Did all the basic stuff and had my EMMO Zone GTS inspected at the Akron DMV but the title office refused to let me register it as a moped with just the serial number even though it can be classified as one. They want to register it as a motorcycle period meaning.i have to pay to get a state trooper inspection as well as a truck to take it all the way to Cleveland since there're only 2 actual inspection places in the whole state. All this because the EMMO models don't come with an MCO or a VIN number.
Mine took almost 3 months to get a plate in PA. reason for the wait is since it's from china they had to verify the vin #. They said years ago China would duplicate the Vin #
Last time I was at the DMV, I had a long wait. I was in there for almost 20 minutes. In Tennessee, we get out driver's license at the DMV. We get our tags at the courthouse, and we're in and out of there in 10 minutes on a busy day. At most, they send a deputy out to look at the bike and make sure all the lights work. California is f'n stupid. If it was a person, it would be diagnosed with a mental disorder. I'm forever an optimist though. I tend to think that Californians are really bored and that they keep voting for idiots just to make life more challenging.
I've had this exact bike now for over 3 months and I go 45-50 MPH all day long, maxing out at 55MPH. It's very stable up to 50MPH it's my opinion that this bike was not designed to go over 55 it starts to get a little squirrely at 55 so modifying this bike to go faster would include addressing this issue. I also go up hills at 40 MPH plus no problem. It is a lot of fun to ride and definitely a head-turner I live in Oregon and was able to fully register it as a motorcycle after I paid a $25.00 luxury tax to the IRS. ( I kid you not ). As far as the bike going into park when at a stop sign or light this is a safety feature that makes sure you don't let off the brake when stopped in traffic. Once you understand that it isn't an issue.
I have an electric unicycle with a 151 V motor and a nominal power rating of 3.2 kW with a peak power rating of 8 kW. And 2.7 kWh of storage. It's a beast! It has a cruising speed at over 55 miles an hour and cops don't seem to pay any attention to it because they don't know what the hell to call it!
My son registered the first Fiat 500e in Ohio. They told him he had to take it to get an emissions test. He said “but it’s electric”. They still wouldn’t let him register it. He contacted the State DMV and asked for an exemption, which they gave him. A year later he got his registration renewal letter and it said “emissions test required”…..
Just go get an emissions check. That's what we used to do in California for electric vehicles. The guy at the test shop will laugh but he'll take you're money.
Thanks for this review! I decided the M1PS was a pretty good bike from other reviews. And your hi-tech evaluation is a powerful affirmation to my previous impression...
Nice ride. I decided to get my first motor cycle since college when I turned 70. I didn't. But I did get a little 350W fixie e-bike a few years ago. I'll be 80 in a few weeks. I'll need a full physical to keep my D.L. but not for this beast! "I am here for a good time, not a long time!" BTW you mentioned the effect of cold on battery level. Got any data on that? I seem to have less range from my 7.5Ah battery at about freezing.
🤙 HARD CORE riding, You can expect a 20% decrease in range at low temps like that, maybe more depending on the exact battery cells inside the pack. Cold use will also work the battery harder, so you might start planning aftermarket battery for your ride. Expect a new battery every 2 years.
Very cool. I re-upped my motorcycle endorsement this past year after being away for a number of years. Worth it to take the MSF riders course, even if you've ridden before. I rode a lot of great cycles in the past, super interested in the new rather than new versions of the classics. They're cool too, but it's the 21st century after all!
Any drivers license course you can take every year, is a plus on your license and a discount on your insurance!!! Driver safety classes, DUI classes etc, even if you're not convicted of anything, especially then, you'll get pluses added to your license and that means cheaper insurance. You can get so many added per year and the most I believe is 3 extra points, so if you've been driving 15 years, multiply that by 3, that's 45 points to the good!!! You should be getting paid to have insurance with that many points!!! 3 points total is 1 point for each year nothing on record, (no tickets, accidents, etc.,) and 2 points for the safety class. If you have a clean record each year, you get 1 point regardless of if you go to the classes or not. Normally, the example above, no tickets or anything you'd only have 15 points on your record. 1 accident is like 3+ points and so is a speeding ticket! You get a deficit and you're license is void until you get the points up or retest or get lucky and the judge resets it for you.
@ 11:00 It shuts off after about 5 seconds at a red light (when you stop) which is kind of annoying, but if you keep holding the brake it will stay on.
This thing is so close to being perfect for me. It’s a 22 mile total commute to work on 45mph roads. I just can’t do the chopper styling. I’m a big dude I think I would look ridiculous and the guys at work would roast me. A road legal bike with at least 30 mile range and 50ish mph top speed for this price point that was styled more like a rx1e and I would be all in. Maybe the talaria dragon I’ve heard about will come road legal.
These are street legal in 25 states, hopefully yours is one of them. Also, you can unlock the program to get even a faster speed. There are plenty of videos out there that will show you how to do it.
