Asmongold Reacts to "Has Final Fantasy 14͏͏ Killed WoW?" | By Josh Strife Hayes
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- Asmongold reacts to a video by Josh Strife Hayes, who breaks down the reason why FFXIV is succeeding so much lately while World of Warcraft is been pushed into a managed decline, is FF14 the WoW Killer? Has the beloved MMO finally found its own demise, Asmon discusses if WoW is indeed dead...
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"The best received update was the removal of 17 years of updates".
Ouch.
@@kingofromekor5778 Your problem is? lmao
lol, way to get butthurt. I don't even play the game. Seems like part of the playerbase can't take criticism.
I dont think Asmon will leave WoW for good. He is playing multiple new mmos now, thats more like opening up to a widr range of games to play
17:11 for the timestamp of that
@@kingofromekor5778 If your experience of the game improves, because some other player leaves the game, either you, or the game, has a serious problem.
Blizzard: "You turned my playerbase against me?"
Square Enix: "You have done that yourself"
Square Enix has the high ground.
Moral and otherwise
@@Xadov SE has the same type of high-powered execs that any other large company has. Don’t think for a second that those guys don’t do unspeakable things to young Japanese girls in back rooms of clubs and motels.
They’re the same. Don’t get it twisted.
@@demonsluger I don't think it was off topic. Guy seems to think that SE execs are moral because they make a game he likes. I'm just a realist and know what people do when they have money and status. Saying they have the moral high ground is like saying Activision or EA has the high ground. They're all the same.
@@zerotolerance5581 Eh maybe there is dark things going on but you have to look at the culture. American companies are obviously getting up to stuff behind peoples backs because they only care about profit. This is a fact and unsurprising what would be a surprising is a decent American company that cares about its community.
In most Japanese companies outside of Sony they care about profits and craft to a degree. Heck the first release of final fantasy 14 was a disaster and it took them a long time to not only fix the issues, but they outright publicly apologized about it. Blizzard never apologizes for things unless its a rehearsed statement. They stuck with an initially failing game and built it from scratch and continue to try and fix it. The same could be said for other games that they have fumbled on. And the culture is very dedicated to their people, the other day a person wanted to censor anime to try and make it more appealing to western audiences for money, and he got lambasted so hard that he took a pay cut and made a formal apology.
While I understand that square enix has a policy of being too ambitious and having issues releasing finished products they do make up for it with dedication and commitment. Which by all means is a commodity in the current gaming market. In that respect to see them in a better light than blizzard is easy.
“The best update in the last 5 years was WoW: Classic - the update that removed 17 years of updates”
Holy shit hahahahaha
So, in essence, stop saying "X or Y is killing WoW."
Instead, start saying, "WoW is committing a long, drawn out suicide."
Lookin in retrospective, this game really stopped developing past cataclysm tbh, or if you want it this way, after activision took blizz
@@wisniamw While I agree that past Cata (or MoP imo) it's steadily been going downhill, I'm fairly sure Activision bought up Blizzard from Vivendi back in late TBC. This is what's commonly assumed to be the reason why the cash shop was implemented into the game in WotLK as well.
@@JK_92 oh, didnt know that. But overall, for vanila-wotlk we bassicly were getting more things. More talents, more challenges to do, more battlegrounds, more new things. In cata we get first iteration of redo talents. First iteration of redo stats. And bassicly after that there are tons of redo things and much less new things
@@wisniamw It stopped developing after Legion. The devs stumbled upon a winning formula there (after they finally made it fun and engaging), then proceeded to botch it up in every which way since then.
Mostly due to arrogance, mind you. You have to be pretty damned stupid to not hear "we really liked solo content like mage tower challenges, bring those back" then proceed to just hear "we really liked...tower challenges" and throw the players a piece of crap like Torghast.
@@zenspeed404 I would more of say, that legion was a point they HAD TO do something new. And I belive we are reaching now similiar situation, either next expansion, or one after that, will be Legion 2.0. A lot of new things, new stuff etc. But what really new you got in mop and wod. There was like 1 new battleground. 1 new arena I think. You get around 1 new talent and spell. I liked how they clean everything in WoD with mount journals and all that things. This is one of better additions into the game I belive. But these are QoL changes, that should not be considered as content
I remember TotalBiscuit always said that the only thing that could kill WoW was WoW itself.. RIP :/
"There's only one thing in this universe that can kill WoW, and that is WoW itself"
~Einstein, probably.
Did he really say that? Damn.. That guy was always a legend, can't believe it's been 3 years
even back then, during the peak of the wow killers, the answer that people came to was that the only thing that could kill wow was blizzard themselves, and we were right
RIP TB
@@lj_aderyn He's peaceful right now.... how I wish it never happened.
The dev of FFxiv, Yoshi P, once said famously in a keynote:
“Running an MMO is like running a country. If the players don’t like your game, they’ll move to Canada.”
@@Karlach_ HOWS CANADA NOW?!?!?! HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
"I like being the new guy, I like being uncomfortable in a new game!"..... Anyway let's roll a human warrior and try something a little different.
This deserved more recognition
Man said he liked being new and uncomfortable. Not a walking abomination freak of nature.
@@nagual1992 its a game... Irl you are irrelevant
@@matijajuric7997 Weird comeback, but okay. LOL
@@matijajuric7997 You watch Ricegum or something?
When he said "mmo players are trash" i felt that
sad zug zug noises :(
MMO players are the the Twitter users of the gaming community. Change my mind.
@@StarboyXL9 Couldn't say it better myself. MMO crowd is absolutely nuts nowadays.
@@Sioolol It's sad because I remember when I was a child fucking around on the internet people were much more educated and polite. Kind of reveals the motivations for economic gatekeeping and cynicism.
WoW players are a special kind of toxic .
There's still a ton of people playing WoW that have no intentions of quitting but I really pray the group that did leave was big enough to force blizzard into action.
Agreed.
those people invested too much of their lives and money to even quit the game
@L M my server is straight dead and the people I see are from different realms that aren’t from my original merged server that is also dead
Asmon was recently talking about how WoW could do with a 'killing off the current world', as FFXIV did. Or Blizz could just go one step further and make that 'WoW 2' everyone is asking about for years.
They're probably going to have to do merges with servers again like they did in warlords. Let's not forget that you started having so many sub losses in warlords that blizzard had to connect service together so then there wouldn't be so many empty servers
I played WoW for 16 years. When I started playing FFXIV 2 months ago, I realized that the only thing WoW has given me in the last few years is PTSD.
LMAO
💯
"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain."
