The MSM and Army PR lied their ass off about what happened and tried to make out Jessica was a war time hero. They wanted her to go along with it. Pressure was put on her but she would not have any of it. She would not dishonor her fellow soldiers. She told the truth from the very beginning. That makes her a very special kind of hero. Jessica, there's millions of us military vets who love you.
@@user-ff2yl3bx2sshe was a young woman being pressured in a way you have never…but tell us how it should be and how you KNOW you would do different. With never actually doing shit ever.
@WhatnotChaser Okay but that's irrelevant to the Point he's making though She's the one who went along with the story. Willingly and only recanted it when her bullshit was called out
The one thing I learned about combat…..it is nothing like the way it is depicted most of the time. There is no drama, no music, no bravado, there is fear, anticipation, anxiety, and if you are in a good group, absolute focus. Emotion is either totally suppressed or only vented in private. The thought of “ How the hell did I end up here?” Seemed pretty common to me. I never remember feeling fearful for myself, but I remember being scared to death for the friends I couldn’t immediately support. Decades later, I am still trying to make peace with the ghosts.
Donald Martin thank you for your sacrifice I believe serving your country is above all! No Congressman, President,Athlete or what have you deserves higher praise than you ,so thank you
@@robtolley1647 100%. Well put. I'm glad that 99% of our people never have to experience something like that, but at the same time yeah like you said, for those that do volunteer to run towards the bullets, there's no higher calling no greater sense of purpose, no more meaningful charity than being willing to lay your life down for your brothers, your ideals, your country
I'm sorry you have to deal with that man. If you ever need someone to talk to I can give you my phone number or email. I've never served but I want to join the army soon, and while nothing is the same as experiencing combat, I've been an addict and had severe depression so I'm not coming from a place of total ignorance anyway. Jason, the main character on an incredible show called Seal Team, describes it as footsteps. The folks he's killed, even when it was 100% justified n saved the lives of a ton of innocent people, the brothers' he's lost, people he was unable to save, friends and loved ones....their footsteps follow him and he mentions that they keep catching up. However later on in season 5 he's had enough and seen so much that on someone else's recommendation he tries San Pedro cactus (Mescaline), and like most psychedelics for folks who are willing, ready, and able, it significantly helps with his ptsd, depression, and anxiety. Didn't know if maybe you'd be interested in something like that? : ) Good luck and best wishes regardless brotha, I hope you find peace and contentment with everything, genuinely
@Alexander Smith Oh the irony of you commenting this ridiculously misogynistic and asinine drivel made me smile. Keep on being the shitbag you were intended to be to give statements such as the one above the validity it needs to give it that extra push it needs.
@Alexander Smith Lol dude, if you have a problem with soldiers only joining up for the GI Bill then you basically have a problem with almost every enlisted man or woman we have or have had since 1945.
@@reattacasarochas7286 The individuals dying on the battlefield likely often believe in their hearts they are helping and liberating the oppressed. Yes, I understand it's more complicated than that... But a hero is always a villain to someone. Also, the ants have rpgs and pkms, not the best but they're not fighting with sticks. Plus theyre in their homeland (think vietnam), and there's only so many AC-130s to go around... I'd say there are many actions worthy of 'heroism' within these parameters.
It is pretty shocking but they don't like to be called heroes even though they are. I was watching a documentary about a kid who died on his second tour. It was strange because he came back the first time and suffered from ptsd and really struggled but then reenlisted and his parents couldn't understand it. What shocked me even more was the military letting him even though he was in counseling groups. This guy was really screwed up but for some reason he just wanted to be back in the war. I consider him a hero but man if I was his parents and saw him having fits of anger, road rage, smashing up the home, then he went back and died.. Wow that is hard to process.
You went to a war based on lies. There are no heroes. I’m sorry for being harsh but we need to hold these evil men at the top accountable and stop calling the ones at the bottom heroes. Being honest about the situation is the only ethical way forward.
Andy’s stories are endlessly interesting. And they’re still not long enough. You know it’s a good pod when Joe is silent and listens. Nothing but respect for Andy.
@@NinjaSushi2 oh man couldn’t agree more. Joe is a super under rated interviewer. He knows what to ask and how to listen. Two qualities most interviewers or pod hosts can’t comprehend
@@AKinkySasquatch you are 100% correct I sub to Jocko’s channel as well but haven’t listened to Reeder or Meyer. I’ll definitely check it out. Big thanks
What shocks me the most is we men get raped to if they capture us. I figured the usual torture and head cutting off stuff but not men getting raped by other men.
Andy Stumpf was in DEVGRU for some years, until he got shot and severely wounded in combat. He’s got a hell of a story and the fact it isn’t more well known speaks volumes about his humility.
@@jackcissell9647 At one point Andy was also a white house liaison, so involved directly with targeting and deciding what goes on in the region, while still going back to do a combat rotation after this....dude is legit.
You should listen to Joe’s comments about LEO tactics and drunk drivers he made the other day w/ Weinstein when discussing Rayshard Brooks. Love his show but sometimes he tries to speak authoritatively on subjects he does not know a lot about....
@@nickcurry3051 I'm glad to hear someone who felt the same. I have no sympathy for drunk drivers. Every single drunk who gets behind the wheel of a car is a potential murderer in my eyes. Disappointing to hear Joe so dismissive of it.
Our Drill Sergeants always made sure we cleaned our weapons and said we didn’t want to be like Jessica Lynch. The real narrative has always been out there amongst the troops.
The real narrative is that in the Middle East, cleaning your weapon will only keep it clean for a short time. Realistically, the M-16 is a shit assault rifle. Jams if you look at it wrong.
I have a friend who is also a operator involved in the rescue, he had told me the same thing. And this was shortly after returning. Good news was that our team had also gotten a hold of her captors and retribution was given
I don't understand why they get to torture us when we get kidnapped but we are supposed to treat them a certain way when we kidnap them. It pisses me off when I hear about soldiers getting in trouble at home because they did something "dishonorable" to an enemy. These bs fake moral concepts are so stupid.
@@niksatt4843, It's called the Geneva Convention. As a part of the UN, the US adheres to a code of conduct. Most middle eastern countries aren't a part of that and could give two shits.
Joe Rogan is a great interviewer. Really knows how to ask a question, STFU and listen to the response. A lot of interviewers today need to watch this guy and learn from him!
@@yikes6969 Go watch a Howard Stern interview. You’ll be running back to Joe Rogan. Howard Stern should offer a class in how NOT to interview anyone because he’s fuckin’ garbage at it.
I think Joe is good at interviewing He asks short open ended questions and follows up on key parts So many get in the middle of a question then start a second question so the first question is lost.
It's the long-form format which allows for this, on TV their time is limited so they have to try to get to the nub of the story much quicker. I don't watch TV anymore because I have become spoiled by the likes of Joe Rogan, Lex Fridman and Sam Harris, there's no going back for me!
"The helicopter took 27 rounds but not a single person was even hit, it was crazy" Oh wait no, the door gunner was shot right through the head... yeah he died instantly But everyone else was good
Imagine training for years to be part of a special operations helicopter crew, get shot in the head before you even drop off the SEALS, and almost 17 years later you are a meme in the comments of the guy from fear factor's podcast.
@Colonel Silver That's life, dude. We don't have the brain capacity to remember every little life, unless we know them personally or they did something to become a legend. History is written by those who make it to the end; and for those who are lost along the way, they live on in the memories of their loved ones. So, spare me the tin foil hat anti establishment routine.
Just seeing this video now after watching a Jessica lynch documentary and this Andy guy is a hero for helping to save her. I praise all those ppl as hero's because they deserve it 100%
@@charlesadams1501 You can't blame people for wondering what happened when they burned his uniform and journal then repeatedly lied about it. So there was conspiracy just no one knows if it began before or after he was killed.
I was an army air assault infantryman with 2 dudes that went through RIP with him. They said he was a huge dick but a monster super athlete. I guess that’s what happens when you’re around highschool age kids and you’re a nfl level athlete lol. No patience.
Hearing about Jessica giving Andy a huge hug is just awesome! Went and saved a P.O.W. For his second mission. That was a great episode on “Cleared Hot”
In 2015, I worked with a guy who was also on the team that rescued Jessica. All he said was “Jessica Lynch, Jessica Lynch. Everybody wants to talk about that. Of all the missions we went on, that was one of the easier, less dangerous events.” The media hyped it up so much, it doesn’t surprise me that some know-nothings were trying to get her an MOH.
Thank you for the honesty. My uncle was a POW in Japan during WW2. Of everything said or printed about the POW experience the FACT of rape is never mentioned. People assume it for women but for men it is an unspoken horror. Thank you.
Rape is one of the most effective tools of war. I learnt about it in class. In Africa in some conflicts over there rape is used to emasculate soldiers, and some are even rejected from their communities if they have been raped. (Talking about the rape of fighting males)
@@spookyt8692 I've watched a good many presentations on the Japanese atrocities of WW2. One of the things that pisses me off is when people like to pretend that "oh, everyone does bad things in war, there was bad stuff on all sides, whatever"; all that moral relativism crap. Nah, it's pretty simple to me: whichever side has torture/rape/execution of helpless people as SOP are the bad guys. You dont have to bend your mind into a pretzel to figure that out, it's real simple. It helps explain why the Japanese didn't want to surrender. They knew that in reality they DESERVED to have something like the "rape of nanking" happen in each one of their cities. The bombs were a mercy.
@@ManDuderGuy wanna talk about the rape of German women by American soldiers after ww2? There are books about it. The numbers are horrendous. There are interesting statistics in regards to abortions being made during that time. Between 10-20% of victims kept the baby and given that number, the likely amount of rapes perpetrated by American soldiers are an embarrassment.
We were engaged in our first combat mission ever in Iraq. I was the .50cal gunner in the Humvee and I actually enjoyed the adrenaline rush and felt my training kept me very calm and focused. The training the military gives for these situations really does work and it comes when you need it most like second nature.
