Achieve true 3D printing with non planar slicing

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  • This is the most interesting thing I’ve done with my 3D printer in some time. Instead of printing in a series of 2D planes stacked up to form a 3D shape (2.5D), this non planar technique creates geometry with true 3D tool paths that can eliminate the steps often seen on shallow surfaces. Based on the amazing Masters Thesis of Daniel Ahlers and the University of Hamburg, this development can be tried yourself if you are willing to put in some time to setting it up.
    In this video I’ll lead you through step by step on how to setup a virtual Linux machine on your PC, compile the custom version of Slic3r and then share with you my results. The future is bright and I thank people like Daniel Ahlers and Moritz Walter for leading the way.
    The STL, gcode and Slic3r profile for the final test - print at your own risk: www.thingiverse.com/thing:384...
    The 2018 version I showcase step by step in this video:
    Original viral video from the author: • 3D Printing of Nonplan...
    Github with custom version of slic3r and step by step instructions to compile: github.com/Zip-o-mat/Slic3r/t...
    Master thesis if you want to read up in detail: tams.informatik.uni-hamburg.d...
    Guide to setting up Linux on a Windows 10 PC in Virtualbox: itsfoss.com/install-linux-in-...
    Virtual box download: www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downl...
    Ubuntu image download: ubuntu.com/download/desktop
    Shared folder setup in Virtualbox Ubuntu: • VirtualBox Tutorial 10...
    Hero Me fan duct for Ender 3: www.thingiverse.com/thing:309...
    Hero Me guide and test: • Hero Me fan duct teste...
    The 2016 version I showed briefly at the start of the video:
    Hackaday article on non-planar printing: hackaday.com/2016/07/27/3d-pr...
    Github for above post processor: github.com/makertum/non-plana...
    Strawberry Perl for Windows (needed to run the script): strawberryperl.com/
    Buy quality and affordable filament from X3D. Buy 3, get 1 free and a free sample pack with every order: www.x3d.com.au
    Take a look around and if you like what you see, please subscribe.
    Support me on Patreon: / teachingtech
    #nonplanar #3dprinting

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  • @TeachingTech
    @TeachingTech  4 ปีที่แล้ว +731

    Hi everyone, some updates:
    - A bunch of people pointed out that Windows 10 now has an embedded Linux environment. I installed this and went through the process again. I had a couple of errors and had to manually install missing cpan libraries via the command line. Slic3r did successfully compiled, but only runs via command line rather than with a graphical user interface as seen in this video. I'm sure there's a way to add even more modules to get the GUI working, but it's beyond my knowledge.
    - Some people also mentioned setting up a dual boot configuration. This is another great suggestion but I need to have my Windows PC on at all times to keep my video production going, so not suitable for me.
    - There have been some viewers pointing me towards 'air brush' nozzles. I've ordered a set, they look ideal for this technique.

    • @Derbutcher
      @Derbutcher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The easyest way to share this experience is, when you Export the Ubuntu vm as ova/ovf and upload it somewhere...
      How big is the vm?

    • @UltimatePerfection
      @UltimatePerfection 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      What I would try, would be a dome since it's pretty round (in fact, half of a sphere) and would be a true test for a process like this.

    • @BenignStatue71
      @BenignStatue71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      It's possible to run a Remote X instance in Windows to render GUIs for Linux programs. I haven't used Xming in half a year, but it should allow you to run any of the Slic3r GUIs when the X server and Xming are configured correctly.

    • @grandaspanna
      @grandaspanna 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I have this working with WSL under Windows 10 and have used VcXsrv as the Xserver. It also allows pretty easy access between filesystems for loading STLs and writing back the gcode.

    • @moodberry
      @moodberry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@grandaspanna Any chance you could make this a tutorial for dummies?

  • @codyh2720
    @codyh2720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1036

    Me: Looks at my computer
    My computer: don't even think about it

    • @rockyfosgate
      @rockyfosgate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      😂

    • @tylere8624
      @tylere8624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I just burst out laughing... thank you!

    • @codyh2720
      @codyh2720 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Heads Mess 😂😂😂

    • @wernerhiemer406
      @wernerhiemer406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Heads Mess Or your toe nails curl up to embrace the shoot you made into your foot by using some fancy thingy which thinks it got some plusses. You cee what is there might be classy.

    • @wernerhiemer406
      @wernerhiemer406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Heads Mess Ok. And then I came up with: Do you ever seen a saw sewn a sea? Sorry were playing around with my new Ryoba aka japonese style saw.

  • @AQDuck
    @AQDuck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3753

    Finally anti aliasing makes it to the real world!

    • @tenchuZsenran
      @tenchuZsenran 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      LOL

    • @niccster1061
      @niccster1061 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      _David_ while it isnt technically aliasing that happens with 3d printers, it is VERY COMPARABLE.

