Good, fast, hard, but respectful racing! Neither chucked their car into a corner whether they could stay on track or not or just expect the other to give way due to their divine providence. And they did it while forced to shift with their left hands!
@@Joshua_N-A Yes but his point stands. It doesnt take long to relearnnshiting side either way imo. I shift lefty irl but righty in sims and its never caused me issues.
This is racing without team bosses constantly complaining to race directors about the behaviour of their driver's competitor swapping places with him. This is GREAT racing, I LOVE it!
They're running in the Improved Production series, from Australia. It's a support series for the V8 Supercars, but in all honesty, I'd go for these guys over the big names. They're real cars sold in a showroom for street use, not tube frame chassis with a body that looks vaguely like the car name plastered on it somewhere.
Set up right, which clearly this is, the solid axle is less a problem than you might think... (I raced a AE86 for more than 20 years). Was a great little car.
solid axle is more predictable than trailing arms, easier to drift as the tyres stay parallel to the road in vaying conditions. Trailing arms and wishbones can change camber suddenly if unloaded in a bend and unexpectedly reduce grip, resulting in uncatchable oversteer. Cornering hard on the street and touching a patch of leaves will cause a crash. I know people who have changed to a solid axle from wishbone for that reason, as predictability gives confidence which allows you to push harder. Having said all that, independant suspension well set up, will ultimately give greater traction on track.
Had an AE86 two decades ago now own a 86 E30 wide body and it’s a big difference in performance having independent suspension for track. Miss my hachi, but luv my E30 😎 both great cars.
@@clumsygarage1578 every time e30 is coming close yo the camera i can hear v8 and not a regular one but an m60/62, search on youtube sound of m60/62 and every inline 6 from m20 to n54 and you wont hear anything from this video, i drive bmws and I love inline 6, so I surely know the sound.
They both have 4 cylinders 🤦🏻♂️ the e30 never came with a 3.0 i6, only 2.5 but even then, the M3 came with the 4 and this car has 4 too. Y’all deaf lmao
They're both Improved Production cars. Both are heavily modified within the rules, e30 has a wild 6cly engine, not sure exactly but i think S50 engine. AE86 has late model turbo engine but has a 36mm intake restrictor. Both must retain original headlights in working order
@@chrisvei6293 Hi Chris. Rules vary a little between Pre 1986 (Early Model) and post 1986 (Late Model) I think the AE68 is Early Model and the E30 Late Model. Early Model have more restrictions with aero and smaller rim/tyre size. But can run flares and have no weight limits even with an engine change to a different engine, but engine must be from the same manufacturer and same cylinders/configuration, turbo with 36mm intake restrictor can be added. Late Model have more aero and larger rims, but cant have flares. Late Model also are usually heavier as the new cars are generally heavier. You can change the engine to a different type so long as its the same manufacturer and configuration, turbo can not be added if it wasn't factory fitted in the car. If you change the engine you have a minimum weight to adhere to. All Improved Production cars must run factory suspension arms with rubber/nolothane bushes (No heim joints). Must have factory panels, doors and so on. Must have glass (No lexan) and all windows must go up and down as per factory. The dash and plastic surrounds must be in place. Gearbox is free so long as its no more than 6 speed and H pattern, dog box are allowed. The rules allow for close racing with cars that have strengths and weaknesses in different areas.
I think i have seen this 86 on other video, ot went against a red honda civic. The civic was so much faster in corners while this 86 has superb straight line performance. The civic hold on a few laps then it got overtook and its done for him. This time this 86 take on the M3 and no more advantage.
Idk much about 86s but maybe this one has different suspension since it looked pretty heavily modified. Otherwise it’s probably just lightness and bravery letting it keep up with the E30.
The AE is still competing in the South Australian IPRA Championship and we believe will most likely to compete in the next IPRA Nationals scheduled for QLD in 2022.
Two car from an era when driving was pure and fun
The golden era of motorsport as some people call it.
I have a mk2 gti , I'm still having fun :D. No electronics, control assistants, only hardcore. Hi from RUS.
Exactly. E30 everyday
This is on point.
