A Message to Someone With Suicidal Thoughts
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- Dr. Peterson emphasizes the importance of seeking help and reaching out to others when you're in a dark place. Even though it may be difficult, confiding in someone who cares about you or, if necessary, seeking professional assistance can be the first step toward healing. Remember, you don't have to carry the weight of despair alone.
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Sometimes when you're suicidal repeatedly for decades, you pray that it gets so bad this time that you actually find the strength to do it once and for all and never have to face it again.
@@thesnowman7715 I understand this feeling. My dogs have kept me going the last 10 years and sometimes I wonder what happens when I lose them, what reason could there be to hang around when ending it seems so appealing? So then I thought, how can I be better for them in the meantime, just another month, just another year. Knowing I always have the option to leave, can I find anything which makes it less miserable in the meantime? What I found was in fact plenty of reason to keep going til the end. If you are interested in what I found, it was a spiritual awakening journey. It all started with watching near death experiencer interview after interview (Next Level Soul is a good TH-cam channel for these).. which held my curiosity long enough to take me out of myself and really examine things, explore and imagine, then study and experiment, and ultimately, experience so much more to life. Sir, this choice is yours and yours alone, and that is a blessing of immense power. The truth is that this same power is available to us as we live our lives, to start identifying less with our circumstances, traumas, ego, and everything else we think we are. May you rediscover yourself.
Reality is, this kind of depression is a demon you cannot defeat. It will always be there and eventually... get you.
However, you're still well aware that the only right thing to do is to continue on, as far as you can go. It doesn't feel great to continue fighting, but it pays up someway.
At least I heard from someone that hearing this helps.
@@thesnowman7715same here, I’m 18 but when I was in 2nd grade around 2012, I drew a picture of me on top of a building about to jump off. I have never heard of people killing themselves at that age I don’t think. But I was able to feel such immense sadness and loneliness, to have a thought like that at 8 years old. The past 4 years I have had depression and suicidal thoughts on/off. I’m also autistic. I feel broken a lot of times. Anyways, Best of luck to you dude 👍
I felt like this for 23 years and had my first suicidal thoughts when I was 17. Tried to take my life when I was 28/29 and failed. After that things started to get better but now aged 40 and back to were I started. I don’t how much more I can carry on with this pain. My Mum is difficult and toxic and is very ill, which my family have made allowances for but still treat us like crap. My career has gone down the toilet after bad experiences and have no one I can confide in. I’m incredibly lonely and feel I have nothing to live for now. That things will never get better or I can’t get out of this toxic environment. Either way I’m trapped. So I’m serious considering it
@@rebeccayeatesmakeupI'm sorry to hear that, I know that I'm a stranger so my words might not mean a thing, but I can see how strong you are. I really admire you for that resilience. I will wish for the days to become brighter and happier for both of us.
Once me and some friends recieved a cryptic phone call from a suicidally depressed friend and we all responded very seriously and got him off his 9th floor balcony. Two days later he jumped from it anyway. We saved him for two days. I tell this story often because people torment themselves over what if they had been there at the right moment. Even if you had been theres no guarantee they would still be here, you cant blame yourself.
It also helps to put things in perspective. Had they died of an illness or an accident, the sentiment would be to grieve, but eventually get over it. Especially when adults end themselves, well, they carry some responsibility. Also, check your own emotions: are they genuine? Or are you talking yourself into something here because you know that you are supposed to feel bad about it? Suicide usually doesn't just happen. There are things leading up to it. Has the person become more and more distant over the past, visited or called with decreasing frequency? Apparently that didn't bother you enough to do something about it, so why does their death bother you so much now?
@@Volkbrecht everyone knew how serious it was he had been put in a ward FOUR times. The command and his friends were at a loss. I spoke at hos memorial and said he had an illness that turned out to be terminal
@@Volkbrechttell me you haven't lost someone to suicide without telling me you haven't lost someone to suicide. God, what a dreadful take. Has it occured to you that, like a disease, it goes beyond reason? My friend was fifteen when she killed herself. We did everything we could to get her help and guess what? She didn't want it. She resisted help (no matter what form it came in) every step of the way. Choosing to die by suicide or live is a choice only that person can make. Believe me, those left behind wish they could've made the choice for them to live. It's an excruciating form of loss, in particular because it's met with so much blame and apathy for those left behind (seen here in your comment). I hope it's a loss you never have to endure.
@@loganlabbe9767'm so sorry for your loss. You're absolutely right. It's a disease, and like any other disease it's not governed by fairness or love or reason. This is the same thing I will tell my daughter one day when she asks about the person she was named after.
Also, your original comment gave me peace. My friend reminded me often she could end it whenever she wanted to. I struggled a lot at the time with not being 'a good enough reason' for her to stay. Today I'm grateful for the extra days I had with her. All we can do is our best.
May they RIP. God bless
@@fff5572 yea I visited him in the ward before hand and begged and begged him to try living for just another couple months and he told me "some people are just meant to die" it sounds cruel but he was a genuinely good person and total sweetheart it just was too much for him in the end
Its very hard not to be suicidal in this cold world. I don’t know how people don’t be
Keep going!
@@Jaethedonttv0why?
Or at least have the ideation.
Better to not have. "David Benetar" and God in Ecclesiastes 3:1-3
@@oabh1808you made a lot of assumptions, most are wrong. Check yourself
@@oabh1808Yeah, for some people, pain is not temporary.
Sometimes life gets to a point when there is just nobody left to turn to.
63 here, I feel the same.
It isn't just always getting worse. Might feel that way but even if you reach a moment where there is no one to turn to, there will be another moment where you do have people to turn to.
I thought about suicide, I am so glad I didn't act, because life got so much better. It wasn't instant, but it got better.
@@masonleite9504 I regret not killing myself when I was younger. Life has been one heart-wrenching betrayal after another.
Enough is Enough.
@@malibudolphin3109 There's good people out there. I'm sorry you haven't been lucky but there are some people worth trusting out there.
@@malibudolphin3109 i know what you mean. just had a falling out with the last of my friends yesterday. over the past 4 years all the others dropped off after my girlfriend ran off with one of my friends when my mom was dying of cancer.. i posted something simple, a few word sentence on facebook about how aweful people were. i had been dealing with some unwarranted really abusive behavior from people i had been talking to. My friends response was. Jesus man! project much? He had never talked to me like that before and there didn't seem to be anything leading up to it. it made me realize thats what he really thought though.
I am in my early-mid 20s. The main reason behind suicidal thoughts is loneliness.
When you have dealt with painful experiences on your own and you don't have anybody to share it with and you still face some patterns everyday it gets tough. You may be surrounded by wholesome family but you may still be very lonely because they had no idea and still don't have any idea about how you see the world and what you been dealing with. And when you're fighting on your own for too long , it doesn't take you anywhere it gets very dark.
Sending hugs 🤗
In same situation as yours, it just becomes so difficult to NOT Have those those thoughts.
Not great advice here, but I suggest take time to drink your favourite non alcoholic beverage, listen to Eurodance, and smoke a few cigarettes, because smoking will Kill you just not yet!
Also try raising Your Heart and Mind to Jesus Christ, that might not be everyone's cup of tea though granted, it's up to you!
I can feel you. If you are able to write this in a comment section of a TH-cam video, where you have no idea what people you don't know will reply, you CAN tell someone about this. Talk to someone! As Dr. Peterson says, if you don't have anyone to talk to, go to the hospital. It seems you have a family. I think it's important to talk to them about how you feel. Please take care. 💕🙏
You can't tell people or they will have you committed. People simply cant understand a person can be traumatized so much and theres no medication thats going to ever fix those memories and trauma. We wake up everyday and carry that pain, now because we told someone and they had us committed, we now suffer in complete silence. I wish there were a safe place we could go to without judgement and someone say, "its ok." Theres no such place.
Exactly. You can’t share these feelings without being punished. $2500 for a 3 day hold where you get to color, eat garbage, and get approx 10 minutes of psych evaluation. Disgusting.
Sure you can. The problem is if a therapist or somone else will get the impression that you are a acute Danger to yourself they will commit you. But if you say you think about it but dont intend to act on it thats different. There is a big diference between i want to kill my self and somtimes i wish i was dead or sometimes i think about suicide.