In this case wow is dying as a villain
Why is everyone using this quote, same as "no kings rules forever" have you guys not realised that blizzard already died years ago ? It's not the same guys, it's a completely different company. Think for a sec instead of copy pasting the same comment cause it gots likes.
@@ancientdig1068 true and id be the guy to say ''well Rome went down hard exactly when their shit stopped making sense and were all over the place''
I honestly think that the real reason that FF would win in the: No strings attached which would you play scenario is that when you ask a wow player how much of the content is relevant or even reasonably doable, they would say latest content only, meaning 90% or more of the games content is meaningless, whilst In FFXIV, you still progress through the entire story just like everyone else and there are reasons for you to do old content, and you can even experience all of it at a satisfyingly difficult level where you can even play it to similar levels to what you would have when it just released without needing to specifically limit yourself or set yourself up for it. In the end, not that many people are really that interested in playing a game where getting the best gear is always the endgoal and where the game itself loves to make that as excruciatingly difficult as possible.
being obliged to do MSQ is literally the thing that kept me away from playing FFXIV
To be honest the reason FF14 ARR wins is the name to a point. Final Fantasy is a far bigger name. Which is why Square did what they did with FF14. They knew they could not put out crap and think the name alone will make people play the game.
Now that FF14 also place all boss a Extreme difficulty all bosses have a Different play style of there hard mode style it fun to see a chance and you have work really well together and become more chaos at some point.
@@MineWikiCraft that's a shame....missing out on a really good game. Coming from a WoW player, left in 2015 for ff14, haven't looked back.
I was thinking the exact same thing. WoW COULD compete with FF14 on content volume. Beat it easily, in fact. But they don't. They don't care about anything but endgame. And their strategy of planned obsolescence means that all the older stuff is neither challenging nor rewarding. And without the blinding effects of nostalgia, we'd see it for what it is: a waste of time.
"The best content update in years stripped away 17 years of content." Nuff said...
@@eyel5616 Can I still easily farm old content for transmog if I want to?
@@Psychorico yes
@@user-en4fx3ns5x tyvm. Gotta say, the game keeps getting more and more interesting.
@@Psychorico nice good to know, i know a lot bout the game i didnt buy it yet and never played it before
@@Psychorico Since FFXIV has the Level Sync mechanic, they can bundle up various differently leveled dungeons together under the same umbrella, cutting down on wait times. However if you already have a team together you can always do an unsync'd run to crush the place and get things that drop from boss chests (you won't get xp, cash, or normal drops though, only chests).
When I log into wow and I see all my callings, all the world quest, think about the maw, think about torgast, think about the vault, it’s just too exhausting. Bro I just want to dick around in stormwind waiting for the boys to group, go out, do some crazy shit like raiding a horde site, go do a dungeon, and then just chill out in the open world waiting for the raid time. That’s what I miss the most, but you can’t do that anymore. Everything feels like a systematic grind and the whimsical mysticism of a fantasy world has been drowned out
Fucking yup.
fcking yep.
YUP
thats why you come to classic or classic tbc;)
How has ff14 killed WoW? Crusade averages 100k viewers without Asmon and Ff14 averages 10k without asmon. You can’t kill that which is already dead.
"They think they miss WoW, but what they really miss is their life." Jesus man I wasn't ready to hear this.
@@demonsluger Yeah that killed the game for me too. It became more like a job, with weekly and daily responsibilities. A bigger factor however was how they removed all the fun and rpg elements from the game. They got rid of the talent point system. They got rid of interractions for dungeons and made everything automatic. They got rid of the pve progression by giving you the raid content in a joke format through LFR, so you didn't feel good clearing it in normal raids anymore. The harder raids were also silly that they existed... just give us new content instead of the same content on a harder format. They made looting an item a chore with all the gems, enchants and transmog requirements. The loot itself became trash and it either looked like a recolored copy of another item, or it was the copy of an older item. Even stats on items became boring, following the same format rather than being unique and fun.
PVP became pretty trash too. They stopped balancing the game. They came up with their new excuse "we are balancing the game for 3v3 now", which is short for "we don't care about class balance". Even if you're a multi-gladiator with the best gear, you can still lose to a random noob because he has the right class.
In general they were saving money from all sides. Instead of making 2 dungeons and making 1 harder than the other, they released the same dungeon twice on easy and hard. I call that lazy. Releasing the same item multiple times with recolors is lazy. Trying to addict players with weekly responsibilities instead of good content is lazy. Not balancing classes for PVP is lazy. Making all classes over-powered rather than finely balanced is lazy. They removed mechanics that used to be fun, like the 5 second rule and threat. They even made all the classes feel like playing the same class... They used to be unique, special... anyway :P I could complain about wow for 50 pages
@twizzm oh they did way more to remove uniqueness from classes. They gave all classes; healing, aoe, stun, cc, dots, movement abilities, infinite mana, removed threat as an issue.
They also made classes identical. If you healed as priest or druid the differences were basically only the spell names and effect duration/cooldown. They all had slow heals, long heals, smart heals, aoe heals, healing over time, healing cooldowns…
Anyway… they ruined the game in more ways than just talents, but talents was definitely one of the biggest mistakes they ever made.
@@Silentloler436 Healing as a druid "back in the day" (probably cata tbh) for me was more fun than anything else in the later expansions. Just the fact that you had to cast lifebloom three times on the tank and mid fight decide if you had the balls to let it pop or hit him with a regrowth. It was just rewarding as hell to play, for me atleast.
Even Asmon knew before it was said:
"No king rules forever."
i mean its a quote from King Terenas Menethil II from the game he like the most , of course he know
Even blizzard knew what would happen after wrath
I dont need validation, its just nice seeing Asmon have fun with playing a game again.
Ok
i think that is validation in a certain way itself.
that's.... that's validation
I genuinely haven’t seen him have so much fun playing anything since Classic release.
How has ff14 killed WoW? Crusade averages 100k viewers without Asmon and Ff14 averages 10k without asmon. You can’t kill that which is already dead.
"The best received update was the removal of 17 years of updates ..."
That hit hard
that hit way too hard dude
17 year old game WoW TBC is more complete then FFXIV today. even WoW Shadowlands
And then the morons turn around and keep trying to add the retail crap back into the version that removed them.
@@UltimaKeyMaster ignore him, he's white knighting Activision-Blizzard in Asmon's videos for a while.
"No king rules forever" damn that hurts.
