We have the strictest gun laws in the world and yet we have some of the highest violent crime rate with over 4000 weapons going "missing" from police stations every year. So hows that law working for us?
As someone who wants to get a weapon protect himself and his family this channel is very helpful 🤞 especially that it talks from South African perspective
@@dantakeoff unfortunately to people like me its a means of safety. Our requirements are different in this case as you might fall under section 15 and 16
Nice video, good advice. I am 63 ,still fit and strong. I carry a full size 9mm every day, all the time. Did my Military training and wore a Z88 every day. When you carry it is easy to see others that also carry and also the "new" guys stand out and are mostly easy to spot. Once your eye is in you see. They are constantly fiddling with the weapon under their clothing creating an easy target. They want people to know they have a weapon on them. Concealed carry means precisely that, concealed. Ego is a deadly force when you are armed. Back off, de-escalate, talk, reason, walk away, etc always bearing the consequences in mind. Most people who haven't been in a Firearm conflict situation will freeze and if they shoot they will mostly miss or injure the attacker. This will lead to a long legal journey and financially crippling time. There is no insurance for that. Think. When you apply common sense and training you will be a responsible gun owner. kind regards Subscribed
Was in a similar situation..... The suspect advanced at me in my own yard and I fired one shot in front of his feet after warning him several times that I was armed. Thereafter he dropped to the ground and the police collected him like 2 hours later. They were not very helpful nor did they return for a statement. The very next day I saw him on the street close to my workplace.
Great idea for useful content. It will be helpful to practically apply the law in a non-combat environment and avoid unnecessary mistakes when the need arises.
@@cornemare9223 I think it's good to think but it's also great to learn from experts. Using your logic this video is irrelevant because the information is available in textbooks.
@@rinathama No, in a situation where you have to think about defending your life you have to think for yourself, just because it was not shown in a video does not mean you should not do it, or do it because it was in a video
Crazy to think the police cant defend you but the government makes it as hard as possible to own a firearm legally for self defense. I strongly believe that the more well trained legal gun owners we have that there will be less crime and violence
To be honest, no police anywhere in the world can really protect you in most scenarios. Attacks happen within seconds. So the only way is to protect yourself and your family. And yes they do make it a very long and painstaking process to get a firearm. I’m currently doing my competency which is sitting on 171 days and still counting and I still need to do my licence which is also going to take a long time, before I am able to pick up my firearm.
@@TOKOLOSHE100 I agree with this! I think the process is well balanced because I also don't want it like in the USA where a random off the street can just buy a gun in a wallmart. I think our system is perfect though I do understand like home affairs there can be delays but if you do it through a quality outfit they can get you sorted in 6 months it's really great in my opinion and MOST everyone I talk to took around 6 months so it seems like the norm.
Furthermore I would take any bet that almost none of those folks ever saw their firearm again! The SAPS will use any opportunity, legal or not, to confiscate firearms from the law-abiding!
@@cathmar7394 i witnessed mob justice and a cop was there and when asked why he was not trying to break it up he said "and have them take my gun and shoot the guy, i am waiting for backup" the thief did not die and there was not wittness on the guys who beat him up.
One piece of advice. If you carry hollow point ammo. The police does not know that it is actually legal to have hollow point ammo in your firearm. They nearly arrested me once but a friend in the police told me that it is legal. Just know the law on ammo as well
The question is never "Can I shoot" It is always "Must I shoot" The mentality should be of a sort that you don't WANT to use your firearm but you will if you HAVE TO. As the presenter said, your firearm is a last resort. This video is great and clarifies a lot of urban myths and disinformation that us South Africans love so much.
Awesome video, I`ve only been carrying for 3 weeks now and it`s strange how my mindset has changed , I thought I would feel all powerful😂, quite the opposite honestly, I`m a calmer person and would hopefully never want to use it
This is REALLY appreciated man, AWESOME information to have. Can you do another and talk a bit around the concepts of warning shots? also shooting to disable (leg shots) vs shooting to kill? and the law around it? There is still a lot of fact vs. fiction around those topics out there and some clarity would be appreciated. Great video and really great public service too. Subbed!
Great video. Plain and simple. And if one apply this knowing to the old question of using a firearm which is on a Sporting Licence for self defence, the anwer is actually self explanatory
Really enjoying a South African perspective with firearm licensing etc etc. Recently received my Competency in Cape Town, took about 3 months. Great bunch of people in the SA Gun scene and excited to join this community.
This video has answered a LOT of questions I’ve had regarding self defence in South Africa and have had for a long long time. I would absolutely love to sit down with you and talk in depth about different scenarios and discuss the laws surrounding them because it’s critically important that law abiding citizens know their rights and what they’re able to do in response to threats from criminals.
Absolutely massive thanks for this video,you really gave a amazing explanation of both the legalities and the proper mindset,I was personally placed in similar situation a few month's ago where someone jumped over our gate,I saw it and ran out with a bow and arrow,pointed him and he just looked at me,I told him to run for his life because I also understood my life is not in danger,granted the understanding if he reached for a weapon it would be a very different outcome,thanks for the content and will be watching a lot more of your videos as I am a serios gun enthusiast and love people's individual understanding and comprehension of them,peace be with you ✌️
Thanks so much for watching and commenting😁 I am glad that you managed to handle that situation! Real word self defense and hypothetical internet stuff is very different😅
Thank you for this info, I am one of those who want to get a gun, but felt it pointless as I would get arrested when I needed to use it for self defense..
Great Video, I would like to know what happened to the guys lying on the floor? These guys can now crawl away stand up not facing you (in a non threading way) and walk away and attack someone that does not carry a gun. This is the biggest problem with our law, I know we do have citizen's arrest, but no one really knows how to properly execute a citizen's arrest without landing yourself in big trouble.
Exactly what I was thinking - a smart criminal would just get up and start walking away. I suppose it then all revolves around the conditions for enforcing any citizens arrest.
Very good question. I had a private security company on speed dial who responded super quickly and detained the suspects. You can indeed effect an arrest and use "necessary force" You are also correct in stating that you really have to know the law and tactics to do so.
Great video and summary of the law. I myself carry a firearm as self defence, as well as do sport shooting, giving a great form of firearm training and familiarising one with their firearm. Another question that seemed to be rising is the defence of life against a K-9, yes it seems simple to protect a pet. But say the person provokes the dog and the dog bites out of instinct, then the person attempts to kill the dog, would it be lawful to protect your k9 with lethal force?
