Farmertec JonCutter 4500 UnBoxing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ม.ค. 2019
- The G4500 arrived before I thought it would. Well no better time than the present. This appears to be a good saw so far.
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I'm really liking this one. I just got the 105cc 070 clone and I love it. I really enjoy your videos on these saws. Keep up the good work.
The 38cc is a split mag case in a glass fiber reinforced frame for weight reduction. Brilliant design at the time. All of the Redmax saws absolutely ripped. I'm ordering both tonight to tinker on and add to my pile of Chinese Redmax clones. The plastics on these seem good.
Just got my 4500 today and love it!!!!
Great video uncle Cy.
Uncle Cy, you could open a saw retail shop with all those saws. Uncle Cy the KING OF POWERSAWS. I like those outboard clutches, I have those of my Husqvarna 340 and 350. Easy to get to like you said. A good liming and bucking saw. If I was a professional faller, which I'm NOT. I'd go with the inboard clutches, a lot easier to take the power head off, in case the bar got stuck, I'm sure. Always good to keep some felling wedges around even when bucking big girth logs.
Man it was obvious what you were doing with the handling of the saw for the tests. People are just crazy. This one seems good out of the box.
Some people are out of control on their "safety" mantra, crazy
Not crazy, just don't understand what the purpose of that action is and possibly/probably jump to conclusions, which is very un-crazy as far as human traits go.
Cy I think I recognize that Forester Bar ? Hahaha : ) This 4500 looks alot like my 1999-
2000 353 Husqvarna that I still have and love it! Your videos are the best won't miss any
of them.
Thanks for posting
It looks like husqvarna saw. I have one and it runs wery well. Thanks for sharing video
I just got the 5800 joncutter. I also got the recommended 20" bar chain combo which is 3/8 pitch, 0.058 gauge, 68 dl. But the instruction booklet calls for a .325 pitch. I installed anyway and eferything seems to operate ok. Didn't pull the sprocket off to check what pitch it is for sure. Impressed so far with power and operation.
.325 is 3/8
Levi Fullam no. Simple math, .325 is simply .325. 3/8 is .375.
The Chinese cs4500 I have that looks almost identical takes a 19mm or 3/4 inch rim sprocket.
It came with 3/8lp but I switched it to .325 as I had a bunch of .325 bars/chains and the 3/8lp was shot. I've since switched it back to 3/8lp with a 14 inch Chinese 018 or 025 bar, the chain that came with the bar was too short tho, it needed a 52 link chain which I had a bunch of. Anyways the jist of this is the saw is quite a bit faster with 3/8lp and the Chinese 018 bars have almost the same size tip as the .325 bars not the tiny ones like poulan bars.
Looks like the Timberpro CS6150 that I have. I love it! However, I am not thrilled with the air filter (same as yours), do you know if there is a better upgraded filter we can use on our saws?
i good job reviewing again sy! is this a husqvarna type bar or stihl? i have a stihl .325 bar and chain but cant use on the g388. also do you know if you can change sprokets from 3/8 to .325? i was looking at the 58cc JonCutter Gasoline Chainsaw
I just ordered a couple of hours ago the huztl 372xp clone. I'm quite excited to see how it does compared to my old beat up 372xp
If you got the old school non x torc.. it probably will out run your old 372. My 372 xp holtsforma runs great.. single ring
That's a match for my 45cc Blue Max . Chain tighens from the side about only difference
Blue max is also a Zenoah Clone so that make sense
@@DIYwithUncleCy The throttle lock a little cheap. Treat it nice or I think it will break. Lest ways on the Blue Max it is.
Nice I like it.
What fuel ratio mixture did you use? For this saw and the 660.
I heard 25:1. I normally run 50:1 on my husky and stihl saws
Redmax/zenoah use gz designation for strato charged saws and g for non strato saws.
what u think is better the jon cutter g4500 or the farmetec holzfforma g255 the ms250 stihl clone
or about the same
Can you show how to adjust the oil flow on the chainsaw
Maybe use a smear of gasket sealer to glue that gasket to the air cleaner on the 3800 so it doesn't fall off?
Cy, do you find this saw oils and clears chips and debris from the clutch area well? I picked up one to use for fence row cleanup; specifically areas where there was a good chance of leaves, dirt and trash that could be processed by the chain (wanted to exclude my newer Husqvarna's from this torture) and it seems to just soak everything in oil, mulch it all up together, and pack it in the clutch cover. I was curious if you have used this saw in similar conditions, with similar results?
