As someone who just switched from Testor's Models Master paints to Tamiya, the Tamiya paints are fantastic and I fully endorse them!! I've been building models for almost 30 years and used to use Model Master enamels. I started using MM acrylics about 20 years ago and for the most part they did well but here in the past 5 or so years Model Master seems to have developed a problem with their formula. I even contacted Testors and told them about this only to receive a snarky reply stating "I wasn't mixing them correctly" which is BS....I always mixed the MM paints using MM thinner to the proper proportions yet here recently I have to fiddle with the mixture to get a good finish. With Tamiya it's add 2 parts paint to 1 part thinner, aim and shoot! No adding thinner, paint, etc. it sprays great every time!
+TacticalJackalope hey um..im probably stupid but ah......can we use thinner that my mom used for her nail polish? (the thinner they use to clear the nail polish)
+Stephen Tay don't, you'll mess your paint and possibly melt the plastic of the model. Nail polish thinner/cleaner is (generally) acetone. Tamiya acrylics are diluted with Isopropyl Alcohol (that's what the Tamiya X20 thinner is), Vallejo acrylics are diluted with distille water or Isopropyl Alcohol. I think there are model colors that can be thinned with acetone, but I'm not an expert (also, creful, that stuff is toxic).
Renato Ramonda They are also thinned with their lacquer thinner in fact I prefer it. Tamiya acrylics are unique because they are a solvent based acrylic.
Yup.....that was fantastic. I counted 21 drops of dark yellow! Only kiddin'! That was super helpful and it's out there on youtube now so hopefully other people will benefit too. Thanx so much for doing that - I could watch your videos all day! They are very informative and helpful but easy to watch and listen to as well. I can't seem to pm you - I still have my laptop which I'm phasing out and using my Samsung Galaxy tablet more and more, so I'll muck about with it and try and pm you. I just tried the hairspray technique on a Stug F/8 and it turned out not bad for a first attempt but have a LOT more work to do on it, weathering wise. Almost finished my Pz III Ausf G and have a few photos I'd like to send ya, so I'll look into the pm thang again. See ya, and thanx again! Oh also, thanx for mentioning my channel and saying nice things about my builds!
Nice Video fella. To anyone looking for an alternative to X-20A thinner and you want your Tamiya to perform better, try Tamiya Yellow top Lacquer Thinner, Mr.color Leveling Thinner or Klean-Strip Lacquer Thinner. Tamiya loves those thinners and does much better than X-20A. I also add a bit of Gloss to my XF-Flat Paints for even better finishes and performance. I use an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS AB and the Tamiya and this AB is a match made in Heaven. Just my experience and opinion. Cheers!
Yes I did see the link but since it didn't mention anything about an edited version I assumed it was the same content in HD. Thanks for the condescending reply, much appreciated.
+John Gibson I wasn't being condescending I merely pointed out that perhaps you missed the rather large annotation to call out the V 2.0 video which is also in HD. Now this you may find a bit condescending... the V 2.0 up from V 1.0( V meaning version) implies a modification or new material not just an HD upgrade. You made a bit of an impertinent comment about the length of this video and I was simply informing you that perhaps the new version might be more to your liking. Cheers.
Andy, That Badger paint mixer works great, the impeller shaft cleans so easily. The Master Air-brushes are pretty good also. I've got three of them. I think some people just dis-agree to dis-agree. Excellent tip and vid. - Bob
Andy, Yes, you're correct. Chris does have me on the do more with less thought process. But, I'm also still learning the how to's of air-brushing. Had too laugh, I thought I was the only one who still an old used t-shirt in the modeling room! Thanks again for the informative vids and tips. - Bob
I'm 62yrs. old and I used to love to build models when I was young. I just recently started trying to use the airbrush and that may be the end of my model building hobby. I thought that I would first learn to shoot acrylics. So all I've used is Tamiya paints and Tamiya thinner. This is the fourth model that I've had to trash due to orange peel. the overall paint jobs really weren't that bad they just had those little bumps. So I haven't even got to the clear coat yet. I really could use some advice. Thx, MacAttack
Hi Michael, "orange peel" is the effect of the paint drying before it hits the surface of the model. This can be caused by several things. Either the paint has not been reduced/thinned enough or you are not close enough to the subject when spraying or you are spraying at too high a pressure. I suggest you purchase a couple of sheets of styrene from your local hobby store to practice on before using paint on a model. Try getting 6" or closer to the subject and make sure you spraying somewhere in the ballpark of 20 psi or so. Tamiya color is very forgiving when using it and can be thinned anywhere from 2:1 to almost 1:1 paint to thinner. I hope this helps.