All jokes aside you have to have balls of steel to run a technical back then now as days we have computer commanded auto turrets with operator sitting in a control seat with monitors in the back seat of the bearcats
Jessica Lynch didn't fight to her last round and get captured. I was deployed to Tikrit during OIF-1 and got the real story in the TOC. To start off, her unit got in trouble for 2 reasons: 1. They got lost. I don't know how they managed that with all the GPS access they had and a handful of vehicles that also had Iraq maps downloaded to computers mounted in leader's vehicle,but there you go. They got off the MSR and wandered into an ambush on a tight road in a small town. Wouldn't you know they ran into the few of Saddam's forces who were still fighting. 2. She was in a Maintenance Company and they did piss-poor maintenance (on both their vehicles and weapons. They had multiple vehicle breakdown (and I assume had their mechanics working their asses off) and when it came to the fight, the survivors reported multiple weapons stoppages. You can't set up a perimeter if the best you can do is throw stones. This wasn't the soldier's fault. They didn't know anything and a soldier will try to get away with what they can. This was a failure in leadership. Even if the leadership had never been to combat, they knew the standards for Land Navigation (with a compass or with a GPS with maps.) They knew the standard for PMCS. They knew the standards for rifle maintenance and qualification. They just didn't enforce any of them. There were to heroes deserving of medals. One soldier (who'd properly cleaned his rifle returned fire until he was killed. Another returned fire even though he kept having to slam up on his magazine to seat a round and manually charge the weapon after each shot. He survived and was picked up by a QRF unit. So Jessica was driving a truck that either took disabling fire or broke down during the ambush. Soldiers were getting killed and she saw her roommate's vehicle. It was either the CDR's or 1SG's vehicle. (Y'know, the ones that got the company lost.) She got in the vehicle and had to sit in the flat middle of it. The truck crashed and Jessica received her injuries from slamming into the metal radio mounts. I believe the only survivors from that vehicle were her and the driver (her roommate...who later died from her injuries. They were taken to a hospital and we know the rest of the story from there. To Jessica's credit, once she was mobile again (and able to deal with the psychological stresses), she told the truth about her experience and put the BS Bush administration narrative about her "heroic" actions to rest. To paraphrase her, the truck she was driving broke down and she hitched a ride in another vehi that crashed. And how do I remember this? My unit was at Fort Hood prepping for deployment when this happened and we spent (at least my section - thank you MSG Favela) all the time we could ensuring our vehicles were perfect (and had extras of what we needed. He set us up for success and I looked at Jessica's Maintenance Company as an example of what NOT to do. My command and fellow NCOs made certain that our soldiers had refresher map reading, Iraq-specific map reading, were familiar with our GPS devices (to include FBCB2) and of course did all the weapons maintenance and small arms ranges we could. If we went out, we weren't going out like that. Still, Jessica and the other soldiers in her unit do deserve some credit. They went to war and put their lives at risk. That's something you won't see many civilians do even under the safest of situations.
I was in nasiriyah when all this shit went down, I over heard tons of shit over the net ( I'm fleet sat comm) you my friend may have details but they are finely skewed.
Army Pvt. 2 Ruben Estrella-Soto WAS A HERO NO ONE REMBERS. he was one who returned fire got hit and kept firing and died. THEY WHERE MY SUPPLY UINIT FOR OUTR DETACHMENT. and I hate no one remembers this hero. He was Hispanic she was white and she is the hero is utter bullshit. He took 11 shots and kept on firing.
they crouched behind the tires her and her TC. I don't blame them not everyone is cut out for this but yes I 100% can vouch for this like i said they where our supply unit.
Jessica is from a county over from my home here. I have never met her, but just want to say that I know she spent much time there at home after her experiences. While it is not materially rich, it is full of small town charm, wonderful people, beautiful countryside and very serene. Hopefully, it was a big aid in her recovery.
I’m gonna assume seeing people die instantly isn’t part of your day job and this is probably pretty shocking to you. He was probably thinking of his particular squad that didn’t get hit. The air crew isn’t always part of the same team as the ground.
Rocko 333 traumatic brain injury from multiple concussions which you get tons of during multiple combat deployments plus PTSD makes your memory shot. Not to mention the likely use of drugs and alcohol when he came home. It’s easy to forget stuff when you’re battling all this shit
He never says the guy dies when a concussion could have occurred or the gunner deflecting a bullet. But, it’s common to see so many deaths that it becomes a casualty of war.
@@ArmyHulk These SF teams are also full of a lot of infighting and bullshit PTA/HOA-esque politics. Could have just been a dude he wasn't very fond of or didnt like so he didnt really remember him. Not that it's an easy thing to forget but if you do 50 missions with a bunch of your buddies you might forget that one guy you didnt like who got shot.
It is chillingly apparent that the people who make war their aim never truly understand what a train wreck they put their soldiers through in action. To live through that and come out intact is rare indeed. Great information and interview right there.
They don’t give a damn. The true powers that be profit off of war immensely, they don’t care about Johnny private 18 years old from West Virginia. Our congressmen aren’t any better either, save for a few that have actually served… but my belief is that to make it to national level politics, you have to be somewhat corrupt in todays day and age. It’s all very sad what has become of this country. We learn about all this gender crap, political correctness, pandering to certain groups… yet the people that actually make this country successful or that sacrifice for this country are barely remembered or honored. Athletes and rappers get more attention than people who have sacrificed. It won’t be much longer until nobody learns how this country was formed, the sacrifices people gave to the country, the meaning of freedom, and so forth. They are already telling us the founding fathers are racist, that this country is only for a certain group of people, and everybody is a victim who isn’t part of that group.
Jessica showed true honor and integrity when she refuted the claims that she fought until she ran out of rounds. I know plenty of people in the army who would’ve taken that story and ran with it.
Because people are stupid,she had a severely fractured spine,broken hand,broken leg,and various other medical issues,any idiot who thinks she did any fighting would be a fool
What pissed me off about this Mitch was she was awarded, purple heart, Bronz star, my buddy who was in Fallujah battle, he was awarded the same 2 Medals, he actualy had bullet holes in his body, and had more than a dozen kills. UnFair.
@@paulhowell4433 To add onto that, now more than ever is a time where awards will be given out like candy. Due to the drawback of combat operations. Such as, Purple Hearts for concussions, CIB/CAB/CMB for IDF and some others. When I was in Iraq earlier this year. BDE put down a requirement for all combat badges to be “Performing duties during indirect fire such as seeking a shelter during an attack.” The first time we took idf. The closest mortar hit about 200-300 meters away (there were conflicting reports, they barely made the ground shake on impact) people felt they deserved their combat badge for that. I laughed and thought “well if I get it at least it’s worth promotion points.” It’s sad. The army has turned into a fashion show in regards to awards. Here’s an ARCOM for doing your job to standard. Here’s a CAB for running to a shelter during an IDF attack that was nowhere near danger close.
@@generousmitch1674 Just to put in you the "Now". They put a cap on most these awards per BDE and higher and make them very challenging to get. You can always contest your buddy award for an upgrade! Others have been trying for years to get upgraded!
@@manuelmateo3392 that guy can barely squat 200lbs. This what is called a big fish story. People that say they ruck with 100lbs for several miles are full of it. Anything north of 75lbs with full kit is break anyone. SEAL Ranger SF crossfit turd doesn't.
@@paulmeyers1940 what makes you so knowledgeable on the situation? Have you served? Are you trained in the art of war? Are you aware of what some of these gentlemen are capable off? NO? didn't think so, so stfu and thank them for their service.
@@MrAdamske lol yes. But dont take my word for it. Get a ruck put four 45lbs plats in it. Thats 180lbs with the ruck frame of 10lbs to 15lbs depending on the model. Make sure its on a desk or some place position you body to it because you not lifting it to your back unless you very strong. Then simply walk as far as you can. Im sure you'll do great. 200lbs rucking is a big fish story
Andy interviews Jessica Lynch on his podcast “Cleared Hot,” episode 45. In reference to his description of the helicopter he flew to the hospital on, he made clear in the episode that it took 27 rounds while flying in and landing. The gunner was not struck in the head until the helicopter had landed. And the gunner survived. He went on to note he (Andy) used his own jacket to wrap the gunner’s head, and after getting back to base he recalled looking out into the desert and seeing Pat Tillman (also acted on the same rescue mission and a hero in his own right) doing parachute wind sprints in the desert heat as Andy washed the jacket he used for the gunner. You can’t make this stuff up. Unbelievable.
First off, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE! I was a diesel mechanic during the 911 attacks for the US military. in 2003 the war in Iraq started, and we went from 40 hours a week to 7/12's and then 7/16s over night! After a while we all fell into routine and it was just sleep, work, work sleep. After the MOB of 2003, we were tasked for the DeMOB, of that year as well as anything that was going back. I had a 5 ton tractor come through my bay, work order was not complicated, but I brought it in anyway. As I was waiting for the air to build, I did my usual checks , and since the air was slow, I had time to see more. I was looking at the cab stuff, and noticed there were names carved in the steering wheel. It was like, Carverkia, mendezmia, joneskia. It made no sense to me, until I was about 500 feet from pulling into the shop bay I used. These weren't the actual names, but these were the names that were killed, and missing in that unit! MIA, KIA, it took a bit for me to get that! Almost immediately I started to cry, I pulled that truck into the shop, and called all the guys to it! I told them to read that wheel, and think about why we are here! That moment bonded us all to that war and too those kids we lost! Never again would I overlook anything on any vehicle I sent to that sand box! It's been almost 20 years since this, and I still cry! I cry because I may have not done enough, or I may have saved a life, or I may have not made any difference at all. But our kids did! Our kids died! And our families hurt every day because of these sacrifices! My pain is small, but it matters just as much as any other loss to this war!
Andy is legit !!!!! Most humble and honest man I got to meet personally. He was my Crossfit Level 1 instructor and till this day the best one I ever met !!!
I heard jessica lynch speak after her rescue. She stated that she laid on the floor of her vehicle and screamed. She said that she never fired her weapon at all. And the STUPID army brass gave her the Silver Star. Shameful.
"people are often in a rush to talk in an educated manner about things they know nothing about" the most accurate statement ever, especially in society today.
My unit was tasked with taking Al Nasiriya. We entered the city and drove past all of the 507th burning vehicles. We were told we were the first Americans to go in and were surprised to see destroyed American vehicles as we entered. We later learned that they were lost and separated from their main convoy (the Army’s 3 ID)and enter the city by mistake. We took our objectives and then supported the rescue. Still bummed we didn’t get their sooner.
