@@firionkaiser8291 Lurker sharks have families to feed too ya know? Why doesn’t anyone think of the lurker sharks and the pressure their wives put on their husbands to bring back food for the baby sharks? 😔
Yeah, the level works fine. I did a little bit of trickery to make the level load as you swim towards it and to extend the water volume so you can actually swim all the way over there, normally, you would start falling into the void after a while and the level would never load no matter how close you get to it.
@@HatKid You can load it actually. No idea what flag I triggered but I was flying around developer mode at a polygon geyser and it eventually did it. PS4 if it matters
@@Jay-LT_513 Yeah, even in the original PS2 game you can load at least some of the levels arbitrarily by using the debug cam if you manage to hit the trigger boxes correctly on the way. You can even load some levels out of order - I remember managing to noclip from Geyser Rock to Forbidden Jungle which usually isn’t possible unless you go through Sandover Village first. Though it seems like most of the time the game just crashes if you try doing that unfortunately.
There's no practical incentive to swim to geyser rock, yet we humans love to make fictional worlds feel authentic and true to themselves. This is much in the spirit of GOAL, with which Naughty Dog showcased seamless loading between distant areas.
Are you going from Sandover into a custom level that has more water, and then to Geyser? Or did you do some magic with the existing water volumes? I can see you used load triggers, that is clear. Just not sure how many. And you modified sharkey as well.
I created a water-vol that spans all the way to Geyser, used load triggers to disable the display for village1 (which is why changing the existing water volumes of Sandover instead of creating a new one would unload those as well) and load in training and overwrote the behaviour of sharkey so he can take damage.
@@LuminarLight I spawned it manually using the properties of the existing water-vol-8 from Sandover, but extended, so yeah, it's technically not part of any level.
@@HatKid Great. I did not consider that, even though that is indeed a possibility. Nice creative thinking! Maybe one day we can add water-vol to custom levels. I am too fool to figure out its properties myself.
Jak has the arm power of 10 speedboats. If he can punch a shark in the face better than Gru can, why not just swim all the way to Misty Island instead of getting permission from the fisherman?
When I was a kid I used to be so frustrated seeing those islands in the distance and not being able to go to them. I always thought those islands were hidden levels.
I explained in more detail in another comment but basically, I created a water volume that spans all the way to Geyser, used load triggers to load in Geyser and overwrote the behaviour of the shark so he can take damage.
Basically, you have to move forward in a rhythm. Jak moves faster in the water at the very beginning of his swimming animation, so if you continuously go forward, stop, go forward, stop at the correct intervals, you'll swim just fast enough to outpace the shark. Even improper timing is still faster than normal swimming though
Very satisfying to see the lurker shark get what it deserves after all these years lol
But how’s he going to feed his family now? 😢
@@UndertakerU2ber By Jak II, it wouldn't even matter anymore
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Lurker sharks have families to feed too ya know? Why doesn’t anyone think of the lurker sharks and the pressure their wives put on their husbands to bring back food for the baby sharks? 😔
@@UndertakerU2ber what about Jak’s future building Haven City? 😅
That’s how I felt when I played Ratchet and Clank a couple years later.
This is like something from a story you would hear repeated at recess how you totally can swim to a distant island if you do this one specific thing.
That Lurker Shark used to give me anxiety. Gonna have to play through this again
Our dreams are finally realized, we can be at peace now
Shark "Wait, you can't do that!" He can't do that, right?"
Ah, my childhood memories of trying to swim all the way to the islands outside of Sandover Village without getting eaten by the Lurker Shark.
Or falling into the void for crossing the loadable boundaries.
I didn't expect that to actually work! Always wondered if you could swim over there as a kid. Can you still pick up orbs and use the warp gate?