I don't think it will go any faster on the top end. It's limited by the motor and voltage, not an electrical limit. If field weakening was programmed in we might squeeze a few more mph out of it. Bumping the current up might get more torque and acceleration, but won't likely change the top speed either.
Sounds like most DMV office employees. Most have no ability to think independently. I would go back to the same office and speak to manager have them call the main office if necessary.
This is consider a scooter since 2019. (In California) And it has a flat bottom so you can stand on, witch the law requires for you to have in order to ride it. I use the m1p and the m8. If you hit a car it’s like a bicycle accident. But if a car hits you, you can sue the driver and it treated as a (car accident )
@@jesusjimene1990 Cool PD wherever you live, dude go for it! I was simply stating the law as written in the California Vehicle Code. I always tell people don't take my word for it look it up for themselves. "No person shall operate a motorized scooter at a speed in excess of 15 miles per hour". Ca. Veh. Code § 22411 EFFECTIVE 1/1/2000. Added10/10/1999 (Bill Number: SB 441) (Chapter 722).
Most places have engine size, HP, and or "watts" output specifications that each category of two wheeled vehicles must adhere to. For example in the USA 750 watts or less (in most places) allows it to be classified as a bicycle (In places like Germany you are limited to pedal assist only, no throttles and once 20kph / 12.4mph is achieved the electric assistance must shut off). Typically up to 3000 watts (and limited to 30 mph) will fall under the "moped" / scooter range. Motorcycles are anything above that, to include the one in this video. Places like Florida do NOT require a driver's license for electric scooters/mopeds, but require them to be registered (about $3 a year). While other places require valid driver's licenses to use them, others require motorcycle licenses. It's a mess of laws and nothing is up to date.
I will tell you my DMV sotry: I was getting pulled over all the time on the road and got a warning as i had no plates.I can only speak for in CALifornia. You need to register it as motorcycle which is about $800, you need so inspect it at the DMV office. You also need M licence and you also need insurance. It is a complete headache but i got it done. its $70 insurance per yeasr and $250a year for registration renewal.
I've heard diff in Cali, did you try to register it as a moped... How were you riding it on the roads? Low-key or going all out and police see you playing sons of anarchy 😅
Have you tuned your far driver settings yet? Can you share any information on what the continuous Amp discharge of the battery is? Have you any info on the motors specs? I would like to tune mine when it gets here and I am looking for information that will need to be checked and input into the far driver app before auto learn is attempted. I am following direcrions from the basic fardriver tuning guide. There are some very good utubes on different tunes but nothing specifically for the M1PS....yet.
This is awesome. I sold both my motorcycles after my back surgery as I had foot drop and heal/toe shifters didn't sound like I wanted the effort anymore. I would gladly pick one of these up for just round town cruising, or the 2 seater option to take my kid to school. What do you expect the longevity is for this kind of thing? My kid is 7, if I got one now, would it make it until he's in HS and just give it to him?
Battery will likely need to be replaced. Looks like these can be ordered online from eAhora. I've also come across third party batteries online for a third to half the price of what eAhora charges. I'm not sure if the physical sizes would match though A replacement motor can be found online for around $1,000 - $2,000, depending if you want to get a stronger one or not. However, these are third party motors. Not sure if eAhora offers their own replacement motors. Doesn't look like the motor would be too hard to replace, or take too long to pay someone else to replace it... probably take less than an hr to do so. It consists of taking off and putting back on the brakes & wheel, with the addition of connecting the power cord.
I've had mine since May, I'm about to hit 2000miles. Still strong, very slight decrease in battery life. Maybe 3%. I've lowsided it the second time I took her out, that was at about 100miles or something. So 1900 miles after with no issue🎉
Hey Kyle yeah... the only thing I was hearing was I assumed tire and road noise... I really like the quite Stealth Mode... wish the Bicycle folks would or could achieve that. You could add sound LOL... it might take a little doing but I bet its do able... I wouldn't be surprised if the sensor could be adjusted for the dropping into park. There is the "Letter of the Law, and then there is the Spirit of the Law." One is banality with stiff neck mandatory no room for leeway as if it might say "It Shall Be." In contractual parlance that is a mandatory, as in it shall meet or exceed. The other is the Spirit of the intent a maybe or maybe not interpretive situation allowing general acceptance even if it isn't specific, but falls within the boundary of by the use of Common Sense. It address the spirit of the overall intent, but may disregard the Letter. And Underlings in these institutions fall under several categories... They will ware blinders and stick to the Letter and ware it like a cloak of protection because they can't reason for themselves and live in fear of retribution. Then we have the Critical thinkers who recognize the situation for what it is and address it head on, fearless of possible retribution. They feel power in their decision as well as possibly saving tax payers dollars in avoiding needless legislation, new forms printed, and just possibly saving a small forest in their acceptance. Mark Twain said, common sense is not so common.