Neal, my son was a marine then in Task Force Tarawa, and told me back then the same thing you are saying. They were pulled over between the two bridges (to enter An Nasariyah) and watched an army crew who were lost and entered the city first (when only the marines are supposed to go in first) that's when the "Jessica Lynch" saga began, after she smashed into a apc with her hummer and got busted up! Then came the capture and then the rescue. Anyhow, thanks for your service man!!!! One of the few times that I got to speak to my son was in Iraq, he told me "dad, believe very LITTLE of what you hear on the news about this war!!!!!!!!! Bad then and worse now!!!!!
Everyone should be as humble..and kick ass when needed..I'm Canadian but still thank you for your service sir.. My grandfather is retired air force Greenwood nova Scotia
Nothing but respect Mr. Stumpf. I have nothing but respect for Jessica Lynch.as well. She came out and told the truth as she remembered more and more. She brought attention to the people that died doing the very things she was alleged to have done
Thank you dude, I had to aslo. Thought maybe he was talking about a vehicle, and then I was like wtf, he said he is talking about his personal gear.. lol dudes superman
The stuff you learn from listening to gentlemen like this is immensely valuable thank you for valor and your ability to convey to us people who have absolutely no idea the levels of proximity you fellows endured thank you immensely, (and I'm a hippie lol) peace out.....
To this day as an E-8 I still argue with commanders and soldiers alike about why mechanics and cooks need to be familiar with their weapon systems, how to do map reading, and certain other soldier tasks they routinely get left out of….. Jessica’s unit was a maintenance unit, and they should have known they weren’t where they were supposed to be when they crossed a bridge. Even someone shitty at map reading should understand the significance of a bridge if they went over the route earlier (map recon) and there were no bridges on their route…
We were in Nasiriyah fighting when that went down. We recovered the bodies of the left dead in and under their convoy vehicles. I know some parts of that story leading up to her rescue. We searched for them for about a week after our route was secured. An Iraqi doctor stopped at a check point finally and told us where she was. Very very accurate about their ambulances being used to launch attacks.
@@jamess5226 it’s a great story. We lost 18 friends/ Marines that day. A lot of it was due to their convoy failing to make turn. Drove right past our tanks and tracks. We were supppsed to secure the two bridges in the town and clear the city. I’ll never forget the look on our gunny’ season face when they sped right past our a tanks and armored tracks. They drove right in the teeth of Indian country. Made it through the city without incident. When they realized their mistake their CO turned around and drove back to through the city. I imagine it gave the fedayeen and republican guard tons of confide, think that was an American direct action force. They fought like hell. I remember making it past the second bridge over sadam canal, right where they turned around, and came upon an Iraqi army barracks, HQ.Eight of our 18 Marine killed that day came at the hands of an A10. I don’t know how the didn’t see our panel markers, but they made 3 Gunn runs on us before word got to them to cease fire. The road between the two bridges became know as ambush alley. It literally looked like someone dumped hamburger meat all over the road in that two mile stretch. We would drop them in the street. When our Abraham’s came thundering down the road, there was no time to turn or dodge them. It’s surreal to this day to think about it. But after awhile they would charge us with ambulances and white taxis with orange quarter panels. A day before the rescue went down, I remember these long bearded American using civilian trucks to move around. The night of the rescue, we took up a perimeter down from the hospital. They would come out of the wood works when they heard our gunfire. So we staged a faint fire fight that night right before the rescue went down. Their CO’s mistake change our whole objective and we paid the price. Ewwww I was bitter at that woman for so long. When we got back to the states, her story was everywhere and zero about our brothers who died in that shit hole. But the ended up writing a book about it all. It’s called “Marines in theGarden of Eden’. I strongly encourage you to read that book. Remember the remains and their badass lives. Thanks for letting me share. There is so much more to the history.
@@CD-pk7xr Wow. That's an epic story and insight that you don't get often. There is nothing worse than a blue-on-blue and to lose 18 brothers that way.. that's hard to reconcile. Thanks for the book recommendation, I'll look it up. Finally, thank you for sharing this first hand account, and of course, for your service!
@@jamess5226 we only lost 7 at the hands of the A10 pilot. The rest were killed in fighting. Fog of war is real and can be very terrifying. Still, I recommend that book. I haven’t read it personally. No need to really. But I do know the author well and trust him to share the stories of our guys. Thanks for reading if you can get around to it. I’m sure there is a lot about the Lynch ordeal. It blew our minds when we got back and all the media pay it got.
@old man strength Air Force not working with marines. We had no JTAC controller. This was in 2003 so it’s not too recent. We had panel markers on our vehicle. I don’t know. I’m thinking the pilot was operating out of his area. But the fog of war is not a made up thing. Especially in the early days of Iraq invasion.
U know this guys life is crazy when he forgets that the dude next to him got shot in the head on his first mission. Like “was that on my first mission? Or was it on the one a few months later? No it has to have been the first cuz I remember it was so and so who got shot the next time”
His mind was on his team. So he is probably thinking like "nobody (in my team) got hit. Probably also a survival/defense mechanism. If he dwelt on it too much he might loose perspective or even worse.
I was flying that night (Badger 22) and basically watched it from overhead. In addition I had comms and ran high escort/CAP on the egress. The beginning of many long days and nights over in the sandbox! Thank You to all the troops on the ground who did the dirty work...
What actually happened to Jessica Lynch made her 100% worthy of honor, respect and sympathy. She rightfully earned her country's admiration and respect. The fact that the government chose to twist it 180 degrees into a completely made-up tale is disgusting. Us service members and veterans are always appalled at veterans who overstate their service or make up heroic shit that didn't happen. (Which Jessica herself did NOT do) We call it "Stolen Valor." The fact that the government itself takes part in that disgusting practice is quite disturbing. But then again, what do we expect? 🤷♂️
@@terriecotham1567 I was made to watch that stupid movie back in High School ( in the late 1960's) Me and my classmates were not very sophisticated back then but we even knew then it was crap and laughed thru the whole movie.
@@2bigbufords What's sad is some people possible thank it's real even onto days world Kind of like seeing police take someone to jail for DUI because they smell pot when there's no real test other than a ride Side stand wall and touch your nose. But Alcohol still is a dangerous drug after all just look at the Ex speaker of the house husband who went to jail Makes one wounder what some police departments are teaching the young officers If you get the time open a cold beer or not and watch policing for proffer News 5 story it's not a 15 hit peace on the police going after cash on I 40 across the state of Tennessee But a well done deep dive across the state over 2 year's if I remember right and it's one to two hours long Be safe
The convoy Lynch was in got jacked up cause you had a bunch of soldiers who had MOS's so far from being infantry that these guys were condition 4 (no mag inserted, no round in chamber, bolt forward blah blah blah) in the middle of a war warzone. When they took contact they had no idea how to handle it. There was one male soldier who returned fire and dropped a few guys but everyone else was caught with their pants down. J.L. was literally just a public relations stunt. Its pathetic and unjust how bad the story was spun that it wasn't until years later the public learned about the one guy who actually fought back (I think he was posthumously awarded a bronze or silver star with Valor device).
@@taylorfeece9248 she was most certainly abused as a POW however due to the immense trauma it's unlikely she has any memory of it (which is probably for the best)
A buddy from high school was in Blackwater at that time and claimed that they were security for the SEALS on that mission. He always said it didn't happen at all like they said on the news.
The guy that trained me in my armed security job was in Blackwater and his version was nowhere near what the news pushed. They came back as Triple Canopy and he went back as a contract negotiator and he told me that he’d bring me in when he gets settled.
There was once a time when things like Andy is talking about were kept to behind the door conversations or never spoken of again or made into folklore in a sense. The fact that he can come out and humbly depict actual events versus what was portrayed by the media and the people in power at the time sums up enough that the truth is never truly spoken of. I really appreciate men like Andy who just keep it real a don't BS the facts or talk about stuff they know nothing about. I've seen plenty of stuff in my time in the Navy that gets easily misinformed out to the public.
@@bigdeal6852 Don't think the military going "woke" has fucking thing to do low recruitment numbers low recruitment is probably more to do with the fact we just got out of 2 decades long pointless war and patriotism is at an all time low
@@michaelmayo2489 Yeah okay.....tell that to the people that resigned or were told to resign because of the Woke agenda ! Even though I will agree with you about the last two decades of war didn't help....but that's DEFINITELY not ALL of the reason. Uncle Joe's debacle withdrawal in Afghanistan didn't help either (especially leaving Americans behind and taking who knows what on planes) That lying no good puppet piece of 💩.
Eddie Bravo wad desperately trying to dial in during the podcast to tell the "real" truth of what went down in Iraq but Jamie kept hanging up on Eddie.
JR needs to have a podcast with Eddie Bravo, Jesse Ventura, the Greek guy from Ancient Aliens, Bobo from Finding Bigfoot, Bob Lazar (his new “manager” too), and Alex Jones.... just let them roll with no interruption. Now that will be some entertainment.
What a great interview, and I’m so grateful for this point of view. I could never align what I was hearing in the media and what I’d actually heard Pvt Lynch say. I knew perspective was skewed, but it’s amazing how long “sound bite media” has really been around.
@@klassky17kingklassky81 Dude looks normal these thirsty bitches are overacting there is literally nothing to be jelous about.Comment caught my eye because you can see milions of comments just like hers obssesing about age stupid stuff especially when some looks his age.
I remember my drill sgt in basic 2004 using Jessica as an example of why you need to maintain your weapon. Even in 2004, the narrative at least within the Army was “her gun jammed and she never got a shot off”. I haven’t watched the podcast with her side of the story so i don’t know if weapon maintenance played a role or not. I wonder if I was receiving some sort of inside info from my Drill Sgt now looking back. This was early 2004 too. March to May 2004
I seriously doubt her weapon was dirty from use but it could have been dirty from dust plus as a maintenance soldier who deployed in 2003 she most likely had older rounds and a M16A2 from the 80s. Maintenance units always got shitty equipment compared to combat units.
they did a investigation and tried every which way to make her weapon jam and couldnt, thats fine whatever she wants come clean but it sure dont stop her from making book and movie deals and accepting awards for heroism
From what I remember, her convoy got lost. They drove through the ambush site, realized they were lost and then proceeded to attempt driving back through the same area again when they got hit. The ambush was set up and waiting when they came back the second time. I was in a reserve Intel unit at the time. Having come from active infantry, I kept pushing my new CO for land nav and react to contact drills. Luckily, my reserve unit just got farmed out for personnel rather than deploying as a unit. As a unit, we could do the Intel jobs just fine, but anything requiring basic soldiers tasks, they were pretty chewed up. There were only 3 of us in the company with any training for anything remotely comparable. 2 ex-infantry and 1 cav scout. Everybody else just lived in the SCIF.
