Jessica Lynch Rescue Operation Truth EXPOSED By Member
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- Former Army Ranger Mike Burke speaks with David Hookstead about the mission to rescue Jessica Lynch during the Iraq War. What really happened and what is the truth?
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It's really great they chose a supermodel to kidnap. I wouldn't wanna pay taxes to bring back ugly women.
#psyop
I sure was glad they got her out.
Here's another angle of the story. One of our police officers was in a transport company (So.Dakota NG) that was either in front or behind Lynch's unit. It was a cluster from the start by not having accurate navigation. IIRC road signs were removed or non-existent so they had to guess what highway they were on or what town was nearby. They'd get orders to pull off the road, drive to XX and camp out for the night. But there was no features in the landscape, nothing but flat desert. They did not have GPS units. So that was bad enough along with the dust or powder sand. So that was the first problem.
The South Dakota unit was already well aware, from contact with and reputation, that Lynch's unit was one of the worst for everything. Lack of discipline, lack of vehicle maintenance, lack of knowledge or sub-par on Army stuff they should have known, they had a slob attitude, they were lazy AND they did not see the need to keep their weapons clean.
When the So.Dakota unit heard of the debacle with Lynch's outfit, they were not surprised at all. Then the BS story or stories came out about their M16s jammed and blah blah. So being lazy and not cleaning your weapon morphed into "yeh that POS M16 is still jamming jada yada".
This may sound harsh but the So.Dakota NG unit did not have much sympathy for them. Lynch's outfit set themselves up for failure. The SD troops cleaned their weapons every day and took their job/situation serious because they fully realized they were highly vulnerable to ambush or night attack. Because of the fine dust once a day cleaning actually was minimal. Some troops found ways to cover their rifles with plastic bags or any way to seal dust out of the receiver and barrel.
Until that officer told me about her unit's experience and first hand observation of other units, the only story I knew what the Pentagon/White House approved narrative. So that helped answer some doubts I had especially about so many M16s jamming at the same time. FWIW This police officer was an E-5 at the time. She had a lot more details but I don't recall as I retired 13 years ago and heard the incident several years before that. I know I'm not the first one to mention details about what a slob outfit Lynch was in.
i recorded the dateline NBC segment in fall 2003 with members of the 507th on VHS and transfered it to digital and uploaded YT. Stone Phillips leads the interview: th-cam.com/video/5xjPY0WgFww/w-d-xo.htmlsi=sIM2Yi9k0B8sVxCZ
I’ve been very open about this topic for years. If you want to have a discussion with someone internal at the hospital as part of the assault force send me an email: andystumpf212@gmail.com and we can sort it.
The only people responsible for the intense firefight rescue narrative were those that weren’t there. It was a simple objective that was briefed as being extremely high risk due to the intelligence we had, and ended up not being that way. Within 24 hours we were already on other objectives, the narrative was spun by people far upstream.
My brother was Sgt. Donald R. Walters of the 507th Maintenance Company, the same unit that Lynch served in. Durning the ambush on the 507th, he became separated from his unit, was taken prisoner, beaten, stabbed, and eventually executed in captivity by Fedayeen soldiers.
A couple of things: His body was recovered at the hospital during the Lynch rescue operation. He was one of the soldiers whose body was exhumed, as mentioned in this discussion. I don’t know if anyone in this clip was directly involved in that effort, but on behalf of my family, I want to express our profound gratitude to you and all of those involved in the effort. I’m terribly sorry that you had to go through that. My parents have both since passed, but it meant a great deal to them that he was found and was able to come back home to the United States.
Regarding Lynch and the actions that were initially attributed to her: As the investigation into the events surrounding the ambush on the 507th began to unfold, our family was told that Don was essentially left behind as the convoy rushed to get itself out of the kill zone. He attempted to extricate himself on foot, and resisted for as long as he could before expending his ammunition and being captured. We were told that there was a report about a lone, blond hared soldier putting up fierce resistance before being captured, however the translator mixed up the male and female pronoun in the report, so it incorrectly referred to a female soldier when it should have referenced a male. Because Lynch was the only blond female soldier in the unit, the actions were immediately ascribed to her. The story of the brave female warrior made for an excellent propaganda piece, and the media ran with it. The speculation is that the soldier that the report was referring to was Don. He had sandy brown hair, but it would turn blond after prolonged exposure to the sun. I have no idea whether or not this is true, but I figured I’d share that side of the story. I do have boxes of documents from the investigation and my parents’ FOIA requests, but they’ve basically been siting for a couple of decades, as going through them all and piecing it all together is a rather daunting task.
Anyhow, I just wanted to share.
Would you mind emailing me at David.Hookstead@outkick.com? I’d like to speak to you further about your brother.
I would also like too hear more about this
"I am still confused as to why they chose to lie and tried to make me a legend when the real heroics of my fellow soldiers that day were, in fact, legendary. People like Lori Piestewa and First Sergeant Dowdy who picked up fellow soldiers in harm's way. Or people like Patrick Miller and Sergeant Donald Walters who actually fought until the very end" straight from her wiki. Controversy section
Damn… hey thank you very much for sharing that.
