you HAVE to try the throwing knives, I can't get enough of it, slightly less powerfull than the double barrels, but no reloading about the invisibility, it looks amazing, I see everyone use it, but I can't get away from the grappeling hook, I've tried the dash, because everyone said it was better than the hook, but I really feel stranded, and I feel like it is gonna be even worth with invisibility, do you have the "selling pitch" to change my mind?
@@kc9928 yeah, you surprise people beacause you are invisible, but you also surprise people when you fall out the sky, and the mobility is in my opinion the best, eventhough it has a cooldown
@@Hibbou. thing is the grapple cant be re-activated over and over for that advantage, the invis lasts most of a fight if allocated correctly. As soon as you grapple you are dead
Use invisibility when you’re either out in the open with no cover or when you’re stalking someone. If you’re running through a building or behind cover then turn it off so that you always have some on reserve and allow it to recharge. You want that reserve for emergency situations where you need to get away. When running away you’ll need to break line of site while your invisible. Turn a corner and the chaser won’t know what direction you took. I use goo grenades and fire for this. Fire to shut down paths and goo to provide cover for getaway or combine them to extend the fire spread
Yeah but again for most people like he said it will still be easier with M M H, for high level L M H is probably better most the time but the average joe definitely not, by the way i am still gonna play L 😅
Completely depends on the context of skill level. If all players are equally skilled, MMH is better than LMH. But if that light player is better on average, then i would agree with you.
and what evidence do you have for these objective statements you're making? none. if all equal skill levels, MMH will be missing glitch nades, which if used correctly, will change the entire dynamic of their team. you can't sit here and say this comp is better than that comp without more context. if you want to say AT LOW SKILL LEVELS that MMH is better, then sure. but if all players are equal talent, and that talent level is high? yea right dude. you're flat out wrong.@@RawvTalent
Ngl light is not even that weak right now. The problem is that gas torrent and traps are too strong right now, so a lot of time we die as collateral for random things that weren’t even meant to kill us. I saw videos of heavies dying to gas while being 1/4 of their hp. That doesn’t sound like a lot but a heavy has more hip than a light by a large margin. Mere gas and torrets and light will be balanced properly.
light is very weak. you have to be a very good aimer and have very good movement with smart fighting to fight any decent medium player or trash heavy player.
People saying light is weak are definitely having a skill issue moment. Hit and run tactics on unsuspecting foes with OP weapons and equipment while also ZOOMING across the map carrying the cube wherever it needs to go. The ONLY problem with light isn’t even a light problem so much as gas grenades and some other weaponry being in desperate need of a nerf
@@chromie6571 "Light is weak and very op " yet in a second sentence you say it's weak and that other things need nerfs? Light is weak and I can guarantee you you will never match my level of skill in any shooter game. The fact that light players have to heavily outskill and heavily outplay every single fight to win against a medium and heavy is ridiculous. Stunning mediums from behind and strafing well just for them to hit 4 bullets and you die or a heavy to turn around and rpg u (and miss the rpg) just for the fatass splash to kill u is definitely a skill issue moment and not a balancing error.
I have only played light my entire time playing this game and I love it! For some reason my failure to master game sense in previous fps games applies perfectly to this game, combjned with my love for movement and fast paced gameplay with low ttk and im going crazy lol. These tips can and will help me in my future tournys 😊
I have learned, and I’m starting to get really good at is if you have to go against a heavy/ medium player you need to hit them from behind or on the side and quickly reposition and hit them again. If you aren’t in a position to do that then avoid the fight altogether
Speaking of weapons, pistol has a higher ttk and is more consistent than mp5 it just doesn't have a sight so you should include it. Also dagger is not really a melee weapon as it is all aroud being sneaky with cloak and knowing to when abuse the chaos of the battle or the focus of your opponents on cashout, it also recently got buffed and it performs really well if you really know how to use it and dont just run up to enemy and try to brainlessy backstab or spam light attacks
😆 a top player saying a class is unsable and is so hard to use its bassically not worth it and people told ne it was too early to start saying the game has problems but id say i was right
The shotgun is better if you hit your shots, but if you miss, the mp5, m11, lh1 are all probably better. I think you're seriously underestimating the m11, v9s, and LH1. they're all clearly a tier below, but in the right hands they are every bit as good. they're just harder to use (except the m11, its just a hipfire beast)
Also i'm not so sure about your advice for people who can't aim to use the shotgun. I'm a GM in Voltaic aim training community, and i actually find the shotty much harder to use. If you miss 1 shot, its extremely punishing with the shotgun. Extremely. That's why I think beginners should stick to M11 or MP5. I am not saying the shotgun is hard to use by any means, its just not the defacto easier option. Really depends on playstyle and what you're used to. Most people prefer and are used to tracking weapons...
