This Common Toyota V6 Problem is Often Misdiagnosed! Here's How to Check it
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2022
- A Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician talks about a Common Toyota V6 problem that's often misdiagnosed into a large and expensive repair when it shouldn't be.
In This video we talk about a common Toyota and Lexus 2GR-FE V6 3.5L engine problem that can sound scary but it's actually not a big deal at all.
If you ever have timing codes in your 2GR-FE but the engine runs perfectly fine, this could apply to you. Oil Control Valves are very common to stick on this engine and cause the scary timing codes.
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I don’t have a Toyota . The reason I watch is that it is all honesty, educational and full of common sense. It is a rare quality from a mechanic. All the blessings to you brother!
You should get one)) no other mechanics in TH-cam like AMD for other car makes.
Toyota/Lexus is like Calculus. Once you know how to use it, it will always work and never fail for classical problems.
I've been fortunate to find an honest toyota/ JDM mechanic (Nick @ToyoMotors, Phx, AZ). Went in for what I suspected a possible evap core leak ( 2007 ES350) prepared to pay $1600 for the job to find out leak was found at the schreider valves and he advised we start there before I spend such big $ on such a big job. He was right and I appreciate that!
Go get one. I bought a 2004 Camry with 146000 miles on it and put 20,000 miles on it in 3 months with no issues.
Check out a guy on youtube called Fordteckmaculoco really thorough just like AMD. Also in Chicago!
I feel sorry for the Toyota dealership that lost you as their employee.
Sadly there just aren't many honest and excellent mechanics out there, but at least now you can empower us with these videos of knowledge so we aren't taken advantage off.
I hope all the Toyota dealer mechanics are watching this channel.
He was probably fired because he has integrity! One in a million!
@@derekcapitano5257
I doubt that.
Too bad CarCareNut isn’t teaching mechanics. Oh, he is, US, knowledge is power. The dealer lost his best man for sure.
Sadly it's usually the dealership atmosphere that drives good people like him away. You can trust me on that.
I’m a Subaru guy. I work on my own cars and avoid dealerships like the plague and I learn a thing or two here. You are that rare tech that actually cares about the quality of the work.
Same here on working on my own stuff! Unfortunately even toyota dealers use the cheapest fluids and parts to fix their cars. Most dealers, no matter the brand today, want the car in and out of their shop to get money.
By working on it yourself you know fluids and quality of parts u are using as oppossed to the cheapest crap these dealers can find!
I wish I had him around the corner from me, I would love for him to look after and maintain my 2016 Highlander.
@@marcodarko6941 me too, for my 2010 RX350!
As I always say, a skilled technician is worth their weight in gold.
Not only that but I have learned a lot of valuable information just in the last couple of months I've tuned into this channel. @@eleanormassaro5195
I have a Subaru Legacy 3.0 H6 Spec B. I bkught it with full main dealer service history and the main dealers have also stamped the last service stamp with Spark Plugs done. That was 14000 miles ago of which 10000 were mine on the motorway. I removed the air filter during service and it was obvious it had not been changed half a year ago. Full of black dust and dirty as anything. I'm sick of mechanics that I do my own work (last one knackered every single one of the wheel lugs by double threading). So glad you make these videos as we obviously still have good honest mechanics out there...
"You just need to understand how the system works"....... That is the key and that is where most people fall short.
You continue to make excellent informative videos on Toyota/Lexus products; thank you. I’m a 17 year Lexus master technician and appreciate how you are spot on in everything you do. I also appreciate how I’m still able to learn things through you.
This man is the real deal, folks.
Where do you work my friend? I am in Indianapolis…2009 Corolla
I live on the west coast
@caseyespino8735 - Thanks for having that winning attitude of “always learning”. Not only does it make you a better technician, but it makes you an awesome mechanic. I hope that the guys at Longo Lexus in El Monte, California are learning this.
Do you think its worth to buy a used lexus with 2GR FE at 10K miles?
@JX - Absolutely. It’s brand new still.
As a 30 year plus technician. You hit everything on the spot. Info is very useful. It's nice to see a,factory specific tech, start his own shop. I like the honesty that is presented. This guy knows his stuff.