Thank you for sharing your brother's story. I believe you. I am so sorry for your family's loss. I knew Jessica's rescue story was filled with lies and fakery thru no fault of her own.
It was Bush's enormous PR campaign reinforcing his lie for invading Iraq. It was the Saudi Arabia and the Bin Laden family literally built Saudi Arabia. That is why only two planes ✈️ were airborne after the 9/11 attacks, Air Force One and the Bin Laden family fleeing America for Paris. The Bush's have had deep financial oil interests in Saudi since the early 1970's. Americans were vulnerable after 9/11 and they didn't seem to care who paid for the terroristic attack on The World Trade Center!
Rest in Peace Brandon Sloan from Bedford Ohio. His Father's only Son, was there too and did not make it home. I remember an interview with Jessica Lynch she mentioned his bravery...
His name is Brandon Sloan.
Thankyou for sharing his name
@@matthewmedeiros5832 His Father was a Preacher too. For the longest time I watched to reach out to him but really didn't know what to say.
I will never understand how an only son is allowed to go into war. I'm a sixty six year old texan. Never served never wanted to because I don't believe in the government is in my best interest. Case in point Vietnam. Do I need to say anything more?
@@rodneypratt4324 Same here. His Father was a Pastor too. I've made sure as many people as I can know his story too.
" In war, truth is the first casualty ". Aeschylus.
The tragic death in combat of Pat Tillman shows that.
@@DavidLLambertmobile Death in conflict is inevitable. Tillman died from a lack of communication, a number of his Ranger brethren have addressed that. Of course, there was no need to misstate the nature of that event, and therein lies the rub.
@@DavidLLambertmobileimagine how many others hit with friendly fire that we will never know about
In journalism, too.
I met 100’s of Navy Seal and Marine Raiders, all combat hero’s but ultimately only 2 were legit
Marine Corps Vet here. The units involved in Task Force Tarawa who assisted in the rescue of Pvt. Lynch were part of the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade. That unit consisted of the 2nd Marine Regiment. The units comprising the 2nd Marine Regiment at the time were 1/2, 2/8, 2/6, 3/2, 1/10, Charlie Co / 2nd LAR, Alpha Co. / 2nd Recon BN, Alpha Co / 2nd Tracks BN, Alpha Co / 8th Tanks BN, Alpha Co. / 2nd CEB, Alpha Co. / 6th CEB, MAG 28 and 29, and CSS BN 22. In case anyone cares.
No , no one cares anymore. Go fight the Russians
I've never researched the op so I wouldn't know any better but anytime someone is risking their lives, accuracy matters.
I was their 2/6
160th Soar along with Air Force PJ
th-cam.com/video/ZdifpZPWpcw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HX0u4NCfltOEZHP5
Was there. Dude is telling it exactly as it happened.
-B/2/1-75
RLTW brother. Thanks for serving. 1/75 Charlie Co. 79‐81
No! That can't be true! The whole world knows that Marines and seal units are the REAL "Avengers" because they are GODS"!!
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Pfft...
And yes... RLTW.
Attached to CSM Haney for 2 and half years in Panama. '87 to Just Cause.
@gman21266 and the whole world knows when the God's are in trouble the Marine commanders always call on the Rangers to LEAD THE WAY. Thank you Marine for our motto given in WWII.
Hooah
They say the first casualty of any war is the truth.
I was on the invasion of Iraq and remember when she was taken, it seemed like the push just stopped and everyone was trying to find her. if only her unit would have known how to read maps and clean their weapons, you know basic soldiering skills
The prevailing attitude in the Army is that soldiering skills are for the infantry, and everyone else just has their own job to worry about. My engineer unit went to Desert Storm, and weapons maintenance was non-existent to the point that all our fifty cals were rusted shut. I had tried to teach some refresher courses on the AT-4 rockets one day, and everybody told me to fuck off. Well, one night we got a net call that a battalion of Iraqi thanks was headed our way, and it was pure chaos; we were handing out rockets, and guys were asking me how to use them... 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
my point exactly, we were trying to teach our support units basic skills like land nav and basic weapons skills, was obvious they hadnt even seen a map since basic@@slappy8941
@slappy8941 My experience wasn't that sloppy with unit arms, but absolutely was with combined arms, comms and larger unit operations. If anyone but the comms guy knew how to call QRF, you'd be lucky.
I remember that too, the got lost and went into an enemy controlled area
I was shocked they no longer do dead stick testing for pilots. Also they have no idea how to stabilize a slung load. I just let go and let the autopilot do it.
The good thing is I am not worried if they side with the tyrants in this country. But I bet they can color coordinate their nail polish with their eyelashes to beat the band.
I'm so old that when I saw the title of this video I thought it was about the little girl that was trapped in a well.
