ Your comment is queer in that I took no sides one ether technology other than saying, "...EV cars are the future...".Your complaint comes without any specifics. Do they research and do the math.
@@MrOso36 EPA rating for her car is 25.7 KWh per 100 miles, not 34. In her video she said charging at all stations but one was $.24 per KWh, not $.28. Pretending gas tax doesn't exist won't make it go away when people fill their tank. I don't see a single honest # in your "comparison". How's that for reasearch and math?
a 500 mile road trip is 2 fuel ups, assuming I start with a full tank- ROUND TRIP...... Drive to destination(500 miles) Fillup to explore the town. Then fillup and drive 500 miles home. I will stick with my VW TDIs but I do know some folks require or atleast enjoy frequent stops.
if you login onto your Tesla app, click on your avatar at top right. Under Account, then Charging, you can find your entire History of charging and each sessions' cost with # of kWh @ what price/kWh. You can also find the Invoice for each charging session so you can add them up for your business deductions!!! Your welcome! Luv your videos!!!!
Williams is bomb. Louis Cairos is a staple for Colusa county peps. And granzellas pizza is fab. Did y’all go to the Olive Pit in Corning? Yummo. Next time.
Love Kettleman stop, it's such a wonderful location plus there is a larger shopping center a couple blocks away with some amazing candy treats. The Corning Starbucks right there had a wonderful Halloween décor a couple years ago. Super impressive for sure!
I LOVE your Arizona Sweatshirt. I’m a huge Arizona Wildcats basketball fan!! Great video. I grew up in Sacramento, Ca. It is so pretty driving in Northern California.
The fuel (electricity) cost is for sure cheaper than doing a road trip in a gas car, but when you add up the cost of hotels, food, plane tickets, would it have been cheaper to just ship the car? Palm Springs to Seattle has to be ~$600 on a car carrier.
In comparison, if you were driving a gas car, how many stops/time spent stopping would that have been? Just doing some quick math on my own car I’d only have to stop 3 times for gas for a 1200 mile road trip.
Exactly my point. And you get there a whole day sooner. That drive is only 12 hours. I drove from Phx to Seattle and it only took us 24 hours of drive time and just under 48 hours to get there.
@@MrsMuffin11 exactly. Like I’m sure you’d stop an extra time or two for food/bathroom breaks in addition to getting gas but it would be nowhere near the amount of times they stopped just to charge. I’m also curious how much out of the way it is to get to Tesla chargers compared to gas stations that are always right on the highway.
She said that miles for an ICE car would have been 1,000 miles. Audi A4 on a full tank of fuel can get little over 500 miles. If you leave with a full tank, you'll have to stop only once for fuel. I have an A5 Sportback and can get 40mpg doing 70mph with a 14.5 gallon tank, easy over 500 miles.
@@_Mario_PL_ The Audi would not have gone 500 miles per tank on that particular trip. You are comparing flat highway driving an A4 to driving the Tesla through mountains.
@@MrsMuffin11 That’s true but it’s not how quick you get there that counts it’s the fact that you can get there on an electric vehicle and pay little to nothing to get there. I have unlimited supercharging because I have an older model Tesla. I recently took a trip from Florida all the way to Yellowstone National Park. The round-trip was free for me. If I would’ve been driving a regular vehicle it would’ve cost me over $1500 in fuel round-trip. Of Course it did take me an extra 4 1/2 hours to get there, but I will always trade 4 1/2 hours to save $1500 any day. Also as mentioned earlier most people are gonna stop to stretch their legs multiple times and get food in a regular car as well so you’re really only wasting half the stops. If you coordinate your stops when you would normally eat and go to the bathroom it’s really not that bad, also the Tesla just plays it safe, you could actually skip some of those stops and go directly to the next stop and be good to go. You just have to get more comfortable with what the car can actually do but once you get past the range anxiety issues it’s a no-brainer.
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It is super important to note that your car is the standard range model. The range is 100 miles less than a long range, but more importantly the peak charge rate is 175kwh vs 250kwh in a long range. Longer road-trips like this are when having a long range model is worth it. Stops are about 3 hours apart which is a perfect amount of time imo. With the standard range you’re definitely going to be stopping before you feel like you need to.
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Yes exactly. Her 2019 model 3 only has ~220 miles of range, whereas a 2022 model 3 long range has 334 miles and charges faster.
The vehicle with the longest range is the model S LR at 405 miles.
@@BobDobbs681 like 10k more.
Umm seriously! I drove 8 hours from Las Vegas to Reno and only had to stop 3 times with my 22 MYP and some stops that had 250kwh chargers I was in and out in 10-15 minutes. My car was often ready before I was!
There’s not a 100 miles difference between the SR+ and LR. I think it’s something like 65 miles.