AMD is a true pro. I only wish his shop was closer to me. Unfortunately many dealers focus on volume vs quality so mechanics likely don’t have the luxury of spending too much time diagnosing.
I live not too far from AMD but my Toyota Camry has never needed repair.
2GR-FE is such a solid engine. My Mom has a 2008 Sienna with 290k, engine light has never been on, the only issues are oil leaks which started after 200k. I bought an RX350 with the same engine due to the reliability. Such a shame that they're discontinuing the V6.
It came a long way since the first couple years when it was a disaster. Still it would have been a much better engine had Toyota put metal oil lines instead of rubber ones.
@@CamKrazy2000 Agreed. I have a 2013 Lexus meaning it has the updated oil lines, but when comparing this engine to others, this problem is somewhat miniscule.
On the 2005-2007 Avalon, Bank 1 had the oil supply line that had a partial rubber hose. That became an issue when it ruptured. I replaced it with a metal line like the right bank. Then insufficient FIPG on the valve cover during engine assembly process. That’s also occurred on other 2GR-FE engines. These are growing pains, but overall it’s been a great engine without serious issues.
When you eventually have a Toyota or Lexus EV, many potential issues we have come to hear about will be history. Let's hope everything else is reliable.
@@davepaturno4290 Notice how Toyota has historically been last in introducing many of the technologies others rushed to get to market? For example, last amongst in introducing the V8. Why? The purchased, tested the competition and then learned from their mistakes/designs. Same applies to the EVs. No doubt they have a fillet of every conceivable EVs doing the same as the V8 engines.
Cars have become VERY complex, that is why I have decided for the rest of my life, my go to automobiles will be under factory warranty, when it is close to running out, trade it in. If you were a little closer, I might keep them a little longer, technicians like you are hard to come by, you are very unique, a good guy in the auto repair business.
You seem like the type that takes to the dealer for only a oil change
I replaced one of these driver side blend motors on one of these vans not too long ago. It had the same issue with target showing one number but actual showing a real high number. Toyota quoted the lady a huge amount to replace it. Book time shows dash removal is needed but I was able to access it under the dash with no problem and replace the servo actuator in less than 30 minutes. She left here very happy other than those servo motors are not cheap.
It would be a wonderful world if all technicians were like you. Today in most fields, technicians are replacement techs and don't know how to diagnose problems. Thank you for what you do. 👍🏻
I agree. Seems like you are going to have to tell them what is wrong. Just a bunch of R&R "mechanics ".
Our world has lost its diagnostic compass, in every field🤡
It's not the world really, mostly it's us, ie UsofA, has developed this problem due to a couple factors including the general quality of primary education. It's the ONLY explanation, when u compare to our peers, such as the commonwealth countries (that means engilsh speaking ones if u dunno), and european countries, and japan and others. We have problems also with ambition levels, ie a lack of it. So, for those who dunno, primary education in any advanced country, includes both national standards, guidance, funding, and so on. We have NONE of that, in comparison, and guess which political party has made that so over the past fifty yrs? The conservative one. YES, for sure, for real-- there's no debating that!
@@18_rabbit Keep politics out of car repair.
That heater thing is one of those things I hate about modern cars, for 80 years we had three machanical nobs on the dashboard that controlled the heater functions, no problem. But no they have to add computers and servomechanisms to complicate and fix a problem that didn’t exist. Another is electronic park brake,ridiculous!!
@Ron Laduke agree. Love the heater/climate control operation for my 2006 Matrix. Super simple to use, unlike later model Corollas.
Blake Cryderman At least the park brake cables don't seize up in the rust belt. They don't have any.
I love auto park never remembered to pull the break lever when it became a pedal.
+1
Another great video that I passed along to a fellow Toyota owner. His Sienna only has about 140,000 miles; luckily, he hasn’t had any major issues yet.