Lol
So did I 😂
I think that was Jessica McClurre
I think you’ve mixed up the news with the Simpson’s where Bart pretended to be Timothy McClure and claiming he was trapped down a well. Or I made that all up. Not sure 🤔 @@ladder41
I remember that but i knew who Jessica lynch was due to I was in Iraq at the time
I was a patient at Walter Reed assigned to the same medical holding company as PFC Lynch. We never saw her though. She got VIP treatment even after the propaganda story started falling apart. When she had appointments, she was flown in and out by chopper as if she was the President.
Just trying to control the narrative.
Your government has failed all veterans, we never should've been in Iraq.
Are you mad at her ? Be mad at your government not some random 19 year old
@@sad_vegan507 Where did OP state he was mad at her?
Never saw her but comments on her anyway.
PFC Jessica Lynch is extremely humble. She says that SFC Patrick Miller and SPC Lori Piestewa were the real heroes, and was quite angry Bush and his admin lied and said she was something she wasn't. She seems like a nice girl. Miller retired a few years ago after he put a full 20 years in.
Bush lied about the whole war
I read some interviews with her. She was pretty pissed how the original story made her out to be a hero.
Lori Piestewa an American hero.
Seems people forget she wasn’t the only one rescued.
She was the only one that the media sensationalized because she was an attractive young woman.
@@JP-ec9rl that's what gets me about this current gen. Most of them think that female empowerment didn't start until 2016 or something. We grew up with girl bosses, kick ass women, and the like through the 80s and 90s too. Even the fabricated nonsense like with Lynch.
@@markdsm-5157 tell me about it. I was actually there in Nasaria that day and the day after.
You'd think she'd fought the war by herself if you believed the media.
But this is what, more than a decade post GI Jane?
Absolute propaganda!
The army taught the inept stupidity of how that unit ended up cut off from their larger element and back into an ambush, as an example of what not to do, in convoy survivability training.
Most people don't even know the whole story that they drove through the city and didn't get hit, realized that they were going the wrong way and turned around and drove back into a heavily defended area.
Not that she made those bad decisions being a private.
In my experience about 20% of women in the military actually do do their job. So I'm not opposed to them being there but if the other 80 percent get away with being carried and manipulating the system, it's due to bad policy and double standards.
@@JP-ec9rl An attractive young, white woman. It has to be said. The Republicans in power at that time wanted that. She was selected. I've read many of the comments and even copied them because this will go into my folder about another POW who broke her ankle. She was in enemy hands. Nothing was written about her.
Always admired those who found and recovered the missing bodies in Nasiriyah, both at the hospital and the M1A1 that went into the Euphrates: one of the few battles in history where there were no MIA. Not all heroes wear capes.
The real story is sad. 507th was a maintenance company. They were not combat arms. They were just moving from one point to another. Not wearing their kevlar helmets, not in any kind of protective posture. Instead, they were wearing bandanas, listening to their first generation IPODs or portable CD players and not even remotely paying attention. This was a classic case of complacency on all of them. Everyone assumes the real combat is elsewhere in the country. They were attacked, they all got their asses kicked or killed in mere minutes. There was no real gun fights at all. The enemy had the element of surprise and the troops were shocked, scared and confused as to what was even happening. There were no heros in that situation. They were just patriots, serving their country. There was nothing heroic on what they did, as a matter of fact their complacency shows quiet the opposite. Because of this situation, the US needed a good story, drafted up a plan. Went and got Lynch and used it as propaganda. The "rescue" was rather simple and the opposite of a hollywood movie. I've served for 27 years and i've seen enough to realize how much BS our gov has reported to the public. They are the biggest scam artists of them all. I used to think otherwise. And nothing against the troops nor disrespect to the 507th, they just fell into the trap of complacency (as we all get tested in the military often). And the story was blown up and exeggerated beyond belief.
As a pilot, I agree with you about complacency. It is the number one killer for pilots. You gain enough experience and then soon find yourself not using checklists as often as you should, because in the back of your mind, you’re always thinking that the crash or tragedy in the air is always someplace else.
Thanks for your perspective.
This is not actually the full truth, the story attributed to Lynch was from Iraqi reports of a blond-headed soldier who kept fighting til he used up all his ammo. They say the gender translation was mixed up and this refers to Sgt Walters who was seperated, kept fighting til he used up all his ammo then was tortured and executed.
Of course the Defense Dept. Took the story of the pretty blonde being the hero and ran with it.
SFCs Miller and Piestewa were also praised by survivors.
Otherwise what you're saying is plausible.
Oif 04-06 amen
It was wag the dog…. Old Boot! Politicians have no shame Jessica did and refused to go along with lie. Others in the unit that also refused had accidents later. SPIN THAT
The Marines had been fighting with the fedayeen throughout the city. There was fedayeen all over the city the morning of the raid. When the raid went down that night they were gone. Seals recovered Jessica, Rangers from 1/75 recovered the bodies of the rest of the 507th maintenance company from shallow graves.
One of those 1/75 SAW gunners spent the better part of his first year home on my couch. He was the first one I ever heard saying what a load of shit the official narrative had been.
