they didn't only ruin Anakins redemption, they've now ruined his conception; regardless of whether he was chosen one, sith'ari or whiny little bitch he didn't deserve any of it
@@advuhbwejmn Multiple insantces in there TV shows where they don't cause much harm, let-alone kill people. Kenobi Show; >Reva, stabbed as a child = Survives. >Grand Inquisitor, Stabbed = Survives >Reva (Again), Stabbed = Survives. Ashoka Show (Written by Feloni himself) >Sabine, Stabbed by lightsaber, had the laser-sword caressed in her belly for about 5 seconds = Survived.
I'll have to give them thanks for that, bitter though it may be. The last few years of Western big-budget entertainment will long stand as a body of objective lessons in how not to write, direct or produce good media.
The can't even show creativity with their propaganda. It wasn't Indiana Jones that was good. He's a miserable old man. A woman was better It isn't Luke that is the hero. He's a miserable old man. A woman is better. Dr Who was originally a woman not a man. The male version is an idiot. Unless he is gay. And of course, they can't even show originality with their response to fan backlash
The Sith would sow conflict, groom the young and vunerable and turn them against eachother, like what Disney has done to the fan base and franchise. Instilling guilt and doubt in fan's mind, convince them that the force is female, some fans fall and force others in this line of thought, however, many others resist this doubious change in lore. Afterall, the force should not hold bias as it always seeks balance in all things.
Reminds me of the Simpsons ep 2x15 Oh Brother, Where Art Thou What does this monstrosity (Homers car he helped design) cost? Jerry, what's the sticker price? $82,000! This monstrosity costs $82,000? ($180M)
“Geek culture was gate keeping girls out.” No, I am pretty sure most guys who are geeks growing up the moment they saw a girl. The only thing they thought was “boobs!” They didn’t want to get rid of them they wanted more of them.
Right? I was the only girl at a Smash Bros competition way back in the day. And while I did get the initial looks of doubt for using Ice Climbers (and Peach and Pichu in the 'just for fun while waiting' matches), once they saw I could hold my own, they were cheering me on and were literally _begging_ me to participate every year after. XD
Yeah, we being horny and not knowing how vile some women can get was part of our downfall. The situation most likely worsened after _The Big Bang_ theory made nerd culture popular.
This was my experience. Every geek guy I ever talked to was THRILLED to include me if I asked. I don't know where this gatekeeping myth came from. Maybe the girls that claim it were being jerks?
Lightsabers lore wise are really really deadly the fact anyone could get stabbed by one and walk it off is mind blowingly stupid and lazy writing. It's super heated plasma that melt through solid metals and a person in the acolyte just walks it off but dies to a fucking fruit knife essentially is so dumb....
Apparently, being struck by contained super-heated plasma in the real world would vaporize all the blood in a human body and cause it to explode violently.
@@emberfist8347 Lightsabers consisted of a plasma blade, powered by a kyber crystal, that was emitted from a usually metal hilt and could be shut off at will. - Wookiepedia
BUT remember plot armor. IF the character is female and powerful she can't be hurt by it. Just a light burn wound. Get the bacta gel! ... Yeah. They broken that too.
The people who push moral relativism are pretty sure of where they sit on the objective Good vs Evil spectrum and that's why they hate it. Understand that the lesser evil is still evil.
I think they push moral relativism because they are nihilistic and apathetic. But they feel more comfortable removing the mask now. I wouldn't attribute any growth to it
The Timothy Zahn novels would have made everyone happy. The last trilogy focusing on Leia and rebuilding the republic with Luke going a mission and side quest would have been great. Luke and Leia lightsaber training scene would have been good too.
It's years too late for it unless they recast Han, Luke and Leia (something that I might be able to accept), but yes, absolutely. I wish that they had made those novels into movies 30 years ago. They should have done those instead of the prequels.
@@ChaoticYak1 In another 30 years, it could be normal to just feed those novels into an A.I., which then renders it as a movie using the appearances of the original actors - or whichever you want to see in the roles. That's the only hope one can have now for these franchises futures. Maybe earlier …
@@Cau_No Honestly, the one thing I hope comes out of all this AI stuff is something like the Star Trek holodeck where I could do exactly that. "Computer, make a movie out of Heir to the Empire. All original cast at appropriate ages." And then feed the descriptions for the other characters and get castings for those as well.
It would be be great if a(n honest) Star War trilogy was made about how Kennedy acquired and ruined the franchise. (It will never happen.) I can imagine the Darth Vader music playing as Kennedy walks down the stairs or seeing Rian Johnson pressing the buttons in the Death Star while it is aimed at the franchise (Star Wars).
Disney star wars is that creepy ex that still tries to text you in the middle of night and then rages at you because you don't want to see her anymore.
That one ex that still posts about her toxic relationship with you and how much you were a toxic abuser, despite the fact that it's been years and she used to cheat on you with her heroine dealet
When you see the Jedi, an order of Buddhist-style mystics cultivating inner peace to channel kinetic powers, trained to wield extremely dangerous weapons to battle overwhelming odds... whose ultimate downfall came specifically from growing too complacent and permissive of external civilian government, allying too much with them and "going native" among them... being interpreted by the writers of a Star Wars show as "they're just American cops enforcing laws to keep the oppressed down!"... you know they aren't competent enough to operate a pencil, let alone write a Jedi-Sith story.
Also it doesn't help when my mind also thought on how the matriarchal lesbian space witches are portrayed: very tribal, live in caves of an isolated area. By all intents and purposes they should be considered on the same level of a pre-warp civilization is from Star Trek. Yet they know what a Jedi is, and the Republic? They are living in caves with no modern tools around them, not even a damn knife. Why are they portraying the Rousseau view of 'man lived a better life when we were hunter-gathers, living in caves and be in constant fear of larger predators' world view? I already say "F Rousseau" due to him being one of the fathers of modern thought on equality (and the worst one); but are we unironically going to say living like cave people is a better lifestyle in media? During a time when people have comforts like AC during 100°+F weather. I thought I hated Rousseau, but I don't hate him and his philosophy enough.
Anakin Skywalker brought balance to the force through the original 6 episodes. The moralistic and authoritarian Jedi were the imbalance, even before Disney took the reigns.
