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Could this be the BEST trimmer ever made???
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- This little trimmer adapter made by Lee is my “go to” trim setup from now on...it’s a great addition to my Lyman Case Prep Xpress and if you’re tight on space for the reloading bench then this is the trimming solution for you! Super simple design and setup...it doesn’t get much better than that! Y’all have a good one!
I'll say these case prep centers are a game changer when you have ALOT of ammo to build, saves time.
I've been a reloader and shooter, both hunting and competitively for over 60 years. I don't claim to be any sort of expert but I have encountered a few things along the way in regards to reloading. I started by helping my dad reload in the late 1950's for his police revolver. Now to the subject at hand.
I've used the Lee trimmers for years BUT there's a step that must be addressed. The flashhole must be deburred first. The trimmer pilot ultimately comes to rest on the case head interior. However, if there are shards protruding on the inside of the case from the primer flashhole punching process the pilot is elevated above the inside head base producing a longer OAL. Additionally, if the flash hole is deburred too deeply the tapered end of the pilot will drop below the bases inner surface thus excessively trimming the case. That being said I do use the Lee pilot system but only after carefully deburring the inner flashhole lightly by hand to provide a uniform surface for the pilot to rest upon, making sure the deburred divet is kept as small as possible. But cartridge case head thicknesses often vary widely even among the same brand and lot as well. The principle behind trimming is to obtain a uniform case neck length for correct bullet tension as well as preventing the case mouth from jamming itself against the chambers forward surface ( OAL). The length of the case neck, shoulder setback and the overall case length are all critical to a great degree to produce the most consistent and accurate loads. By using the shoulder headspace datum point and the case head base as trimming reference irregularities incurred with the pilot trimming process are minimized.
I do use the Lee pilot trimmers on rounds I load for both plinking and close range hunting, usually as a time saving move. For my match and long range hunting rounds I use an LE Wilson, Hornady or Redding micrometer adjustable trimmer to eliminate any irregularities with flashhole or case head thicknesses to produce identical round to round loads that usually produce 1/4 - 1/2 MOA groups all day long.
Lee makes good products and the majority of the dies that I use are Lee and they produce excellent and truly accurate ammunition. It's attention to the little nit picky things that make the difference ultimately.
This is just not true. It would defeat the entire purpose of the design if the shoulder of the length gauge made contact with anything inside the case. They specifically make the pilot pin that goes through the flash hole almost an eighth of an inch longer to keep this from happening. Check it and see for yourself by inserting the length gauge into a case, by itself without the cutter installed.
Furthermore. Brass with punched flash holes is garbage. Throw that shit out. You'll save yourself a lot of prep time by spending a little extra money on quality brass that has drilled flash holes. Not to mention, more uniformity on thickness and weight. Which, by the way, will yield way better groups down range.
I went this route about a year ago. It is consistent and fast. I trim my 357 and 38 spl and the diff in accuracy is amazing. Good job putting this out for everybody to see.
I used these Lee trimmers when I had first stated reloading as they are economical and very accurate in consistency. Then I moved onto a Forester lathe trimmer.. that's just a little more consistent.. Recently I've been using the Lee quick trim. Have only one die for it right now and that's the grendel. I think I like that more then all as it does all 3 steps in trimming.
Enough rambling.. good video on the Lee trimmer.
Hey hey fellow alabamian here, first off I love see Bama folks on the interwebs. Let's me know we aren't forgotten. 2nd, I'm bout 7.5 hrs south of Huntsville. Anyways, this is awesome idea. It'll save a lot of money if your looking to load only specific calibers.
This is great. I always used the Lee trimmers but didn't like doing them by hand or putting them on a drill. Even though I don't like it, that's how I do it because I hate having to dial in a trim length every time I switch cartridges. I will be doing this. I've been wanting a prep center anyway. This is icing on the cake.
Thanks man! Just ordered one for my Lyman case prep!
Great stuff! Thank you! I was looking at the case trimmer express by Lyman at 150 bucks, but this is changing my mind since I already have the case prep station.
Hey I'm a Mfg Engineer too😁. Great video and I've used the Lee cutter for years and am very happy with it for a couple of reasons. I love cranking out bolt action accurate ammo. To achieve that I have learned that I need to keep it simple and keep it repeatable. The Lee trimmer requires no adjustments. What you see is what you get and what you get is consistency. I don't need adjustability and actually don't want it. When I get my reamer ground for new barrels, I make the neck 010in longer than the tools trim length and it has worked flawlessly. Thanks for the demo!
Tanks for posting, seems like a more sufficient way to prep casings.
i saw this guy earlier : chat And Prep - Lyman Case Prep Express + Lee Case Length Gauge And Lock Stud - 5.56 Lake City Brass - and he did it too.. between YOU and HIM, I am convinced now, to do this exact thing. I think it is a great idea and time saver!! great video
You're a hero, Thank you! I ordered this and its arriving any day now. I'm about to go nuts on some 223!
Awesome!
I recently invested in the lee trimmer for my Lyman prep center and I love it since I use the reloading manual trim size so the trimmer tip was a little long so I used a file very lightly till I got the size I wanted
It’s a great way to have consistency and it saves some space on the bench as well!
Coming to this late.....
I hope you still read comments!
