Henry Ford vs Karl Marx - Behind The Scenes. Epic Rap Battles of History.
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- Henry Ford vs Karl Marx - Behind The Scenes. Epic Rap Battles of History.
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CAST
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Karl Marx: EpicLLOYD
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Henry Ford: Nice Peter
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CREW
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Executive Producers: Nice Peter and EpicLLOYD
Directed by: Ryan Moulton
Produced by: Atul Singh
Written by: Nice Peter, EpicLLOYD, Zach Sherwin and the many most excellent contributors of our Patreon Writers Crew. Thank you!
Beat Produced by: Nice Peter & EpicLLOYD
Music Mixed and Mastered by: Nice Peter
Director of Photography: Jon Na
Assistant Camera: Andy Chinn
Dept. Head Makeup and Hair: Brielle McKenna
Makeup and Hair Artist: Lian Uritsky
Wardrobe and Props: Nice Peter and EpicLLOYD
Playback: Patrick Rowland
Production Coordinator: Andy Sandoval
DIT and Health & Safety Manager: Atul Singh
A Gracious Thanks to the Model T Team:
Picture Car Coordinator: Andria Myers
Model T Ford Touring Car provider: Rex DeSurra
Video Editors: Ross Fearnley, Nice Peter
VFX and Compositing: Dan Delboy, Charlie Miller, Nice Peter
Special thanks to Chris Olpin.
BTS shooters: EpicLLOYD, Nice Peter, Andy Sandoval
BTS Editors: Ross Fearnley, EpicLLOYD
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Babe wake up new ERB just dropped
Babe not wake up
She's a Latina... I'm not doing that....🤔😅
Guys will see this and just think “Hell yeah”
IM UP.
@BlackOpsGulfWar You remind me of the babe.
I love how detailed they always are in their research. That's what makes the battles work, imo.
Yeah… detailed research with this one. That’s a way to describe it.
can't wait for their future battles!
"imo"?
Too much bias.
@@kevingomez2470 IN MY OPINION
I love how Lloyd is learning a German accent years after he played Hitler 3 times.
He’s trying an ACTUAL one. The Hitler one was highly exaggerated because it was meant to be insulting to Hitler himself. No one is going to take imitating a legit German accent for playing fucking Hitler when it’s a parody. For anyone else probably gonna really try unless that person was just as shitty as him.
That and the first Hitler battle was the first official erb. So ofc he isn’t going to be doing a legit accent it was just some silly little thing they were doing back then.
Well Hitlers public speeches sounds exagerated and cartoony even to Germans, its easy to make a parody of this recipe. In private, even Hitler did not talk like that. And German has so many dialects, you could make up any faux dialect and still legimatly claim its imitating German. Just watch "Das Boot" (in German) and you get through a very good collection of dialects.
Of course he shouldda done an Austrrrrian accent then
that wasn't even a german accent, he just made his voice shrilly and sharp and then pronounced the Ws like Vs and the 'the's like 'ze'.
I loved the part near the end when they were in the car. It made the last verses even better. I had no idea you used an actual car. At first glace, I thought the car was greenscreened in.
Henry Ford and Karl Marx rollin’ in a Model-T. Gangster as fuck! 😎
I just can’t stop watching that scene. It’s so over the top and goofy
Something felt off about the image quality of that scene compared to the rest of the video, but then it made sense having been filmed on a jury-rigged outdoor set
Well, it was.
@@doujinflipjerry*
As a history teacher, love the amount of effort you guys put into research and accents. I love sharing your videos with students, clean versions when I can and tell them to watch them at home when I can't. I may even use this one when we cover the Gilded Age later this year!
That's so cool. I love that you incorporate these into your curriculum, your students must cherish your class. I'm in AP World History, and these battles help me a lot. Have a great weekend, and good luck with your teaching!
I do the same! 7th grade here
I coach scholastic bowl, and frankly, it's nearly aggravating how many questions I've read in practice or in matches that make me go "there's an ERB for this one".
Glad this dropped so soon after, I always appreciate the rap battles more after watching the behind the scenes
They come out at the same time as the battles
The one thing I wished y'all had been able to include in the lyrics was how Ford got kicked out of almost every company he founded - which then went on to become his direct competition (Cadillac, Dodge, etc).