I live in Modesto Ca. I have one too that goes 50mph. I have the first edition but I modded mine to a 72v 50ah and a 3000w controller. I been pulled over about 9 times since I had it and the police just let me go. They mostly just tell me to wear my helmet (one of the reasons I got pulled over) 😂.
I'm in Illinois, got my M1PS registered and plated without emissions. Just needed to pay the taxes and plates fees...$500+ 😢 But I'm legal now, only needed and L license "moped".
Wow that bike has all the good stuff. You can definitely turn up the tune and probably get that to go close to 75+mph. But make sure the battery has a 150a bms in it. An also hook up a Regen brake that you can work with a thumb throttle so it works like a brake lever or you use a different brake lever that has a sensor like throttle I cant think of the word lol. But it has great potential if it's built that good.
You can’t just throw a 150a bms on a battery and say it can put out 150a. Cluelessly doing that is no better then just bypassing the bms output. You limit your battery at 150a when the cells can only sustain 80a. There’s a reason they put the bms they did in it. Do you think they said hey let’s spend the extra money to make a battery that can put out way more Amperage then limit it just because
@@AaronSmith-mn2hu and apparently you don't read that good I said make sure the battery has a 150a bms in it and that would be continuous 150a. I'm sure he knows what I mean. He isn't a dumb person from what I can tell.
Had a similar situation with my electric golf cart. DMV didn't know how to register it. They told me I had to tow it to CHP. I called CHP, they didn't want anything to do with it. I ended up going to one of those DMV services places (google them in your area) they sent a guy to my house to verify it had all the necessary safety features horn, seat belts, lights, etc... within a few weeks of him coming out they called me to pick up my plates and registration stickers. (It did cost a few hundred bucks more for their services) but well worth it not having to hassle with the DMV in Southern California. As far as CHP/PD are concerned, they don't give a shit how it's registered as long as it's registered. Good luck.
back in day(60 years ago) living in pasadena the old ladies all had their electric golf carts running around--nobody gave a crap--you learned to drive around them--they were everywhere just like the electric trolleys everywhere in pasadena and LA----the trains have been diesel electric for 75 years--it is all "modern" nonsense
I just got my M1PS and assembled it, I don't have a motorbike license but was planning to register it as a scooter/Moped. Is that something that's possible for say Washington State? Also, would u say this would need full motorbike gear?
@@Area13ebikes thanks for responding! Did you have any issues with any of the plastic parts of the body of the bike? I found the battery cover to be really light on, on plastic and am worried it'll crack or fade overtime
I guess its good enough for the 45 mph roads around here...but damn seems a bit jittery...wth..hard tail or the road??? If you can't get a plate/registration then you can't go faster then 35ish....
Interesting that you are having registrations issues over the emissions sticker. Couple ideas 1 Can you go to a mechanic who does emissions testing and have them test it. I hope the mechanic does laugh you out of there. heck with the local DMV on this. 2 Call a neighboring state and see if you can register it there.
Just buy a spare and throw it in a backpack side saddle or something. If you look at the Juiced joyride video he zooms in on the battery and you can read all the sticker info
Go to your local power plant and get their emission documents or get it form the EPA. Since you're in California, the biggest electical vehicle advocate state, you'll probably have to drive Eastward, to another state. Only in California.
Interestingly enough, my state considers anything with two or 3 wheels and an electric motor of more than 750 watts to be a moped. There is no speed limit or power limit or pedal requirement. Now in reality the DMV has their own idea of what a moped is which they say is how the manufacturer classifies it which is ridiculous.
i'm on team "don't register it". so far so good, i have not been blue-lighted. but if i do.. i'm lying through my teeth and will point to my 'sleeper badges' and say "oh this hub motor is 750w and only goes 28mph top end" *SurRon class 3 750w decal on fork frame and Bafang 48V 750W01/BBSHD decal on the "tank" section where the stock wattage decal goes = lols fuck'em
Let me help here in texas DMV (TX DPS)its a ROV = A Recreational Off-Highway Vehicle (ROV) is a motor vehicle that: Has a seat or seats for the rider and one or more passengers Has four or more tires Is designed for off-highway use Is not designed by the manufacturer for farm or lawn care.
Wow the spec on that bike 4000watt motor and 28kw battery and only hitting 50mph. I have a talaria sting MX4 Stock I believe 8000watt motor with a 8kw battery on a 60v system I'm getting 58 max speed. I can get about 20 miles going that fast. Now I've upgraded to at 72v system 30kw battery on the same 8000 watt motor and I only topped out just to see what it would do and I reached 87mph. You want to go faster change your rear sprocket to a smaller sprocket
You're misunderstanding batteries and the types of motors these have. The talaria had twice the power. Batteries are measured in kwh which is a measurement of capacity, not wattage. This battery is 2.8kwh. Also it's a hub motor, there's no gearing to change.