Thanks for the comment! This is a very good question. Unfortunately animals are seen as property under South African law, so you would not be able to shoot in defense of a pet... You are however allowed to intervene in the assault or killing of a pet. If the perpetrator endangers your life in the process... all of a sudden you are shooting to defend your own life. I can't really say more than that at this point... But i think you get it. I think this may actually be a good topic for a video.
I live alone, several times I have found myself in very dangerous situations - my first question that went through my head - because of the initual investigation, your firearm are immediately confiscated, I WOULD for the 'unseen' time NOT BE ABLE TO DEFEND myself. Please don't buy a firearm and just leave it in your safe. Practice reguraly. If something happened, you have enabled your brain to trust your 'gut' : to shoot OR not to shoot.
Great example there at the end, you covered Excessive & Intensity force, which is the Proportionality force. 1. But would it be murder, if one of the guys would've gotten shot, I mean it's 3 guys, the time, distance between us would've been at play, and the knife is already a clear indication of harm that will be done? 2. If yes, would it be cause it would seem as if I am protecting my property(cellphone & wallet)?
Yay you posted 🥳. I have a really complicated ballistics question but let me ask this for now… why do we need ballistics expects or analysts if every illegal firearm was once legal and registered to either a person, business or whatever. Am I missing something? Please assist and let me know if I could ask the second question. Thanking you in advance. Love your content by the way. Joburg need’s y’all.
Thanks for your comment😁 1. Ballistics is useful when linking a firearm to multiple crime scenes. For example, I rob 2 shops and fire 3 rounds in each robbery. I am then caught with the firearm, which is sent for ballistics. This can place me at the scene of the two previous crimes. We have some pretty good technology, we are just inundated with crime. 2. Not all guns were once legal. Many guns are smuggled in cross border. 3. Every gun is not ballistically tested when it enters the country. Doing so would be physically impossible due to the sheer volume. For this reason, certain guns which are believed to be used in crime are tested for evidence in a particular case. 4. Some SAPS members further unnecessarily clog up the system with bureaucracy, like what is currently going on in PE with the whole Webb case. Please fire away with your 2nd question!😁
@@gunlicence amazing response 🤓. In the Senzo Case. The expect there says the might have been a malfunction in not so many words. It’s alleged a 9mm CZ75 was the firearm used. I was thinking if that’s the case. The crime scene should have had at least a used case for the first shot and a complete cartridge, my thinking, however they didn’t find a used cases and 2 to 3 shots were fired. It’s really confusing. I’m new to shooting, only just got my competency and very open to learning.
To add to Gun License's response: Serial numbers can quite easily be filed/scratched off, rendering a firearm illegal. Also, not every gun was registered to anyone/anything before. Some criminals can 3D print guns that have no serial numbers or any form of identification and can't be traced whatsoever.
If I get woken up by noises in my house in the middle of the night and go to investigate and find someone or someone's in my dark house. Do I wait to see a weapon on them light permitting? Do I wait for them to aim their weapon at me? Or do I assume that my life is in danger because there are people who have broken into my house? Do the unknowns work against me?
I'll answer your final question. Yes. Generally, you'd hope that there'd be laws in place to protect someone who defended their home in an invasion. Not in South Africa, lmao.
Good topic and video. People don't realise that any cops, from any country WILL sieze all weapons and arrest and probably charge anyone who shot anyone else. A bit 'guilty until proven innocent'; but that's Law EVERYWHERE. This is NOT the cops sending you to jail. They can't convict you. They are doing their job. In SA the 'holding" cells can be " life threatening" but that's a different issue. Maybe also explain the robbery, theft, GBH and tresspass laws as pertaining to firearms, please? Because that's where people Fkup, especially because they dont know how to defend their property or even know that they have solid rights to do so also. ie How does someone arrest someone else till the cops get there?
If you hold somebody til the cops come, you wil have kidnap case opened against you as they have the choice to open a case against you for that. You wil loose your weapons due to this.
Yes, trespassing as well, that should make for a good one. Because were do i stand that have my own property, were is my rights to defend it if some one trespasses. I get that if it is not live threatening, but i work hard for my home, i did not get it for free as some members of the population have it.
@AnthonyEverson_Rom8v28 This is a super frustrating topic as the government are constantly eroding your rights as a law abiding citizen. There was recently a new trespass act passed which embolden criminals. Maybe a good topic for a video.
I think the most difficult situation to be in is when someone pulls a realistic toy handgun on you and you have to determine the risk. It does happen here so its a serious problem. In the UK toy guns are banned.
This is almost impossible to do in a real word, split second scenario. Fortunately South African law classes an imitation firearm as a real firearm when used in a crime. The result is that if someone makes you think your life is in danger with a toy gun, you can use deadly force to defend yourself. The onus is not on you to ascertain if the gun is real. The onus is on the criminal not to commit the crime. There are plenty of real life cases where a criminal with a toy gun has been sent to the pearl gates (and denied access🤣) and the defender was not arrested or charged.
Getting my first gun,I had to learn fast that it was not for show as well as for walking around acting all big and macho but is to protect my family and property because we all know that in South Africa, crime can happen at anytime and anywhere. As citizens, we need to push back against this useless government that wants to take our right to protect ourselves and loved ones. Thank you for the amazing content.
Best informative video I've seen 👍🏽 However FG membership is a bit expensive. R245/pm is steep. Probably would've taken R80/pm since it's an insurance with a 50/50 chance of ending up in a jam.
Great video, I just stumbled on it and I have a question if you don't mind. I am a 27 year old male looking to obtain a gun license but have no experience what so ever, is there courses that I can take to get more comfortable around firearms and gain knowledge about the safety and law side without having a license or do you need to do the process of getting a license and a gun and then do the training required?
Thanks for watching!😁 There are shooting ranges that have firearm familiarization courses. If you are in the Cape Town area, our shooting range would definitely be able to assist. If you are keen on learning more about the technical and legal aspects of firearm ownership, doing your proficiency course is excellent value for money as you receive great training on various aspects of firearm ownership and use, plus you are one step closer to licensing a gun, if you ever should wish to in the future. Check out www.gunlicence.co.za for more info
Nice high level overview. Fleeing suspects was not addressed. Another thing that wasn't talked about was the responsibility of the firearm owner and every round they discharge. You gonna get in a heap of trouble if you do need to discharge your firearm and hit someone not involved in the incident. Down to proficiency and competency but worthwhile raising as part of the "is my life in immediate danger" discussion and the application of lethal force. Another topic that wasn't covered is weapon retention and the threat to life should someone make a go for your firearm, really tricky situation (especially if they are unarmed). As always, train hard, make good decisions and have good lawyers. The point of protecting your family at the cost of your own welfare is an important mind set. I am sure you cover the nuances of all this in your courses and training. If you own a firearm, train with your firearm. Dry fire, live fire, weapon retention etc. If you are not doing this I don't think you can be classed as a responsible firearm owner. The more training you do, the less mental capacity you require to operate the firearm which allows for a larger decision making capacity in a difficult situation.