    • @niccster1061
      @niccster1061 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      _David_ aliasing "the jagged, or saw-toothed appearance of curved or diagonal lines" Anti aliasing is removing that effect. What you get because of the 2.5d of 3d printers is JAGGED/SAW TOOTHED APPEARANCE OF OF DIAGONAL/CURVED LINES. its literally THE SAME THING
      "nah" dont cut it

    • @FireFox64000000
      @FireFox64000000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Things nobody thought would be true.

    • @bryansiepert9222
      @bryansiepert9222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@niccster1061 You're right but don't feed the trolls.

  • @drewbierlein2782
    @drewbierlein2782 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    My favorite thing about your videos is your willingness to admit failure or that you don't know something. "I've used it before but needed a refresher", "I don't have the knowledge about...", "I had to go look up how to...". So refreshing to see someone willing to fail and learn than someone who edits their videos to make it look like they know everything. Much respect, sir! And great video!

    • @SciFiFactory
      @SciFiFactory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have to agree.
      I didn't even notice how uncommon this is until I watched this.
      The worst part: I would very very likely be guilty of editing out all the failures.
      I find this video incredibly remarkable for this and suddenly feel as I someone pointed a spotlight at my life.

  • @AntaresSQ01
    @AntaresSQ01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    holy crap, how did this not immediately get picked up by major printer manufacturers and major slicers??? This is amazing, it's crazy useful for printing curved thin plates, like go pro mounts, where you have to have the layers go along the mount so it's strong but also smooth on the end.

  • @xander169
    @xander169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1277

    Never have I identified with a TH-cam creator so much than "I just wasn't smart enough to figure it out."

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  4 ปีที่แล้ว +197

      Honesty is a big part of my channel :)

    • @MSecYT
      @MSecYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Made me laugh but for real.. He followed the research of a Masters thesis, then researched installing ubuntu linux in a VM, even including the guest additions and then was able to reproduce the Masters thesis results. Teching Tech is plenty smart enough he's just selling himself short! :)

    • @forevertheuni
      @forevertheuni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TeachingTech and Mike Warner, probably it's faster to run ubuntu from a usb stick or external HD, you can have native HW access. :) (this is if you don't want to install). Thanks again Michael, I love your videos, by far you are the 3d printing channel host that I most respect.

    • @wtfvids3472
      @wtfvids3472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@forevertheuni you can have native(direct) 3d access with virtualbox now.

    • @mahna_mahna
      @mahna_mahna 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I've been a professional programmer and amateur tech enthusiast for a couple of decades. I consider myself intelligent, but "a man's gotta know his limitations." You just can't know everything, and often trying to grab someone else's project off the internet puts you face-to-face with that. Most people write instructions without really making it something someone can follow from scratch, mainly because this can be extremely time consuming to do. And some people barely write instructions at all.

  • @3DPrintingNerd
    @3DPrintingNerd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +657

    HOLY COW you knocked it out of the park! Great results, man!

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Thanks Joel, the future is bright.

    • @matsbjnnes366
      @matsbjnnes366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It would be epic if you could make a video on this as well! Not the installation part, but the uses of it and different prints using this technique!

    • @imdone8243
      @imdone8243 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Linking park.

    • @akifa9635
      @akifa9635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@imdone8243 I'm done

    • @JP-xd6fm
      @JP-xd6fm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TeachingTech Is 2021, Why there's no 3d printer doing that from factory?, It is very difficult for 3d printer manufacturers to make a real 3d printer?

  • @Nordern
    @Nordern 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    I know i'm very late, but i just found out today randomly, that MIG welding nozzles use the same threads as the nozzles for 3d printers! They are full copper and 25mm long, for this application they might be really usefull if it can carry the heat down without problems

    • @hoenndpn9200
      @hoenndpn9200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You mean the contact tip or the gas shroud?

    • @Dongaz
      @Dongaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@hoenndpn9200 Contact tip

    • @tgirard123
      @tgirard123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Dongaz do you have a specific supplier where you saw this? I don't have a MIG welder so I don't know exactly what to look for. Maybe a link or a reference to where you saw it? That would be very cool if there's something out there already

    • @iainburgess8577
      @iainburgess8577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's an idea with potential. The original bore may not be perfect, but it's copper, easily accessible & comes in a range of sizes. Relatively cheap, too.
      Well suited for modification. Rebore them, change external profile.. even turn them into stand-offs for standard nozzles. Lots of potential.

    • @heavyweather
      @heavyweather 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nobody owning a lathe anymore...?

  • @supercuttlefish1
    @supercuttlefish1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I’ll have to wait until someone makes a cura plugin, ‘cus most of this went over my head, but super exciting

  • @misamokuzelpizu
    @misamokuzelpizu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +721

    "you wanna experience true 3d, morty, do you?."