Three weeks ago we did a 3257 mile trip in a 2022 Model 3 LR. The nominal range is 358 miles. The trip was Fishers, Indiana, Minneapolis, MN, Thunder Bay, Ontario, Sault Ste Marie, Sudbury, ON, Quebec City, Detroit, MI, Fishers, IN. We made a total of 20 charges, 19 at Superchargers and a final one at home. The average stretch between chargers was 163 miles. We don't do what Tesla recommends but go until it's down to 20% or we want a toilet and food break. The price of a kWh in the US where they quote it by the kWh was $.41 a kWh. None of these would be considered 'busy chargers'. A year or two ago it was $.29. Most of Canada seemed to be by cost per minute at different charging rates. The amount we paid total was $357 based on what Tesla billed us plus what I calculated for final charging at home (14 cents/kWh). Superchargers were at all the right locations in the boonies of Canada. However, most of the superchargers were at Canadian Tire locations... no food and only a restroom at the waiting room for tire service. I'd give each one of them a 2/10. This was a classic road trip, not a tour of Canada except for Old Quebec City. BTW, we are 80 and 81. My wife did almost all the driving and I was the 'flight engineer'.
A Standard Range Plus vs. a Long Range does make a difference in the number of charging stops, for sure. I recently did a 1,211 mile (round trip) in my Long Range Model 3, and we had a total of 7 stops.
If was watching this video and thinking to myself, that it would have taken six or seven stops in a LRM3. I’m am not quite up to it yet, but maybe one day…
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That works out to 175 mikes between stops or 3 hours. For most people that is when they'd stop with an ICE.
I definitely wouldn't mind stopping 5 times on an 8 hour trip, because I don't like sitting or driving for that long, and 10 to 20 minute breaks are nice to have.
Definitely not the case for everyone but certainly the case for many. I prefer to drive through 8 hours, nonstop.
@@JChurchua Prolonged sitting is a common way for people to get deep vein thrombosis (blood clots in their legs) which can travel to your lung artery and cause sudden death. Always good to get up and stretch your legs every couple hours
@@stevehan8157 Maybe as a lifestyle, but doing that "occasionally on vacation" is probably not harmful or dangerous.
I stay healthy and active otherwise, so i trust my body can handle 8 hours(and more) of sitting...
@@JChurchua Medical science would disagree with you.
@@stevehan8157 So, If I live an active lifestyle I am still susceptible to these blood clots on an occasional 8+ hour resting/sitting time? I'd be curious to see those facts. Office folks must be in seriously bad health if they dont take regular breaks... I am not in the medical field at all, so i do NOT know, but i am sceptical.
I just finished a 1500 miles trip from Dallas to Los Angeles. The total cost is $185. 461kwh electricity. Average cost per kWh is .4. It’s actually much more than I planned. When I first had my model 3 four years ago. The supercharger is super cheap. Some sites are even free. But now it’s not saving any cost comparing to gas efficient cars. The only benefit is the auto pilot.
In what world would gas only cost you 185 from Dallas to LA? 🧢
1500 miles 50 miles/gal for a Prius that’s 30-35 gallons at 5$ a gallon sounds about right if you have a hybrid/Prius
@@Cocoshack 50 miles/gal is not on a long trip, but with a lot of city driving where the electric motor can help, it doesn't do that at constant speed on a highway
Kudos for taking a 1,200 mile trip in a standard range Model 3. Stops will definitely be more frequent. A new 2022 long range Model 3 will get up to 350 miles per charge which would probably make long trips more enjoyable as you would not need to stop as much.
That’s also pretty comparable to a newer model gas car. Maybe even a smidge more.
My 2022 M3LR (w/18" aero covers) tops out around 270 miles of range when driving sustained freeway speeds (70-80mph) in flat as a board Ohio, that is with a full charge to 100%. I first tried it with 90% going up to Cleveland and was hilariously short. Tried 95% and still hit the supercharger before heading home. Did 100% thinking I'd have a fighters chance to get back to my house (280 miles round trip) and I limped the tesla into a supercharger about 15 miles from my house and it said 11 miles of range left.
I'm not hating on it though. I love it and supercharger times are minimal with the LR. Just pointing out that the 358 mile range is for conservative driving in the city. It is not at all accurate for a road trip.
@@madisonschmidt1288 On a road trip my 2015 Mustang will go about 400 miles on a tank of gas.
@@kylenowak6300prius has a 580 mile range.
I just did a 1300+ mile trip in two days (Seattle to Denver). On the first day, I used ABRP which had me make more stops for really short times. The second day, I just used in-car nav. I took two hour-long lunch breaks (so i could sit down in a restaurant) and charged it to 100% while doing that. I also stayed in a hotel on the first night and free charged all the way up ;) The whole trip cost me around 100 bucks for that one-way. I was so much less fatigued than all the other road trips I've taken in my life and I used EAP most of the way so it was just a breeze. Went through three audio-books and cranked my entire 80s library ....was a great trip! BTW--the cost of supercharging went up everywhere..not just in CA--it's ALWAYS 48 cents per KW in Oregon and Washington now.
Supercharging got way more expensive recently. Drive from St. Louis Missouri to Dallas TX, cost was (620 miles distance) $61. Average price kWh paid around 38 cents. Had 4 supercharging stops and took 13 hours total in a M3 long range 2021. Great video by the way!!!
we did from St Augustine FL->Chicago->Niagra Falls->Utica, NY->Boston, MA-> Washington DC->Nashville, TN and back to St Augustine, FL on a Model 3. However, the difference is ours is a long range. It was not continuous (obviously), but it did it and autopilot was a life saver.