Maybe we should create it?
I lost a close friend to the silent war. He had it all, two amazing little girls, great wife, nice house, solid career and a creative outlet. On the outside, everything was there that the typical person would "need" to be fulfilled & yet he still ended it all. Not a single friend or family member had a clue that he was suffering. It's been 9 years & I still cry for my friend & the wake of perpetual pain left behind for his family. I love you Julian, RIP
Are you sure his family never knew? In my experience at least some or one family member or a friends would have heard from the person that they are very depressed and even suicidal but often the family downplay it and then seem shocked when the person does commit suicide.
Agree. My youngest brother always knows whenever I am depressed. I can hide from everyone except him.
@@rosieposie9564 Your experience is not typical.
@@Chris-i0i0i0 I think it is. Deep depression tends to be hard to hide from anyone but the most insensitive of people. From what seriously depressed and the people who I know from my previous job who went on to die by suicide, they speak but the people around them do not really hear. Sometimes family/friends seem irritated or don't know how to react to deep depression and talk of suicide. Most who kill themselves tend to have been depressed for a very long time and are middle age by the time they succeed and by that time family/friends often become irritated by them overtly or covertly and the depressed person then feels like a burden but hardly ever is suicide just out of the blue and the depression not known to at least one person in the person's inner circle. There used to be a documentary called the Bridge (i think) on youtube that backs up my experience on this.
I lost my best friend to suicide and no one knew he ever thought about it. We were friends for 32 years. Men hide it very well and it is very common to lose someone to suicide and have no idea they would do such a thing. He had just turned 50 and had been promoted at work just prior to his death. I think about him every single day. It’s been 7 years now.
I do. I carry this burden alone. I have no one. All my family has passed away. I have always struggled to make friends. I am scared to decompose into a couch due to no one knowing I have died. I am 36 and my whole life so far has been this. I may be alive, but I do not feel like I am living. Just existing for whatever reason. I just don’t know
You're 36 years old - you're still young, you have more than an entire life ahead of you. Is it possible to find love when you've felt void of it for so long? Absolutely. It starts by loving those around you - there will be SOMEONE that you can show even the tiniest bit of love to, and as you do that, the love will return and will multiply, and will slowly grow like an ember into a flame. Is it possible to find meaning when you've felt void of it for so long? Absolutely. You know deep down that there is a reason why you're here - you're not a mistake. My recommendation is to read the Book of John in the Bible. Even if you hate God, the Bible or Christianity, just give it a go. Praying for you.
As a random person on the internet, I too am sad to read what you've written. If worthwhile human relations feel impossible for now, you might be able to find genuine care and companionship and purpose in a pet.
@kanepadams 36 years old ain't that young it's possible the person dies at 46 now they're 90 percent done in life. Yeah sure they might live Till 80 or whatever but not too many people become successes after like 35 or 40 they end up stuck I'm whatever place they're in or they die. Sometimes by the Ole suicide. And God doesn't exist.
my heart is with you, I pray for you, may love of the universe surround you@@kanepadams
You will find a purpose outside of yourself in service to others. You may have to do something brave and novel.
I believe in you. You can do it.
i dont think they are desperate, just tired...like really tired
It's like chronic pain. It wears you down. Sometimes you can regenerate more quickly than it drags you down, sometimes you can't...
A lot of ppl will never get that
Like a weight always on you, especially when your the reason for your shitty existence
@@Olivia-WYes…
Agree 100%
When I was younger, I cared a lot about my appearance.Then after some time had passed and I experienced real suffering, I realized that health (physical and mental) is really where it's at. Without it, there is no well-being.
My cousin committed suicide several years ago, and my uncle and other cousin's trauma is the primary thing that keeps me from doing the same.
As much as I hate myself and want to not exist, I could never do that to my family.
Been there, done that. I'm just here to let you know that I know how it is to see no end of pain/ suffering, that I was experiencing.
Physical & mental violence at home, very little money, at best a mediocre friend circle - a really shitty situation. ^^
But I tried to keep giving it another chance, another day of figuring how to improve what was availeable to me; and over time, meeting better people & "cleaning my room" one step at a time + re-framing my life, through learning from people online (Jordan being one of them); things got WAAAAAAAY better...
Nothing is guaranteed; I figure sh*t out as I go as well.
But, there is a real possibility of having a good life; things going so well that I am thankful to be alive, changing a lot about the circumstances in my/ your life & enjoying living. ❤
Age? If you don’t mind me asking
@@TheOutlierToday When I was suicidal, I convinced myself everyone would be happy if I did it. My dog saved my life.
Lost one friend to suicide so far💐
Telling people only makes it a thousand times worse.
+1
I told my dad and he called me pathetic and a weak coward for being depressed. I'm only living for my brother.
@@tedk.6420 Live so you’re proud of yourself seems to be my best advice. If you’re ashamed of yourself it’s worse
@@tedk.6420see in that’s the problem exactly why folks don’t bother to reach out
I tried telling my family the last time I felt suicidal and that's when I realised for certain that none of my family give a shit about me. I just continue with this life because, like Peterson says, you can always do it tomorrow. I take each day as it comes, even if each day is just as meaningless as the last, I really do try to improve my life and make something of it but honestly this world is getting really fucked up in recent years. It's hard to picture a future that's positive in some way.
Doing emergency psychiatric in an ER, doctors from the surrounding 3 counties sent their suicide attempts to us. I had to decide if they needed hospitalization or could go home. Most were OD's and most were female. ALL of them asked me why I CARED. I never saw people so isolated .If you can make caring contact with someone who's depressed, do it.
Thank you for your work! I am a clinician at an inpatient psych facility receiving the kind of patients that you deem in need of further hospitalization. I know how difficult it can be to carry the burden of deciding when someone is ready to leave a controlled environment that has been suicidal. Prayers for wisdom for you in your position.
This is so true 😭
Yes, if this message actually resonated with direct family and true friends, all would end in different terms. But this is usually not the case. You feel alone and find out that indeed you are alone. The constant "i never knew", is hardly the truth
Most Depress people don’t advertise what they went through. Nobody in my family ( husband, son, parents, brothers, sister) knows my darkness. They all thought I am a feisty wife or a generous daughter/ sister/mom.
But, if they only observe, I don’t have friends, don’t go out much.
@@Lords-ok3do Some people have no family.
I have tried to commit suicide several times as a young adult.
Now as a middle aged adult I again find myself weighing the pros and cons of being alive.
The hard part about being an adult is that people stop caring if you are in pain, and they completely ignore you when you do tell them that death is something you consider daily as an choice.
Then the realization that noone care sets in and you sink further into the pain.
Not sure where this is going because I have not found out yet.
Seek to grow spiritually , that could truly help a lot
May God bless your heart ❤ PS- you're not the only one who's been through what you've been through and I just want to say from my pov that it's a miracle you're still here, I think that is beautiful and that life has something great in store for you, God is not done with you, your story isn't over , joy is within your grasp. Seek is my advice , it does yield reward even if that is just insight after insight , eventually it can turn into an incredible meaningful life and you can help others to navigate theirs . You are blessed to be a blessing. Perhaps find out more about what that is or what that means in your life and or how you could apply it or simply become aware or on the lookout for things that become relevant to you in the way that you feel drawn to being, and be you. It's hard. But It takes tremendous strength and courage to stick around after surviving multiple attempts. I don't know where I'm going with this either. I suppose I can relate and it's not often I see or hear or speak to another who has survived multiple attempts. There is a point where you give up on giving up because you know it just won't work and what you have to do is keep going albeit painful and etc but hopefully what can be reflected to you is everything good that you are and that you do in such a way that you can fall in love with life and live it with joy it's not impossible. I think that because of that, there's an opportunity, and cutting yourself off from that is not fair. You have worth, it's time you begin to sink in to your value and rise above the pain and grow and eventually soar. Again, seeking spiritual help can expand your horizon and is most definitely worth a try. That's why I'm still breathing. ❤
@@zero1957 I hope ur okay ❤️
Hope you're doing okay.
neither have i, i want to be gone before i get too old so i don't become a vegetable, what a miserable existence
“You can always do it tomorrow” thank you so very much for that
That argument about leaving people close to you traumatised by your death must have really hit hard for those who are suicidal and don't have a single person that would even notice, let alone care.
