Just finished replacing my starter clutch,I'm not the most mechanicaly inclined person out there but this video gave me the confidence to do it myself and it turned out great,I'm very proud of myself lol Thanks for posting the video!
Very good video understood everything my turn to work on mine I also have a question I have a 01 raptor 660 and now it's starting to leak oil behind the chain is there a video that I can see to change out that seal?? Please help thanks
This video would have been nice about 4 months earlier. I searched all over and couldn't find an install video. I ended up getting an L&L extreme starter clutch and got it all installed. The only thing is now its leaking oil so I guess I need to get a new gasket.
***** There is one large spring that goes around the outside of all little cams that will get weak or break. Then some of the little cams start to slip and start tearing up the surface on the gear hub. The wear will accelerate from there. Other than metal shavings in your oil you wont be able to see anything unless you remove the starter clutch and inspect it. It will make a different noise and will have trouble engaging all the time.
I have a similar issue with my 03 660. only the starter wheel will only turn freely forward and itll have a hard time back. (I used a scredriver to move it back no damage just used 2 hands) I put a new starter thinking it was that since the previous owner got a new starter clutch and wheel set up BUT as soom as I put my new starter on and everything back together it would make my starter stuck so I did the stupid thing of bump starting it only to find out the wheel was pushing my starter back and made a little metal shaving mess in there. Any help would or comments would be awesome I keep looking around for answers and nobody seems to have ever had he problem I have. I have made 2 oil changes ever since my electric start gave out and have never found metal gush of any kind in my oil thankfully so I hope its something minimum. HELP?!? IM GETTING BORED OF BUMP STARTING AND I MISS RIDDING
Find someone who has already worked on a bunch -- or a dealer even - you just may be much better off spending the money now rather than later - PERIOD !
I was making them just for the 660 because they are so difficult to remove. Not sure you will find one like that for anything else. Should be some adjustable Automotive ones that will work.
What all do I order. Starter clutch is bad do I order the one way bearing do I order the whole thing with the gear and do I need some kind of special flywheel tool
You should order the kit to replace it all. The gear is always bad by the time it quits working. A puller of some kind will be needed. The ones sold specific for the raptor work well
when i go to pull the flywheel everything spins with it? is that what i need a strap wrench for? i dont understand the use for it in ur video? pls help thx
llextreme ahh got it, thanks for the quick response! one more thing, would u say gear lube is necessary or can i use some oil i have in the bike already to lubricate the bearing and gear?
+Jeffrey Wheeler You can get the clutch from my dealer the link raptor one way. At this time we only have the clutch for that model and don't stock the gears.
what are the signs of a bad starter clutch? I dont know too much about bikes but my 2003 wr450f recently stopped turning on. The kick start is stuck all the way up, moves freely a couple inches than is jammed. The electric start just clicks and doesnt do anything. And I have a rekluse z-start clutch so I can not roll start the bike. I do not know what to do. I live in a small town off the road system and there is no shops here that work on dirtbikes.
Signs of a starter clutch going out are the starter spinning without the clutch engaging and turning over the motor. Sometimes it is intermittent or spins for a moment then grabs. It sounds like you have a different issue other than the starter clutch.
Sounds about like a locked up motor to me if the kick or electric start won't turn the engine. I mean kick starts always move easy then get to a real tough spot as the piston compresses so if you've never kick started a bike before maybe you just didn't know what to expect? Usually you get them to the tough spot then jump with full body weight up into it to crank the motor over. Some bikes have a compressing release you can use that makes kick starting easier but it's possible for these to get stuck and make you loose a little compression which I had happen once on a Honda 3 wheeler. But on a 450 you may need to use it. Compression release should be a button or something right there on the head usually.
+llextreme Thanks for the quick response. 2 more questions...when replacing the one-way, is it a given that the starter gear needs to be replaced? I believe mine looks ok but I do see some burn marks near the holes. Also, what solution do you use to clean the screws? Thanks...by the way, great video...it helped me decide to give it a shot to replace it myself...quoted $700+ by my local repair shop...ouch!
+Ed Sterling If clutch has symptoms of going out the gear is most likely bad. Look at the hub on the gear ( where the starter clutch rides) it is what goes bad. It needs to be smooth and not chewed up at all. I tried to show that at one point in the video hard to see though. Just use a solvent to remove the oil. I just used gas.
i try turning it over, starter works fine. when it grabs the gear it will crank the motor over and when it doesn’t grab or slips/clicks nothing happens. the machine is in mint shape except for this problem🙁
Is that what is wrong with mine you think ? Here is a link to what mine sounds like. The battery is good and so is the cdi. th-cam.com/video/dtBRzaT1vqs/w-d-xo.html
@llextreme Mine is doing the exact same thing. But it happened all the sudden except for a couple times right after starting going in gear i did hear a short grind. Should i get the whole starter clutch Kit.
Just finished replacing my starter clutch,I'm not the most mechanicaly inclined person out there but this video gave me the confidence to do it myself and it turned out great,I'm very proud of myself lol Thanks for posting the video!