This is good info but very high level. What if it's dark and you find 5 guys in your house inches away from you and you shoot, later to find out they were unarmed. Now what if it's only one guy. What if someone charges at you without a weapon. So many scenarios.
Very difficult to answer hypotheticals online... But If someone is in your house at night and they advance towards you, I would argue your life is in danger, regardless of visible weapons. Bruce Lee could probably kill me with his bare hands...
5 People in your home inches away from you is a very real threat. If they are facing you and there is no barrier between you and them I think the law of proportionality apply. Can one guy defend himself against 5 attackers? I think not. Can 5 guys beat you to death or cause very serious injuries. I think yes. Remember the question, " Do I fear for my safety or my families safety in this moment?" If the answer is yes do what you need to. That's my thought. If it's only one guy I think the following will matter. Is he armed. How far away from you is this person. After he notices you is he advancing or retreating? Is there a barrier between you and him. ext. Again the one question can make it simpler. Do I fear for my safety or someone else. If some one charges with a weapon it makes the choice very simple. He is a threat to you. So do what you need to do.
If my property is being stolen, then I have to replace it. I don't have the money and I need the car to work. So, without a job, i will die due to starving. Therefore, it is a threat to my life. 😂
This is a great question and one that we get a lot. I think possibly a topic for a video. Be sure to hit the notification bell so you don't miss it. In short, you can use any means to defend yourself, so she may not be charged in the actual defensive shooting.... however. If you allowed her access to your safe, you are guilty of an offence RE the FCA and may be declared unfit and lose your guns. She may be charged for unlawful possession of a firearm. Also, allowing ehr access to your gun without the proper legal and tactical training puts her at huuuge risk of shooting someone outside the confines of the law. The best solution is to get her competency and possibly get a dual licence on your gun.
@@HAMSOLO86 IMO it would depend on the circumstances. I would think that if you were carrying and becomes incapacitated for some reason, and your wife grabs the gun and shoots in defence, nothing really wrong with that. If you are not at home and your wife gains access to a safe where your weapons are, to defend herself, you will still be charged for not keeping your weapons safe. It could be argued that she could have gained access and committed selfdeath or even someone innocent. I know of such a case where a wife did that. Imo one should get dual licensing.
What about threat of severe bodily harm? There are many instances whereby somebody who is unarmed, hit a weaker or older person with the fist and caused death or brain injury. There was a case in SA a year or two ago whereby a bouncer hit someone in a parking lot and the victim died. Could the victim have shot the guy if he walked up to him unprovoked?
Been living in the UK for 17 years. Just started this video, and depending on the results, it will determine whether I move home or not. I will not set foot in that country again unless I can defend myself, I still have PTSD..
With respect to the "imminent danger" clause, considering the 1st 2 conditions have been confirmed. Will it then be lawful to defend yourself from the drop i.e the attacker advances with a F.A drawn towards me? Or do I wait till he starts shooting or closes the gap?
Thats some helpful advice right there...One question though, does your firearm get temporarily/permanently confiscated after shooting someone? Because if it does and you dont get arrested then you are left without a means of defense either permanently or temporarily.
Your gun will be taken for ballistics and most likely held until the case is finalized. This is one reason we are advocates of having multiple firearms, so that you can always protect yourself💪
SAPS will certainly take your firearm used in a shooting - and they will take any other firearms and ammo licenced to you. I speak from hard-won experience after a non-shooting, non-brandishing incident of merely an argument reported to police where use of firearms was never threatened/mentioned or ever left the gunsafe! Believe it or not but SAPS are determined to break laws in order to confiscate as many legal firearms as they possibly can - any excuse will do.
I am a prosecutor and I must say, this guy has set out the position very well and if you stick to his advice, you will be fine in terms of the law. Self defence with a firearm is the same as with any other weapon. The force or means used, must be justified by the threat. The court will examine closely whether deadly force was justified and you must be able to show that it was. It doesn't mean the defence must be on exactly the same level as the attack (E.g. if you are attacked with a knife or a pick handle or something, you can use your firearm to defend yourself, as long as the attack on you or someone else is unlawful, immenent and life threatening).
Stupid question but is it illegal to carry in all firearm free zones? My workplace prevents me from carrying everyday as it is a firearm free zone, it is however not in the best area so I would ideally prefer to carry and I would prefer to make it a habit to carry everyday ...
@@rubenmuller9533 I am not sure if you are asking about the situation in South Africa, or if you are asking from another country like the USA. But in South Africa, it isn't illegal (with that I mean it isn't illegal in terms of the Firearms Control Act) to carry your licensed firearm in a place which calls itself "gun free", however right of admission may be reserved on any private premises, and if a place states that it is "gun free", then they can lawfully deny you entry based on the protected right they have to reserve entry only for those who comply with the rules of admission of the specific premises. In South Africa, unlike in America, there is no constitutional right to carry a firearm, so you cannot claim such a right when entering premises.
@@antonburger01 thanks for the info. I am in South Africa. Does this even include government institutions such as a state hospital? Or is that only private companies that declare their premises a gun free zone?
@@rubenmuller9533 Such premises are still private premises in that admission may be reserved subject to terms of access. Government buildings are not automatically also public buildings, and don't automatically allow unrestrained access to all or even much of it. For instance, in a police station, or hospital, or ministerial offices, there are certain parts that the public is allowed and other parts where the public is not allowed. That demonstrates the right of even government buildings to determine access terms and such terms can include the refusal of firearms. There are very few places where there wouldn't be any right of the managing entity to determine certain terms of access. I cannot think of one, actually. Even public parks have rules that can be legally enforced by the municipality, such as "no dogs", etc. The big thing is the nature of the right. Where you have a constitutional right to something, e.g. right to religion, you can typically not be denied access because you belong to a certain religion. But the South African constitution does not provide a constitutional right to carry a firearm, so therefore any place that does not allow you in because you have a firearm, may be entitled to do so, without infringing on your rights. BUT I need to state that I am a prosecutor, not a constitutional law expert. I form the above opinion based on my limited knowledge of the law on those aspects.