If her convoy got lost - what the hell happend to the security team that guards the convoy? The Commander should have been all over this. A mechanic recovery team needs to have security and a lot of it! If they had a security team with commo they could have got a feed on the town they were going through - and most towns are hostle anyway. Looks like they had bad commander and intel when they went out! BDE & Their Convoy Commander and Security should have been briefed on intel and provided the proper security and keep them on line with coms.
@@Traveler-PKK it was during the initial invasion of IRAQ before all the insurgents came out of the woodwork. They were meant to be on the MSR which was pretty secure at the time. They turned off of it. They also weren't rolling with all the extra security yet like later in the occupation. Their whole situation was FUBAR. They had no training in react to contact or ambush drills. They were just bebopping around like they were off in the back 40.
I’m guessing the pilots and something like a door gunner are separate units. So to him they didn’t lose anyone on his “team”. For him his team would be the guys he trains with for thousands.
I know this podcast was four years ago may be more, but it just goes to show that this long form podcast thing is the most important thing. And I think this guy is amazing for being honest. So much respect for this guy and also Jessica Lynch. Honesty is amazing.
@EliteJag Except he was far from "infantry", mission drives the gear train. His mission set would have been lots of quick in and out raids with lots of support. He isn't speaking for all combat troops, just what he carried in the unit he does't name.
Regarding the amount of equipment and weight he had to carry, it's interesting how each generation within the military repeat the same mistakes that was learned and forgotten. During D-Day invasion of Normandy, US soldiers who hit Omaha beach were carrying so much equipment that many drowned when their landing craft were hit and they had to jump into the water. In one of the famous footage filmed of Bloody Omaha, you can see infantrymen trying to run to cover all so slowly because of the massive weight of what they had to carry.
when there is a significant chance there will be no supply, no reinforcements, and no evac out, you pack everything humanly possible in preparation for the worst case scenario and everything you need to complete the mission.
I Remember when they rescued Jessica Lynch... they also rescued Lori Pestewa first Native American female to lose her life in a war Jessica later name here daughter after Lori
At 6:25 he starts the most bizarre misspeak I've ever heard: Not a single guy got hurt, I take it back - a guy got shot in the head and died. Jesus, dude! That took a sharp turn!
As someone who was in the area when that went down, I can say that he is being 100% accurate about the media portrayal of what really happened. I would always tell family and friends after a deployment of what really went on. Our government had a specific agenda they wanted pushed, and used the media to help facilitate it.
Tell me about look what there doing with this Election I recall we where being handed pills now take this whats this o its for X under tong and spit out they started checking under tong just give me and empi pen
I don't think the government had an agenda. A member of the executive got a little over eager on the first report on the incident and painted the event in the best light. As Stumpf suggested, people talk with certitude about things they have limited knowledge of. First reports are usually wrong and one of the first was that of a "blonde" soldier in her unit who fought heroically ( "like a lion") and the assumption (hope? ) was that it was a female soldier. Once the media got hold of that, it was off to the races.
@@MB2.0 That's how it was portrayed by the heavily left leaning media about a Republican administration who was elected while "losing" the popular vote. Just as it made a huge deal about the first sand storm and claimed it was an operational pause.
"I think that people are often in a rush to talk in an educated manner about things they know nothing about."
Brilliantly put.
This guy seems very intelligent.
*manner
Yeah it's hard to talk in an educated manner about something that didn't happen.
I don't get why people are saying he's lying, he said they didn't meet any resistance in the hospital.
Looks at Joe Rogan
So, I heard 8200lbs instead of 80 to 100. Then my brain caught up.
Me too haha
bryancurtislyles12 yeah I was like what the fuck
+1
Same
That's what I thought I heard, I was like fuck off
The MSM and Army PR lied their ass off about what happened and tried to make out Jessica was a war time hero. They wanted her to go along with it. Pressure was put on her but she would not have any of it. She would not dishonor her fellow soldiers. She told the truth from the very beginning. That makes her a very special kind of hero. Jessica, there's millions of us military vets who love you.
Did she admit that not taking care of the gun properly, brought her into this situation? I mean that whole Squad fucked it up at a certain point.
Oh please she went with it for months until journalist exposed the lie
@@SwissMarksmanno. She said she needed a bad ass fucker like you there.
@@user-ff2yl3bx2sshe was a young woman being pressured in a way you have never…but tell us how it should be and how you KNOW you would do different. With never actually doing shit ever.
@WhatnotChaser Okay but that's irrelevant to the Point he's making though She's the one who went along with the story. Willingly and only recanted it when her bullshit was called out
The one thing I learned about combat…..it is nothing like the way it is depicted most of the time. There is no drama, no music, no bravado, there is fear, anticipation, anxiety, and if you are in a good group, absolute focus. Emotion is either totally suppressed or only vented in private. The thought of “ How the hell did I end up here?” Seemed pretty common to me. I never remember feeling fearful for myself, but I remember being scared to death for the friends I couldn’t immediately support. Decades later, I am still trying to make peace with the ghosts.
God bless you
Donald Martin thank you for your sacrifice I believe serving your country is above all! No Congressman, President,Athlete or what have you deserves higher praise than you ,so thank you
@@robtolley1647 100%. Well put. I'm glad that 99% of our people never have to experience something like that, but at the same time yeah like you said, for those that do volunteer to run towards the bullets, there's no higher calling no greater sense of purpose, no more meaningful charity than being willing to lay your life down for your brothers, your ideals, your country
I'm sorry you have to deal with that man. If you ever need someone to talk to I can give you my phone number or email. I've never served but I want to join the army soon, and while nothing is the same as experiencing combat, I've been an addict and had severe depression so I'm not coming from a place of total ignorance anyway. Jason, the main character on an incredible show called Seal Team, describes it as footsteps. The folks he's killed, even when it was 100% justified n saved the lives of a ton of innocent people, the brothers' he's lost, people he was unable to save, friends and loved ones....their footsteps follow him and he mentions that they keep catching up.
However later on in season 5 he's had enough and seen so much that on someone else's recommendation he tries San Pedro cactus (Mescaline), and like most psychedelics for folks who are willing, ready, and able, it significantly helps with his ptsd, depression, and anxiety. Didn't know if maybe you'd be interested in something like that? : ) Good luck and best wishes regardless brotha, I hope you find peace and contentment with everything, genuinely
God bless you Sir!
My friend, Sgt. Don Walters, was KIA in the firefight Jessica Lynch was captured in. RIP Don
Rip
Rip
Except it was all staged
@@KungFuChess All the worlds a stage, dumbass.
@@KungFuChess He's talking about the capture not the rescue you absolute simian.
"I think people are often in a rush to talk in an educated manner of things they know nothing about".
Some platinum grade truth right there.
@Alexander Smith Oh the irony of you commenting this ridiculously misogynistic and asinine drivel made me smile. Keep on being the shitbag you were intended to be to give statements such as the one above the validity it needs to give it that extra push it needs.
@Alexander Smith Lol dude, if you have a problem with soldiers only joining up for the GI Bill then you basically have a problem with almost every enlisted man or woman we have or have had since 1945.
@Alexander Smith Incel much?
"about which they know nothing"
the media in a nutshell
Two tours, three wounds, one serious....there were many heroes no one will ever hear about, God bless them all.
They'd be heroes if there was actually any conflicts... You don't become heroes by crushing ants...
@@reattacasarochas7286 The individuals dying on the battlefield likely often believe in their hearts they are helping and liberating the oppressed. Yes, I understand it's more complicated than that... But a hero is always a villain to someone.
Also, the ants have rpgs and pkms, not the best but they're not fighting with sticks. Plus theyre in their homeland (think vietnam), and there's only so many AC-130s to go around... I'd say there are many actions worthy of 'heroism' within these parameters.
@@reattacasarochas7286 Coming from the couch potato whacking his pud.
It is pretty shocking but they don't like to be called heroes even though they are. I was watching a documentary about a kid who died on his second tour. It was strange because he came back the first time and suffered from ptsd and really struggled but then reenlisted and his parents couldn't understand it. What shocked me even more was the military letting him even though he was in counseling groups. This guy was really screwed up but for some reason he just wanted to be back in the war. I consider him a hero but man if I was his parents and saw him having fits of anger, road rage, smashing up the home, then he went back and died.. Wow that is hard to process.
You went to a war based on lies. There are no heroes. I’m sorry for being harsh but we need to hold these evil men at the top accountable and stop calling the ones at the bottom heroes. Being honest about the situation is the only ethical way forward.
The best line by Andy: "People are often in a rush to talk in an educated manner about things they know nothing about."
So true.
Agree!
basically rogans entire podcast career
Joe Rogan in a nutshell
Lol sounds like most officers I worked with
Andy’s stories are endlessly interesting. And they’re still not long enough. You know it’s a good pod when Joe is silent and listens. Nothing but respect for Andy.
Yup. But I like when Joe ask questions. He ask GREAT questions.
@@NinjaSushi2 oh man couldn’t agree more. Joe is a super under rated interviewer. He knows what to ask and how to listen. Two qualities most interviewers or pod hosts can’t comprehend
For amazing stories I highly recommend Jocko's podcast with the guys from Vietnam. Reeder and Meyer have some of the most wild stories.
@@AKinkySasquatch you are 100% correct I sub to Jocko’s channel as well but haven’t listened to Reeder or Meyer. I’ll definitely check it out. Big thanks
This dude is 42? He still looks like he's ion his 20's
All about exercise. Extends your life and keeps you younger.
@@gdubsterz1238 true but not having facial hair helps
" You! telling me ? we got a damn Dracula in here with us "
gdubsterz
It’s genetics, there’s many people that exercise daily and look old.
@@gdubsterz1238 and water... lots of water
I like dudes who can tell stories without sounding like their stroking themselves off. Enjoy listening to him.
But do you like stories ABOUT dudes stroking themselves off? Asking for a friend.
What shocks me the most is we men get raped to if they capture us. I figured the usual torture and head cutting off stuff but not men getting raped by other men.
