Operations | Switching with a Caboose
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- We're going back in time to the... early 80's... and seeing what it's like to switch out an industry with a caboose on our local. Todays power are a couple of Athearn Genesis GP7u's and we're bringing along a Santa Fe caboose to help with the switching.
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I bet Torres will really like his new party wagon.
My dad worked at a citrus packing house in Placentia and back in the early '70's and he got me a job during the summer where I loaded trucks, containers, and rail cars with cartons of oranges or grapefruit. Once after loading two refrigerator cars Santa Fe showed up with two locomotives and a caboose and backed into the siding hooking up the two reefers behind the caboose. They didn't bother setting off the caboose to hook up the reefers in between. As a life long OC resident I really like your layout, it really brings back some good memories.
One possible alternative would be to
go ahead and make the run around
move, then shove the whole train
down to Jack’s. Make the car swap
and then your outbound train is
ready to go. Make another run around
move to get the tank on the other end
(while leaving the train by Jack’s).
Shove the tank into it’s spot and tie
back on the train and go!
My god i remember a caboose just like this off Valencia and Highland in Fullerton CA. It sat there for years!
…toasty, yeah…you can say that again!! Great video!
Watching the caboose on the train brought back some memories. In the switching moves I saw in the past the caboose was seldom setout on it's own. The caboose stayed on the rear of the until the last car was pulled off. Then after that move, the next car was hooked up. On shove moves they would be shoving the caboose.
I watched a lot of locals over the years while unloading boxcars of cattle feed.
Glad to see you using the caboose! A forgotten railroad item in today's World.
Thanks,like seeing the caboose. Great job. B
Thanks 👍
Love that Santa Fe red caboose, I had one when I had H.O. before. I plan to get another one soon. Iam doing H.O. as a second modeling scale. I do Lionel for my main scale.
you could get crew members from miniprints. not sure how easy they would be to add to the cars and loco, but better than a penny. maybe!
Some companies still use a caboose when they switch industries. I think they call them shoving platforms or something like that.
Right. They use them when they need to make long reversing movements so the conductor can have somewhere to stand, rather than having to hang on to a ladder for miles.
SRY in British Columbia uses cabooses often
Thanks Rick great video as usual thank you
Really nice!
I still use a caboose now and again if I'm running a 1970s train. In N scale it's hard to find them without a broken stove pipe.
Hey! A caboose! Now Torres can enjoy his tacos in comfort!
Oh yes!
Enjoy your videos! I know you don’t
care to always be prototypical and just
want to have fun; I just had to say this,
lol, but they probably would have buried that tank between the two box
cars. That would add a little more
switching at both ends, lol!
I stumbled upon this video and really enjoyed it. Great scenery and the photo backdrops really do extend the layout size. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fun OP session. I think in that scenario one crewman would stay back a Surfer's Outlet and do the coupling and the other guy would man the switch on the other side of the road.
Another great OP’s video! Who cares if it’s not prototypical, it’s your late, so have fun with it! Plus, sometimes it’s cool to go old school!
I used to railfan the Santa Fe Pasadena Sub local at the brewery in Irwindale on my lunch breaks. I think that still had a caboose in the mid 1980s. To the best of my memory, since they had a lot of switching to do there, they simply found an out of the way place to spot it and didn't include it in the routine switching moves.
I was just in SoCal last weekend for the Long Beach GP, and have to mention the following since these locations are represented on your layout: I stayed at the Best Western in Westminster (apparently it's a tradition with some of the corner crews), and last Thursday we had dinner at a Mexican restaurant in Stanton (which I don't recommend; the food was not good).
Jesus Saves Bro! That's one of the most realistic personal layouts I've seen! Awesome job. I love the photo backdrops. That's the way I want to do mine so it gives me great ideas. My first layout will be a bookshelf RR representing the line between SB and SLO where I live. That was great.
Loved this different Ops session, thanks
Great show. Got to love those GP7u's. There is a former ATSF one in my own back yard.
Great video, really like you using the caboose in your op..
Thanks!
Some railroads had telephones in a caboose that could be plugged into a private line to the company’s switch board. Neat stuff…
Time to add an A/C window unit to cool it down.
NICE
Something you might want to incorporate in your next caboose session: the rules for hazmat and cabooses are the same as for locos. The real railroad wouldn't put that placarded tank car next to the caboose.