Looks illegal as hell......I am pretty sure you have to have insurance and a license plate to be legal in most states unless you are on private property or an abandoned air strip.
Sure sounds like you are picking up a helluva wobble, your voice is like you are leaning on a washing machine on spin cycle which means more than likely the drive tire isnt balanced, as i have seen people raise the rear to show unrestricted speed, and the whole bike wobbles and shakes from the drive wheel spinning. Can you confirm that this is the case? that you are picking up a fair amount of unbalanced wheel wobble and if so did you find someone local who could balance those small tires? usually a power sports or golf cart place might be able to? (i see from the video the road wasnt glass smooth but your voice was really showing some "washing machine on spin cycle" sounds. Have you done the unlock using the pwr off - full throttle, hold breaks for 9 seconds, let go, power on, to get more speed ?
I cross the Mexico border daily, they are suspicious why I have no plate but the electric drivetrain trips them up everytime. No one knows what to do with this, especially since it looks so unique
Just get a ninja 250 60mpg 33hp does 105mph and your not a gay man on a hot wheels electric scooter ....you are all trying to achieve what the cheapest smallest Japanese bike will do with ease
What's your "fun" DMV story? ...
Been waiting for this video
Fun is not the word I'd use, here in France you have to go to the high chief of police office and they suc... K
Did all the basic stuff and had my EMMO Zone GTS inspected at the Akron DMV but the title office refused to let me register it as a moped with just the serial number even though it can be classified as one. They want to register it as a motorcycle period meaning.i have to pay to get a state trooper inspection as well as a truck to take it all the way to Cleveland since there're only 2 actual inspection places in the whole state. All this because the EMMO models don't come with an MCO or a VIN number.
Mine took almost 3 months to get a plate in PA. reason for the wait is since it's from china they had to verify the vin #. They said years ago China would duplicate the Vin #
Last time I was at the DMV, I had a long wait. I was in there for almost 20 minutes. In Tennessee, we get out driver's license at the DMV. We get our tags at the courthouse, and we're in and out of there in 10 minutes on a busy day. At most, they send a deputy out to look at the bike and make sure all the lights work. California is f'n stupid. If it was a person, it would be diagnosed with a mental disorder. I'm forever an optimist though. I tend to think that Californians are really bored and that they keep voting for idiots just to make life more challenging.
I've had this exact bike now for over 3 months and I go 45-50 MPH all day long, maxing out at 55MPH. It's very stable up to 50MPH it's my opinion that this bike was not designed to go over 55 it starts to get a little squirrely at 55 so modifying this bike to go faster would include addressing this issue. I also go up hills at 40 MPH plus no problem. It is a lot of fun to ride and definitely a head-turner I live in Oregon and was able to fully register it as a motorcycle after I paid a $25.00 luxury tax to the IRS. ( I kid you not ). As far as the bike going into park when at a stop sign or light this is a safety feature that makes sure you don't let off the brake when stopped in traffic. Once you understand that it isn't an issue.
Isn't the base model $1000 on Alibaba?
It's been 6months now, whats the quality like? Still have the range and power?
Quick question,were you able to registered it?
I have an electric unicycle with a 151 V motor and a nominal power rating of 3.2 kW with a peak power rating of 8 kW. And 2.7 kWh of storage. It's a beast! It has a cruising speed at over 55 miles an hour and cops don't seem to pay any attention to it because they don't know what the hell to call it!
My son registered the first Fiat 500e in Ohio. They told him he had to take it to get an emissions test. He said “but it’s electric”. They still wouldn’t let him register it. He contacted the State DMV and asked for an exemption, which they gave him. A year later he got his registration renewal letter and it said “emissions test required”…..
Just go get an emissions check. That's what we used to do in California for electric vehicles. The guy at the test shop will laugh but he'll take you're money.
Only in Ohio
ha ha ha the bureaucracy of it all
Gawd damned gubmint bull$h¡te! 😂😂😂
is this is the start of the new show Sons Of Enarchy.
😅
More like sons of electricity
Thanks for this review! I decided the M1PS was a pretty good bike from other reviews. And your hi-tech evaluation is a powerful affirmation to my previous impression...
Nice ride. I decided to get my first motor cycle since college when I turned 70. I didn't. But I did get a little 350W fixie e-bike a few years ago. I'll be 80 in a few weeks. I'll need a full physical to keep my D.L. but not for this beast! "I am here for a good time, not a long time!"
BTW you mentioned the effect of cold on battery level. Got any data on that? I seem to have less range from my 7.5Ah battery at about freezing.
80? You sir are here for a long time!! 😅😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
🤙 HARD CORE riding, You can expect a 20% decrease in range at low temps like that, maybe more depending on the exact battery cells inside the pack. Cold use will also work the battery harder, so you might start planning aftermarket battery for your ride. Expect a new battery every 2 years.