EVs are perfect as a daily driver around town. If you go on a long trip, it depends on how quickly you need to get there. If we're not limited by time, we take our 2018 Tesla. If we need to get there quickly we take our ICE. I can get from LA to SF in less than 6 hours in an ICE car (nearly 500 gas range), 7-8 hours with the Tesla when we charge halfway and then charge again when we roll into town
The reason why it was getting you to stop more often in parts of the trip may be due to driving through either mountain ranges or up and down hills or major elevation changes. These steep or long climbs might require more power to be consumed than regularly calculated. The road planner takes those details into account. Had you not stopped and gambled it, after a few steep climbs, could have been left stranded without power. Yeah, maybe you could go the full length of distance, but those climbs and elevation changes would have consumed way more battery than thought.
The major issue with EV energy consumption with EV's,heavy car combined with mountain roads and the need to mash the 'Go pedel'= range drops like a stone. Drive like a SR Citezen,flat roads,no A/C=Awesome range! Lol
$17 bucks beats $50 for gas,but in reality on highway you get better mileage on I.C.E
One major positive if you get S.R Tesla it forces you to get out of the car and walk!
So have you figured out yet why it has you stop more often than you have range for? The car is calculating for the quickest trip. Charging slows down as the battery fills up, so the quickest trip uses only the bottom 2/3 of the battery, even if it means an extra stop, because the stops are shorter. Enjoyed your video, nicely done. It was fun seeing those same places I stopped at on 2 trips between Seattle and So Cal. I "camped" in the car overnight in the Shasta area both ways. You should have said the superchargers with shade like Kettleman have solar panels on all that roof. Sun-powered cars!
Driving from Fort Lauderdale to Jacksonville and stopping 3 times for 30 minutes each added 1.5 hours to our already long trip. I told my boyfriend, we take the Mazda 3 each time lmao! With a full tank in the Mazda, I never have to stop, other then a few minutes for lunch.
Yep keep the gas car for trips.
Just took my model y to Yellowstone from San Diego and it was great! The stops were at times when we already wanted to stretch and take our dog out for potty breaks and a little walk. Very impressed!
Good point that charging gives you more time to stretch and walk around a bit. I think it’s very important to move around and get circulation in your legs and to focus away from the road.
Shelby - your point about autopilot being a godsend is so true - dramatically reduces the fatigue of long road trips. Even though your standard range Model 3 required more Supercharger stops than a long range model, the Supercharger stops for my road trips to LA and Phoenix have been no big deal. Another cool point - while charging you can keep the AC (or heat) running so you can just chill out in the car or, like you did, explore the area. My Tesla 3 long range is the best road trip car I've ever owned vs. the many ICE cars I've owned and taken on multi-day trips. And if you are worried about range reduction over time I'm approaching year 3 and the range of the car fully charged is still over 300 miles. Leaving fully charge from the SF Bay Area I can get to LA with one Supercharger stop (I usually stop twice - in Kettleman and in Santa Clarita - to break up the trip and to arrive with more charge). Taking advantage of destination charging helps a lot too. Great video!
Auto pilot & all this techno crap on vehicles are making people such bad drivers. They do not know how to really stay alert & have tunnel vision on the road. People do not know how to enter on a highway anymore, they do not know how to back up or parallel park..... When backing up not many know how to actually use their mirrors. I do not need a stupid backup camera because I know how to use my mirrors. People do not know how to read a map. They rely on a navigation system.
@YYpang Better than your generation of lazy self-entitled whining clueless. sensitive cry babies. People today do not even know how to enter a highway properly. Constantly on their phones while driving. Have to have auto lights because they are too lazy to turn the light switch on themselves....... I can just imagine them try driving a car when I was a young man. No power steering, no power windows, no cruise control. No poser brakes & a stick shift on top of that. P.S. by the way my 2011 Ram 3500 4 x 4 dually I bought in September of 2012 with 10,095 miles on it now has over 1 Million miles on it. Yes I drive that much.
I've done three road trips in my Tesla I have three dogs so stopping is honestly great, they use the bathroom, eat, stretch and my husband and I get off use the restroom get something to eat. We've always had to make longer stops with out gas vehicle because we're always with our dogs. Overall its a great experience. LOVE MY TESLA.
Remember not to stop at Kettleman City. They don’t let dogs use the bathroom there. lol
14:07 - The “miles” shown next to the battery are usually much more than you can actually drive in the real world - especially at freeway speeds. That’s why you noticed it wasn’t going as far between charges than you were expecting. The “energy” screen will show “projected” range, which is a far more accurate “miles till empty” calculation. It’s also what your navigation uses to calculate supercharger stops. I find the “miles” display so frustratingly inaccurate that I switched to % and use the energy screen if I ever need to know how many “miles” I have left.
I loved the Kettleman charging station. It’s been my favorite one so far. I also stopped at one in Hollister, Ca that had lots to explore and a cute store. I totally agree road-trips on the Tesla are actually really fun even though they’re a bit longer. You get to stop at interesting places. Tesla did a really good job scouting these places. It helps being business to a lot of them too from people that might have otherwise drove past so it’s a win win.