It hits hard for us who are loved by many yet hate ourselves and want out regardless too. The visions of doing that to them are torturous.
@@d1ssolv3r Exactly. At least people who aren't alone have a valid, objective reason to not give up. But if you hate life, hate yourself, don't see a point in keep on going plus you are completely alone, I think it's a safe bet that you're much more likely to take that final step, than someone who has support from others. In fact, being alone for too long can be the cause of depression. I would even risk a statement that people would prefer to be hated, than just invisible. If you're hated, well at least you're being noticed, even if in a negative way, it's better than to just be ignored. Then you can really feel like you're nobody.
@@kr-vm1bt Sometimes I wish I had absolutely noone, would make it a lot less painful/simpler. No devastation in your wake. I see where you're coming from. Family and friends are one of the few things that've kept me alive
Who gives a fuck when you're dead lolololi
There's always someone who cares, all they have to do is reach out to people and ask for help! If nobody arounds them can help them, then God will! I speak from personal experience!
I’ve had suicidal thoughts for a few decades, but the only thing that stops me from doing it is knowing how much pain my family would be in.
Same! But I'm 18 and have been suicidal for 1.5 years
There's hope for you. I used to feel such a way. I thought it was inescapable. Today I am among the least depressed, most fulfilled people around. It took making many small changes daily involving meditation, fitness, nutrition, journaling, God (I am latter-day saint). These ended up being big changes in the long run. Don't give up.
Same Here. If my Parents were Gone. It would have been an easy Decision.
I didn’t have that chance to talk to my husband when he committed suicide by gun to his head and now I’m severely depressed
@@donnablackburn6245 I’m so sorry for your loss.
Not everybody has someone to tell....some of us are completly alone
You have to make your own community sometimes. Not just find it because sometimes you can't. You have to make it. And that takes work. And a lot of hurt. But what is the alternative?
Sometimes you have someone and they dont understand you at all
+1
@@Vic82toire People that need somebody to talk to usually can't even reassemble themselves, and you want them to make a community? Let's be real- that's probably not happening ever. 🤨
I lost my oldest son Michael to suicide May 2017 age 27. I miss him everyday. 😢 it changed me I had to learn to live without him which is the hardest thing to do 💔
your son is with god,you know everytime you think of michael his soul races to you ,honestly hes there with you ,believe me hes there,talk to him ,tell him how much he was loved and look out for a sign ,the sign can be a 1000 different things ,for me my dad smoked cuban cigars on chrimbo day ,i smelled them i just knew my dad was here with me
Sorry for your loss
My condolences Michelle. I wish you peace❤️🩹🫂
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry for the loss of your dear son.
Fun Fact: I had some pretty intense depression and incredible anxiety that invoked panic attacks, chest pain, heaviness in my left arm, all sorts of problems. I went to the ER dozens of times over the course of 2 years, it cost my family a fortune.
It was a gluten intolerance. When I removed gluten, 90% of my issues vaporized.
You are 1 of the 0.001%. Don't find this so relevant to push gluten shit on others
That's splendid news, however, panic attacks have been shown to be only existing in people with catastrophic interpretations of their bodily sensations. What they did was to inject people with yohimbine or sodium lactate, depending on the experiment, and only neurotic people reported the occurrence of panic attacks. Other people just felt agitated. Also their vitals were pretty similar, including blood pressure, heart rate etc. So while there is a strong somatic component to panic attacks, they are only possible in people already having anxious thoughts and a generally negative outlook on life.
I would suspect that the rest of your symptoms are similar in that regard. Also, what about that remaining 10%?
BTW, I have been suffering from panic attacks myself some 10 years ago, for a few months, but I eventually recognized that they are psychological in nature, then watched a video on TH-cam with a relevant sort of a 'meditation', and never suffered from them again. That doesn't mean I don't get agitated anymore, it's just that I don't interpret these situations in a way that leads to panic. Years later, after having rehearsed various nutrients, electrolytes, vitamins, diets, sunshine exposure theory, outdoor activities, cardio, calisthenics etc etc etc ×100, I went to therapy and my life *really* started improving from that moment onwards. So that's why I'm a bit skeptical as to all of it being due to an intolerance of a dietary component - but as I say if you're better now, that's splendid and that's all that counts.
How did you find out?
Yea how do u find out?
How did you find out?
Was having suicidal thoughts years back. I suffered severe anxiety and mental disorder 20 years ago as a teenage. Got diagnosed with cptsd. Spent my whole life fighting cptsd. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.
How can I find him? Is he on insta
I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an
obsession with violence.
Yes he ships! Got mine shipped here in Luxembourg 🇱🇺
I am trying to find more info on this got a supplier? Are the mushrooms inspected for illegal substances? to many times non hard drugs has fentanl in it..killing this user.
Yes, each of us carries their weight alone. Anyone pretending otherwise is selling something.
I have felt suicidal regularly since my early 20's. I am now 39 and still suffer with these thoughts and feelings. I have found getting out and immersing myself in nature, trying to focus on the different species of plants and animals on display is very helpful. It helps me forget about my own problems and escape the torment of my own mind/ego. Listening to Dr Peterson has helped me a lot. Thank god for people like him who actually care and understand the suffering of their fellow humans.
if you like plants, look at the magic shrooms, could heal every Psychological illness
I'm glad you found something that comforts you and helps to take away the pain... People need to teach themselves effective ways to deal with their problems, suicide is not the answer, these thoughts come from the devil...
Keep going !
Yeh im similar i find that animals and nature helps
Keeping our brains busy like reading books helps a lot and remembering that this world is a test and there is a better world after this pain
"The past is dismal, and the present is unbearable, and the future is definitely worse, and it's all my fault."
I can relate.
If it's all your fault at least you can change and do better. If you always worked hard and tried your best and nothing workes it's an entirely different story.
If it's all your fault at least you can change and do better. If you always worked hard and tried your best and nothing workes it's an entirely different story.
That quote pretty much sums up my mind. Things are always getting worse.
Im really glad he said the people who love you would never recover from it, this has definitely helped me.
That’s it. And the children I want to adopt who will never be adopted.
That's the worst point here
@@SapienSafari There will be other people like you
I did try to commit suicide and jumped 5 stories almost exactly 3 years ago to the day. I survived and spent 2 1/2 months in the hospital after extensive reconstructive surgery to my face, jaw and a snapped leg. It's a brutally difficult thing to go through, but if anything I would say don't do it because you could actually survive and have to face the long term physical consequences like I do now.
Jesus dude, hope your doing ok ❤
I hope you gained insight from it all brother
Bullshit
I'm thinking about doing it.But not 5 stories.Theres a building here in town,the talest in town.It's 145 meters,no way i make it out alive.
@@TheMATHEHOUSEYou're only inviting more hell, friend. The chances may seem low, but life is cruel and modern healthcare will never let you die if they get you. I only didn't for years because I feared surviving. My advice is: if this life is so garbage that you need to throw it away then do it. But to start a new one instead of just ending it. Run away. I'm serious. Take what ever money you have even if it's a couple bucks and just leave everything. Start driving or walking or whatever. Go somewhere new and don't look back. Look up shelters and churches and just ask for help when you need it. Find a small business and ask for an under the table job. You might as well say fuck it and try something new. Leave a note for anyone you care for. Better to disappear from their lives then make them live with your death.
The hospital just makes it worse😢
Those types of thoughts are how I found Jordan’s content in the first place. After I had thought threw how I was gonna do it for most of a morning I cried and thought I needed help. Thanks Jordan for the help.
you deserve to be happy keep fighting the urge of feeling horrid inside we all deserve life and to enjoy it.
maybe i can help you?
It doesn't matter if someone is suicidal. If they have a plan or not. Someone who says they feel like they want to die should NEVER be taken lightly. Why would you want someone to suffer like this. I once had a nurse tell me it was normal to want to die as long as you don't do anything about it. Yeah that's super helpful!