    • @donibeh
      @donibeh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Here! True level, bitch!

    • @EllTheBob
      @EllTheBob 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sir Scofferoff everything is layers!

    • @unsilentzone3357
      @unsilentzone3357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      this thread brings me tears of joy XD im not alone in this freaked up world after all...

    • @MonsterPumpkin
      @MonsterPumpkin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      WOAhhhhh...

    • @goddamnmaddog2024
      @goddamnmaddog2024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@unsilentzone3357 you are not alone...

  • @gonun69
    @gonun69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    This is awesome. No idea why I'm watching this as I don't have a 3D printer, but it's awesome.

    • @calebsherman886
      @calebsherman886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      g e t o n e
      Actually don't, unless you know you're definitely going to use it a lot.

    • @thefluke79
      @thefluke79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lol, still get one. Even if you don't use it much, you will be glad you had one when you need it.

    • @Spartacusse
      @Spartacusse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I have one, Ender-3 just like in the video. I probably won't do all this work, but it's good to know I can reference a somewhat straight forward video if and when I need it.
      It wasn't easy to get this printer, my country charges a steep 100% importation fee, along with a low $1/h minimum wage. Even though all the financial obstacles, and the fact that I use it probably once a month, I'm still glad I bought it.

    • @Inventorsquare
      @Inventorsquare 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gonun you care about the future.

    • @NorthernKitty
      @NorthernKitty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They're tremendous fun and a great learning experience!! But they have limited uses in prototyping and custom work for the reasons David stated - there are often less time-intensive solutions than using a 3D printer. For most of us, it's simply a learning hobby for enjoyment and relaxation. On the other hand, those rare moments when you can simply print your own fix for something you can no longer get a part for... that's a magical moment worth every penny and every minute!!

  • @Technicallyaddicted
    @Technicallyaddicted 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    When I bought it the ender3 pro was the best bang for buck in all of additive manufacturing. In 2021 a lot of people dismiss it as glitchy and poorly made. I have about $500 invested with all the mods over the years. Based on mm, speed of travel and number of hours printing my printer head has traveled over 1000 miles, and printed more than 40kg of plastic. The thing is a highly underestimated workhorse. Sla is nice and all, but with some sandpaper, a shadow detector, and bondo I’ve been getting functional mechanical parts and desktop accessories that rival the best you can get in FDM. My ender 3 outperforms a $1000 Prusia with ease. I’ve done all the repairs myself so I know this thing in and out. Still rocking original steppers, and power supply. After more than 10,000hrs!!!

    • @toddkuznitz3629
      @toddkuznitz3629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now this i have to learn about

    • @Technicallyaddicted
      @Technicallyaddicted 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@toddkuznitz3629 there are much better kits nowadays and SLA has come miles. An elegoo Saturn will run you back $500 and is so detailed you never need to buy a model kit again. I think creality has some new offerings too all in the sub $500 category. However I don’t plan on upgrading until this hobby is pubic and not niche. My ender3 has been tricked out so far that it doesn’t make sense to upgrade. I have almost every performance mod you can get, but still run stock hotend, PSU, stepper, frames and belts. I’ve changed hotends once in 4 years. More important than quality of printer is quality of assembly. I get wicked prints not because of the mods I’ve done, but because every parallel bar sits at perfect level to the table and then to the floor, and every perpendicular bar sits at exactly 90• not 91, not 89. Threadlock where needed torqued to 20ft-lbs. every single screw, every single bearing every single roller triple checked. A smart person can have one assembled in less than an hour, but to do it properly should take you 4-5 if you know exactly what you’re doing. Teaching tech is my go-to for knowledge, but if I can help lmk.

  • @hotends
    @hotends 4 ปีที่แล้ว +390

    "clears throat" We detected a call to manufacturers in this part of the internet... is it pointier hotends you all want?

    • @jimmypuppo3965
      @jimmypuppo3965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      yes please

    • @wordreet
      @wordreet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I guess they'll need to be harder than brass as the nozzle edge/face would technically need to be angled, or maybe radiused.

    • @qwertzbalken6076
      @qwertzbalken6076 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Rene Jurack has made a nozzle-Adapter that uses Airbrush-nozzles. "Youprintin3D" is selling them.These would be perfect for this application!

    • @wordreet
      @wordreet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@qwertzbalken6076 Interesting stuff!!!! 👍

    • @Hilldrum
      @Hilldrum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didn't hear the phone ring.

  • @undogmatisch5873
    @undogmatisch5873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    That's, what I love about the internet; I can watch a video from the other side of the globe, to find some really helpful informations, originated just a few minutes away from me.