Actually, though, your "non-prototypical mish-mash" of cars looks legit. The Railbox is in the early livery with the larger logo is good for any time about 1980, when it was built. The BN-ex-ALM box car is from the right era -- it has the KarTrak barcode, so it was running in the 1970s onwards. That specific tank car is probably too young, but the general design is appropriate for the time. It wouldn't have had safety stripes in those days.
this move would be exempt from the haz mat train placement restrictions because he's engaged in switching operations... if you are performing switching or classifying operations, train placement restrictions don't apply
@@25mfd Right, but that doesn't apply on the journey from the yard down to the end of the line, surely?
@@beeble2003 good question... my chicago and northwestern haz mat guide says this... [for purposes of haz mat documentation and train placement requirements, a movement should be considered a " train" IF it is to go outside a yard more than one mile or otherwise requires an initial terminal air test]... then i took a peek at the air test requirements... yard and transfer moves of less than 20 miles are required to perform an air test... and ALL U.S. railroads have similar or the same wording because they are all federally regulated which is a cute way of saying they all sing from the same hymnal for interchange and safety purposes
I have a Santa fe sd9
Cabooses (Or as Tom and Jerry calls them: Cabeeses!) Are seeing increased use in modern days for many things, the biggest of which is the folks at the STB have MANDATED NO SHOVING operations under any circumstances without a caboose. Lots of railroads choose to ignore this, but as more shove moves cause problems, more railroads are taking it seriously.
Not sure what you mean by saying that cabooses are mandatory for all shoving operations. If that were the case, it would be illegal to put a car onto any stub track without either pulling it in and trapping the locomotive, or pushing it in and trapping a caboose.
@@beeble2003 no, obviously not for that of course, but if you're planning on taking a string of cars... Railroads got hella lazy for a while there and started shoving long trains without anything on the end, and derailments and all sorts of stuff went wrong... At first they tried to outlaw shoving operations and like you pointed out, that could never work, so there are all sorts of rules now...
@@greeneyedggirl But putting a caboose on the end of a train does nothing to prevent derailments. And it's always been a requirement to have somebody watching the end of a train during a shove. That can be either from the ground, on a very short move, or riding on the last car. The only reason for putting a caboose on the end is to make it easier for the conductor, so they can stand on the caboose deck, rather than hanging off a ladder.
Torres is going to be mad at you for going over there without him.
The reason I run 1970's is so I can run a caboose!!! It aint a real train without a caboose
Really enjoyed this video because of the caboose ops. I bought Lance Mindheim's Modern Era Switching Layout book you had recommended way back. Really enjoying it and of course he does not cover caboose ops. I model N and Z scale and use the caboose for the 1973 era. It is a challenge and makes you do a lot more planning. The idea of two ground crew (conductor/brake man) works good even without a caboose to spice things up. Couple of questions if you have time: what type of camera do you use? Is there a tutorial online that helps you understand how video edit when you are ready to put s session together? Keep up the great work! Happy Saturday!!
Thanks. I use a Sony ZV1 camera. as for video editing it depends on the software you use. there are a lot of how to videos on yt for whatever video software you have available.
Very cool! I usually always run cabooses! Do you ever have any rail expansion and contraction issues running in a hot garage? Also, you called that a chopstick that your using to uncouple cars. Is that what works best? I’ve been using a pencil ✏️ and it’s not too good. Great switching video! Love the layout? Santa Fe blue and yellow is my favorite color scheme!
no issues with the heat. I have some spaces in the rails for expansion. and a sharpened stick will work better then a pencil.
@@socalscalemodels Thank you!
I like the Red and silver warbonnet myself
Live near Union Pacific Texas Eagle and Sunset limited route Pomona CA. Before covid 19 I would watch trains at downtown Pomona Metrolink riverside line station. Unfortunately More security not allowed without a ticket Red tape. I have to settle on you tube.
We have a industrial spur like this model between Chino CA and Pomona CA I understand was Southern Pacific loop only East in service West thru Ontario removed and ripped up. I don't know where it goes Home depot and Wonder bread factory not Used must be a few customers left.
To me a caboose "completes" a train I don't care for modern era stuff that's why my layout will be set in the late 50s early 60s
What happened to Mr. Torres
25:22 Aha! So, Torres was apparently hiding inside the caboose after all, eh?
He surreptitiously _deduced_
That a _recluse_ caboose
Was the perfect _excuse_
For his amorous _misuse_
OMG, it's Dr _Seuss!_
What kind of camera are you using to film these ops sessions?
I use a Sony ZV1
Do you always use multiple engines to switch your latout?
Not always, but It does help with any 'dirty' spots or trouble turnouts I come across.
what scale id this?
HO scale.
@@socalscalemodels thanks
Does this Caboose make me look fat??
Some companies still use a caboose when they switch industries. I think they call them shoving platforms or something like that.
Yes shoving platforms.