Tip:dont fucking do it Turret op will shred especially if they have double m with turret Just genuinely cant do anything until your team clears the turrets so its a 2v3 till the turrets are gone
Completely disagree that Cloak is the best, anyone who pays attention can tell where you are with the loud audio cues. Using the vanish grenade doesn’t create any audio cues besides the explosion and makes you completely invisible. In combination with the Dash, this gives you so much more freedom to enter and exit engagements.
Cloak is definitely the best. The dashes are too long cd, and too easy to flick to, invis lets you scout more aggressively and weave in and out of fights because you’re harder to track especially through buildings and multiple elevations. It also lets you get good flanks off in chaotic team fights where you would be spotted otherwise. Taking head on engagements as light with any class besides light is an L if their aim is good. Using cloak to get off angles in fights or set up good spots for glitch/grenade combos is top tier. If you want to just smash people in duels play medium and rock the AK
Audio cues… WHERE. Bro maybe when nobody is shootings heavies make no noise when there is even one person shooting . This games audio is among the worst I’ve ever used and I have a very high end audiophile setup. Directional queue are almost non existent
Can’t tell you how many times fellow lights tried to cloak up on me and I just turn around and smack em. Personally I get way more utility out of the grappling hook. Definitely looking forward to experimenting with melee weapons and the dash ability
I just started playing 2 days ago and love it. I run cloak and running into places, seeing where people are set up, then getting behind and killing someone before recloaking is so fun. While you can’t take much damage, as long as you choose your fights and use cover, you will do good.
Dude this vid made me feel so much better though lol. I thought it was just me getting absolutely hammered when I tried light. I was like I know I’m not this bad at the damn game
I would disagree that stealth is the only viable ability to use, I've gotten lots of success in high plat low diamond with the dash and grappling hook. Especially the dash it is super powerful for chipping opponents from cover and repositioning immediately, I've gotten out of so many situations where I dash to a location inaccessible to most people and instantly create an off-angle with very little downtime
@EternalChrisX Great video. Some of the tips are useful to all classes. I was wondering if you could make a general video on: Positioning; how to be useful; how to spot good locations; transitioning; getting and relaying information etc.? I find that a lot of guides are very specific, and that's great when you already have the basics down, but I find that myself and many teammates don't understand where to be, what to do, when to do it - the "git gud" package, but without the "better aim", cause that's just obvious.
I think pistol is on a similiar level as mp5. It has almost the same time to kill but has twice the bullet damage, with only 10 bullets less in the mag, so you can do more with just one magazine. Its a bit worse on distance, so its more situational. Shotgun on the other hand is kind of a hit and run with no possibilty of multikills so its not bettter in every scenario. So basically I think that v9s belongs to those "playable" light weapons. Open for discussion.
@@blaize7865 They nerfed it but honestly im loving it. Im not hitting every shot , but the engagements where i hit everything makes it feel like the best weapon in that moment.