Why? Dont be a pussy
I'll say this for FF, it's systems funnel higher level players to interact with newbies and inducts them into the community fairly easily. You may be a level 80 ultimate raider but you're going to do the first ever dungeon over and over again too
This is a good and bad thing. 550 ilvl people in my HW leveling dungeons just allows us to blow through them. Dungeons are my only time to actually play my class and have fun with it the new skills I’ve gotten because MSQ is 100% dialogue, and dungeons. Imo it sucks when the dungeon is way easier than it should be because a level 80 healer is doing 4x the damage of everybody else
@@darkschmuu I am doing duty roulette. It's not like the "minimum ilvl" setting where everybody is at the same level of power. A level 80 high ilvl character will still be considerably stronger than a sprout with questing gear.
@@Cornincarnate I get this, and I get this an old comment and you may have already realized that by now, but the point is that things being as they are in FFXIV, all content remains relevant, meaning that it doesn't matter if you started the game today, there will always be people to do the old content with you, and allow you to have that experience. In other MMOs, that doesn't happen. People will ever only play the newest content, so your options are to skip everything and go straight into the newest content, or start playing with a group of friends, to be able to do the old content together. And in FFXIV case, where to be able to progress you actually have to go through a lot of mandatory dungeons, if there aren't always a consistent wave of new players coming, you would be locked out of progression. Everything in life has good and bad sides, nothing is perfect, and the goal is to aways choose the option with more good than bad. And this is it.
"No king rules forever" - Some Dead Dude Probably
Asmon rules forever
imagine if King Phillip III. of Spain would play world of warcraft, what would he say? or if Senator Cato in 149 B.C in Rome would do the same. would they say the same things about the game? hmmm
How has ff14 killed WoW? Crusade averages 100k viewers without Asmon and Ff14 averages 10k without asmon. You can’t kill that which is already dead.
Ofcourse its some dead dude, even kings die eventually.
@Diamond.Cr00ks Are you a fucking bot? Post your shit opinion as a standalone instead of flooding comments to leach attention.
You clearly didnt even watch the video and you missed the point entirely. Noone said it killed it, everyone is saying WoW killed WoW.
You’re right, all the FF games are disconnected. They share similar naming conventions (spell names, summon names, Gil etc). XIV is a sort of celebration of FF as a whole, taking a lot of concepts and names from past games and using them in their setting (like materia from 7, the raid based on Tactics/12). In that respect if people are looking to get into FF, 14 is one of the best representations of what the series can be.
I played ffvii is cloud or sephiroth in the mmo?
@@askinnakklevaar98 no, it's a completely separate story. It just has concepts from all the games
@@askinnakklevaar98 Nah, there's a Cloud gear set as a veteran rewards (after subbing the game for certain months). There's Sephiroth boss fight too but different sephiroth.
@@askinnakklevaar98 I don’t think so. I know there is an outfit based on cloud from the advent children movie but I don’t think they physically appear. That’s not to say they won’t down the line 14 has done crossovers with other ff games where those characters appear so it’s possible they can
@@askinnakklevaar98 depends on if SE runs events based on other ffs. I know lightning from 13 was an event in game. Noctis from 15 was in game for a collab event. Their was FF tactics cross over content. Nier Automata based content.
I know Clouds outfit from advent children was a subscription reward.
So ff7 content is possible
lmao I love how Josh is suddenly everywhere, he deserves it.
Same here. Josh is one of the best content producers out there, with extremely detailed and meticulous investigations and reporting.
My first MMO was actually Wildstar. Then SWTOR. Then FFXIV. Never WoW. Even still, I've seen enough to realize that there is only one thing that can kill WoW: *Blizzard/Activision*
FFXIV didn't kill WoW... Blizzard did.
No, Activision killed Blizzard
yes
People are still coping and putting all the blame on Activision?
@@TheDasErdinger yes because it’s true? Lol 😂
Funny cuz retail right now is litteraly full of players. So wah wah cry more while i push keys and raid😘
On the question between WoW and FF if they released today, I think something to take into account is that while they're both based on existing ip, Final Fantasy is a brand that today has relevance while Warcraft hasn't been a relevant name (outside of the mmo) since before WoW's release. My little brother was born in 1999 and plays shooters and sports games on console. He still knows what Final Fantasy is. If WoW was only releasing today, he would have no idea what Warcraft is.
Its true that the Final Fantasy brand is one that has very few rivals in the industry in terms of history and impact on the medium, and everybody and their grandma has at least heard of it. Just look at when Sephiroth was announced for Smash and how universally recognized he was even by the people who never play RPGs.
@@JackgarPrime also forgot to mention in my op, FF14 can be played on Playstation, so that would influence player base as well, especially since console and pc players aren't separated.
What about warcraft orcs and humans, warcraft 2 and 3?
@@TheRifild Bro, I'm close to being 30 now, when Warcraft 3 was a thing... I was in middle school.
I have a little brother, hes 14, he has FFVII remake on the PS5. Loves Sephiroth in smash etc.
He went out of his way to buy pretty much all Final Fantasy titles on Steam and is having a blast.
Final Fantasy in terms of an RPG brand is untouchable, no other game series comes even close to its recognition over *generations* of people.
I will pick up FFXIV tbh and try it, but I am a huge sucker for Final Fantasy in itself.
It doesn't matter if you are born in the late 80s / 90s / 00s etc, Final Fantasy releases stuff in every generation and they have a marketing brand so strong that some names became ingraned in RPG history.
Sephiroth doesn't need an introduction.
Also Final Fantasy XI was a HUGE MMORPG on console before WoW ever released.
Warcrafts brand is so old, I can see it in my little brother.
He plays Dota2 and he has NO CLUE that it was just a mod for Warcraft 3.
@Stevospeedo Don't quit your day job and you maybe the only one commenting here with that trash viewpoint.
I was playing FF before Blizzard even existed.
It’s hard to sit through the long streams but I love the videos on TH-cam! Keep up the great work, very entertaining!
I just started playing FF14 and I think the important part is that while leveling, most of the content in ARR and the first expansion is still relevant. I see the whole story, do dungeons, trials and raids in those parts of the game. WoW consistently throws it's old content and systems away
Cause people didn't want to do that content anymore. People keep ignoring what people have been asking through the ages. WoW has slowly adapted to the demands of people. FF, on the other hand, is now getting all these players, who see everything as new content. And still, it has super repetitive questing, like, vanilla WoW level of questing and small as heck zones with constant transitions, which could prove a problem in the long run for players once they also start egtting fed of the levelling path. Untill FF has been out over 10 years (and I mean FF 2.0, after the huge update which, btw, was based on WoW, as the devs admitted. Not the pre update FF, which was utter asian MMO garbage) we will really never know if the formula worked. WoW has been there for 17 as leader, of course people are fed of it.
@@simonsalgueiro6217 wow adapts to the demands of its players? That is the complete opposite of the truth. At every opportunity they do exactly what the players do not want.
