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- Henry Ford vs Karl Marx. Epic Rap Battles Of History.
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Epic Rap Battles of History: Henry Ford vs Karl Marx. The king of capitalism goes head to head against the father of communism in an epic rap battle of history! This matchup was the clear winner of a poll we posted over on the ERB TH-cam community page last year. Thanks very much for all of your responses. Hope you all enjoy the battle!
Who won? Who’s next? You decide!
Thank you for watching!
np & eL
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Henry Ford: Nice Peter
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Karl Marx:: EpicLLOYD
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CREW
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Executive Producers: Nice Peter and EpicLLOYD
Directed by: Ryan Moulton
Produced by: Atul Singh
Written by: Nice Peter, EpicLLOYD, Zach Sherwin and the many most excellent contributors of our Patreon Writers Crew. Thank you!
Beat Produced by: Nice Peter & EpicLLOYD
Music Mixed and Mastered by: Nice Peter
Director of Photography: Jon Na
Assistant Camera: Andy Chinn
Dept. Head Makeup and Hair: Brielle McKenna
Makeup and Hair Artist: Lian Uritsky
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Playback: Patrick Rowland
Production Coordinator: Andy Sandoval
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Video Editors: Ross Fearnley, Nice Peter
VFX and Compositing: Dan Delboy, Charlie Miller, Nice Peter
Special thanks to Chris Olpin.
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Marx's last verse went so hard it seized my means of production.
"Reproduction" would have been funnier, but that was plenty good. "Frankly it's clear Auschwitz side you were on". They telegraphed the winner here with the musical swell at the end.
@@aquamarine99911bros the Joke Judge
@@jonniekimmins8015the comedy commander
I'm getting a full-on reacharound here. The father of Communism dropped the mic hard enough it bored a hole to the mohorovicic discontinuity,
@@Hectonkhyresum ackshually marx is the father of sciantific socialism as utopian communist ideologies were already developed by people like Fourier 🤓☝️
There’s no way
No fucking shot
It was about damn time
They’re back 🤯🤯
I was scared they had quit or something
I was surprised when i got the notif
"Edsel's stomach cancer showed more love than you did" even Ford was disgusted at how brutal that line was lmfao
Like Ford gets to be appalled, considering that he ended his first verse by mocking Marx over how many of his children he wound up outliving.
Marx = *#ThugLife*
Nah best line was clearly:
Its clear aushwitz side your were on
Probably disgusted by being reminded of his son
To be fair, Ford was the one who opened that particular can of worms in the first verse.
Question: How the hell does Epic Lloyd look exactly like EVERYONE??
default skin allows for best customization
He’s just got one of those faces.
Professional makeup and wardrobe artists.
he doesnt actually look like anyone he dresses as. its because your brain isnt fammiliar with what any historical figure actually looks like, your familliar with the way they dressed. brain just fills it in.
Generic white boy powers
I love how Marx used 1984 comparing Ford to Big Brother and then Ford fires right back using Animal Farm.
Almost expected Orwell to make a cameo!
@mattlufcy1254 that should have totally happened.
"Boy did I call it, or what?" - George Orwell
So orwellian
@@tt3925 George Orwell vs. George W. Bush: Anti-war, Anti-surveillance left-wing Spanish Republican vs a Pro-war, Pro-surveillance right-wing American Republican
I love that last line from Marx, "Found on road dead". It's acronym spells out "Ford" and it's something my diehard Chevy loving grandpa says.
Chevys used to be way better. These days.... well Im not so sure.
Those who loved Ford, OTOH, claimed it means "first on race day". Unfortunately our house doesn't feel that way: a car with only 54K miles on it needed 7200 for a new engine block. So we traded it for a Nissan.
@tedscheett9420 Holy, that was quite brilliant!
My Dad always said Ford stood for "Fix or Repair Daily."
And Chevrolet was short for "Shove 'er in the Garage and Leave 'er Lay"
F&@ked over rebuild dodge
Marx's third verse was so battle ending. The fact that "Edsel's stomach cancer showed more love than you did" wasnt his finishing line, but the opener for one of the most brutal series of bars I've seen on these kind of battles is insane. He had Ford dead by the time of "Your legacy's in ashes" bar and yet Marx kept hitting and hitting.
Marx absolutely fucking annihilated. Straight up one of the best performances in any ERB.
Karl left no room for any retort 🔥
If you drive a car, you can thank Ford. If you were killed by your tyrannical communist government, you can thank Marx. Anyone who defends Marx is a loser.
It's a contender for the single most brutal verse in the series' history - It's layer upon layer of destruction. You think "Ok that's the last line" 2 or 3 times and it just keeps intensifying past that point.