    • @Boneyyym
      @Boneyyym 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same here, just visited the campus a couple of days ago :)

    • @imdone8243
      @imdone8243 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Boneyyym can we trade places?

  • @nobodytoyou4887
    @nobodytoyou4887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +604

    Now we just wait for companies like creality to make cheaper 5 axis 3d-printers :P

    • @RomanoPRODUCTION
      @RomanoPRODUCTION 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Not wait, just harass like a mob

    • @GuyMassicotte
      @GuyMassicotte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      You can modify the printer that you allready have ;)

    • @xaytana
      @xaytana 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@GuyMassicotte Problem is, 5 axis is much more difficult than just adding a couple of axes to a normal printer.
      G-code becomes more complicated. You'd need a specific program for it, as 5 axis uses a different coordinate system. Slicers are only programmed to make layers, where a true 5 axis part would need shells. And the current non-planar solutions are only generating shells on the top surface, where a 5 axis part would need a shell that covers all surfaces; think of topology and transforming a cube into any other shape, 3 axis can only manipulate the top face, 5 axis can manipulate more than just that one face.
      There's reasons why 5 axis printing is mostly still in development, with the only working variants being highly experimental. Same reasons as why 5 axis machining is just recently starting to get into the hobby market. It's not as simple as you might think it is.
      But go ahead, modify a printer to have two more axes, without the rest that's needed for 5 axis, and tell us how that works out.

    • @DGworksIvan
      @DGworksIvan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i'd never consider Creality as a inventor
      they're just manufacturers modding other's existing work and sell it as cheap as possible

    • @aellis6692
      @aellis6692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@xaytana my mom runs 5 axis mills she says it's not that hard lol she has been doing it for 27 years so dont feel bad

  • @spikekent
    @spikekent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Never in my widest imagination did I see this coming. What an amazing implementation. Thanks for all the work you put into making this easier for us mere mortals Michael.

  • @HCarter111
    @HCarter111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely blown away. Thanks for putting in the extra work to demonstrate this.

  • @PcandTech
    @PcandTech 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Let's call out @CncKitchen to investigate how it affects layer adhesion /strength

  • @jtms1200
    @jtms1200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    anytime you see Perl as a dependency on a project there is a solid chance the author is an OG elite neck beard

  • @evilgeenius2
    @evilgeenius2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how concise and clear your explanations are for everything you say. Keep up the good work

  • @ohitstarik
    @ohitstarik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly man this is so well done. If I ever had some important research i'd want you to present it, perfect presentation, perfect credits given, amazing genuineity. Appreciate these videos.

  • @AviationNNO
    @AviationNNO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great work! Sharing your trial and error process will save countless hours for people following the same path towards the same end result. Thank you!

  • @SparkyHelper
    @SparkyHelper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Getting the software work for tilting a delta printer head is an exciting prospect for next decade.

    • @m3chanist
      @m3chanist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly, and its already been done, look at hexapod cnc machines like the Okuma pm600

  • @nunyabusiness9043NunyaBiz
    @nunyabusiness9043NunyaBiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great, comprehensive and yet interesting video. Glad to hear that you’re teaching in person as well. I wish we had this stuff when I was growing up; now I am growing sideways instead of up, but I am an American...

  • @76projects11
    @76projects11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    probably the most impactful thing in FDM ever! thanks for highlighting it. I can also imagine this will improve strength of part which is always a good thing

  • @haarbear1
    @haarbear1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am very impressed with those results. Crap, now I have to figure out how to do this with my current 2.5D printer, lol. Great video, Michael!

  • @w00tse
    @w00tse 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that you really went step by step in installing all the necessary programs etc. Thanks a lot!

  • @cornflaik
    @cornflaik 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I have to say, congratulations. you’ve somehow picked a ton of content I’m interested in before I know it. You nailed it with the MPCNC lowrider, now this.
    I’m not sure how to support you or help contribute insight or guidance, but you’re doing great. Your videos have a great contemporary topic and and wonderful recognition of where you’ve sourced your insight.
    Thanks, just, thanks!

  • @dubmfg
    @dubmfg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Quality research, going back to before the viral video and working from the beginning. Thorough and informative, great job!

  • @iwantthisfuckingname
    @iwantthisfuckingname 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is HUGE! I'll bet within a year we will see true 3D printing. Thanks for posting this.

    • @RFC3514
      @RFC3514 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People kind of had that reaction to (2D) plotters vs. dot matrix printers, but in the long run the resolution and speed of dot printers increased so much that curve quality became a non-issue. Whether non-planar printing is worth investing in (both in terms of software and hardware) will depend on how quickly the resolution and speed of planar printing increases.
      Sometimes, throwing more resolution (or more memory, or more MHz, etc.) at a problem is just faster and cheaper. Non-planar would still be smoother (just like plotters can still make smoother curves than printers), but beyond a certain resolution it just doesn't matter.
      In the long run, I'd put my money on high resolution SLS / photo resin printing over FDM, anyway, or possibly an "inkjet style" technology (with multiple small nozzles shooting microscopic particles, instead of a single extruder).