Suicidal ideation possibly are more common then people admit too but 😂the poor nurses are always flat out and have to triage, they probably have it down to a science who needs their immediate attention and who can wait
Nurse once told me, we can't save you all.
The nurse is correct. You’re just ignorant of many things about the realities of life. I hope one day you can figure this out.
Normal u think about dying every----- day feels painful to me have to keep talking myself out of it
Its true, many people think this way when very upset, but they are not serious about it.
I won’t forget the night I listened to this on the side of the Bourne bridge ready to go ready to go had enough of this world I’m 6 months and 1 day sober. I’m not great. But I’m not dead. Don’t give up.
This man inspired me to become a therapist and I work at a psychiatric hospital doing therapy almost exclusively with suicidal people. Thank you so much for all you do, Dr. Peterson.
And thank you for 'taking up your cross' as Jordan would say. Peace be with you and best of luck with your mission in this life.
Y'all got a bed available on the unit? Asking for a friend.
@@1ron0xide♥️x
If you are not vegan, you are an animal abuser and a murderer. Dominion (2018) 👈
@@1ron0xide hey bud, happy to talk if you've got no to talk to, stay strong.
My love killed herself the june 16 2023. She was shizophrenic. I miss her so much. Now she's over her suffering. She was intelligent, maybe to much for this society. I just want to talk to her, hug her, but that's not possible anymore. She's in the ground. I miss her so much. Love from France to everyone
May Allah guide you
After being jobless for nearly a year and experiencing constant rejection, I just couldn’t take it anymore. I considered throwing myself in front of a huge truck that was coming down the road. I remembered though that my problem, as tough as it was, was a temporary one. I’m happy to say it was eventually resolved. However I have not quite been the same since then. The memories of my poor mental state still affect me at times.
So what if the problem was temporary? So is having a job. So is being happy. Nothing is permanent, except death
I literally just stopped myself by watching this. That’s all I’m going to say. That’s how powerful and meaningful Jordan is to me.
😢Bro, I'm glad you're alive.
Update us please
please talk to someone - family friends or even professionals - if you feel the same way again. Stay strong!
Thank you for being you.
Thank you for your honesty.
You are more special than you will ever know. ❤️
God does not make mistakes. You were created for a reason. You are needed in the world. You are worth it, so hang in there. Much love.
This interview found me the night I had my plan. It saved my life. I never want to hurt the people I love and who love me. This video was my wake up call to keep fighting. Thank you Jordan for your inspiring words. My family and friends can't thank you enough.
Echoing what many others have said - i am alive today because by the grace of God i found Dr. Peterson.
Thank you.
Life fucking sucks
It's been 2 years since I attempted. I'm still recovering. I will live with permanent reminders for the rest of my life. That being said. In the earlier days of recovery, I had lots of time on my hands and used it to my advantage. Through psychotherapy and reading, I had discovered what plagued my mind after 30 years on this earth. Today, I am very different from who I was 2 years ago and I will be very different 2 years from now. God bless.
❤🌱
Ask Jesus to heal you. Love and peace.
61 yrs old still suffering.Just keep putting it off ..today.I came pretty close..
I'm sorry you have gone so long feeling like this. I am not even half of your age but, you are so strong for holding on for so long. Please keep going!
Hey good luck man, I'm doing better now and it does get better eventually and if not, we only get so many trips around the sun anyway.
Hang in there man. The end is near for all of us anyways. I do believe that. Might as well try to squeeze out a few drops of simple human pleasure in the meantime and see how it ends.
As someone who has really struggled with these thoughts and plans without telling anyone , I have to think of my wife and kids, they need me. They love me, much more than I can hate myself. I cannot and will not put them through that pain. So I soldier on, and it will pass. Tough times don't last forever.
my father committed suicide and i can tell you that is the best way to destroy a family and leave your love ones with a pain that will never go away . tell someone your thoughts . your family would much rather listen to you than have a life-long guilt for not being able to help you. i send love and prayers to you and ur family ❤️
@masonmeeks-johnson6730 thank you.
@@bigdeano4459 I hope you're doing better, and remember people care and need you. You aren't alone.
@@Lux-IceCream-fx8tq I have changed jobs and taken steps to better myself. Much happier now, thanks.
How could a person prevent the pain and destruction from affecting their family? Do you think a well written note would work?
Thank you. OMG i didn’t even know that could be a cause of depression. I was battling suicidal depression for 3 months, I am better now but I am going through diagnostics with my doctor over hair loss, rashes, insomnia, pain, fatigue, low blood pressure- just not well and now in process of trying to figure out which autoimmune disorder I have as that what she thinks is wrong. And I can’t believe I didn’t tell her about the depression because it didn’t occur to me that it was anything other than emotional. I didn’t think they could be related. THANK YOU. You just saved my life❤️
Check your house for black mold anywhere with moisture. Bath, toilet, windows, doors, refrigerator, AC. Google images to identify. It releases Mycotoxins which cause everything you describe, including lingering depression, fatigue, insomnia, brain fog, low blood pressure, heart palpitations, anxiety like you wouldn't believe, hormone disruptions, rashes, and much more. Don't get on the track of taking meds until a last resort. Check the air filter of your AC, and in your car too. Remove any found mold with straight bleach, taking care to wear rubber gloves to prevent mycotoxin saturation through the skin. Wear a high-grade mask too. A supplement called NAC is super powerful for removing mycotoxins from cells and the bloodstream along with Glutathione. I take 1 capsule of NAC morning/night and after 2 days I experienced a noticeable increase in energy, better sleep, better energy, and hormone increase (which I won't elaborate on). It's worth a try if you find any mold, and NAC can be bought in any health foods store for cheap.
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Does anyone know any good source to get them? I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels, would love to give shrooms a try.
Yes, bergwilly11_
A lot of people have testified about this and I really want to give it a shot. I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels
Shrooms was definitely the best trip I ever had. It was amazing!
Can bergwilly send to me in PA?
I suffer from anxiety and depression. Sometimes the thoughts get so unbearable that I have suicidal fantasies. I’ve planned and plotted but never took action, thank god. Recently, the tendencies have died down a lot which I am beyond grateful for. For those out there suffering with depression and anxiety, you’re not alone. I understand that it’s hard, but I promise you, things will get better for us. There’s nowhere to go but forward, brothers and sisters! Live on 🤘
its gonna be okay. i have similiar struggles. ❤
But we're all alone.
Sadly. Ive now begun to think about taking my life. Its so incredibly difficult. I know im goi g to do something UNLESS things get better. But i have chronic illness. Im on a very low income . I have no effective family or friends. They're passed on.. So. The way is clear. Funny. Really. Ad ive chosen to be a very kind, helpfull, tolerant and spiritual person. Here in England its such a cold, heartless society.
And i wont be part of it much longer. Nobody cares about me. I have nobody. So ill cut my own artery if i decide too. But fir now. Ill carry on. Another 2 or 3 months. But folk need to help.
Same here. Just same.
Things will start to get better once you reach out for help church is full of people who used to be where you are mentally who came in broken on their last who now no longer deal with the pain and suffering. I for years suffered that pain and since asking and seeking God I am totally healed mentally I am no longer on antidepressants I am a happy person. My brother ended his life 3 weeks ago none of us knew he struggled with depression he was only 27. I don’t want anyone to ever be in pain please please reach out at church I know God cures depression as he did mine.
"There's many pathways to desparation." In the '70's, I was in group therapy and from time to time, special group sessions were held, e.g. one was held for suicidal patients. As I have never been suicidal, it was not appropriate for me to be there. However, the conclusion of the attending patients as to the common denominator of suicidal ideation was publicly shared, namely a feeling that only suicide could eliminate the pain.
My mom is fighting depression and suicidal thoughts for about 6 years.
We as a family fight this battle with her.
But I do know that there is a chance every single day that I could get the call.
It's hard that you can't do shit, but only be there for them.
If I could carry the heavy load for her I would do it in a heartbeat.
