Thank you very much for this video, I enjoyed watching it as a nice Idea for my planning of a local switching layout of what I am planning to build up. The town where I live is Luebeck at northern germany it had in the past several interesting inner city switching arrangements of different railway supplied customers and harbour docksides landing and warehouse areas. Before the local railway changed the location of their busy too small Union Station it built a new bigger one outside the inner city and opened the new Union Station in 1908. The old Union Station of 1852/53 had been deconstructed in 1931. A big inner City slaughterhouse generated a lot of daily shipping of up to 60 cars loaded with canned food and slaughtered fresh and cooled meat of pigs, sheep and cattles in the year of 1912. Around the year of 1908 are probably shipped around 30 to 45 cars daily in addition to the other freight customers at the inner and outer city area. I am still figuring out of what all is possible to create an es interesting as yourself shunting layout and your trackplans are very helpful for creating own ideas. Thank you so very much.
Thank you for the kind words. If you have a prototype that you want to model, the answers will be in that track plan. If you are stuck, or would like me to review your ideas please just reach out to me.
This one was for me, thanks again Bart. So pleased with the end result, you really helped to get my ideas out and onto a plan! I had a rough idea but this is so much better than anything I had in my head 😁 Adding the design element of the C Train was a great move and will really add some interest to the scene and one that hadn't even occurred to me 👍
Hi Corey, this design was done in N scale. From the top of my head it is 15ft long. You can get the design from my patreon website. Or have a look at my website for something tailored. Www.modelrailroaddesigns.com
Switching shelf layouts. Planning ahead? 😉😆 You've packed a lot of industries and track necessities into a pretty small space. A well thought out plan for a tough small location. And there would be dozens of significantly different set outs and scenarios to dream up and operate. The thing that still bugs me about model railroading generally is that we build a track plan (lets say a good one like this one), and then have to think up 100s of relatively different situations to run on what often must be a very truncated rail system - like this one. On large layouts, the different op plans can be significant, but on small layouts, less so. I can imagine the operations ideas running thin before the scenery is done. For someone who prefers ops to building scenery no one can tell from real pictures, this could be a problem. It can take years to make a truly remarkable HO world. So how do ops people keep the ideas fresh on a well planned but smaller model? Or is that why we see so many operational layouts with minimal scenery?
All good questions. There are a lot of different aspects to this. Not becoming too long winded: Find out what motivates you in the hobby. If you like to make perfect scenery, start small. If you want long sweeping trains, go big and keep it simple. Also keep in mind the time frame and resources in at hand. If you have a lot of friends who like to help and operate trains, go for that basement layout. If you are by yourself and want to have a finished layout in 2 years, start in a corner of the basement. If you want long sweeping trains and detailed scenery, then you have to choose, or take your time. I discuss these topics and more in detail in my video #84 th-cam.com/video/CuBH8pcgX5s/w-d-xo.html Secondly, If your design is good it will give you enjoyment for many many years. The same track plan gave me a lot of diverse and sometimes difficult operations. Changing and adapting the way I operated also provided for additional challenges as I progressed through that aspect of the hobby. Every operating session also felt different due to the flexibility of the Car Card system that I used. You can adjust the amount of traffic and complexity of moves per operating session. Hope this helps. If you want to double check your current track plan, or want to get started on the right foot. www.dubaitrains.com can help.
This one was for me, and I'm going to be using a piece of software I found called STS, Shipper driven Traffic Simulator, which is a database that will generate the traffic for my layout as I too am mainly interested in operations. There will be scenery and buildings too though, I do intended this to be a complete layout someday, although may take me a while! I requested lots of track and industries to keep me occupied during ops sessions and I think that Bart really nailed it with so much scope for varied operations 👍
@@tommofpv6497 I am amazed how much is in that space. Bart does have a talent for rail ops planning and a great trove of solid videos on ops. I have no doubt you'll enjoy it. My interests go more toward the constructing, electrical/electronic and scenery end. So I'm still coming to grips with how ops works and how it can remain interesting over years (Like you, I don't want to built something fast, run out of things to do, then toss it and build again). Bart's interest is planning & operations more so, but not at the expense of, building & scenery. I know I'll have to take his advice and read some books on the ops subject. Have fun!
@@frankhellman6879 Its all a compromise and balance in the end. I too want great scenery but honestly (to myself) enjoy ops more then construction. For the scenery i am using the diorama i made as benchmark. I believe that looks above average good. Although there is still room for improvement. Best of all i used fast and cheap scenery techniques. Because my layout is big and i do want to have a shot at finishing it. Final note to Frank, as the scenery progresses you just want to run more trains as it keeps on looking better and better! Regardless of interesting ops or not.
Another wonderful layout design that makes great use of the limited space. Bravo!
Thanks Ryan. Starting a project I never know what the end result will be.
I enjoy these design videos.
Spread the good word!
Great design. Always enjoyable. Thanks for sharing. Dave
Welcome Dave. Always good to hear from you.