I have the red one. Dope af! I replaced the handle bars for shorter ones and a short rear fender.
Where did you get these mods for shorter handlebars and rear fender?
@@DamCrooksta through their website
Very cool. I re-upped my motorcycle endorsement this past year after being away for a number of years. Worth it to take the MSF riders course, even if you've ridden before. I rode a lot of great cycles in the past, super interested in the new rather than new versions of the classics. They're cool too, but it's the 21st century after all!
Any drivers license course you can take every year, is a plus on your license and a discount on your insurance!!! Driver safety classes, DUI classes etc, even if you're not convicted of anything, especially then, you'll get pluses added to your license and that means cheaper insurance. You can get so many added per year and the most I believe is 3 extra points, so if you've been driving 15 years, multiply that by 3, that's 45 points to the good!!! You should be getting paid to have insurance with that many points!!!
3 points total is 1 point for each year nothing on record, (no tickets, accidents, etc.,) and 2 points for the safety class.
If you have a clean record each year, you get 1 point regardless of if you go to the classes or not. Normally, the example above, no tickets or anything you'd only have 15 points on your record. 1 accident is like 3+ points and so is a speeding ticket! You get a deficit and you're license is void until you get the points up or retest or get lucky and the judge resets it for you.
@ 11:00 It shuts off after about 5 seconds at a red light (when you stop) which is kind of annoying, but if you keep holding the brake it will stay on.
This thing is so close to being perfect for me. It’s a 22 mile total commute to work on 45mph roads. I just can’t do the chopper styling. I’m a big dude I think I would look ridiculous and the guys at work would roast me. A road legal bike with at least 30 mile range and 50ish mph top speed for this price point that was styled more like a rx1e and I would be all in. Maybe the talaria dragon I’ve heard about will come road legal.
I may be showing some other options for you soon. 😉
These are street legal in 25 states, hopefully yours is one of them. Also, you can unlock the program to get even a faster speed. There are plenty of videos out there that will show you how to do it.
I don't think it will go any faster on the top end. It's limited by the motor and voltage, not an electrical limit. If field weakening was programmed in we might squeeze a few more mph out of it. Bumping the current up might get more torque and acceleration, but won't likely change the top speed either.
Definitely getting one,I own several motorsickles lolz but nothing wrong with an electric bike you don't have to worry about Many issues
Sounds like most DMV office employees. Most have no ability to think independently. I would go back to the same office and speak to manager have them call the main office if necessary.
This is consider a scooter since 2019. (In California) And it has a flat bottom so you can stand on, witch the law requires for you to have in order to ride it. I use the m1p and the m8. If you hit a car it’s like a bicycle accident. But if a car hits you, you can sue the driver and it treated as a (car accident )
Good work around except maximum speed for standup scooters in Cali is 15 mph (CVC §22411). Don’t get clocked over that and you’re fine, lol 😆
@@barnfresh3787 last I check with my local police department was 28 mph.
@@jesusjimene1990 Cool PD wherever you live, dude go for it! I was simply stating the law as written in the California Vehicle Code. I always tell people don't take my word for it look it up for themselves. "No person shall operate a motorized scooter at a speed in excess of 15 miles per hour". Ca. Veh. Code § 22411
EFFECTIVE 1/1/2000. Added10/10/1999 (Bill Number: SB 441) (Chapter 722).
I've done almost 2000mi on my M8 ..I ride to the beach and back home..🌴
I"m guessing the 150a controller is there in the case you added a second motor to the front wheel.
Cool emotorcycle! Why do you need a motorcycle license and why does it need to be registered with the DMV? Can you remove the battery for charging?
It's too fast to be considered a bicycle or moped. The only thing it can be is a motorcycle. The battery is easily removed and has a handle to carry.
Most places have engine size, HP, and or "watts" output specifications that each category of two wheeled vehicles must adhere to. For example in the USA 750 watts or less (in most places) allows it to be classified as a bicycle (In places like Germany you are limited to pedal assist only, no throttles and once 20kph / 12.4mph is achieved the electric assistance must shut off). Typically up to 3000 watts (and limited to 30 mph) will fall under the "moped" / scooter range. Motorcycles are anything above that, to include the one in this video. Places like Florida do NOT require a driver's license for electric scooters/mopeds, but require them to be registered (about $3 a year). While other places require valid driver's licenses to use them, others require motorcycle licenses. It's a mess of laws and nothing is up to date.
You just need to retune the controller settings, these are tuned conservatively for battery life
Have you retuned the controller? If so, how to video?
I will tell you my DMV sotry: I was getting pulled over all the time on the road and got a warning as i had no plates.I can only speak for in CALifornia. You need to register it as motorcycle which is about $800, you need so inspect it at the DMV office. You also need M licence and you also need insurance. It is a complete headache but i got it done. its $70 insurance per yeasr and $250a year for registration renewal.