  • @drewx10
    @drewx10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW! I'm blown away with this evolution. Thanks for diving so deep on this. I've just gotten started in 3d printing and already have seen the issues with the stairstep look that need to be resolved.

  • @Abdal-RahmanI
    @Abdal-RahmanI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The VM guys were welcomed to the 3D printing world by people like you, it was great to see the whole process, even with the mistakes and the learning.
    Thank you!

  • @MilitantPacifista
    @MilitantPacifista 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    In this video: good reasons why one should know their ways around a command line and linux...

  • @xaytana
    @xaytana 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I mentioned this on the other video, but the next logical steps for non-planar are hot ends that have steeper angles, taller height to width ratio. Basically, with a steeper angled nozzle, it could fit into tighter curves. This also needs an entirely different cooling system, though, but that shouldn't be too difficult to develop.
    Non-planar also nicely extends into 5axis printing, which should be the next step of developments for the future of FDM.

  • @gustavopagnozzi2306
    @gustavopagnozzi2306 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just to be clear I love your videos and how you explain and demonstrate how it works and how it is done. with that said, for sure you are right on how we do 3D printing today and how it should be done! I appreciate you point it out the original video and all the steps to accomplish it. Thank you!

  • @timrobinson9192
    @timrobinson9192 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Although I'm a newbie with printing, I find this amazing. Thanks for bringing this to light, awesome!

  • @Havalitoswe
    @Havalitoswe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow this is amazing and cudos to the researchers.

  • @RomanoPRODUCTION
    @RomanoPRODUCTION 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Michael and his legendary perseverance 💝

  • @unsilentzone3357
    @unsilentzone3357 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is absolutely the future. So incredible!!! Thank you everyone who has worked on this, because i look forward to someday owning a machine/software designed for this purpose!

  • @onesadtech
    @onesadtech 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is unreal! Stuff like this is what we need more of to push 3D printing into the next level! Thanks for sharing, and all the effort you put into this! 😁

  • @u3dprint527
    @u3dprint527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Super interesting! I think this process could be used for adding strength properties to prints to protect against different shear forces!

  • @siguie2355
    @siguie2355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very Cool! I run on an Ubuntu 18.04 machine and my Ender 3 is basically unmodified so this was an AWESOME project! Thank you so much for all your work! and as always Great Video !!!

  • @epsospremium6088
    @epsospremium6088 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great results. It's a huge progress step for the 3D printing at home.
    This *will benefit many people !* We can be happy about that.

  • @jonxor
    @jonxor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really glad you were honest about where you ran into issues, and problems that you didn't know how to solve. That's a real side of computers that people don't really see in videos.

  • @frantisekzverina473
    @frantisekzverina473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    TFW you need to learn to compile programs just to run one: "I don't need to understand what I'm doing I just need to follow the steps. There are five different sets of them. I ran into errors." Holy shit my sides, I had to laugh so much. This takes me back to my own tinkering with Linux....

    • @AA-gl1dr
      @AA-gl1dr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      František Zvěřina I live by that statement

    • @Quantris
      @Quantris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I knew he was doomed as soon as we were talking about compiling Boost on Windows...

  • @orcl01
    @orcl01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I would love to see how this technique would perform when printing of terrain tiles for tabletop gaming. They are great for player immersion but really suffer from stepping on the top surface. This could be perfect for them.

    • @PunakiviAddikti
      @PunakiviAddikti 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It would definitely help. Only problem is, you need to modify your printer and run a Linux machine. One thing you might wanna try is a Delta printer. The hot end can practically move freely in a 3D space, not limited by axis.

    • @protoborg
      @protoborg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      One way to fix the stepping issue is to lightly run a soldering iron over the plastic. Just have to make sure to not leave it in contact with any point for more than a half second. That will melt the surface just enough to allow it to fill in the gaps.

    • @JoeMakaFloe
      @JoeMakaFloe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@protoborg won't a heat gun do same thing?

    • @protoborg
      @protoborg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JoeMakaFloe The heat gun is too broad. It lacks the fine control of the soldering iron.

    • @abdulahad200
      @abdulahad200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@protoborg just print it sideways

  • @scotthuff4485
    @scotthuff4485 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you not have more subscribers?!? Your videos are incredibly insightful and practical. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with people who aspire to improve their 3D printing.

    • @jerbear7952
      @jerbear7952 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There aren't that many people deep diving in to 3d printing. For those that do, we all watch him. Also, a lot of people don't subscribe. They just watch and move on.