As a Chris who also used his name in his gamertag “MrMasterChris”, I wanted to state how much I already love this community along with the game. I’ve definitely went up against you because I remember stating there’s only one true Chris! 😂
I think light health is 2 low getting 1 shot by multiple things sucks plus let’s say you come into a honest 1v1 no cloak no ability and your fighting a medium and you both land all your shots you are dead no chance of beating them I’m not saying you need 250 hp but at least 200 not to mention I just avoid heavy unless they are 1 weak or 2 running meele
i dont know about others but light + invisibility + uzi + stun gun and medium + gas mine + ak + frag works best form me if i cant win a fight then i just throw a gas mine and take them offgaurd
I don't know what happened to light class during the beta but I'm a fucking monster on light. Definitely don't think they are underpowered. Cloaking is ridiculously strong
Hi! Thanks for the amazing content! Can you, please, tell us on what sensitivity you are playing? I am an immortal Valorant player and I am kinda used to a lower sense. Trying to figure out the optimal one in here,
hey man I started playing the finals not that long ago and i find it to be a fun game, I wanted to know how to get fp so I can move up the ranks, how would I go about doing that?
I have a lot of success using the clock and shotty with a hit and run style. Float around the skirts of a fight and dive in and dump both shots and keep running even if you don’t get the kill on your target. You dip around a corner and cloak and come right back and hit them again. If you play like a little annoying mosquito then they have to keep paying attention to you which makes them worst off in skirmishes or you get a free double barrel blast into their backs.
Just remember that for every heavy that blasted you with an RPG without thinking, you effecitively do the same mental damage by stun gunning someone for from a mile away and making them watch you kill them.
If you want a tip from a new player only playing light, stick to cover, play corners, if you have it, cloak and get behind someone, then of course, get out of there after 1 kill and regroup. It is great for picking off alone enemy’s or sowing chaos. I suggest the pistol for this method.
you HAVE to try the throwing knives, I can't get enough of it, slightly less powerfull than the double barrels, but no reloading
about the invisibility, it looks amazing, I see everyone use it, but I can't get away from the grappeling hook, I've tried the dash, because everyone said it was better than the hook, but I really feel stranded, and I feel like it is gonna be even worth with invisibility, do you have the "selling pitch" to change my mind?
im with you, I love grapple and knives
This entire video was a selling pitch
@@kc9928 yeah, you surprise people beacause you are invisible, but you also surprise people when you fall out the sky, and the mobility is in my opinion the best, eventhough it has a cooldown
@@Hibbou. thing is the grapple cant be re-activated over and over for that advantage, the invis lasts most of a fight if allocated correctly. As soon as you grapple you are dead
Use invisibility when you’re either out in the open with no cover or when you’re stalking someone. If you’re running through a building or behind cover then turn it off so that you always have some on reserve and allow it to recharge. You want that reserve for emergency situations where you need to get away. When running away you’ll need to break line of site while your invisible. Turn a corner and the chaser won’t know what direction you took. I use goo grenades and fire for this. Fire to shut down paths and goo to provide cover for getaway or combine them to extend the fire spread
I feel like L M H is better than double M H, simply due to glitchnades having insane potential in a coordinated team
Yeah but again for most people like he said it will still be easier with M M H, for high level L M H is probably better most the time but the average joe definitely not, by the way i am still gonna play L 😅
Completely depends on the context of skill level. If all players are equally skilled, MMH is better than LMH. But if that light player is better on average, then i would agree with you.
@@RawvTalent wdym by "if all players are equally skilled", just inur team or across all teams?