I've heard diff in Cali, did you try to register it as a moped... How were you riding it on the roads? Low-key or going all out and police see you playing sons of anarchy 😅
Have you tuned your far driver settings yet? Can you share any information on what the continuous Amp discharge of the battery is? Have you any info on the motors specs? I would like to tune mine when it gets here and I am looking for information that will need to be checked and input into the far driver app before auto learn is attempted. I am following direcrions from the basic fardriver tuning guide. There are some very good utubes on different tunes but nothing specifically for the M1PS....yet.
This is awesome. I sold both my motorcycles after my back surgery as I had foot drop and heal/toe shifters didn't sound like I wanted the effort anymore. I would gladly pick one of these up for just round town cruising, or the 2 seater option to take my kid to school. What do you expect the longevity is for this kind of thing? My kid is 7, if I got one now, would it make it until he's in HS and just give it to him?
Probably will need a battery replacement at some point in time.
Battery will likely need to be replaced. Looks like these can be ordered online from eAhora. I've also come across third party batteries online for a third to half the price of what eAhora charges. I'm not sure if the physical sizes would match though
A replacement motor can be found online for around $1,000 - $2,000, depending if you want to get a stronger one or not. However, these are third party motors. Not sure if eAhora offers their own replacement motors.
Doesn't look like the motor would be too hard to replace, or take too long to pay someone else to replace it... probably take less than an hr to do so. It consists of taking off and putting back on the brakes & wheel, with the addition of connecting the power cord.
I've had mine since May, I'm about to hit 2000miles. Still strong, very slight decrease in battery life. Maybe 3%. I've lowsided it the second time I took her out, that was at about 100miles or something. So 1900 miles after with no issue🎉
It sounds like you are feeling every Bump in the road in your voice. Am I wrong or right?
Please wear a yellow or orange vest for extra visibility
We like your channel man and we don’t any harm to happen to you by another vehicle.
Thank you for the research, effort, and video.
Hey Kyle yeah... the only thing I was hearing was I assumed tire and road noise... I really like the quite Stealth Mode... wish the Bicycle folks would or could achieve that. You could add sound LOL... it might take a little doing but I bet its do able... I wouldn't be surprised if the sensor could be adjusted for the dropping into park. There is the "Letter of the Law, and then there is the Spirit of the Law." One is banality with stiff neck mandatory no room for leeway as if it might say "It Shall Be." In contractual parlance that is a mandatory, as in it shall meet or exceed. The other is the Spirit of the intent a maybe or maybe not interpretive situation allowing general acceptance even if it isn't specific, but falls within the boundary of by the use of Common Sense. It address the spirit of the overall intent, but may disregard the Letter. And Underlings in these institutions fall under several categories... They will ware blinders and stick to the Letter and ware it like a cloak of protection because they can't reason for themselves and live in fear of retribution. Then we have the Critical thinkers who recognize the situation for what it is and address it head on, fearless of possible retribution. They feel power in their decision as well as possibly saving tax payers dollars in avoiding needless legislation, new forms printed, and just possibly saving a small forest in their acceptance. Mark Twain said, common sense is not so common.
Excited for the scrambler video!
Just for the record it's NOT a motorcycle. I lived in Indiana and now Minnesota and they both said it was a moped.
I’m thinking about getting one , upgrading from a super 73 to that
Going to stock these? What about the leathers and helmets?!?
Haha! Leathers idk... but we already carry Kali bicycle helmets, and they also make great motorcycle helmets too. 😀
Thank you! Love the video. Did you figure you if you can reprogram the controller to go faster? I will also contact you about some business as well.
I live in Modesto Ca. I have one too that goes 50mph. I have the first edition but I modded mine to a 72v 50ah and a 3000w controller. I been pulled over about 9 times since I had it and the police just let me go. They mostly just tell me to wear my helmet (one of the reasons I got pulled over) 😂.
I'm in Illinois, got my M1PS registered and plated without emissions. Just needed to pay the taxes and plates fees...$500+ 😢 But I'm legal now, only needed and L license "moped".
Wow that bike has all the good stuff. You can definitely turn up the tune and probably get that to go close to 75+mph. But make sure the battery has a 150a bms in it. An also hook up a Regen brake that you can work with a thumb throttle so it works like a brake lever or you use a different brake lever that has a sensor like throttle I cant think of the word lol. But it has great potential if it's built that good.
You can’t just throw a 150a bms on a battery and say it can put out 150a. Cluelessly doing that is no better then just bypassing the bms output. You limit your battery at 150a when the cells can only sustain 80a. There’s a reason they put the bms they did in it. Do you think they said hey let’s spend the extra money to make a battery that can put out way more Amperage then limit it just because
@@AaronSmith-mn2hu well that's common sense I would think.
@@AaronSmith-mn2hu and apparently you don't read that good I said make sure the battery has a 150a bms in it and that would be continuous 150a. I'm sure he knows what I mean. He isn't a dumb person from what I can tell.