After the your legacy’s in ashes was a bop fr how he flowed 😂
"Frankly hank its clear auschwitz side you were on" is such clever wordplay holy shit 😂
I did nazi that coming
Ann Frankly, Ford still won
Yeah, the side building B24s and sherman tanks
@@zr3755 matter of opinion
ford was absolute garbage
"Its clear Auschwitz side you were on"
one of the best lines I've heard,just brilliancy
My jaw literally dropped. It was klearl who won the battle.
“I’ll leave you as a Ford expected,
Found on road dead”
😂😂
*communist calls capitalist a Nazi*
Liberals: "HOLY FUCKING SHIT THAT IS THE MOST ORIGINAL TOTALLY FUNNY LINE IVE EVER HEARD MY PROGRAMMING TELLS ME TO LAUGH NOW HHAHAHAHA."
@@Dragontron20 dude Ford actually supported hitler
@@Dragontron20 huh, liberals are capitalists. Why would they agree?
I’m convinced Peter and Lloyd could perfectly impersonate anyone on earth
Or elsewhere…
They can definitely write rhymes for then in a rap battle
Especially Batman
They might as well be actors at this point. I want them guest star in an episode of Invincible or Something. Maybe doing aliens or heroes. Lol
They're like Batman, they only need prep time.
I'd do just about anything to be in one video... Just one.
Holy shit I just realized. Those final frames teased the next rap battles, with the first being from the Godzilla vs King Kong one that just came out. Then they showed the staircase from Risky Business, the vault from Mission Impossible, and a big stunt arena. Is the next battle gonna be Tom Cruise vs Evil Knievel? Battle of the stuntmen????
It's already confirmed in the wiki!
Can't wait for all of the South Park Tom Cruise references.
I wish they would make more political ones, they were so fun (and this one is too).
You’re a little slow
You just now realized?
Everyone is admiring Marx's final verse, which absolutely deserves it, but his opening bar should get some love too. The rhymes and the flow were insane.
I love how he opens with "Who's this proud young Hegalian?" just to be like "see guys, we really did our reading for this one"
Exactly!
They even got the letter sent to Lincoln in there
I think Ford won. Karl Marx had zero good lines that i noticed.
The Model T bit feels a little off, but otherwise I agree.
Man the amount of historical references here are truly a gift, absolute banger
yeah & the geoege orwell references edit:bro i am indian
@@edexplains everyone knows orwell, man. that's like the most shallow of the references. Are you in 5th grade reading orwell for the first time?
@@william3117why do you need to talk down on people who are just impressed with references
@@guimauves6374 Knowing Orwell is like being proud you passed high school English.
@@guimauves6374 beacuse he wouldnt dare to do it in real life
EpicLLOYD Has played every single type of Ideology before, from communist Marx, socialist Stalin, and Nazi Hitler, to capitalist Jeff Bezos and Emperor Napoleon.
He really is Mr. Worldwide.
Stalin wasn't really a Socialist. He was heading a State-Capitalist endeavour & I'd really just call him a Red Fascist :)
Don't forget the flute busting Prussian!
Marx described himself as a socialist fyi and used the terms socialist and communist interchangeably.
I'm kinda annoyed American schools work so hard to ignore proletariat revolution throughout history because they end up saying embarrassing shit as a result, like claiming the Nazis were socialists.
@@komali2"but they called themselves socialist!!! the Nazis wouldn't have lied about being socialist, right???"
@@KevinWarburton-tv2iytell me you don't know history without saying you don't know history
I LOVE HOW UNCOMFORTABLE FORD IS WHEN MARX IS IN THE CAR WITH HIM LMFAOO
"yo you got games on your phone?"
Uncomfortable cuz Marx was preaching his annoying bullshit anyone who isint a commie would be uncomfortable with that lol he Laos was prolly like put your seatbelt on before you die idiot 🤣
Who wouldn't be? He is angry and looks like he probably smells like drunk hippie.
@@annawing770 he's the goat tho!
This might be the best one. Easily top 5! The lines were all ruthless, the wordplay and references were layered and creative ("Model T total" and "dung from a Taurus" are just *chef's kiss* so good), and the flows were SMOOTH.
I gotta hand this one to Marx though -- the opening line is a great tongue twister and his final verse was just plain evil
jesus christ that last verse...
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Look, guys, I absolutely love appearances from Deadpool, Batman, Joker and so on but there's something so special when you guys go down the actual historical figure path. Every time it's so good. I'm not saying the fictional character ones are bad, I can quote the majority of them from heart and love them dearly. These ones just hit so much harder. It's so good.
True the historical ones just hit different.
Real people's lives are so much more complex and messy than fictional people's, and that means there's just way more material to work with. The bragging, the banter, the insults, and the callouts all hit so much harder because they're all REAL.
Welcome back gents.
But Joker vs Pennywise was the best man 😂
@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworthBro I don't know have you seen comic books.