@@justinwhite2725 By Lucas the Jedi were following the will of the Force. They sometimes failed, but they tried. There is only the Force and the Darkside is the corruption. In the end of the 6 episode saga there were 1 Jedi (Luke), a possible Jedi (Leia), one dying Jedi(Anakin) and hope for more Jedi. That was balance. The Force was in balance with Jedi as they follow it. Sith, by nature, want to usurp it and make it suffer.
The Jedi were moralistic authoritarians whose quelling of emotions left them separated from humanity. That's why the needed Anakin Skywalker (aka Darth Vader) to rebalance the force.
About 10,00 Jedi within a galaxy isn’t a lot. Most people would probably never see a Jedi. You would have a better chance of seeing a space marine in 40k in your lifetime.
There were roughly 1.3 million planets apart of the republic during the prequels. Not to mention out of those 10,000 Jedi it seemed like most of them just sat in Coruscant most of the time so if you didn't live in Coruscant you probably didn't run into one.
@@TheCrow938 We need a Jedi series like The Office set in the Jedi Temple, Dwight uses a lightsaber to make an ice sculpture, Force practice jokes, the fat Jedi in acolyte Kevin, Sol as the manage
The Jedi were ruined by a long tradition of social activists who worked very hard trying to justify the evil of the Sith. The last episode is a prime example, as Darth Gimpface just "wants to be left alone" to wave his sith flag without those damned normies...I mean Jedi...telling him to stop. Oh such a glorious parable for the "modern audience" that doesn't exist. Yes, we're evil but just leave us be! Let us be evil and do evil things because...well you have to.
That’s not the issue with this story. When the book Darth Plagueis and Darth Bane came out with the same Sith main character goals, no one bitched about it like you are right now. The Acolyte isn’t s good show, but this is NOT the reason it’s bad. What else do you expect from a dark-side centric story?
@@leurunner4764 Acolyte is just copying the old republic comics. The ones about Zayne Carrick, where a bunch of arrogant masters who were conceited to the point where they did not see their own crimes got destroyed by a padawn who was unworthy of becoming a knight.
Evil can't create something new and respected franchise and characters and past and lore. They only ruin and corrupt and disrespect franchise and characters and past and lore.
@@hida99ash I'm not ventzxX but The Big Bang Theory invited people who look down on geek culture into geek culture. To reword it, The Big Bang Theory brought people into franchises that these people didn't respect or even like... Imagine if abattoirs employed and were controlled by self-righteous vegetarians who believed that eating meat was immoral. Or giving people who believed that violence was ALWAYS wrong, power over the sport known as "boxing." Those are parallel to what The Big Bang Theory did. Of course, The Big Bang Theory wasn't the only show that did this but it certainly was the show that did so the most. If it wasn't for The Big Bang Theory these "Cool Nerds" wouldn't have touched a quarter of what they have infected. (Also when one doesn't care about a franchise, one doesn't care when that franchise becomes worse, hence all the attempts to warp the original franchises... "For the Greater Good." We can look at franchises like "Dr Who," "Star Wars" etc.)
I do find it interesting that they keep saying that women weren't allowed to like Star Wars or whatever. I never had a single person come up to me and say, "I'm sorry. You're not allowed to purchase those Star Wars novels. Please put them back on the shelf for a man to buy." I watched the movies. I read the books. Heck, my friend and I stood in line at the theater for the The Phantom Menace and we were not the only women in line. Nor were we told we shouldn't be there. I'm not sure where these people are finding that they're kept out of Star Wars, but I sure haven't ever experienced even a hint of that.
the only thing that contributed to this myth, was the way geeks were seen, as Guys who could not interact with women wo being cringe. That balooned to the stuff we see today, plus the fact the just wrote bad chacters and instead of acepting it, they defended it the worst way possible.
I don’t understand how “they” think this is good for Disney? Surely? SURELY making something of quality will do them good in the long run, you want to create a legacy. No one will remember this I haven’t even watched acolyte and never will
When Bob Iger and his cronies have been removed we might find out how many franchises they bought made a profit. Me? I doubt any of them made a profit. Not Star Wars, not Marvel, not the Muppet show or anything else they (Iger) bought. P.S. Yes, some Marvel movies were successful, even very successful, but that might be negated by the losses on all the shows on Disney+.
At this point, Star Wars is all about ruining Star Wars.... But yeah, the Acolyte and The Last Jedi did destroyed the mysticism that was the Jedi, basically space monks.
That's the funniest yet saddest thing. OT and PT Jedi were space oriental martial artists with inner peace and channeling energy and focus, complete with a not-Shaolin temple. And as if to further underline this, PT Jedi's demise came from growing too lax and going native in the Republic by allying with them directly, while forgetting what their tenets truly stood for and losing themselves to pride. Meanwhile Disney Wars Jedi are just a space police force with magic training.
@@cattrucker8257 Lucas-Jedi = Allegories for enlightened beings(Djed-eye) and masters of themselves. Disney Jedi = Depressed losers born with mutant space powers that die if they use them too much.
@@IndyDefense Are you serious? Jedi are supposed to be enlightened beings(Djed-eye). They are masters of themselves. Luke could not have been a Jedi AND a depressed loser. That would be traveling down the dark path. But the writer also confused the dark and the light path by putting Rey on the easy path and Kylo being disciplined for his entire life. This is the inverse of what Yoda said in ESB. Rey would have been powerless without any training due to the prior-established lore. They didn't care and made Rey a master of mystical techniques by "being born that way." The same thing with Broom Boy just using telekinesis at the end. Just born with ability=privileged. It's some "participation-trophy"-version of the force where nothing is earned. Djed-eye are not a Lucas concept. Disney just wanted to make Jedi into losers so they pretend to have gotten things confused. See, one can't become a Jedi "master" and then fall into depression. They had to change what a jedi was in order to portray emotional losers who could be your neighbor.
@@Treblaine the Jedi were always a highly problematic order. Part of the story of Return of the Jedi back in 1983 was Luke dismantling the ideologies of the Jedi Order because they were wrong
@@Treblaine nope. Its all there in Return of the Jedi. Clearly you missed the point of Luke's character. I suggest watching again and paying attention. Stop trying to blame Disney for things that were already in effect under George Lucas
Interesting that in the Clownfish videos I watch about the Acolyte, many of the recommended videos have female TH-camrs who also criticize the show, and Star Wars, yet it's only "Guys in ball caps."