@@oldmanebikes8392 he tells you the size if the bms and yiu saud make sure you put a 150a on it no mention of checking what it can handle
@@AaronSmith-mn2hu lol read it again I said make sure it HAS a 150a bms in it. No where do I say for him to PUT a bms in it
Is that front wheel balanced? you have quite a lot of vibration there. Can it be balanced?
I believe if you hold the brakes while stopped at a light, it won't get out of gear.
You should take it to Bike Week at Daytona Beach!!!
Hold the break when u turn it on 10 seconds then turn off then restart the bike it turns the limiters off
I've been wanting to see this thing at a motorcycle event. Curious what the Harley crowd thinks about it
Someone else said that they had an emissions paper when they got theirs.
By the sound of your voice riding it , Its bouncy or it has vibration .....
Do you need a motorcycle endorsement in Fl for this bike?
Do they sell them with Springer front end
Sounds like a rough ride. A lot of vibration. Is it a hard ride?
We’re you able to get a faster speed changing the breaker?
That breaker is for electrical protection, don't play with it without understanding
Is there a way to adjust the speed on it for each gears?
Had a similar situation with my electric golf cart. DMV didn't know how to register it. They told me I had to tow it to CHP. I called CHP, they didn't want anything to do with it. I ended up going to one of those DMV services places (google them in your area) they sent a guy to my house to verify it had all the necessary safety features horn, seat belts, lights, etc... within a few weeks of him coming out they called me to pick up my plates and registration stickers. (It did cost a few hundred bucks more for their services) but well worth it not having to hassle with the DMV in Southern California. As far as CHP/PD are concerned, they don't give a shit how it's registered as long as it's registered. Good luck.
back in day(60 years ago) living in pasadena the old ladies all had their electric golf carts running around--nobody gave a crap--you learned to drive around them--they were everywhere just like the electric trolleys everywhere in pasadena and LA----the trains have been diesel electric for 75 years--it is all "modern" nonsense
I just got my M1PS and assembled it, I don't have a motorbike license but was planning to register it as a scooter/Moped. Is that something that's possible for say Washington State?
Also, would u say this would need full motorbike gear?
Moped plate is very easy in California. Since it has a VIN I would assume it might be easier to do than motorcycle registration.
And I would definitely recommend a motorcycle helmet!
@@Area13ebikes thanks for responding! Did you have any issues with any of the plastic parts of the body of the bike? I found the battery cover to be really light on, on plastic and am worried it'll crack or fade overtime
hi, were you able to register it as a moped? Thanks!
keep me posted....if you do any mods to increase performance.....i'm listening
When people from other states talk smack about our state it sometimes pisses me off but come on DMV
You have to admit there are some pretty stupid things going on in California the last few years.
I guess its good enough for the 45 mph roads around here...but damn seems a bit jittery...wth..hard tail or the road???
If you can't get a plate/registration then you can't go faster then 35ish....
Are 'farts' emissions? and Cali. has stickers?, I want one for my ebike.
Only from cows 😄
They should include sound simulator like ecars have...
Interesting that you are having registrations issues over the emissions sticker. Couple ideas
1 Can you go to a mechanic who does emissions testing and have them test it. I hope the mechanic does laugh you out of there. heck with the local DMV on this.
2 Call a neighboring state and see if you can register it there.
upgradeable af !
Hello Sir, what are the exact dimensions of the Eahora Mp1s 72volt battery?
I want to buy this bike but would prefer a 65-70ah battery.
Just buy a spare and throw it in a backpack side saddle or something. If you look at the Juiced joyride video he zooms in on the battery and you can read all the sticker info
Upgraded the Helmet. How about armor? Fonzie jacket. Oh yeah.
You should check out gt20 e-bike not that much content on it yet
This should be a question for DEQ since it’s about emissions. If Zero electric motorcycles qualify as zero emissions so should this motorcycle.
Go to your local power plant and get their emission documents or get it form the EPA. Since you're in California, the biggest electical vehicle advocate state, you'll probably have to drive Eastward, to another state. Only in California.
Do you need a motorcycle license?
These things are a vibe...i hate engine noise and all that you just get on these and go.
These bikes looks awesome but they would be perfect with the specs of the K6 scooter (extreme bull)
Interestingly enough, my state considers anything with two or 3 wheels and an electric motor of more than 750 watts to be a moped. There is no speed limit or power limit or pedal requirement. Now in reality the DMV has their own idea of what a moped is which they say is how the manufacturer classifies it which is ridiculous.
Manufacturer classified this as a scooter 😅
@@andyfumo8931 maybe bc of the wheel size?
It's sold as a scooter and California laws require scooter's to adhere to all bicycle laws .
From the sound of your voice while riding, the suspension very much sucks on that thing.
You also underestimate some california roads! They're pretty rough in some parts of town.