Ok, I'm Brazilian and didn't know that there is an actual city called 'Fordland' In Pará's state. Always learning with ERB Lyrics.
Mlk, nem eu
É só um distrito de Aveiros, PA. Hoje em dia os gringos forçam qualquer referencia ao Brasil porque sabem que vai engajar. Nos EUA também tem uma Fordland e é bem maior...
This is some Roosevelt vs Churchill level quality shit.
EXCELLENT work, ERB!
Fantastic video 🤘🏻
And the ironic audacity of Ford telling ANYONE to step off their soap box is too hilarious
Y'know, the makeup artist and costume designer are REALLY underrated, take this battle for a example, its pretty on point,
It’s very impressive, for sure. The costumes are damn near perfect here.
Reliably awesome production values!
@@Ocker3 Very true. I suppose you could say they seized the means of production.
When Ford says he is drippin' with style - he ain't lying.
@@Ianskogberg Both are dripping with style, as a matter of fact.
If you look closer. This is probably the most cutthroat two characters have been to date. Normally one rapper talks about themselves while the other counters, in this one they where both out for blood.
true
Cleopatra vs Marilyn Monroe was brutal as well
Yeah, they were going for the throat more than any other battle I can think of. In Roosevelt vs Churchill, they were both aggressive in their delivery but their burns themselves were more restrained than "your work was responsible for Mao and Stalin"(*) and "you were name-dropped in the most infamous book".
(*) - I'm not passing judgment about whether or not that's factually accurate, but it's a good burn.
@@bane2201 yes
Gotta give credit to people like Scru Face Jean for that happening, honestly. Scru's ERB reactions got big enough that they brought him on as one of the rappers (Mansa Musa) and his entire thing was pushing ERB to get more aggressive with the attacks and less on the flexing. Wouldn't be surprised if that was an influence, at least.
0:26 "When a world leader likes you, that's a red flag!"
The wordplay is just impeccable.
I'm dropping you like Hitler dropped your name on Mein Kampf was a great response. 😂
@@dalemcilwain The fuck is a "Krauf"? xD
Oh shit just picked up on that
"I'll drop you like Hitler dropped your name in Mien Kampf." Perfect comeback by Marx.
red flag literally means flag used for leftist community
red flag also means bad relationship with partner
this context means that if a leader likes marxism their flag would change to red color, and the relationship of government to citizen is bad (imo)
"i even pawned my own pants" had me on the floor comrade
Hope y'all enjoy the battle. Thank you for being here :)
Welcome back, gentlemen. This was incredible.
thanks guys
Yalls rhyme schemes have helped me win so many jackbox games omg
RETURN OF THE KING
It was unexpected and very amazing thank yall I needed something good to watch ❤
The #1 on trending is really well-deserved, this battle is amazing!
Agreed!
Part 2
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@@mpirerecords2204 *what*
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@@deleetiusproductions3497 Its a botted account. Ignore it.
I want to see George Orwell vs. Franz Kafka just so they can both debate, argue, and even find common ground in the countless people who misuse Orwellian and Kafkaesque.
I really like that idea, although i doubt theyd get along all that well considering kafka was jewish and orwell was an antisemite 😂
If you're doing Orwell, I'd put him against Huxley - they both are best known for their dystopian fiction, and are routinely put as 'compare and contrast' subject in English Lit classes.
@@vylbird8014bro, that actually happened. They had a debate over who’s dystopian future was more likely.
"Frankly Hank it's clear Auschwitz side you're on" oh naw he's cooking 💀
It’s insane that I remember playing the shit out of Steve Jobs vs Bill Gates when I was 9, and here I am today at 19 still listening to ERB on repeat 😂
No shit! I was 7 around the time, and I’m 17 now! Holy- I feel old as hell now… where did the time go?
As a newer fan, I can't say I know what that's like. I imagine it's quite neat, though.
Dude don't to that... yer making the age catch up...
Dang, I am also ten years older now. It can't be a coincidence
@@drdrew7475 teehee
I'm always extra excited when both opponents are actual historical figures.
I often don't mind the usage of fictional characters, but this battle certainly isn't too bad.
I get even more excited when they are related in any way
Ash Ketchum vs Charles Darwin wtf...
@@jeffbac1889 I think that one had to do with the idea of "evolution", so there's somewhat of a connection. But there are definitely worse. _Way worse._
That is why we need an Epic Rap Battle between Isaac Newton and Ernst Mach, regarding the Bucket Experiment and whether motion is relative, or absolute!