Yes and no, as Velma's two seasons were actually one season they cut in half that had already been fully ordered. They had to at least try to recoup the costs by running the rest despite the critical response.
@@BertoxolusThePuzzled they exactly know that it wasn't watched. They should have stopped. So regardless what you have said. They still aired it. Spending more money on marketing the 'Rest of season 1'. It's still not being watched
The Jedi's been ruined since Disney owned the IP to "Star Wars" & allowing KK is push her "The Force is Female" agenda on it. Question, what took Forbes- & other news sources so long to noticed that- rather than attacking the OG fans for noticing it from the get-go?
The fans have spoken and the stats are accurate. Disney Star Wars is garbage and people don't care what the mainstream media and shills have to say people are not buying it 🤷
It only "ruins" the Jedi if you accept that anything Disney has done is legitimately Star Wars. Personally I dont recognize a damn thing theyve done as being Star Wars. Star Wars ain't dead... it just finished in '83!
Ok, just because the Jedi didn't align with your head canon, doesn't make them boring. I'm so sick and tired of this "prequels do something that doesn't align with my head canon makes them bad" argument. It's nothing but whinging and carries no substance as it's just fans throwing a temper tantrum. Please stop making these arguments and offer constructive criticism. But other than that, I agree with your take on the article.
i feel the same way on how people regard Return of the Jedi just becuz of the ewoks they focus on the ewoks and ignore that epic Jabba the Hutt segment, the Luke v Vader v Palpatine conclusion and Anakin's redemption plus bonus Leia in a gold bikini but the fans are like "waaah ewoks!" 🙄
Instead of an evil religion of two zealots meant to gather power in order to take revenge against the Jedi, they are now socialist practitioners who wish to freely express themselves without prejudice or oppression from the patriarchy even if they have to kill the people in charge to do it. Maybe there was a reason why the Jedi were suppose to be the good guys while the Sith were suppose to be the bad guys.
No matter how it’s spun, whether its the canon, the EU, the prequels, 1) it was the creator building on his creation and 2) everyone always held respect & reverence for the source material until Disney.
the Acolyte simply finished what had been started by Disney and KK after the Lucasfilm sale. a dark day indeed, very Sith like in its insidious manner. 0~o
I am waiting for the death treats to come to them now for this article. This is the hard-core truth and they absolutely hate it. Then we will see who was really the unhinged.
Yes and no. They certainly were stupid at points. I still wonder why the Jedi weren't given "Force warnings" about Order 66...that part was stupid, watching them get shot in the back.
The prequels gave context to the Jedi. Anakin Skywalker brought balanced to the force as he was prophesized to. People just missed the context that the Jedi were the imbalance.
@@kevinfisher5492They did get warned. Aayla was seen pausing as if she sensed something off and didn’t realize what she sensed was her men turning on her.
Ruined? Nah... Its just more Disney Wars garbage. I, and my wallet, will wait until Star Wars' next owner throws all of Coffee Girl Kathy's embarrassments in the trash where they belong. And give the market what it wants instead.
The thing I dislike the most is how Disney has to tear down our hero’s (Han, Luke, Indy, Willow, the Jedi order etc etc) in order to build up “strong female protagonist”.
"It was in Alexandria, near Skywalker Ranch, that I at last realized his failings. George Lucas had not united the entire world, nor had he built a kingdom that would survive his passing." - Adrian Veidt, "Watchmen"
BioWare's Old Republic era was a million times better than Disney's High (Diversity) Republic. Both Jedi and Sith. Seriously, for all the criticism I have of the MMO Star Wars: The Old Republic, it definitely had some cool storytelling that delved into the grey area of both Galactic Republic and Sith Empire and all the planets.
Just to inform. The Knights Templar were not only a religious order of Knights that served the Church. They were also Guards. They protected the trade routes across Europe and into the "Holy Land". They protected the caravans that hauled gold and other metals around. This was one reason the Templars became wealthy as an Order. It is due to a lot of these Banking Families would hire them to defend their interests. And this is also a reason why the Church got so jealous of the Templars. Cause the The Order had all this wealth but did nothing with it. So it took a French Pope and a French King to pretty much label the Knight Templars as heretics and that is what destroyed the Order. All because the Church wanted the Templar Wealth. Not due to any religious reasons. Ironically, that Pope and King died six months later. After being cursed by the last Templar they executed. And it is sad that not all the wealth was ever found the Templar Order held. It is still hidden away. So back around to the Jedi being guards. Not that unlikely. Even more so when you have that many. Also, taking a "religious" leader and a "King" to overthrow the Jedi Order. Yeah. You can see the parallels made. The Jedi Order's downfall was modeled after the Templar's downfall. Just a bit of creative liberty with the whole "Order 66" thing.
The problem with Disney Star Wars is that even if they weren't just trying to milk a beloved franchise for profit, and they legitimately wanted to expand and improve the universe they purchased... ...they didn't have the talent to do so.
Honestly, the most bad ass Jedi moments, and Villains! were those Cartoon Network five minute clone wars shorts how Genndy Tartakovsky didn’t get a chance to make an actual Star Wars show or movie is Criminal! Can only imagine what we Could of got with that Dark Action focused madman at the helm, over Soy Beta Yes Man Dave Baloney!
Star Wars fell apart as Disney got far away from Joseph Campbell and his book "the Hero with a thousand faces". This allowed Lucas to create a modern myth - Star Wars.
Nah, don't worry, it didn't ruin Jedi. The Acolyte (well, Disney Star Wars in general) proved that it's non-canon fanfiction garbage with the way it breaks lore, canon, and continuity. It's just fanfic put to screen.
I have seen a youtube video that says that in the Lore they(The Jedi) ORIGINALLY were a small group of people who did good through out the galaxy. They even had their own planet, but that planet lived out its finally days. (Can't remember the exact details) Later they moved their HQ to where the Republic HQ and lost their way and became bureaucrats instead of being the Knights they were. They became the Republics Guard Dogs.
And to be honest, it wouldn't be difficult to tweak the script of this series and make it good enough. You just needed more passion and care for the lore.