Thx, TacticalJackalope, I can use all of the advice that I can get. I"ve shown the paint job to a couple of friends and they said " nice paint job" they just don't know any better. My question now is should I go ahead and apply the clear coat now or try to fix it first. It"S Lemon yellow.I messaged The Scale Modeler And he told me to go ahead and clear coat it since it was a light color. I don't know if he's saying fix it before or after clear coat and if so, how. I know that this is all about that learning curve. Thx again, The Mac Attack
I was thinking the same way as you. But the O.P. is so small the paint job really still looks pretty good. I was wondering if maybe I could rub it out with that Novus #2 or something. Maybe I'm just trying to kick a died horse. Thx,M
Hi I also like Tamiya as an airbrushing paint. Life Colour can be a pain through air brush although is excellent for brush painting. There is a site on here though alled International Scale Modeller (UK). A guy Paul I think got someone who works for them to demonstrate how to do properly and said he has no probs now. I believe this is up on youtube. Nice vid.
chaz01br Yes I know them well in fact I have spoken with Paul a couple of times and used to be on the forums pretty regularly. No time any more just keeping my channel going and getting a bit of bench time is hard enough.
I’m from the U.K, I get my pippets from Amazon, you can get 100 pippets for £7.50-10+p&p. You can get 30ml mixing cups with lids cheaply from Amazon too they’re a lot cheaper than branded items, they’re good mixing up a batch of thinned paint if your going to be spraying a good few model parts as they are marked in Millilitre increments.
You're a talented and skilled model painter. Have you actually done a side by side test of the brand name like Tamiya or other commercial acrylic paint thinners to see if they are really that much better than windex, water or acrylic floor wax, which by the way is just the acrylic base without any pigment, and a hardener for durability. You can get the same dilution ratio with all of them. How much are you paying for that bottle of Tamiya thinner. Anyway thanks for all the excellent videos.
BennyCFD I only use the manufacturers thinner or cleaner. I don't have the time to test and experiment and personally don't see the value. I might spend $15-20 a year on thinner and to me that is inconsequential. Thank you for your valuable time in watching and commenting on my video.
Hi!recently I bough my first airbrush and I don’t know how I thin the enamels( I have a lot of them)for using with airbrush, i’ve seen many videos and I couldn’t get the relationship between thinner/enamel Thanks for your video,I’ll wait for your answer.
Quick tip Stir your paint out of the cup and then pour it in the cup Better results, no larger paint pieces get caught in the nozzle This is Angel Giraldez technique and it really works
thank you very much!! this video help me a lot!! keep the good work man!! :D... can you do a video of how to do camouflage for tank or any armed vehicles?? thanks again!!
Went nuts this afternoon. Paasche airbrush. Miller Compressor (old). For 50 years, I used Floquil. Now pretty much forced to use other paints. Used some Model Master Acryl. Would barely come out the airbrush. Actually almost worked better brushing it on. Also had on had one Tru-color, which the last time I used it came flowing out of the airbrush as was, unthinned. That one calls for Acetone to clean up. Today - nothing! Used Pollyscale before with 91% alcohol thinner, worked great, cleaned up great with water, but I did not have military colors. So I had picked up some Model Master but as I said, went bonkers trying to get it to come out the airbrush. So I ordered some more Tamiya, since I at least know how to thin that, thanks to your video. Any ideas on Model Master?
DocLaw172 If these were Model Master Acryl's they are designed to sprayed directly from the bottle without thinning but I haven't used them yet. You might try their thinner...you will find it at your local Hobby Lobby in the model/hobby section.
TacticalJackalope Well, I may be driven crazy, but I won't let it stop me. (sign of true insanity, right?) The painting session was for a Revell ME-262 (Model Master) and an Athearn F7 shell detailed for Pennsylvania (Tru-Color). I'm thinking too it might have been the place I paint was colder (office) and the paint had not warmed up sufficiently. I'll try the MM out of the jar next time, and I have one of those little battery paint spinner things on order. Will report back when I try again.
Realize this is a very old video, but very helpful to me so thanks. I was wondering if you still thin Tamiya paints this way for airbrushing and use the X-20A? Also, do you thin Tamiya for hand brushing small areas and detail? Do you use Tamiya primer, and if so, do you thin it at all?
Hi, Great little tutorial i`ve found here-thanks for posting it!! Can i ask how you would do "Snake like" camo lies on an AFV?....Thinking dark Green and Red Brown on a base of Dunklegreb?!! Cheers, Andy
It depends really on the effect you want to achieve. German camo patterns of WWII were field applied except for a just a few late war vehicles and they were randomly applied in many ways. This gies you quite a bit of artistic license especially with an airbrush so nothing would really be "wrong" per se. That being said if you want to recreate thin lines then you need to turn the pressure down on your compressor and closer to the subject you are painting.