@@deleetiusproductions3497isn't too bad? this is amazing!!!
this might be the best ERB so far. music is a banger and Ford's voice fits perfectly
Fuck no lol not even close it was alright and ford Def won but not even close to the best fucking the movie star one might be close to the best
I'm going to have to dock some points from Ford there because he compared Stalin and Mau to Marx. Leninism and Stalinism were decidedly different from Marxism. Lenin and Stalin described their government as a capitalist state. Mau wasn't Marxist either; he was a Leninist, which meant they first wanted to remove all other communist and socialist parties, reduce the political landscape to a single political party, establish a state capitalist economy, and create a dictatorship of the proletariat except they tend to stop at "create dictatorship" and don't bother with the rest of the phrase. Marx and Engel wrote about a period marked by the abuse of the people by the ruling monarchies of Europe. They both believed that these monarchs would never voluntarily abdicate their thrones and, therefore, required violent revolution to overthrow them. At no point has Marx ever expressed a desire to create a dictatorship or a single-party rule. He advocated for workers to rise up and seize the means of production from landowners.
So that's going to be a D minus for Mr. Henry Ford.
Nerd ass. Just enjoy the vid.
@@delvontaewalker3336 bad day?
@@delvontaewalker3336 Everything alright?
@@paleopal Nah. I was drunk when I typed this. I don't know why. I'm a history nerd.
Have you read a single line of lenin?
Yeah, the lyricism is amazing, but can we acknowledge that beat?
The old-school drum and piano, the industrial noises integrated flawlessly, that groovy bassline in Henry's last verse and the epic choir in Karl's. Gotta be one of my favourite instrumentals so far.
Ikr, the beat is hype
Very 90's it's awesome
It's called Boombap
Sounds like old Wu
Even better, this beat is made in house. ERB. Probably their first track with an in house made beat.
Marx's last verse was absolute CLASS.
working class, one might say
You haven't heard acronyms for Ford have ya..
Found On Road Dead
Fixed Or Repaired Daily
Fucked Over Rebuilt Dodge
And of course...
First On Race Day
@@tomaszkuplowski9258certified proletarian classic
Nay bruh, it was class WARFARE
I see what you did there
Easily top five all time ERB. One of their best.
marx had so many cold lines
Perhaps even the best.
Ford's mannerisms and disgusted facial expressions during Marx's verses kill me every time, especially that cut to the split screen at 1:01 😂😂
There will always be a place on TH-cam and the internet for creativity, talent and accurate history... so damn cool to watch all these years.
FINEALLY they uploaded
@@tikktokk7007Boooooo!!!
In an internet landscape where people try to game the system to optimize clicks and decrease attention spans, it’s genuinely heartening to see ERB create raps true to their style with somehow a brand new touch in this vid as there are in any other. The creativity and style is off the charts fr
That is why we need an Epic Rap Battle between Isaac Newton and Ernst Mach, regarding the Bucket Experiment and whether motion is relative, or absolute!
This video is definitely amazing in terms of historical accuracy.
Dude the way he characterized Ford as just having a blast vs Marx's furious energy was amazing
ones a revolutionary and ones a capitalist, I would expect no less.
@@mysteryman703exactly the point, ignorance is bliss, especially when your force it on yourself, knowledge is power yes, but also the worst burden one could have.
@@thedirewolfking2274 mistaking dialectical materialism for dialectical idealism. Marx would be disappointed.
It’s quite a neat contrast, indeed.
Well he is a rich capitalist bastard joking about killing workers, that have the chance to insult a poor and a socialist, if course he have a blast.
Half of his insult are LOL Stalin and Mao and you stink and is poor old man.
While Marx have a insensitive bastard that say shit about him, mainly about his poverty and hygiene, and helped the nazi while leaving a legacy of working slavery. Of course he is pissed off.
I was torn til that last verse. Damn.
Ford: You stink
Marx: "Edsel's stomach cancer showed more love than you did"
Gotta give huge props to Lloyd here for his half Russian half German accent. Bloody incredible
That's meant to be a Prussian accent, and I certainly liked it.
@@deleetiusproductions3497 yes
@@SirQuantization *_yes_*
Yes
yes
I know you guys may never see this, but you’ve been an integral part of my childhood. Thank you for all of the great battles and puns
We are here. Thank you for the kind words.
@@ERB of course 😃
@@ERB You guys got me through middle school, high school, and now college. I look forward to every dick pun Lloyd can muster. Thanks :)
My man, Peter and Lloyd are arguably the most engaging content creators on the entire platform as far as I've seen. I've seen them replying to comments on videos months, even years, after the intial upload date. Actively participating in co-creation for their content and reading every single word their viewers write, these absolute legends are the best role models for other creators on this platform by far. If only their upload schedule (on ERB) would be just as perfect.. A man can only dream 🥲
P.S. obviously the rest of the ERB team besides Peter and Lloyd should be praised as well ❤
Childhood, oof, that makes me feel old.