@@zuthula3847 Believe whatever the hell you want, dude
@@simonsalgueiro6217 He does. It's called the truth.
Meanwhile I wave from the SWToR corner. :D
Swtor is an amazing single player game. I often play through some class stories
How is it over there? I heard a new expansion is coming. That's cool. I played. I had a Sith and a Bounty Hunter. I enjoyed it lots. I'm on FFXIV now.
I actually enjoyed my time with SWOTOR, but I just can’t forgive what they did to Revan and the exile
The average ff14 and WoW fan vs the average SWToR enjoyer
@@Madadader they are implemented a cross class system. Basically you'll be able to play a bounty hunter but with the solider/machinegun mechanic, or a trooper with dual wielding revolvers from the smuggler etc etc
Like he said you invest and feel a connection to your character... which is why FF14 has such an appeal because you truly only invest in your character since you can change jobs as you want if you need to adapt for your static or simply because you got tired of the job you main. That way everything you do on the game stays with you.
@@lawlestest Honestly i'm on gilgamesh which is definitely not a preferred world since it's one of the most populate, leveling isn't that bad, you need to focus one to have the armory bonus for the other then its easy. And crafters can be all done within a day.
@@shanleyjomphe5784 Yup agreed. Just take it steady with roulettes. Run PotD maybe. Won’t be lightning fast but consistent so you still feel like you’re making progress.
@@BrodyCanuck That is a good point. But for me I have 2 characters one is a non magical character the other purely magical. Even though I could have had magical jobs I wanted to try healer but was terrified as it was the only mmorpg I had ever played. So started a new character and new race so I could be a sprout and now my alt is my main. Absoluty love being a healer but never would have gained the confidence I have now wothout starting an alt. Sorry for the long reply I actually agree that starting different characters is so fun. Espescially after knowing the systems of a game.
That's actually a con to me. It means the job doesn't fit my class/race from a RP perspective.
I have very mixed feelings on 1 toon for everything, the "try hard" in me think it would be amazing because i dont have to constantly worry about multiple toons and keeping them all up to date especially with reps. but i also love the RP aspect that each toon is its own character, and their own story with how i leveled them.
I definately agree with you about starting new games. I absolutely love the idea of starting a new RPG and stepping into the world for the first time. As you said, the feeling of not knowing anything, that there is always something new on the otherside of the hill or just down the road. I get similar feelings from a new book.
I still have very fond memories of starting Oblivion (my first real RPG) and exiting the sewers and looking round. The sense of wonder and excitement of what was there and and what I could do and where I could go. And other games have given me the same feeling.
I sometimes wish I could remove my memory of good games so that I could experience them for the first time again. And again for books. What I'd do to experience Lord of the Rings for the first time again.
I've never played WoW, so I only found your videos when you started looking at FFXIV, but keep up the good work.
I've been playing runescape since 04, 05. I've taken weeks, months, even years off. But there's something that always keeps me coming back, regardless of what games are out or how bad the updates may be. The emotional investment is the only thing I could think of that keeps me coming back. I've got like 5 months of in game playtime on my account over nearly 15 years. Hard to let go of that.
I like the honesty that Josh has. "Has the clickbait title gotten this video more view than usual? Lets find out!"
I don't even play WoW and he got me to click on it. I'd say it worked.
Nowadays it's a necessity to use clickbait titles to please the algorithm, can't blame the creators anymore.
S L A Y E R
“Don’t hate the player, hate the game.”
So I stopped playing in wrath. Then started again in Cata and stopped again. Since then Ive never played WoW until classic came out. Leveled to 60 then phase two killed it for me. 6 months later I started again and got a rogue in tier 2.5. Did a couple bosses in naxx then stopped again. TBC brought me back to level a paladin until 62 then I got burned out again. Watching Asmons videos on youtube got me interested in FF14 so I tried it. Now I got a level 50 dragoon/redmage/samurai and handful other lower level jobs and Im having a blast! Honestly WoW without innovation and milking their customers just turned me off from them for good.
So you haven't played retail since Cata, think that WoW has no innovation and switched to the game that uses the same formula since first expansion. I'd struggle to find more stupid take.
Personal experience I love having different classes on my own character because I don't lose reputation and everything you earn it stays with you in that character, and the dungeons have been fun I really have enjoyed dungeons and raids in FFXIV with interesting mechanics , and cool music like Emanation the first time there blew my mind and Bahamut final fight ,pieces of art and the detail in their cloth and everything is so good , and I am only level 72 and I have experienced so much while leveling I am glad there are so many classes I can level, my gameplay style has become to level classes thru dungeons and raids, I am even unlocking optional raids just for fun haha
Why do you people look at it like this? Is it because you try to live on the game or something? I don’t care what they do. I play when I get a chance on days off from work when I’m not doing anything. It’s just something to do that’s fun when I’m not busy. If you looked at it like this and didn’t live on the game no matter what they do it wouldn’t bother you. Just because you can’t get your way or things don’t go how you think you just quit the game for another game that is very similar (that is really like a knock off wow) In my opinion is stupid ridiculous and shows how over emotional people are that play these games. It’s really not that serious. Just play, have fun, don’t live on the game and you won’t get burned out.
@@southerndude8250 imagine people getting mad the game they pay monthly for is shit. They literally can't play unless you pay 15$ a month and people just want that experience to be good. I have zero fucking clue what the hell you are going on about.
@@deathisnear2424 I pay monthly for it as well for nearly 10 years. The game is fine. It still feels like wow, I’m good.
I literally stopped playing Classic because of the Blitzchung thing. Idk exactly how many people did the same but I imagine it wasn't insignifigant.
Me in 2007 in WoW general chat: "Only wow can kill wow."
*meanwhile in barrens chat* random warlock: "chuck Norris is so strong his pubs can lift the planet"
@@thundergaming155 pretty much on every mmo at that time
The short answer:
No, FF14 hasn't killed WoW.
Blizzard-Activision has killed WoW.
How has ff14 killed WoW? Crusade averages 100k viewers without Asmon and Ff14 averages 10k without asmon. You can’t kill that which is already dead.
Ion killed WoW. The whole development team needs to be flushed. The earth needs to be scorched and salted and from the ashes have a new visionary development team take the helm. It’s WoW’s only hope at this point. If Ion remains in charge… WoW’s fate is doomed.
Lets be honest here and dont compare WoW with FF14 for sec, would anyone want to do boring chores everyday for 1 year until new update? Any other half decent game without subscription can replace wow and you wont sad about it unless your addiction and masochism for blizzard already untreatable.
@@favourites144 look at google trends, you'll see what is going on.
