Confronted by a CLUELESS Security Guard who threatened to TAKE our drone!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2023
- Armed with information, we thwarted an attack by this clueless security guard at a public city park in Nashville.
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Although she was incorrect, she showed you more respect than you showed her.
You were a little short with her and she handled it well. As you know not all security people are informed of the real deal. Right there with ya it's super frustrating.
It's not his job to do her research for her to do her job.
She needs to take her job seriously.
He has every right to be short or long.
It's not illegal and rude is subjective.
Oh yea I agree with you 100%. Rude was no where in my comment he handled it way better than I would have. It's just the incompetence lately in people just doing thier job is mind boggling ....and it was obvious she was incompetent .
And be educated or let go in my opinion!
Lawl it's her literal job, maybe she needs to not make up bullshit on the spot to feel powerful because she can't cut it in a real security job
Seems to me from exchange she was sent by her superiors to confront him. She totally retreated when she Ken pushed back. In long run she didn't care. She did what her supervisor asked her and left. I'm sure she was like "this is above my pay grade"
There had BETTER be a part 2...LOL, you can't leave us hanging like that!
They always leave the viewers hanging to think did they ever get it done or wat let's go get it.haha no drone some one got it
yeah i hope there a part 2 come on ... big thumbs up tho
A lot of places have a "no drone" policy. Doesn't make it legal or enforceable, but they will still ask you to leave every time. So when the lowest paid rep from the company comes out to deliver the message, it doesn't mean she is clueless or needs to educate herself. She was doing what she was paid to do, deliver a message. Then ya'll shot the messenger. I hope you all go back and get the Solo 3DR down, looks pretty cool.
If you go to the Nashville City Park site, it states that you can not launch or land drones in the majority of the parks in Nashville. It's a city ordinance folks.....
Wishful thinking.
@@KenHeron Wishful thinking on who's part ? Have you read the Parks ordinance ? If you have a license to fly, you should be checking. Or, just be the guy that eventually gets in trouble which makes the rest of us look bad.....
Well see the thing is ordinances are not laws and therefore not enforceable, any open airspace is controlled by the FAA and that is the sole party who can decide airspace’s.
Did you ever think of having the drone carry a grappling device lik you had but attached to a long string. The drone attaches the hook to the dron and lets go of the string where someone on the ground grabs the string and yanks the other drone off the roof?
This is a really good idea. I hope he sees your comment and tries to do that
It’s a great idea. If you don’t mind destroying the drone, you’re trying to recover as it falls to the ground…
@@jeffellis6544 Not if they catch it.
Better to have a busted drone than no drone at all 🤷♂️😁
This isn’t Ukraine, highly illegal to do that!
Even knowing you were right, you can listen and respect the other people too, i fly my drone alot but if someone doesnt want me to fly i dont
Ken was actually wrong. Metro Parks is not able to permit the use of drones in parks outside of designated flying areas for any purpose, including photography or filming. Metro Ordinances require that no person shall voluntarily bring, land or cause to descent or alight within or upon any park, any airplane, flying machine, balloon, parachute, or other apparatus for aviation (which includes drones). Drone flight is not allowed in Nashville Metro Parks except in three designated areas: Warner Park, Peeler Park, and Cane Ridge. A permit is necessary to fly drones in these designated areas.
Ref Code of Ordinances Sec 13.24.400"
Yep, we have to be good Ambassadors to the hobby. Confrontational behavior like that sets precedent for others.
I see why you felt a bit bad with the security guard meeting, she was being polite and friendly enough..
The security guard was being nice and polite. You came off sounding like a smart..ss
Well because he is right lmfao. If it’s open airspace, you can fly there as long as you’re not violating any regulations like going out of line of sight or getting too close to people and vehicles
She was about as non confrontational as she could get and was trying to help.
The regret stated at the restaurant was spot on.