They've been an integral part of my adulthood 😅
*one of the best erb's every*
Best Disses: Karl Max
Best Flow: Henry Ford
Loser: The working class
That last bar Karl Marx dropped was impacting like a head on collision 💥.
Idk I feel like the last line was him reacting like he’d been caught so he was saying anything to get out a win
@@joshuasell9607 Nah, that was an extra little salt on the wounds. Marx had that battle from the second round and Ford didn't have anything major after the first.
@@theog2306 I personally prefer his third verse, but you can have your opinion.
@@joshuasell9607 nah, it was fire, he busted his cars and dropped his nazi affiliations like a bomb. HOT BARS
@@joshuasell9607nah, that last bar was a mic drop
My life has had an open void for far too long. Call the soldiers, tonight we celebrate 🎉🎉🎉
👍🏻
LESSGOOO
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Hope that void is filled
Yesssaaaaaaasssshhhhhh
For almost all the battle it seemed like Ford had the battle in his pocket.
Then came the third verse...
An observation countless people have made and agreed with.
No way, Marx killed it as soon as he started. Marx verse 1 is absolutely great
Nah ford absolutely slaughtered Marx
@@blackeye3336 No he didn't. It takes far more than an ending line from the first verse, a few puns and a counter-reference regarding George Orwell to pull off a slaughter. And that's without getting into how the only ones out of his disses and criticisms that weren't torn apart were: his repeated jab at Marx's hygiene (you don't reuse the same diss unless you want to look stupid, and wording the second use differently only makes it look lazy to boot), his remark about Marx being an alcoholic (Marx literally admitted to that one in his first verse, so it loses any possible use as an insult against him) and the bit about Karl having boils on his skin (now he did have a skin condition of some kind, but it didn't lead to boils on his crotch).
What, wondering why I didn't say anything about Engels? Marx actually stated (and this is a treat) that capitalism was better than anything that preceded it in one of his books and praised Engels in a number of places. Sure, it can be argued as Marx being hypocritical, but I don't see you giving Tesla grief for having worked under Edison at one point or Rockefeller for practicing philanthropy while being vicious towards would-be competitors.
Marx may have won, but Ford's first verse is just so fun to listen to.
True
The recreation of the Marx picture with the chair was simply amazing
I agree.
this and che guevara's recreation are just the makeup artists flexing on how GOOD these guys can impersonate historical pics
The dichotomy between Karl Marx writing to Lincoln urging him to end slavery and Ford sympathizing with Hitler being pointed out was BRUTAL
I agree, it’s an interesting juxtaposition.
it's almost like the people we've been told are bad guys aren't and those we've been told are good guys are.@@deleetiusproductions3497
Lincoln was the worst president in history.
@@deleetiusproductions3497 you can just say comparison lol
@@danielbojkovski723 I like big words.
I keep coming back to this one. It genuinely might be one of the greatest ERBs of all time.
0:34 that was an AMAZING BAR
0:44 also that bar was AWESOME
the battles with fictional characters can be fun. But I always love it when you have history vs history.
I agree completely.
DARTH VADER vs ADOLF HITLER!!!!
Always loved the mix of fictional vs real life. Or maybe historical vs modern.
@@FusionFullForce Yeah, those can also be good.
I was a history major and even I had trouble keeping up this ERB. It was the most layered ERB on two historical figures that I've heard. The beat was even layered in a complex manner compared to other ERB's. I still enjoyed this ERB because the lyrics were great and the production team did a great job with the visuals.
I just watched Extra Credits History's recent Ford series and got pretty much everything.
@@PatrickKnieslerI'm the reverse cause I've recently been reading on Marx but missed some of the Ford stuff
Yes! It was so complex, perfectly executed, and went hard!
The rips on ford in the last verse were brutal
I loved matching up what I learned from Mark Steel's Lecture on Karl Marx with what was in this ERB. Tons of fun!
The shoulder dance always gives me serotonin.
i'm so happy to see erb is still putting out bangers!!
the choir that kicks in at the end makes Marx's last verse feel like the final boss fight and I love it
It gave me flash backs to Juliet’s last verse. Both were ruthless threw out their battles. Both decided to win. Both seem like they were fully there because of a grudge.
It’s fitting that this feels like a final boss, since Marx saved his best for last.
The harmonization on "from your newspaper to your Nazi factory cross the pond" is what sold it, I can't stop playing that verse
@@SnownelVEVO saaame
It's not a choir. It's a synth choir "instrument" on a keyboard.
The only thing this battle is missing is Friedrich Engels as Marx' background dancer
TH-cam would have demonetized the video for having too much beard.