Only if the light is competent, and not just at killing people.
and what evidence do you have for these objective statements you're making? none. if all equal skill levels, MMH will be missing glitch nades, which if used correctly, will change the entire dynamic of their team. you can't sit here and say this comp is better than that comp without more context. if you want to say AT LOW SKILL LEVELS that MMH is better, then sure. but if all players are equal talent, and that talent level is high? yea right dude. you're flat out wrong.@@RawvTalent
Ngl light is not even that weak right now. The problem is that gas torrent and traps are too strong right now, so a lot of time we die as collateral for random things that weren’t even meant to kill us. I saw videos of heavies dying to gas while being 1/4 of their hp. That doesn’t sound like a lot but a heavy has more hip than a light by a large margin. Mere gas and torrets and light will be balanced properly.
light is very weak. you have to be a very good aimer and have very good movement with smart fighting to fight any decent medium player or trash heavy player.
a medium heals the same as the gas damages
People saying light is weak are definitely having a skill issue moment. Hit and run tactics on unsuspecting foes with OP weapons and equipment while also ZOOMING across the map carrying the cube wherever it needs to go. The ONLY problem with light isn’t even a light problem so much as gas grenades and some other weaponry being in desperate need of a nerf
@@chromie6571 "Light is weak and very op " yet in a second sentence you say it's weak and that other things need nerfs? Light is weak and I can guarantee you you will never match my level of skill in any shooter game. The fact that light players have to heavily outskill and heavily outplay every single fight to win against a medium and heavy is ridiculous. Stunning mediums from behind and strafing well just for them to hit 4 bullets and you die or a heavy to turn around and rpg u (and miss the rpg) just for the fatass splash to kill u is definitely a skill issue moment and not a balancing error.
I have only played light my entire time playing this game and I love it! For some reason my failure to master game sense in previous fps games applies perfectly to this game, combjned with my love for movement and fast paced gameplay with low ttk and im going crazy lol. These tips can and will help me in my future tournys 😊
Very useful guide that opened my eyes. I thought that I could main light with dash but it seems like it's sadly not viable in the current meta.
thats not true bruh,
Light with dash is what I main. It’s definitely viable and it’s what I play best with
Do what you think is most fun, not what’s meta.
If you’re a meta slave you’ll never have fun. Just play what you like and master it, better player will always win regardless of loadout
You guys are right, fun should be the most important thing. Thanks fellas!
I just want revolver on the light class
I have learned, and I’m starting to get really good at is if you have to go against a heavy/ medium player you need to hit them from behind or on the side and quickly reposition and hit them again. If you aren’t in a position to do that then avoid the fight altogether
Speaking of weapons, pistol has a higher ttk and is more consistent than mp5 it just doesn't have a sight so you should include it. Also dagger is not really a melee weapon as it is all aroud being sneaky with cloak and knowing to when abuse the chaos of the battle or the focus of your opponents on cashout, it also recently got buffed and it performs really well if you really know how to use it and dont just run up to enemy and try to brainlessy backstab or spam light attacks
Wait fr? If so, holy hell haha I've been wondering if that's really the case. I've been out gunned by the stupid pistol while running the M11/XP 🙄
sword is pretty dope with dash if you know how to flank and pick your battles i got some pretty nasty squad wipes
Me who shredded a world tour with 2 lights (teammate left) 👁️👄👁️
thanks for the ego boost at the beginning there, I am infact an extraordinary player who gets mediocre results
😆 a top player saying a class is unsable and is so hard to use its bassically not worth it and people told ne it was too early to start saying the game has problems but id say i was right
Even in Beta, Light was so bad. Starting weapon was bad, shotgun was so fucking bad, mobility was bad, HP really bad
The shotgun is better if you hit your shots, but if you miss, the mp5, m11, lh1 are all probably better. I think you're seriously underestimating the m11, v9s, and LH1. they're all clearly a tier below, but in the right hands they are every bit as good. they're just harder to use (except the m11, its just a hipfire beast)
Also i'm not so sure about your advice for people who can't aim to use the shotgun. I'm a GM in Voltaic aim training community, and i actually find the shotty much harder to use. If you miss 1 shot, its extremely punishing with the shotgun. Extremely. That's why I think beginners should stick to M11 or MP5. I am not saying the shotgun is hard to use by any means, its just not the defacto easier option. Really depends on playstyle and what you're used to. Most people prefer and are used to tracking weapons...
If you can hit headshots the lh1 is amazing.
i feel like most of this video is you just complaining about how overpower heavy is rn am i wrong?