I have been looking to get a firearm because criminals these days are so well armed. I have been a victim a few times and it was the worst being unable to protect my family. Than you for this information brings much clarity 🙏
What you are saying is as a 75 yr old a guy walk into my house no weapons and start to take my stuff away i should let him carry on, phone the police who us 20 mins away but they got no transport. Because of my age i connot stop this young strong man from stealing my stuff
This is a difficult one to answer in text as there are so many variables in a real situation. You can use reasonable force to affect an arrest. If in doing so, the suspect threatens your life... now you are shooting to save your life, not your tv.
@@Paulibelieveyou pay for there services just like you are being taxed that is paying for services from the SAP. Even security companies have to follow the same laws a the people. A burglar alarm system is an early warning system and now in SA criminals don't care about that as they also know that all security companies are understaffed and the reaction officers are 90% of the time not properly trained.
@@sienervanrensburg6644 As a reaction officer with 16 years experience I guarantee you that an alarm system is an effective method to prevent criminal from clearing out the house. When the boundary alarm is triggered criminals haven't even entered the house at that point and only have a mere 6min to break in to the building, select the goods AND be a significant distance away from the scene before we standof. In many cases they either leave some of the loot or flee the scene with nothing.. Most companies have multiple vehicles working one shift and with 2way radio communication we are effective in most cases to stop them getting away with most of the stolen goods. Our goals are property protection and not apprehending of the criminals. We respond to non-client phone calls of suspicious vehicles, persons and barking dogs without charging them a cent. As a minimum standard reaction officers qualifications consist of a security C grade + an armed response course and firearm compitency. Some of us have tactical training and house penetration qualifications. BUT It is important to do some home work before selecting the security company you will use. The private cecurity industry out numbers the SA police force by far.
I have a question regarding a hypothetical situation. Say for instance, you are stuck in traffic, and hijackers (2, one from either side) attempt to threaten you with a brick/knife by tapping the window/making a stance to throw it at the window to break it. Would the window/door be seen as a barrier which needs to be broken before deadly force is justified, or would it be justified in such circumstances, where there is no means of escape, to use deadly force immediately?
Good question, while each situation has its own merits and nuances. You would more than likely be justified to pull a gun if you are actively engaged in an act of violence. I would personally wait for the barrier to be attacked before shooting, however the nuances of the situation would dictate. Remember to ask "When must I shoot" and not "when can I shoot".
I think that's a great question! If someone is threatening you throw a brick at you, being inside a car is not going to save you. What can you do if you have a firearm?
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Thanks so much for this Jaeden😁👍
It really helps the channel!
“Guns and ego don’t mix” well said.
Neither do guns and alcohol.
Tell this to a large fraction of the American population.
We have the strictest gun laws in the world and yet we have some of the highest violent crime rate with over 4000 weapons going "missing" from police stations every year. So hows that law working for us?
As someone who wants to get a weapon protect himself and his family this channel is very helpful 🤞 especially that it talks from South African perspective
So glad you find value in the content😁
Getting a gun out of fear is a terrible thing... Lay off the fear-porn and think of it as a tool.
@@dantakeoff What could be any other reason to get a fire arm if not out of fear?
@@tbangbangsa I have a farm. To people like myself, a gun is simply a multi-purpose tool. And also a toy to have fun with.
@@dantakeoff unfortunately to people like me its a means of safety. Our requirements are different in this case as you might fall under section 15 and 16
Nice video, good advice.
I am 63 ,still fit and strong. I carry a full size 9mm every day, all the time.
Did my Military training and wore a Z88 every day.
When you carry it is easy to see others that also carry and also the "new" guys stand out and are mostly easy to spot. Once your eye is in you see.
They are constantly fiddling with the weapon under their clothing creating an easy target. They want people to know they have a weapon on them. Concealed carry means precisely that, concealed.
Ego is a deadly force when you are armed.
Back off, de-escalate, talk, reason, walk away, etc always bearing the consequences in mind.
Most people who haven't been in a Firearm conflict situation will freeze and if they shoot they will mostly miss or injure the attacker. This will lead to a long legal journey and financially crippling time. There is no insurance for that. Think.
When you apply common sense and training you will be a responsible gun owner.
kind regards
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Couldn't have said any better.
Thanks for the comment. There actually is now legal insurance for just this occasion - firearmsguardian.co.za/join/
What a chad 🗿👑
So is a Z88 your everyday carry?
@@Lesiba88 The Z88 would have been his standard-issue sidearm when he was in the military, like he said.
Was in a similar situation..... The suspect advanced at me in my own yard and I fired one shot in front of his feet after warning him several times that I was armed. Thereafter he dropped to the ground and the police collected him like 2 hours later. They were not very helpful nor did they return for a statement. The very next day I saw him on the street close to my workplace.
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You should review violence videos of crimes in south africa and tell us where to shoot and not shoot
Learn the law and think for yourself
Great idea for useful content. It will be helpful to practically apply the law in a non-combat environment and avoid unnecessary mistakes when the need arises.
That could cause a dilemma.
@@cornemare9223 I think it's good to think but it's also great to learn from experts.
Using your logic this video is irrelevant because the information is available in textbooks.
@@rinathama No, in a situation where you have to think about defending your life you have to think for yourself, just because it was not shown in a video does not mean you should not do it, or do it because it was in a video
Crazy to think the police cant defend you but the government makes it as hard as possible to own a firearm legally for self defense.
I strongly believe that the more well trained legal gun owners we have that there will be less crime and violence
To be honest, no police anywhere in the world can really protect you in most scenarios. Attacks happen within seconds. So the only way is to protect yourself and your family. And yes they do make it a very long and painstaking process to get a firearm. I’m currently doing my competency which is sitting on 171 days and still counting and I still need to do my licence which is also going to take a long time, before I am able to pick up my firearm.
Been waiting 3years for licence after going through all the trouble☹️
It is not that hard, process took me 6 months and was no more difficult than a learner drivers license.
@@TOKOLOSHE100 damn I don’t know who you paid but I need your contact. I’ve been waiting 173 days just for my competency so far and still waiting. 😂😂
@@TOKOLOSHE100 I agree with this! I think the process is well balanced because I also don't want it like in the USA where a random off the street can just buy a gun in a wallmart. I think our system is perfect though I do understand like home affairs there can be delays but if you do it through a quality outfit they can get you sorted in 6 months it's really great in my opinion and MOST everyone I talk to took around 6 months so it seems like the norm.
of course you can, just don't let anyone find out
Inane statement....look it up
The problem is that 95% of SAPS don't know the law themselves. Many stories of people whom got locked up after defending themselves.
This is why knowing the law yourself and getting legal backing is so important.