This was an interesting video however I don't have the Tamiya thinner I usually thin there paint with distilled water and I haven't had too many issues with that however I am getting ready to try to airbrush a couple of transparent domes with some of the Tamiya transparent color and I'm really not too sure how to be able to coat them with the transparent color so that I get an even finish on it and not lines or a dark spot or here and lighter over there as these will be being lit up what do you suggest for that? Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
TacticalJackalope, I am hoping you can answer this question. I used your video on thinning Tamiya paint to airbrush a plane. I used this paint because it was the closest that I could find to make the rest of the manufactures paint. My problem is that I discovered the hard way that denatured alcohol will remove this paint. So, do you know of a clear coat that I can use with this paint that won't break it down when applied and protect it from nitro methane or other alcohol based products?
I am assuming this was with an RC aircraft? The X20A thinner of Tamiya is an alcohol based product which is interesting that you have had this problem but if you want to protect the paint there are several products available. You should probably use a lacquer based product. Testors makes a product called "dull coat" that comes in a small aerosol can this might do the trick.
$13 bucks for X-20 thinner, plus $20 for expedited shipping. So far I'm in almost $500( not including models). New to the hobby, I hope I stick with it. Useful video, I chose to go with Tamiya colors :)
GTPRIME209 Dude...these products are readily available from U.S. stores. Next time I suggest you purchase from Scalehobbyist.com. www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/browse.php?kw=Tamiya,thinner
Tamiya actually has available in the USA now Panel Line Accent Color. May different colors now (6 I think) I use the black and dark brown. But as he said I only to panel lines and weathering after the clear coats are done.
so for example when paint ratios require 3:1:1 (3 drops, 1 drop, 1drop) of red, white, black and you want to make enough paint to not go back and mix colors again, will the color always be the same shade if you mix 3 to 1 to 1 as, lets say, 12 to 4 to 4?
ThisNamesNowTaken Well the short answer is...yes! Tamiya makes some nice glass bottles to store pre mixed paint in that are really nice and affordable.
Kordell Cunningham Hello and thank you for watching. If you are asking me what type or brand of primer to use then that is a very difficult question to ask. There are many good primers on the market and it would depend what you have access to.
I buy maybe one or two bottles of X20A thinner per year so for me I don't see the savings. This is hobby therefore all money spent is discretionary if $12 a year is a problem then I need to find another hobby.
You buy what you want. I'm just letting others who watch this that there is a cheaper option. Here in Perth the Tamiya thinner is 7 times the price of Isopropyl Alochol.
Hi! Never airbrushed before, but can you use artists tape over an area you've airbrushed? Will the adhesive of the tape peel off the paint when you take it off?
+Doc Von Doom Well, it depends really on the type of paint and how long you gave it to cure. With Vallejo paint no way I would try that but with Tamiya after about 24 hours you bet.
Great video! But I swear I can NOT make the 2 to 1 paint to thinner ratio work in my Iwata eclipse OR my paasche H. W the white and both yellow cap tamiya thinners. I find I have to do the reverse, if not even MORE than twice the amount of thinner! Anything less then my nozzle clogs pretty quickly. No idea how ratios can vary so much.
I clean the airbrush thoroughly after every 5-7 uses maybe? But I almost always mix everything in the cup, stirring w a brush and then back pressure bubble it up to make sure. You think this makes a difference?
hey quick question; I recently bought a testors easy air airbrush which is pretty much a aztec airbrush, and I was woundering if I can use tamiya paint with it? can I use laquir thinner from home depot to thin it out?
+Yeshua Flores Yes, any airbrush can spray Tamiya paint thinned properly. No on the hardware store lacquer you Must use Tamiya's lacquer thinner regular lacquer thinner can and will eat plastic.
Are you really supposed to stir it in the airbrush ? When I do that, no matter how long I stir it the airbrush still spits a mix of hard paint and sometimes even just the thinner. Bubbles are also leaking out at the cap...
Dreadenthax Yes it is necessary to properly mix the paint and thinner when they are introduced into the paint cup. If you are seeing paint bubble and come out of the cap then your brush is in serious need of a detail strip and thorough cleaning. It is either completely or partially clogged which is causing air to flow back into the paint cup causing your "bubbling" problem.
Thanks for your video. I do have a question though. Today I painted a model, I noticed that when I put the second color of my camo pattern there was many very fine dots when I git done. Im at a lost. Any ideas?
D Ringquist What you are describing is commonly referred to as the "orange peel" effect. What is happening is that the paint is drying Before it hits the surface you are attempting to paint. Acrylics are notorious for this because of their super fast drying time. I would recommend you try two things. Lower the pressure a tad and get closer to the model when you spray or try thinning it a bit more to say 60/40 ratio. Hopefully one of these will work for you.
It's splatter, not orange peel. I'll send a photo later when I get home. My pressure is 12-14 Lbs. And I'm using a Badger Krome about a 1/4" from the model
D Ringquist What you are referring to is known as "orange peel" yes. Thin it more would be my recommendation. That .21 mm tip on that Krome is not forgiving it needs to be a tad thinner.