In Toyota world that means barely even break-in unless neglected or screwed up maintenance
Why I love this channel. Truth and expert advice. According to Scotty Toyota’s never break 🤪 we all know Toyota’s are much better then most but like all cars they do break even with maintenance
But according to Scotty and his Toyota customer or other Toyota owners pov even if minor or common problems/issues happen just live with it and do regular maintenance hence running down the road for another 100k miles 💀🇯🇵
Not better, just more reliable lol
@@zacharypeery4082 little bit
@SheerWill Survival Scotty is great! He said they RARELY break down on the side of the road. You have to watch multiple Scotty videos to get to know him. Recently, he showed a melting problem for later model Camry mirrors. Exactly like AMD’s model. The old saying sure is true, they don’t make ‘em like they used to. He knows & says that all cars have their issues, it just always depends if it’s major or minor. Most of the Toyota stuff is minor.
@@sheerwillsurvival2064 in reality they're r better if u know what and how to deal with
Your is video seems like so boring but!! I love it really… sometimes i set it like a bedtime story really! Is just full of knowledge for those toyota owner… great job man!
I love how you explain how things works and what causes it to fail.
Another top notch video! Keep up the great content.
Just found your channel. Outstanding. Thank you.
Great video! Thanks for all detailed info. you show us all time.
VERY educational. Thank you.
Fascinating lesson here.
I learn something new every video you produce. I own a 2GR-FE in a 2016 Sienna that currently runs fine at 98k miles. Watching your videos hopefully prepare me for future eventualities. Thanks you so much for doing what you do!
In aviation troubleshooting, we use the 5 why's to drill down to the problem. Common sense and logic! Thanks for your time and experience sharing, very much appreciated!
I've owned Fords for the past twenty years, but that will change when I purchase my next vehicle. A Toyota or Lexus will be in my garage at some point, so these videos are essential to me. Thanks for the excellent content.
Excellent choice. I had owned Ford, Chevy all the cars had issues after 150 thousand miles. Even when I took good care of my vehicles. Then one day I went out in 2001 bought a 2001 Toyota highlander because I heard how good toyotas were. Never looked backed my 2001 highlander when it died had 475,000 miles it. I then went to dealership and bought a used 2016 highlander one owner, with 42,000 miles on it. Excellent car does everything for my family. Good luck when you get your Toyota you'll never regret it!!
I had a 2012 Highlander with a bank 1 OCV on exhaust. Of course bank 1! Just as you said. I cleared the code and it never returned.
This was the first DIY project I had on my Sienna. Very rewarding to resolve in my garage. Great content AMD!
I just love this channel!
Great video! May your career bring you success!
Very interesting video. I have a 13 Highlander with same engine, so it’s awesome to continue to learn about it
So glad one day I tripped into this channel. All troubleshooting repairs are logically simply explained to a person like me with limited mechanical knowledge. Thank you for sharing.
It is a rare quality indeed, to not only have a wealth of knowledge, but to be willing to share that knowledge in a very clear, concise, easy to understand manner. This is the first video of yours I have watched, and I immediately subscribed.
Always enjoy watching your videos
Mr. AMD, always learning something new & I could feel the passion you take for the job your doing I admire that. Thank You
Very informative and helpful video. Thanks again......!
Thank you AMD for your help with issues of diagnosis of this engine.
Thank you brother, it's always a pleasure to listen to you explain things on these engines. I've owned Toyota all my life and they are excellent vehicles if you take care of all the required maintenance...GB!
I have enjoyed and have learned a great deal of knowledge from your videos and totally agree with your troubleshooting philosophy it is similar to the training I received in the service. I applaud your honesty and your skill at providing your explanations and teaching skills. Keep up the good work . Thank you
Hi from Latvia, Riga, thanks for your videos. I own Lexus gs 300h 2015 and you helped me to understand more about it! Please keep doing what you are doing :)
Could listen to you all day long how clear you explain things.
Love your videos!!!
Your videos are excellent, very helpful information for DIY owners brilliantly presented. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and professionalism.
Excellent video. I'm prepared in case my 2010 RAV4 V6 needs a diagnostic like this.Thank you.