Exactly the same here. My mom tried to kill herself 3 times but is still here. I’m also expecting a call everyday it’s fucking dreadful. She’s been depressef for 7-8 years and is addicted to benzos at the point that the doctors don’t know what to do
@@camfre4k Yeah it really is dreadful.
We've put medicine she needs in a locked box. And the other medicine she now gets from a little machine with a timer, giving the exact amount she needs for the day.
Changes for her to grab to much pills is now a bit smaller.
But we also know she could take knives to do it.
Sadly you can't make everything 100% without having them at home.
I have to rely on my dad that he keeps a good eye on her.
If you need someone to talk about, I'm there.
Just let me know and we set something up to talk.
People who are not in this situation don't fully understand so it's harder to talk to them.
Being there for her is the biggest part-- the most important. My 2 kids could care less if I were alive, or dead. They have abandoned me when I needed them the most. I'm totally different now, than I was 2 years ago, before this happened. Now, I no longer care about anything, except my pets. Without them, I wouldn't be here, that I do know!!
no one loves me so no one will be hurt by me leaving
You will be hurt, more than you know. And for a hundred selfish people, there will always be some silent angels willing to love you regardless. You may see them on the streets, at the busstop, they're around if you're willing to reach out to them.
I think I might have a reasonable idea of the kind of situation you're in right now. You feel helpless, useless, miserable in a way that makes you want to end it.
Let me explain something to you. Love and hate, good and evil, they're much like light and dark and for good reason. Suppose you have a dark room. You may not see the furniture, you may not walk or you'll bump against all kinds of things, your life will be catastrophic.
All you have to do is turn on the light. Love is a fire that grows, and to love is to be loved. It starts with you. Learn to love the man that insults you, learn the love the woman that rejects you, learn to love the people that don't love you back.
I assure you, do this and you will be cured within 7 days. Please try. It'll be a relief.
How are you doing friend?
I understand I feel like that
I watch a majority of your videos, I consider you to be one of the most intellectual and positive influential speakers we have to day, and hold you in the highest regards, especially whenever anyone around me mentions your name, your lectures on children helped me with raising my 6yr old son tremendously, I’m just hoping you can make more videos like this 1, it absolutely helps me and I know for a fact when I was suicidal it would have most likely made sure an attempt was never made, I beg you continue to make more videos similar , even shorts, and applaud you for not shying away from the challenge of discussion around these kinds of topics, please Mr.Peterson if you are reading this, consider a longer video on it!❤ P.S(or possibly even the Canadian wildfires, that would suffice seeing how bad they’ve gotten, records being broke & how it’s impacting the United States as well, your from Canada if I remember correctly and no one’s even coming close to really addressing it, I’m sure it would not only bring traffic to your channel, but help give a better perspective to the people, I’ve sense experiencing so much air pollution and problems in Michigan been eagerly & patiently waiting to say the least for you to speak on it & it seems like it’s not gonna happen cause it’s been months and there’s nothing, not sure why that’s not something you’ve spoke about publicly but I’d find it very rewarding to hear your thoughts on it! Random but had to add it in case you do see this. Thanks for your time and all you’ve done for us.) sincerely, Kyle Edward.
Thank you for the video. After my friend unalived I've been struggling, and I wish I could have sent it to him, but the words are comforting. "If I could of just been there..."
I’m all alone, I have no one
You are never alone God is with you always just call out to Him ....He will answer I promise ❤
Having a family who loved me stopped me from getting detailed about my despair in the worst times. Having understood how much that would hurt the people I loved was why it never went past the fact that I really couldn’t stand being alive, and couldn’t see a path out of the darkness. “I don’t want to be here, but I can’t leave them in that way.” Bad enough to lose a loved one in any manner, but worse to tell them their love wasn’t enough for me, and mine for them also wasn’t enough either.
For some context, I really struggled in school. I hated it. I really hated it. Worse than that, I hated that I couldn’t seem to make myself get through it like everyone else. So I got farther behind. The school and teachers kept piling on the weight of life before it even began. Told me how I was screwing up my life before it even began. The worse it got, the greater the mountain grew. My parents wanted me to not have to work myself to death. We were poor, so I was under pressure to not suffer like they did. To do something other than back breaking labor. The farther I fell, the bigger the mountain was.
I was convinced my life was over before it’d even began.
Luckily I wasn’t stupid. I went to schools with good curriculums. I stayed in school long after it was clear I wouldn’t graduate. Luckily, that was actually a good thing. Always tested well. I read the books. I learned most of what I needed to know. I aced the GED. I got out and saw that I wasn’t doomed.
I still don’t have my life together. But I have no kids, I do work I like. I have people I love and who love me. And with Peterson’s help, I was able to reconcile myself with not only my faith, but faith to this world.
There is always tomorrow.
:)
Thank you for sharing your story. You are loved ❤
@@yodaengineer I’m tempted to be cynical. Just honestly. However, I will change what I think.
I appreciate the kind word. Thank you.
It occurs to me I will have to do so for a reason though. “If it is that words have power, even the smallest of them. So then the act of giving them in any respect, is a powerful act.” As Peterson has pointed out before, and jives with what I know. The difference between 0 and 1 is practically insurmountable. It’s the difference between nothing at all, and something that can be added to and multiplied. It is NOT nothing.
So thank you again. You’ve made something where there was nothing. I don’t know you, but I love the the heart behind the choice you’ve made. The kindness you’ve shown. So in that, you are also loved stranger. ❤️
@@chickenmonger123 There is a constant state of noise. It is as if you placed a noise filter to block out your EMI and other channel noise that, instead, happens within us. Acknowledging that cynicism is present but choosing the latter is daring.
Keep spreading your light. Thank you.
Thank you for being you and I am learning so much from you. I have been suicidal on and off for a couple of years now and listening to you has been life saving! I have also been inspired to start school to become a therapist and hope to help people!! We need less hate and more understanding in this world!! 🌟
you deserve happiness and to be alive also once you are better and whole you can then help people.
speaking from experience but also i know what you mean once you have been to a dark place you don't want people going to that same place.
That's true! Less hate and more understanding. Now that would be a miracle. Never been so judged in my life. Been judged in my life since i'm 4 years old.
All I want is for the self hatred to stop. Once it starts, I can't control that voice and it can go on for days. It eats me alive and leaves me feeling empty and exhausted. I've talked to a few people and they tell me the same thing "lifes hard, find a hobby, see the bright side, be grateful.." but the voices consume my life. I just want to feel whole again. I have detailed plans but I can't do anything until the people who rely on me are gone..
There is a dilemma I have faced many times now, that I have had those thoughts, wanting someone to share my burden with me but always wanting to share other peoples and but when someone comes along to share my burden, its not the right person and I realise that I want someone specific to share it with me and that emptiness is a result of not having that person. Yet it still remains. This is why therapy doesn't always work.
Talk to me, when you feel depressed...
Thank you Dr. Peterson, I'll remember "you can always do it tommorrow". And I didn't expect to but I broke down and cried when you mentioned that my loved ones would be affected and would never recover if I go through with my suicide. My family, especially my little princess has been the factor that has always stopped me when I was about to go through with it. Thank you for the message.
Dude same.. My little girl and my two boys stop me from doing it to... If i didnt have them i would already be dead. And everytime i feel so down that i wanna kill myself and think about them and i cry and get torn inside but i just cannot do that to them...
I hear this a lot, but what if you don't have any "loved ones?"
You are the most amazing person that exists…. We have never met, never communicated, but i feel closer to you thru your videos than my own parents, family, and most of my friends…. Thank god for you
I didn' want to hear that it can traumatise some of the few people who I left behind. One of the reasons I'm still around, is that I'v had responsabilities for others.. I don't want to hear I can't leave, I want to believe they can handle it now. I have no future, and I can't hang around feeling horrible, lonley, and soon homeless, decades after decades, for others sake anymore
I hope you will reach out to me and I'll be your friend. I'm so sorry and I want both of us to be happy.