Should have looked for the guard to appologize
I don’t blame people for not being informed….some folks don’t even know about these flying birds……they don’t know what they don’t know……so I give them some free information and it works out 100% of the time. Great video guys❤
Typical “muh drone” fad consoomer losers like you and your bootlick fetish.
@@kishascape mad huh? Lol
@@kishascape I actually like trains I’ll sub to your channel.
Even those, who think that they know the rules, don't know that the rules are unconstitutional! Flyin free baby!
That was a heart racing moment. Glad you didn't lose the drone.
Sorry, but "Paula Blart" was more correct than you think. While the city can't regulate flying over something like a park (the FAA owns that) they can, and do regulate and can enforce where you takeoff and land. Nashville Metro Code: 13.24.400 - Aviation.
"No person shall voluntarily bring, land or cause to descend or alight within or upon any park, any airplane, flying machine, balloon, parachute, or other apparatus for aviation. "Voluntarily," in this connection shall mean anything other than a forced landing. Any landing other than one caused by mechanical or structural failure of the aircraft or any of its parts shall be deemed to have been made voluntarily, and this shall include landings caused by error or oversight, negligence or failure to comply with FAA regulations or rulings. This section is to be construed in pari materia with Section 13.24.240 of this code. This section shall not apply to parachuting activities in conjunction with the Tennessee Women's Suffrage Centennial Celebration in Centennial Park."
He is correct
Excellent Rescue Video. Thank You Ken, Barkley, and Keith.
In addition to FAR, Illinois has had a specific statute since 2018 - no jurisdiction below State level can make any rules/regulations about unmanned air traffic (because they can't anyway). Just the same, YEARS later, lots of local park districts (etc.) still "prohibit" unmanned aircraft from flying above their facilities. 🙄
That 3DR is a heavy drone. Thats the first drone I ever had.
Loved it ken. Bro that was a close call. I almost had a heart attack 😮
Enjoyed that!!! Thanks Ken and Co. !!!
I'm sure there will be a part 2. Ken felt bad for being short with that security guard. Everyone knows Ken is a good dude, so I'm sure he's going to have a talk with her. Afterall, she doesn't know anything about drones, and I'm sure was told by someone above her, who is also not informed. She was just doing her job. Ken knows it.
The security guard was right.
He's a "good dude" I think your standards are low.
Kissed the Gargoyle and lived to brag about it.
as former security with all due respect please take it easy on them, remember they are PAID SECURITY, they’re not the police, they’re just doing what they’re told and often don’t know the full extent of the law.
"We'll wait for the people with the metal badges...". Thanks, Ken. Now I'm cleaning coffee off my keyboard! 🤣
🤣👍
I work for the city of Nashville and have seen many tickets given to drone flyers in our parks ...including the one you were in . "Metro Parks is not able to permit the use of drones in parks outside of designated flying areas for any purpose, including photography or filming. Metro Ordinances require that no person shall voluntarily bring, land or cause to descent or alight within or upon any park, any airplane, flying machine, balloon, parachute, or other apparatus for aviation (which includes drones). Drone flight is not allowed in Nashville Metro Parks except in three designated areas: Warner Park, Peeler Park, and Cane Ridge. A permit is necessary to fly drones in these designated areas.
Ref Code of Ordinances Sec 13.24.400
The reason why they're not able to permit is because they are not the FAA. Thank you very much for watching. If you need more information: kenheronupload@gmail.com
Another Kentastic video. Your flying skills and some dang good luck saved the P4 😮. I love the outtakes. Thanks for sharing.
Always a tense situation when approached. You did well sir!
Guys , I'm with you . I'd like to be able to fly my drone alot more places than I'm "allowed" to . And it looks like you guys are still trying to stay within the law . But I think you guys are kidding yourselves if you think you're being at all responsible by colliding that drone into the building and then flying the damaged drone over cars and people . I know that gargoyle is made of concrete or something similar but depending on the condition of that concrete you could still do damage or knock off a loose piece. I'm in construction. And I cringe when I see people do shit like this .