I am new at air brushing I am using Mr color paint an thinner if I use 5 drops if paint I should use 5 drops of thinner so I air brushes smooth an so that it's not to thick????
hi there you seem to know what ur talking about,me being a mere mortal could u help and tell me the best way to use tamiya paint from modelmaster as most of my kits are italeri as im a noob model maker porper.yours gratefully one broke limey.
cr7chop Well it depends entirely on what you use to thin them with. The X-20A thinner is an alcohol based product so it makes it smell somewhat like isopropyl alcohol. If you use their Laquer Thinner it is pretty raunchy and you will need to ventilate or at the very least wear a proper respirator mask. Thank you for taking the time to watch.
Beryllium Mostly but I don't know the exact composition. I ALWAYS use the manufacturers thinner. I don't have time to experiment and I don't want to waste paint trying to find out what works.
I just recently switched over to Tamiya paints and their thinner. Great stuff for airbrushing! 👍🏾👍🏾
Jayded95
Yes because they are alcohol based, so smooth
I used Tamiya on a previous project. Thanx for this thinning video it's going to help me spray more and clean less
Arno 'NoxFord' Steyn No problem I was happy to make the video and thank you for watching.
Just sprayed Lifecolor IJN Deck Tan and its a dream come true after the horrors of Vallejo. I really wanted Vallejo to spray as well as it brushes.
As someone who just switched from Testor's Models Master paints to Tamiya, the Tamiya paints are fantastic and I fully endorse them!! I've been building models for almost 30 years and used to use Model Master enamels. I started using MM acrylics about 20 years ago and for the most part they did well but here in the past 5 or so years Model Master seems to have developed a problem with their formula. I even contacted Testors and told them about this only to receive a snarky reply stating "I wasn't mixing them correctly" which is BS....I always mixed the MM paints using MM thinner to the proper proportions yet here recently I have to fiddle with the mixture to get a good finish. With Tamiya it's add 2 parts paint to 1 part thinner, aim and shoot! No adding thinner, paint, etc. it sprays great every time!
+Phayzyre105 It is that easy! Thanks for watching.
+TacticalJackalope hey um..im probably stupid but ah......can we use thinner that my mom used for her nail polish? (the thinner they use to clear the nail polish)
+Stephen Tay don't, you'll mess your paint and possibly melt the plastic of the model. Nail polish thinner/cleaner is (generally) acetone. Tamiya acrylics are diluted with Isopropyl Alcohol (that's what the Tamiya X20 thinner is), Vallejo acrylics are diluted with distille water or Isopropyl Alcohol.
I think there are model colors that can be thinned with acetone, but I'm not an expert (also, creful, that stuff is toxic).
Renato Ramonda They are also thinned with their lacquer thinner in fact I prefer it. Tamiya acrylics are unique because they are a solvent based acrylic.
Ah, yes, every paint maker also makes their own thinner... I mostly wanted to stop Stephen from trying to use acetone :-D
Yup.....that was fantastic. I counted 21 drops of dark yellow! Only kiddin'! That was super helpful and it's out there on youtube now so hopefully other people will benefit too. Thanx so much for doing that - I could watch your videos all day! They are very informative and helpful but easy to watch and listen to as well. I can't seem to pm you - I still have my laptop which I'm phasing out and using my Samsung Galaxy tablet more and more, so I'll muck about with it and try and pm you. I just tried the hairspray technique on a Stug F/8 and it turned out not bad for a first attempt but have a LOT more work to do on it, weathering wise. Almost finished my Pz III Ausf G and have a few photos I'd like to send ya, so I'll look into the pm thang again. See ya, and thanx again! Oh also, thanx for mentioning my channel and saying nice things about my builds!
Yup. Seen it. Thank for the info anyway.
Very nice bud, very well explained, I think Stevie will not have any trouble mixing and thinning paints any more. :)
Nice Video fella. To anyone looking for an alternative to X-20A thinner and you want your Tamiya to perform better, try Tamiya Yellow top Lacquer Thinner, Mr.color Leveling Thinner or Klean-Strip Lacquer Thinner. Tamiya loves those thinners and does much better than X-20A. I also add a bit of Gloss to my XF-Flat Paints for even better finishes and performance. I use an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS AB and the Tamiya and this AB is a match made in Heaven. Just my experience and opinion. Cheers!
what type of gloss you'd add to make it shine like metallic surface sir?
Another excellent thinner for Tamiya paints is 99% isopropyl alcohol, and much cheaper than Tamiya x20.
Yes I did see the link but since it didn't mention anything about an edited version I assumed it was the same content in HD. Thanks for the condescending reply, much appreciated.