@@Joshua_N-A i would say legendary
I just got my 318is back ! Boy this battle lights me up!
E36 ?
@@dofrondemeraude5607 pretty sure e30 318
@@lukekolodziej9631 why not 318is e30?
@@TopiAS06 that’s what I meant, oops
Good, fast, hard, but respectful racing! Neither chucked their car into a corner whether they could stay on track or not or just expect the other to give way due to their divine providence. And they did it while forced to shift with their left hands!
It's easier shifting (gross movement) with the left while steering with the right (fine movement), given most people in the world are right handed.
@@viduranisal yet majority of traffic in the world drives on the right meaning steering wheel is on the left side.
@@Joshua_N-A Yes but his point stands. It doesnt take long to relearnnshiting side either way imo. I shift lefty irl but righty in sims and its never caused me issues.
@@viduranisal I’m left handed and drive a RHD car and even if I don’t need to change gear I still only drive with my right hand
This is racing without team bosses constantly complaining to race directors about the behaviour of their driver's competitor swapping places with him. This is GREAT racing, I LOVE it!
It's the sort of racing we live for!
They're running in the Improved Production series, from Australia. It's a support series for the V8 Supercars, but in all honesty, I'd go for these guys over the big names. They're real cars sold in a showroom for street use, not tube frame chassis with a body that looks vaguely like the car name plastered on it somewhere.
Props to the AE86, for having a rear rigid axle it drives well.
Set up right, which clearly this is, the solid axle is less a problem than you might think... (I raced a AE86 for more than 20 years). Was a great little car.
@@noaht2005 no it’s not
@@msengineeringdavid3148 that’s just what I heard. I’ll. retract my comment
@@noaht2005 on a track with stiff suspension it isn't a huge problem.
on a street it does show it's oversteering tendency more then on a track
solid axle is more predictable than trailing arms, easier to drift as the tyres stay parallel to the road in vaying conditions. Trailing arms and wishbones can change camber suddenly if unloaded in a bend and unexpectedly reduce grip, resulting in uncatchable oversteer. Cornering hard on the street and touching a patch of leaves will cause a crash. I know people who have changed to a solid axle from wishbone for that reason, as predictability gives confidence which allows you to push harder. Having said all that, independant suspension well set up, will ultimately give greater traction on track.
Had an AE86 two decades ago now own a 86 E30 wide body and it’s a big difference in performance having independent suspension for track. Miss my hachi, but luv my E30 😎 both great cars.
Absolutely breathe taking battle!
No DRS, no sh*t!
Pure driving fun! ✌
This twin cam and a eg civic also had some awesome races!
Yes Jordan Cox IIRC
Great to watch! Classic battle I never knew was happening 👍
15 years ago I had a E30 and AE86. I miss both cars 😭
If nothing else, at least you have the memories! :)
Very cool! Two cars and drivers closely matched, and this is how you should race.
i love both cars..i mean they came out at the same era...AE86 vs E30...well i want the AE86 to win despite i'm a big old bmw fan...
They were both developed by the same group of ppl
Nah mate I think we all want the E30 to win ahahahah 😝
@@mpower320i Not me, Hachiroku FTW!!! Tho the E30 is a decent car.
@@mpower320i yeah no lol
Heretic! There can be only the holy BMW.
A well tuned 86 is still a force to be reckoned with.
And still sucks if other sportcar will be tuned too
@@Lancia_Delta_Integrale same as other cars it just matters the tune and the driver thats it
It's a car that only exists because on an anime
Dude people in Japan literally learned to drift with this car and that's why they are so good, anime is a cool bonus
@@user-kr1or1hm4v No
The episode of Initial D we all wanted but never got.
I was so rootin' for that little Corolla. Great cars, I've owned two.
E30 sounds so damn good
We need racing events like this in California
Lool fuck cali
Come race Lemons or Lucky Dog or Champcar with us, it's similar with all different kinds of cars.
I never should have sold my wonderful E30
Awesome watching these cars move around can really tell they are dancing with the car
Fantastic battle! Subbed for more!!!
E30 : I have a 3.0 straight six.
86 : I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.