@@andrewklang809 lol
@@andrewklang809 i'm dumb i don't get the joke
Yes🤣🤣
@@TheDarkCeratosaurus Marx and Engels started the tradition of leftist philosophers having legendary beards. The beard that Marx has in this ERB is a faithful recreation
Ford went 100% for brutal low blows, but was tossing stones from one hell of a glass house. All it took was some catchy moments and a few actually thought-out lines to absolutely CRUSH whatever ford had going on. Shock value and insults can't carry you forever. Marx's last few lines were killer blows one after another, too.
But honestly, it was won from the first two verses. Ford opened with a bad joke an an empty promise he had no chance of fulfilling, without building himself up at all, only comparing himself to Marx. Marx opens announcing himself (in a VERY catchy line too), displaying far more confidence than ford did, and then IMMEDIATELY jumping to stating a fact that's far worse than any subjective jab ford could come up with.
Empty promise with no chance of actually fufilling, just like communism 😊
@@metalgearsalad1204 Maybe we are evaluating the rap battle, not the ideologies?
The battle didn't started yet and I'm already chuckling at Henry Ford mimicking the honking and driving gestures in his intro x')
The fact that both of you have acted in 80+ of these battles and you still manage to find a unique way to portray every single character is nothing short of incredible. I think we long-term fans often take it for granted, but you two are remarkable actors, on top of you and your team being creative geniuses and masterful musicians. Amazing job as always, guys; glad to hear production is underway for more battles soon! ❤
They do have a makeup/special effects department. But absolute props do go to both of them for getting so deep into the role.
Can't believe I went from internet dwelling teenager to fully blown adult man and this series literally hasn't stopped. Thanks for the continuous nostalgia bois! Also dayum that last Marx round was brutal.
Ford was a NAZI
It's amazing how they're still going after 13 years. Maybe not as strong as they once were, though.
Yeah, that's gonna leave a Marx.
@@UncleMikeNJ lol
@@deleetiusproductions3497 nah, they're even better
This is bloody brilliant also I have a suggestion for the next one:Can we have George Orwell Vs Max Stirner cuz I think it’d be interesting and they’d clash and contrast well
Damn! I'm so happy to see a new video recommended. You two are part of my growth, when I first moved from home I didn't miss any of yout videos. I wish you the best!!!
This series has easily the most consistency and longevity of any on youtube. I'll always watch them as long as you're making them!
What about Zero Punctua... oh. :(
“Consistency” in quality maybe but not in upload schedule lmao
As much as I love ERB… Rhett and Link have something to say about that.
@@TeasGuideToThePlanes What's there to be sad about? it's litterally back and better than ever along with being under a better banner. It's now called "Fully Rambonic" and under a new channel called second wind!
@@rws531true, but that's what freshy kanal is for
the fact that ERB can take such a long break, and STILL MAKE BANGERS, make me so happy i’ve been watching for so long
they were just putting this on the slow cooker for us and it turned out fire 🔥
similar to the robot in your pfp
@@Lo-Sir ONG
Fax
and from what I hear the next one SHOULD be out by the end of December
Waited sooooo long for a new season
Interesting switch since Season One, with Nice Peter playing the villain...
Also, Marx won with that last line. 🙂
Well, Ford is definitely the less moral between the two.
The scene with Ford driving his car is so goofy but somehow also works really well.
Edit: Thanks for the gold kind stranger!
it was perfect, because Marx materializing in the back seat immediately took it from a goofy throwaway bit to weirdly uncomfortable and ominous
Goofy and appopiate
It helps that it’s very well produced.
Perfect
@@treazn "materializing"
I see what you did there.
"You grew so out of touch you sabatoged your only kid! Edsel's stomach cancer showed more love than you did." Might be one of the rawest and most brutal disses in this show.
Brutal indeed.
It’s right up there with the *Miss Carriage* line from the cleopatra vs Marylin Monroe battle
@@ShyGreenBean agreed
"My lines are production, your lines are bread" was pretty ruthless. And true.
@@russbilderback Ford's best verse was his first. Marx's best was his last.
HOLY SHETTTT THEY ALREADY DROPPED VIDEOSSSSS OMG THANK YOUUUUUUU
every time one of these sends you to a wikipedia binge, you know it's an all time - awesome work!
Can I take a moment to offer tremendous kudos to Lloyd on this one - his ability to mold himself into each character improves during every battle, and I was legitimately unclear for the first minute whether Marx was him or not. Absolutely incredible work all around.
I was shocked as well. He did absolutely amazing in this
You were not legitimately unclear... you know very well Karl Marx is dead. Dont try to attention hoard
As soon as he frowns you can tell it's him ahah
@@zeldzamezeeslak6082I think he means that Lloyd was acting as Marx and not someone else, not that Marx himself was there
@@biannualcube2704 - Pretty sure that was the joke.
I am Brazilian, and I did not know that there was a city called Fordlândia (Ford-Land) in my country. Apparently, this city was established by Ford to raise his company production of rubber.