@@FloridaManMatty
Tell me if I’m wrong; one of the biggest reasons Jessica Lynch wasn’t killed with the rest of her unit is because her weapon wouldn’t function due to not being maintained properly and was essentially full of the baby powder sand they have there?!
I never dealt with a decaying human corpse in my time in the military but I did as a LEO in the civilian world. It's unimaginable to most people and the 1/75 Rangers did what was needed. They did it without fanfare and without accolades. They took care of fallen US soldiers and made sure to return them home to America. I was a US Paratrooper, not a Ranger, but I am so proud of the US Rangers and how they do what needs to be done. RLTW!!
@@ralphalvarez5465they do lead the way.
PJ family
Thank you for your service, sir.
I remember politicians ( especially some female politicians ) wanted to give her the CMH . I was like " Really ? Why ? "
what is cmh ? the award is called medal of honor
Which specific female politicians wanted to give her the Congressional Medal of Honor?
@@bobbie4904 it's called the Congressional Medal of Honor....it's awarded by the Commander in Chief "in the name of the Congress of the United States of America"
Medal of Honor is the shortened term not the name of it. Learn about something before commenting jackass
same reason they gave obama a nobel prize....
He’s laughing and giggling to mask his pain. Stay strong brother
I don’t blame Jessica Lynch,I blame the pentagon and politicians for trying to twist a story to benefit themselves.
Yup they do that all the time. Did the same with Pat Tillman.
She could have said enough
What’s amazing is how they celebrated Jessica, Hudson, Levy and the rest of them for making a wrong turn. Sometimes making a mistake is not being a hero!!
Its easier to push an agenda than it is to admit that the government failed this young woman and she brutally suffered as a result.
Well, that is how tragically wars go, it was very British indeed to turn a terrible mess into a heroic story creating a false narrative.
Let’s not forget that all of her team’s rifles jammed from lack of cleaning. They were a maintenance team that believed they wouldn’t see combat. Jessica owned up to all of this and admitted she was not a hero, just a victim of Iraqi brutality. I give her a lot of credit and I blame the brass for trying to make her a symbol.
@@Medevicerep well said!!! And yes she did stand up to the truth!! Ty!
That's your take from this?! So her capture, torture and eventual rescue amounts to no more than they took a wrong turn? Shame on you!
I knew an old crazy Korean war vet from georgia who looked like Colonel Sanders. I remember talking with him about the time that the Jessica Lynch thing happened. It was obvious they weren't telling us the whole story. The way he put it was "you know jessie won't be able to hold her mud after them A rabbs get done with her. She's gonna be wearing a colostomy bag for a while".
This dude is the definition of "Better to laugh, than cry"😅😂💪
Hey David, you should consider reaching out to a Ranger by the name of Chris Bemiss. He wasn’t just there for the rescue portion of the operation, but was also on his hands and knees digging through the earth to recover remains of Spc. Lori Piestewa. Some of the details he can share are things I’ve never heard anywhere else.
I remember the hollywood production version of Jessica Lynch capture: in it these ghouls painted those brave young men as cowards who hid at the back of their vehicle while she fought off the attack: the truth was that every single one of those men fought to the death while protecting her at the same time. I'm glad that she at least had the integrity to set the record straight in a televised address in front of a committee hearing.
The media, pentagon, and feminists wanted a female Rambo so bad!
I think it's more so that they didn't want the narrative out there that US soldiers surrendered without putting up a fight or that some fled for their lives and left their comrades to die.
This comment should be pinned.
And instead they disrespect a young woman who suffered brutally at the hands of her captors so they can push an agenda. Feminists do not care about the well-being of women at all. They only care about marxism. Lynch has refused the title of hero numerous times but I see a number of callous veterans who would rather blame her than blame the government who failed her. Calling her a coward is so wrong, and I pray no one ever has to endure what she did.
Right. Feminists had a voice. SMH. Try the Pentagon needed to control the narrative and needed our military to be the saviors now that we had POWs. Bring in the SOF.
Yep. Ghouls.
March 23-March 27th RCT1, 1st BATT 2nd Marines and 3rd BATT 1st Marines pushed through and/or held open "Ambush Alley" engaging in heavy combat. The Marine from my research were not "pushed out". After heavy combat, that subsided by March 27th the town was cordoned off and clearing out was to commence around the time of the rescue. In the march up to Baghdad this was some of the heaviest resistance encountered. There was good reason for the rescuers to anticipated enemy resistance. Having watched this all unfold on the "news" I recall the reporters hyping it all up. The reporters got a bit to excited and ahead of events anticipating more violence. It was all very dramatic yet anticlimactic, luckily. As a side note this is one of at least two events where Army Support Units lost just went headlong down the road passing lead elements of combat Marines that were stopped and evaluating what was ahead. If whoever was commanding the Army Units had thought to stop and ask combat troops why they were stopped and asked what was ahead none of this would have happened. Noter to future military support convoys never drive past leading combat units stopped on the roadside without checking with said combat troops.