@@vanner66thank u so much, but life really sucks
This is the part people forget. They will endlessly guilt trip you to not do it and stay here for what? Another decade? 20, 30, 40 more years when you could just be gone today? THAT is cruel
I personally think it's a little different when you got kids as a responsibility but only you know your circumstances, man. Maybe you've been through something so painful that it overshadows the pain your kids will feel by you taking your own life
It's true, when someone close to you commits suicide it destroys you, it makes you feel guilty forever. At the same time, people who are suffering seek peace, and I understand that too.
doing it tomorrow has kept me alive for the last 15 years
how does it feel?
@@Justanother1ne I forgot I made this comment. Honestly, better than ever. I still have hard days every once in a while but I have found real fulfillment in a few things and I'm so glad I stuck around all those hard years.
@@riverrat5822 nice hearing that ;)
Good to hear you're doing better but the "do it tomorrow" advice is dumb. Would he say that about getting a job, or signing up to a gym, or cleaning your room or any other thing in life? No lol
@keifer7813 you obviously didn't watch the video. Do it tomorrow is what you tell yourself when you are considering sending yourself on the one way permanent trip to sleepy town. Keep yourself alive by always telling yourself "what's the rush, I can do it tomorrow."
I don’t have any family, none. It is a constant struggle to fit in and not feel lonely; specially around the holidays. I cherish my memories of my wonderful mother and stepfather, and former pets.
Please get a new pet. Having something to take care of might help you and give you some companionship. I wish you the best.
Please help me
@@jenniferj5324 Thank you.
Thank you for so much truth. My son's death will hurt forever. I just tell myself he is with extended family holding him tightly now; it is their turn to be with him and I'll get my turn soon, again. but the world is a worse place for losing you, Alex. I wish you knew, and had chosen to stay, Son. Still proud to be your Mom. Hug the cats for me.
I hope this video reaches out to more and more people. Dr. Peterson puts it in such a comprehensive and empathetic manner while including also a fun part that you can always do it the next day. Although I don't like some political opinions of his, when it comes to videos like this, he is always a Gem to the world.
This man is blessed by God. Thank you JP for everything.
Blessed by God lol, the same god that will let many struggle to live with depression and suicidal thoughts, he sounds great
Jesus is a scammer and ruined my life.
Im about to. ❤️ life is useless and not worth it anymore. Peace and rest will be mine soon
"I had a client who missed a call from a family member hour before he killed himself "
😓Sad and hard to get over.
Had a friend whose on / off again boyfriend asked her to marry him (while she was pregnant w another man's child) and she refused him.
He went directly home and shot himself in the head. His sister found him when she came home and report it personally to my friend.
My friend had so much guilt, she tried to make it up by praying hard for forgiveness and asking God to make the baby inside her look just like him - she even named the baby after him.
Guess what? That child does look and behave exactly like her late ex (blood tests said it wasn't his).
What an interesting world we live in. Wonder what the spirit world is like.
cool story
The soul after death
By Seraphim Rose
About a year ago I made a phone call in search of answers regarding a predicament I’d found myself in during my exam period. Over the course of the conversation, I somehow found myself breaking down, barely even managing to speak. I’d been carrying around so much without telling a soul that id gotten to a point where suicide was the only thing I could think of, the only thing I could possibly do that would make sense. The lady receiving my call had better judgement than I did, and sensing that I had reached this point, she called 911 without advising me. I was then hospitalized for 2 weeks and one thing that I will always remember is the attending psychiatrist telling me that amongst everyone who finds their way into that psych ward, the patients he’s always most worried about aren’t those with the most severe conditions but rather those with no one to talk to. As people, we often need to say things out loud, to others, to gauge the validity of our own thoughts and judgements. All we need is someone to listen. I hope that if you’re reading this and you aren’t doing so well, you find the strength to speak before deciding to do anything that you may not be around to regret later.
This too shall pass.. remember that!! it is so true. Everything is temporary even if it doesnt feel like it. The good is temporary the bad is temporary. The hard part about depression is it tricks your mind into thinking it has always been bad and it will never be good. But this state you are in also will pass. Seek out help!
Movies are temporary too. Every movie has good and bad parts. Should I bother finishing it if it really sucks or should I switch it off and go do something else? Most people would probably click off, right?
It's the same with life. Why not just end it when it's not worth it anymore? Why wait for it to get good? It might never get good.
6:35 as someone who was VERY suicidal for a long time and didn't realize I was suicidal until talking to friends and realized that most people don't fantasize about killing themselves on a daily basis: the long lasting damage is sometimes the motivation for suicide. Like how school shooters want to be "noticed", suicide is an effective means of being permanently "noticed" and permanently "remembered". There is a certain level of comfort in knowing that you can sort of get back at everyone who made you feel bad by making them feel terrible.
Obviously, this is terrible thinking, but I just want it to be known that telling someone who is suicidal that they will "permanently affect people's lives" is not a strong argument to get them to stop. In some cases, it is a selling point.
Exactly! I'm currently suicidal and this came across as a selling point to me.
I guess we all have to find our own reasons to live? Some reasons work for others, and some don't.
And you're so right about the being "remembered" part. That is also one of my motivations, to get back at the people who did me wrong? Like there's no way you can argue about what you did to me anymore, because I'm gone. And it'll be quite clear who was the abused one. And then maybe all the people who weren't there for me and called me "crazy" would finally realize.
Again, all of it sounds like a fantasy. But a fantasy you can make come true.
@@duakhan8448 The issue with that is that you're still losing in long-run. If your whole life is dictated by getting back at people who wronged you or making them feel bad then you need to find a better purpose or goal in life.
Suicide is tempting when all of your current goals have failed and it seems like the most powerful way to get back at the world, but that's usually because you've limited your scope on what you can do and haven't weighed your options properly. As it is well known, people who jump off the Brooklyn bridge and survive always regret it on the way down. The thought is tempting until you do it and realize "Oh frick, I REALLY could've tried something different" or "Oh, wait, why didn't I just apply to a couple more jobs per day?". There are plenty of options available that AREN'T suicide.
Also, I think JP mentioned this before, but when I was suicidal it was sort of a biological clock where around the same time everyday I would get suicidal. It took me a while to realize that I wasn't suicidal because of the quality of the day, I was suicidal based on the time of the day. Sort of like Pavlov's dog, I think I became so depressed for so long that suicidal thinking became a natural biological response and the fix to it was medication and moving to live with my family for a few years. Honestly, the family aspect did way more than the medication did. I started working different jobs and changed my expectations on life for a few years and that helped a bunch.
Having people to talk to helps. Find a community group of sorts where you can talk frequently.
I eventually got off medication but I've made sure that I talk to people on a weekly basis as I have a tendency to stop talking to everyone for weeks on end unless I forced myself to. Genuine conversations really make a difference.
@@duakhan8448 you're not gonna revenge on people who did you wrong by killing yourself, that's how you're gonna make them win. Because people who did you wrong on purpose want to see you down obviously. and also are not likely capable of regretting their actions even after you commit suicide. They just don't care about you enough. You get back to them by flourishing and thriving after their low punches and basically laughing at their faces by doing so. Hope that helps. 🤙
I guess some people feel that way, but I feel the opposite. I fantasize about disappearing and everyone instantly forgetting about me. But that's impossible. I don't want to hurt anyone or be remembered. I just don't want to exist right now. The fact it would hurt my loved ones keeps me from doing it.
I had a housemate blow his brains out a few weeks ago right before fathers day. Had to call the police, fire dept. to bust the door down which had 10 latches on it. He had been in there for days which was not unusual as he was a shut in. Many of us tried to help him, but if you listened to him, he made a very compelling argument for how everything sucks. For him. Lived on gas station food and occasionally went on long tirades against anyone. He seemed to make no effort to change anything, was estranged from his family. I honestly feel he had an ax to grind against the world and sent a message. Yes it's sad and I hope he found his peace.
I'm so sorry to hear this. Hope you're looking after yourself and getting whatever support you need. Wishing you all the best!
@@samuelhass9035 I'm not as callous as I may sound. It takes time to process these things. Thank you for the sentiment.
I can relate. I am that figurative deadbeat kid that was going nowhere fast in life until a hobby of mine exploded into a career that I am doing very well in.
