Ender 3 conversion to 400x400 with the Ender Extender kit
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- Is your Ender 3 now too small? Perhaps you've invested time and money getting it how you like it and don't want to lose your tuned machine. Ender Extender kits retain much of the standard parts, but replace pieces of the frame to make the build volume much larger.
This was a pretty smooth install, some more pictures in the manual would be welcome but even in its current state this is very doable. The performance of the printer seems to be maintained but with a much larger build volume. Overall I am a fan of this mod because it represents great value for money over an off the shelf large format printer, with the bonus of being compatible with Ender 3 upgrades.
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This is where the advantages of extruded aluminum and standardized design are going to start to shine.
Agree, I'm sure we will see more concepts like this.
svnbit a cr10 series would be a better start if you’re asking these questions. One thing to consider is that print times do not scale linearly but rather cubically (print VOLUME). As a result, print times are extraordinarily long unless you’re running a volcano and a larger nozzle. For prints that long, you want to be completely sure that your settings are nailed down, and its much easier to do that with a prebuilt.
The sidewinder x1 has always been a great starting point for larger prints due to the titan and volcano that it comes with, as well as the ac heated bed. Its also priced slightly cheaper than the cr10 which is a nice bonus.
@@reidn5185 thanks. Accidentally deleted my post. What are your thoughts on the ender 3 vs ender 3 pro? I'm looking at an ender 3 that's in stock in the u.s to get it fast. Are the upgrades that make the pro easily done within the price difference now that they are closer in price? 50usd to be exact. Thanks just wondering if the regular ender 3 pro is better starting place at that price, since I plan on upgrading things anyways. (Forget this extender kit for now, I may just buy another product later on to get faster prints as you suggested) thanks for reply
@@svnbit8408 I've always chosen to pick up ender 3 pro for the increased rigidity of the chassis and the meanwell power supply. I don't skimp when it comes to PSU reliability, and the more rigid chassis is an added bonus. It's well worth it in my opinion, but I'm sure others have had good experiences with the stock ender 3.
You can always save that 50 dollars and get the stock ender 3, and use that money to throw upgrades at it. It's just a matter of where your priorities are at. If you're learning on a new machine, it wouldn't hurt to get the stock ender 3. When it comes to print quality, the pro isn't going to automatically give you better prints. That 50 dollars can go to things like the creality silent board, or a skr 1.3, which offer huge quality of life improvements (nearly silent printer). It is intimidating at first, but teaching tech is a great resource for getting started.
You can start with either one and be fine. The ender 3 really is great in that you can keep building off from it. Maybe pick one up and keep looking around youtube to see what others are doing.
In the world of CNCs there are already a few parametric designs for machines you can extend at will (since those use a low Z height, compared to 3D printers, you have less stability issues with bigger machines).
This is exactly what "open source" hardware was meant for. Very nice video.
Should be called a Ext-Ender kit =)
OR MAYBE EVEN THE ENDER EXTENDER how cool wouldnt THAT name be?
Boom Tish. 😁
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Thanks for that one Dad
Oh wow dude... missed opportunity for sure...
It is awesome that he reviews the kit and comes up with some improvements that the supplier quickly implements. Shows the respect this reviewer is afforded! Well done!
I think this was a great idea! An awesome video too, I've watched all of your videos dealing with the Ender 3 pro. I'm very happy with mine and will most likely get the extender kit soon.
It's brilliant that you do reviews like this and your feedback goes back to the manufacturer for fine tuning.
One year later, They have changed a lot in the kit.
Man I love that you’re the first channel that comes up when I search anything 3D printing related. Originally stumbled on you from your S13 airbox video when I was looking at options for my STI
So happy you reviewed this... Mark makes the most awesome kits...I love mine!
Absolutely great video, Mike. I assembled my Ender 3 Pro last week and I learned a lot in the process. I didn't experience any issues of note. I really like that an upgrade kit for increasing the build volume is available for this product. As you said near the end of the video, this is a great value for the money compared to larger "base" printers above the Ender 3/Pro that cost noticeably more. I will be ordering this upgrade for my printer. Your video hit all the right emphasis on assembly for the new unit. I'll have to ensure I print the new parts for the Y-axis motor and belt-tension. Please continue creating this content for 3D printer enthusiasts like myself.
You are the best. I bought the extender kit but followed your instructions exclusively rather than theirs. You just make it simple and quite frankly, fun. Now, I'm going to offer you some advice on cutting glass. Its the exact opposite of what you'd expect...stop being so gentle. With glass, you need to just get at it and don't be afraid of it. Make "ONE" firm score with your glass cutter.....not 2, not 3, JUST ONE! , slide the glass to an edge and snap it. That's it. As long as you can see your score mark you are good to go.