You make everything look smooth and easy! Awesome job ! Thank you !
Very good video understood everything my turn to work on mine
I also have a question I have a 01 raptor 660 and now it's starting to leak oil behind the chain is there a video that I can see to change out that seal?? Please help thanks
This video would have been nice about 4 months earlier. I searched all over and couldn't find an install video. I ended up getting an L&L extreme starter clutch and got it all installed. The only thing is now its leaking oil so I guess I need to get a new gasket.
Great video it helped me every step of the way. Actually would find it very simple if I had to do it again. Thanks for the knowledge
where do the marks go on a raptor 660 on the flywheel? what is the proper placement for the magnet strip on the outside?
is the flywheel puller needed or is there a way to do it without it?
could you guys please consider making a one way for the 700 current raptor? Oem are still faulty to this day, yamaha cant figure it out.
Thanks, showing the shear key was helpful, mine shattered when I was pulling the wheel.
HELP PLEASE --------in min 22:23 , the thing he have in hand , the single cogwheel ,that goes there in the middle, how is it called?
Do you need to drain your oil
nice video, i thought it was totally understandable. glad i checked it out before i did this. not near as bad as i anticipated
salutare atvul kymco kxr 250 este chinezerie ??
Una pregunta
De cuantos imanes el el flywheel de la raptor 660 2004 de 12 o 18
I parked it a year ago or so and I need to get back on it!!
so....time to fix. Thanks
Top video, could have done with this when I done mine. Thanks :)
How do you know what to do
I wonder if the washer plate behind the starter gear is only applicable to the years that used the bronze bearing?
There is no difference in the gears dimensionally.
so what is it that goes wrong with the original? mine needs changing but I would like to know what I am looking for. thanks
***** There is one large spring that goes around the outside of all little cams that will get weak or break. Then some of the little cams start to slip and start tearing up the surface on the gear hub. The wear will accelerate from there. Other than metal shavings in your oil you wont be able to see anything unless you remove the starter clutch and inspect it. It will make a different noise and will have trouble engaging all the time.
I have a similar issue with my 03 660. only the starter wheel will only turn freely forward and itll have a hard time back. (I used a scredriver to move it back no damage just used 2 hands) I put a new starter thinking it was that since the previous owner got a new starter clutch and wheel set up BUT as soom as I put my new starter on and everything back together it would make my starter stuck so I did the stupid thing of bump starting it only to find out the wheel was pushing my starter back and made a little metal shaving mess in there. Any help would or comments would be awesome I keep looking around for answers and nobody seems to have ever had he problem I have. I have made 2 oil changes ever since my electric start gave out and have never found metal gush of any kind in my oil thankfully so I hope its something minimum. HELP?!? IM GETTING BORED OF BUMP STARTING AND I MISS RIDDING
Find someone who has already worked on a bunch -- or a dealer even - you just may be much better off spending the money now rather than later - PERIOD !
Were did you get your starter clutch puller I can only find them for a 660 I need one for a 350
I was making them just for the 660 because they are so difficult to remove. Not sure you will find one like that for anything else. Should be some adjustable Automotive ones that will work.
next time instead of music you could explain what you're doing. always more helpful
what was the liquid he used at 6:02
@@jacehilty2032 looks like gas
@@TuttleScott I figured, thanks
@@jacehilty2032 you want the bolts clean for the lock tight
What all do I order. Starter clutch is bad do I order the one way bearing do I order the whole thing with the gear and do I need some kind of special flywheel tool
You should order the kit to replace it all. The gear is always bad by the time it quits working. A puller of some kind will be needed. The ones sold specific for the raptor work well
What is the torque spec on the clutch Allen screws?
69cbr Clutch to flywheel 11 ft/lbs or 16 N/mFlywheel to crank 110 ft/lbs or 150 N/m
I live in Maryland and looking for a qualified mechanic to do this for my 01 Raptor near BWI.
Thank u sir
holy shit, did you use enough thread locker??? My god, you should use no more than 1 DROP.
If you find metal shaving in the magnet what Could be cause that bike running fine cranks every start
A stock starter clutch can shave metal for a while before it finally fails.
Whats the other tool called? The one with the bolts?
That is a flywheel puller specifically made for the 660 raptor
Bro please help me out with the name of the little piece 2:54 minute that you had in your fingers.. is that little piece important for the raptor ?
That is the woodruff key for the flywheel. Yes very important.
when i go to pull the flywheel everything spins with it? is that what i need a strap wrench for? i dont understand the use for it in ur video? pls help thx
Putting the bike in gear will help as will the chain clamp.
Will need chain clamp to torque it back on for sure.
llextreme ahh got it, thanks for the quick response! one more thing, would u say gear lube is necessary or can i use some oil i have in the bike already to lubricate the bearing and gear?
tehlows I just use the motor oil on all the surfaces.
changed starter clutch and bearings and when i torque it down gear wont turn ?