It was RCT2 1/2, 3/2, 2/8 and other Marines from 2nd Marine Division were in An Nasariyah. 1st Battalion 2nd Marines took heavy casualties on the 23rd from a friendly fire incident from A10s. RCT2 was still clearing the city when the rescue operation went down.
Word from other troops who served with these reserve soldiers said they were an " Ate Up" outfit. Every drill , year in and out.
Also, said that they weren't surprised by their performance and outcome.
Inaccurate. TF Tarawa got there to find some of the survivors outside the city.
I'll never forget the day we stumbled upon two female 88M's left on the side of the road after their Hemmet had broke down. The rest of their convoy had left them, and told them they would would send recovery assets back for them. This was around October of 03, about six mile outside of Samarra. Our tank sat with them and pulled security, while the Lt's tank went back to our camp to escort a recovery vehicle back out to take them to our camp. They were shook up about the ordeal, and rightfully so.
I served with Mike. Great dude
We need a moratorium on the word Like in the English language. Me included.
Couldn't agree more.
The same with people that start every sentence with "so".
I thought only 15 year old clueless girls talked that way. (sorry for the tautology)
Like, I know what you mean, it’s like…
@@edhill8341 Ha ha, very funny.
can we add the rhetorical "right?" after every sentence. didn't happen here but "right?" is the new "like"...
Like seriously
As with all false narratives, the truth always come out.
his comments about lack of sanitary conditions was something i experienced in Iraq during the war. i never thought it was a sandy country because when it did rain the water did not flow down though the sand but turned into muck....my thought it was not sand but five thousand years of dried human and camel shit. but hey i am not a CSI lab tech.
thank you for your service and good to let people know the horrors of war.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED...
GOOD JOB BROWNIE
My dad developed the Mark 12 SPR through the "Crane (NSWC) Small Arms group" and I ( his son ) helped build the first and test fire the first 750 of the first Mark 12's to be deployed. One of those was used in the recovery of Jessica Lynch. It was crazy to watch the video clips on CNN of her rescue knowing that I had hands on building and test firing (pre-deployment) of an actual rifle that was used in her rescue ( One that had a full suppressor attached), And that each of those 750 that were initially deployed to the SEALS had at least 100 confirmed "dispatched" by Xmas of 2001 per rifle.
Yeah sure ok bro
Let's bring up the fact. There was a special forces team on the ground in the town that knew where she was and they were told to stand down because there was going to be A. Big rescue staged. How do I know? I was there.
Jerry Bruckheimer (spelling?) was in the Pentagon calling the shots on how things had to happen so a war thriller movie could be made later.
REALLY? I am a subscriber and fan of your channel. I believe you!
Hours before the Jessica Lynch rescue operation kicked off 2/1 started to take the city. I was with 2/1 Golf and it was my understanding that we were taking the city in order to draw the enemy away from the hospital. Before we pushed up to our first objective tanks and LAR entered the city and were hitting targets granted they were a couple miles ahead of us so couldn’t tell what rounds they had in coming but they were shooting main gun and coaxial. As far as our platoon we didn’t take any fire.
Also we should separate The Battle of Nasiriyah in 2 parts with the first part being the ambush of the 507 and when 1/2 pushed in on the west side of the city (they also received friendly fire from the A-10s) on March 23. And the second part when 2/1 pushed in the city and Jessica Lynch was rescued on April 1st.
I was there with Fox 2/8. We met some resistance but we got the job done, the battle lasted about a week and a half and the city was secured!
Because the feminist want super women.......
Apparently you were not paying attention
Keep in mind, the last story they wanted circulating at the outset of a new war is that US soldiers were captured (possibly without putting up a fight), or that due to negligence, incompetence, or cowardice (or a combination of all three) that US soldiers were left behind to die.
I have the upmost respect for Jessica. She honored Laurie by not making those events commercialized.
That is absolutely 100% false about the Marines being pushed out of the city and they were unable to secure the city. Marines had been fighting in the city for 10 days before the rescue mission. Ask me how I know.
How u know ?
@@bookreaderson Because Devil-Dog was probably there.
SFMF
@@ligmasack9038 who is devil Doug? A wrestler or sumthin
Bc I was a cb..literally building towers for marines ..right across street in the ag building day of...
Actually how it went down is the marines and rangers and the unit all tried to get her and failed. So seal team 6 were called in to get her. They went in with 6 guys and one dog. She was being held by 450 enemy and they got into a 7 hour gun fight and rescued her. I know this because Rob O’Neil told me
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You mean SEAL Team 6?
@@michaelg7402 he said seal team 6 in his post
@@FranklinRoadsSEAL!!!!
