Where could a guy find an om617 for a decent price (in the states) Or even a Om606 here in the western states I can only find a few and they are pretty expensive Any help would be appreciated
To be honest you will be hard pressed to find an om606 for any where near a descent price here in the US. I have been looking for one for a future project for 4 years now. I have yet to find one less than $3800. The 617s, if you watch fb marketplace closely, I see them show up multiple times a year for $800-$1200. I actually traded a $500 item for a running driving 300d a few years back. They are becoming harder to find, but keep your eyes peeled
Thanks man I will keep my eyes open and try to find something I am wanting to swap out my jkur motor for a mechanical diesel Thanks again and enjoy the power of the LS 6.0
is your alda in the stock position? why no intercooler? are your egts insane? does it hit 20 psi wastegated or is that all it will do? this is so cool I have a 92 toyota with a om617. I am doing a benzforce pump and now most likely a hx35
the alda is adjusted all the way out. Originally I took the alda apart and remove the internals before Benz force built my pump. so there was zero fuel restriction and then put it back on the pump. That would have grossly over fueled this engine after the pump was built. So a new alda was put on that actually functions LOL. I didn't have an intercooler on this one because it was a budget build, I am however doing one on my current build because it is a big power game. Egts do get high, I actually have a temperature sensor that I placed in my manifold so I can monitor its temp. A few minutes of hard acceleration with those high boost pressures you have to ease up keep from manifold heat damage. It is wastegated at 20 psi, I'm sure it has the ability to do more than that, however with the volume of air that an hx35 pushes at 20 psi is playing with fire with stock internals LOL. That's awesome! I love the Toyota's. You will be very happy with that pump, he does a good job. As far as the hx35 goes I couldn't be happier, you obviously don't build boost nearest quick as a factory turbo, but when the boost hits it's awesome. I'm working on a sequential twin turbo setup on my current one for low RPM boost with an hx35 turbo for the higher rpm boost. I'm going to make a video on how to make a hx35 turbo fit on the om617 properly here in a week or so
Sounds pretty sweet, if I were you I’d look into the R2.8 or the om606. The 606 can make way more power than the 617 and would be more suitable for a heavier vehicle. The r2.8 makes really good power out of the box and pretty much comes with everything you need.
I'm not a fan of the cummins 4 cylinders , they sound too much like a garden tractor more than a road diesel lol. I agree though, I most certainly want the om606. But like I mentioned in the video, I can't find any under 4k. I'm not paying that lol
You have to find one online that's listed as an E300 not "om606". If you look for "OM606's" you'll only find people selling at the higher rate. The E300 listings are regular people who think their car is just an old car. You can also find an NA 606 and turbo it. I have an NA 606 in my 6k lbs 1995 Ford F350.
if you work with older Mercedes diesels, they are mechanically fuel injected not electrical. So the way that you shut them off is to cut vacuum to the injection pump. There is a vacuum line running to the injection pump that has an internal vacuum run solenoid type piece inside of the pump. While the engine is running it is open, when you cut vacuum into it it closes and restricts fuel flow through the injection pump thus shutting the engine off.
@@TheRowdyJ nothing electronic except a wire to the alternator and starter. It doesn't produce vacuum from the intake like most of your engines do, it has a mechanical vacuum pump that creates vacuum via a gear running to the cam since the engine itself does not actually create any vacuum at all
I'm about to do the swap on my XJ and was wondering which gear to choose! I was hesitating between 4.56 and 4.88 with an NV3550. 8.8 swap in 35s. But when I saw your acceleration 4:05 , I think 4.56 will be more than enough. Great job man!
I was using the ax5 transmission, which is the factory five-speed manual transmission that come with the 2.5 l 4 cylinder jeeps. It held up for several years, however I recommend an ax15 if you're doing a swap in a TJ, yj, or cj. If you're doing a jk, the factory 6-speed transmission works good, I'm actually using a 700R4 automatic transmission for mine.
@@funtwns2_ I've done this swap to my jeep mj and though I haven't got the injection pump built just yet I've done an s ton of research. Whats the question(s)
@@funtwns2_ it is an hx35 turbo. Been running approximately 21 lb of boost. It's hard on those engines to do that especially not being intercooled, but I've successfully beat on this thing running high boost pressures and not had too many issues
Where could a guy find an om617 for a decent price (in the states)
Or even a Om606 here in the western states I can only find a few and they are pretty expensive
Any help would be appreciated
To be honest you will be hard pressed to find an om606 for any where near a descent price here in the US. I have been looking for one for a future project for 4 years now. I have yet to find one less than $3800. The 617s, if you watch fb marketplace closely, I see them show up multiple times a year for $800-$1200. I actually traded a $500 item for a running driving 300d a few years back. They are becoming harder to find, but keep your eyes peeled
Thanks man I will keep my eyes open and try to find something
I am wanting to swap out my jkur motor for a mechanical diesel
Thanks again and enjoy the power of the LS 6.0
is your alda in the stock position?
why no intercooler?
are your egts insane?