The e30 has v8 m60-62o or even maybe s62 the sound is quite clear, so i suppose at least 300hp on e30.
@@АзаматБидов are you sure you’re not hearing the V8 car in front of it? Unless the M60 revs really high then this doesn’t sound like a V8 to me.
@@clumsygarage1578 every time e30 is coming close yo the camera i can hear v8 and not a regular one but an m60/62, search on youtube sound of m60/62 and every inline 6 from m20 to n54 and you wont hear anything from this video, i drive bmws and I love inline 6, so I surely know the sound.
They both have 4 cylinders 🤦🏻♂️ the e30 never came with a 3.0 i6, only 2.5 but even then, the M3 came with the 4 and this car has 4 too. Y’all deaf lmao
@@АзаматБидов how could u not hear that m4x? Jfc dude
Thank god no drifting but racing :)
Awesome! This was a well matched battle. Real cars, real drivers! Current day paddle shifter wallet racer garbage is for the birds.
That e30 is doing quite well against more modified car. Even has real headlights.
They're both Improved Production cars. Both are heavily modified within the rules, e30 has a wild 6cly engine, not sure exactly but i think S50 engine. AE86 has late model turbo engine but has a 36mm intake restrictor. Both must retain original headlights in working order
@@BarnettMotorsport is the ae86 track wider? I can imagine they both walk the line for rules placed.
@@chrisvei6293 Hi Chris. Rules vary a little between Pre 1986 (Early Model) and post 1986 (Late Model)
I think the AE68 is Early Model and the E30 Late Model.
Early Model have more restrictions with aero and smaller rim/tyre size. But can run flares and have no weight limits even with an engine change to a different engine, but engine must be from the same manufacturer and same cylinders/configuration, turbo with 36mm intake restrictor can be added.
Late Model have more aero and larger rims, but cant have flares. Late Model also are usually heavier as the new cars are generally heavier. You can change the engine to a different type so long as its the same manufacturer and configuration, turbo can not be added if it wasn't factory fitted in the car. If you change the engine you have a minimum weight to adhere to.
All Improved Production cars must run factory suspension arms with rubber/nolothane bushes (No heim joints). Must have factory panels, doors and so on. Must have glass (No lexan) and all windows must go up and down as per factory. The dash and plastic surrounds must be in place.
Gearbox is free so long as its no more than 6 speed and H pattern, dog box are allowed.
The rules allow for close racing with cars that have strengths and weaknesses in different areas.
I miss my 86. I wish I never sold it, as today the price for one is just crazy.
The exhaust blare of the E30 when up it for the rent! Awesome.
Couldn't agree more!
Awesome work.
Loved it, subbed 😎👍
That's awesome! Thanks for joining us!
E30 for Life
I was the owner of both the e30 and the Ae86 . The e30 is by far a billion times better in all respect.
There are a lot of positives that the E30 brings to the table as a drivers car!
That was very entertaining! Nice sounds.
The 'Perfect Mix!'...
Bmw driver knows best traction line in that long right hander. Brilliant racing, both drivers.
My uncle had it before I was born but he had an ae86 trueno my mom told me about it and she said it was a beautiful car to just look at
that e30 looks sooo cool
Ae86 definitely has the speed advantage, but bmws braking and handling is clearly better. But only marginally to close the gap on a corner
In swedish rallycross they use to put a rigid rear axle from Volvo on the M3 E30s..
2.5L vs 1.6L ?
That dude in ae86 is insane i have already seen couple vids with him.
Man this must have been the golden age.
Eurobeat Intensifies!!!!
Ae86 yes please. And thank you
I meed more racing series’s like this
Epic battle. Loved it
Great racing but that bmw looks stock, the 86 doesn’t just saying. but great racing regardless!
Doubt either are stock under the hood
Yea bro that e30 is far from stock lol...doesn't sound stock and doesn't body roll like stock haha both are highly modified
That ist real Motorsport 👍👍👍 Great fight and awesome Cars😎
Even though i hate orange
Thats a sick looking e30
AE86 doesn't have the 4A-GE, it sounds like a 3S-GTE, hmm Aussies?