Say what?? That's mad!
I wonder if that was a scrapped line anywhere XD
@@Crimethoughtfull It's true He had tons and tons of ideas but he had no ability to stop and say this is good enough to release now and then I'll work on the next thing. His partners needed to do that consistently. And when his ego got too much he'd bow out and go start another company. Repeatedly.
@@Adamdiditthat could've been a nice tied verse to the one in which Ford talks about Marx dead daughters
Lloyd's make up is, once again, ridiculously good. There were moments and shots that looked so accurate they were biopic quality. That's a HELL of a makeup job for just 90 minutes of chair time.
"Didn't think this matchup would work." - Me. Every. Single. Time. I am proven wrong. Every. Single. Time.
Remember the reactions to Thanos vs. Oppenheimer? Everyone was like, "How is Oppenheimer supposed to be a threat?!" and then the battle came so then they were like, "How was Thanos supposed to have a chance?!". 😁
I actually think Henry Ford vs Karl Marx was the best battle you guys have ever done. The raps hit incredibly hard, the historical references were incredible, production was off the charts. So many lines had double meanings, when you break down the entire battle it really encourages you to actually learn the history so you can appreciate the depth of the writing. And the whole thing sounds sick. Incredible!
It always makes me happy to see Zach continuing to contribute to ERB. I don't know if he's a full-time member of the team but I hope he always sticks around.
He’s been a full-time writer since season three. Grateful that Zach has stuck around to come up with insanely clever rhymes and disses.
When did you see Zac? I don't remember seeing him in the video
Oh nevermind he's at the beginning
Zach is RIDICULOUSLY good at writing verses
This ERB gonna have to be one of the classics
Yasssss!!!!! Still got it! Thanks very much.
@@ERB2you guys add so much personality to each character. Like Ford, Marx, Hitler, Stalin, Joker Roosevelt and Fawkes and Guevara, as well as both Washington and Wallace it’s actually insane
I never watched one of these BTS videos before. But I had to since Ford v Marx just got into my head and I needed to know more. I gotta say, the amount of research and work you all put into these videos is incredible. It's always been obvious that y'all work your asses off but to see what goes into the production really brings it home. No wonder your content has been so good for so long! Shit, Lloyd is over here learning an extinct Prussian accent so he can have a unique sound for a guy whose voice was literally never recorded. Not to mention learning all these obscure facts to actually write the raps.
take a dive into the bts vids. they won't disappoint.
@@ERB2 hello lloyd!
Love the battle - and, as always, the Behind The Scenes! One small thing: Karl's birthplace Trier lies in the far west of Germany (directly on the border with Luxembourg) and only became part of Prussia in 1816 (2 years before Marx was born), more or less as a Prussian conquest after the Napoleonic Wars. His accent was therefore Rhinelandic/Moselle-Franconian, not Prussian (which was in the far east). However, it probably sounded quite similar to English ears, so it still fits ^^
"These rhyme skills are not evenly distributed" is one of my favorite ERB lines of all times
Imagine just waking up from a coma and this is the first thing your shown! I've missed watching erb so much keep up the good work Lloyd and Peter 👍
It would be worth it for ERB
Hopefully it doesn't put you right back into a coma...cause it slaps so hard! Sorry. Thanks for watching. -eL
For the record, I never was in a coma but I was just imagining if someone woke up from a year long coma and seeing this sorry if anyone misunderstood the meaning of this comment. I've just missed erb and it's nice they're putting quality over quantity 👍
@@ERB2I thought you were Adolf Hitler commander of the third Reich
@@ERB2I thought you were Adolf Ghitler commander of ZA third Reich
Very satisfying that Lloyd actually read some Marx and came away thinking, “Oh, dude’s definitely on to something!”
judging by how there were no historians (correct me, if I'm wrong) involved it turned out surprisingly well
Then he said the itchy skin led him to communism..!