They didn't ruin the Jedi because I don't accept Disney Star Wars as canon. Only the six films by Lucas and the Extended Universe is the only canon I accept. All we see is normies larping on screen interpreting what they think Star Wars is. All while pushing pushing 'the message', 'the agenda', etc. As Kneon has said, I don't care.
I wasn’t disappointed in the jedi in the prequels, for me it all just made scenes to me that they would act the way they did. The Jedi were still an impressive group whose ways were known mostly to them and them alone, they were ambassadors, warrior monks, police and eventually generals…not great generals but generals still. And when you look at the size of the known galaxy their numbers were small. But that’s just me. Oh, and screw the squeal trilogy!!!
Being a Jedi is predominantly a male fantasy and that's why most SW fans men and boys. And, since KK is hell bent of making SW a female brand, it's just logical for her to try and disgrace the image of Jedi so that male fans no longer held Jedi as the "Hero" and replace it girl bosses as the focal point of SW story. AND, her strategy is working as more and more men leaving the franchise but she didn't expect that along the men leaving, women are leaving too. All of the activists never considered the fact that most men and women have the same idea regarding hero i.e most heroes tend to be men and women love masculine and manly heroes! So by making SW female brand, she made it a brand that no one wants! Men don't want it and women don't want it too!🤷♂️🤡
They ruined Luke Skywalker, ruined the force, ruined Anakin's redemption, ruined lightsabers. What hasn't Disney/Lucasfilm ruined at this point?
im casually keeping up. how did they ruin lightsabers...?
they didn't only ruin Anakins redemption, they've now ruined his conception; regardless of whether he was chosen one, sith'ari or whiny little bitch he didn't deserve any of it
@@advuhbwejmn In several shows they have had people get stabbed....stabbed clean through.. and they're fine..up walking in the next scene.
@@advuhbwejmn Multiple insantces in there TV shows where they don't cause much harm, let-alone kill people.
Kenobi Show;
>Reva, stabbed as a child = Survives.
>Grand Inquisitor, Stabbed = Survives
>Reva (Again), Stabbed = Survives.
Ashoka Show (Written by Feloni himself)
>Sabine, Stabbed by lightsaber, had the laser-sword caressed in her belly for about 5 seconds = Survived.
@@advuhbwejmn magic helmets can conk lightsaber out 😅
Who cares about this fanfiction anymore? The only reason this exists by now, is to make fun and ridicule it.
I'll have to give them thanks for that, bitter though it may be. The last few years of Western big-budget entertainment will long stand as a body of objective lessons in how not to write, direct or produce good media.
That's literally the only thing keeping my attention on it now.
Yup, the Acolyte AKA Kathleen Kennedy ruined the Jedi and everything they stood for.
Well... "Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.”
The can't even show creativity with their propaganda.
It wasn't Indiana Jones that was good. He's a miserable old man. A woman was better
It isn't Luke that is the hero. He's a miserable old man. A woman is better.
Dr Who was originally a woman not a man. The male version is an idiot. Unless he is gay. And of course, they can't even show originality with their response to fan backlash
Are you saying, Disney is like communist China?
The Sith would sow conflict, groom the young and vunerable and turn them against eachother, like what Disney has done to the fan base and franchise. Instilling guilt and doubt in fan's mind, convince them that the force is female, some fans fall and force others in this line of thought, however, many others resist this doubious change in lore. Afterall, the force should not hold bias as it always seeks balance in all things.
No truer words have ever been a said.
Evrything they touch turns to rot.
The Disney side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unprofitable.
Is it possible to avoid this power?
@@ThoraxetheImpaile100Yes, by not being like KK.
Reminds me of the Simpsons ep 2x15 Oh Brother, Where Art Thou
What does this monstrosity (Homers car he helped design) cost?
Jerry, what's the sticker price?
$82,000!
This monstrosity costs $82,000? ($180M)
😂😂😂
The Star Was franchise died the SECOND George Lucas sold the rights to Disney..
People seriously took so long to realize ? i realized the moment i watched The Force Awakens.
All of Lucasfilm
They could have continued the story of Jacen Solo and friend in a good sequel trilogy, but NOOO.
@@sugarboi8960
They flew too close to the sun on wings of woke.
Indeed
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And the women shave with gillette razors...so manly...wait...(receives command from chip in brain) there is nothing wrong here.
“Geek culture was gate keeping girls out.”
No, I am pretty sure most guys who are geeks growing up the moment they saw a girl. The only thing they thought was “boobs!”
They didn’t want to get rid of them they wanted more of them.
Right? I was the only girl at a Smash Bros competition way back in the day. And while I did get the initial looks of doubt for using Ice Climbers (and Peach and Pichu in the 'just for fun while waiting' matches), once they saw I could hold my own, they were cheering me on and were literally _begging_ me to participate every year after. XD
Yeah, we being horny and not knowing how vile some women can get was part of our downfall.
The situation most likely worsened after _The Big Bang_ theory made nerd culture popular.
Bigotry isn't cute
@@jtowensbyiii6018 Having a stick up your bum ain't cute, either.
This was my experience. Every geek guy I ever talked to was THRILLED to include me if I asked. I don't know where this gatekeeping myth came from. Maybe the girls that claim it were being jerks?
Lightsabers lore wise are really really deadly the fact anyone could get stabbed by one and walk it off is mind blowingly stupid and lazy writing.
It's super heated plasma that melt through solid metals and a person in the acolyte just walks it off but dies to a fucking fruit knife essentially is so dumb....
Apparently, being struck by contained super-heated plasma in the real world would vaporize all the blood in a human body and cause it to explode violently.
It isn’t plasma but pure energy that said it can cut through so much.
@@emberfist8347 Lightsabers consisted of a plasma blade, powered by a kyber crystal, that was emitted from a usually metal hilt and could be shut off at will. - Wookiepedia
BUT remember plot armor. IF the character is female and powerful she can't be hurt by it. Just a light burn wound. Get the bacta gel!
...
Yeah. They broken that too.
@@qualthos1 That is Disney not legends.
Disney ruined something that was considered sacred.
Having nice things is Far Right.
Just like they've done with everything under their umbrella.
MODERN Disney
@@McFrozenNuggets True
Redemption is sacred. Which is why they've spent every moment trying to defile that.
When they start pushing moral relativism, it leads to nihilism and eventually leads to apathy. That's what Disney Star Wars has become.