My husband and I drove from Gatineau, Quebec (near Ottawa, Ontario) to Halifax Nova Scotia last October. It was so easy to travel that distance!! (About 1600 km) The stops make sense since it's nice to go to the bathroom and stretch your legs, as you say Shelby. The one thing that we didn't like was the fact that our car is post May 2021 which means there is no radar and camera only autopilot/full self driving. We have a Model 3 SR plus 2021. Phantom braking in camera only cars is a really big problem. We experienced some scary braking episodes on an empty New Brunswick high in FSD mode. The car suddenly braked, sharply, with nothing to trigger it. Quite scary. So, we're a little nervous to use it at all, sadly. Love the car otherwise and so so happy that we're an all electric car family now with the Tesla and our 2019 Nissan Leaf. We are moving to Nova Scotia in the late fall. Going to have the Leaf shipped by rail because it would be too long and tiresome to stop to charge it very often for that distance. The Tesla can handle it very easily, on the other hand. The difference between the two cars is that the Nissan only cools the battery through air movement. The Tesla has liquid cooling of the battery pack which is significantly better. As the car drives the battery pack heats up significantly and with proper coolant it is still able to charge quickly at each stop. The Nissan would take a lot longer each successive stop due to the battery being so heated from driving it.
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Hi, don't use fsd on your longer trips. Fsd is still in experimental stage, but it's getting better with time. I think autopilot is good for long journeys
Loved the video. I have a feeling this charging break after every 2 hours (from what I could see that was the average), is a little on purpose. The rule of thumb is to have a 15 minute break after every 2 hours of driving. I can see Musk being sneaky enough to program this rhythm on purpose, to encourage people to take regular breaks from driving.
You're very inspiring, Shelby, keep at it!
They have superchargers at the Burbank In-n-out, how cool... oh, wait... she's in Glendale.
Great video! As someone that drives from SF to LA multiple times a year, I agree that it’s best to charge just enough so you can get to the next charging station safely.
For example, I drive a Long Range RWD Model 3 (~300 Mi @ 100%). I typically would stop 3x from SF to LA, but for a very short amount of time. 5 mins in Firebaugh, 10 mins in Kettleman City, 5 mins at Tejon Ranch (so I don’t get to LA with 0%). That’s only a total of 25 mins of charging for a ~380 mi road trip. ⚡️
A few week back we did a 3,000 miles around road trip with my brother from SoCal to Austin, TX. We trues ABRP but dor my Tesla Model 3 using the Tesla SC inbuilt M3 app was fine. Best thing was all my SC charging was all free. We did Total about 14 to 15 Superchargers.
The autopilot is pretty cool for road trips or any freeway trip really. Plus, it continuously checks your heart strength by locking the brakes up without cause or notice from time to time, providing you with a free cardiac stress test. People driving behind you get this free test as well. The knowledge that this can and will happen at anytime causes me to maintain a constant death grip on the steering wheel also, which is another fine free safety feature.
LOL
Shelby: Driving while talking to the camera and shooting a video
Monica: reclines and takes a nap and has no idea where she even is
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No hate to Monica, I’d be napping too, but it’s just such classic Church sisters
Shelby puts out more videos as well.
1,200 miles @ 40MPG diesel.(realistic for a roadtrip is closer to 50MPG)
that is 30 Gallons @ $5.25 =
$157"ish"
Can arrive to the destination with minimal stops and wasted time. Interestingly enough, you can calculate how much your time is worth and if it is wasted waiting for a charge. Not to talk about those stops in places you never would normally stop can lead to unexpected spent money on souvenirs or food you wouldnt normally buy(if you werent "forced" to stop).. Just different ways to look at it.
Pro tip - the Kettleman City Supercharger has much faster chargers lined up at the far end. You were at the slower ones.
Long range teslas save a lot of time- only 1 stop between LA and Napa, and destination chargers are the best.
For her car it doesn’t matter. She has a standard range which can’t charge at 250
@@medinadamian sr+ goes to 170kWh though and should hold a better charge rate as its water cooled
Older standard range with range loss, still not bad overall. I have 6 month old model Y LR. I have noticed that I can push the miles if I really want to by being careful to do near the speed limit. Currently, I estimate my range to be in the 230 to 250 range with AC at 72 and tunes blasting the entire time doing 75-ish. I just completed a 370 mile road trip in Florida and only stopped once to charge. That's leaving with 100% charged battery. For some reason, it wanted me to charge way short of my expected location - so I canceled the trip and decided to navigate directly to the supercharger instead. That worked pretty well. Even though I was driving near 80 mph, the car initially said I wouldn't make it. By the time I arrived, I still had over 20% range left. This first leg was 183 miles. This was a combined meal/snack/bio-break so we charged nearly to 95% - which took about 50 minutes. We made it another 185 miles to our final stop - we arrived with 7% charge left. Keep in mind that Florida is a lot flatter, so I'm sure that helped. But, I did have 5 people + a dog in the back + a pretty full hitch mounted cargo carrier with luggage.
I hadn't considered an older Tesla would lose charging capacity, wonder by how much. Monica gets sister of the year for tagging along.