And it went VERY VERY FUCKIN BADLY
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Great news there's a very good and funny yt video I linked above that serves as a great mini doc about Fordlandia and how much an absolutely disaster it was
Wendigoon made a really good video about it
He made a whole city?
@@lavellelee5734 yeah and it went fucking horrifically
Karl Marx: "Capitalism is bad and evil"
Henry Ford: "You smell bad and I'm rich ☝️🤓"
Meanwhile Communism...
@@cheesecakeisgross4645has to be stopped by the CIA
@@slug3982Good.
@@cheesecakeisgross4645
Communists: I think you deserve a living wage, free healthcare, short working hours, and generally a good life.
Capitalists: Nuh uh
@@nope7389 Lol. Capitalism does all that far better than Communism ever has.
"You sabotaged your only kid, Edsel's stomach cancer showed more love than you did"
DAMMMMNNNN, MARX DID NOT HOLD BACK
I don't know who seized the means of production at RRB but this episode clearly came straight of a hyper calibrated assembly line!
Indeed. It's simply amazing.
Henry Ford rose from the dead to pump out an absolute banger straight from his factory
The actual history characters are always my favorite ones. Welcome back ERB!
“This battle has been a blowout like the hemorrhage in your head” IS CRIMINALLY UNDERRATED
"When a world leader likes you, that's a red flag!"
Immediately gets uno reverse carded
The only world leaders who praised Ford were Hitler and US presidents 💀
Omg I just got that one
Jesus, this battle is *unreal*. The non-fiction ones always hit hard, but this one (especially Marx's last verse) is just immaculate.
@@tikktokk7007 What is that emo s. I didn't know that MGK can be even whiter.
i like how you start with a fictional character in your comment about non fiction
@@alanmacdonald1457why are you trying to start a war in the comment section?
@@alanmacdonald1457so edgy
@@darklex5150just ignore them, they’re clearly starved for attention.
"From your newspaper to your Nazi factory cross the pond, frankly Hank its clear Auschwitz side you were on" Coldest burn in the history of ERB
Babe Ruth’s roast of Lance Armstrong is still up there.
real
This is the best one in a while they brought the great flow back
OMG YALL ARE BACK I MISSED YALL
As someone from Detroit, the amount of facts loaded in this made me laugh. Thanks for always keeping it real!
Well, it's good for you that the region where you live is getting some attention from ERB.
like how Socialist policies destroyed one of the countries greatest cities?
Yeah, he totally owned that Marxist!
Amen to that!!! Represent Detroit!
That Flint Michigan line went hard
I love how Marx disses not just Ford, but the car itself
That’s actually true.
I liked how Ford not only dissed Marx, but also his entire murderous ideology.
@@theDARKWOLF151 the ideology has nothing to do with murder. thats what people did in the name of it but not the ideology itself.
@@sida8972 Also, Ford mention the bread lines, when that was actually happening in America at the time. lol
@@theDARKWOLF151 "My concepts didn't cause mass graves, GREED did. You'd get that from books, but you didn't read shit."
This is just fire! 🔥 very well done ✌️
These vids are amazing
As a Brazilian, I only got the "Brazilian city" after rewatching the battle. Ford used to have a factory (?) in my country where they harvested what I believe is rubber. They used it to make car tires. The name of the industrial complex is Fordlandia. If I'm not mistaken, it is a ghost town, or a nature reserve by today's date.
It was supposed to be a rubber plantation, but it was an unmitigated disaster. It's often cited as an example of colonial arrogance. Ford sent an all-American administrative team to run the place, refusing to accept any Brazilian in a position other than menial labor. So there was no-one in a position of authority who know about the local culture, weather conditions, ecology, or even the basics of rubber tree cultivation. It was run as if it were a little enclave of American work culture, with laborers expected to live in American-style dorms, served only cheap American food in the company canteen, and generally denied access to any local culture. Also expected to maintain American working hours in the tropical heat and sun, entirely ignoring that this risked heat-stroke.
The trees were plagued by various diseases and damaging insects because, to maximise production, they were all planted in close proximity creating a dangerous monoculture. The employees were so miserable that they actually rose up in rebellion and shut down the plantation, until the government sent in the army to force them back to work at gunpoint. It never managed to produce any rubber - and some years later, chemists figured out how to turn oil into synthetic rubber, rendering the whole projust instantly obsolete. The town was abandoned for decades, aside from squatters who moved in out of desperation because the housing was still somewhat liveable.
Adding more context to this, as a fellow Brazilian - Fordlândia was a total failure and was given up on just a few years in, thanks to absurd labor conditions and just terrible agricultural planning in general. A 2009 article reported “not a single drop” of rubber made it to a Ford car.