Tip:dont fucking do it
Turret op will shred especially if they have double m with turret
Just genuinely cant do anything until your team clears the turrets so its a 2v3 till the turrets are gone
Very good guide here. I like the fact that you share philosophy rather than technical tips on gameplay.
Thank you for the guides bro great videos
I've never heard anyone cry more than this.
Completely disagree that Cloak is the best, anyone who pays attention can tell where you are with the loud audio cues. Using the vanish grenade doesn’t create any audio cues besides the explosion and makes you completely invisible. In combination with the Dash, this gives you so much more freedom to enter and exit engagements.
factss, used this today n got 4 dubs in a row running L L H
Dash+vanish grenade with the shotgun is amazing
Cloak is definitely the best. The dashes are too long cd, and too easy to flick to, invis lets you scout more aggressively and weave in and out of fights because you’re harder to track especially through buildings and multiple elevations. It also lets you get good flanks off in chaotic team fights where you would be spotted otherwise. Taking head on engagements as light with any class besides light is an L if their aim is good. Using cloak to get off angles in fights or set up good spots for glitch/grenade combos is top tier. If you want to just smash people in duels play medium and rock the AK
Audio cues… WHERE. Bro maybe when nobody is shootings heavies make no noise when there is even one person shooting . This games audio is among the worst I’ve ever used and I have a very high end audiophile setup. Directional queue are almost non existent
Can’t tell you how many times fellow lights tried to cloak up on me and I just turn around and smack em. Personally I get way more utility out of the grappling hook. Definitely looking forward to experimenting with melee weapons and the dash ability
Where my tf2 scout players at?
shotgun still good for light?
I prefer gas nade glitch nade and c4
I just started playing 2 days ago and love it. I run cloak and running into places, seeing where people are set up, then getting behind and killing someone before recloaking is so fun. While you can’t take much damage, as long as you choose your fights and use cover, you will do good.
Dude this vid made me feel so much better though lol. I thought it was just me getting absolutely hammered when I tried light. I was like I know I’m not this bad at the damn game
Wheres this discord link?
2nd view
But my shank is fun :(
Time to go LIGHT em' up! 🔥🔥🔥
Buff lights pls
I would disagree that stealth is the only viable ability to use, I've gotten lots of success in high plat low diamond with the dash and grappling hook. Especially the dash it is super powerful for chipping opponents from cover and repositioning immediately, I've gotten out of so many situations where I dash to a location inaccessible to most people and instantly create an off-angle with very little downtime
Light players should be cloak scouting, dealing burst damage and dip. Not like you cant play it but as in the vid, its high risk high reward.
not invisibility, its definitely more cloak. in most situations u can see a rainbow shimmer on a light running around.
you are invisible when you hold still
@EternalChrisX
Great video. Some of the tips are useful to all classes. I was wondering if you could make a general video on: Positioning; how to be useful; how to spot good locations; transitioning; getting and relaying information etc.? I find that a lot of guides are very specific, and that's great when you already have the basics down, but I find that myself and many teammates don't understand where to be, what to do, when to do it - the "git gud" package, but without the "better aim", cause that's just obvious.
Shame because light is the most fun but is less effective the better players you face
I think pistol is on a similiar level as mp5. It has almost the same time to kill but has twice the bullet damage, with only 10 bullets less in the mag, so you can do more with just one magazine. Its a bit worse on distance, so its more situational. Shotgun on the other hand is kind of a hit and run with no possibilty of multikills so its not bettter in every scenario. So basically I think that v9s belongs to those "playable" light weapons. Open for discussion.
If you have the aim for it the lh1 is the best light weapon
@@blaize7865 They nerfed it but honestly im loving it. Im not hitting every shot , but the engagements where i hit everything makes it feel like the best weapon in that moment.