Thanks for a great teaching lesson!....Love Toyotas and even though I'm not a Sienna owner this applies to technical troubleshooting methods for other Toyota vehicles I own! 👍
OUTSTANDING. Troubleshooting 101. You Sir ROCK. Always a pleasure watching you-in fact-in almost 30 years as a licensed aircraft mechanic & ALL the classes I have attended-you kick 80% of the so called instructors clear out into right field. Kudos. Your passion shows through like daylight.
Awesome 👌 Always excellent videos full.of honest, logical and detailed explanations 👍👍
I am so happy that I stumbled upon this channel
Thanks AMD for another interesting and informative video. Your new shop looks awesome 👌
Great to hear you say that there's thousands upon thousands of mechanic part changers, and few diagnosticians of our beloved patients, our cars!
I changed Bank 1 oil control valves on our 2013 Sienna a few months ago due to an intermittent rattle at low rpm. Oddly enough it never through a code but after watching some VVT videos on this engine I thought it was worth a shot. Haven't heard it again. Great Information as always,
I might be in the same spot with my 12 Camry. No check engine light but I've been hearing a clicking sound at idle right from this area on bank 2. I replaced my serpentine belt tensioner and idler pulley but the noise didn't stop.
The reason why I watch this gentleman‘s channel is that after being a mechanic for 35 years I came down with lung disease. I purchased my wife a new Highlander as future insurance that she won’t need my services in the near future. I’m taking care of the car the best I can now so that she won’t have to worry about it later. The experience this gentleman has is extremely valuable in today’s market! If I with in a 200 mile radius of this gentleman shop I will take our cars there.
You should have a classroom for Toyota mechanic students. You are so thorough. Thanks. Very informative lecture and examples.
You are a good teacher
diagnose a car is the hardest part, i have much respect for a good master tech. They are really patient to be diagnose the problems.
Thank you for your time.
Thank you for your videos
I tell you sir. Watching you it's like going to class daily. I can't stop watching 😁 its just so informative. I tell all my friends to watch. Thank you once again for a this info and videos. I will keep my avalon running for years and years to come. Thank you again. 😊
A very powerful message at the end. I find nothing but part replacement mechanics in my local area, so for my own vehicle I am here studying your channel trying to become a diagnostician at least for my own Toyota. Thanks so much for your content, sensei.
I need to get me a good 2-way scan tool. Watching the AC actuator numbers actuate and the vvt change engine idle with your scan tool gave me car nerd goosebumps...that was so cool.
Very informative video. Most shops in general would throw parts in without proper diagnostics. I'd love to take my Toyota or Lexus to this shop. 👍👍
Thanks for this tutorial, it was so helpful!
Awesome video, sir. Thank you for talking about topics like this one in such great detail and clarity. 👊
You sound like a very knowledgeable mechanic. Keep up the good vids 👍
Whew - My ears were glued to this video as mine is a 2015 Sienna Limited. Good information. I really look forward to doing oil changes on my 2GR-FE engine... LOL
TY Sir another great video, I have passed this on too my fellow members of the Toyota Owners Club here in Australia. As you said many mechanics today can't be bothered to diagnose the issue and just ask you too open your wallet wide by throwing the parts cannon at the engine so Ty mate I appreciate your open honesty at how to work out what is the actual problem.
Keep Safe Keep Strong 🦘🦘🦘🦘🚗🚗
With all due respect Sir but you are from a different breed. Your honesty is appreciated.
I have a V6 Ford Escape , But your videos are just top quality, Very good presentation, and diagnostic techniques! Blessings Brother.
What a educator , you make the most uninteresting subjects demanded listening . I continuously think do I have the time for this , then , the talk is over I’ve listened and enjoyed the complete video .
Another great video AMD - you are growing strength to strength - btw you know video is good and informative when you don't have the urge to play it at 1.5 or 2x speed -
Fantastic. Thank you for the information and help.
Stumble upon this video and I also have A/C problem on my Lexus. Thanks for guiding on how to check the motors.
And this is why I take my car to a technician .Great info as always.
Always glad to see notification of new video... If I live long enough, I may get my ES300 running again...