Lol that is how the USA 🇺🇸 will be. No country can kill us we will destroy ourselves
Instead of calling wow the "fat wife" that you're comfortable with...
My buddy and I refer to US the player as the "abused wife"...
we just keep coming back for more because it used to be good
they release upcoming patch discussion "oh look, he's trying to change"
patch notes get released "YES, he is definitely changing"
realize the patch sucks "he only hits me because he loves me"
class gets nerfed/content sucks "i'm done with this crap... it's over..."
patch discussion comes out "aw he apologized, he is trying!"
Accurate
So true, and ion's beatings keep us coming back
In short a wow bitch
@@baronfuath5872 i actually LOL'd dude
@@baronfuath5872 bahahahhaha
I love Asmon's react videos when they actually engage him and give him a chance to show the mind behind the bluff and bombastic facade.
Actually that's the thing I like about Asmondgold's videos. I don't watch his streams but I do love the videos where he debates and invites people to have a discussion. Whatever you may think about his persona he puts on for entertainment purposes, he has mad skills in debate and argumentation and I respect that.
@@elrilmoonweaver4723 That's precisely what I mean by "the mind behind the facade." Even from the curated clips from Asmongold vs Zack Rawrr you'll see the difference between "big dick damage" and the compelling insights he can bring to bear.
I also like the synthesis of the two, where all the force of Asmongold and the clarity and authenticity of Zack come together to rip the shit out of an issue. I, too, respect him *and* his craft.
I started back in very late TBC and played through WotLK. What a ride it has been!
First, I rolled a Druid. At level 70 I was so embarrassed by the fact that I have no idea how to play it, that I switched faction and class and found myself playing Shadow Priest. Most people I met while trying to join a vanilla dungeon group as DPS laughed at me and told me to go back to healing. I believe that the last dungeon I healed was one of the first in Hellfire Peninsula.
The game was fascinating, yet I played mostly solo or doing some obscure old content like getting Benediction/Anathema. When WotLK came out, I really wanted to progress in raids, yet my semi-social guild was doing only Naxx10, even when Ulduar came out. I was frustrated and started doing pugs, and met another Shadow Priest who taught me some things about the spec. And then I was prepared to move to the second best guild on the server (the best was another faction).
We did well for majority of raiding content, yet some of the tougher heroic encounters on 25 man proved to be hard. We did not even bother with heroic Lich King, as people struggled on normal for so long, that it took us around a month to down him for the first time.
For me it was a great journey from actual zero to hero (I got into top-40 on World of Logs or whatever it was called), and I completely lost interest in game days before Cataclysm released. Since then I could not force myself into playing retail WoW. I have tried playing it numerous times on Starter account, but it felt like a rush to get to the end-game with leveling being just a nuisance and not a chance to experience the game. The mechanics have changed a lot since 2010, the game does feel different than what I used to know and love and it is impossible for me to play it. I rather play Vanilla on a private server.
Asmon is just happy he can play both and it doesnt upset the majority of his viewerbase.
Stevospeedo copium overdose
@Stevospeedo Cope
@Stevospeedo weeb game lololol if anything its hard westaboo game ..more akin to BDO if anything (having eastern aesthetic is not weeby)
i play both games...the latest sylvanas cinematic is literally a bad 2000s anime plot twist...the tyrande fight is weeb as fuck with unnatural power jumps and mid combat dialogue...im mostly there for the raid.
but might quit soon because lack of content and trash upkeep
if youd like to point fingers at a weeb game...a clear example is PSO2
@Stevospeedo Yes the content drought that is occurring within a week of 9.1, during the alpha of AoC and shortly after the release of tbc classic. if there is a content drought now....the next 5 months of WoW going to be a complete famine.
Legion was the last expansion that i actually enjoyed getting on, lost the passion
after i lost my beloved artifact weapon.
In the lost way.
Quick! sacrifice your artifact weapon you had farmed and leveled since day one to save the world!.
Yeah how about no?
I kind of missed an Isildur option back in Legion.
"Cast your artifact into the fire!"
"No."
@@flipboy420 excuse me but alts have never been as powerful as they were in legion, many of them was quickly equivalent to main. even my least played max level were doing really good. legendaries dropped like candy even with a system where you would end up getting them all. legion was a masterpiece, and im saying that with a large distaste for broken isles and argus. they ucked up a lot of things like GCD, whistle and tab target, but that fade in the glory of smash.
I was really hoping after Legion we would have a system where we make our own artifact weapon. Not like making Legendaries in Shadowlands but full on customization of the looks and everything. You could choose it to be for any spec and use any weapon your class can equip. You name it, and find different schematics and plans in the world. So like if you have a sword you could find a different blade or cross guard or hilt, make it double bladed, etc. You could also name your own weapon, etc. It would be a big system but I think it could be so fun if done well.
Same. I really enjoyed that expansion for the lore
17:11 Carbot's video played in my head as i heard that
Yeah man, great point on that "lasting power" and critical player mass. This is big when considering that an in-game economy requires high player liquidity to keep trade vibrant; and in-game currency meaningful to acquire
Blizzard: “You turned them against me!”
YoshiP: “You have done that yourself.”
Blizzard: “I HATE YOU”
YoshiP: “I loved you. You were my brother, blizzard. You were supposed to bring balance to the MMO market, not plunge it into darkness!”
I legit think that YoshiP would be sad if WoW were to completely die. Ion needs to step aside and let someone else that’s more passionate take the reins. Almost 6 years or so he’s been director and he’s repeatedly failed. Fucking joke of a director.
@@rikumatsumoto7176 considering Yoshi is a fan of western MMOs having played both EQ and WoW, yea he would be sad. He did order his team to play WoW to see make them see what the market has to offer when they were working on 2.0
Me mining like a slave in Runescape: "Interesting".
Do it
I played runescape for 15 years.
It's a cool afk game but it's really boring end game. Without the social aspect of it the game is honestly dead.
I still play and my subscription is active but honestly I rarely log in unless it's a clan event or a new update
@@Pirate-King-Buggy so is runescape still a an ongoing thing or is it like wow classic where they brought it back how it was but that it
@@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj454 runescape got the idea to revive the old version of its game before wow did, infact wow copied runescape , only different is Runescape execution was better.
Old school Runescape is the more popular game because the game mechanic is more fluid and fun to PVP with. So it still has a massive popularity to it.
So yeah.. I don't think OSRS is dying anytime soon.
@@pulseofme6884 true d00d
I played gw2, eso, and runescape before wow. Then promptly went back to them after a month of wow
20:10 i'd say at the latest patch story patch they do have a shape up or ship out solo instance. It took me off guard i had to put actual effort into one and felt some challenge
I decided my WoW quitting point would be when I legit regretted buying the latest expansion. That happened last week so I did a full WoW purge of unsubbing, giving away my gold, deleting my toons, uninstalling and submitting my account for deletion.