Imo m11 better than mp5 and the pistol dwarfs both
I use the sniper and grapple hook, with pryo and frag nades plus breach charge. It’s just so fun I don’t care what’s the best
ngl, i aint competetive, I play light because when you get a good fight its so clean
Nice vid. I do think the other classes are way easier to play but light is so fun when you're popping off
As a Chris who also used his name in his gamertag “MrMasterChris”, I wanted to state how much I already love this community along with the game. I’ve definitely went up against you because I remember stating there’s only one true Chris! 😂
All I heard in this is go invis and bait your team to die but they aren’t gonna die bc you are simply better
Love learning about this game and all its glory 💥
I think 90% of my deaths on light are rpg and mines lol
I think light health is 2 low getting 1 shot by multiple things sucks plus let’s say you come into a honest 1v1 no cloak no ability and your fighting a medium and you both land all your shots you are dead no chance of beating them I’m not saying you need 250 hp but at least 200 not to mention I just avoid heavy unless they are 1 weak or 2 running meele
Lights need to go up 25 hp and heavies need to come down 25 hp. So there's 75 hp between classes instead of 100
Light build really isn’t that bad chief 😂
first 15 seconds sum up what playing light is like pretty well
Light class is very fun and also easy to learn. I am dominating my lobbies with like 5 hours of light class 😂
i dont know about others but light + invisibility + uzi + stun gun and medium + gas mine + ak + frag works best form me if i cant win a fight then i just throw a gas mine and take them offgaurd
I don't know what happened to light class during the beta but I'm a fucking monster on light. Definitely don't think they are underpowered. Cloaking is ridiculously strong
In my experience, everyone is using light and heavy
Hi! Thanks for the amazing content! Can you, please, tell us on what sensitivity you are playing? I am an immortal Valorant player and I am kinda used to a lower sense. Trying to figure out the optimal one in here,
800 dpi anywhere from 30 to 45 in game is good
hey man I started playing the finals not that long ago and i find it to be a fun game, I wanted to know how to get fp so I can move up the ranks, how would I go about doing that?
Keep making your shit bro, i love your videos and you earned my subscription
No one plays ranked tournaments que time is unbearable
You have to make sure everyone your queing with has also unlocked them.. it will put you in infinite Que if they haven’t
I have a lot of success using the clock and shotty with a hit and run style. Float around the skirts of a fight and dive in and dump both shots and keep running even if you don’t get the kill on your target. You dip around a corner and cloak and come right back and hit them again. If you play like a little annoying mosquito then they have to keep paying attention to you which makes them worst off in skirmishes or you get a free double barrel blast into their backs.
Uninstall reject
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Best rogue?
WoW? @@RagingDamage
Just remember that for every heavy that blasted you with an RPG without thinking, you effecitively do the same mental damage by stun gunning someone for from a mile away and making them watch you kill them.
Light op
Is the LH1 a valuable weapon aswell?
It hits decently hard. But you lose 1v1s a lot if you can't hit your shots.
I can never do Active Camo again.
I have Ptsd from Teammates accidentally running me over in. .
well in every Halo lmao. Invisibility is cursed
Also apparently Aim assist counters invis HARD
lights should suffer
Wrong
They got the worst guns, worst health and are constantly 1 tap
Take your Sledgehammer and go plz
I like the light class, and I feel like I'm not too bad at it, but honestly I'll stick with medium for now until there is some kind of buff.
why? if you want to play light then play light?
@@mkvader1165 I don't want to work twice as hard to accomplish what a heavy or medium could achieve with less sweating.
@@NotNotnotNick you should play whatever class is fun cuz that is all that matters anyways, not about how much work you need.
If you want a tip from a new player only playing light, stick to cover, play corners, if you have it, cloak and get behind someone, then of course, get out of there after 1 kill and regroup. It is great for picking off alone enemy’s or sowing chaos. I suggest the pistol for this method.
Its not fun to die to someone who is worst than you and only won bc they picked a better class@mkvader1165
I run with the mini shot gun it makes chasing clips for my channel more fun