@@Pacifist_MRMKronstadt in my heart 😢
@mizanurrahamanmamun1095 I mean it certainly influenced the way in which he wrote about it. Surprised there weren't more curse words in his writing tbh
Marx: I fucking told you dude. I know
You should do Archimedes (father of mathematics) vs Alan Turing (father of modern computer science)
Maybe have MatPat portray Turing
How's a bird supposed to rap against someone
He looks VERY similar to MatPat, wow.
Holy shit, I want this just for MatPat Turing
Indiana Jones might have known both of them
They’d HAVE to add a tf2 teference in a line
These in-depth BTSs must be a lot more effort to make than the old shitpost-style ones, and I just want to say that it's APPRECIATED. The details about the process are fascinating to me, and I always wished that the old would say more. Thanks guys!
Looks like Christmas came to ERB early this year. The beat was especially stellar this time around.
"Did I just forget the alphabet?" lmao been there
NicePeter is crazy good at facial acting, and portraying old men
This is definitely the best rap battle of the last few years. Bangers left and right AND super educational.
Let’s ALSO give credit to the amazing patron on Patreon who fought to make this battle happen: *SwanSong!*
He *deserves* his flowers! 👏👏👏
Yes y'all do. Well done.
as a person growing up in a post-communist poland i can empaphise with epiclloyd learning the disparity between the 'devious' connotations of communism a lot of people are taught from a young age as opposed to the actual humane and perceptive ideology behind the original movement
I was so happy when they actually read theory to do Marx
@@MCDreng that got me so hyped
Thats how every modern ideology works. in theory it sounds nice, but the way people put it in practice...
@@Yea___ you’re being really fallacious and historically ignorant if you look at history in a vacuum.
Saying that ‘communism’ is bad because people tried it and that’s it, is just denying factors or reasons to have played in a part.
Communism has never been tried, the building of a socialist coalition has, it never was able to flourish due to the horrible conditions of the world. The USSR was built on the October revolution in a backwater severely underdeveloped country. Tsarist russia was very poor and very uneducated on mass. After the revolution, the communist party had to on mass try its best to educate the majority of the population and start local and state funded farms. Which worked well for the most part aside from the famine, due to crop failure and miscommunication. Stalin didn’t help too much with his relief efforts being stifled with his efforts to contain the information. (This is very very gross simplification of the eastern USSR famine)
The USSR had very little allies, a bloody revolution. A famine, and world war 2, which they took on 3/4ths of the Nazi army on the eastern front. Then sanctions from 30+ countries and the western world funding death squads and color revolutions aka the white army. Then the US making nuclear weapons forcing the USSR to arm itself, the USSR tried to deescalate the arms race. This costed them so many resources.
But despite this, the USSR was able to nearly triple the literacy rate, raise the standard of living by 32 years. Stopped the homelessness until the dissolution of the USSR(which was illegal) 1991.
Many scientific and technological advances, and art aswell
@@TearsOfThemthe classic "it didn't happen but it's a good thing that it happened"
Would it be accurate to say Henry Ford looks like a pissed off/psycho Mr. Rogers?
He's def more of an Oppenheimer
I’m so glad someone else thought this 😂 I thought it was just me
i think that's fair lol
Oda Nobunaga, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, and Tokugawa Ieyasu
vs.
Giuseppe Mazzini, Count Camillo di Cavour, and Giuseppe Garibaldi
The Unification of Japan vs the Unification of Italy
Surprise appearance by Otto von Bismarck, the key figure in the Unification of Germany.
as a aspiring director and musician with a huge interest in ERB these behind the scenes videos are like heaven y’all are geniuses to me !!
Yo it’s the host with the most glasnost! Ps the way you dropped “it’s Karrrl Marrrx” was so perfect
I missed you guys so much. I needed more ERB in my life.
I really like the focus on history over pop culture. My favorite feeling from this channel is when there's a joke that clearly has some researched context behind it. Seeing the accent work too is impressive!
Love all the work y'all put into the battles, it shows as the battle was amazing! Keep up the fantastic work, I can't wait for future battles!!
Thank you for the support. Very kind of you. Glad you enjoyed it.
So rad of you. Thank you!
Lovely lovely lovely, glad to be a patron and have watched ERB for 10 years
I've been a fan of ERB for a year now, and the last battle released at the time was Lara Croft vs. Indiana Jones. This is the first battle I saw released, and it's a banger.