Wod made me never preorder another xpac (preordered since BC) or another game for that matter. legion gave me hope, bfa suckered me early, and that was it. i had enough.
How can you submit account(s) for deletion. I need to do that. The only thing keeping me going is titles like immortal and grand marshal etc. if I could kill my account I could end the toxic addiction
@@pineapples7449 you've gotta submit an account deletion request to Activision. It's kind of a pain in the ass and I can't share details because I'm on mobile.
@@thenerdbeast7375 thank you
If you lot decide to give ffxiv a try, we would be happy to have you. Should you make that decision, allow me to pre-emptively welcome you to Eorzea. If that isn't where you want to go, then I wish you luck and fun in whatever MMO you pick up.
"wait for wow to kill itself"
Asmon: "cacaroaches!!"
galaxy brain in chat: "Clockaroach"
How has ff14 killed WoW? Crusade averages 100k viewers without Asmon and Ff14 averages 10k without asmon. You can’t kill that which is already dead.
@@favourites144 dunno why you replied to me i don't care about either game i just watch asmon and his chat say dumb shit
@@TeddyParker She/he copy & pasted the same message on almost every comment regardless of context.
@@fenrir2188 clearly doing the good work of the lord. when i think of people to go to bat for, i think of large corporations with hugely successful products
YEP COCK
Nostalgia feels from that quote still hit me to this day
This is particularly true in irl businesses, they often "update" themselves into oblivion.
WoW: "I will now self-destruct"
BfA whole expansion and Shadowlands.
Those are the 2 expansions that Ion has been lead game developer. Hmmmmm, I wonder if there's a relation?
anyone else remember a long time ago, when blizzard stated the only thing to kill WoW was them? i member... was hoping they would release a new, better version of WoW though, not put a bullet in the head.
TotalBiscuit said that (RIP).
I didn't come to asmon to be reminded that The Winds of Winter still isn't out...
I quit after Cata, went FFXIV for a few years. I missed WoW.
Went back in BFA. All the things I missed in Wow (except Pvp) are ruined/gone.
I decided to stay in FFXIV because all the things I wanted are still there. All the things I hated were slowly disappearing and they're keeping the things I want! Wow. It's almost like they are listening to their playerbase while also coming up with QoL changes on their own! Crafting was so tedious pre 5.11 patch that I barely touched it. Then they made it a whole lot simpler in 5.11 (i'm sure some hardcore crafters got annoyed by the simplification though). Now I'm crafting my own gear when there's a new patch.
I don't hate WoW. I hate the things they changed to ruin it.
Daaamnn that last line "No king rules forever" BOOM!
I dont play WoW....I started watching this channel because he covered Ashes of Creation...I play Destiny 2 and I can not help but realize there are a lot of comparisons between bad systems in WoW and Destiny 2 and its terrifying.
I've definitely heard some nightmare stories about Destiny 2.
Yep. I played both, D2 isnt what D1 was and coulda been and wows gone down the shitter. Every patch or xpac is another system, another currency, another injection of FOMO
It's definitely a poor substitute for actual content like storyline, dungeons/raids and new world PVP features/battlegrounds. It's a lot cheaper for ActiBlizz to produce certainly, but they have to increase the whale tax/mounts/shop as the non-whale subscribers leave. I bet you could calculate how many more expansions they have left.
Destiny 2 is one of those games where the devs shit on their players and the players look up with open mouths.
@@TheDragonageorigins what the fuck did i just read
7:46 Yep. This is why I still refresh my UO house on a player run server from the golden years of that game. I'm still attached.
I tried WoW once in December, got bored after 30 minutes and went straight back to FF14
I tried WoW for 13 years. I'm now playing FF14
Bring back wildstar. Bring back the hoverboard mounts.
yeah, imagine if wildstar launched now instead. It might actually have stood a chance. It was a fun game.
@@diamondsofsix The sci-fi theme and mainly the performance of the game really put me off. Around level 15 I got fed up with the on average 15-25 FPS I would get, so I quit and went back to WoW at the time, where I'd average 40-50 FPS :/
Would have loved to try it again however, with a better PC and hopefully a more optimized WildStar.
Maybe they'll bring the game back some day? Who knows... but we need it now more than ever.
I felt personally hurt when he made the game of thrones analogy.
It’s so painful knowing the only reason the first two episodes of season 8 were actually pretty good is because they weren’t written by D&D
Skinny Mulligan
Adapting something and Writing your own thing are two very different skillsets.
Not enough people recognize that.
@@sirapple589 very true, makes you wonder how things would’ve gone had the books been finished before the show had its final season, we might’ve actually had a satisfying ending
legion was very fun , i loved the mage tower..you got nice mog and had to work for it solo
on the other end of the "bond" spectrum, I was invested in DC Universe for 8 years. Once I finally stepped away, I'm finding it really hard to get back in to grinding on mmo's now. The need is still there but I find myself only sitting for a few hours at a time now.
I remember being addicted to that game for like 5 years and when I finally realized how they were killing their own game and making it a cash cow I stopped playing and that was the best decision i ever made.I had good times in that game,but there were some bad ones too.I also get what you're saying about grind idk what it was but that game kinda killed a little bit my desire to play games for years.I think I'm finally getting that passion I had gor games years ago,but it definitely had a impact on my mental health.I learned that there needs to be a moderation In everything you do becuase if you don't have moderation then the game will take you hostage and you won't even realize it.
I just cancelled. "The best content update in years stripped away 17 years of content." GG, true.
but at the same time WoW TBC a 15 year old game feels more complete than FFXIV today
@@Dualities explain?
@@Dualities If I recall, you're one of those guys that always has to say something negative about ffxiv on the discord and the chat.
they lack social and PVP features. lack of innovations. outdated combat and subscription model... no chat bubbles or voice chat or smaller nameplates, not a single good 4v4 map, no open world raid bosses where players could fight to contest those bosses, they don't combine PvE and PVP elements...
@@Dualities not even close, you’ve never gotten far enough to find those things
Man, I started playing ff like a week ago and already cancelled my wow sub lol
Same. After so many years
About time you guys decided to upgrade, you guys were being charged 15$ per month for a fucking game with PS1 graphics.
Man I agree so much definetelly gonna do the same
Dude just play another type of game. FF14 is for Weebs.
I just can't enjoy the long gcd and as someone who doesn't care about story, the whole running around for every quest. Everything feels like. Fetch quest with mind numbing combat. Playing dragoon btw
Josh is a great content creator, awesome to see you reacting to his stuff and bringing attention to him.