You're correct. That 86 has a 3SGTE from a Celica
E30 for ever
That was one hell of a ride. And I Luv it!
E30 sounds great!
Somebody needs to put eurobeat over this
Why did the e30 give up the inside of the first big turn? Seemed like a strange move.
Solid axle vs irs
Awesome racing..
Are these straight cut gear transmissions or something? Or are these guys just cracked at shifting?
Something is up? Was thinking the same thing. No synchros dog box
That E30 looks tiny, but my E21 is even smaller ;)
Having jordan cox in on this battle would be something to behold
Maybe at the next IPRA Nationals it can be arranged. 😉
The Zook is one crazy piece of equipment!
is that Ae86 16V 4ag?
Nope, a 3SGTE from a Celica
Man the 6 cyl in the BMW is so loud. Ridiculous
S14 4 cylinder I believe
Definitely a S14 4 pot, also insanely loud lol
Cool battle....
I think i have seen this 86 on other video, ot went against a red honda civic. The civic was so much faster in corners while this 86 has superb straight line performance. The civic hold on a few laps then it got overtook and its done for him. This time this 86 take on the M3 and no more advantage.
Yeh, 3sgte under the hood If I remember correctly
A lad named Jordan Cox drive that Civic, said to have a B20 under the bonnet, I think.
BMW E30 what a Legend Love it❤👏💪
our battle will be legendary
Sounds like Tai Lung lol
"I know, I'll let him past, catch his slip, then outbrake HIM in the next corner HAHAAAA!"
nnnnnnnnNOPE!
Isnt this the same ae86 that battled the red honda civic back in adelaide some years ago?
Yes. That's Chris Brown's AE86 Levin. He had that battle with Jordan Cox's EG6 in Adelaide
Liked it, love it!
Awesome! We love it when the brilliant racing in Grass Roots Australia is seen!
takumi finally made a career out of tofu delivery
That's a *levin* it's either wataru or itsuki.
Can't beat NA sound 👌🏻
Oh yeah, that noiissseee!
Is jordan cox still racing with his EG6?
So pure.
Imagine an E30 fastback coupe
is that AE86 running a 2.0L engine in a 2.5L Class?
Maybe its supercharged to compensate for displacement?
Well done
E30 has independent rear suspension. It should have major advantage over the live axle of the Corolla. Well, no.
Idk much about 86s but maybe this one has different suspension since it looked pretty heavily modified. Otherwise it’s probably just lightness and bravery letting it keep up with the E30.
The AE86 is a good car and i like the Toyota AE86. Toyota FTW!
beema sounds sick !!
In 80‘s ， btcc mainly race car are e30,190e,ae86 etc
Geiler Fight !!!
Is this AE still running? Or is this from the "vault"? Either way thanks!
The AE is still competing in the South Australian IPRA Championship and we believe will most likely to compete in the next IPRA Nationals scheduled for QLD in 2022.
good show boys!!
What a great exchange.
Sadly I can't enjoy it as much as I want to due to the motorsport gatekeepers in the comments.
Anybody know what motor is in the E30 or info on it?
Let's be honest....you click expecting a drift battle..
Incredible BMW sound
Up next.. E30 M3 vs A80 Supra 😀
BATTLE OF LEGENDS😱
What's the engine E30 though?
Nice..
It's the same car from thar Initial D meme video,I remember the livery
what is the engine of 86?
I think I saw this 86 somewhere before..it has the Toyota calica engine 190hp.
Think it was a boosted beams 3sge engine
Yes
That M3 sound oh gosh we can barely hear the AE86
4AGE 16v or 20V ??? VS Bmw 4zylinder or 6 Zylinder ?? 320 or 323,325,328??
3SGTE vs straight 6 (i don't know the engine names of BMW)
No clutch?
this is the only race that only depends on skill and mistake than the car performance
Where the Eurobeat at?? 😭
hello from USA. send help
Lol
@@matteo_syd7271 loooool
No bugger off :-) lol
What the fuck do you need help for?
@@mdrumt What's that?
Its feels weird if you see video of ae86 not drifting
Anyone know the power of both cars ? Twincam for me but E30 sounded better 👍