Thank you very much for this video, I enjoyed watching it as a nice Idea for my planning of a local switching layout of what I am planning to build up.
The town where I live is Luebeck at northern germany it had in the past several interesting inner city switching arrangements of different railway supplied customers and harbour docksides landing and warehouse areas.
Before the local railway changed the location of their busy too small Union Station it built a new bigger one outside the inner city and opened the new Union Station in 1908.
The old Union Station of 1852/53 had been deconstructed in 1931.
A big inner City slaughterhouse generated a lot of daily shipping of up to 60 cars loaded with canned food and slaughtered fresh and cooled meat of pigs, sheep and cattles in the year of 1912. Around the year of 1908 are probably shipped around 30 to 45 cars daily in addition to the other freight customers at the inner and outer city area.
I am still figuring out of what all is possible to create an es interesting as yourself shunting layout and your trackplans are very helpful for creating own ideas. Thank you so very much.
Thank you for the kind words. If you have a prototype that you want to model, the answers will be in that track plan. If you are stuck, or would like me to review your ideas please just reach out to me.
Great video, thanks for sharing
Thanks PM36. Love the channel.
This one was for me, thanks again Bart. So pleased with the end result, you really helped to get my ideas out and onto a plan! I had a rough idea but this is so much better than anything I had in my head 😁 Adding the design element of the C Train was a great move and will really add some interest to the scene and one that hadn't even occurred to me 👍
Thank you for the kind words. It is always good to hear a client is happy with my work and final result. It was another fun project my side!
thank you for video
Thanks RL.
Great design
What was the size of this layout? N or HO scale?
Hi Corey, this design was done in N scale. From the top of my head it is 15ft long. You can get the design from my patreon website. Or have a look at my website for something tailored.
Www.modelrailroaddesigns.com
Switching shelf layouts. Planning ahead? 😉😆
You've packed a lot of industries and track necessities into a pretty small space. A well thought out plan for a tough small location. And there would be dozens of significantly different set outs and scenarios to dream up and operate.
The thing that still bugs me about model railroading generally is that we build a track plan (lets say a good one like this one), and then have to think up 100s of relatively different situations to run on what often must be a very truncated rail system - like this one. On large layouts, the different op plans can be significant, but on small layouts, less so. I can imagine the operations ideas running thin before the scenery is done.
For someone who prefers ops to building scenery no one can tell from real pictures, this could be a problem. It can take years to make a truly remarkable HO world. So how do ops people keep the ideas fresh on a well planned but smaller model? Or is that why we see so many operational layouts with minimal scenery?
All good questions. There are a lot of different aspects to this. Not becoming too long winded:
Find out what motivates you in the hobby. If you like to make perfect scenery, start small. If you want long sweeping trains, go big and keep it simple. Also keep in mind the time frame and resources in at hand. If you have a lot of friends who like to help and operate trains, go for that basement layout. If you are by yourself and want to have a finished layout in 2 years, start in a corner of the basement.
If you want long sweeping trains and detailed scenery, then you have to choose, or take your time. I discuss these topics and more in detail in my video #84 th-cam.com/video/CuBH8pcgX5s/w-d-xo.html
Secondly, If your design is good it will give you enjoyment for many many years. The same track plan gave me a lot of diverse and sometimes difficult operations. Changing and adapting the way I operated also provided for additional challenges as I progressed through that aspect of the hobby. Every operating session also felt different due to the flexibility of the Car Card system that I used. You can adjust the amount of traffic and complexity of moves per operating session.
Hope this helps. If you want to double check your current track plan, or want to get started on the right foot. www.dubaitrains.com can help.
This one was for me, and I'm going to be using a piece of software I found called STS, Shipper driven Traffic Simulator, which is a database that will generate the traffic for my layout as I too am mainly interested in operations. There will be scenery and buildings too though, I do intended this to be a complete layout someday, although may take me a while!
I requested lots of track and industries to keep me occupied during ops sessions and I think that Bart really nailed it with so much scope for varied operations 👍
@@tommofpv6497 Happy you are happy! Thanks for the good words.
@@tommofpv6497 I am amazed how much is in that space. Bart does have a talent for rail ops planning and a great trove of solid videos on ops. I have no doubt you'll enjoy it.
My interests go more toward the constructing, electrical/electronic and scenery end. So I'm still coming to grips with how ops works and how it can remain interesting over years (Like you, I don't want to built something fast, run out of things to do, then toss it and build again). Bart's interest is planning & operations more so, but not at the expense of, building & scenery. I know I'll have to take his advice and read some books on the ops subject. Have fun!
@@frankhellman6879 Its all a compromise and balance in the end. I too want great scenery but honestly (to myself) enjoy ops more then construction.
For the scenery i am using the diorama i made as benchmark. I believe that looks above average good. Although there is still room for improvement. Best of all i used fast and cheap scenery techniques. Because my layout is big and i do want to have a shot at finishing it.
Final note to Frank, as the scenery progresses you just want to run more trains as it keeps on looking better and better! Regardless of interesting ops or not.