Hey Ken great video man! I think you handled that situation in the beginning very well. I'm sure as much as you fly you get approached often and I have seen you be so polite to people that are just nasty to your face. Just politely informed them and keep doing as you are! 👍👍 Btw Barkley seems like a really good guy to have around in a critical situation, lol very calm and informing you the whole time. Great PRM "pilot Resource Management"
Damn. I kinda felt bad for her the way you shut her down so fast. 🤣 She did seem like a nice lady. This is the problem with society these days...well informed old white men! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ive used my phantom 3 4K to rescue a couple and I feel the adrenaline from here!
“Oh boy, here we go” at the beginning bruh I wish I had that level of confidence!!
We all love a self appointed hexpert 😂😂
An incident occurred on September 3, 2023 and the PA State police now have my Air 2S. I was filming a hyper lapse video of the sunset when I received a critical battery error (my own stupidity) and the drone made an emergency landing about 400 meters from home. I could see that it had landed on a neighbors property and waited until the next morning to go there and ask permission to search. When I did they told me that they had found it and called the police who came and took the drone. I was happy to hear that it was found and figured that all I needed to do was call, explain what happened, and go retrieve it from them. I made that call on September 4 and was told that the officer involved would have to call me back. I waited a few days without hearing a word then he finally contacted me. He informed me that I wouldn't be getting the drone back soon if at all because there had been other complaints, about drone flyers in my neighborhood. I explained that I could easily prove that there was no malicious intent on my part by showing him the flight logs. I also told him that everything I filmed would be on the memory card in the drone and, if he removed the battery, he would find a sticker with my name, address and phone number on it. He didn't want to hear that though and was very arrogant and downright rude when he told me that he was gathering everyone in the area who had complained and they were taking me to court. When I inquired about a timeline he said that he couldn't even start the 'investigation' until he gets off of 3rd shift. Its been a month and he still has not started the investigation. Since then I've done some research and found that civil forfeiture laws exist that allow them to keep property indefinitely even if there are never any charges or arrests made.
The fact that she didnt come back a second time must mean she got told otherwise the second time :)
Thanks!
No problem!
LOL great job my friend!!
I like seeing these drone rescue missions. You need different gizmos to retrieve these drones.
Get em Ken. Lol. Smooooooooth
Word is that the security guard is still waiting on an apology.
Glad it's still working!!!
Bloopers😂
Well done mate!
Lawl it's her literal job, maybe she needs to not make up bullshit on the spot to feel powerful because she can't cut it in a real security job
Entertaining for sure 😲 enjoyed so much.
Nice save. Yes, you would have been better off educating the security guard.
I have a drop mechanism for my mini 2. It can lift half a pound, I tested it, and if it gets stuck I can trigger the drop mechanism, that might have been better for you. They also make them for larger dji drones. They're pretty cool, and super cheap, they're just a servo with a receiver and a slide arm.
Really wow i never seen that before. where you get it from and whats it called? ive seen homemade stuff with servos on rc places so im assuming your using a seperate tx & rx? Do you have the folding landing gear on yours or no? My drone is super low to the ground and it cant really even land in grass without it chopping up the grass lol..
But thats cool, i wonder if they have that for the dji mini 3 pro.. That thing can stay up in some serious wind that would give my bigger drones a hard time, its incredible. I wonder how much weight it could pull, probably not much but the motors and esc seem strong.
Ive heard great things about the mini 2 and i want to pick one up to have with the mini 3 or maybe ill go for a bigger dji drone like the air2/2s. But the Avata is really tempting to me plus then i could use the goggles and controller for a FPV drone..that i dont have yet lol..
FPV is also cool on a rc plane i like flying it from like the cockpit area where i have the camera mounted and it almost feels like a crappy graphics simulator with the analog fpv lol but it works and its pretty damn cheap.
@@mxracingunlimitedltd7784
Remote drone cargo dropper .
$30 i think it was .
The drop a grappling hook or wire net on a fishing line leading down to a guy on the ground to do the actual muscle power needed idea . Point the camera down .