The people who push moral relativism are pretty sure of where they sit on the objective Good vs Evil spectrum and that's why they hate it. Understand that the lesser evil is still evil.
EXACTLY
@@Theranthrope The guy who said that “no good or evil in Star Wars” come to mind.
Apathy is death.
I think they push moral relativism because they are nihilistic and apathetic. But they feel more comfortable removing the mask now. I wouldn't attribute any growth to it
The Timothy Zahn novels would have made everyone happy. The last trilogy focusing on Leia and rebuilding the republic with Luke going a mission and side quest would have been great. Luke and Leia lightsaber training scene would have been good too.
It's years too late for it unless they recast Han, Luke and Leia (something that I might be able to accept), but yes, absolutely. I wish that they had made those novels into movies 30 years ago. They should have done those instead of the prequels.
@@ChaoticYak1 In another 30 years, it could be normal to just feed those novels into an A.I., which then renders it as a movie using the appearances of the original actors - or whichever you want to see in the roles. That's the only hope one can have now for these franchises futures. Maybe earlier …
@@Cau_No Honestly, the one thing I hope comes out of all this AI stuff is something like the Star Trek holodeck where I could do exactly that. "Computer, make a movie out of Heir to the Empire. All original cast at appropriate ages." And then feed the descriptions for the other characters and get castings for those as well.
Star Wars: The Kennedy Assassination.
Now, Kennedy is the assassin!
Now coming to theater this fall 2024 lol
It would be be great if a(n honest) Star War trilogy was made about how Kennedy acquired and ruined the franchise. (It will never happen.) I can imagine the Darth Vader music playing as Kennedy walks down the stairs or seeing Rian Johnson pressing the buttons in the Death Star while it is aimed at the franchise (Star Wars).
Disney star wars is that creepy ex that still tries to text you in the middle of night and then rages at you because you don't want to see her anymore.
That one ex that still posts about her toxic relationship with you and how much you were a toxic abuser, despite the fact that it's been years and she used to cheat on you with her heroine dealet
You don't have the number blocked? That would be my first move if I was done with someone, but your point still stands!
When you see the Jedi, an order of Buddhist-style mystics cultivating inner peace to channel kinetic powers, trained to wield extremely dangerous weapons to battle overwhelming odds... whose ultimate downfall came specifically from growing too complacent and permissive of external civilian government, allying too much with them and "going native" among them... being interpreted by the writers of a Star Wars show as "they're just American cops enforcing laws to keep the oppressed down!"... you know they aren't competent enough to operate a pencil, let alone write a Jedi-Sith story.
Also it doesn't help when my mind also thought on how the matriarchal lesbian space witches are portrayed: very tribal, live in caves of an isolated area. By all intents and purposes they should be considered on the same level of a pre-warp civilization is from Star Trek.
Yet they know what a Jedi is, and the Republic?
They are living in caves with no modern tools around them, not even a damn knife. Why are they portraying the Rousseau view of 'man lived a better life when we were hunter-gathers, living in caves and be in constant fear of larger predators' world view?
I already say "F Rousseau" due to him being one of the fathers of modern thought on equality (and the worst one); but are we unironically going to say living like cave people is a better lifestyle in media? During a time when people have comforts like AC during 100°+F weather.
I thought I hated Rousseau, but I don't hate him and his philosophy enough.
Anakin Skywalker brought balance to the force through the original 6 episodes.
The moralistic and authoritarian Jedi were the imbalance, even before Disney took the reigns.
@@justinwhite2725that is not how balance works.
@@justinwhite2725 By Lucas the Jedi were following the will of the Force. They sometimes failed, but they tried. There is only the Force and the Darkside is the corruption. In the end of the 6 episode saga there were 1 Jedi (Luke), a possible Jedi (Leia), one dying Jedi(Anakin) and hope for more Jedi. That was balance. The Force was in balance with Jedi as they follow it. Sith, by nature, want to usurp it and make it suffer.
8:22 - "The 90s are true. The Dial Up Internet, the Blockbuster Video. All of it. It's all true." - Han "Booyah" Solo
Jedi had complete control over their emotions for the greater good.
The Acolyte has emotionally incontinent crybabies cosplaying as Jedi.
Well said. How come none of the "fans" who are praising this shit have noticed how overly emotional and angry the "Jedi" are in this show?
@@kevinfisher5492 yes, because no Jedi in the Prequels or the OT ever got angry
Only Jedi already falling to the Dark Side, with the notable exception of Mace Windu for being an anomaly that used both siedes.
The Jedi were moralistic authoritarians whose quelling of emotions left them separated from humanity.
That's why the needed Anakin Skywalker (aka Darth Vader) to rebalance the force.
@@BertoxolusThePuzzledHe didn’t.
About 10,00 Jedi within a galaxy isn’t a lot. Most people would probably never see a Jedi. You would have a better chance of seeing a space marine in 40k in your lifetime.
10K Jedi Knights just to show how small that number is The Empire had 25K Imperial Star Destroyers
There were roughly 1.3 million planets apart of the republic during the prequels. Not to mention out of those 10,000 Jedi it seemed like most of them just sat in Coruscant most of the time so if you didn't live in Coruscant you probably didn't run into one.
@@TheCrow938 We need a Jedi series like The Office set in the Jedi Temple, Dwight uses a lightsaber to make an ice sculpture, Force practice jokes, the fat Jedi in acolyte Kevin, Sol as the manage
They turned the Jedi into child predators because they wanted to see themselves in Star Wars.
The Jedi were ruined by a long tradition of social activists who worked very hard trying to justify the evil of the Sith. The last episode is a prime example, as Darth Gimpface just "wants to be left alone" to wave his sith flag without those damned normies...I mean Jedi...telling him to stop. Oh such a glorious parable for the "modern audience" that doesn't exist. Yes, we're evil but just leave us be! Let us be evil and do evil things because...well you have to.
That’s not the issue with this story. When the book Darth Plagueis and Darth Bane came out with the same Sith main character goals, no one bitched about it like you are right now.
The Acolyte isn’t s good show, but this is NOT the reason it’s bad. What else do you expect from a dark-side centric story?
"I just want to be evil and live my life and train other people to be evil like me."
Wow.....way to tip your hand, KKT.
Non evil sith used to be the exception. Like 1 in a million. Now, they've tried to make them the rule, by trying to make the jedi the evil ones.