+John Gibson I wasn't being condescending I merely pointed out that perhaps you missed the rather large annotation to call out the V 2.0 video which is also in HD. Now this you may find a bit condescending... the V 2.0 up from V 1.0( V meaning version) implies a modification or new material not just an HD upgrade. You made a bit of an impertinent comment about the length of this video and I was simply informing you that perhaps the new version might be more to your liking. Cheers.
Andy, That Badger paint mixer works great, the impeller shaft cleans so easily. The Master Air-brushes are pretty good also. I've got three of them. I think some people just dis-agree to dis-agree. Excellent tip and vid. - Bob
Thanks Bob I appreciate the nice feedback. You have definitely joined the Chris Moseley school of thought on airbrushes!
Andy, Yes, you're correct. Chris does have me on the do more with less thought process. But, I'm also still learning the how to's of air-brushing. Had too laugh, I thought I was the only one who still an old used t-shirt in the modeling room! Thanks again for the informative vids and tips. - Bob
I'm 62yrs. old and I used to love to build models when I was young. I just recently started trying to use the airbrush and that may be the end of my model building hobby. I thought that I would first learn to shoot acrylics. So all I've used is Tamiya paints and Tamiya thinner. This is the fourth model that I've had to trash due to orange peel. the overall paint jobs really weren't that bad they just had those little bumps. So I haven't even got to the clear coat yet. I really could use some advice. Thx, MacAttack
Hi Michael, "orange peel" is the effect of the paint drying before it hits the surface of the model. This can be caused by several things. Either the paint has not been reduced/thinned enough or you are not close enough to the subject when spraying or you are spraying at too high a pressure. I suggest you purchase a couple of sheets of styrene from your local hobby store to practice on before using paint on a model. Try getting 6" or closer to the subject and make sure you spraying somewhere in the ballpark of 20 psi or so. Tamiya color is very forgiving when using it and can be thinned anywhere from 2:1 to almost 1:1 paint to thinner. I hope this helps.
Thx, TacticalJackalope, I can use all of the advice that I can get. I"ve shown the paint job to a couple of friends and they said " nice paint job" they just don't know any better. My question now is should I go ahead and apply the clear coat now or try to fix it first. It"S Lemon yellow.I messaged The Scale Modeler And he told me to go ahead and clear coat it since it was a light color. I don't know if he's saying fix it before or after clear coat and if so, how. I know that this is all about that learning curve. Thx again, The Mac Attack
I don't think a clear coat will "fix" anything but it doesn't hurt to try I suppose.
I was thinking the same way as you. But the O.P. is so small the paint job really still looks pretty good. I was wondering if maybe I could rub it out with that Novus #2 or something. Maybe I'm just trying to kick a died horse. Thx,M
Why trash because of that? Just polish it out
Hi I also like Tamiya as an airbrushing paint. Life Colour can be a pain through air brush although is excellent for brush painting. There is a site on here though alled International Scale Modeller (UK). A guy Paul I think got someone who works for them to demonstrate how to do properly and said he has no probs now. I believe this is up on youtube. Nice vid.
chaz01br Yes I know them well in fact I have spoken with Paul a couple of times and used to be on the forums pretty regularly. No time any more just keeping my channel going and getting a bit of bench time is hard enough.
I’m from the U.K, I get my pippets from Amazon, you can get 100 pippets for £7.50-10+p&p. You can get 30ml mixing cups with lids cheaply from Amazon too they’re a lot cheaper than branded items, they’re good mixing up a batch of thinned paint if your going to be spraying a good few model parts as they are marked in Millilitre increments.
You're a talented and skilled model painter. Have you actually done a side by side test of the brand name like Tamiya or other commercial acrylic paint thinners to see if they are really that much better than windex, water or acrylic floor wax, which by the way is just the acrylic base without any pigment, and a hardener for durability. You can get the same dilution ratio with all of them. How much are you paying for that bottle of Tamiya thinner. Anyway thanks for all the excellent videos.
BennyCFD I only use the manufacturers thinner or cleaner. I don't have the time to test and experiment and personally don't see the value. I might spend $15-20 a year on thinner and to me that is inconsequential. Thank you for your valuable time in watching and commenting on my video.
Does this also apply to gloss Tamiya paint?
Thanks for the tips for airbrushing. I either aerosol paint using those paint cans from Tamiya or I usually brush paint :).
***** You are very welcome. Perhaps sometime in the future you can give airbrushing a try.
Thanks for posting this was very helpful and inspired me to use my airbrush
surpluscollector Thank you for the kind words and thank you for your valuable time.
yip Tamiya thinners is great! --- go with dark yellow YES! :D
Hi!recently I bough my first airbrush and I don’t know how I thin the enamels( I have a lot of them)for using with airbrush, i’ve seen many videos and I couldn’t get the relationship between thinner/enamel
Thanks for your video,I’ll wait for your answer.