  • @Twin_Flyer
    @Twin_Flyer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    An amazing amount of work went into that video, thank you!! Definitely something to look forward to in the future!

  • @chase_h.01
    @chase_h.01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Would make pretty nice 1911 grips I'd imagine

  • @tinayoga8844
    @tinayoga8844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I had recently been thinking of this kind of technique. I had thought that this technique would be more easily implemented with a delta based 3D printer. So that the print head could be tilted.

    • @brba
      @brba 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey, that's a great idea!

    • @lordgort1986
      @lordgort1986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      you cant tilt the nozzle on a delta. the nozzle will always be parallel to the printbed

    • @Celcius1
      @Celcius1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it is very much doable, but is highly dependent on the Delta Design, my current delta prototype will actually do this, once i get the new board in, and some Titan Extruder spares. Cause the hot end hangs below the effector plate, with the magnetic arms on my printer giving a good range of movement the code can be adjusted to tilt the head. But it depends if slic3r can be adjusted to generate G-Code like this

    • @1kreature
      @1kreature 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lordgort1986 Wrong. With a parallel rod delta you can't but with a true delta you can.
      The HexaPod uses extending arms instead of delta towers but concept is the same. IN essence you need 2 motors on each of your 3 towers to give this ability.
      th-cam.com/video/G_UmhUjZhNo/w-d-xo.html

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordgort1986 You can with a 4 axis one instead of 3 axis.

  • @moodberry
    @moodberry 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You explained this VERY well. Congrats dude. I foresee a new era in 3D printers, AND an entrepreneur's opportunity galore

  • @matthewlind3102
    @matthewlind3102 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for putting this out. I had no idea people were working on this technology. This is amazing

  • @slingitsideways
    @slingitsideways 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love the idea of this and wouldn't mind giving it a go with my printer... BUT... Everything you said went in one ear and out the other, and still made my head hurt🤣🤣 Great video though!

  • @zanpekosak2383
    @zanpekosak2383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This looks amazing! I will have to try it out very soon. Clean the Z screw and modify the CR10S hotend to have a part cooling fan and a decent head cooling fan...will see what I can do and if I manage it I will share it on Thingiverse.

  • @kevinjimoh2921
    @kevinjimoh2921 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ridiculous wow! Thanks so much for putting in that effort for us and getting it set up. I will definitely be using this in the future!

  • @maxmairena6021
    @maxmairena6021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the video. That is totally true 3D printing. Thanks so much for teaching us and showing us the future of 3D printing. I am going to try this. I am not knowledgeable at all but I want to give it a try because this is the reason I started learning about 3D printing. Thank You 🙏🏼

  • @RVJimD
    @RVJimD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    It looks like this could greatly improve layer adhesion/strength? It looks to me like it helps to eliminate the grain issue that can cause strength problem.

    • @kenbad
      @kenbad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes!

  • @alanmorris8783
    @alanmorris8783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Excellent stuff. Modifying the shape of the heater block to more conical could give you better bang for the buck than altering the nozzle.

    • @truetech4158
      @truetech4158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Next to design a extruder mount that allows for the BLTouch to be easily adjusted off the side during such a method of printing. I am in awe and inspired by the print results shown in the presentation. Yes, excellent stuff for sure.

    • @CatCommando
      @CatCommando 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      no need for mods, the volcano knockoffs already have a smaller heaterblock rotated 90 degrees with all the wires coming out of the top, this makes the longer v6 nozzle itself the only thing for many milimeters. I am making a 3d pen with one for these same reasons, it allows much more clearance around the nozzle which would work well here as well as a tilting pen. amazon has 15 dollar all metal throat v6 knockoff kits which include normal and volcano blocks and many nozzles for both.

    • @abarasabwehttam
      @abarasabwehttam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CatCommando I agree with you a volcano heater block would solve this. I Also feel there is no need for a probe if the bed is set correctly. I havent leveled the bed on my machine in at least 9 months with flawless prints.

    • @stambo1983
      @stambo1983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The nozzle itself would still limit you. The details are in the thesis.

    • @BioToa7
      @BioToa7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So why not use a diamond hotend as it’s cone like already

  • @juancarloslopez688
    @juancarloslopez688 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing results and research done by you. Congratulations !!!

  • @divalea
    @divalea 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing work. My brain has a stitch in it from running to keep up, and still I’m wowing.

  • @FranklyPeetoons
    @FranklyPeetoons 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Multiple LIKES are in order. I can only give one, however. I've been waiting for something like this. FDM 3D printing promises so much more than it's delivered so far. This is the wave of the future.