Tim D info
I ended up turning the one way bearing retaining ring 180 degrees and it worked fine probably due to bad manufacturing
Great method, but I probably would have only used blue thread lock instead of the red. Awesome vid still.
I know it's been 8 years, but has it gone out yet?
No longer have it. Would be interesting to get a thread going to see the average life span.
What is that thing with thr chain?
It's called a locking chain clamp
Flywheel but just spins on my xt600. How do I get the nut off without damaging
Should be able to keep it from spinning with the locking chain clamp and impact it off.
@@llextreme ok thanks
@@llextreme I'm just reading a lot of how difficult these can be because of the 80ftpd torque spec
Have considered it, but havent heard of it being much of a problem. Will look into it again.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
whats the chain tool called?
It is called a locking chain clamp.
Bought this one at harbor freight for 10 bucks
oh thanks man, its time for me to go to harbor freight
How much different is a raptor 350 gonna be? 2005.
Have not done one myself but after watching a flywheel removal video they look about the same to me.
+llextreme can I get the parts from your website?
+Jeffrey Wheeler
You can get the clutch from my dealer the link raptor one way. At this time we only have the clutch for that model and don't stock the gears.
how can i buy this clutch for my raptor 660r (2005)
Order the one for the 04 thru 05 model year. There was a design change in 04-05 from 01-03.
thanks bro got u
Would this also fit the 2001s?
Quick question, anyone know the torque specs?
Clutch to flywheel 11 ft/lbs or 16 N/mFlywheel to crank 110 ft/lbs or 150 N/m
@@llextreme thank you so much, i am ready to give it a try as soon as my parts come in, ill let you know how it goes.
what are the signs of a bad starter clutch? I dont know too much about bikes but my 2003 wr450f recently stopped turning on. The kick start is stuck all the way up, moves freely a couple inches than is jammed. The electric start just clicks and doesnt do anything. And I have a rekluse z-start clutch so I can not roll start the bike. I do not know what to do. I live in a small town off the road system and there is no shops here that work on dirtbikes.
Signs of a starter clutch going out are the starter spinning without the clutch engaging and turning over the motor. Sometimes it is intermittent or spins for a moment then grabs. It sounds like you have a different issue other than the starter clutch.
Sounds about like a locked up motor to me if the kick or electric start won't turn the engine. I mean kick starts always move easy then get to a real tough spot as the piston compresses so if you've never kick started a bike before maybe you just didn't know what to expect? Usually you get them to the tough spot then jump with full body weight up into it to crank the motor over. Some bikes have a compressing release you can use that makes kick starting easier but it's possible for these to get stuck and make you loose a little compression which I had happen once on a Honda 3 wheeler. But on a 450 you may need to use it. Compression release should be a button or something right there on the head usually.
What's the ring at 12:50 called?
That is the thrust washer that goes behind the starter gear.
Ok thanks, do you by chance have a P/N or know a website where I can get one? Been looking for about 3 days now and I cant find one anywhere
Bike Bandit lists it as a
washer plate
Pn. 1267748
Ok thanks
No gaskets
What's in the red bottle?
lock tight
+llextreme Thanks for the quick response. 2 more questions...when replacing the one-way, is it a given that the starter gear needs to be replaced? I believe mine looks ok but I do see some burn marks near the holes. Also, what solution do you use to clean the screws? Thanks...by the way, great video...it helped me decide to give it a shot to replace it myself...quoted $700+ by my local repair shop...ouch!
+Ed Sterling
If clutch has symptoms of going out the gear is most likely bad.
Look at the hub on the gear ( where the starter clutch rides) it is what goes bad. It needs to be smooth and not chewed up at all. I tried to show that at one point in the video hard to see though.
Just use a solvent to remove the oil. I just used gas.
+llextreme Thank you very much...I just placed my order with L&L!
+Ed Sterling
you welcome and thank you Ed
what is the oil he is lubing everything with
it is just motor oil
is this what you fix when starter is engaging but slipping gears somewhere ?
Starter is always engaged. If the starter is turning and the motor is not. The starter clutch is most likely bad
i try turning it over, starter works fine.
when it grabs the gear it will crank the motor over and when it doesn’t grab or slips/clicks nothing happens.
the machine is in mint shape except for this problem🙁
@@Surreyredneck it is definitely the starter clutch and the starter gear will be toast as well
is that a 2002????
2001
Good vid but no torque specs or nothing no explanation for the work you are performing
Visit www.raptoroneway.com to purchase your L&L Extreme starter clutch.
Is that what is wrong with mine you think ? Here is a link to what mine sounds like. The battery is good and so is the cdi.
th-cam.com/video/dtBRzaT1vqs/w-d-xo.html
Chad McConnell Have you had trouble starting for a while or all at once.
A while
Chad McConnell
Most likely the starter clutch. It will also make metal shavings as it destroys itself.
OK thanks for the info and heads up
@llextreme Mine is doing the exact same thing. But it happened all the sudden except for a couple times right after starting going in gear i did hear a short grind. Should i get the whole starter clutch Kit.