It was 6 dogs and one seal. Like an actual SEAL trained seal
Good interview, a friend was in overwatch Marine Spec Op Sniper team. Ghosts covering the entry teams backs. One of 33 missions his platoon did on the push north. They did lead, flank and special target ops as directed officer commanding went on first task then let the NCO team run everything while he did all the reporting paperwork and supply effort to keep the fuel, ammo and food topped off. The truth will out in 100 years or longer.
your channel did a phenomenal job of making sure that I do not let my nephew join the military, thank you for that
I think we all know there's no way in hell the federal government administration in charge at the time, or military leadership of that time would have made such a risky and unreasonable and very expense effort to find a male Marine, soldier, sailor airman, or coast guardsman in the same position. By the way, male hostages get raped as much if not more than female hostages by middle eastern countries, which include many other forms of torture. Just sayin. It was all BS and a dog and pony show. Imagine the countless number of men who have been in the same situation and nobody, literally, NOBODY in leadership position would have made the decisions that this government and military leadership did. Totally disgusting and disgraceful. Don't get me started on how the leadership of her command totally f'ed up and got this convoy in the situation in the first place. I don't recall if any of the top brass were held accountable. I don't think they were because of how it would shed a worse light of the whole situation.
There are a lot of steps when it comes to recovering a Soldier, you can't just go thundering in and expect everything to go well. Incompetent is strong and we talk about Russia being incompetent. This reminds me of the Tongo Tongo ambush.
The interviewee gave the absolutely classiest response to battlefield memory discrepancies I've ever heard. You can't make sense of it all after the fact.
She was left in an abandoned hospital. Camera op. I was at Balad 03-04. Huge psyop
I heard that when they got to her she has been raped so bad she only had one hole. Not sure how much of that is true.
Same as the babies dumped from incubators
Yeah funny how everyone knew the truth from the beginning 1) 507th got lost, 2) didn't know what they were doing, 3) girls crashed Thier HMMWV, 4) Iraqis took her to hospital, yet people ate up the media puff piece without question. When we got back to Germany and found out she was a hero we were shocked haha
I remember listening to an interview with someone about that ambush and they said Lynch actually never even fired a shot.while her group was getting shot at.she curled up in a ball in the floorboard
Something everyone should learn: The truth is never what it seems.
Isn't the reason why there is a hero story around Jessica Lynch's rescue obvious?
This is the perfect propaganda!
"A woman that was captured is rescued in a heroic firefight!"
This is like "Sleeping Beauty" merged with "Rapunzel" only real and in modern times.👑
My question is how much the recruitment numbers surged after this incident! 🙄
She was running around trying to find a weapon that worked because her weapon was so dirty and poorly maintained she had to find one that would fire
lies lol she already said she was concussed and doesn't remember much because the crash her weapon jammed
That's a very good point about not only being captured by the enemy, but being captured as a female soldier. Our country is all gung-ho about getting women in combat units, so we better be prepared for the awful things that are going to happen to the female soldiers that are captured in the next big war. It sucks but this is the path our country took.
I thought the made a wrong turn and she ran into the back of another vehicle. I also heard she had a weapon malfunction and she didn’t know or couldn’t clear it. I also thought there was a .50 cal and she didn’t know how to operate it.
But they never talk about her battle buddy who was killed, Lori Piestewa, who was a Native American.
I'm glad we got her back, but she was completely incompetent in a completely incompetent unit.
I was in the Army Infantry she was part of a supply company of pogs and they had terrible leadership. They took a wrong turn and they had piss poor weapon maintenance so their weapons kept jamming. Got a bunch of them killed and captured .
Wish I was 32 again.
Had conversation with Lynch at Daytona Speedway. She was a Grand Marshall, She literally said, "I wish I stayed" - take it as you will
What does that mean?
The government fuxed this woman over. They keep telling her she was raped,but she keep telling them she wasn't. The government and msm keep reporting she was raped but she keep saying she wasn't. Do you understand now?
Stayed where?
@@MrJm323survivors guilt.
@@anotherarmchairhistorian2831exactly.
Jessica Lynch. The poster child used the promote expanding women’s combat role.
When it only ever should've had the opposite effect, it should clearly have been used to explain why women should not be anywhere near combat zones but feminists could care less how she suffered. They've never actually stood for women at all.
@@thatperformer3879 Got to hate on feminists. Tell us how insecure you are.
Those of us who were around already knew the truth
Never once during that did I hear anything about a "massive gun battle" on the news or anywhere else.
I find it funny because I have heard from members of the 160th S.O.A.R. as well as Delta friends that whenever the Seal teams are in trouble regardless of size the last thing they want to see coming to rescue them are RANGERS. My brother was a member of the 1/75th, my Dad was 7th and 5th Grp during Vietnam, Dad said you wanted them for support and drinks but you did not want to be on the receiving end of their capabilities. RLTW!
I understand sending Rangers and SEALS to rescue her but why were Rangers assigned to dig up bodies? Couldn’t that have been done later by regular infantry?
Maybe but that's not what Infantry does.
Because we don't leave Americans behind, there is no "later". We recover our fallen brothers. Do you want to tell those Gold Star families with MIA soldiers "we will get the remains of your loved ones home eventually"? That's not how the American military operated in 03. 2024 is a different story. I doubt if Biden would know or care.