I have not had it do that to me. This saw does have an adjustable oiler and comes set high. You may be able to turn it down a bit so not as much oil comes out and that may at least reduce the problem.
@@DIYwithUncleCy I was considering turning it down. I am running a 16" Woodland Pro TimberMax Lite bar on it; it could be over oiling some. I like the saw so far and will see how it holds up.
Are you still running yours at 25:1? There is no non-ethanol fuel to be found around here so I use the VP SEF for all of my 2-Strokes and I am considering 40:1 after about a gallon at 25:1...
After seeing the 4500 I believe I’d rather have it than the 3800 .
I think it is a better design, but I am still messing around with both of them, to see how they top out.
DIY with Uncle Cy , Yes , they are still new and tight so it’s gonna take some hours running both to get a real idea on how they preform.
I dream of à Husky 390xp clone after seeing that . Please Farmertec 🙏
I got one of these and parts are hard to find,might as well get the G255 instead.
Just order from hutzl online
Makes for a good video? Looks like it's nice and light too?
Why do they sell a saw without a chain with it other then that seems to run real good. Good job
Were you able to find a rim sprocket for your yuzhoukee to get it to a 3/8 I haven't been able to find one that fits properly.
You mean for the 105cc, yes. I bought a rimdrive sprocket for an 070 once you have that you can put any gauge of rim on it that fits the rim drive splines. I have a 7 tooth .404 and a an 8 tooth 3/8 for it now.
Sorry should of specified the yz6200
Could use some help with warranty service. Both 38cc and 45cc saws showed up broken. I would have also ordered the 58 as well as the 660 and 372 kits id they had answered the many messages I sent. Now they're not replying to my warranty inquiries. True to form with China businesses sadly. At this point its probably best to buy Chinese stuff from domestic sellers.
File a dispute with your credit card company. That always gets things rectified one way or another.
I was eyeing the JonCutter G5800 when I was pricing parts for my Husqvarna 570. Which I'm still thinking about buying parts for from there. But their checkout setup is kind of confusing, they really seem to have a thing for PayPal, which I don't use. Even though I have an account from eon's ago.
You do not need a paypal account to pay them with paypal. It just means your Credit Card is processed by paypal. Giving you the PayPal terms of service, meaning if something goes wrong like you never receive the purchase you can get your $ back.
Did you pick one of these up? I was looking at the G5800 too. I would like to test one out.
@@mjengland1 No, I only just started doing some temp work. So any money I've gotten has gone to needed things. But when I have the extra I'd still like to get one as well as the parts for my 570. Cy will probably get one and review it before I'm able to guy one. :)
What brand and model is this saw a clone of?
The Zenoah G4500.
So it doesn't have spurs?
I noticed you put the bucking teeth on the g2500 but not the g4500. Not sure why.
Just forgot to put them on. Did so after the video. And the Bucking teeth on the 2500 are very small so are not in the way and are still there when it is handy.
Wow @01:49
Is this using Husqvarna bar mount (edit: I mean K041) ? I have plenty of those
Also, Would you really buy the Farmertec chains, do they stay sharp? Chinese saw chain doesn't have a good reputation
Good question. Most tempered steel i have used from china has been decent. Soft steel or mild steel ,different story. It tends to have blow outs when cutting and welding. Bethlehem Pa is the best quality steel . I was pricing car trailers today. I custom new Chinese steel trailer was the same price as a 78 usa trailer. The 78 was almost 1,000 lbs lighhter and max cap.was 2000 lbs higher. Compared with Chinese steel new production. Tool steel is much different than industrial.
Should be K041
@@wnessnol My bad you're right, K095 is 3/8 which is my other saw
@@walliehart2055 I'm in Australia and have a friend who has a chainsaw business, he started selling "Archer Australia" chain which is made in China and was supposed to be good. Plenty of people on Arborist Site said it was ok. He stopped selling it because people started bringing it back, the quality was inconsistent, some was "ok" and the rest not so much. If an Australian company manufacturing in China and trying to get it right, can't, then I'm doubtful that most other chain is better. For chain I'll stick with Stihl, the new Husqvarna or Carlton.