I just love the making-ofs, and behind the scenes videos. It is great to see someone else's creative processes and how it differs from your own.
thanks for watching.
I was NOT expecting this WE LOVE ERB
We all do
JUST commented on the main channel about how impressed I am over how you managed to get genuine historical facts deep cuts and that I wanted a look into your research and prep process before writing. Thanks so much for making this extra video!
I remember watching Napoleon vs Napoleon in middle school, it’s so crazy seeing how far y’all have come
They've come a long way from the Hulk vs Kim Jung Un insanity 😂
I love how much care is put into the characters, it sounds like Lloyd may have been a bit skeptical of Marx at first but with how deeply you read I can tell there was an attitude shift just by how much thought and care was put into the accent
In case anyone else was wondering the still of one of the upcoming rap battles (1:10) is absolutely from the risky business dance scene
Tom Cruise versus… Ted Cruz?
The dry erase board during the scene where they were talking about the class they taught showed Tom Cruise vs Evil Knievel.
@@TheMurricane66 oh my god that makes so much sense, at the end of the rap battle there was two tom cruise movies, risky business and mission impossible and the third one was a like stunt jump
Those Ford photos had a very Homelander vibe going on.
To be fair, Ford irl was very Homelander-ish
Love the passion you all still put behind these ERBs. Thanks for sharing as always!
Next time, let's get Kropotkin vs Lenin because holy moly there's some serious potential there :D
Trotsky vs Makhno. Comment section would be filled with book length comments- including MLA format citations, of course- from various leftist tendencies
That teaser at 1:09 was giving the risky business hallway, could be Tom cruise vs another Tom?
6:34 JOHHHHHN FUUUUCCCCKKKIN NAAAAAA
As a Marxist, it's always interesting to me to see the various ways people come to actually reading Marx instead of just believing whatever they've heard about him. Researching him in order to write a rap for a rap battle video is certainly one of the more interesting ways I've heard lmao. But I'm glad y'all did.
Marxism requires a certain level of interest, too little and you just believe the common consensus that he was a nutcase. Too much interest and you actually read his work to discover he was a nutcase with a savior complex.
"As a Marxist".
Marxism, in Cambodia, killed 25% of the population; in URSS, did the Holodomor, a Holocaust that killed, indeed, more than the Nazi Holocaust; In China, killed almost 50 million.
Congratulations, you support an ideology that killed more than nazism. Every teacher who says bad stuff about Marx, is correct.
Who let you in to feel important? This was a peaceful conversation until you came here@@nielswerner5276
When he went from nervous about it to “this is a normal way of thinking”. I thought to myself. Hey, he did the thing. Ahhh to be a baby leftist once again
@@alexmillinger5524 Exactly. Shame that communism is treated as an usual ideology, instead of a killing one, like Nazism.
Pete's a great director, but there's something about the two of you going all out and only focusing on your characters. This is the first battle in a while where I felt super nostalgic. The match-up and interaction had big Tesla vs Edison energy. You even produced the music! Thank you for this battle, you both knocked it out of the park.
Anyone else get a flash back to Spielberg vs Hitchcock when Ford says "Produce". It says the exact same as Spielberg and i can't unhear it
Yes!! Henry Ford's whole first verse reminds me of Speilberg
i thought you guys quit but when i saw the new video i was insanely excited
I'm so glad Zach is still on the team, truly a pinnacle of comedic rap
I think Dante Alighieri vs C.S. Lewis could be an interesting one! Oh, or you could bring in John Bunyan and make it another three-way match!
Lloyd could be a voice actor. Hes just a chameleon in his roles. No two are the same
I suggest Romulus and Remus vs Cain and Abel
Two pairs of brothers where the older killed the younger and became the founder of a city
Oh, I would like to see that too!
1:09 OMG it's tom cruise!