This is the kit I have been waiting for. I don't need the extra height but the width and depth are a huge improvement.
I've been looking at these kits, might get one now. Love ur vids
As always great video! This is exactly the type of modification I was looking for without having to buy a new printer.
This video is very timely! I've been considering getting another machine with a larger build volume, but this appears to be the best bang for the buck. Another benefit is, it involves more tinkering! Thanks for the video, Michael!
I was so very tempted to get this! Thank you for te review.
thank you for detailed explanation ! I was looking for it this week. Good job keep going.
And here I thought I had finally finished upgrading my Ender 3 Pro.... Damnit! LOL
hell i just started and now this thing pops up lol
Had this idea when I got my Ender 3. Glad someone went and sourced the parts for me.
That ender 3 upgrade look beautiful. Great video!
I don't even own an Ender 3 and I still watched the whole video
Months ago I was in your position of speech. Maybe it's time for you to get a standard Ender 3. Totally worth it for me.
That's because he explains so well it's easy to watch!! Because of watching his videos my Ender3 prints like a dream!!!
The Kay3D CoreXY printer conversion kit is a great product! Looking forward to the review.
Great video! Very helpful! Just got the 400xl for my Ender3 pro. Looking forward to getting it swapped over in the next couple of weeks. 400x400x500 is going to be quite a dramatic difference from the stock setup! Can’t wait!
I completed this build after watching this. It do like the kit. Now the extender is one of my most used machines. Along with the larger build volume, I also added other mods to better print PETG, other abrasives and flex. Nice! Thanks for this.
OUTSTANDING Great Kit and great demo. I really like the idea and think this is great to help the used Ender market too. Thank You, need a kit for my CR 10s Pro to MAX!
Fantastic videos you have truly helped me so much going from my first design to a wonderful print
Thanks a ton for this, was going to pull the plug but think I will wait and see what the KAY3D offers before I decide...;)
Stay safe my friend!
Fantastic! Now I have to buy it and make a video for my channel, absolutly!Thanks for this video!
Great Video Michael. I have the 300x300x400 kit and love it.
I chose to go this route instead of just getting a bigger printer because I had already invested in a Direct Drive, Micro Swiss Hotend and SKR e3 mini. I'm super happy with it. Thanks Mark!
I am late but after 3 years how is it worki
i like this, i'm actually wishing to see more corexy kits and or builds.
Wow, great extension
Thanks for sharing this interesting project :-)
Ordered this kit I'm excited to receive it and start putting it together.
What an exciting upgrade option! I should receive my Ender 3-P in about two weeks. I'm excited to get started, but was bummed that the print area seemed DOOMED to be just a bit small for my liking. Now I have new hope!
Great idea and if your only 179 into your ender 3 like me... $318 total investment is going to get you that give you a sizable build volume and the luxury of not having to leave the ENDER community for support!
Realistically, ender community support is useless if you're at this point in 3D printing. You'd be better off looking in a custom builds community since majority of the ender community are a bunch of noobs. Speaking as someone who came from the anet groups the level of knowledge and technical knowledge was much greater than in ender groups.
@@strykervalkyrion That is who this stuff is aimed at. You could realistically do it for cheaper if you source the raw material yourself. My problem with machines like this is that they will never be reliable enough for production. It will always have to be tinkered with and adjusted every few months.
@@macgyver9134 I've been looking at doing this myself, as for the reliability, the Ender 3 makes a good base, you can start with this and build out easily if your clever enough and it works out cheaper than buy a bigger printer
Right now the ender 3 is 189 and the ender 5 is 349, if I wanted to get a bigger printer I think I'd just get the bigger printer from the start.
Love the video now I am thinking about getting one of these kits.
I have a Bob’s E3 CNC machine that allows for a similar type of upgrade path to their larger E4 model. It is simply brilliant and creates a desirable upgrade path should the need arise. I like that Creality has done the same thing here, so that you don’t have to learn a whole new ecosystem. Great instructional!
Very nice upgrade! Thanks for detailing all the steps. Too bad the original heatbed won’t heat up the entire plate properly. Looking forward to your CoreXY upgrade vid!
Great stuff Michael. I have an original Ender 3 in a box ready for installation, this give me ideas. Cheers, JAYTEE
Your videos are awesome. Just finished doing a bunch of upgrades to my Ender 3 and was wondering if anything else could be done. Now I have a new vision....bigger 400 x 400 x 400. Thanks for the excellent detail, really helps to understand what to expect.