I use the old stock Archer chain and it is decent. Best hand filed and try not to burn it up real bad and it works just fine.
I got 200' for about $230 and it was well worth it. If you're good to your chains and don't let them get destroyed before you sharpen it there should be no problems.
How about reviewing the 25.4cc JonCutter Prowler Puppy?
We will see. I asked them about it.
Not a saw I need but will admit I am curious about it.
@@DIYwithUncleCy Awesome. I am interested in it but would like to see a review before purchasing.
Are these as good as an Echo is the same size? I'm curious....
I have limited experience with Echo. But the bit I do have makes me think they are quite comparable. My friend has an echo, I will see if he will let me borrow it and make a direct comparison.
DIY with Uncle Cy Thanks!
Looks like my husky 345
I’m not as much interested in the JonCutter stuff because they don’t seem as easy to cross reference for parts like the Stihl and Husky clone models. Would love to see a G366, G255, and G372 review.
Take a look at my farmertec playlist. The G255 is on there but haven't got the other two you listed....yet LOL
do you think you'll do one on the 5800 lol?
They haven't offered yet but if they do I will.
Do you know if the 5800 one uses the husqvarna bar mount I’d buy one right now if I know my bar and chain from my 385 would fits it’s a 24” 3/8 .058 but not should the bar mount is the same size or if the oil hole lines up
Hey CY, have a question for you. I purchased the Jon Cutter g5800. Im wanting a little bit shorter bar than the 18 your using. Id like to purchase an Oregon from Amazon. How do i know that the Oilers will line up with a certain bar? Thanks for your help.
Good one, and I actually know this one LOL. The G5800 and its two smaller brothers are Zenoa Clones, The Zenoa saws just happen to be a perfect match to Husqvarna bars. Do check to be sure you get the proper pitch of chain to match the saw though.
@@DIYwithUncleCy awesome man thanks, I'll probably cancel my Oregon bar then. Look forward to your review on your Jon Cutter.
One more quick question, is the gauge crucial between .050 & .058?
How do you like the G5800? I am looking at them now. My worry was finding parts.
@@mjengland1 haven't had a chance yet, still waiting for my bar to arrive. Took some research to figure out what bar would work with this saw.
Put a dot of super glue to hold it in place.
Those two saws are not strato charged.
This saw or the g255?
Both are good saws. Both I have are still going strong. But the G255 would be easier to get parts for since it is a clone of an MS250.
i didn't hear you say the size of motor or the maximum bar length
Sorry I may not have. it is a 45cc and you order the bar you want when you order it, it will take up to a 20 inch bar.
@@DIYwithUncleCy thank you sir
This one looks just like a Husqvarna
no bucking spikes on this one??? let alone no bolts , lol
Actually it was in the tool kit, I just never opened the kit because I still had tools from the last one laying there and so completely spaced the bucking spike till I was in the cut.
This or g255??? anyone who owns both can chime in???
I do own both. I have the 4500 set up as a bucking saw with a 20 inch bar and the 255 I have a dimetip 14 inch bar on for carving. Both are good saws I use the 255 for carving because I do more of that and trust its longevity more, carving is a lot of high RPMs for extended periods.
The saws look all most like a redmax
Copys
I bought a cg5800. The clutch has gone out and I can't get farmertec to replace the clutch or the saw. I have had chainsaws for 30 years so I know when a clutch has gone out. Farmetec keeps telling me to try this and that. I feel like all their doing is stalling until the warranty goes out. If I had known they don't have replacement parts I wouldn't have bought it. Do yourself a favor and don't buy one of these.
Is it the drum or the clutch pack inside of it. I know the Drums they have for it are out of stock (just went to their website and looked) If that is out then good chance the clutch packs are too. So they are probably stalling you till they get them back in stock.
Buy one off ebay, amazon or alliexpress, they're like 10 bucks.
Same here,type in "Chinese chainsaw 45cc,52cc,58cc"on goggle or ebay. The cheap saws on ebay are the same. That is where I had to find parts.
Sounds a lot like a husqvarna when it's at a high rpm
I don’t like wear that on and off switch is
looks like another chinese Zenoah clone.
Ppl just want to cry about something
What fuel ratio mixture did you use? For this saw and the 660.
I heard 25:1. I normally run 50:1 on my husky and stihl saws
All of the clones I have I run on 40 to 1