There are two answers. To how much battery capacity loss to expect over time:
Answer 1
You should loose between 5-10% after the first 50-100k miles. Then the losses slow down and you should lose about 20% after about 300K miles. So the car should retain about 80% charge capacity after about 300k miles. The new 4680 battery rolling out now from Texas factory should lose charge Much slower resulting in 80% charge after 1 million miles. A "million mile battery".
Answer 2
She Might find that if she reconditions her battery, runs it to 2% or less then charges it back to 100%, she might get capacity back.
A premature "loss" of capacity can occur over time and need a reset to get it back.
She indicated loss from 242> 220 after less than a couple of years (
lets ask HardTechLead
After 49 months of Long Range Model 3 ownership, I'm still at ~99% capacity. Disregard blanket statements that all EV batteries degrade. . . .
@@johnp.weiksnar6861 after 2.5 years of ownership (30 months) i went from ~320 mi to ~297 mi., a 14% drop. quite disappointing.
@@hersheykiss9500 Dear Sir, Thats a 7% drop not 14%
The stops are not as bad if you think about it. We miss some of the opportunities to explore when on a road trip and the long period requires some stretching too
TH-cam really needs to do something about all the whatsapp spamming in the comment sections.
Our 01 DGC EX has over 318K miles and gets over 400 miles per tank on the highway using AC going 75 to 80 mph. I drive about five times a year, from Chicago to Mount Pleasant, MI, to pick up our daughter from college. (About 550 miles total all in the same day) It normally cost $50 to fill up once.
Don't forget to add in the cost, of every dollar you spend, at every stop you make. When I travel, I fill up our travel cooler with ice and perishable foods. (Sandwich's, dinner, fruit, water, juice and veggies) I have a DC 12V portable oven, I use to heat up food. I have a snack bag with chips, fruit snacks, granola bars, trail mix, etc. I eat and drink while I drive. I only need to stop to fill up and use the bathroom. (That's about every four hrs.)
Also, I carry two 5 gal. Jerry cans of gasoline, for an emergency.
It would be cool if Tesla creates a sort of portable power wall. Where if you start running low you can hook up the power wall in your trunk to boost your battery. And when that's depleted, you can stop at a supercharger where you can recharge both your car and power wall for another time.
We did Cork to Cornwall in our RWD model 3 in August two stops and on the first the car was finished refueling ourselves each time we charged to 100% and we had surplus miles at the end of the journey to use over the first few days of the holiday.
I love how you share how road tripping in a Tesla is! I am happy for an another road tripping video because I am really beginning to consider a Tesla considering these gas prices…
If you decide to order one be warned that the wait time to receive the car is a long time! The wait times noted on your account aren't accurate at all and can suddenly say 2 or more months longer. My husband and I ordered one in late June and got our Model 3 SR plus in mid August of 2021. The one big drawback to cars post May 2021 is the lack of radar. The car depends on cameras only for the autopilot and full self driving. There are a lot of phantom braking issues with these cars including ours. Very shocking to be driving highway speeds then have car sharply brake. You can report it by pushing in on right steering button and saying bug report phantom braking report. They are working on it but it's not solved yet.
@@debbiestaneland231 Seasoned owner here, and so-called phantom braking may be legitimate triggers that the human driver may not react to. Remain vigilant and be prepared to react. Vision-only braking issues are rare to non-existent in my experience.
If you stop and eat at superchargers and charge longer you should be able to skip some of the chargers the car suggest.
going over 70-75mph will kill the range lol we did vancouver wa to anaheim california and found this the hard way
I love my Tesla model 3, and she's right the auto pilot makes all the difference. Even paying attention to the road as you're supposed to, the eye strain and brain fatigue of a road trip is FAR less. She didn't mention the seats, but I find the Tesla seats extremely comfortable, I don't get back pain or a numb bum from sitting long periods of time. The touch screen and built in map and traffic maps are also so helpful, best road trip car.
Great video! Thanks for sharing your experience with everyone. That is a beautiful route. I want to take my 2018 Model S 100D on that trip. Driving through Mt. Shasta is so beautiful!
Thanks for this video, I’m convinced, I will never get an electric vehicle for road trips. A hybrid, yes. All electric if for commuting in town and charged in my own garage every night. Really makes me like the idea of a plug-in hybrid, best of both worlds. Too bad they’re so hard to come by now. I realize I’m old school, but on a road trip I usually just want to power through and get there. Great video Shelby!
What are some examples of plug-in hybrids that you know of?
@@chocolatewheelchair My New Lexus RX hybrid gives me more than 500 miles mate, much better than a Tesla.
Use the built in trip app to monitor your battery capacity and estimated mileage when road tripping. It’s VERY accurate. I usually pull into a Supercharger between 5-10%.
First, you make me wanna get a tesla, the cost difference is huge and I can't imagine doing that road trip with autopilot! Second, love Mt. Shasta! Last but not least, that 'autopilot' coffee option at the supercharging station seems so cool haha!
@Yunusa lol
Thanks for this, I love a good road trip and am planning on getting a Model 3 in a couple of weeks. This video was especially interesting as you were driving a standard range model. I've been trying to decide between one of these and the long range dual motor, which is tempting not only for longer range but also because it charges faster... but the $7,000 difference is price is a big deal.