It did become something of a ghost town for a few decades afterwards, but got a population boost in the late 2000s and is now reported to house around 3000 people.
Thanks for adding interesting info to my comment, folks!
@@vylbird8014dang that's a lot of context. Kudos
Great comments.
Wow. This was just, wow. Marx's last verse went harder than the worker's conditions on Ford's company.
Always love to see a new ERB but especially one with real history and not just American pop culture
Can't forget Ford's 2nd and 1st, he was holding more back than Stalin was holding back grain to Ukraine and still made him look like a crazy homeless man
Marxism has caused millions more deaths than any other ideology in the world
@@funnyman4744all he said was that "you're a hypocrite (Engels funded him), and you have medical issues" that's about it. Marx was pointing at the factory conditions and the workers within them not exactly happy with what they got and fought and died to change it.
@@funnyman4744please read a book. Stalin wasn’t a Marxist. Lennon wasn’t either. State capitalism is not communism. Learn who Trotsky was and what he did and who he supported during the revolution. Then learn who killed him. 👍
@@LundunDansqua Trotsky was supported by fascist like Hearst and he was killed by one of his disgruntled followers after learning that Trotsky was selling other communists to government.
>Lennon wasn’t either
Kek. Maybe you should actually read a book.
One of your best
This one went HARD! From the beat to the punch after punch. ERB doesn't slow down, one of the rare ones that consistently gets better. Plus, I'm glad they're back to actual historical figures facing each other! *Chefs kiss
That is why we need an Epic Rap Battle between Isaac Newton and Ernst Mach, regarding the Bucket Experiment and whether motion is relative, or absolute!
@@Chris.Daviesnah, make it Newton vs Dirac...similar screwed up childhoods, weird habits and antisocial personalities I totally did not just spend two months researching...yeah, it would be hilarious!
Part 2
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They ARE slowing down, but I'll take that any day versus any loss of quality. Keep the golden standard up ERB!
@@ravenwraith1017 Both of you are wrong. Newton battled Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson. Not “should” battle them, “did”.
I am a history teacher, and I love showing ERBs to my students after we have done a lesson on these individuals. They always are amazed how much more they get from the lyrics. (Not realizing we are actually doing a material review. )😂 Lol! Another banger!
That sounds like great teaching to me. :)
Totally not biased what so ever…
id kill to have a teacher like you, ngl.
Analyze each line and try to figure out why they said it, because each line is rich in history. I just did that for fun and I'm 38. Good teacher.
I'm jealous, wish you were my history teacher in high school.
Ending on Found On Road Dead literally had me screaming "YES!!!" when I first watched this. Perfect line to end on
Heavens! This was awesome.I almost forgot to breathe! By the way, ERB, I think you guys ought to do a Sir Arthur Conan Doyle v/s Dame Agatha Christie. End it with Sherlock Holmes and Watson along with Hercule Poirot and Miss Marple coming and telling their authors to stop using their popularity as a weapon, afterall Christie would abuse Poirot to no end and Doyle tried to kill Holmes.
ERB has finally returned and is as awesome sauce as ever!
ya and then theyll be gone for another year
Erb never fails
yep
Bro said awesome sauce in 2023 💀
@@burritodog3634 Only producing enough to be able to go a year without working. "Oh, it looks like ERB ad revenue is really down. Let's pump out a few songs so that people remember us and go back to rewatch all the older ones and bump those numbers up for another year. "
The incredible part is over the years, you can tell that ERB has gone deeper and deeper into the historical rabbit hole and actually has made a critical arguement for each person.
We went from two fascists throwing words to one another to basically a firm handed reality share that maybe Ford stimulated the best and worst of American dominance over production.
Not to say Marx got his share of heat, but wow that finale.
Big love ERB, thanks for walking with me from high-school well into my happy adulthood.
Marx was not a fascist....he was the leader of the communist movement which was going on at that time and butted heads historically at that time with fascism.
I agree though! This was great!
@@the620master The two fascists he meant were Hitler and Vader from the early ERB.
@@the620masterEver heard of horseshoe theory?
the critical arguments in question
against henry ford: not self-made, bad working conditions, questionable relations with nazis
against marx: stinky hobo
@@lanata64 Also Ford was a horrible parent to Edsel, which probably caused his son's stomach cancer.
You guys are amazing
"city in Brazil, nuts!" Line is just so good, Henry tried to make an American city in the Amazon in the 1930's...
It failed miserably and was nuts
I remember watching my first epic rap battle of history 10 years ago and I am still loving them, their success is very well deserved
That must be neat, to have been around since early on.
@@deleetiusproductions3497 it has been amazing to see them and their channel evolve and improve
For me it was the Steven Hawking vs. Einstein one, must have been ~2010/2011. My roomates and I were laughing about it for weeks.