The problem is that transformation of who I was into who I am now hurt some family members feelings something bad and since then they have done everything they can to destroy me and my life for it. 2 plus years of senseless legal battles and endless false accusations nd reporting to law and regulatory agencies and nothing has come from it other than to make damn sure that no matter how well I do in my work I stay pennyless and stalled out from going forward in any way that matters.
All they do is try to find new ways to take me and my business apart because they can't have control of it or me and I hate every second of it. When I was a worthless bum with no money I did have a care in the world and was happy. Now I make more money in good months than I used to in nearly 3 bad years of my life combined, yet I have nothing to spend due to the endless legal harassment and attacks.
So yea, I can relate to having an a to grind against society due to how our law enforcement, legal and regulatory agencies have zero capacity to actually help and protect anyone who is actually trying to do the right thing by the rules.
As for why I don't just walk away and let them have it. If I do that I lose everything, but if I stay and fight I have a small chance of winning no matter how unlikely it may be.
So here I sit, trapped. Surrounded by opportunity and loving family. A few close friends. Able bodied and able minded. Yet suffocated by heavy, impossibly adhesive chains. I eat well, I exercise, I have tried to find love and fill my free time with things I think I might like to do. People generally seem to like me, and I've been told I'm fun to be around. The cloud still doesn't go away. I have enough empathy to realize how devastated my friends and family would be if I were to commit suicide, which makes the guilt and feelings amplified even more. I am disgusted with myself, my life up until this point. My thoughts stab like 1000 knives and I truly wish I was selfish enough to just use a real one and be done with this place. I just cant imagine my parents and little brother standing over my grave. My ancestors disappointment with all the opportunity they sewed for me to even be able to vomit these words out into the empty, digital void. Unable to live, unable to die. Afflicted and miserable at the end of the night. Trudging through the day with a fake smile on my face so I don't bring this disgusting aura into anyone else's life. I wish I could rip myself apart and build myself back up again as a new being. Maybe people are right when they say Earth is hell.
I ain't reading All that 😂
We all carry the weight of despair alone. Because every moment of our lives there are people pretending to care, pretending to want to hear from you. No one can convince me that a therapist will help or listen if he or she is not paid for it. The only thing we can do for people with suicidal thoughts is to be there, to be present. Don't say anything, act, and they will see truth in you when you reach them to help.
My thoughts exactly. Talk to people who really don’t care? No thanks
I'm not suicidal but I still relate to this, Ive always had trust issues with certain people but the one person I trusted most just ghosted me recently, and it kinda shattered whatever line between trust and distrust that I had, I don't know anymore who's actually giving a damn about me
I like how simple his advice is. Thank you
"Maybe you don't actually WANT to die. Perhaps you just want to kill the part of yourself that hurts?"
- An Angel I once met.
I love this and will definitely refer to this in the future ❤
Here are my versions that saved me and turned my life around:
It's not really your body you want to kill, but the vice and poison that is torturing you. Think about it. If you can find the strength to kill yourself, then you can find the strength to kill your poison.
It's not the pain that destroys us, it's the things we do to avoid it.
If your life is so painful that you constantly want to die, then you can handle the pain of making all the right decisions to improve your life. You are already in hell, you are already supporting the worst. It might even get better, who knows? Try something new.
“Stay alive just to spite the f*ckers who’d wish you dead.”
- A devilsh Angel I once met
If a person wants to die it's because they don't see the solution to their situation any longer and usually they've used all the tools they had to fix things. It's the state of complete hopelessness where you stop caring or not caring about anything, even your children. There's nothing, no pain, no joy, no colour, no morning no evening, just deadly indifference and the only thing that makes sense is "I don't want to exist in this state any more". This is how I felt. At some point even pain stops and if all feelings stop you know you're in trouble. A person who still fights feels pain or joy or anything but they feel.
everything hurts
I have no family and no one who cares to tell. The thought of going to a hospital scares the hell out of me!
How about me?
Yeah, tell us. Could you throw in a couple of chases and a gunfight into the story though, for entertainment value? And aliens too! And a chapter of Space Marines that saves the day.
If you are reading this like I am… you are not alone. Thank you Sr. This was just what I needed to hear.
Thank you Dr. Peterson. You’ve made a significant impact on the man I’ve become today.
yes i do. an suicide is not a burden. its a decision someone makes when they are unable to cope with the brutal reality of the world on their own and choose to end their misery.
we are all alone. any and all sorts of relationships are your coping mechanisms you adhere to and call reality so as to make some sense of it.
A big reason people socialise or get in relationships is purely to not feel alone. Accept that you are a singularity and become self-serving and independent and you wont feel so alone anymore
@@LuckyNobody1 you are a singularity. but if you become self serving only, it becomes a problem for you and everybody around you. and yes to independence. you are a singularity indeed. but you dont need to stop at self serving. help others realise they are a singularity too.
@pr00009 Yeah, that's what is so great about self-improvement. You work on becoming a better person and more independent. Part of being a better person is treating those around you and who you come across with more respect and kindness. Stop adhering to social norms or trying to fit in and just work on being a version of yourself that you can be proud of, i wish i had someone explain this to me sooner
@@LuckyNobody1 dont beat yourself up. youd be surprised how uncommon that mindset is. your own biology is a bitch machine. you cant leave it unattended and let it do what it wants for even a second (within objective reason of course)
@@LuckyNobody1 Or you could just not exist anymore. There's that too
I was lost and in psycoses and I ate 700 morphine pills and slit my wrists really bad. I cant believe I would do that to myself. I am pretty shaken up from what I did but I am so grateful to be alive, i think God might have some plans for me still.
U of A represent! Love listening to you Dr. Peterson. I’ve struggled with these thoughts since I was a child, so thank you for the message 🌞
there is help
I've been depressed for a good 10 years and sometimes very suicidal. Even though I am mostly out of my depression I am still very socially isolated and everytime I feel rejected my suicidal thoughts come up again. But yesterday something happened that I want to share.
I felt rejected and thought about suicide and looked up suicide methods and found a good one and felt better because I felt like I had a way out of my misery. The problem with feeling rejected is not so much the rejection itself it is more the feeling that no matter what I try I can't get out of my social isolation in which I've been stuck for a good 20 years by now.
Anyway, after choosing how I might kill myself I thought about the other part, which is sending a letter to the police before I kill myself so they find my body soon after my death, not a few months later when I have become of the floor. That would be a huge mess and I don't wanna put that burden on the landlord. And for the first time I started to think about what I would actually write in that letter and that I should give them the name and address of my mother so they can contact her and tell that I killed myself and that I should warn them about what a mess my home is and that my mother would cry a lot and there would be a lot of family drama unraveling in that very moment. My "home", rather my mother and her abusive boyfriend, well let's say they live in a house with an army of dragons.
But as I was thinking about that I thought it would be quite unfair to involve the policemen in all that and leave that burden on them. And then I thought: "Well, why don't you do it yourself then?"
That quite hit me, not in a bad way, but more like an epiphany: "Yes, I should explain to my mother, that I have decided to kill myself. I owe it to the world, that I beforehand take care of the mess my suicide will create, instead of just sneaking out and leaving everyone else to handle the consequences."
Also just thought I should plan out my funeral beforehand and save up money for it...a well planned suicide is quite the ordeal.
But anyway, as I thought about this, I immediately felt this was futile. Not because I couldn't bring myself to tell her that I am gonna kill myself. But, that when I started to really think about it and have to make a case for why suicide is the correct option to take I weouldn't be able to convince myself. I would see that all my arguments are weak and easily dismissed.
"Suicide is the only option? Nonsense! You could just as well sell everything you have, take that money, move to another country and start all over. You could join the International Legion and fight in the Ukraine war. You could become an alcoholic or homeless and have sex with drug addicted young women that give you any disease known and unknown to medicine. You could take any conceivable risk on your life, because in the end, you would end up where you want to go to right now! And at any moment on that elongated journey towards death could you still decide to take a shortcut, if you so desire."
Well, like I said this happened yesterday, so I don't know what longterm effects that thinking has. But I hope that in the future I would rather commit myself to radical changes in my life and perhaps even tearing down everything I am and have, to start anew instead of laying in bed, being depressed and wanting to kill myself. Because if those radical changes fail I could still do that at any time I wanted to. Because part of "You can always kill yourself tomorrow!" is: "You don't have to do it now, but you can do it whenever you want to!" and that is a wonderful feeling if you are so so desperate in life.