That cup must be heavy.
I love seeing asmongold watch my favorite TH-camr lately!
I moved from wow to FF14 with shadowbringer, my character in wow got like 500 mounts with best transmog and nearly bis slot. I've managed to clear 2 ultimates in FF14 working on Tea atm, got bis gear and awesome glamour for all 18 jobs, and 134 mounts which is like 80% of all mounts.
Community is so good compared to wow so trust a +10 years veteran delete that wow folder and move to FF14
I took the jump. Level 51 warrior I’m enjoying it. I just got flying and that’s a relieve, the game feels more fun now. One thing I am having issues with is finding people to play with, it kind of feels like a solo experience so far even though people are nice I can’t seem to find people to play with and on top of that it seems like I shouldn’t be playing with people since I’m just progressing through my main story quest.
"Community is so good compared to wow so trust a +10 years veteran delete that wow folder and move to FF14
"
Another cult member, don't buy his BS guys, 30 minutes on FF forums is enough to see what an obnoxious cesspool the community actually is.
@@candulimataoo2852 just do what i did and start emoting and asking questions of other players
@@dushas9871 lol the forums are exerting a selection bias why dont you just go interact with people ingame and make up your own mind
@@candulimataoo2852 if you play like a solo player, you will be a solo player. So take ur time with leveling, try to strike up conversations with people and see what unfolds. You will manifest/attract what you are
IIt is difficult to give up a MMORPG because of the emotional connection that has been formed by hundreds of hours of gameplay. Yes, that's right.
Do you know how I managed to overcome that addiction? I went on a trip for a few weeks to visit relatives. When I came back that's when I realized that the game I was playing and addicted was played out of habit, not because I enjoyed it anymore.
And I realized that there are more things, including more games, out there. We live in a huge world after all.
One thing I miss was the uniqueness WoW use to have. I felt there was no wrong answer for how you built your character
I mean, going by the explosion of negativity and everyone questioning everything after the raid ending? I say Blizz is doing a pretty damn good job on cutting the emotional connection players had in it
I really enjoy the lore on this game. I been playing this game since near the end of BC, i like to do content, farm mounts, transmog, kind of a collector between raid or M+ activities. My guild died mid castle, and i was just doing m+ with some friends but we were really expecting 9.1 and i always said to myself, if the end cinematic is thrash (i made 3 scenarios in my head and all were bad) I'll be done, and then it happens... Now i still have months of gametime to my acc, and still only do m+, but now i just don't give a fuck about my characters that i played with for more tan 10 years
Can't say much the game is far from dead maybe less players but the ones who are diehard wow fans keep that game making lots of money and always will. People fail to realize FF has just as many problems as wow. Hot topic for streamers it isn't killing wow cause it ain't no better or would of killed wow long ago
@@kissmytotems ff has its own problems, but it’s literally objectively wrong to say it has as many problems or problems of similar severity. What it sets out to do it does extremely well.
@@kissmytotems they DO talk about the problems...they are not echoed rampantly as much as wows because the problems dont really hamper the experience.....these problems fall as
-not HEAVILY tied to power progression
-side content niches
-addressed w/ open communication (btw THIS is why WoW fails at its problems...because people parroting the same issues over and over and over and they wont still do something about it)
As someone that still plays EQ, I think it's safe to say WoW is never going to "actually die."
Wow has two million, one hundred ninety thousand subs right now. Final Fantasy is projected to have over 25 million before the end of the year.
It’s like Blizzard doesn’t even care anymore.
Bahahahahahaha 25 mil bahahahahahahavahahhahaha more like 100k subs hahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha
22:23 Yep. This is the same thing we talked about when people wanted classic EQ servers. People wanted to go back to the golden years of their golden years game. They wanted to re-experience that, but what we found out is you can't re-experience it. All you can do is move forward, and hope you find new games to have a new set of golden years. For me that was the end of BC and WotLK (EQ was my golden years game - I led 75 man raids in Planes of Power). It can happen again; but it can't be duplicated in the same game.
GW2 just had *2 expansions confirmed* and 2 lead Devs returning. AND FINALLY commits to iterating on content! Maybe it won't be #1. It looks like ff14 will be that. But maybe it can be #2
i think i will play both... ff14 for pve and gw2 for WvW (zerg pvp).
gw2 has no equip grind. once you get BiS its Bis forever. So i never fall behind the curve. So it should be fine as a second mmorpg.
Gw2 really killed other mmos for me personally. Can’t go back to the standard fighting systems and other action combat systems are worse. The only thing I’d be interested to see is if a holy trinity model could work in gw
Great game, though I really do miss some deeper and more engaging combat (and a holy trinity).
@@captnweasle it somewhat exists in the raiding scene and why I stopped playing it. The classes are not balanced for raiding and the only class that can tank is mesmers with sword and shield and the only healer is druid. It's very limiting and unbalanced, the raiding community is also super elitist.
BDO also really been ramping up their content release since the last year too I think they smelled blood and going for it.
Wow didn't get killed, it killed itself. FF was just the rescue ship picking up survivors
Definitely not for the pvp players though.
@@grizzly1s1kgaming we dont talk about 14's pvp.
@@grizzly1s1kgaming yeah because wow pvp is sooo much better. It's an ignored, unbalanced mess that is defined to 80% by gear and borrowed power level and to 20% by own skill, maybe even less skill if you play ret paladin.
@@Electrifi3d You know FF14 pvp is lackluster compared to WoW, I don't even know why you are trying to prove that WoW pvp is worse than FF14, lmao...
@@grizzly1s1kgaming if PvP is what you're looking for, you're better off playing bdo
I moved over and I’m loving it. The biggest plus for me is no gating of content. If I want to do some repeatable dailies not only do I have the area I can do repeatable leves, I have like 3-5 different areas where I can match my level and do them as much as I want and not be held back by a daily requirement or overall number.
I’m digging FFXIV so much this time around. I played after they did RR and only stuck around to like lvl24 and now I’m blasting through 50 on my pally and I’m looking forward to even better content as it’s known that it gets better from here.
Your comment about classic, people and school was spot on.
22:03 I cannot believe how deep and clear Asmon's thinking goes sometimes, and this guy is known as a degenerate (and admitted by himself as a degenerate) , but what he says there about people going back to their 16ies is just pure psychology and wisdom
Honestly the phrase "degenerate" is a pretty dumb one to begin with.
@@JackgarPrime that’s how asmon described himself while watching video about a streamer quitting streaming and wanting to get a “serious” life with a normal job. I forgot the name of the video
Zack I think is very self-aware and critical of himself like a lot of people who are honest/open minded about who they are as a person. Asmongold is a degenerate in his words as he plays up a bit of a character or more extreme version of himself. Regardless tho I think Zack/Asmon is a very caring person who wants to do right in the world as best he can.