You've helped me decide to get the standard range model.
congrates
Back to September, I drove from San Antonio TX to Fort Wayne IN which is 1300 mile trip in my challenger Rt v8 it took me 23 hours, I prefer to do that than spending 3 days sitting on a battery...
I just drove my Durango Hemi from Englewood Fla to the Pocono mountains in 18 hours! That’s 1280 miles! I had my wife with me but she doesn’t drive the highways! I don’t think I can deal with having to stop 10 times at 40 minutes a stop!
Love my 2022 Model 3 LR --- No turning back -- GOOD BY ICE cars !! You Girls are Great !!
I love these types of videos it’s actually cool to watch
What a lovely road trip Shelby! So nice that your sister Monica, made the trip, with you! Good memories shared but; constantly stopping at the charging stations, did give you a chance to stretch your legs! Exploring the territory, is good during the day! Nice video!⭐️👍⭐️
Nostalgia-my old "stomping grounds" Vacaville, Napa, Williams, Corning, Mount Shasta (this place has AMAZING snow skiing and incredible old-world Italian and German restaurants).
Thanks for this vlog. My husband and I usually drive from San Francisco to San Diego in 7 to 8 hours ( depending on L.A. traffic of course) and usually only have to stop once for gas and bathroom break. We were thinking of getting Tesla but now we know not for us due to our road trips. But it would be great for second car for city driving. Thanks, Shelby!🥰🥰
You look really happy, relaxed and content. Great video!!!!
Nice division of labour! Monica did the wineries/breweries review on her channel and you ended up posting the Tesla drive on yours. We don’t often see you together and this is a video well done! Looking forward to new content in the future.
So I made two trips to pismo from Clovis, CA one with 02 Mini cooper 24 mpg / one with 2018 Tesla M3 Long range
160 mile trip
Mini cooper fuel cost:$105 (to and from)
Tesla Model 3: 24.00 (to and from)
I spent that extra 80.00 on my daughter at local stores/gifts shops. I promise you, the difference from combustion engine to electric is compatible from going from Nokia to IPhone any generation. You'll love it, my New M3 is coming in Oct
These cars are great for roadtrips, and you’ll never really get stranded so as long as there’s an outlet available somewhere
I’m in the process of taking my Model 3 Standard to every state west of the Mississippi, except for Louisiana, Alaska, and Hawaii, and have had a great time doing so. Only had minor issues in rural Missouri and Utah
They also make great weekend campers because of the interior’s layout, storage, and climate control.
Great video! But until the chargers can provide 400 miles in 5 minutes (and the range of the car is at least 400 miles) it will really impact drive time for trips of any real duration. Around town and even commuting to / from work each day is still really the sweet spot for EV's.
Added 3.5 hours to your trip… that gonna be what 7 hours round trip???? I’ll stick with my gas car this was educational to say the least 🤣
I love your Tesla videos. Very well done and enjoyable to watch.
This video was very helpful as I am considering an Electric car in the near future. I believe you said that your tease gets like 167 miles per charge, where the newer cars get around double that, which would make the trip probably seven stops which is feasible. The range is still the limiting factor in electric, but at least they are improving it each year.
Her car gets 244, she only charged 167 miles. The car’s map will auto determine the fastest charging to drive ratio, it charges very very fast when battery low, but slows significantly when nearing full. So, it auto optimizes your stops as to not sit waiting to tip top to full. All newer models have longer range and charge speed compared to her car, thus significantly more useable range and trip speed.
I enjoyed your share and I liked the Tesla I tested 👍 Thanks for the beautiful share Shelby 🌹
Nothing like a 1200 mile road trip to leave you fried and ruffled! You don't see this in the u.k,its too small!✌️❤️🇬🇧 much love to you both
UK roads are more winding though it forces your to be more engaged at driving
Like I wrote, no one should drive their own car that far! It makes far more sense to ship it and wait for it than to drive it all the way there. Not just time and electricity/fuel costs saved, but wear and tear as well. Anything more than four hours is too much unless I plan to do an around the country or around the world tour.
Not to be a stickler, but that "Burbank" one is actually Glendale. And word to the wise, do NOT go there at night. Not because it's dangerous, but because there is ALWAYS a queue line because of the In N Out
@16:19 if you go into the Tesla app, go into the Charging section in your account page, and there you will see what your charging session costs were.
Cool video!
Btw, 16:16 you could use the stats section of the Tesla app to see how many kWh you charged (and the total in $). And the total saved if with gas.
Time to move up to a long range 350 mile car.
Bigger battery, faster charging, way more flexibility.
And your car has appreciated, so not that big an outlay.
I like the fact your sister is a copy of you - and standing behind you :)
Nice video!
That short range model is no joke! Did a 400ish mile 7+ hour drive yesterday I'm my 2018 Long Range and had to stop only once about halfway for just long enough to hit the restroom and eat a sandwich at Subway, and then charged at our destination.
What you for got to add to your cost is your time. For example If you make $50/hr * 3.5 = $175 additional dollars. Time is $$$ too.