Quick tip
Stir your paint out of the cup and then pour it in the cup
Better results, no larger paint pieces get caught in the nozzle
This is Angel Giraldez technique and it really works
Thanks for the helpful video! Where did you find your black rotating paint trays?
Thanks for this. As I was wondering the same thing about mixing the paint. I am in the uk and also called Steve.
Ayyyy Steve
thank you very much!! this video help me a lot!! keep the good work man!! :D... can you do a video of how to do camouflage for tank or any armed vehicles?? thanks again!!
Went nuts this afternoon. Paasche airbrush. Miller Compressor (old). For 50 years, I used Floquil. Now pretty much forced to use other paints. Used some Model Master Acryl. Would barely come out the airbrush. Actually almost worked better brushing it on. Also had on had one Tru-color, which the last time I used it came flowing out of the airbrush as was, unthinned. That one calls for Acetone to clean up. Today - nothing! Used Pollyscale before with 91% alcohol thinner, worked great, cleaned up great with water, but I did not have military colors. So I had picked up some Model Master but as I said, went bonkers trying to get it to come out the airbrush. So I ordered some more Tamiya, since I at least know how to thin that, thanks to your video. Any ideas on Model Master?
DocLaw172 If these were Model Master Acryl's they are designed to sprayed directly from the bottle without thinning but I haven't used them yet. You might try their thinner...you will find it at your local Hobby Lobby in the model/hobby section.
TacticalJackalope Well, I may be driven crazy, but I won't let it stop me. (sign of true insanity, right?) The painting session was for a Revell ME-262 (Model Master) and an Athearn F7 shell detailed for Pennsylvania (Tru-Color). I'm thinking too it might have been the place I paint was colder (office) and the paint had not warmed up sufficiently. I'll try the MM out of the jar next time, and I have one of those little battery paint spinner things on order. Will report back when I try again.
Realize this is a very old video, but very helpful to me so thanks. I was wondering if you still thin Tamiya paints this way for airbrushing and use the X-20A? Also, do you thin Tamiya for hand brushing small areas and detail? Do you use Tamiya primer, and if so, do you thin it at all?
Tamiya laquer thinner is the way to go,will give you a gunze semi gloss finish!
Jman
Hey, just ran across your video!! This is a great short video that explains a lot about Timaya paints. Thank you so much.
David Muse
Very informative and helpful, your very talented. Keep the vids coming.
Thanks
thank you, that help a great. A NEW BEE AT THIS. its been years.
6.24 two to one. Good vid actually.
Does every company in the US market a product called Patriot something or other?
Hi,
Great little tutorial i`ve found here-thanks for posting it!!
Can i ask how you would do "Snake like" camo lies on an AFV?....Thinking dark Green and Red Brown on a base of Dunklegreb?!!
Cheers,
Andy
It depends really on the effect you want to achieve. German camo patterns of WWII were field applied except for a just a few late war vehicles and they were randomly applied in many ways. This gies you quite a bit of artistic license especially with an airbrush so nothing would really be "wrong" per se. That being said if you want to recreate thin lines then you need to turn the pressure down on your compressor and closer to the subject you are painting.
hey buddy where do you get the tamiya pot holders ? subbed you buddy
Dog will hunt 😜
Check out the band PRIMUS Jesus built my hotrod.
Rc-Nerd The Tamiya paint stand is readily available from just about any hobby store that sells Tamiya accessories.
Dog will hunt.
thats a nice little how to video mate :)
Thanks I hope at least Stevie can benefit from it.
This was pretty helpful! Cheers dude.
Marty2012 You are very welcome thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.
Not a problem dude!
Would be more interesting if you had planed what paint to use and a colour that showed up on the model and halved the time!
This was an interesting video however I don't have the Tamiya thinner I usually thin there paint with distilled water and I haven't had too many issues with that however I am getting ready to try to airbrush a couple of transparent domes with some of the Tamiya transparent color and I'm really not too sure how to be able to coat them with the transparent color so that I get an even finish on it and not lines or a dark spot or here and lighter over there as these will be being lit up what do you suggest for that? Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
what do you use to flat coat your gloss to seal it in?
George Jackson
Will the Vallejo acrylic thinner work well with tamiya paints or not?
what is best for brush painting if you don't have an airbrush..?
Hi question wanted to know where do you buy your paint storage spinner from?
TacticalJackalope, I am hoping you can answer this question. I used your video on thinning Tamiya paint to airbrush a plane. I used this paint because it was the closest that I could find to make the rest of the manufactures paint. My problem is that I discovered the hard way that denatured alcohol will remove this paint. So, do you know of a clear coat that I can use with this paint that won't break it down when applied and protect it from nitro methane or other alcohol based products?