Battle idea: I think it would be cool to make battle with some Chinese leaders, kinda like Russia ones
Few interesting people who could be featured
- Mao Zedong, obviously
- Qin Shi Huang, First Emperor of China
- Liu Bang/Emperor Gazou, man who went from average citizen to the emperor
- Puyi, Last Emperor of china, man who went from the emperor to average citizen
If they do that I think it's a necessity to also add Deng Xiaoping to the mix, like they did with Gorbachov in the Russian one
@@mixis1931 yeah, I do not say which leaders specifically, just Chinese ones at all
puyi is the only one I wouldn't include from this list because realistically he didn't actually do anything. his life story is interesting yes but he spent most of it either in exile, as a regular citizen, or as a puppet politician under the japanese. he's notable for his status as the last emperor of china, but not for anything he actually did or believed in as that emperor
@@nyctomint and that what makes him interesting
Then, it would be cool to find Chinese rappers dressed up as historical figures.
ERB never fails to blow my mind, the amount of work you guys put into this video is amazing, and the quality speaks for itself.
Also, I love how that man just drove the car to the studio like "Yeah, why not?" 😂
Tom Cruise in a future ERB is gonna be dope
I've been trying to think of who Tom Cruise would go up against. Im not super active in the community here, i just watch the videos, so maybe everyone else already knows. My best guess is Buster Keaton.
@@MrKyltpzyxm i figured Evel Knievel because on the board, they're written together OR Jackie Chan like in one of the polls they did a few years ago
Epic rap battles of history are really epic
Hey Peter and Lloyd- please read!
Heres a suggestion for the next Epic Rap Battle:
The long awaited President Nixon who attempted to hold onto power by cheating and forced to release it versus Cincinnatus- the Roman Senator who didn't desire absolute power, wanted to work and keep to his farm, but after many people begged him to save them he took power temporarily, secured their independence, and willing relinquished & refused absolute power twice after completing his duty.
Everyone thinks about the Roman Empire guys remember.. and you've wanted to do Nixon for a long time. It's the perfect matchup.
You should do Richard Nixon (The Crook[-ed politician] & The Liar) vs Cincinnatus (The Relenquisher [of power] & Truth Teller)
Feels like a complete return to form with a new evolved style each time you guys step back into the limelight. The detail work on the lyrics is honestly my favorite part of all of it, it makes everything feel so on point with the historical accuracy. You guys are always a joy to watch!
7:04 "This is actaully a few different clips". I thought it was just 3 Peter clones all together in one scene
This is such a good BTS episode, genuinely love how this has fully radicalised Lloyd, welcome to the revolution comrade
Wonder how many people will actually finally read Marx now instead of just repeating the state line lol. Is making ERB with Marx praxis?
"so what made you interested in learning more about the ideological side of politics?"
"henry ford vs karl marx epic rap battles of history"
Would you consider maybe going a lil in depth about in some of the lines in the battles in these Behind the scenes because even if its just some stuff, learning stuff is still cool, like how Sabaton has a history channel where they post a explanation of the historical event they are singing about giving you more appreciation of the song and of the historical event as well.
Why is Peter so good at playing crazy old guys?
Hey Lloyd, how you doing brother? The last & the first time we ever met was when you were shooting the Epic Studio in Toronto. I was with Phil Jarrett's. I was his manager. R.I.P Phil. Anyhow good to see your doing well brother. Love these battle videos, awesome...
6:55 This was insane to watch! Never would have guessed there was a mess up behind that part! I love watching how you guys make these videos! I also love how dedicated you were and really researched the part to make it feel new and unique! You guys did an excellent job! I've been watching for well over 10 years at this point and it's been crazy to see how you guys grow and keep getting better and better!
Y'all put in so much work to make these great. Been over a decade of legendary videos, thank you guys.
The Marx voice really reminded me of Lloyd’s Ragnar voice
Fascinating, seriously. I've seen every battle, but I've never watched a behind-the-scenes -- that was very interesting! I'm going to go back and watch some more, there's an incredible amount of stuff that goes into the 3-5 minute long battle videos that I enjoy so much. Keep up the awesome work, y'all!
Dropped here faster than the battle itself, this is the sort of stuff I love from erb, the behind the scenes and little stuff that made this battle be so good
Hooray, new ERB! I will say though, Marx was not a Utopian Socialist nor did he invent communism. He did, however, invent Scientific Socialism
Dialectical materialism, babeyyy
Peter makes the best subtle faces, Ford just staring into the camera is so goddamn funny.