Yep, just look how it skips on the dyno pull. I'd say also wheels need balancing too what with having cheap china tires on.
I know someone out there has a program for sounds if you want some noise. Hell I heard a Tesla sound like a V8 😊😊😂😂😂
I'd honestly consider getting this over a gas scooter tbh
"Motorcycle" Best joke i have heard today,
Just because you don't put liquid in it doesn't mean its not a motorcycle.
Someone needs to check the dictionary... Mo·tor·cy·cle Noun 1. a two-wheeled vehicle that is powered by a motor and has no pedals. 🤷♂
Definitely a motorcycle to me
that is badass 😊
I doesn't sound "r.e.eee.aaaa.llll...yyy s.mm.ooo.ttt.hhh" 😂
I think your tire is out of balance ...it should be smoother
i'm on team "don't register it".
so far so good, i have not been blue-lighted. but if i do.. i'm lying through my teeth and will point to my 'sleeper badges' and say "oh this hub motor is 750w and only goes 28mph top end"
*SurRon class 3 750w decal on fork frame and Bafang 48V 750W01/BBSHD decal on the "tank" section where the stock wattage decal goes = lols fuck'em
Can we get one of these bikes in Canada , and if so where.
It's all fun and games, until it burns your freaking house down.
Let me help here in texas DMV (TX DPS)its a ROV =
A Recreational Off-Highway Vehicle (ROV) is a motor vehicle that:
Has a seat or seats for the rider and one or more passengers
Has four or more tires
Is designed for off-highway use
Is not designed by the manufacturer for farm or lawn care.
Mod that thing to hell 😉
Modifications will come... 😀
Just take it to a auto repair shop or the sheriff's office and have it certified.
If only it was that simple...
Wow the spec on that bike 4000watt motor and 28kw battery and only hitting 50mph. I have a talaria sting MX4 Stock I believe 8000watt motor with a 8kw battery on a 60v system I'm getting 58 max speed. I can get about 20 miles going that fast. Now I've upgraded to at 72v system 30kw battery on the same 8000 watt motor and I only topped out just to see what it would do and I reached 87mph. You want to go faster change your rear sprocket to a smaller sprocket
You're misunderstanding batteries and the types of motors these have. The talaria had twice the power. Batteries are measured in kwh which is a measurement of capacity, not wattage. This battery is 2.8kwh. Also it's a hub motor, there's no gearing to change.
@@Area13ebikes I did'n't realize it was a hub motor but what i meant in the battery kw is what the battery is capable of pulling
@@draggerlane04090 this does not have a battery capable of 28kw.
Love the Choppers but I honestly don't like that wide of a fish eye lens your like 10% of the video squished.
Great job filming this on the country roads
Ah yes, your electric bike has an emissions problem.
Looks like the suspension sucks.
Can you just tell cops that you got it on Amazon for $699?
LMAO emissions sticker.
Built in China?
Looks illegal as hell......I am pretty sure you have to have insurance and a license plate to be legal in most states unless you are on private property or an abandoned air strip.
Sure sounds like you are picking up a helluva wobble, your voice is like you are leaning on a washing machine on spin cycle which means more than likely the drive tire isnt balanced, as i have seen people raise the rear to show unrestricted speed, and the whole bike wobbles and shakes from the drive wheel spinning. Can you confirm that this is the case? that you are picking up a fair amount of unbalanced wheel wobble and if so did you find someone local who could balance those small tires? usually a power sports or golf cart place might be able to? (i see from the video the road wasnt glass smooth but your voice was really showing some "washing machine on spin cycle" sounds.
Have you done the unlock using the pwr off - full throttle, hold breaks for 9 seconds, let go, power on, to get more speed ?
2hrs ride time? Lmao!
20mph up a hill is heaven not pedeling...sheesh.
The steepest the hill, the more exhilarating the ride...
Just wait til you get pulled running at 50+ miles per hour and they throw the book at you !!!!
I'm trying to register it. CHP told me twice already (incorrectly) that I don't have to! I'm well aware of what it needs. 😀
I cross the Mexico border daily, they are suspicious why I have no plate but the electric drivetrain trips them up everytime. No one knows what to do with this, especially since it looks so unique
Id still rather get the ZooZ bike
They need ... Emissions information ... On an electric vehicle? Mhmmmmmm
Jealous until the DMV part 😀
A really big no on this!!!!
Way too expensive for any bike especially when it can't carry multiple people nor use a universal charger....
Can you say Chinese junk!😂
emission sticker on electric vehicle? that sounds so dumb. 🤣🤣🤣
Emissions sticker. It's electric... why do DMV peeps act like robots, such a pain in the butt.
Just get a ninja 250 60mpg 33hp does 105mph and your not a gay man on a hot wheels electric scooter ....you are all trying to achieve what the cheapest smallest Japanese bike will do with ease
who cares go 70 mph?