@@leurunner4764
Acolyte is just copying the old republic comics. The ones about Zayne Carrick, where a bunch of arrogant masters who were conceited to the point where they did not see their own crimes got destroyed by a padawn who was unworthy of becoming a knight.
Darth gimpfk?😢
Evil can't create something new and respected franchise and characters and past and lore. They only ruin and corrupt and disrespect franchise and characters and past and lore.
They wish to break down the mythology in order to raise it up in their image. Same with Star Trek, Doctor Who, and Lord of The Rings.
It sounds like this series is the equivalent of Doctor Who’s “the timeless child.”
It has a lot of parallels and it is a series ending retcon.
These….things Disney make seem like are made out of spite for the fans.
"Kick ass Adventures"? - Someone needs to rewatch ESB - Yoda - “Adventure. Excitement. A Jedi craves not these things”
To be fair, they don't have to crave kick ass adventures to get caught up in them.
The damage that the big Bang theory did to nerdom should be catalogued as war crime.
Wait, what? Would you care to elaborate?
@@hida99ash I'm not ventzxX but The Big Bang Theory invited people who look down on geek culture into geek culture. To reword it, The Big Bang Theory brought people into franchises that these people didn't respect or even like... Imagine if abattoirs employed and were controlled by self-righteous vegetarians who believed that eating meat was immoral. Or giving people who believed that violence was ALWAYS wrong, power over the sport known as "boxing." Those are parallel to what The Big Bang Theory did. Of course, The Big Bang Theory wasn't the only show that did this but it certainly was the show that did so the most. If it wasn't for The Big Bang Theory these "Cool Nerds" wouldn't have touched a quarter of what they have infected.
(Also when one doesn't care about a franchise, one doesn't care when that franchise becomes worse, hence all the attempts to warp the original franchises... "For the Greater Good." We can look at franchises like "Dr Who," "Star Wars" etc.)
I do find it interesting that they keep saying that women weren't allowed to like Star Wars or whatever. I never had a single person come up to me and say, "I'm sorry. You're not allowed to purchase those Star Wars novels. Please put them back on the shelf for a man to buy." I watched the movies. I read the books. Heck, my friend and I stood in line at the theater for the The Phantom Menace and we were not the only women in line. Nor were we told we shouldn't be there. I'm not sure where these people are finding that they're kept out of Star Wars, but I sure haven't ever experienced even a hint of that.
Ditto 👍🏾
the only thing that contributed to this myth, was the way geeks were seen, as Guys who could not interact with women wo being cringe.
That balooned to the stuff we see today, plus the fact the just wrote bad chacters and instead of acepting it, they defended it the worst way possible.
It's made up bs meant to cause division. None of it is true.
I don’t understand how “they” think this is good for Disney? Surely? SURELY making something of quality will do them good in the long run, you want to create a legacy. No one will remember this I haven’t even watched acolyte and never will
It's simple. When you don't hire on merit you don't get merit.
When Bob Iger and his cronies have been removed we might find out how many franchises they bought made a profit.
Me? I doubt any of them made a profit. Not Star Wars, not Marvel, not the Muppet show or anything else they (Iger) bought.
P.S. Yes, some Marvel movies were successful, even very successful, but that might be negated by the losses on all the shows on Disney+.
And stop calling them Shirley. Sorry.
18:34 Those people that hated nered culture and stomped on your lunchbox are the same kind that are in charge of nerd culture now.
At this point, Star Wars is all about ruining Star Wars.... But yeah, the Acolyte and The Last Jedi did destroyed the mysticism that was the Jedi, basically space monks.
That's the funniest yet saddest thing. OT and PT Jedi were space oriental martial artists with inner peace and channeling energy and focus, complete with a not-Shaolin temple. And as if to further underline this, PT Jedi's demise came from growing too lax and going native in the Republic by allying with them directly, while forgetting what their tenets truly stood for and losing themselves to pride.
Meanwhile Disney Wars Jedi are just a space police force with magic training.
@@cattrucker8257 Lucas-Jedi = Allegories for enlightened beings(Djed-eye) and masters of themselves. Disney Jedi = Depressed losers born with mutant space powers that die if they use them too much.
How did TLJ ruin the Jedi?
@@IndyDefense Are you serious? Jedi are supposed to be enlightened beings(Djed-eye). They are masters of themselves.
Luke could not have been a Jedi AND a depressed loser. That would be traveling down the dark path.
But the writer also confused the dark and the light path by putting Rey on the easy path and Kylo being disciplined for his entire life. This is the inverse of what Yoda said in ESB.
Rey would have been powerless without any training due to the prior-established lore. They didn't care and made Rey a master of mystical techniques by "being born that way." The same thing with Broom Boy just using telekinesis at the end. Just born with ability=privileged. It's some "participation-trophy"-version of the force where nothing is earned.
Djed-eye are not a Lucas concept. Disney just wanted to make Jedi into losers so they pretend to have gotten things confused.
See, one can't become a Jedi "master" and then fall into depression. They had to change what a jedi was in order to portray emotional losers who could be your neighbor.
Now, they are space cops with modern handcuffs:"In the name of the Republic, you're under arrest!" Pure cringe.
Fans: "Jedi are cool"
Disney: "no they aren't!"
@@Treblaine the Jedi were always a highly problematic order. Part of the story of Return of the Jedi back in 1983 was Luke dismantling the ideologies of the Jedi Order because they were wrong
@@izzik2781 TF he did, not in 83.
@@Treblaine he absolutely did. That's literally the point of Luke Skywalker. That he sees the flaws in the Jedi and strives to be better.
@@izzik2781 BS, he wanted to be a Jedi and proudly declared he was.
It was 30 years later Disney retconned it.
@@Treblaine nope. Its all there in Return of the Jedi. Clearly you missed the point of Luke's character. I suggest watching again and paying attention. Stop trying to blame Disney for things that were already in effect under George Lucas
the power of 1 the power of 2 the power of many corporate screw ups!~
Still a fan of star wars, 4-6, then 1-3. 7-9 will never NEVER be in my collection.
Same here. Revenge Of The Sith is the best💯
Let's all go enjoy some pre-Disney SW EU.
Dark Forces and Jedi Knight series, probably the peak of Star Wars. With honorable second place to the Old Republic series.