Thank you for the long behind the scenes! Always a joy to see artists from different fields coming together! Another great rap battle!
🙏 very kind of you and is appreciated.
1:09 Yo they're doing a Tom Cruise battle. I'm so hyped!
I am so glad to see the 2 of you back together making more ERB videos and behind the scenes videos. I love your vids and was at first sad that there was a huge massive gap where nothing happened, which led me to believe y'all had other projects. But still, I'm just happy y'all are back!!! w00t!!!
Pete's expressions as Ford are a lot like his Mr. Rogers.
I was so excited to see this battle posted! I've been watching you guys since 2011, one of the inspirations of why I started rapping! You guys are the best
These BTS videos are so good. Seeing all the logistics, editing, etc is so fascinating
The research and dedication to making Marx's voice work make this one a new favorite of mine
Привет из России!)
Вы просто лучшие! Продолжайте и дальше нас радовать своим творчеством)))
Thank goodness, I couldn't find this when you dropped the new vid!! WHICH WAS AWESOME!!!
Phenomenal work as always. I really hope we get that PT Vs McMahon from the poll that this battle won.
With all the stuff from just this year from McMahon, that would be a brutal battle.
It was so amazing. So much more than I could have expected.
this one was really good :D
Dude went all the Captain on us (I did the thing Marshall did with a big picture of the Captain with my hand, totally lines up).
Really funny think about someone reading socialist theory for a fucking rap battle and not for like political reasons
Please do
Spartacus v Harriet Tubman - breakers of chains
Paul Atreides v Lawrence of Arabia - outsiders who led desert tribes against oppressors
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde v Dr. Frankenstein and the Monster - two scientists whose reach exceeded their grasp and the creatures they created
Bob Dylan v Johnny Cash - the legend of folk v the legend of country
Patrick Bateman v Tyler Durden - the two “you missed the point by idolizing them” poster boys, both conceived by 80s brat pack novelists and adapted into movies that were very different from the source material
Princess Diana v JFK - public figures who the world fell in love with and were taken from us too soon
Dylan vs Cash. That's actually a great one!
P.T Barnum vs Vince McMahon is an absolutely brilliant idea tho
I've been watching since the first season, and I'm so proud of you guys for consistently coming out with top shelf stuff. Love ya
The amount of research and preparation you all do in making each of these is so impressive. I have so much respect for your whole company. Great job!
Always love the amount of research and preparation that goes into these, Pete and Lloyd are genuinely great actors
Dude, remember when the rap battles had one static background that was just...a gradient? Y'all have really stepped up in the 20-ish years y'all have been doing this. Keep up the Good Work
I MISS ERB SO MUCH! so when's that Godzilla one coming out?
Tom Cruise versus Evel Knievel, the battle of the guys to do their own stunts
To prepare for his role, EpicLloyd invented communism and wrote a manifesto in 1848 🔥🔥
The dedication💯
I would love to see you guys do a rap battle with Petr Kropotkin
Or Makhno, or Stirner, or Bakunin
@Gooberpatrol66 yes omg them in battle would be so much fun! Also would want Goldman, Malatesta, and Berkman too!
Anarchists? In my ERB2 comment section?
Screw it, they should do every leftist tendency. Bordiga would be an absolutely incredible one just for all the memes and how much of a character he was. Posada as well, though he can barely be considered politically coherent enough to be placed on the political spectrum. Hoxha would be funny but it would probably just turn into bunker and Stalin jokes. Trotsky is an obvious option. Maybe a Sino-Soviet split battle between corn boy and Mao?
@@Gooberpatrol66 Omg Makhno and Trotsky battle holy shieeeettt that would be amazing.
I always enjoy the Behind The Scenes! Seeing how fun they're having, and I also get to learn a thing or two about the process of the videos. Sometimes, more fun factoids about the characters!
Awesome! Thanks for your hard work! ❤ Much Love!
You guys put so much love into it what you do and it shows 🩷 amazing job once again!
Awesome guys... Love the historical raps ... Your attention to detail is just amazing. 😁👍