Furthermore I would take any bet that almost none of those folks ever saw their firearm again! The SAPS will use any opportunity, legal or not, to confiscate firearms from the law-abiding!
You couldn't have said it better 😂😂😂
@@stewartw.9151 Why would they do that?
@@MarkoVukovic0corruption most likely some of the biggest illegal arms traders in the country are SAPS officers themselves
Great and informative video. Pleasssssse we need more South African gun content including gun reviews. Keep them coming!
Thanks for the comment!
I think a few gun reviews are in order.
"Can you Shoot Someone in South Africa?"
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The fact that this is funny is so sad if you think about it. But hey that's the reality of it.
Made you look😅
Yes if you are a criminal its okay, but if you defend yourself you get arrested 🥲
Man in KZN it's an ordinary activity 😅
It REALLY SUCKS that we have no right to protect our property.
you have right to do so just can not take away there right to live
Yet mob justice is difficult to police
@@cathmar7394 i witnessed mob justice and a cop was there and when asked why he was not trying to break it up he said "and have them take my gun and shoot the guy, i am waiting for backup" the thief did not die and there was not wittness on the guys who beat him up.
Life is messy. Many communities are so fed up with crime all they can do is resort to mob justice.
@@Andrewza1 BS. What are you going to do? Ask them to pretty please with sugar on top put down your stuff and leave your property?
This video is by far the best one on explaining when and where to use your firearm
Thanks😁
One piece of advice. If you carry hollow point ammo. The police does not know that it is actually legal to have hollow point ammo in your firearm. They nearly arrested me once but a friend in the police told me that it is legal. Just know the law on ammo as well
The question is never "Can I shoot" It is always "Must I shoot" The mentality should be of a sort that you don't WANT to use your firearm but you will if you HAVE TO. As the presenter said, your firearm is a last resort.
This video is great and clarifies a lot of urban myths and disinformation that us South Africans love so much.
Fantastic Video Mark, love how passionate you are about what you do and how well informed you are, thank you for sharing with us.
Thanks bro😁
Really appreciate the comment!
Hope you are doing well!
Very informative our country is no more safe anymore.
Awesome video, I`ve only been carrying for 3 weeks now and it`s strange how my mindset has changed , I thought I would feel all powerful😂, quite the opposite honestly, I`m a calmer person and would hopefully never want to use it
Congrats on getting your licence!
I know what you mean about becoming calmer.
Thank you for taking the time to produce this video.
So gun owners in SA actually know the law! Im glad for this video explaining the basics to the gun owners
This is REALLY appreciated man, AWESOME information to have. Can you do another and talk a bit around the concepts of warning shots? also shooting to disable (leg shots) vs shooting to kill? and the law around it? There is still a lot of fact vs. fiction around those topics out there and some clarity would be appreciated. Great video and really great public service too. Subbed!
Thank you for unpacking the misconception.
Thanks for watching😁
Great video. Plain and simple. And if one apply this knowing to the old question of using a firearm which is on a Sporting Licence for self defence, the anwer is actually self explanatory
Thanks for the comment😁
Really enjoying a South African perspective with firearm licensing etc etc. Recently received my Competency in Cape Town, took about 3 months. Great bunch of people in the SA Gun scene and excited to join this community.
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Thanks so much for the comment! Welcome to to the SA gun community!😁
Thanks so much for your info and support!
Brilliant video, this is the perfect message to share with a my friend who only recently received his Section13 license
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
Situational awareness is key in self defence
100%
So many rules yoh🥲
Great video! Well done, Boet!
Yes. Depends on self-defense situation.....is my guess before viewing...
You are correct😁
The firearms control act is a crime against humanity.
It is indeed very limiting. The implementation of the Act also isn't great.
Agree 100%. Criminals have all the rights in this country and law abiding citizens are not protected by the state
This video has answered a LOT of questions I’ve had regarding self defence in South Africa and have had for a long long time. I would absolutely love to sit down with you and talk in depth about different scenarios and discuss the laws surrounding them because it’s critically important that law abiding citizens know their rights and what they’re able to do in response to threats from criminals.
Super glad you find the content helpful😁
You should join one of our workshops. We always have in depth scenario based conversations.
This channel is worth subscribing to. Thank you so much sir.
Just found this channel and subbed. Brilliant explanation and I appreciate humour
Absolutely massive thanks for this video,you really gave a amazing explanation of both the legalities and the proper mindset,I was personally placed in similar situation a few month's ago where someone jumped over our gate,I saw it and ran out with a bow and arrow,pointed him and he just looked at me,I told him to run for his life because I also understood my life is not in danger,granted the understanding if he reached for a weapon it would be a very different outcome,thanks for the content and will be watching a lot more of your videos as I am a serios gun enthusiast and love people's individual understanding and comprehension of them,peace be with you ✌️
Thanks so much for watching and commenting😁
I am glad that you managed to handle that situation!
Real word self defense and hypothetical internet stuff is very different😅
Thank you for this info, I am one of those who want to get a gun, but felt it pointless as I would get arrested when I needed to use it for self defense..
Thanks so much for watching😁
So glad we could help bust the myth.
Great Video,
I would like to know what happened to the guys lying on the floor? These guys can now crawl away stand up not facing you (in a non threading way) and walk away and attack someone that does not carry a gun. This is the biggest problem with our law, I know we do have citizen's arrest, but no one really knows how to properly execute a citizen's arrest without landing yourself in big trouble.
Exactly what I was thinking - a smart criminal would just get up and start walking away. I suppose it then all revolves around the conditions for enforcing any citizens arrest.
Very good question. I had a private security company on speed dial who responded super quickly and detained the suspects.
You can indeed effect an arrest and use "necessary force"
You are also correct in stating that you really have to know the law and tactics to do so.
Great video and summary of the law. I myself carry a firearm as self defence, as well as do sport shooting, giving a great form of firearm training and familiarising one with their firearm.
Another question that seemed to be rising is the defence of life against a K-9, yes it seems simple to protect a pet. But say the person provokes the dog and the dog bites out of instinct, then the person attempts to kill the dog, would it be lawful to protect your k9 with lethal force?
Thanks for the comment!
This is a very good question.
Unfortunately animals are seen as property under South African law, so you would not be able to shoot in defense of a pet...
You are however allowed to intervene in the assault or killing of a pet. If the perpetrator endangers your life in the process... all of a sudden you are shooting to defend your own life.
I can't really say more than that at this point... But i think you get it.
I think this may actually be a good topic for a video.
Thank you for this upload, you answered a lot of my questions.
Clear and very well explained.
Thanks.