Andy Stumpf was in DEVGRU for some years, until he got shot and severely wounded in combat. He’s got a hell of a story and the fact it isn’t more well known speaks volumes about his humility.
If they made movies about every SpecOps soldier that was wounded in action, that's all you'd watch. Wouldn't be any time for those Marvel/DC movies.
Damn had no idea was on team 6
@@jackcissell9647 At one point Andy was also a white house liaison, so involved directly with targeting and deciding what goes on in the region, while still going back to do a combat rotation after this....dude is legit.
Andy: "I think people are often in a rush to talk in an educated manner about things they know nothing about."
Joe: *sweats profusely*
You should listen to Joe’s comments about LEO tactics and drunk drivers he made the other day w/ Weinstein when discussing Rayshard Brooks. Love his show but sometimes he tries to speak authoritatively on subjects he does not know a lot about....
@@nickcurry3051 look who's talking?
Authoritatively
@@nickcurry3051 I'm glad to hear someone who felt the same. I have no sympathy for drunk drivers. Every single drunk who gets behind the wheel of a car is a potential murderer in my eyes. Disappointing to hear Joe so dismissive of it.
Luca Brasi I obviously didn’t condone speaking authoritatively- just on things that you’re not an authority on....
How many times are you fools going to repeat this line from this liar?
Our Drill Sergeants always made sure we cleaned our weapons and said we didn’t want to be like Jessica Lynch. The real narrative has always been out there amongst the troops.
It probably has been said over and over again by drills for over 100 years now. Maybe since he gun was invented.
Big factsss
My basic OSUT cycle started march 03, yeah THAT was said a lot! I carried an M4 for 6.5 years after that, not ONE malfunction.
The real narrative is that in the Middle East, cleaning your weapon will only keep it clean for a short time. Realistically, the M-16 is a shit assault rifle. Jams if you look at it wrong.
@@DepressionShaman I suggest you educate yourself some more on the M16/M4/AR-15 platform. It's not the 60s anymore.
I have a friend who is also a operator involved in the rescue, he had told me the same thing. And this was shortly after returning. Good news was that our team had also gotten a hold of her captors and retribution was given
Good.
I don't understand why they get to torture us when we get kidnapped but we are supposed to treat them a certain way when we kidnap them. It pisses me off when I hear about soldiers getting in trouble at home because they did something "dishonorable" to an enemy. These bs fake moral concepts are so stupid.
@@niksatt4843, It's called the Geneva Convention. As a part of the UN, the US adheres to a code of conduct. Most middle eastern countries aren't a part of that and could give two shits.
@@brohanfromrohan5771 I say those rules should only count with other UN countries. Only give respect where it's earned.
She was in a hospital. Did they shoot the doctors?
Joe Rogan is a great interviewer. Really knows how to ask a question, STFU and listen to the response. A lot of interviewers today need to watch this guy and learn from him!
Lol joe interrupts constantly
@@yikes6969 Go watch a Howard Stern interview. You’ll be running back to Joe Rogan. Howard Stern should offer a class in how NOT to interview anyone because he’s fuckin’ garbage at it.
@@Ditmanppi stern being bad doesnt make Rogan better. Lmao what kind of dumb logic are you on to
I think Joe is good at interviewing He asks short open ended questions and follows up on key parts So many get in the middle of a question then start a second question so the first question is lost.
It's the long-form format which allows for this, on TV their time is limited so they have to try to get to the nub of the story much quicker. I don't watch TV anymore because I have become spoiled by the likes of Joe Rogan, Lex Fridman and Sam Harris, there's no going back for me!
"The helicopter took 27 rounds but not a single person was even hit, it was crazy"
Oh wait no, the door gunner was shot right through the head... yeah he died instantly
But everyone else was good
"take %90 as truth" ;)
How do you forget that? This guy is full of shit.
@@BoshBargnani lmao you're a bot
Sad tale.
@@BoshBargnani dang, too bad there's documents to back it.
Imagine training for years to be part of a special operations helicopter crew, get shot in the head before you even drop off the SEALS, and almost 17 years later you are a meme in the comments of the guy from fear factor's podcast.
were all memes in the end
I think about this a lot. Every time i read modern warfare books. Soooo many guys trained for years to die like that. Still heroes. Just sad.
Well. that's war!
Not SEALs
@Colonel Silver That's life, dude. We don't have the brain capacity to remember every little life, unless we know them personally or they did something to become a legend. History is written by those who make it to the end; and for those who are lost along the way, they live on in the memories of their loved ones. So, spare me the tin foil hat anti establishment routine.
Just seeing this video now after watching a Jessica lynch documentary and this Andy guy is a hero for helping to save her. I praise all those ppl as hero's because they deserve it 100%
A real eye-opener; An education; This guy is so intelligent and immensely brave. Awesome courage.
This is what training does
Wow Colby Covington really pulled his act together
😂😂😂😂 I was thinking the same thing... He'd probably be bigger
Petie Ball forever no that’s Dalton from roadhouse lol
Really thought that was Colby!!
>insert colby's fake smile
Haha
Remember Pat Tillman
Every year I buy salute to solider gear.. his wife started that programn
RIP
Yep mistakenly killed by his own squad, just here before the conspiracy theorist claim they intentionally killed him
@@charlesadams1501 You can't blame people for wondering what happened when
they burned his uniform and journal then repeatedly lied about it. So there was conspiracy just no one knows if it began before or after he was killed.
I was an army air assault infantryman with 2 dudes that went through RIP with him. They said he was a huge dick but a monster super athlete. I guess that’s what happens when you’re around highschool age kids and you’re a nfl level athlete lol. No patience.
Hearing about Jessica giving Andy a huge hug is just awesome! Went and saved a P.O.W. For his second mission. That was a great episode on “Cleared Hot”
In 2015, I worked with a guy who was also on the team that rescued Jessica. All he said was “Jessica Lynch, Jessica Lynch. Everybody wants to talk about that. Of all the missions we went on, that was one of the easier, less dangerous events.” The media hyped it up so much, it doesn’t surprise me that some know-nothings were trying to get her an MOH.
That brother is no joke, I so appreciate what he has gone through.
Why? He is a corporate shill who worked to make the world more demonic.
Lucas Grey So without men like him, the world is all gumdrops and rainbows??
27 rounds, not 1 person was hit. Accept for the guy that was shot in the head...
except* ding dong
@@JoeBlow-ub1us yep, you got me.
Not one SF that guy would be an air force SOAR at the most.
pweter351 what does that have to do with anything he is still a person
@@iheelhookday1whitebelts22 for sure what I mean is the SF dont count them
Thank you for the honesty. My uncle was a POW in Japan during WW2. Of everything said or printed about the POW experience the FACT of rape is never mentioned. People assume it for women but for men it is an unspoken horror. Thank you.
Rape is one of the most effective tools of war. I learnt about it in class. In Africa in some conflicts over there rape is used to emasculate soldiers, and some are even rejected from their communities if they have been raped. (Talking about the rape of fighting males)
@@spookyt8692 I've watched a good many presentations on the Japanese atrocities of WW2. One of the things that pisses me off is when people like to pretend that "oh, everyone does bad things in war, there was bad stuff on all sides, whatever"; all that moral relativism crap.
Nah, it's pretty simple to me: whichever side has torture/rape/execution of helpless people as SOP are the bad guys. You dont have to bend your mind into a pretzel to figure that out, it's real simple.
It helps explain why the Japanese didn't want to surrender. They knew that in reality they DESERVED to have something like the "rape of nanking" happen in each one of their cities. The bombs were a mercy.
@@ManDuderGuy uh, okay? We were talking about rape being used as a tool in war and it not being discussed or aspects of it being overlooked.
@@spookyt8692 Lol, sorry for the digression/rant then. Carry on.
@@ManDuderGuy wanna talk about the rape of German women by American soldiers after ww2? There are books about it. The numbers are horrendous. There are interesting statistics in regards to abortions being made during that time. Between 10-20% of victims kept the baby and given that number, the likely amount of rapes perpetrated by American soldiers are an embarrassment.
We were engaged in our first combat mission ever in Iraq. I was the .50cal gunner in the Humvee and I actually enjoyed the adrenaline rush and felt my training kept me very calm and focused. The training the military gives for these situations really does work and it comes when you need it most like second nature.
Yeah but NSW or any SOF group loves this shit. They want to fight.
How many iraqi kids did you turn into mist?
@@johnbeans2000by his lack of response it was a lot 😂
@johnbeans2000 probably enough for you to continue enjoying all the freedoms,rights and liberties that you experience on a daily basis.
All jokes aside you have to have balls of steel to run a technical back then now as days we have computer commanded auto turrets with operator sitting in a control seat with monitors in the back seat of the bearcats
"People are often in a rush to talk in an educated manner about things they know nothing about" -Truth
Joe: *sweats profusely*
@@FlyboyHelosim 😂😂😂
@Mud Dirt
You must be talking about Drumph dirt bag. Oh my bad it's mud dirt. Sorry I didn't attend the fake Drumph University! Lol!
Especially on social media.
How many times are you fools going to repeat this line from this liar?
I want Bill Burr to do a JRE guest hosting with Young Jamie as the guest on his experiences being Young Jamie on JRE
Trivial Freedom far fetched but I like it
Bill Burr is too big of a meanie for young innocent jamie, wouldnt want him to get the Theo Von experience
@@KingShampGaming speaking of Theo Von, have him interview Jamie
Naw m8 young Jamie can throw down with the greatest
@@emerysteele yeah I like your idea better
Jessica Lynch didn't fight to her last round and get captured. I was deployed to Tikrit during OIF-1 and got the real story in the TOC.
To start off, her unit got in trouble for 2 reasons:
1. They got lost. I don't know how they managed that with all the GPS access they had and a handful of vehicles that also had Iraq maps downloaded to computers mounted in leader's vehicle,but there you go. They got off the MSR and wandered into an ambush on a tight road in a small town. Wouldn't you know they ran into the few of Saddam's forces who were still fighting.