I am assuming this was with an RC aircraft? The X20A thinner of Tamiya is an alcohol based product which is interesting that you have had this problem but if you want to protect the paint there are several products available. You should probably use a lacquer based product. Testors makes a product called "dull coat" that comes in a small aerosol can this might do the trick.
$13 bucks for X-20 thinner, plus $20 for expedited shipping. So far I'm in almost $500( not including models). New to the hobby, I hope I stick with it. Useful video, I chose to go with Tamiya colors :)
+GTPRIME209 Where in the world do you live that you have to pay such prices?
California. I bought it off of Amazon; there were only a few selected sellers, one being from japan and well I wanted faster shipping.
GTPRIME209 Dude...these products are readily available from U.S. stores. Next time I suggest you purchase from Scalehobbyist.com.
www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/browse.php?kw=Tamiya,thinner
Is Tamiya thinner the same as a reg paint thinner in the hardware store for reg paint
How do you panel line kits after painting them? I'm afraid I might ruin the paint job when removing the failed panel lining smudges
always clear coat after each layer of weathering.
Tamiya actually has available in the USA now Panel Line Accent Color. May different colors now (6 I think) I use the black and dark brown. But as he said I only to panel lines and weathering after the clear coats are done.
do you not use a retarder also with your airbrush, or paintbrush ?
Can you mix model color with tamiya color if you run out of paint
great video thanks. am new to airbrushing
+paul wood You are very welcome! Did you watch the new shorter version in HD?
Can i use water to thin my tamiya paint?
so for example when paint ratios require 3:1:1 (3 drops, 1 drop, 1drop) of red, white, black and you want to make enough paint to not go back and mix colors again, will the color always be the same shade if you mix 3 to 1 to 1 as, lets say, 12 to 4 to 4?
ThisNamesNowTaken Well the short answer is...yes! Tamiya makes some nice glass bottles to store pre mixed paint in that are really nice and affordable.
Odd question but what specific paint i need to prime.
Kordell Cunningham Hello and thank you for watching. If you are asking me what type or brand of primer to use then that is a very difficult question to ask. There are many good primers on the market and it would depend what you have access to.
100% isopropyl alcohol can be used to thin Tamiya paint. Cheaper than Tamiya thinner.
I buy maybe one or two bottles of X20A thinner per year so for me I don't see the savings. This is hobby therefore all money spent is discretionary if $12 a year is a problem then I need to find another hobby.
You buy what you want. I'm just letting others who watch this that there is a cheaper option.
Here in Perth the Tamiya thinner is 7 times the price of Isopropyl Alochol.
Crazy enough about the alcohol.. My buddy mixes with windex his work can be seen at pcs collectibles
@@martymcfly3073 I used windex before.... no problem. I forgot where I heard about windex, but it does work.
Is there a reason why you don't just shake the jar of paint?
Hi! Never airbrushed before, but can you use artists tape over an area you've airbrushed? Will the adhesive of the tape peel off the paint when you take it off?
+Doc Von Doom Well, it depends really on the type of paint and how long you gave it to cure. With Vallejo paint no way I would try that but with Tamiya after about 24 hours you bet.
TacticalJackalope Great! Thanks for the info. I'll be sure to pick up some Tamiya at my local hobby store.
Great video! But I swear I can NOT make the 2 to 1 paint to thinner ratio work in my Iwata eclipse OR my paasche H. W the white and both yellow cap tamiya thinners. I find I have to do the reverse, if not even MORE than twice the amount of thinner! Anything less then my nozzle clogs pretty quickly. No idea how ratios can vary so much.
smeosky Stupid question but are you mixing the paint once it is in the cup? also when was the last time you thoroughly cleaned your airbrush?
I clean the airbrush thoroughly after every 5-7 uses maybe? But I almost always mix everything in the cup, stirring w a brush and then back pressure bubble it up to make sure. You think this makes a difference?
What about brushing tamiya paints with paint brushes? Is there a trick to this or are they strictly an airbrush paint?
Don't paint with them, they're an airbrush paint
hey quick question; I recently bought a testors easy air airbrush which is pretty much a aztec airbrush, and I was woundering if I can use tamiya paint with it? can I use laquir thinner from home depot to thin it out?
+Yeshua Flores Yes, any airbrush can spray Tamiya paint thinned properly. No on the hardware store lacquer you Must use Tamiya's lacquer thinner regular lacquer thinner can and will eat plastic.
+TacticalJackalope oh ok thank you!, I'm new to airbrush's so don't know very much
can third party thinners be used?
Are you really supposed to stir it in the airbrush ? When I do that, no matter how long I stir it the airbrush still spits a mix of hard paint and sometimes even just the thinner. Bubbles are also leaking out at the cap...
Dreadenthax Yes it is necessary to properly mix the paint and thinner when they are introduced into the paint cup. If you are seeing paint bubble and come out of the cap then your brush is in serious need of a detail strip and thorough cleaning. It is either completely or partially clogged which is causing air to flow back into the paint cup causing your "bubbling" problem.