Great video Mark. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the kind words😁🙏
Excellent video on the mindset and especially in a South African context
I didn’t know I needed this information. Thank you
Great video cousin! Very informative.
Thanks for the comment!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Glad I came across this channel.
Just came across your content...I'm a new subscriber and I'm definitely loving your content 💯
Thanks so much😁
Very good video. Thank you. And good luck with your channel chom.
I live alone, several times I have found myself in very dangerous situations - my first question that went through my head - because of the initual investigation, your firearm are immediately confiscated, I WOULD for the 'unseen' time NOT BE ABLE TO DEFEND myself.
Please don't buy a firearm and just leave it in your safe. Practice reguraly. If something happened, you have enabled your brain to trust your 'gut' : to shoot OR not to shoot.
Nice description of the law and great descriptions of scenarios.
great knowledge for those who knows nothing about gun laws in this country,well put video.
My parents both got shot and killed on our farm for no reason.. guys got 2 years then out on parole.. some are allowed to kill
WTF😢
I'm so sorry to hear this. We have a terrible problem in this country and a failing justice system.
cadres...
You should make you tube videos reviewing crime incidents in South Africa like that other guy from America giving tips and advice
This is definitely on the cards!
Criminals do it every day. They just don't call the police to tell them.
Great example there at the end, you covered Excessive & Intensity force, which is the Proportionality force.
1. But would it be murder, if one of the guys would've gotten shot, I mean it's 3 guys, the time, distance between us would've been at play, and the knife is already a clear indication of harm that will be done?
2. If yes, would it be cause it would seem as if I am protecting my property(cellphone & wallet)?
Yay you posted 🥳. I have a really complicated ballistics question but let me ask this for now… why do we need ballistics expects or analysts if every illegal firearm was once legal and registered to either a person, business or whatever. Am I missing something? Please assist and let me know if I could ask the second question. Thanking you in advance.
Love your content by the way. Joburg need’s y’all.
Thanks for your comment😁
1. Ballistics is useful when linking a firearm to multiple crime scenes. For example, I rob 2 shops and fire 3 rounds in each robbery. I am then caught with the firearm, which is sent for ballistics. This can place me at the scene of the two previous crimes. We have some pretty good technology, we are just inundated with crime.
2. Not all guns were once legal. Many guns are smuggled in cross border.
3. Every gun is not ballistically tested when it enters the country. Doing so would be physically impossible due to the sheer volume. For this reason, certain guns which are believed to be used in crime are tested for evidence in a particular case.
4. Some SAPS members further unnecessarily clog up the system with bureaucracy, like what is currently going on in PE with the whole Webb case.
Please fire away with your 2nd question!😁
@@gunlicence amazing response 🤓. In the Senzo Case. The expect there says the might have been a malfunction in not so many words. It’s alleged a 9mm CZ75 was the firearm used. I was thinking if that’s the case.
The crime scene should have had at least a used case for the first shot and a complete cartridge, my thinking, however they didn’t find a used cases and 2 to 3 shots were fired. It’s really confusing.
I’m new to shooting, only just got my competency and very open to learning.
@@MojalefaMasophaYou mean "expert" ?
@@DN-kz7xl yeah typo. Thanx 🫡
To add to Gun License's response:
Serial numbers can quite easily be filed/scratched off, rendering a firearm illegal.
Also, not every gun was registered to anyone/anything before.
Some criminals can 3D print guns that have no serial numbers or any form of identification and can't be traced whatsoever.
Awesome video 🤞🏼🔥
If I get woken up by noises in my house in the middle of the night and go to investigate and find someone or someone's in my dark house. Do I wait to see a weapon on them light permitting? Do I wait for them to aim their weapon at me? Or do I assume that my life is in danger because there are people who have broken into my house? Do the unknowns work against me?
You shouldn’t own a firearm!!
@@o.c2231🤣🤣
@@o.c2231 Why not?
@corinroux3597 Because Y does not have a knot
I'll answer your final question. Yes.
Generally, you'd hope that there'd be laws in place to protect someone who defended their home in an invasion. Not in South Africa, lmao.
Thank you. Nice and simple to understand.
Thanks for watching!
An informative content indeed. Thank you for this.
subbed great content keep them informative videos coming🙌💪
Thanks so much for watching and commenting😁
Thanks for the video Mark💪🏽🎯💯
Thanks for the comment😁🙏
Good and clear info. Awesome. !
Awesome advise thanks man keep it up.
Thanks so much for the comment!😁
Soon to be legal gun owner here.
Excellent content. We need more of these.
Subbed!
Thanks so much😁 Glad you found value in watching!
Which firearms are you buying?
Very informative, danko!
Thanks for watching😁
Well explained bro thank you🙏🙏
Thanks for watching😁
beautifully explained 👏 👌
good video. you are well spoken.
Thanks for the comment!
I'm getting a firearm soon. Great video & useful info, thanks💪
Thanks for watching😁
Massive congrats on your firearm!
Good topic and video. People don't realise that any cops, from any country WILL sieze all weapons and arrest and probably charge anyone who shot anyone else. A bit 'guilty until proven innocent'; but that's Law EVERYWHERE. This is NOT the cops sending you to jail. They can't convict you. They are doing their job. In SA the 'holding" cells can be " life threatening" but that's a different issue. Maybe also explain the robbery, theft, GBH and tresspass laws as pertaining to firearms, please? Because that's where people Fkup, especially because they dont know how to defend their property or even know that they have solid rights to do so also. ie How does someone arrest someone else till the cops get there?
If you hold somebody til the cops come, you wil have kidnap case opened against you as they have the choice to open a case against you for that.
You wil loose your weapons due to this.
Yes, trespassing as well, that should make for a good one. Because were do i stand that have my own property, were is my rights to defend it if some one trespasses. I get that if it is not live threatening, but i work hard for my home, i did not get it for free as some members of the population have it.
This is a good idea for a video👍
@AnthonyEverson_Rom8v28 This is a super frustrating topic as the government are constantly eroding your rights as a law abiding citizen.
There was recently a new trespass act passed which embolden criminals.
Maybe a good topic for a video.
Great content and very informative. Thank you Mark.
Thanks Leon😁
I think the most difficult situation to be in is when someone pulls a realistic toy handgun on you and you have to determine the risk.
It does happen here so its a serious problem.
In the UK toy guns are banned.
This is almost impossible to do in a real word, split second scenario.
Fortunately South African law classes an imitation firearm as a real firearm when used in a crime.
The result is that if someone makes you think your life is in danger with a toy gun, you can use deadly force to defend yourself. The onus is not on you to ascertain if the gun is real. The onus is on the criminal not to commit the crime.