Asmon is too smart to care. He sees the big picture and the treadmill run for a shiny car holds no real value. Asmon, has left the matrix, but like the guy that wanted to return and eat that steak, he understands how others measure his life choices.
@@pineapples7449 beautiful analogy
ffxiv was my first mmo, i like the aesthetics of ff and that was my number 1 reason. not a pc gamer started on ps3 then moved to ps4 up until heavensward. now with endwalker i am tempted to play on pc...
You can also just add a mouse and keyboard! Might save you some bucks
@@remcoreminds nah it runs like ass on console compared to pc if you have a somewhat decent pc atleast.
@@grizzly1s1kgaming I can only speak about my ps4 pro experience, which has been quite good regarding performance.
There's honestly no point in not playing on the pc (aside from the cost of course) considering that companies are now letting their games be on steam and pc in general.
For the same amount of money as a console, you could build a decent pc that outperforms that console. Or buy a pre-built as those are even cheap now and a good buy.
@@TheDragonageorigins post this cheap shit you speak of i want to see the specs of this 500-600 pc that is more powerful than a ps5 or xbox i have seen several videos that debunked this
"[They] will learn. No king rules forever!"
I'm loving TBC classic at the moment but retail isnt interesting. Finally got my mount in FF so will give that another go.
Serves them right. Time gating, half assed story, neglecting core fan base for casuals. Spent years on WoW, loved it, but I hope they realize how messed up they made the game. (Spoiler alert: They won't.)
And also... Lack of moral choises like bfa (only 1... after those years WTF xp)
That active player gap has been closed and passed FF now has more active players than wow
FF14 is higher on google trends
“No king lasts forever.” - Gee, where have I heard that line?
4:20 it's also why they stopped doing server mergers probably, I remember all the talk back when they used to do them.
People seem to forget that Yoshida has been a WoW fan, and that he's encouraged playing other games, not JUST ffxiv.
@Blue sounds like you’re projecting onto a general group. Pedophiles tend to do that.
@Blue I found the troll.
@Blue could be the server you're on, brynhildr is fine
Blue what
Back when I was playing WoW regularly still, during mop, I already knew that if/when my raiding guild died there was nothing else keeping me playing. My entire gameplay was either raiding directly, or working towards raiding. Compared to FFXIV where I've never become a serious raider, but I keep playing because I get joy out of so many different areas. People get lost in XIV in glamour, crafting/gathering, just playing the story, music performance, housing, the gold saucer, raiding, yes even pvp, or any combination of random stuff they've found. I hardly ever hear talk of anything in wow anymore beyond raiding and pvp and maybe mythic+. The few times over the years I've tried to log back into wow I just really haven't found a simple fun thing to draw me back in.
“No king rules forever.” Dude this did hit hard.
It took over a year of being unhappy with WoW before I *started looking* for another mmo, and even then I was always hoping WoW would get better so I could go back. I re-subbed a few times but left bored or frustrated every time. Now I have enough time invested in FFXIV I may never go back to WoW.
It's hard to imagine how a company could fail so hard for so long after so much success.
i've asked myself that question at the end for years. my answer has always been: if wow didn't exist and released today, it would flop completely. it has nothing new that no other game has, no innovation. the artstyle is horrible and the animations absolutely terrible. all new systems currently in wow are taken from other popular games over the last decade. wow used to be the game other mmos copied, but for the last ten years it's been the exact opposite. seriously, put ffxiv and wow side by side; virtually every system that both games share, ffxiv does it much, much better. also, the blizzard devs show absolutely zero interest in what the community wants, while the devs at ffxiv constantly listen to the community. wow used to be an amazing game, but that game is long, long gone. if the game released today, without the success it had when it came out in 2005, it wouldn't last longer than any other new mmo.
The question that you have been asking yourself is really stupid because it's like saying if diablo was released today, it would've been shit and wouldn't have gotten the success it had, that's just plain stupid to even ask the question in the first place. There is a reason why the animation is outdated, it's because it is released in 2005, not 2021 or otherwise, it would've looked better. FFXIV was released in 2010, so obviously it has better animation and artstyle.
Quick reminder that wow has actually been copying ffxiv for around 6 years now
@@harryb12993 Wow!! That's great, I bet FF14 copied WoW in many ways.
I finally reached the end point of the toxic relationship that this video talks about recently. Blizzard have treated melee and dual-wielders far too badly since around the Legion/BfA time period and my main is a Rogue. I'm an incredibly patient person but I've finally hit my limit and it's happened around the time of the great exodus to FF14 which is a game I've already been playing for several years so the choice of where to spend my time is easy. You KNOW it's bad when someone like me who's both very patient and been playing since '05 finally calls it quits. Me quitting might mean nothing overall to Blizzard but at least I can say it's been earned from a karmic perspective after years of abuse.
Abuse? Come on......you can't appease everyone in the world.....it wasn't abuse. You describe it as if you were married to blizzard and then they physically beat you each day you were home. That's abuse. When in reality it was a self indulged wedlock where you didn't like the color of the carpet in the house, but you went home everyday anyways. Your choice to play it when you didn't like it. That's on you. But don't claim you're being "abused"
@@jayr7613 It was working with the metaphor of an abusive relationship that was successfully used in the video.
It's like you didn't watch it...
@@skeletonwar4445 its just a poor choice of words when in reality it involves a willing choice to play a video game.
9:33 spent almost a year in a classic guild i didn't like but bis gearing was super easy and efficient. The moment my rogue was bis during the bwl tier i had reached the end because all future classic raids armor looked like dog shit.
Reinstalled FFXIV and spent a week playing around with all the act mods and timers without doing anything in game. That was more fun than clearing easy classic raids week after week.
I knew when they didn't bake artifacts into class at the end of legion this was going to happen. Classes were incomplete and felt like dogshit without complete artifacts. They refuse to fix classes. Classes are the vehicle that we interact with the game through and as such are so important.
"You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain"
Also this guy is really handsome...just saying
Huge gay male over here
@@dwightmanne use my lungs as your fléshlight free of charge 1984
@@dwightmanne Sounded a little gay to me
@@williambenedictblythebigcock Uber chad
Remember, even Henry Cavill said PC was the superior platform. Just sayin'.
12:10 the madlad putting Re:zero in chat
I salute him
18:30 Asmond face, needs to be a meme. Make it happen!
For some reason this video made me think of Wild Star. I really loved that game and was so crestfallen about how it ended up.