Interesting that in the Clownfish videos I watch about the Acolyte, many of the recommended videos have female TH-camrs who also criticize the show, and Star Wars, yet it's only "Guys in ball caps."
What hasn't Lucasfilm ruined at this point
Epst… i mean Jedi Island
“That is an excellent question.”
- Wilbur, Meet The Robinsons
Bananas of the Old Republic
The robes the jedi suits still look fine.
@@RoTenkenNot in the Acolyte or High Republic they are too opulent.
This garbage will not get a second season.
Oh it will. Look at Velma. No one watched it yet it got a second season and it will probably get a third
I disagree, it will. Just like Ahsucka. They are not driven by "ratings." They are only making these shows for BlackRock.
It’s just gonna be yet another Batwoman situation.
Yes and no, as Velma's two seasons were actually one season they cut in half that had already been fully ordered. They had to at least try to recoup the costs by running the rest despite the critical response.
@@BertoxolusThePuzzled they exactly know that it wasn't watched. They should have stopped. So regardless what you have said. They still aired it. Spending more money on marketing the 'Rest of season 1'. It's still not being watched
The Jedi's been ruined since Disney owned the IP to "Star Wars" & allowing KK is push her "The Force is Female" agenda on it. Question, what took Forbes- & other news sources so long to noticed that- rather than attacking the OG fans for noticing it from the get-go?
The fans have spoken and the stats are accurate. Disney Star Wars is garbage and people don't care what the mainstream media and shills have to say people are not buying it 🤷
It only "ruins" the Jedi if you accept that anything Disney has done is legitimately Star Wars.
Personally I dont recognize a damn thing theyve done as being Star Wars.
Star Wars ain't dead... it just finished in '83!
Huh, not even the old republic or prequels then?
Ok, just because the Jedi didn't align with your head canon, doesn't make them boring. I'm so sick and tired of this "prequels do something that doesn't align with my head canon makes them bad" argument. It's nothing but whinging and carries no substance as it's just fans throwing a temper tantrum. Please stop making these arguments and offer constructive criticism.
But other than that, I agree with your take on the article.
i feel the same way on how people regard Return of the Jedi just becuz of the ewoks
they focus on the ewoks and ignore that epic Jabba the Hutt segment, the Luke v Vader v Palpatine conclusion and Anakin's redemption plus bonus Leia in a gold bikini
but the fans are like "waaah ewoks!" 🙄
Seems like it ruined the Sith too.
Instead of an evil religion of two zealots meant to gather power in order to take revenge against the Jedi, they are now socialist practitioners who wish to freely express themselves without prejudice or oppression from the patriarchy even if they have to kill the people in charge to do it.
Maybe there was a reason why the Jedi were suppose to be the good guys while the Sith were suppose to be the bad guys.
No matter how it’s spun, whether its the canon, the EU, the prequels, 1) it was the creator building on his creation and 2) everyone always held respect & reverence for the source material until Disney.
I keep seeing people writing about how the Jedi are evil because they kidnap children and make them 'child soldiers'..... COME ON!....
Those are antifans.
they mess the rule of two for some reason
So sad, killing a entertainment institution...
the Acolyte simply finished what had been started by Disney and KK after the Lucasfilm sale. a dark day indeed, very Sith like in its insidious manner. 0~o
The Big Bang Theory turned everything into "geek chic", for a new audience of jocks who used to make fun of those geeks and nerds.
But it did succeed in slaying Darth Patriarchus. 😉
When everyone's pronouns are up for question, everyone is patriarchy.
I am waiting for the death treats to come to them now for this article. This is the hard-core truth and they absolutely hate it. Then we will see who was really the unhinged.
I know this is just a typo, but "death treats" sound intriguing. Are they tasty or terrifying? :D
@@ChaoticYak1 Oh no! XD Oh well, the internet never forgets even for typos. XD
@@ChaoticYak1That was a good one! 😂😂😂
ANAKIN SKYWALKER WAS THE CHOSEN ONE!!! I DON'T GIVE A WAMPA ASS ABOUT REY OR ANYTHING DISNEY HASHED UP
As far as my descendants will ever know... Star Wars EU/Legends is the true canon. Disney's version is mere parody or doesn't exist.
once any small business gets bought by a big company they almost always ruin whatever made it unique in the first place within a short time frame.
Disney ruined Muppets too
this show really CAN'T be canon
it just ruins too much to possibly be considered canon
No, it didn't. The Acolyte isn't canon. So the Jedi are not affected by this garbage.
They received their orders from the borg queen and like good little drones, repeat the mantra. Persistence is futile.
The prequels didn't ruin the Jedi.
Yes and no. They certainly were stupid at points. I still wonder why the Jedi weren't given "Force warnings" about Order 66...that part was stupid, watching them get shot in the back.
@@kevinfisher5492 "The dark side clouds everything. Impossible to see, the future is".
The prequels gave context to the Jedi. Anakin Skywalker brought balanced to the force as he was prophesized to. People just missed the context that the Jedi were the imbalance.
@@kevinfisher5492They did get warned. Aayla was seen pausing as if she sensed something off and didn’t realize what she sensed was her men turning on her.
@@justinwhite2725No it is clearly stated to be the Sith.
I think KK is butt hurt that her whole High Republic thing flopped, so now she's burning it down.
Ruined? Nah... Its just more Disney Wars garbage. I, and my wallet, will wait until Star Wars' next owner throws all of Coffee Girl Kathy's embarrassments in the trash where they belong. And give the market what it wants instead.
That's gonna be a HELL of a hole in the history to be carved out.
The thing I dislike the most is how Disney has to tear down our hero’s (Han, Luke, Indy, Willow, the Jedi order etc etc) in order to build up “strong female protagonist”.
Good thing I completely ignore all this Disney fan fiction and stick to true Star Wars 1-6 the Complete Saga
The Acolyte ruined ALL OF STAR WARS!! TEN TIMES OVER!!!
The force awakens: A New Hope: Electric boogaloo
Y’all are one of the best nerd couple on social media…..please NEVER change 😎👍🏼👍🏼💯
"It was in Alexandria, near Skywalker Ranch, that I at last realized his failings. George Lucas had not united the entire world, nor had he built a kingdom that would survive his passing." - Adrian Veidt, "Watchmen"
Just stick with the original six films and *_The Clone Wars_* series plus *_Rogue One._* That's all you need.
nothing from disney matters
@@ItsaKindOfMagic86 *_Rogue One_* was good and actually enhanced the original movie.