A Tesla road trip is something I definitely need to do at some point
what was your road speed ? that can affect your range when you're pegging 70 and up too... part of the reason they have so many stops, is to reduce the total charging time - they don't charge you up to 100% - because the last roughly 15-20% your charging rate slows down - you're better off spending that time on the road moving and do another shorter stop to charge partially again...
I imagine if you stayed at the respective superchargers longer to charge to a higher percentage, I believe you’d make less stops! I’ve spent 30 min at a supercharger before to reach 90%
Hi! Is it better to do a lot of small short stopts to supercharge the car or is it better to do a mayor big stop to fully charge? Would there be a difference?
just to the point where the charging speed is dropping, then you have to go. may always from 5% to may 80%. drive fast, charge fast. some (short) stopps are skippable
I do a mix of both depending on other factors like bio-break, snacks or a meal - especially if I'm driving alone. The general strategy, like some have pointed out, is to charge up to 80%, then continue. More frequent but shorter stops is the most time efficient approach overall. However, I have started just setting the max to 100% in case I get stuck waiting in line or need longer for various reasons. This gives me the option to charge more if I'm tied up anyway. I have found the navigation tends to be a bit conservative, so I will sometimes look for a further out stop - especially if it is a V3 instead of settling for a V2 recommended by the system.
@@JasonTaylor-po5xc def set to 100% that’s smart.
Excellent review trip !!! So long, but it was funny, thanks for sharing
This was actually great as it showed me that an electric car is not even close. Just last week I drove from Las Vegas to Napa in a gas powered car with driver assist and back. For the week trip I spend $220 dollars in gas which is arguably more than electric, but here is the thing that nobody is talking about.
1) Many of the chargers are on the side of the road where there is nothing. Me as a male, I think I would be OK to charge there at night, but my wife would be scared shit. On a gas station there are ALWAYS people and you don't have to be scared and it takes you 5 minutes max.
2) The even more important thing is the cost in the future. With gas, you have some sort of competition to choose from and if you do not like the prices at your current location, you might get better ones 50 miles down the road. In pretty much every state, we have ONE exclusive energy provider. For California, this is PG&E. They can and will dictate the prices in the future and there is no way you can get around it. Even worse, with power outages especially in CA, how would you charge your car?
3) When you said that your 3 year old car already has 20% less range compared to new. I am sure that the Audi A4 you compared it with has the same range if 1 or 5 years old.
Don't get me wrong, I love electric cars, but telling people "It is great to have all these stops" is strange. The missing infrastructure and the fact that the US would not be able to charge all cars if everyone would have one, adds to the fact that for now, this is a nice to have first world gimmick.
She is using the "estimated" range display that changes all the time based on driving habits to compare what the car showed when new to now. Most actual tests show Tesla batteries degrade about 8% at 100,000 miles and then pretty much stay around that level. I own a model 3 and I do agree with your other points. Where they really shine is daily driving while charging at home. Roadtrips although I have done a couple are for ICE vehicles.
Thank you for sharing this. So now I know what it would like to be, driving with my Model 3 (SR) e.g. from Hamburg (Germany) to Naples (Italy) for holiday season, which has the same distance :-)
Supercharging looks very easy.....Tesla has done an amazing job
Part of the issue with the Tesla is it doesn’t have a Guess O Meter. The range numbers you are quoting are just the battery % vs the EPA range rating. It doesn’t take into account how you have been driving. The trip computer does and that’s why it tells you to stop more often. Your speed and the grade of the road will change how much range you can actually get.
And finally your comparison vehicle would not get its EPA range climbing the mountains to Mt Shasta. So it’s not a true comparison.
This was one of the few product endorsements I've found useful/tried out in awhile. Thanks
Definitely need to use overnight charging at hotels - saves you time and money. A large reason for so many stops is due to the elevation changes over the route.
Sounds like the planner wasn't very good. 11 stops for 1200 miles along a route heavily covered with chargers is really inefficient. Looks like stopping with 40% still in the battery.
I don’t mind the stops during road trips I like stopping after driving none stop to stretch take in the scenery or even go to the bathroom
Really enjoyed your Tesla Road Trip. I do have a couple of comments regarding the cost of the trip. According to Tesla the cost of electricity per kwh is $.28/kwh and it would take 34 kWh to go 100 miles. Meaning your trip cost closer to $115.
EV's "fuel costs" are getting a hidden subsidy. They don't pay state and federal excise gas taxes even though they use the same roads ( let's leave out that debate for another time). So to compare the Tesla's "fuel cost" to an ICE car that gets 30-33/mpg with an average cost of $6/gal and then subtract the excise taxes, the 1200 mile trip would cost appx. $180. So while the Tesla has the distinct "fuel cost" advantage over an ICE car today, consider last year at this time gas was half the price. Then the "fuel cost" between the two type of cars would be comparable. Don't get me wrong EV cars are the future but we need to be realistic about the costs involved.
Many states now have an EV fee to make up for the loss of gas taxes. I’m in Alabama and it’s a $200 fee per year even though I roughly only paid $65 in gas taxes when I had my gas car.
I’m never switching to EV, they’ll have to pry my gas car out of my bloody hands
It amazes me how dishonest people have to be with the math and science to even come close to making a case for ICE over electrc on cost or environmental impact. Sad.