It's normally impossible, you fall in the void and the map doesn't load
Yeah, the level works fine. I did a little bit of trickery to make the level load as you swim towards it and to extend the water volume so you can actually swim all the way over there, normally, you would start falling into the void after a while and the level would never load no matter how close you get to it.
you can freecam over there and/or fly over there with the debug mode to get the unloaded version
@@HatKid You can load it actually. No idea what flag I triggered but I was flying around developer mode at a polygon geyser and it eventually did it. PS4 if it matters
@@Jay-LT_513 Yeah, even in the original PS2 game you can load at least some of the levels arbitrarily by using the debug cam if you manage to hit the trigger boxes correctly on the way. You can even load some levels out of order - I remember managing to noclip from Geyser Rock to Forbidden Jungle which usually isn’t possible unless you go through Sandover Village first. Though it seems like most of the time the game just crashes if you try doing that unfortunately.
There's no practical incentive to swim to geyser rock, yet we humans love to make fictional worlds feel authentic and true to themselves.
This is much in the spirit of GOAL, with which Naughty Dog showcased seamless loading between distant areas.
I guess you could say they... met their GOAL!!
Gonna have to play this version just to kick the lurker shark's ass
that shark scared me so much as a kid... maybe that's why I have a fear of the ocean
Me, too.
Michael Phelps just called
XD
That fish always gave me anxiety :(
Are you going from Sandover into a custom level that has more water, and then to Geyser?
Or did you do some magic with the existing water volumes?
I can see you used load triggers, that is clear. Just not sure how many.
And you modified sharkey as well.
I created a water-vol that spans all the way to Geyser, used load triggers to disable the display for village1 (which is why changing the existing water volumes of Sandover instead of creating a new one would unload those as well) and load in training and overwrote the behaviour of sharkey so he can take damage.
@@HatKid Where did you create the new water-vol? Is it not in any of the levels?
@@LuminarLight I spawned it manually using the properties of the existing water-vol-8 from Sandover, but extended, so yeah, it's technically not part of any level.
@@HatKid Great. I did not consider that, even though that is indeed a possibility. Nice creative thinking! Maybe one day we can add water-vol to custom levels. I am too fool to figure out its properties myself.
If only there was like a portal or something to skip all that swimming.
To see someone just, kick the shark... wow
Holy crap it’s like a totally different game
your hands must have hurt with all that pressing, good job though!
Jak has the arm power of 10 speedboats. If he can punch a shark in the face better than Gru can, why not just swim all the way to Misty Island instead of getting permission from the fisherman?
1:44 does anyone else have a phobia of something like this and the fear of being in water with something big?
Sure makes me nervous
Just take the boat it's faster 😂
WOAH YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO THERE? THATS SO COOL. KID ME WOULD'VE EXPLODED.
Nice, think you can blow up that stupid submarine drone in Jak 2 next?
When I was a kid I used to be so frustrated seeing those islands in the distance and not being able to go to them. I always thought those islands were hidden levels.
Does Misty Island have a trigger to load already or would you have to do the same?
Nope, I would need to add a trigger for it as well.
That Lurker Shark kill tho ? How :O
I modified the game's code to make him killable.
@@HatKid Ahhhhhh, finally this creature gets what it deserves 😁
This is nice. Would it be possible to have jak and daxter use all of levels, fully loaded, without using the low poly versions?
Jak 1's engine can only keep two levels loaded simultaneously, changing this would require a lot of work. Jak 2 and 3 allow for more, though.
Finally doing what I always wanted to do.
HOW? I tried it in OpenGOAL and the island was uncollidable and deloaded??!?!
I explained in more detail in another comment but basically, I created a water volume that spans all the way to Geyser, used load triggers to load in Geyser and overwrote the behaviour of the shark so he can take damage.
0:09 RIP bozo.
dreams Do come true
Best video ever created
tutorial?
Sad he didn’t look back
Wait WHAT?!
Cool video
How do you do that swim glitch?
Basically, you have to move forward in a rhythm. Jak moves faster in the water at the very beginning of his swimming animation, so if you continuously go forward, stop, go forward, stop at the correct intervals, you'll swim just fast enough to outpace the shark. Even improper timing is still faster than normal swimming though