@jacktheaviator4938 What for delusional world do you live in where recovering a corpse is some how a priority in war? It's a nice, comfortable thought for family, but at face value, ridiculous.
@@haroldenglish943 And they couldn't trust the Engineers to not play with the bodies.
Rangers are regular infantry 🤣
I remember this story. Damn
It’s never about what really happened with politicians, it’s only about their narrative! And, if you say it enough, people will believe it!
Spit it out Ace. Accuracy brevity clarity.
Already been chewed.
Believable tale. He clearly didn’t know the big picture. TF Tarawa fought through the southern part of the city to open the route for follow on forces. They didn’t arrive until hours after the maintenance company drove through the uncleared route and was nearly destroyed. Marines continued to hold the route, they never intended to clear the city (and they weren’t “pushed out” of anything). The story of Iraqis trying to return Lynch to US forces in an ambulance and being fired on is true. The “rescue mission” happened the following day, meeting no resistance as the Iraqi Army had already fled. It was a pick up.
I was in the Marine Corps and in Nasiriyah for this debacle. We knew for weeks prior that she was in the hospital, and we patrolled past it many times….every time we’d just look and say “uh….want us to go grab her now?” There was no ‘resistance’ in that hospital.
The entire GWOT was a giant psyop.
The higher-ups in the military delayed rescuing Jessica Lynch by a day. They wanted the media to be there.
Lets not forget trauma can really twist the memory especially with the passage of time, no-one can judge her.
I didn't know Ben Affleck was a ranger
You think that’s good, go look at photos of Tom Satterly from his early days in Delta. Dude was a dead ringer for Matt Damon.
But you do know you need glasses right?
He looks more like captain America
Shhh! He needs some me time away from j-lo.🤣
Did you see Triple Frontier ...
She's the poster child for quota hire "soldiers".
True enough.
She still served the country and suffered for it, God bless her.
Army called her the car wreck victim cmh winner.
End of the day i was one of the MP's responsible for escorting convoys and doing route signing to ensure what happened to them, didnt happen. We weren't where in the places we needed to be and things like this unfolded.
8:50 Not just that, but also in a country where the religon encourages its people to rap e the infidel.
I was in this GAT Movement!! Zero Dark Thirty!!! Lights out!! Wrong turn either enemy hands or landmines😮😮😮 with the 801st 101st airborne division
I remember Donald Trump getting dumped on by the usual swamp dwellers and big media mouths when he remarked his heroes were the ones who weren’t captured.
the guy who lost to Biden said that? what a loser.
@@jarrodanderson2124 The ones behind the knee jerk bad mouthing of President Trump are invariably the grabbers who have accomplished nothing, have nothing to contribute, and want to share the wealth. With all their wisdom and a quarter you can buy a gumball. They only know how to tear down, destroy, complain, and blame somebody else. When you come across this type be sure to use lots of Airwick and flush twice.
@@jarrodanderson2124 If you were wandering the intellectual Gobi and were so easily bamboozled that you fell for Brandon, your judgement has such value that with all the wisdom it represents, and a quarter, you could buy a gumball. Carefully looking into the many triple fishy happenings in November 2020, cold facts point to Trump being the legitimate winner and the election stolen from him.
Trump is the biggest swamp dwellers. He’s the same as any politician.
Lots of medications given for pain or to induce sleep are known to cause visual or auditory hallucinations. So if PFC Lynch saw or heard something that others didn't; or was screaming, it was very possibly the drugs that either the doctors in the hospital or the Pararescue Jumpers gave her. Bear in mind that she suffered some significant injuries during the firefight .
WTF, was this dude anywhere near Nasiriyah?
1- 175 fled Nas 1d prior
2- there 3 companies of Marines in the city
3- "there wasnt a firefight" BS, i personally expended over 600rds when we attacked the republican guard compound across the street to get their troops out of the hospital.
He didn't know where it was, how many Marines were there, the only weapon platform he knew of was the 203. He's just another COD vet. After like 4 minutes I've given up on the video lol
Want to clear up some more bs:
•She wasn’t driving, in backseat
•Her 1SG didn’t take appropriate action after a break in contact
•The 1SG went right at a fork
•Went through into town, realized his mistake
•Drove right back the same way they came
•Fed Sadaam was ready now
•Her vic crashed during the ambush - HARD
•She was knocked unconscious and suffered other severe head injuries in the crash
•a small number of the ADA Soldiers fought bravely
•the main body had realized there was a break in contact, and were in a security halt, and heard the ambush
•the security element decided to head to the firefight but was ordered not to leave main body
•had to sit and listen to the fight peter out, knowing what it meant
Wait 50-60 rounds is a lot???? I usually Carried 120 just on my kit for my M-4 and another 30 in the mag in the gun itself? And 90 M-9 (2 mags on belt and 1 in the pistol)
M203 is a grenade for your launcher lol not rifle rounds.