@@FitzieJJ Your comment is queer in that I took no sides one ether technology other than saying, "...EV cars are the future...".Your complaint comes without any specifics. Do they research and do the math.
@@MrOso36 EPA rating for her car is 25.7 KWh per 100 miles, not 34. In her video she said charging at all stations but one was $.24 per KWh, not $.28. Pretending gas tax doesn't exist won't make it go away when people fill their tank.
I don't see a single honest # in your "comparison".
How's that for reasearch and math?
Great video. I drove my M3 from LA to Oregon coast Florence Oregon to be exact. Best drive of my life. I had such a blast.
My biggest hate of Tesla... the got damn lack of turbo charging stations or the limited charges. Not enough stations with the maximum charge options.
a 500 mile road trip is 2 fuel ups, assuming I start with a full tank- ROUND TRIP......
Drive to destination(500 miles) Fillup to explore the town. Then fillup and drive 500 miles home. I will stick with my VW TDIs but I do know some folks require or atleast enjoy frequent stops.
That is a lot of stops. But hey, if you don’t mind 🤷♂️ charge on. Too bad no Bucee's.
if you login onto your Tesla app, click on your avatar at top right. Under Account, then Charging, you can find your entire History of charging and each sessions' cost with # of kWh @ what price/kWh. You can also find the Invoice for each charging session so you can add them up for your business deductions!!! Your welcome! Luv your videos!!!!
Great vid.. enjoyed watching all the places you drove through and reminiscing about my many motorcycle and car trips Seattle to LA
I have a Model 3 Long Range (M3LR) but i would not approach the trip much differently. I usually want to stop every two hours or so on a long trip.
Williams is bomb. Louis Cairos is a staple for Colusa county peps. And granzellas pizza is fab. Did y’all go to the Olive Pit in Corning? Yummo. Next time.
Love Kettleman stop, it's such a wonderful location plus there is a larger shopping center a couple blocks away with some amazing candy treats. The Corning Starbucks right there had a wonderful Halloween décor a couple years ago. Super impressive for sure!
Wow grew up in Redding, glad you got to see my old hood. Miss skiing at Shasta :) 😀👍🏾
When you charge faster, you "cook" the battery and shorten its over all use full life. They are also expensive to replace.
if yer smart u should trade it in n get a leaf saving half the cost n charging it 4 free at all the chevy n nissan dealer ships 4 a true savings ,js.
Ms Shelby Church is here once again
I LOVE your Arizona Sweatshirt. I’m a huge Arizona Wildcats basketball fan!! Great video. I grew up in Sacramento, Ca. It is so pretty driving in Northern California.
The fuel (electricity) cost is for sure cheaper than doing a road trip in a gas car, but when you add up the cost of hotels, food, plane tickets, would it have been cheaper to just ship the car? Palm Springs to Seattle has to be ~$600 on a car carrier.
Yeah so if you have the long range model you won't be charging as much. Also try to pick a V3 charger if possible (I know most are still V2)
It’s cool how it makes you stop and explore places you normally would not.
Hey, try a review of JSX. The flights look better than I thought.
In comparison, if you were driving a gas car, how many stops/time spent stopping would that have been? Just doing some quick math on my own car I’d only have to stop 3 times for gas for a 1200 mile road trip.
Exactly my point. And you get there a whole day sooner. That drive is only 12 hours. I drove from Phx to Seattle and it only took us 24 hours of drive time and just under 48 hours to get there.
@@MrsMuffin11 exactly. Like I’m sure you’d stop an extra time or two for food/bathroom breaks in addition to getting gas but it would be nowhere near the amount of times they stopped just to charge. I’m also curious how much out of the way it is to get to Tesla chargers compared to gas stations that are always right on the highway.
She said that miles for an ICE car would have been 1,000 miles. Audi A4 on a full tank of fuel can get little over 500 miles. If you leave with a full tank, you'll have to stop only once for fuel.
I have an A5 Sportback and can get 40mpg doing 70mph with a 14.5 gallon tank, easy over 500 miles.
@@_Mario_PL_ The Audi would not have gone 500 miles per tank on that particular trip. You are comparing flat highway driving an A4 to driving the Tesla through mountains.
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That’s true but it’s not how quick you get there that counts it’s the fact that you can get there on an electric vehicle and pay little to nothing to get there. I have unlimited supercharging because I have an older model Tesla. I recently took a trip from Florida all the way to Yellowstone National Park. The round-trip was free for me. If I would’ve been driving a regular vehicle it would’ve cost me over $1500 in fuel round-trip. Of Course it did take me an extra 4 1/2 hours to get there, but I will always trade 4 1/2 hours to save $1500 any day. Also as mentioned earlier most people are gonna stop to stretch their legs multiple times and get food in a regular car as well so you’re really only wasting half the stops. If you coordinate your stops when you would normally eat and go to the bathroom it’s really not that bad, also the Tesla just plays it safe, you could actually skip some of those stops and go directly to the next stop and be good to go. You just have to get more comfortable with what the car can actually do but once you get past the range anxiety issues it’s a no-brainer.
wow so many stops for charging better to have a long range Tesla i'm thinking . north Cal look so lovely