This is very much appreciated! I'm thinking about a 300 hamr, not exactly a standard round! I want to cut the cases down and trim from 556 brass, but didn't want to spend a ton on a trimmer for this one caliber. $30 in additoon to exisitng equipment will get me trimmed. Thanks😊!
Holy carp I can't believe I didn't know this..... thank you.
Those are great! I use it with a cordless drill.
Perfect 👍🏼
Great idea, this is a great video, you are exactly right, trimming off the shoulder is not as accurate, fast maybe but that's it, I'm using the lee one chucked in my dewalt ¹/4" driver, but have over 1000 to do, it's do dang slow, this may be a better move. thanks for great video
i chuck my holder in a cordless and do the 3, trim deburr and cham, and during a good chat or how-to vid it goes pretty quick...yea simple is good 👍
I have the same case prep center and I may have to pick up one of these adapters. I have the cutter and lock stud for the cartridges I reload, and I use them in a cordless drill. I enjoy all aspects of reloading except for trimming brass
I HIGHLY recommend the adapter…I’ve had zero issues with it and it works great in my process.
@@alabamareloader thanks for the endorsement. I will definitely pick one up. In my opinion, Lee makes great reloading equipment.
Definitely wish I woulda found this video sooner
I took my lock stud and epoxy it into a wooden ball to make it easier to hold onto. Some people use GOLF balls to hold the lock stud, Uncle Jim has a video I think he epoxyed in a socket to hold his lock stud. But yeah this is great use of making the case prep center even more enjoyable to use.
Nice!!!
Even though its wobbling ?
Greetings from NY, Alabama it’s an interesting video. How is the concentricity? is it an even cut? I’ve noticed theirs wobble.
I was wondering the same thing.
#teamLee
How old is your prep station because it’s LOUD. If the bits on mine weren’t spinning I wouldn’t know it was on.
Couple questions; with the way, the case is indexing on the Lee trimmer length guide is there any damage or ware going on inside the case on the rim of the flash hole? Also, in your video, I noticed that it was wobbling while it was running. I’m very interested in what you’re showing but that is kind of concerning.
Just curious but is the shell holder necessary ? Couldn't you just hold the shell in place ?
I just jump the gun today on this.... I should have did this a couple years ago.....
Is there a version that can be used in Europe....we have 230V...?
Thanks for any answer...greetz from the Netherlands
I tried this and it just doesn't work at all. The shell holder keeps loosening up when the machine is on and the gage doesn't want to screw into the cutter and requires pliers to tighten and remove. I don't know if I got a bad cutter with a rough hole or what but it is ridiculous. The cut is also not concentric because the shell holder keeps loosening. I really wanted to have this work but it doesn't.
I'd like to try this out with 38 special. From watching the video,and applying 38 special caliber, I think I need a Lee #90157 and Lee #90468.
But Im not sure if that includes what you locking the shell case into before it's put down over the cutter.
I did't want to order two parts when I actually needed three or four. Will I need a special shell holder, or will a RCBS /Redding do? What is that other part used with the shell holder? Thank you.
Those two you called out is exactly what you need. You won’t need a shell holder…#90157 will come with the appropriate shell holder for 38 Special
I've never used one of these. Does the tip really bottom out on the lock stud or does it run into the burr on the flash hole?
It bottoms out...it feeds through the flash hole just like a decapping pin.
The issue you’ll have using this setup is if you shoot undersized flash hole brass then you’ll need to grind down the diameter of the pin....I’ve done that on a couple decapping rods and it’s pretty easy with a Dremel tool.
@@alabamareloader I may have used the wrong words in my previous comment. Looking at the rod, it seems as if the shoulder just above the tip would bump up and down over the flashhole burr (if one is present) preventing consistant trim lengths. I wonder if it would be possible to machine the rod to both deburr the flashhole and bottom out to trim consistently.
@@luvtahandload7692 I like the way you think...I haven’t experienced that issue yet though.
So the Mfg Engineer takes a bunch of different components and assembles them in such a fashion as to be easier, nice I like it. Then the Operating Engineer (me) comes along and assists with the process to make it run smoother... Go get one of those 4 in 1 T- handle screwdrivers and slide your lock stud into the handle, maybe it'll help a little, it gave me faster case changes and easier grip. My 2 cents 2 years late... a penny for each year (Inflation).
Seems too slow for me. I've been using the Lyman Universal Electric Trimmer for years and its been great. May be good for low counts.
I may be the only one this has happened to….but I had one of these and it stopped working after trimming about 100 cases. It wouldn’t even turn on. Read the reviews on the websites.
The first one I bought from Cabelas wouldn’t even turn on…swapped it with the one I have now.
@@alabamareloader I ended up buying a Frankford Arsenal and its built like a tank. I’ve been happy with it so far. Hope you are doing well and Merry Christmas
@@laddlanier8072 that’s awesome and I’m doing well just staying busy with work and family life. Merry Christmas to you as well!
why so complicated just get an RCBS trim pro and a 3 way cutter, trim, bevel and taper it all at the same time DONE all in 1 step.
If you think it’s complicated then bless your heart.
I use to do it your way just figured out I can do it in 1 step and eliminate all those steps@@alabamareloader
Too slow
I can't figure out where to order the cutter for the prep center, CAN ANYBODY HELP