I’m my former shop, we ran BG 109 in engines at every 30,000 miles. According to BG, this reduced if not eliminated the chance for any type of carbon or contamination of oil galleys/passages/restriction points to include oil control valves. With regularly scheduled oil changes, high quality oil filters (we used Wix, Wix XP or OE) and full synthetic engine oil. Engine oil is the lifeblood of any engine. As always, excellent posting AMD. May God continue to bless you and your family!
Thanks for this. We had this happen on an RX.
Great video best in the business
Morning and Thank you for what you due every day.... from Worcester Mass.
Sorry for your situation
love your stuff AMD.
I learned so watching this channel thank u so much
I have a feeling that I could eat off the floor at your shop and not get sick. You have THE cleanest shop on the Internet! 😲 Well done!
That is a super useful video my friend :)
This is what an honest Master Mechanic should always be... we appreciate you so very much for your time and for sharing your knowledge...May the LORD keep you under HIS wings brother!
Love your work 👍
Thank you sir for that wonderful advices!
I hust love watching and learning more about these Toyota engines. I need another car. Wrong persons working on my 2010 Prius, which I love, nowbit needs a motor. What to buy now. Doing my research. I have told everyone about your youtube channel. Another great vedio!!! God Bless You and Your Family!!!
👍 excellent as usual mate ..
Great video. Thanks 👍
The amazing AMD as always. I am seriously contemplating one day driving my Lexus GS350 from Atlanta to Chicago for one of the "big" services; as a true car care nut, I've learned so much from this channel and will want my Lexus to get the "AMD spa treatment" one day.
Haven't learned enough to DIY
13 hours later and you are in chicago.
Do it, make it a vacation, Chicago has plenty of things to do. Drop off the car, rent another, come back few days later. My family and I did that but over the weekend, made an appointment with him and drove from Kansas City. We had a blast in Chicago and got my car looked at too.
LOL! I’ve actually thought about driving my RX 350 from Tampa to Chicago just to have AMD look it over!😁
@@ahmadghosheh3104 awesome!
Lol ilove watching your videos! Not only are they full great info plus a couple nice jokes here in there. That bicycle chain on the 3.6L GM got me rolling on the ground lol 😆 😅 keep u the great work AMD!!
Great video! Quite the timing for this, pun intended!, video. I have a 2010 Lexus RX 350 where I've experienced very intermittant P0012 code over the last 12 mos. Maybe one code every 4mos. Just had it throw a 3rd tim last Friday. The engine runs perfectly fine, no loss of power or other abnormal noises when starting or running. It's been driving great. After seeing this video, it does confirm that the solenoid is sticking. I will get it replaced before it gets any worse in the next couple of weeks. Cheers!
Learned much and you are a very smart person. Very impressive 👍thank you, learning much on my new used Toyota.
Love this channel ❤
Very educational. I have a RAV4 with 2GRFE
I own lots of Toyotas, this is the BEST site for DIY'ers. God Bless his efforts.
On my 2011 Highlander started to blow cold air, dealer and other shops gave estimate for $2k-3k to repair HVAC system. I ended up doing it in my garage , ended up removing dashboard to access the servo, part cost around $300 from Toyota, and have Teachstreem on my laptop.
You do a fantastic Job Sir thank you.
Pulled a P0015 on my 2011 Camry V6 today and wondered if I could change it out myself. At least I know where to look now. This guy is such a useful bank of car info!!
My lexus gs 450h 2006 gave this p0022 code 2021 june, diagnosed engine running and cleared the code.
Also did rvs treatment + regular oil change with toyota original oil.
Havent got this code again since then.
Nice to see professional to explain this, maybe ill check that vvt valve filter later, already ordered new filter. :)
Thank you for your very educational videos!
Even if a person knows what the problem is and tries to correct the problem, we must be aware if you are not skill enough the problem could become worst, I have seen people add refrigerant without first checking to other alternatives related to problem, this car care nut is an expert and on top of that, honesty is his best policy
Great, thanks for sharing your knowledge
Thank you!
Our 2013 Highlander Limited has thrown a P0014 a 3 or 4 times over the years.
No performance issues; 5K oil changes, and regular maintenance.
The code normally goes away in a couple of days.
Thank goodness great job