does it hit 20 psi wastegated or is that all it will do?
this is so cool I have a 92 toyota with a om617. I am doing a benzforce pump and now most likely a hx35
the alda is adjusted all the way out. Originally I took the alda apart and remove the internals before Benz force built my pump. so there was zero fuel restriction and then put it back on the pump. That would have grossly over fueled this engine after the pump was built. So a new alda was put on that actually functions LOL. I didn't have an intercooler on this one because it was a budget build, I am however doing one on my current build because it is a big power game. Egts do get high, I actually have a temperature sensor that I placed in my manifold so I can monitor its temp. A few minutes of hard acceleration with those high boost pressures you have to ease up keep from manifold heat damage. It is wastegated at 20 psi, I'm sure it has the ability to do more than that, however with the volume of air that an hx35 pushes at 20 psi is playing with fire with stock internals LOL. That's awesome! I love the Toyota's. You will be very happy with that pump, he does a good job. As far as the hx35 goes I couldn't be happier, you obviously don't build boost nearest quick as a factory turbo, but when the boost hits it's awesome. I'm working on a sequential twin turbo setup on my current one for low RPM boost with an hx35 turbo for the higher rpm boost. I'm going to make a video on how to make a hx35 turbo fit on the om617 properly here in a week or so
did you do anything t the connecting rods, or are they stock?
Yes, connecting rods are stock. These engines are very strong on stock internals
Sounds pretty sweet, if I were you I’d look into the R2.8 or the om606. The 606 can make way more power than the 617 and would be more suitable for a heavier vehicle. The r2.8 makes really good power out of the box and pretty much comes with everything you need.
I'm not a fan of the cummins 4 cylinders , they sound too much like a garden tractor more than a road diesel lol. I agree though, I most certainly want the om606. But like I mentioned in the video, I can't find any under 4k. I'm not paying that lol
You have to find one online that's listed as an E300 not "om606". If you look for "OM606's" you'll only find people selling at the higher rate. The E300 listings are regular people who think their car is just an old car. You can also find an NA 606 and turbo it. I have an NA 606 in my 6k lbs 1995 Ford F350.
nice. whats the vacuum cut off switch for? im not familiar with benz stuff.
thanx! USN
if you work with older Mercedes diesels, they are mechanically fuel injected not electrical. So the way that you shut them off is to cut vacuum to the injection pump. There is a vacuum line running to the injection pump that has an internal vacuum run solenoid type piece inside of the pump. While the engine is running it is open, when you cut vacuum into it it closes and restricts fuel flow through the injection pump thus shutting the engine off.
@@Steel-Gunner oh ok. but what happens when it goes under boost and loses vacuum?
i thought they were electric like cummins
@@TheRowdyJ nothing electronic except a wire to the alternator and starter. It doesn't produce vacuum from the intake like most of your engines do, it has a mechanical vacuum pump that creates vacuum via a gear running to the cam since the engine itself does not actually create any vacuum at all
How much boost are you running and are you running stock turbo
Been regularly running approximately 20 lb of boost, it is an hx35 turbo off of a 5.9 l Cummins
Gear ratio?
Justin manse it has a .410 gear ratio
I'm about to do the swap on my XJ and was wondering which gear to choose!
I was hesitating between 4.56 and 4.88 with an NV3550. 8.8 swap in 35s.
But when I saw your acceleration 4:05 , I think 4.56 will be more than enough.
Great job man!
How much power I’m thinking about doing it to my xj
I never had it dyno'd, I know a friend of mine had a V8 in his Jeep, and I had much more than his 350 could ever dream of having.
dieselpump UK make pumps up to 500 hp
Is this stock or with a 7.5mm injection pump?
This is stock injection pump modified with 7.5mm plungers
What transmission are you using?
I was using the ax5 transmission, which is the factory five-speed manual transmission that come with the 2.5 l 4 cylinder jeeps. It held up for several years, however I recommend an ax15 if you're doing a swap in a TJ, yj, or cj. If you're doing a jk, the factory 6-speed transmission works good, I'm actually using a 700R4 automatic transmission for mine.
@@Steel-Gunner hows that combo working out for you., im having issues with mine.
@@diegobecerra6664 what combo are you speaking of?
stock turbo?
No, this is an hx35 turbo
@@Steel-Gunner ah. i bought an he221w. havent installed it yet.
@@TheRowdyJ those are great turbos, they spool very quickly. They are kind of limited on the top end, but a great choice for a 617
What kind of transmission are you running?
This one on particular had the stock ax5 transmission
What turbo are you using and How much boost are you running
He's running the hx35
@@robwilliams9157 damn I am still running stock turbo
I have a lot of questions for y’all because I did this to my keep Yj
@@funtwns2_ I've done this swap to my jeep mj and though I haven't got the injection pump built just yet I've done an s ton of research. Whats the question(s)
@@funtwns2_ it is an hx35 turbo. Been running approximately 21 lb of boost. It's hard on those engines to do that especially not being intercooled, but I've successfully beat on this thing running high boost pressures and not had too many issues