I think Rebels was alright.
@@parkergreen2704 I agree.
BioWare's Old Republic era was a million times better than Disney's High (Diversity) Republic. Both Jedi and Sith.
Seriously, for all the criticism I have of the MMO Star Wars: The Old Republic, it definitely had some cool storytelling that delved into the grey area of both Galactic Republic and Sith Empire and all the planets.
With _The Acolyte,_ the final nail has been hammered sealing the coffin of the _Star Wars_ franchise.
No disney ruined the jedi.
Homyi really didn't mind the Jedi being a little bureaucratical. After all why would a order of knights be a chaotic mess of nomads.
Just to inform. The Knights Templar were not only a religious order of Knights that served the Church. They were also Guards. They protected the trade routes across Europe and into the "Holy Land". They protected the caravans that hauled gold and other metals around. This was one reason the Templars became wealthy as an Order. It is due to a lot of these Banking Families would hire them to defend their interests. And this is also a reason why the Church got so jealous of the Templars. Cause the The Order had all this wealth but did nothing with it. So it took a French Pope and a French King to pretty much label the Knight Templars as heretics and that is what destroyed the Order. All because the Church wanted the Templar Wealth. Not due to any religious reasons. Ironically, that Pope and King died six months later. After being cursed by the last Templar they executed.
And it is sad that not all the wealth was ever found the Templar Order held. It is still hidden away.
So back around to the Jedi being guards. Not that unlikely. Even more so when you have that many. Also, taking a "religious" leader and a "King" to overthrow the Jedi Order. Yeah. You can see the parallels made. The Jedi Order's downfall was modeled after the Templar's downfall. Just a bit of creative liberty with the whole "Order 66" thing.
What you said about the Templars is 100% accurate.
The problem with Disney Star Wars is that even if they weren't just trying to milk a beloved franchise for profit, and they legitimately wanted to expand and improve the universe they purchased...
...they didn't have the talent to do so.
Erik Kain is and has been one of the most sensible voices in mainstream media for a long time now.
Honestly, the most bad ass Jedi moments, and Villains! were those Cartoon Network five minute clone wars shorts how Genndy Tartakovsky didn’t get a chance to make an actual Star Wars show or movie is Criminal! Can only imagine what we Could of got with that Dark Action focused madman at the helm, over Soy Beta Yes Man Dave Baloney!
No because Genndy doesn’t understand Star Wars.
@@emberfist8347 oh yeah, because Disney is just killin it with KK and Dave Fullofit 🙄
The Mary Sue dropped an article two days ago crying about how The Acolyte "doesn't ruin Star Wars." Because of course they did.
Star Wars fell apart as Disney got far away from Joseph Campbell and his book "the Hero with a thousand faces". This allowed Lucas to create a modern myth - Star Wars.
Ruining the thing that you’re supposed to go to the theme park to pretend to be. A bold strategy!
Nothing surprises me with Disney Star Wars, we all knew it was gonna be like this
Geeky's still gonna go to Disney World.
5:58 everyone remembers the samurai for the badass things they do not for the atrocities they’d commit in the name of the lords they follow.
The Ruining.. continues.. There can be only Many.. Many.. many
Nah, don't worry, it didn't ruin Jedi. The Acolyte (well, Disney Star Wars in general) proved that it's non-canon fanfiction garbage with the way it breaks lore, canon, and continuity. It's just fanfic put to screen.
When will Dylan Mulvaney be hired to win fans back to the franchise?
I think that was the goal.
Based on that show its hard to believe the Jedi have been around 25 years much less 25,000 years or wherever their start is now.
Well I guess at least it pays your bills
I have seen a youtube video that says that in the Lore they(The Jedi) ORIGINALLY were a small group of people who did good through out the galaxy. They even had their own planet, but that planet lived out its finally days. (Can't remember the exact details) Later they moved their HQ to where the Republic HQ and lost their way and became bureaucrats instead of being the Knights they were. They became the Republics Guard Dogs.
Tractor supply and good morning America also?
The only hope for Star Wars is to go back and retcon it being sold to Disney.
💯💯. 🎶IF I COULD TURN BACK TIME🎶
I remembered when I joked they would put singing into star wars movies.
And to be honest, it wouldn't be difficult to tweak the script of this series and make it good enough. You just needed more passion and care for the lore.
Actually First
The power of mon..er..many.
Mark drank too much of the drink Disney and Lucasfilm gave him.He could no longer carry the fans anymore.
They didn't ruin the Jedi because I don't accept Disney Star Wars as canon. Only the six films by Lucas and the Extended Universe is the only canon I accept.
All we see is normies larping on screen interpreting what they think Star Wars is. All while pushing pushing 'the message', 'the agenda', etc.
As Kneon has said, I don't care.
Another Daily Doses of Dismal Acolyte Star Wars.
STARS WARS MIRROR UNIVERSE STAR TREK HAS IT NOW STAR WARS
Thank goodness for Timothy Zahn and Marc Thompson.
I wasn’t disappointed in the jedi in the prequels, for me it all just made scenes to me that they would act the way they did. The Jedi were still an impressive group whose ways were known mostly to them and them alone, they were ambassadors, warrior monks, police and eventually generals…not great generals but generals still. And when you look at the size of the known galaxy their numbers were small. But that’s just me.
Oh, and screw the squeal trilogy!!!
Star Wars Episodes 1-6 are Canon. Spread the word 😎😎
Being a Jedi is predominantly a male fantasy and that's why most SW fans men and boys. And, since KK is hell bent of making SW a female brand, it's just logical for her to try and disgrace the image of Jedi so that male fans no longer held Jedi as the "Hero" and replace it girl bosses as the focal point of SW story. AND, her strategy is working as more and more men leaving the franchise but she didn't expect that along the men leaving, women are leaving too. All of the activists never considered the fact that most men and women have the same idea regarding hero i.e most heroes tend to be men and women love masculine and manly heroes! So by making SW female brand, she made it a brand that no one wants! Men don't want it and women don't want it too!🤷♂️🤡