2. She was in a Maintenance Company and they did piss-poor maintenance (on both their vehicles and weapons. They had multiple vehicle breakdown (and I assume had their mechanics working their asses off) and when it came to the fight, the survivors reported multiple weapons stoppages. You can't set up a perimeter if the best you can do is throw stones. This wasn't the soldier's fault. They didn't know anything and a soldier will try to get away with what they can. This was a failure in leadership. Even if the leadership had never been to combat, they knew the standards for Land Navigation (with a compass or with a GPS with maps.) They knew the standard for PMCS. They knew the standards for rifle maintenance and qualification. They just didn't enforce any of them.
There were to heroes deserving of medals. One soldier (who'd properly cleaned his rifle returned fire until he was killed. Another returned fire even though he kept having to slam up on his magazine to seat a round and manually charge the weapon after each shot. He survived and was picked up by a QRF unit.
So Jessica was driving a truck that either took disabling fire or broke down during the ambush. Soldiers were getting killed and she saw her roommate's vehicle. It was either the CDR's or 1SG's vehicle. (Y'know, the ones that got the company lost.) She got in the vehicle and had to sit in the flat middle of it. The truck crashed and Jessica received her injuries from slamming into the metal radio mounts. I believe the only survivors from that vehicle were her and the driver (her roommate...who later died from her injuries.
They were taken to a hospital and we know the rest of the story from there. To Jessica's credit, once she was mobile again (and able to deal with the psychological stresses), she told the truth about her experience and put the BS Bush administration narrative about her "heroic" actions to rest. To paraphrase her, the truck she was driving broke down and she hitched a ride in another vehi that crashed.
And how do I remember this? My unit was at Fort Hood prepping for deployment when this happened and we spent (at least my section - thank you MSG Favela) all the time we could ensuring our vehicles were perfect (and had extras of what we needed. He set us up for success and I looked at Jessica's Maintenance Company as an example of what NOT to do. My command and fellow NCOs made certain that our soldiers had refresher map reading, Iraq-specific map reading, were familiar with our GPS devices (to include FBCB2) and of course did all the weapons maintenance and small arms ranges we could. If we went out, we weren't going out like that.
Still, Jessica and the other soldiers in her unit do deserve some credit. They went to war and put their lives at risk. That's something you won't see many civilians do even under the safest of situations.
I was in nasiriyah when all this shit went down, I over heard tons of shit over the net ( I'm fleet sat comm) you my friend may have details but they are finely skewed.
Army Pvt. 2 Ruben Estrella-Soto WAS A HERO NO ONE REMBERS. he was one who returned fire got hit and kept firing and died. THEY WHERE MY SUPPLY UINIT FOR OUTR DETACHMENT. and I hate no one remembers this hero. He was Hispanic she was white and she is the hero is utter bullshit. He took 11 shots and kept on firing.
they crouched behind the tires her and her TC. I don't blame them not everyone is cut out for this but yes I 100% can vouch for this like i said they where our supply unit.
Military propaganda. Respekt that she told the truth of what happened later on
@@kimkristensen2816 Exactly. When was this video made Rogan? She's a hero for telling the truth!
Jessica is from a county over from my home here. I have never met her, but just want to say that I know she spent much time there at home after her experiences. While it is not materially rich, it is full of small town charm, wonderful people, beautiful countryside and very serene. Hopefully, it was a big aid in her recovery.
Lol, “I take that back, door gunner got hit right in the head.” Haha, oh yeah, there was that.
I’m gonna assume seeing people die instantly isn’t part of your day job and this is probably pretty shocking to you. He was probably thinking of his particular squad that didn’t get hit. The air crew isn’t always part of the same team as the ground.
Rocko 333 traumatic brain injury from multiple concussions which you get tons of during multiple combat deployments plus PTSD makes your memory shot. Not to mention the likely use of drugs and alcohol when he came home. It’s easy to forget stuff when you’re battling all this shit
He never says the guy dies when a concussion could have occurred or the gunner deflecting a bullet. But, it’s common to see so many deaths that it becomes a casualty of war.
@@ArmyHulk These SF teams are also full of a lot of infighting and bullshit PTA/HOA-esque politics. Could have just been a dude he wasn't very fond of or didnt like so he didnt really remember him. Not that it's an easy thing to forget but if you do 50 missions with a bunch of your buddies you might forget that one guy you didnt like who got shot.
Hey Lol, no there really isn’t. Someone gave you some bad info.
To Colby Covington
"OH, so you're a soldier now" - Nate Diaz
YellowPercocets 😆
It is chillingly apparent that the people who make war their aim never truly understand what a train wreck they put their soldiers through in action. To live through that and come out intact is rare indeed. Great information and interview right there.
They don’t give a damn. The true powers that be profit off of war immensely, they don’t care about Johnny private 18 years old from West Virginia. Our congressmen aren’t any better either, save for a few that have actually served… but my belief is that to make it to national level politics, you have to be somewhat corrupt in todays day and age.
It’s all very sad what has become of this country. We learn about all this gender crap, political correctness, pandering to certain groups… yet the people that actually make this country successful or that sacrifice for this country are barely remembered or honored. Athletes and rappers get more attention than people who have sacrificed. It won’t be much longer until nobody learns how this country was formed, the sacrifices people gave to the country, the meaning of freedom, and so forth. They are already telling us the founding fathers are racist, that this country is only for a certain group of people, and everybody is a victim who isn’t part of that group.
Jessica showed true honor and integrity when she refuted the claims that she fought until she ran out of rounds.
I know plenty of people in the army who would’ve taken that story and ran with it.
Because people are stupid,she had a severely fractured spine,broken hand,broken leg,and various other medical issues,any idiot who thinks she did any fighting would be a fool
What pissed me off about this Mitch was she was awarded, purple heart, Bronz star, my buddy who was in Fallujah battle, he was awarded the same 2 Medals, he actualy had bullet holes in his body, and had more than a dozen kills. UnFair.
@@paulhowell4433 To add onto that, now more than ever is a time where awards will be given out like candy. Due to the drawback of combat operations.
Such as, Purple Hearts for concussions, CIB/CAB/CMB for IDF and some others.
When I was in Iraq earlier this year. BDE put down a requirement for all combat badges to be “Performing duties during indirect fire such as seeking a shelter during an attack.”
The first time we took idf. The closest mortar hit about 200-300 meters away (there were conflicting reports, they barely made the ground shake on impact) people felt they deserved their combat badge for that. I laughed and thought “well if I get it at least it’s worth promotion points.”
It’s sad. The army has turned into a fashion show in regards to awards. Here’s an ARCOM for doing your job to standard. Here’s a CAB for running to a shelter during an IDF attack that was nowhere near danger close.
@@generousmitch1674 Just to put in you the "Now". They put a cap on most these awards per BDE and higher and make them very challenging to get. You can always contest your buddy award for an upgrade! Others have been trying for years to get upgraded!
@@Traveler-PKK I think this comment was meant for the other dude, yea?
Andy: I wore a MOPP suit and carried 200lbs across the desert....
Joe: Yeah but did you ever backpack hunt? Do you even eat elk?
There is no way this guy carried 200lbs of equipment. The Mountain from GOT would not last a 1 mile carrying 200lbs.
Funny enough, Andy actually does.
@@manuelmateo3392 that guy can barely squat 200lbs. This what is called a big fish story. People that say they ruck with 100lbs for several miles are full of it. Anything north of 75lbs with full kit is break anyone. SEAL Ranger SF crossfit turd doesn't.
@@paulmeyers1940 what makes you so knowledgeable on the situation? Have you served? Are you trained in the art of war? Are you aware of what some of these gentlemen are capable off? NO? didn't think so, so stfu and thank them for their service.
@@MrAdamske lol yes. But dont take my word for it. Get a ruck put four 45lbs plats in it. Thats 180lbs with the ruck frame of 10lbs to 15lbs depending on the model. Make sure its on a desk or some place position you body to it because you not lifting it to your back unless you very strong. Then simply walk as far as you can. Im sure you'll do great. 200lbs rucking is a big fish story
This must be what a good diet and constant exercise look like at 42.
bingo
And good genetics
Old age is respectfully afraid of him.
😂
Its 75% genes. Most 42 year olds who eat right and exercise still look like they are 42. Maybe 37 at best.
Andy interviews Jessica Lynch on his podcast “Cleared Hot,” episode 45.
In reference to his description of the helicopter he flew to the hospital on, he made clear in the episode that it took 27 rounds while flying in and landing. The gunner was not struck in the head until the helicopter had landed. And the gunner survived. He went on to note he (Andy) used his own jacket to wrap the gunner’s head, and after getting back to base he recalled looking out into the desert and seeing Pat Tillman (also acted on the same rescue mission and a hero in his own right) doing parachute wind sprints in the desert heat as Andy washed the jacket he used for the gunner.
You can’t make this stuff up. Unbelievable.
Thanks for filling in the blanks on that story
RiP pat Tillman. American hero and killed by the shadow government that got us into that war.
Odd because reports say Tillman was on a mission that day 250 miles away 🤨🤨🤨
He was very humble in talking about their part. They saved this soldier, and if they do nothing else in their life they are hero’s.
“Get in trouble if you lose” is an understatement
I think u mean "lose"
Haha when he said he lost his nods my stomach dropped
What’s the punishment if you do
U have to pay for em.....and they ain't cheap....if ur lucky they chalk it up as a combat loss tho
#KAG2020 Socialismisforfigs how expensive we talking?
@@turkishwhiteout a few grand at least for combat nods.
@@jpageify dam son yeah i feel the pain on that one.
This man is one bad ass operator. I have the highest amount of respect for all of our soldiers but these tier 1 dudes are unreal.
First off, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE! I was a diesel mechanic during the 911 attacks for the US military. in 2003 the war in Iraq started, and we went from 40 hours a week to 7/12's and then 7/16s over night! After a while we all fell into routine and it was just sleep, work, work sleep. After the MOB of 2003, we were tasked for the DeMOB, of that year as well as anything that was going back. I had a 5 ton tractor come through my bay, work order was not complicated, but I brought it in anyway. As I was waiting for the air to build, I did my usual checks , and since the air was slow, I had time to see more. I was looking at the cab stuff, and noticed there were names carved in the steering wheel. It was like, Carverkia, mendezmia, joneskia. It made no sense to me, until I was about 500 feet from pulling into the shop bay I used. These weren't the actual names, but these were the names that were killed, and missing in that unit! MIA, KIA, it took a bit for me to get that! Almost immediately I started to cry, I pulled that truck into the shop, and called all the guys to it! I told them to read that wheel, and think about why we are here! That moment bonded us all to that war and too those kids we lost! Never again would I overlook anything on any vehicle I sent to that sand box! It's been almost 20 years since this, and I still cry! I cry because I may have not done enough, or I may have saved a life, or I may have not made any difference at all. But our kids did! Our kids died! And our families hurt every day because of these sacrifices! My pain is small, but it matters just as much as any other loss to this war!