There are plenty of real life cases where a criminal with a toy gun has been sent to the pearl gates (and denied access🤣) and the defender was not arrested or charged.
Excellent content/knowledge/advice.
Thanks for the comment!
Getting my first gun,I had to learn fast that it was not for show as well as for walking around acting all big and macho but is to protect my family and property because we all know that in South Africa, crime can happen at anytime and anywhere. As citizens, we need to push back against this useless government that wants to take our right to protect ourselves and loved ones. Thank you for the amazing content.
They must change the laws, too. STAND YOU'RE GROUND
Then have your children sh**t their peers in school.
Yessss
That won't happen. The anti christ rule the country with 20 body guards 24/7
Consider putting the "thanks" feature so that we can donate mate
Thanks for the comment😁
We have literally just hit monetization eligibility and are busy figuring it out.
Took your advice and went through the process of adding the features. Thanks!
Very informative, presented well !
Best informative video I've seen 👍🏽 However FG membership is a bit expensive. R245/pm is steep. Probably would've taken R80/pm since it's an insurance with a 50/50 chance of ending up in a jam.
Great video, I just stumbled on it and I have a question if you don't mind. I am a 27 year old male looking to obtain a gun license but have no experience what so ever, is there courses that I can take to get more comfortable around firearms and gain knowledge about the safety and law side without having a license or do you need to do the process of getting a license and a gun and then do the training required?
Thanks for watching!😁
There are shooting ranges that have firearm familiarization courses.
If you are in the Cape Town area, our shooting range would definitely be able to assist.
If you are keen on learning more about the technical and legal aspects of firearm ownership, doing your proficiency course is excellent value for money as you receive great training on various aspects of firearm ownership and use, plus you are one step closer to licensing a gun, if you ever should wish to in the future.
Check out www.gunlicence.co.za for more info
I think there are courses before owning the licence
Nice high level overview. Fleeing suspects was not addressed. Another thing that wasn't talked about was the responsibility of the firearm owner and every round they discharge. You gonna get in a heap of trouble if you do need to discharge your firearm and hit someone not involved in the incident. Down to proficiency and competency but worthwhile raising as part of the "is my life in immediate danger" discussion and the application of lethal force. Another topic that wasn't covered is weapon retention and the threat to life should someone make a go for your firearm, really tricky situation (especially if they are unarmed). As always, train hard, make good decisions and have good lawyers. The point of protecting your family at the cost of your own welfare is an important mind set. I am sure you cover the nuances of all this in your courses and training. If you own a firearm, train with your firearm. Dry fire, live fire, weapon retention etc. If you are not doing this I don't think you can be classed as a responsible firearm owner. The more training you do, the less mental capacity you require to operate the firearm which allows for a larger decision making capacity in a difficult situation.
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Make a video about warning shots PLEASE
We will definitely be doing this. Make sure to subscribe and click the notification bell.
There is no requirement under law for a warning shot and it is probably in many circumstances unwise.
Very good video.🙌
Best Channel
Thanks for the kind words😁
This is good info but very high level. What if it's dark and you find 5 guys in your house inches away from you and you shoot, later to find out they were unarmed. Now what if it's only one guy. What if someone charges at you without a weapon. So many scenarios.
Very difficult to answer hypotheticals online... But If someone is in your house at night and they advance towards you, I would argue your life is in danger, regardless of visible weapons.
Bruce Lee could probably kill me with his bare hands...
5 People in your home inches away from you is a very real threat. If they are facing you and there is no barrier between you and them I think the law of proportionality apply. Can one guy defend himself against 5 attackers? I think not. Can 5 guys beat you to death or cause very serious injuries. I think yes. Remember the question, " Do I fear for my safety or my families safety in this moment?" If the answer is yes do what you need to. That's my thought. If it's only one guy I think the following will matter. Is he armed. How far away from you is this person. After he notices you is he advancing or retreating? Is there a barrier between you and him. ext. Again the one question can make it simpler. Do I fear for my safety or someone else. If some one charges with a weapon it makes the choice very simple. He is a threat to you. So do what you need to do.
😂😂😂😂@@gunlicence
Awesome channel!!!
what if you getting attacked by a person without a weapon, can you shoot to stop the attack?
instructions unclear im now in jail and facing death penalty
@08:05 there must be a threat to life, not property !....I have a problem with that 😅
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@@nicolasmagalhaes3183 not "THE greatest constitution in the world" now is it? 😕
@@ndumisomhlongo7711 I have to agree with you bud.
If my property is being stolen, then I have to replace it. I don't have the money and I need the car to work. So, without a job, i will die due to starving. Therefore, it is a threat to my life. 😂
@@rhonwengreyling7935 I immediately thought threat to property can lead to threat of life in some circumstances
Quick question, if I am unable to get to my firearm and my wife get hold of the firearm and shoots the person, what's the consequences?
This is a great question and one that we get a lot.
I think possibly a topic for a video. Be sure to hit the notification bell so you don't miss it.
In short, you can use any means to defend yourself, so she may not be charged in the actual defensive shooting.... however.
If you allowed her access to your safe, you are guilty of an offence RE the FCA and may be declared unfit and lose your guns.
She may be charged for unlawful possession of a firearm.
Also, allowing ehr access to your gun without the proper legal and tactical training puts her at huuuge risk of shooting someone outside the confines of the law.
The best solution is to get her competency and possibly get a dual licence on your gun.
@@HAMSOLO86 IMO it would depend on the circumstances. I would think that if you were carrying and becomes incapacitated for some reason, and your wife grabs the gun and shoots in defence, nothing really wrong with that. If you are not at home and your wife gains access to a safe where your weapons are, to defend herself, you will still be charged for not keeping your weapons safe. It could be argued that she could have gained access and committed selfdeath or even someone innocent. I know of such a case where a wife did that. Imo one should get dual licensing.
What about threat of severe bodily harm? There are many instances whereby somebody who is unarmed, hit a weaker or older person with the fist and caused death or brain injury. There was a case in SA a year or two ago whereby a bouncer hit someone in a parking lot and the victim died. Could the victim have shot the guy if he walked up to him unprovoked?
As long as you fear for your live and can prove in court that the other guys wanted to kill you and had the means to kill you ok.
Been living in the UK for 17 years.
Just started this video, and depending on the results, it will determine whether I move home or not.
I will not set foot in that country again unless I can defend myself, I still have PTSD..
With respect to the "imminent danger" clause, considering the 1st 2 conditions have been confirmed. Will it then be lawful to defend yourself from the drop i.e the attacker advances with a F.A drawn towards me? Or do I wait till he starts shooting or closes the gap?