Amazom $ 29.99" top race remote cargo dropper for drone ."
Or object dropper .
They have a bunch of different kinds on thingyverse to 3d print I've made a few of them and they work great
I'm wettin' my jockeys here lol. "oh, well we don't need ta listen to you"
Great video Ken! 👍
That 3DR Solo was probably heavier than your Phantom 4, nice try though, you almost got it to the edge of the roof. Glad you were able to recover and not loose you P4 up there. And you even avoided another run in with the security guard. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Pulled a friend's drone out of the top of a tree in a similar fashion. His drone fell to the ground once free. He ran to catch it and tripped over a tree root, and ended up in the ER for a broken collar bone. But... we got his drone back!
Ken, stop letting them bully you. You know the law, educate them.
Educate them Ken lol.
You are Soooo lucky that you didn't leave your P4P up there as well. I once designed a similar grapple..but added a velcro type break away device..just in case the object was too heavy to lift.
THAT was an amazing save! Or an amazing stroke of luck. 😄
Great Video as always !
Like I said before. Legend.
Hahaha imagine a good sunny day in the park " The Flying Drone Phone Snatcher " :D
It will great to see if the 3DR solo drone fell from the building
A few years back I was taking video of a historic sight for a local park department and my Mavic 2 got stuck in a tree. I devised a very similar grappling hook solution with a stick and a roll of poop bags I found on premesis then sent my Air 2 up to retrieve the Mavic 2 pro. I hooked it perfectly, pulled the drone slightly upward and then... my air 2's engines errored out and did an emergency shut off sending the air 2 toppling to the ground and leaving the M2P stuck in the tree. The next day my work hired a tree trimmer to go retrieve the M2P, apparently they didn't quite understand the assignment because we basically paid them $400 to gently retrieve the drone with their ladders and they literally showed up on site and threw a rock at it knocking the drone from the tree.
GREAT EFFORT!!
I get your frustration Ken; I would be too but she was so nice and trying to what she thought was right.
She took your drone. She can’t do that that’s a crime she’s gonna get charged for this she’s not very bright.😂😂😂
This is why I swear by prop guards
I can't believe that drone is 3LB I wonder how good it flew. Great Vid Ken..
So you put in your log book, "Replaced props due to gargoyle encounter"?
Ahh , please thank the security officer, she was pretty cool.
Oh and please make another video trying to recover that drone so I get some closure.
I like how they used cop/security car to put all gear
Great attempt. Lots of fun.
The drone on the roof is a 3D Robotics Solo with Master Airscrew props, a Gopro Hero 4, and a very hard to find 3DR gimbal. Worth retrieving. These drones have a huge following still and the replacement parts pool is shrinking rapidly. These were $2k drones, pre DJI Phantom era, heavily touted as the first "smart drone". They were way ahead of their time. Used 3DR Solos can be found for $300 without the gimbal all day long, but fetch a premium with the gimbal and Hero 4 Black, the only camera that works with it plug and play for full function. New Solos can only be acquired through the 3DR $20K enterprise package, last I heard. Mine weighs in at almost 4 lbs all up with gear and flies great. Fast, nimble, and built rock solid. Still my favorite drone to fly on jobs with my Typhoon H a close 2nd.
I can't believe you regained that phantom after the crash. It's all those fpv skills coming through. 😉😁🤙
Yea i saw the plastic fly and i thought he lost two or three props but thats pretty good for the little damage it really had and the software plus the motor thrust up is what made that happen but id say there was at least a small amount of luck and then relief lol
The law in UT about flying over property has an extremely vague and badly defined clause in it that businesses try to use all the time to say "you can't fly over us." One in particular is extremely aggressive about it as well, and it's a very popular one to get footage of. It's such a vague provision that it's literally unenforceable but they all scream about it and call the cops who don't have a clue what to do with it really.
Good save Ken!!