  • @koolkevin2357
    @koolkevin2357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just, WOW! I know I am a bit late to this discussion as it is now Oct. of 2020 (It will be cool to see what has become of this!)
    I am over 60 and I hope I live long enough to see this come to EDU (Every Day Use). As I was watching, I already solved (possibly) the BL Touch problem, with a simple rod and spring that could be swung into, and then out of position on a mount that would relocate it vertically. Think of a small C channel on a hinge that holds a precision rod and spring for retraction.
    Or use a servo to hinge it out out the way when done. We are a very smart community of talented people. Just a matter of time and will.

  • @eagl3007
    @eagl3007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video and very informative. Thanks for going through the trouble of configuring this feature and condensing down the info for the rest of us.

  • @Litzwire
    @Litzwire 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that's quite a leap forward. Thanks for the heads up.

  • @rogerfroud300
    @rogerfroud300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This technique could still be useful on conventional printers as long as you could map the 3D geometry of the areas that could potentially collide and detect whether that would actually happen or not. You could then use it for those cases where you have shallow slopes.
    Another thought would be to combine the two techniques so that you only allow a certain restricted amount of non-planar printing, before having to complete everything to that planar level and then resuming non-planar printing. It's not ideal, but better than conventional printing.

  • @christopherpepin6059
    @christopherpepin6059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always find it funny how the first step to installing a nix program is so often, "Build a dedicated computer to run the computer."

  • @falkpatzold7736
    @falkpatzold7736 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this great exploration with stunning results - keep it up!

  • @TheUpwardSpiral
    @TheUpwardSpiral 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I have nothing that would benefit from this at the moment but I want to find something just to try it!

    • @Gromic2k
      @Gromic2k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is for flat earth 3d printing artists

  • @H0B0J03
    @H0B0J03 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    yussss I'm so glad I switched to linux this year

  • @patan77
    @patan77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing brother. Really huge difference, that's the future of 3d printers software set ups. They gonna have to redesign some stuff, but looking forward to printers coming out the box with this way of working.

  • @themeek351
    @themeek351 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! Thanks for working through all that for us! Your a trooper! I'm definitely going to try this!

  • @carbide1968
    @carbide1968 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are by far the hardest working you tuber. You are amazing Michael.

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Matthew. I did put a lot of time into the struggle with this one!

  • @twinkiefoshizle
    @twinkiefoshizle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    If you install the feature Linux subsystem you can install Ubuntu from the windows store. Easier than setting up VM

    • @KieranShort
      @KieranShort 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      slic3r has a gui, it's probably harder. slic3r linux uses perl-wxwidgets bindings so compiling might be non-simple, and I'm not sure how easily the slic3r display would export from the console via the x-server (which would need to be captured by something like Xming in Win10); but wxwidgets is GTK so it might work ok. Anyway, after all that, the VM is possibly/probably simpler.

    • @Motolav
      @Motolav 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      WSLv1 won't work without a lot of work.
      WSLv2(not out yet) is just a virtual machine which will work easily.

    • @grandaspanna
      @grandaspanna 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Motolav It does actually work, and quite well too. Hardest part was identifying all the dependencies on perl libraries and packages. I used VcXsrv (and mwm as window manager) on my Windows 10 laptop.

  • @markking3151
    @markking3151 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. I really enjoyed watching your video. To the point without any BS.

  • @David-ym2vk
    @David-ym2vk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. This is exactly what happens to me when I jump down a rabbit hole. Fantastic job! The results are excellent. I can't wait until the 3d printing manufacturers catch up and start implementing this non planar technology.

  • @RamClaw
    @RamClaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Well... Time to put heatsinks on my Z axis motors.

  • @jaycie5021
    @jaycie5021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I wonder how much this effects the strength of the part. Skilling it should make the part much less likly to suffer layer seperation durring stress.

    • @haraldhimmel5687
      @haraldhimmel5687 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Right. Might also be interesting for carbon fiber composites which arent really doing anything in between layers.

    • @Worrsaint
      @Worrsaint 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@haraldhimmel5687 if I recall it is called continuous strand composites (or something similiar). They generally wrap it around a foam core changing the wind angle as they go. It is how f35 nose cones are done. It is also how they do composite reinforced pressure vessels.

    • @MushVPeets
      @MushVPeets 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep! And if we went all the way and got print heads with tilt, you could make some ridiculously strong parts...

    • @slayyou
      @slayyou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MushVPeets couldn't you tilt a Delta's head?

    • @remotesailingpedroj
      @remotesailingpedroj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was exactly what I was thinking, extruding continuous strands of carbon fiber composites, can in theory, be achieved today with a delta printer. But slicing it looks like a nightmare.

  • @selfproclaimedengineer1617
    @selfproclaimedengineer1617 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your best video yet. I've finally subscribed.