If anyone would like to find the podcast where he talks to Jessica Lynch, search "cleared hot, episode 45"
Andy is legit !!!!! Most humble and honest man I got to meet personally. He was my Crossfit Level 1 instructor and till this day the best one I ever met !!!
Sooo proud of our soldiers and veterans. Their service is untouchable.
What about them makes you proud?
@@cj1871 you are a stupid pos. I suggest you put on a uniform and stand a post you goofy ass
I heard jessica lynch speak after her rescue. She stated that she laid on the floor of her vehicle and screamed. She said that she never fired her weapon at all. And the STUPID army brass gave her the Silver Star. Shameful.
"people are often in a rush to talk in an educated manner about things they know nothing about" the most accurate statement ever, especially in society today.
Leisure Gaming he’s talking about himself
You know nothing, jon snow
Pretty much everyone in TH-cam comments
My unit was tasked with taking Al Nasiriya. We entered the city and drove past all of the 507th burning vehicles. We were told we were the first Americans to go in and were surprised to see destroyed American vehicles as we entered. We later learned that they were lost and separated from their main convoy (the Army’s 3 ID)and enter the city by mistake. We took our objectives and then supported the rescue. Still bummed we didn’t get their sooner.
Unfortunately I do remember that’s. What unit were you? I was 2/8 task force tarawa
Neal, my son was a marine then in Task Force Tarawa, and told me back then the same thing you are saying. They were pulled over between the two bridges (to enter An Nasariyah) and watched an army crew who were lost and entered the city first (when only the marines are supposed to go in first) that's when the "Jessica Lynch" saga began, after she smashed into a apc with her hummer and got busted up! Then came the capture and then the rescue. Anyhow, thanks for your service man!!!! One of the few times that I got to speak to my son was in Iraq, he told me "dad, believe very LITTLE of what you hear on the news about this war!!!!!!!!! Bad then and worse now!!!!!
Everyone should be as humble..and kick ass when needed..I'm Canadian but still thank you for your service sir..
My grandfather is retired air force Greenwood nova Scotia
Nothing but respect Mr. Stumpf. I have nothing but respect for Jessica Lynch.as well. She came out and told the truth as she remembered more and more. She brought attention to the people that died doing the very things she was alleged to have done
2:45 I had to listen to this three times before I realized he was saying 80-100lbs instead of 8200lbs.
Yup
Thank you dude, I had to aslo. Thought maybe he was talking about a vehicle, and then I was like wtf, he said he is talking about his personal gear.. lol dudes superman
Same here lol
yep, me too.
Same! I was like 8200 pounds are you carrying a tank?!
So high speed that he didn’t tie his NODs down
No drag
The stuff you learn from listening to gentlemen like this is immensely valuable thank you for valor and your ability to convey to us people who have absolutely no idea the levels of proximity you fellows endured thank you immensely, (and I'm a hippie lol) peace out.....
To this day as an E-8 I still argue with commanders and soldiers alike about why mechanics and cooks need to be familiar with their weapon systems, how to do map reading, and certain other soldier tasks they routinely get left out of….. Jessica’s unit was a maintenance unit, and they should have known they weren’t where they were supposed to be when they crossed a bridge. Even someone shitty at map reading should understand the significance of a bridge if they went over the route earlier (map recon) and there were no bridges on their route…
Wasn't a woman driving?
@clydefrog203 doesn't fall on the driver, TC in the right seat is usually in control of the vehicle
Shouldn't have women in those jobs at all. if they want to do clerical work back in the homeland, or be nurses, so be it, but nowhere near combat.
We were in Nasiriyah fighting when that went down. We recovered the bodies of the left dead in and under their convoy vehicles. I know some parts of that story leading up to her rescue. We searched for them for about a week after our route was secured. An Iraqi doctor stopped at a check point finally and told us where she was. Very very accurate about their ambulances being used to launch attacks.
Good insight. Thank you.
@@jamess5226 it’s a great story. We lost 18 friends/ Marines that day. A lot of it was due to their convoy failing to make turn. Drove right past our tanks and tracks. We were supppsed to secure the two bridges in the town and clear the city. I’ll never forget the look on our gunny’ season face when they sped right past our a tanks and armored tracks. They drove right in the teeth of Indian country. Made it through the city without incident. When they realized their mistake their CO turned around and drove back to through the city. I imagine it gave the fedayeen and republican guard tons of confide, think that was an American direct action force. They fought like hell. I remember making it past the second bridge over sadam canal, right where they turned around, and came upon an Iraqi army barracks, HQ.Eight of our 18 Marine killed that day came at the hands of an A10. I don’t know how the didn’t see our panel markers, but they made 3 Gunn runs on us before word got to them to cease fire. The road between the two bridges became know as ambush alley. It literally looked like someone dumped hamburger meat all over the road in that two mile stretch. We would drop them in the street. When our Abraham’s came thundering down the road, there was no time to turn or dodge them. It’s surreal to this day to think about it. But after awhile they would charge us with ambulances and white taxis with orange quarter panels. A day before the rescue went down, I remember these long bearded American using civilian trucks to move around. The night of the rescue, we took up a perimeter down from the hospital. They would come out of the wood works when they heard our gunfire. So we staged a faint fire fight that night right before the rescue went down. Their CO’s mistake change our whole objective and we paid the price. Ewwww I was bitter at that woman for so long. When we got back to the states, her story was everywhere and zero about our brothers who died in that shit hole. But the ended up writing a book about it all. It’s called “Marines in theGarden of Eden’. I strongly encourage you to read that book. Remember the remains and their badass lives. Thanks for letting me share. There is so much more to the history.
@@CD-pk7xr Wow. That's an epic story and insight that you don't get often. There is nothing worse than a blue-on-blue and to lose 18 brothers that way.. that's hard to reconcile. Thanks for the book recommendation, I'll look it up. Finally, thank you for sharing this first hand account, and of course, for your service!
@@jamess5226 we only lost 7 at the hands of the A10 pilot. The rest were killed in fighting. Fog of war is real and can be very terrifying. Still, I recommend that book. I haven’t read it personally. No need to really. But I do know the author well and trust him to share the stories of our guys. Thanks for reading if you can get around to it. I’m sure there is a lot about the Lynch ordeal. It blew our minds when we got back and all the media pay it got.
@old man strength Air Force not working with marines. We had no JTAC controller. This was in 2003 so it’s not too recent. We had panel markers on our vehicle. I don’t know. I’m thinking the pilot was operating out of his area. But the fog of war is not a made up thing. Especially in the early days of Iraq invasion.
"I think people are often in a rush to talk in an educated manner about things they know nothing about." -Andy Stumpf 2020
I'm writing that one down.
How many times are you fools going to repeat this line from this liar?
Eric Woods simp
@@ericwoods6286 100 times more than I'll listen to "Eric Woods" LMAO
What an incredibly brave, and well spoken man! Also, he's absolutely gorgeous! Thank you, for your service! 🇺🇸
Thanks to all the men and women who served, heroes everyone!
Rogan has the most interesting guests
U know this guys life is crazy when he forgets that the dude next to him got shot in the head on his first mission. Like “was that on my first mission? Or was it on the one a few months later? No it has to have been the first cuz I remember it was so and so who got shot the next time”
Hes full of shit.
@John Samson no he died instantly
His mind was on his team. So he is probably thinking like "nobody (in my team) got hit.
Probably also a survival/defense mechanism. If he dwelt on it too much he might loose perspective or even worse.
@@gambyblaire4445 yeah cause he as lol. More like full of shit.
@@KneeoGeeo who are you to fucking judge
I love how no matter what Joe’s videos are covering he’s always amazed about everything being said 😂
Respect to all of our Military brothers and sisters!!! Thank you so much we will never forget
I once worked with one of the pilots who was there, Chief Williams. He told us his story, from when he was shot down to the rescue.
Deep Creek Chesapeake Kid
I was flying that night (Badger 22) and basically watched it from overhead. In addition I had comms and ran high escort/CAP on the egress. The beginning of many long days and nights over in the sandbox! Thank You to all the troops on the ground who did the dirty work...
Cool. John from Warrior Poet Society here on TH-cam helped on the Lynch Mission as well.
What actually happened to Jessica Lynch made her 100% worthy of honor, respect and sympathy. She rightfully earned her country's admiration and respect. The fact that the government chose to twist it 180 degrees into a completely made-up tale is disgusting. Us service members and veterans are always appalled at veterans who overstate their service or make up heroic shit that didn't happen. (Which Jessica herself did NOT do) We call it "Stolen Valor." The fact that the government itself takes part in that disgusting practice is quite disturbing. But then again, what do we expect? 🤷♂️
Still, she should never have been there in the first place.
Well said
Just look at the movie call [ Reefer Madness] ? Spelling on the effects of pot
@@terriecotham1567 I was made to watch that stupid movie back in High School ( in the late 1960's) Me and my classmates were not very sophisticated back then but we even knew then it was crap and laughed thru the whole movie.
@@2bigbufords
What's sad is some people possible thank it's real even onto days world
Kind of like seeing police take someone to jail for DUI because they smell pot when there's no real test other than a ride Side stand wall and touch your nose.
But Alcohol still is a dangerous drug after all just look at the Ex speaker of the house husband who went to jail
Makes one wounder what some police departments are teaching the young officers
If you get the time open a cold beer or not and watch policing for proffer News 5 story it's not a 15 hit peace on the police going after cash on I 40 across the state of Tennessee
But a well done deep dive across the state over 2 year's if I remember right and it's one to two hours long
Be safe
I remember seeing the live footage on Al Jazerra when I was stationed in Italy. Hours before our media decided to cover it.
"I lost my nads" "what's nads?" "nighvision googles" Me: phew!
Nodds*
Dustin F NODs night optic device
@@aaronsmith9092 I thought I was adding an extra d. It's been about 6 years since I was in lol.
Aaron Smith *s...if we’re gonna play petty.