Man so close!! I was feeling frustrated with you when the security rolled up its a shame that most of them do not know or understand airspace rules. They think park means no flyzone but that's for National Parks not public parks. Hope they get some education on that. Awesome adventure and I'm glad you did not loose the phantom! 🤟👏👍
she just jealous of him
Wow, that was a close call 😂
I like how you guys place all your sh*t on top of the security car. 🤣😂
Be nice. We have enough people with bad attitudes. Like your videos though. Keep up the great work.
grow a pair.
Man that gargoyle got the best of you!! Now this makes me want to test out how much my evo2 will lift. Without the gargoyle...lol 3.3 lbs but with that action cam you might have about 4lbs. Great video as always Ken.
Another day, another Mall cop dealt with.
Have you ever thought of telling the security: "I understand you, but I have obtained permission from the FAA, the Federal Aviation Administration, under their authority pursuant to 49 U.S.C. § 44807, § 44809, and 14 C.F.R. § 107.13. I've printed this on business card sized sheets of paper to hand to anyone that confronts me. I then ask them to contact the FAA. Works like a charm.
Good idea.
That was awesome. Do some more acrobatics please!
Almost lost a P4 on the Parthenon 🏛️
More horsepower! Send it to a TUNER!
You can’t beat the P4Pro. I agree Ken, it’s still my favourite as well.
I love it!
Awesome video Ken! so entertaining 😃
Drag it over the edge instead of trying to pick it up.
Wicked attempt Ken loved your vid.
Greetings from UK 😊
I have nowhere near the experience of Ken flying my drone. I do hold my Part 107. I have found in my few interactions with those that know nothing that they prefer to stay that away. As calmly as I can I try to educate them that, despite their passion, they don't own the airspace over their house, a park, etc., but they don't care. They heard on the Internet that people are spying on houses to rob them or find kids to stare at, and that's it. They don't want to know more. They are convinced they have caught a criminal and they enjoy their ignorance. So disappointing.
Need more lift! Time to break out the Inspire 2! Because why not try to save a $300 drone with a $5000 drone, right?
Ken: What part of the FAA are you from?
SG: I'm not part of the FAA
Ken: We dont have to listen to you
LMAO!
I’ve flown there a few times before and I’ve never been told I can’t fly there before
Ken you are one lucky man.....I was yelling at the Video .....NO NO NO PULL UP PULL UP.....I almost had a heart attack. I also have a Phantom 4 Pro.
You could put the hook on a release and on a longer string. Hook it with the drone , release the hook, pull the string from the ground . Could have a trash bag a few feet up the string from the hook to act as a parachute.
Seriously need some education for local security and cops that the FAA preempts whatever they want to enact. They don't own the air and can't ban overflight.
Had some karen yell at me me saying I couldn't fly at their park, or within 100 feet of their structure in class G airspace, which is of course comically wrong, and of course I did it anyway while standing one foot outside the property line
By default, drone flight is allowed in public parks and state parks. However, each park district has the authority to create orders that prohibit or regulate drone flight in their respective parks. This can take the form of absolute restriction, designated hours for drone flight, or a requirement for drone pilots to secure a permit prior to flying their drones.
Metro Parks is not able to permit the use of drones in parks outside of designated flying areas for any purpose, including photography or filming. Metro Ordinances require that no person shall voluntarily bring, land or cause to descent or alight within or upon any park, any airplane, flying machine, balloon, parachute, or other apparatus for aviation (which includes drones). Drone flight is not allowed in Nashville Metro Parks except in three designated areas: Warner Park, Peeler Park, and Cane Ridge. A permit is necessary to fly drones in these designated areas.
Ref Code of Ordinances Sec 13.24.400"
0:27 was SAVAGE from Ken 🤣
maybe it's because spry, but imagine not scampering up a column like a squirrel to get your quad after crashing. INCREDIBLE recovery after the gargoyle smack. A+
Close, but KARMA won! Thanks for sharing!
we're going to need a bigger boat
I love your Crown Vic. I used to own one and I miss her everyday!
Nice Ken!