I bought this based on your review. I installed it about 8 months ago. Works 👍 great on upgrading the ender pro. I added microswiss DD all metal hotend combo, BL touch and recently whambam PEX ...and use it mainly for PETG and flex 💪 Thx! with the larger nozzles it makes some nice large usable parts.
Omg this is what I been waiting for. I was in the market for a new 3d printer
And just when I thought I had finally finished upgrading!
looking forward to this being back in stock
@Teaching Tech Awesome Job as usual Michael!
I like the idea of "Upgrade KIts" to bring new features/functionality to older printers.
Awesome! I just snagged an Ender 3 Pro on sale for $183 USD shipped to replace my well used Tevo and have been looking at these kits. Great concise video.
I wish I had known about this last month when I put linear rails on mine, I got the 400mm rails so I can upgrade as needed, I also put a dual Y rail for support.
Loved the video, you can easily see that you are a teacher, from another teacher
Great idea, thanks for the info and great overview
will have to do this one for sure!!! 1000 thumbs up
this is actually quite a cool upgrade for the ender 3 and would probably pick up myself if i had a need for it. for now, my ender does ok for what i need it to do which is mostly just smaller projects. i'll keep this in mind if ever feel like i need to upgrade.
converting to core xy is much more interesting for me. waiting it thanx.
Since I got 2 mk3's my ender 3 is just catching dust for the last couple of months.
This is a great solution to make my ender 3 useful again!
I was wondering when someone was going to do this. Aluminum extrusion design lends itself to easier frame expansion.
Now, we can all print our InMoov robot parts faster overall with multiple part arrangement... ;-)
You could also plan ahead, buy the original Ender-3 DIY kit, and the Extender kit, and put it all together at assembly (minimal disassembly/re-assembly).
i was considering doing this..or just pick up either a cr10 or chiron for 100 more lol
Excelent kit! Great video! 👏
instead of deep sockets you can use a 'go through' socket set. Incredibly useful for long bolts or threaded rod.
This is a upgrade I'll be be doin for sure with the upgraded motherboard
That was awesome; vary good review. I'm already looking to get an Ender 3, and now this review seals the deal. "Thanks dud" or what ever your name is?
Love the way it looks and been wanting a bigger printer and the cost is cheaper than the bigger CR-10's.
Looking forward to the corexy conversion
awesome video.. Mark should add this to his page
Well, I guess I don't need to go buy that CR-10 anymore! Thanks for showing us this kit.
The trick to flawlessly cut glass is to score and then break from one end of the score. Intuitively, most people try to break make the break by applying even pressure along the score line using a fulcrum or hanging it off a tables edge. This seldom works. You can still hang one edge off a table but make sure the break starts from one end of the score. A glass snapper, the notched part of the cutter, or padded pliers set to one side of the score line and a deliberate snap is all it takes.
If your glass cutter has a ball on the end use it to tap the edge like you say.
Thank you. Already hit the print limit of the printer and need to go bigger but did not want to have multiple printers.
16:34. Never thought of hairspray thx 🙏
Really cool but to be fair I have the Ender 3 Max and having only one Z axis rod across such a wide machine causes the X gantry to sag. This requires precise Z axis roller adjustment but it also tend to get them "stuck" at certain heights causing bulging layer lines(similar to elephants feet) where the gantry had trouble rolling up smoothly. Getting a dual Z motor setup is definitely worth it in my eyes.
I would have brought this over the copymaster 400 that I am having to replace the mainboard on because it lacks separate filament cooling. This makes a lot more sense.
Standard mirrors are second surface devices meaning the flat surface is actually the back of the mirror as that the is the surface that is in contact with the molten salt... Great video as usual... Keep them coming...
Can’t wait to se the core xy one
Looking forward to trying it....
I've got one on the way that will be here tomorrow!
Enjoy your build :)
When cutting glass, wet the cutter with a light oil like paraffin, white spirit, or WD40 (so it wets the glass). For some reason it makes a big difference to your success rate.
Aw come on, I just finished an Ikea Lack enclosure for my normal Ender 3...but now I want the thicc Ender 3.
I'm sure someone else has also commented it but you have to use specific wires for the thermistor. Every time there's a change in the metal, it creates a voltage (think very basic, weak battery) that affects your readings. It might be possible to tune for that change but it does make a difference
Been saying this a long time convert your existing printers make them bigger for a few bucks more, Great video !
So I have the 400XL version and as a printer newbie as far as the modding and tech side, I had very few issues...and basically all were my fault. I have been printing with this for a couple of months and the only thing I will say of note is I have fried two SKR miniE3. I theorize it's because it's moving the large bed and mirror and is over heating. So I have changed the cooling and on next print I will change the bed speed to 300 like you said.