Im very new to hobby and wondering is the ratio the same when using primers?
Is tamiya paint water base or oil base
Can you use denatured alcohol?
How do we thin the metallic acrylic paints they offer? (even though they're quite horrible :P)
Same as the others.
Thanks for your video. I do have a question though. Today I painted a model, I noticed that when I put the second color of my camo pattern there was many very fine dots when I git done. Im at a lost. Any ideas?
D Ringquist What you are describing is commonly referred to as the "orange peel" effect. What is happening is that the paint is drying Before it hits the surface you are attempting to paint. Acrylics are notorious for this because of their super fast drying time. I would recommend you try two things. Lower the pressure a tad and get closer to the model when you spray or try thinning it a bit more to say 60/40 ratio. Hopefully one of these will work for you.
It's splatter, not orange peel. I'll send a photo later when I get home.
My pressure is 12-14 Lbs. And I'm using a Badger Krome about a 1/4" from the model
I can't figure out how to get a photo to you to show the problems
D Ringquist What you are referring to is known as "orange peel" yes. Thin it more would be my recommendation. That .21 mm tip on that Krome is not forgiving it needs to be a tad thinner.
I got it! Thinned it a bit more and increased my psi to 20 lbs.
great tip mate
waterloo745 Thanks bud. I appreciate the view and the comment.
I am new at air brushing I am using Mr color paint an thinner if I use 5 drops if paint I should use 5 drops of thinner so I air brushes smooth an so that it's not to thick????
That's a 1:1 ratio which seems a bit much but I don't use that kind of paint. You might want to do some Google searches on the subject.
hi there you seem to know what ur talking about,me being a mere mortal could u help and tell me the best way to use tamiya paint from modelmaster as most of my kits are italeri as im a noob model maker porper.yours gratefully one broke limey.
I thought the video explained it pretty well.
wouldnt using a eye dropper for paint leads lots of wastage, as paint will be adhering to the inner wall of the eye dropper, and dry up eventually
Can i apply Tamiya acrylic with AB over the Vallejo primer ?
Slammer Absolutely with no problem.
TacticalJackalope what about the brush painting of these colors?
hey can tamiya paints be used for automotive work.
+Ross Shaw uh, No
+TacticalJackalope lol
TacticalJackalope 😂😂
I think he mens car kits.
I think he mens car kits.
My airbrush constantly sprayes air even when youre not pulling the trigger
Then it done be broke!
is it the same ration for tamaya flat base? hope u can help thx
I've never used that product but it is probably safe to assume since it is in the same range that would indeed be the case.
Try with Tamiya acrylics using Metho and water 2 to 1. Remember Tamiya acrylics are not true acrylic paints.
how are the fumes using the Tamiya acrylics?
cr7chop Well it depends entirely on what you use to thin them with. The X-20A thinner is an alcohol based product so it makes it smell somewhat like isopropyl alcohol. If you use their Laquer Thinner it is pretty raunchy and you will need to ventilate or at the very least wear a proper respirator mask. Thank you for taking the time to watch.
Just shot some of the x20A and its not a noticeable smell at all, still wore a mask and vented it out a door. Thanks!
dunno if its only me that notice the tamiya xf-1 flat black is too thick and you need to put more thinner on it?
I have not had this problem but just add more thinner until you get that "skim milk" consistency.
My paint rubbs off why ..even with primer
Great vid - thanks. Could have skipped the first 6 minutes though! :)
Did you not see the gigantic link in the beginning to the newer video?
so the tamiya x-20 thinner is just alcohol?
Beryllium Mostly but I don't know the exact composition. I ALWAYS use the manufacturers thinner. I don't have time to experiment and I don't want to waste paint trying to find out what works.
TacticalJackalope I'm getting into air brushing right now, I'm going with the X-20. Thank you for the reply.
What size are the bottles of paint?
obadiah7771 Tamiya Color paint comes in 23ml and 10ml sizes.
10 thinner and 20 paint 🎨
how long does it take for Tamiya paint to dry?
D Ringquist Minutes
Thanks, I've been told from 1 hour to 12+hours.
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Can i use a normal alcohol ?
+Baron rojo No
not as yet but will do later today...
2 paint 1 thinner x-20A
What is that spray name? I want it
+Mac Squiz This was no spray it was a bottle of paint.
TacticalJackalope 7:54 did you know what that tools name?
Mac Squiz The airbrush?
TacticalJackalope Yes! I checked it on Google, and that what I mean. Thx dude :D
+Mac Squiz This is the video you want.
th-cam.com/video/xDp4LjX2X_4/w-d-xo.html
Get on with it...
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Do you use the same mix ratio for thinning a clear coat?