Problem is the other options there are being homeless or dying in a war, lol. 'Bout where I am if I stay alive. I like the idea of really planning everything out, gives you a lot of chances to rethink.
I’m sorry you’re in so much pain, I’ve been close to suicide myself so you’re not alone, sending lots of compassion your way
@@marvin60000 Thank you :)
@stevo6891 I feel ya man. I too got rejected most of my life. Even by my parents. And it broke my soul a lot.
But over the last year I went to group therapy and it helped me. Talking about my fucked up past helped me to connect to people. And not all people, some rejected me like everyone else had previously. But many others liked me just the way I am and even said they were looking for a guy just like me.
I bet there are people out there who like you. You just have to find them. If nothing else try to find a self-help group and bond with people over how shit you feel.
They may not be your friends, but atleast you won't be alone with your problems.
And if none of this was helpful, feel free to tell me I am full of shit :)
How do you feel now? I hope you are doing better.
The only regret I have in life is that I didn't kms when I was a teenager (14-15). I had courage back then, but I stubbornly fought to make things better, thinking I can escape my situation somehow. I thought life would get better. And in many ways it did, but I still hate it every single day. I've simply grown comfortable, complacent. I don't have the energy to do anything about it anymore. Life won, it beat me. I just try not to think about how pointless and meaningless it all is by drowning myself in work. Hopefully some day my health will deteriorate to a point at which I can just let go of everything, the hate, the disappointment, the disgust.
But props to you Mr. Peterson, you're doing a good thing in this world.
I feel the same way. 57 now and the pain of living in this world is horrible. When I was younger I survived few attempts. I wish I could fall asleep and never wake up. Life has not been good to me.
When I was actively suicidal, it was the idea that my children will have that as the lasting memory of me. That stopped me. They would remember that, not the good times.
A friend of mine from when I lived in South Africa jumped in front of a train when I was 20. I actually really envy him because I know how deeply depressed he was, but his family already lost his mother when the kids were young and it has completely destroyed them losing Jason as well. I think about it often and the only thing stopping me is my Mum. In the most terrible selfish way I sometimes wish she wasn't there to hold me accountable and I could just get on with it. I feel no sadness thinking about death, only peace.
I'll say what helped me so far:
"Is this too much for me to bear? Can I really not handle just this moment, right now?"
Basically bring it from the abstract to the concrete and from the future/past to the present and see if its still too much.
- now I dont know if this will help me forever or anybody else but it certainly helped me in the past.
i am glad that you are still here and i hope you have a wonderful life i know this comment sound generic but it comes from the heart
Don't think to much, ask mother nature for help and she will heal her child
Shaming and guilting a burdened person about their desperate plea for release by ending their life, is NOT the way to comfort them nor discourage it.
People are awfully unaware of how cruel they are when they do this. It's emotional captivity.
I am so close to ending it. So much despair. Feel so alone
Are you still here? Please still be here
You're not alone, I think about it hourly i just don't want to hurt my family . Sending love to you
@@Ash-ty9nd even I’ve been doing better, there is hope for everyone
When your in that "zone" of such despair its truly a struggle . I dont want to take medication to feel like I want to be here..... Ive tried twice in my 20s and failed. The only reason I am here is for my son. But again...when your in that "zone" it gets difficult to fight
Struggled with anxiety, a couple thoughts that seem otherwise than commonly mentioned here. It probably isn't just one thing, fixing your diet will probably help, so will getting out of that relationship and finding a hobby, but there is probably a whole concert of things conspiring to keep you anxious and depressed. Addressing the concert piece by piece and aiming at cyclical improvement is better than looking for the one cause. Secondly, relative effort and win management matter. If you try taking risks or getting a hobby but you aim at something too difficult you'll only give you're anxiety and depression more fuel, make sure you succeed at plenty of what you try, rather than just trying the hardest things right out of the gate. And avoid hypervigilance, it's exhausting.
I saved one of your quotes. Thanks for the insight.
when someone has abused you for years, getting a divorce and will be homeless and lose my child. Im done
I’m really low right now. Don’t think I’ve ever been this low.
But it helps. It’s what keeps me going, my cousins, and my baby brother. He’s 16, but he is still the love of my life.
Jordan’s words pierce you, because he knows. He tells you what is it you are feeling, mentally and physically.
And it helps to know.
I don't think i can go much longer my mental is completely fucked i dont go a day without wanting to dissapear
you have a lot of company...sending best wishes
Then they'll call him the king of incels. It's sad how distant from reality some people are... those are the same people that speak of empathy, and al those fancy words.
Thank you Dr. Peterson for all that you do. Based on the feedback, your words pierce and heal the hearts of the lost.
Reading the newest comments on this video is really hitting home with me. I can't imagine talking to anyone about what I'm feeling. The everyday misery of living with this is impossible to describe to someone who is lucky enough never to have gone through it. Only the people posting comments here will understand.
My mood goes up and down all the time. On the up I think maybe everything will be ok, then suddenly I think "who are you kidding? This is hopeless!" and back down I go. They say hope is worse than despair, and I totally get that.
Reading the comments on here from people who are going through it has helped me a little bit.
I do have a problem with his last comments. I have worked with people with suicidal ideation and experienced it myself. Often shame is a core aspect and with that shame comes the tendency to always be doing things for others (because you believe you don’t have any value yourself).
Many people will say suicide is selfish while ignoring that one of the things that drove that person to that place was living a life of giving while getting nothing in return… maybe it is selfish, but perhaps having that persons death on their shoulders is just the natural consequences for those people objectifying that person. (Not saying this is the case for all suicides, but certainly for some).
I'm getting closer. Everyday is a struggle to just keep afloat but I don't even see a reason, much less a road to recovery.
The pain my family would feel is pretty much the only thing holding me here
Being suicidal and hearing that those closest to you would never recover can send your mind to some REALLY dark places, i.e. contemplating murder-suicide scenarios ("if they won't be able to live fully, then it's better that I take them with me"; although this of course would increase the collective hurt exponentially, not to mention the taking of innocent lives). Be very wary of providing this perspective to someone who's struggling.
That’s simply untrue. Being suicidal does not suddenly make you capable of murdering someone... wtf?
agree
As someone who struggles with depression and suicidal thoughts, the best advice I've ever heard is, "Do it tomorrow." Because if you can make it through today you can make through the next day, and the day after that, and eventually you can live for even a minute, and eventually you can live for an hour, and eventually you can live your life. Just don't do it today do it today, do it tomorrow.
Yeah, keep suffering everyday every minute. People that say that don’t know how it feels to really suffer.
🤷♂️ some of us have no ability to self harm, would if it were possible; but when there's no possibility for the future be anything but garbage you become aware that it would be better if it ended first.😊
Honestly my life has been a mess, depression has consumed my soul, the pain in my body has been ridicoulous, I am not physical ill, but my emotions had affected me, my choices believing what I was doing was right at that time, I tried to commit suicide many times but never had the strenght to commit it, even if I was suffering, there were still things motivating me to keep forward. Hope no one has to feel this kind of pain never.
do you know magic mushrooms? it could heal you from negative thoughts, slow and low is the start of new life
hope you're okay❤
Checking in, Carlo. You're so empathetic to not wish this on anyone, that's sign of a strength. And such strength to hold on and keep moving forward. It must feel so overwhelming at times though. One minute at a time, one day at a time, one foot in front of the other. ❤
Every day
I didn’t even think of that. I’ll wait for tomorrow. I got sober saying, “you can get high tomorrow “ over and over until the obsession left. And now here I am, sober 6 years later, but thinking, do it tomorrow. I’m tired and it won’t stop. That SUCKS!! I could never do it because of the thought of eternity scares me. Idk where I would go.
That's what I tell my parents who keep telling me to apply to jobs. "I can apply to jobs tomorrow"
Thanks, Mr Peterson
Thank you for your thoughts that give we believers practical tools when we are faced with individuals considering the final action of sin. God Bless.