Nodds
You should ask about Tillman
The convoy Lynch was in got jacked up cause you had a bunch of soldiers who had MOS's so far from being infantry that these guys were condition 4 (no mag inserted, no round in chamber, bolt forward blah blah blah) in the middle of a war warzone. When they took contact they had no idea how to handle it. There was one male soldier who returned fire and dropped a few guys but everyone else was caught with their pants down. J.L. was literally just a public relations stunt. Its pathetic and unjust how bad the story was spun that it wasn't until years later the public learned about the one guy who actually fought back (I think he was posthumously awarded a bronze or silver star with Valor device).
Episode 45 of cleared hot is the lynch interview
Andy made it sound like she was abused in this episode. But yet on cleared Hot she has zero recollection of that happening?
How was it?
@@taylorfeece9248 she was most certainly abused as a POW however due to the immense trauma it's unlikely she has any memory of it (which is probably for the best)
Taylor feece repressed. Happens all the time to rape victims
A buddy from high school was in Blackwater at that time and claimed that they were security for the SEALS on that mission. He always said it didn't happen at all like they said on the news.
The guy that trained me in my armed security job was in Blackwater and his version was nowhere near what the news pushed. They came back as Triple Canopy and he went back as a contract negotiator and he told me that he’d bring me in when he gets settled.
They had no residence at all saving her they stormed a hospital and made it look like it was a special op.
Yeah worked with a guy who was on the rescue mission to help save her...said the same thing.
If I remember correctly, Lawrence of Arabia talked in his book about males getting raped in captivity. Animaux!
There was once a time when things like Andy is talking about were kept to behind the door conversations or never spoken of again or made into folklore in a sense. The fact that he can come out and humbly depict actual events versus what was portrayed by the media and the people in power at the time sums up enough that the truth is never truly spoken of. I really appreciate men like Andy who just keep it real a don't BS the facts or talk about stuff they know nothing about. I've seen plenty of stuff in my time in the Navy that gets easily misinformed out to the public.
@DJ
That's because half the problem is the Military has gone woke and politically correct.
@@bigdeal6852 that and and getting involved in wars most people don’t/didnt believe in. Listen to most vets talk about Iraq.
@@bigdeal6852 Don't think the military going "woke" has fucking thing to do low recruitment numbers low recruitment is probably more to do with the fact we just got out of 2 decades long pointless war and patriotism is at an all time low
@@michaelmayo2489
Yeah okay.....tell that to the people that resigned or were told to resign because of the Woke agenda ! Even though I will agree with you about the last two decades of war didn't help....but that's DEFINITELY not ALL of the reason. Uncle Joe's debacle withdrawal in Afghanistan didn't help either (especially leaving Americans behind and taking who knows what on planes) That lying no good puppet piece of 💩.
Eddie Bravo wad desperately trying to dial in during the podcast to tell the "real" truth of what went down in Iraq but Jamie kept hanging up on Eddie.
JR needs to have a podcast with Eddie Bravo, Jesse Ventura, the Greek guy from Ancient Aliens, Bobo from Finding Bigfoot, Bob Lazar (his new “manager” too), and Alex Jones.... just let them roll with no interruption. Now that will be some entertainment.
What a great interview, and I’m so grateful for this point of view. I could never align what I was hearing in the media and what I’d actually heard Pvt Lynch say. I knew perspective was skewed, but it’s amazing how long “sound bite media” has really been around.
I seen you guys come in to get her I was just south of there. Respect!!
What a cool dude. Thanks for your service sir! Also Joe asks the perfect questions, really is such a great interviewer.
Wow, he looks great for 42.
This obssesion about age is something else especially when someone looks his age.
He looks 42 nothing wow about it.
man's wearing a hat, can't be trusted
@@kayakisgod as a bald 24 year old man, I agree with this. If someone sees my head they think im 59
@@bratmojmojbrat7727 im sure you don't or wont look very good at 42 lol jealous a tone very easily heard over the internet buddy
@@klassky17kingklassky81 Dude looks normal these thirsty bitches are overacting there is literally nothing to be jelous about.Comment caught my eye because you can see milions of comments just like hers obssesing about age stupid stuff especially when some looks his age.
"I dropped 240 pounds." - Andy.
"Oh, so you left your wife." - Joe.
God bless the 🇺🇸 and it's Dependapotomus
I remember my drill sgt in basic 2004 using Jessica as an example of why you need to maintain your weapon. Even in 2004, the narrative at least within the Army was “her gun jammed and she never got a shot off”. I haven’t watched the podcast with her side of the story so i don’t know if weapon maintenance played a role or not. I wonder if I was receiving some sort of inside info from my Drill Sgt now looking back. This was early 2004 too. March to May 2004
I seriously doubt her weapon was dirty from use but it could have been dirty from dust plus as a maintenance soldier who deployed in 2003 she most likely had older rounds and a M16A2 from the 80s. Maintenance units always got shitty equipment compared to combat units.
they did a investigation and tried every which way to make her weapon jam and couldnt, thats fine whatever she wants come clean but it sure dont stop her from making book and movie deals and accepting awards for heroism
From what I remember, her convoy got lost. They drove through the ambush site, realized they were lost and then proceeded to attempt driving back through the same area again when they got hit. The ambush was set up and waiting when they came back the second time.
I was in a reserve Intel unit at the time. Having come from active infantry, I kept pushing my new CO for land nav and react to contact drills. Luckily, my reserve unit just got farmed out for personnel rather than deploying as a unit. As a unit, we could do the Intel jobs just fine, but anything requiring basic soldiers tasks, they were pretty chewed up. There were only 3 of us in the company with any training for anything remotely comparable. 2 ex-infantry and 1 cav scout. Everybody else just lived in the SCIF.
If her convoy got lost - what the hell happend to the security team that guards the convoy? The Commander should have been all over this. A mechanic recovery team needs to have security and a lot of it! If they had a security team with commo they could have got a feed on the town they were going through - and most towns are hostle anyway. Looks like they had bad commander and intel when they went out! BDE & Their Convoy Commander and Security should have been briefed on intel and provided the proper security and keep them on line with coms.
@@Traveler-PKK it was during the initial invasion of IRAQ before all the insurgents came out of the woodwork. They were meant to be on the MSR which was pretty secure at the time.
They turned off of it. They also weren't rolling with all the extra security yet like later in the occupation.
Their whole situation was FUBAR. They had no training in react to contact or ambush drills. They were just bebopping around like they were off in the back 40.
I watched this from the air live. Amazing in and out.
"no one got hurt...no wait dude actually got his brains blown out next to me"
Yeah that was a bit of a weird one right
Don’t quote him if that’s not exactly what he said.
I’m guessing the pilots and something like a door gunner are separate units. So to him they didn’t lose anyone on his “team”. For him his team would be the guys he trains with for thousands.
Sir, Thank you for sharing your experience in rescuing Pvt. Lynch, your a true hero in my book.
how could anyone not applaud this soldiers bravery
This is Colby Covington from a different multiverse
Colby "order" Covington
Colby with a brain...
Thank you for your service, Mr. Stumpf. GOD BLESS AMERICA. 🇺🇸
What a solid fucking human! Well-spoken, humble, knowledgeable... This is why I watch Joe Rogan.
I know this podcast was four years ago may be more, but it just goes to show that this long form podcast thing is the most important thing. And I think this guy is amazing for being honest. So much respect for this guy and also Jessica Lynch. Honesty is amazing.
4 magazines just tells me he’s extremely confident in his teams ability..
150 rounds in total can go a long ways.
@Dick Fageroni If you have to resort to a sidearm, things have definitely turned to shit.
Dick Fageroni I served, but thanks. All up to preference I’d rather have more than I need.
@EliteJag Except he was far from "infantry", mission drives the gear train. His mission set would have been lots of quick in and out raids with lots of support. He isn't speaking for all combat troops, just what he carried in the unit he does't name.
my policy unless over ruled ,was something to keep dry warm water and rounds if it did not do that I lost it oh com as well
It's sad to see him process the horrifying things hes remembering
@GuildBankLooter Dog no
haha civilians
So fortunate it is to have Americans like Andy.
Regarding the amount of equipment and weight he had to carry, it's interesting how each generation within the military repeat the same mistakes that was learned and forgotten. During D-Day invasion of Normandy, US soldiers who hit Omaha beach were carrying so much equipment that many drowned when their landing craft were hit and they had to jump into the water. In one of the famous footage filmed of Bloody Omaha, you can see infantrymen trying to run to cover all so slowly because of the massive weight of what they had to carry.
when there is a significant chance there will be no supply, no reinforcements, and no evac out, you pack everything humanly possible in preparation for the worst case scenario and everything you need to complete the mission.
Dude looks like an airbrushed joe rogan
And Colby Covington
🤣🤣
Colby Covington
I Remember when they rescued Jessica Lynch... they also rescued Lori Pestewa first Native American female to lose her life in a war Jessica later name here daughter after Lori
Brando Black not rescued, body recovered
You can't rescue dead people .
Gotcha thanks
At 6:25 he starts the most bizarre misspeak I've ever heard: Not a single guy got hurt, I take it back - a guy got shot in the head and died.
Jesus, dude! That took a sharp turn!
"i think people are often in a rush to talk about things they know nothing about" 2020 in a single quote
You messed up the quote lol
As someone who was in the area when that went down, I can say that he is being 100% accurate about the media portrayal of what really happened.
I would always tell family and friends after a deployment of what really went on. Our government had a specific agenda they wanted pushed, and used the media to help facilitate it.
Tell me about look what there doing with this Election I recall we where being handed pills now take this whats this o its for X under tong and spit out they started checking under tong just give me and empi pen
I don't think the government had an agenda. A member of the executive got a little over eager on the first report on the incident and painted the event in the best light. As Stumpf suggested, people talk with certitude about things they have limited knowledge of.
First reports are usually wrong and one of the first was that of a "blonde" soldier in her unit who fought heroically ( "like a lion") and the assumption (hope? ) was that it was a female soldier. Once the media got hold of that, it was off to the races.
Right, If he media was actually lying to us all back then, can you imagine now!!!!
@@Darling137 they wanted to increase support for the war
@@MB2.0 That's how it was portrayed by the heavily left leaning media about a Republican administration who was elected while "losing" the popular vote.
Just as it made a huge deal about the first sand storm and claimed it was an operational pause.