Lmaoooo 🤡
Did the Bush administration promote that it was something it wasn’t? Honest question. I was in Afghanistan during the ground invasion of Iraq. If anyone can link some shit for me to get spun up I would be grateful. Early days of the internet and I have never heard that before. Thanks in advance
IF THE MILITARY IS TELLING THE PUBLIC SOMETHING EXPECT IT TO BE A LIE
The night of April Fools 2003. An F-14 went down from a separate mission. Busy night for the folks in Ar Ar.
And this kids is what is referred to as a "Sh!t Show."
I knew the real story back in the 2000s from some guys who were involved in her rescue. Theres so much shit I know the real events that went down and all these years later its still so surreal how our government and the DOD lies and the average citizen believes it. It really makes me despise the common citizen at such a deep level
Here Here....
How can you despise those being lied to and not the liars?
@@kdaltex The world consists of wolves and sheep. You are either the predator or the prey. It's the natural order of life.
We as humans have the gift to choose which kind of animal we are. The path of the sheep-person is a path of irresponsibility, unaccountability, and blame. The path of the wolves are one of overwhelming responsibility. Both paths are made by choice.
The sheep-people make bad personal choices and then seek a scapegoat for their cowardice. They will find every excuse in the world to convince themselves that they are innocent when in reality, they aren't innocent at all, they just refuse to learn and grow.
The difference between myself and a sheep-person is if I allow myself to be prey of another and I survive, yes, I will seek my revenge on them, but I will hold myself accountable and see what I can learn from it. The sheep-person can and does unironically walk themselves into situations that are dangerous and they never learn. They never self reflect on what they could have done differently, it's always someone else's fault.
And so I despise those being lied to because they are weak and pathetic and their pathetic nature makes them incorrigible. Their sheep morality will always prevent them from being anything other than sheep
Did they kill Bin Laden too?
@@kdaltex I had the same thought. They weren't there, so they don't know they're being lied to.
during the first extension , which my unit was extended to fight al sadrs militia, for like the first 96 hours the ROE was if theyre wearing black engage, insanity
You must have got a lot of women
That city was An-Nasariyah!
A guy from her unit told me she was a barracks bunny.
They all are
Called ground sheets in the British Army
Yea thats you standard woman in the military. I will never forget when I ask this wookie if she was going to reenlist she told me "In the Civie world I am a 4 in the Marine Corps I am a 8". But thinking more about it that sums up a lot of current American social dynamics. Sucks for the younger guys.
What the fuck does it matter. She served. She went to Iraq. She was captured due to no fault of her own. She deserved to be rescued. Al least she had the balls to go. I discharged male cowards who were finding any reason to get out of going. Fuck you for disparaging her character.
@@Daz759 We call em "Matress Backs" in the USN. lol
I saw the same when people die around you the adrenaline scrambles memories
So this is why old school vets keep repeating "Every new recruit since 2018 is a potential Lynch".
When i got to Bagdad I saw a broken water main spewing water. I got buck naked and took a bath right in the middle of the street did not care I was so dirty.
Finally someone else saying what we were telling in 03. I was in Nasiryah with 3rd Bn 2nd Mar part of Task Force Tarawa. All the hoopla over J. L. was a bunch of "hero propaganda bs"... That city was a nightmare.
We know how bad Operation Market Garden was but most people don't know about Operation Market Garbage that happened when US soldiers had to fight through mass opposition of crap and trash to rescue Jessica Lynch 😅
May have been interesting, since I’m a retired 1st and 2nd Ranger Bn guy but I just refuse to watch or listen to the constant use of “like”.
I was an OC/T at Lewis before I retired. I was the Battalion Instructor certifier. If you said "Like" or "alright" more than twice while doing certification Id kick you out of the classroom. That's how much I hate it. Transitional phrases.
Birddog is the only "pow" I have animosity toward.
I was one of the medics there, I had to carry guys, I was right there in the middle. What happened with the 30-year NDA? How come he's talking about it? He didn't have to sign one?
Though no fault of Jessica, but I remember that the press made Jessica to be like a GI Jane or Rambo like soldier, before details came out.
I was with 53th EN CO CSE , We was Supposed to get Logistics from the 507th , they was chewed up... unorganized and sloppy as it gets... It cost them....😔
They made a wrong turn.. we was building a C130 Airstrip not too far away, me being the comms chief, we ,in the toc heard about it all.. her 1sg covered her with some gear, she was out, that's about all I know..
Their was a Sgt that went out fighting , he ran outa ammo and didnt quit like a warrior..
Wasnt anything we could do..😢
Just because in military terms I called them chewed up does not mean that these was not good people they was.. lack of combat experience and training, they were logistics..
Yeah, my brother was in the 507th. A whole lot went wrong, including that wrong turn. Lack of equipment, bad communications, etc. My brother was one of the only ones in the unit with prior combat experience. He had served in the first Gulf War. He's the Sgt that you are referring to. Sgt. Donald R. Walters. Thank you for the kind words.
@@jazzninja Till Valhalla!
I’ve heard a couple different stories that she wasn’t even raped and was actually treated humanely