Thats some helpful advice right there...One question though, does your firearm get temporarily/permanently confiscated after shooting someone? Because if it does and you dont get arrested then you are left without a means of defense either permanently or temporarily.
Your gun will be taken for ballistics and most likely held until the case is finalized.
This is one reason we are advocates of having multiple firearms, so that you can always protect yourself💪
@@gunlicence While the case is being finalized, are you able to apply for a replacement firearm? Or are you temporarily blacklisted?
@@StephenHampton_DesignDesk Best to have one BEFORE that time arises - a concealed carry and a home defense weapon as well.
SAPS will certainly take your firearm used in a shooting - and they will take any other firearms and ammo licenced to you. I speak from hard-won experience after a non-shooting, non-brandishing incident of merely an argument reported to police where use of firearms was never threatened/mentioned or ever left the gunsafe! Believe it or not but SAPS are determined to break laws in order to confiscate as many legal firearms as they possibly can - any excuse will do.
Great comment. Guns and ego do not mix.
I am a prosecutor and I must say, this guy has set out the position very well and if you stick to his advice, you will be fine in terms of the law. Self defence with a firearm is the same as with any other weapon. The force or means used, must be justified by the threat. The court will examine closely whether deadly force was justified and you must be able to show that it was. It doesn't mean the defence must be on exactly the same level as the attack (E.g. if you are attacked with a knife or a pick handle or something, you can use your firearm to defend yourself, as long as the attack on you or someone else is unlawful, immenent and life threatening).
Stupid question but is it illegal to carry in all firearm free zones? My workplace prevents me from carrying everyday as it is a firearm free zone, it is however not in the best area so I would ideally prefer to carry and I would prefer to make it a habit to carry everyday ...
@@rubenmuller9533 I am not sure if you are asking about the situation in South Africa, or if you are asking from another country like the USA. But in South Africa, it isn't illegal (with that I mean it isn't illegal in terms of the Firearms Control Act) to carry your licensed firearm in a place which calls itself "gun free", however right of admission may be reserved on any private premises, and if a place states that it is "gun free", then they can lawfully deny you entry based on the protected right they have to reserve entry only for those who comply with the rules of admission of the specific premises. In South Africa, unlike in America, there is no constitutional right to carry a firearm, so you cannot claim such a right when entering premises.
@@antonburger01 thanks for the info. I am in South Africa.
Does this even include government institutions such as a state hospital?
Or is that only private companies that declare their premises a gun free zone?
@@rubenmuller9533 Such premises are still private premises in that admission may be reserved subject to terms of access. Government buildings are not automatically also public buildings, and don't automatically allow unrestrained access to all or even much of it. For instance, in a police station, or hospital, or ministerial offices, there are certain parts that the public is allowed and other parts where the public is not allowed. That demonstrates the right of even government buildings to determine access terms and such terms can include the refusal of firearms. There are very few places where there wouldn't be any right of the managing entity to determine certain terms of access. I cannot think of one, actually. Even public parks have rules that can be legally enforced by the municipality, such as "no dogs", etc.
The big thing is the nature of the right. Where you have a constitutional right to something, e.g. right to religion, you can typically not be denied access because you belong to a certain religion.
But the South African constitution does not provide a constitutional right to carry a firearm, so therefore any place that does not allow you in because you have a firearm, may be entitled to do so, without infringing on your rights.
BUT I need to state that I am a prosecutor, not a constitutional law expert. I form the above opinion based on my limited knowledge of the law on those aspects.
@@antonburger01 thanks for the information, I will take it into consideration and find out more information before making any decisions👍🏼
Thank you for this information my brother well I'm still a new license holder
Thanks for the comment😁
I have been looking to get a firearm because criminals these days are so well armed.
I have been a victim a few times and it was the worst being unable to protect my family.
Than you for this information brings much clarity 🙏
What you are saying is as a 75 yr old a guy walk into my house no weapons and start to take my stuff away i should let him carry on, phone the police who us 20 mins away but they got no transport. Because of my age i connot stop this young strong man from stealing my stuff
This is a difficult one to answer in text as there are so many variables in a real situation. You can use reasonable force to affect an arrest. If in doing so, the suspect threatens your life... now you are shooting to save your life, not your tv.
Get an alarm system or phone your local security company. They will respond to your call free of charge
@@Paulibelieveyou pay for there services just like you are being taxed that is paying for services from the SAP.
Even security companies have to follow the same laws a the people.
A burglar alarm system is an early warning system and now in SA criminals don't care about that as they also know that all security companies are understaffed and the reaction officers are 90% of the time not properly trained.
@@sienervanrensburg6644 As a reaction officer with 16 years experience I guarantee you that an alarm system is an effective method to prevent criminal from clearing out the house. When the boundary alarm is triggered criminals haven't even entered the house at that point and only have a mere 6min to break in to the building, select the goods AND be a significant distance away from the scene before we standof. In many cases they either leave some of the loot or flee the scene with nothing..
Most companies have multiple vehicles working one shift and with 2way radio communication we are effective in most cases to stop them getting away with most of the stolen goods. Our goals are property protection and not apprehending of the criminals.
We respond to non-client phone calls of suspicious vehicles, persons and barking dogs without charging them a cent.
As a minimum standard reaction officers qualifications consist of a security C grade + an armed response course and firearm compitency. Some of us have tactical training and house penetration qualifications. BUT It is important to do some home work before selecting the security company you will use. The private cecurity industry out numbers the SA police force by far.
Thank you
I have a question regarding a hypothetical situation.
Say for instance, you are stuck in traffic, and hijackers (2, one from either side) attempt to threaten you with a brick/knife by tapping the window/making a stance to throw it at the window to break it.
Would the window/door be seen as a barrier which needs to be broken before deadly force is justified, or would it be justified in such circumstances, where there is no means of escape, to use deadly force immediately?
Good question, while each situation has its own merits and nuances. You would more than likely be justified to pull a gun if you are actively engaged in an act of violence. I would personally wait for the barrier to be attacked before shooting, however the nuances of the situation would dictate.
Remember to ask "When must I shoot" and not "when can I shoot".
@@gunlicence Thank you for your response.
Noted! Great point, I will do so going forward. 🙏👍
I think that's a great question! If someone is threatening you throw a brick at you, being inside a car is not going to save you. What can you do if you have a firearm?
Good thing a standard brick won't easily break the glass. Tempered glass is quite strong
@@modernkangal although, it is possible. Why take the chances 🤷