  • @aion2177
    @aion2177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holly molly!! Superb results. Thank you for sharing 😊🤗

  • @3dPrintingMillennial
    @3dPrintingMillennial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    AMAZING! Can't wait until this becomes Cura 5.0😂

  • @theKashConnoisseur
    @theKashConnoisseur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Finally, a reason for SCARA printers to exist!

  • @boltactionpiano7365
    @boltactionpiano7365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an incredible video! So glad I got recommended this so I could discover your channel.

  • @samporter9785
    @samporter9785 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wanted to say a huge thanks for including thesis link.

  • @stevesloan6775
    @stevesloan6775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow that was a seriously interesting video. Bloody top work! 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼🍀🤓

  • @bluedeath996
    @bluedeath996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With kinematic leveling on printers like the ratrig could you revisit this? Where the bed tilts to make sure there isn't any contact with other parts and keeps the hotend perpendicular to the printing direction. it would also be interesting to see if you could print otherwise impossible features by tilting the bed so they are vertical.

    • @britewires4305
      @britewires4305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why the ratrig is the right choice right now

  • @mauritsvw
    @mauritsvw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting, and professionally and clearly presented as usual. Thanks!

  • @SimonKenyon
    @SimonKenyon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Impressive amount of work. Very well done.

  • @ScottClarke
    @ScottClarke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    FWIW, If you are running windows10 you can get pretty much a full version of Linix running by using the Windows Subsystem for Linux. I run Ubuntu on my machine and use it for work daily. The only limitation i have run into is that it does not support docker without HyperV that is part of windows 10 pro. You can find Windows Subsystem for Linux on the Windows Store.

    • @ScottClarke
      @ScottClarke 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kappa installing WSL is stupid simple, I can use both OS's at the same, sharing files between the 2 is also stupid simple, and i can still play all my games off steam without having to worry about compatibility or driver issues. Getting rid of windows would actually be a huge hassle for me.

  • @christophalexander4542
    @christophalexander4542 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Does it show my impatience when one of my first thoughts (after "holy cow that looks good!") was that this means you can print with a HUGE layer height and literally cover it all up later?
    That should speed up prints massively.

    • @JohnBackstrand
      @JohnBackstrand 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you can do that already though, but yes. Even better finish.

    • @Kycirion
      @Kycirion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want someone to figure out how to fixture something on the bed, edgefind, then print on the top surface, much like a CNC mill.

  • @Johncoffee2002
    @Johncoffee2002 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow - first class demonstration. Congratulations on this one. Awesome and simply stunning how you figured all out. Sure - thanks to the guys in Hamburg, I also saw their video. But you picked it up here in YT as the first. ‚Chapeau!‘

  • @awesomeink
    @awesomeink 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amazing job ! I will give this a try later this week !

  • @dankerine
    @dankerine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Ah yes, my favorite dimension, the half dimension

    • @lorenzo42p
      @lorenzo42p 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's like 5.1 surround sound. do I need 10 subs to have 6.0? I'll do it

    • @cozmo4694
      @cozmo4694 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The half axis

  • @ArcanePath360
    @ArcanePath360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is very wow factor. So simple an idea, but stupidly difficult to implement with all kinds of maths gymnastics going on.
    Can't wait for it to be an option in Cura. It is the future.

  • @charliehall9205
    @charliehall9205 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the spirit of invention is still alive. Full of admiration!

  • @scotthoffmaster4600
    @scotthoffmaster4600 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, Your one of the most intelligent 3d tech guys on youtube. . BUT that was next level stuff my brother! You still managed to pull it off in a stellar way! Cudos!

  • @lilypower
    @lilypower 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please please please try a litophane with this technique, it might be a really good way to make large flat lithopanes! I would like to try but my extremely old computer barely runs windows so don’t dare to try anything else on it! 😅

  • @seancarson551
    @seancarson551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Has there been any progress on this? I would love to be able to just dump a model into Cura or S3D and watch it go.

  • @NicksStuff
    @NicksStuff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was amazed at the first viral video and I'm so pleased one of the main channels has actually done it!
    The main issue I see from the video is the lack of part cooling, which can be solved easily, I reckon: add a pause just before the printing of the top layers and remove the fan shroud only then

    • @MrVelociraptor75
      @MrVelociraptor75 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      add a set of solenoids that automatically lift the fan assembly (and leveling sensor) out of the way ;) - I've seen it done for just the sensor, can't be that much harder to add that to the fan system. It would massively increase the weight of your print head though lol

  • @madcowrebel4216
    @madcowrebel4216 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is like switching from playing 80's arcade games to ps1. A massive improvement but still a ways to go. great video

  • @AlyssaNguyen
    @AlyssaNguyen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think I'm going to need to get the E3D SuperVolcano or something similarly absurdly long. 😁

    • @infernaldaedra
      @infernaldaedra 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the issue with the supervolcano is the angle to the heaterblock is lower than 45°