Otherwise, this mod is awesome. Mark and the fellow Facebook group members are extremely helpfu and nice. I only wish there was a 500x500x500 option!
Am in Australia; bought directly from their website during Cyber Monday sale (40% off and free international shipping) and it was shipped free of charge by DHL (took 3 days from USA to Oz, typical of DHL). Super easy, excellent value (couldn't have DIY'd this for much less, excluding the time sink it would have been). Nice.
Thanks for the guide! I ordered mine before the video and just got it yesterday, so this will be a big help! On an unrelated topic, have you heard of Cheetah 5.0 yet? It's vanilla marlin someone dumbed down especially for creality printers and it's a lot easier to configure, you should check it out!
Vaz mode. LOL love the language. Keek up the good work. Love the videos.
My kit came in yesterday. That is today’s project. Thanks for the build guide. I am using your rear load electronics box. Are you going to do a remix for the extended version?
I don’t own an ender3 but I feel compelled too comment and say “awesome content”!!!
Love your work!
Can you do a video on the Sidewinder X1 broken idler arm please.
Wait did that snap in your review and you fixed it?
🤜🏼🤛🏼🇦🇺😎🤓🍀🍀🍀
wicked, really glad you did this video :)
you can easily take down those jagged edges with some 120 grit sand paper and a mechanical sander. I'm the same way then working with glass, If you do this do be sure to wear breathing protection as the glass dust can be harmful.
Thanks for video, waiting fore CoreXY ender3)
Did you say corexy?
What about extending the x axis and fitting a tool changer on the right hand side. Sure the the tool change would be slow compared to corexy, but it looks quite simple in theory, it's just getting parts delivered to test it out maybe a problem. Keep safe. Covid-19.
"Ender Extender" is so catchy
Great piece!
Got my CR-10 mini for $1performance
Nice video. Nice kit.
I think the price is very reasonable, I was sort of expecting the price to be quite a bit more. Even if you got the biggest kit, that puts the price with the Ender 3 at about $400. That is a big print space for a pretty cheap price. Cant wait to see you convert it to a core xy.
Thank you I'm glad I found you
This is so frigging awesome
Damn, I just installed a linear rail kit. Maybe with some longer rails I can use this kit.
First question I thought of
I believe with longer rails you could retain the rest of your kit.
@@TeachingTech can you measure how long the rails should be now?
@@Sacrilikt I imagine 400mm rails will do the trick
@@brianfisher7385 @Teaching Tech
The new build volume x and y is 400mm, so it should be 500mm rail. With the normal Ender 3, the build volume is 235mm and 300mm rails are mounted. The only question is whether there is space for 500mm rail´s. Unfortunately I cannot measure it
Love the part where you cover your display in hairspray.
Another great Video! With the available printable parts, does a kit even need to be purchased? As long as you willing to do the hard work (buy longer rails, cut to size, drill required holes, etc) it should be doable. Definitely looking forward to the next upgrade video.
I guess you could do it yourself, but personally I would prefer to buy a kit wit the fiddly bits done. Each to their own.
Great video!
I hope that Core X-Y conversion also is for the CR-10 i love the thing but i hate seeing that bed slinging back and forth.
I've been a subscriber since I got my E3 in September and your content is top notch! I've enjoyed your in depth reviews and guides since day 1. Which brings me to this for you to answer, or anyone who can help really: how do you suggest for a beginner to get into 3d design? Is there a guide you would suggest?
Check out the Maker's Muse TH-cam channel. Angus has some great instruction videos about working in Fusion360.
I am so getting this kit.
Hi Michael, since a few months, I’m thinking about how to make my Ender a dual extruder.
I was thinking about something really similar to this kit.
My idea was to extend the Ender in the X axes to make space for a second hotend.
With a different profile for the x axes, it could be possible to have 2 hotends on the x axes.
With the new space due to the extension kit, there would be left and right the space to park the hotend while the other hotend is printing.
Do you think that would be possible... and make a video about it, may be we can go a bit more in detail together...if you like
Cheers here from Germany
Mathias
Quick tip to deal with making a glass bed for the bed. I scored two 400x400 picture frames for $40aud. After abit of disassembly, presto a super thin glass sheets that fit perfect and a spare which as we all know will be needed later.
Got it from catch if any Aussies are intrigued
Hi, to be able to cut grass perfectly, you need to do exactly two things: 1. Make a SINGLE cut with the cutting tool; 2. While holding the smaller part with our hand on the opposite edge from the cut made and without the rest of support, type with the small hammer from the bottom of the cut in several different places.
What size nozle did you use to print the skull vase? I love the X3D sparkling filament, but it always blocks up my 0.4mm nozzle.