Clutch replacement on 2005 BMW R 1200 GS
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- Join George & Wes in another Nicht Uber Max tech video from the BMW Motorcycle Owners of America. This time they tackle the dry clutch on a hexhead R 1200 GS. Share the laughter, the tears, the joy, the grease and the Doritos as our stalwart heroes muscle through another day in the shop.
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Just putting mine back together after doing the clutch (2005 GS). small garage , no assistant, but I'm enjoying it. Nice video. 🙂
Mine, a 2006, was in the garage for weeks on. I was desperate to get it done and running. Now I understand the trouble Victor my mechanic went through getting it fixed. My word! 👍
Appreciate you posting this - very helpful! Right at that same mileage on my 06 R1200GS...
hat's off for the job! I did the entire thing, replaced the o-rings inside, gave it a thorough clean and now after 5,000km... the clutch began to leak... I dread doing this all over again....
Nice job, Wes!
one day, i hope to have a GS. Test rode one at Barber and was blown away. felt soo good.
so did you get one already ?
Cracking video Wes
Great video! I've got 55K on mine and I think it's starting to slip. I've done the job on an R11GS, not fun, not looking forward to it, but this video will help!
Thank you for the video! I went out on some trails last week and got in the sand. I think I overworked the clutch, and now its slipping. At 94K, I;m sure it was due to be replaced soon anyhow.
Good job and thanks for the info on the friction plate upgrade . . .
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Great video
In the market for a GS and the clutch job on the aircooled models has been a point of hesitation for me, BUT the aircooled models have a certain charm that I do like. Your video helped demonstrate that while this is definitely an involved process, it is still very much doable if you have a bit of wrenching experience! Thanks for this!
Airhead clutch jobs are easier - you can remove the transmission without splitting the bike like this. This process on the 2005 GS is for the hexheads.
@@BMWMOAorg Thanks for the reply!! Just to be sure I understand 100%, I thought "airhead" meant anything prior to 2013 when it went water cooled. Would a 2010-2012 entail a different process than the 2005?
@@GVMotoring Airheads are the 2-valve air(only)-cooled boxers from 1970-93/94 (anything R 100 or smaller). Oilheads are the air/oil-cooled 4V boxers from 1994-2003/04 (R 1100/1150 & R 1200 C, which is really an 1150 but bored out a bit). Hexheads start 2004/05 (R 1200) then move to Camheads around 2011 IIRC (could be wrong on that). Wetheads are liquid-cooled boxers starting 2013/14 (R 1200) until the advent of the 1250 boxers.
@@BMWMOAorg I truly appreciate you taking the time to share all of that info!!! I'm absolutely drawn to the boxer engine so fingers crossed I can find a good spec GS in my area for a great price!! All the best!
I really want a R18 but I have the same reservations
20k on mine,nice to see what to do in the future or better yet,not ever!" Good vid,thank you.
Great Video, I hope I Will Never do that Job on my 2011 Adventure GS 😖
Great Video !!!!
Fantastic
Thank you very much!
You're welcome!
Great Vid ! Thanks, I've seen a few on YT. Be really interested to know how many miles you got before it started to fail. I've recent bought a GS .... really great bike but like others I'm dreading the day ( Hopefully Never) if the clutch go's.
Thanks
Roj,
England (now not in the EU !)
George is a BMWMOA Northern Va Treasured Resource,...
Great video sir! Thank you. Real quick, My '12 R1200GSA is hitting only on the left cylinder. I was cruising home on the highway and the rt. cylinder just dropped out. Plugs are good and I swapped uppers with lowers and right to left and confirmed they all spark while cranking as held to the frame. I bought two new primary coils and installed them with no change and even swapped in the event I got a bad brand new part. I do have an O2 sensor #1 code (271A) that comes up in Moto Scan so I removed them both, cleaned them and swapped them and the same code returned. I swapped lower coils, though they didn't fit I still got them connected and snapped in with no change. I confirmed both injectors spray fuel in a good pattern while cranking the bike but bought a new one for the right side anyway and installed in to no avail. The throttle body valve does turn with throttle twist as I could feel it with my fingers. The bike will fire up on just the left cylinder but the right cylinder, with spark and fuel does not want to fire! Thanks for reading so far sir, and if you would please let me know what else I could try I would greatly appreciate it sir. TY
The last bike I saw that suddenly stopped working on one side had a burned/broken exhaust valve. That's a worst-case scenario for sure, but it's worth putting a scope in there to check the integrity of the valves.
@@BMWMOAorg Thank you for that. It's at a dealer now and will get diagnosed NLT 05 April so I should have an update as to what the fix is.
Brilliant piece of engineering by BMW! I don't know why HD doesn't emulate the superior design.
I'm not familiar with too many Harleys, but I know Shovelheads had a dry clutch, so maybe they used to? From what I understand, any HD bike with an open primary has a dry clutch.
Well done. Quick question ; what was the frame rate on the fast video segments?
They were time lapse videos made with an iPhone 6.
Doing the clutch on my 06 GSA, 220000km. Slave gave out. Having a time getting both halves merging again. Doing it on the floor as my bench is busy... Any tips as to making the front wanna hang out with the rear sub frame?
Clutch replacement on a boxer engine is my main worry with buying a BMW
If you can afford a new one, you won't have to worry about splitting the bike to replace the clutch, as they redesigned it finally...
Hmmmm, I might just go with the S10 now...
Thanks so much for doing this video. I have been told my 2006 GSA with 30,000 miles will need a clutch soon. This definitely persuaded me that this work is way above my pay grade as a backyard mechanic. Any ideas on what a dealer usually charges for a job like this? I am scared to ask, frankly!
Lots. Parts for my job were about $1400. A crack tech can do the job in probably 6 hours, so figure $600-800 for labor on top of parts cost.
Did you have the work done? What'd it run you? Most recent quote I got for a clutch replacement (assuming only the friction disc is replaced) for my 2006, this from an independent BMW shop, was $2500.
@@orangelion03 I don't recommend replacing the friction disc alone. The additional expense of replacing the other parts while you're in there is IMO worth it in the long run. Especially plan on replacing any/all accessible seals - that's the mistake we made that set us back a whole day.
XT1200X Super Tenere is looking ever more appealing - a 30min job instead, and it's a wet clutch so can handle more slipping/abuse to start with. And don't have the same stanchion, rear wheel bearing, shaft drive issues... and the Yamaha apparently has a lower center of gravity.
Yup. Tiger or AT for my next time. My 06 GS is the first and last BMW I will own.
Tenere valve adjustments will be more time consuming. Somebody's Tenere may have been less top heavy than a GS (not a GSA) but mine certainly was not.
Alex you have been misinformed about the lower cg. Getting a Super Ten will make you appreciate your next GS. Besides, the the wet head ( newer GS) has wet clutch that you access from the front. Funny how the BMW bashers usually haven’t owned one. Or they are just cheapskates looking for a bargain. BTW, I have suffered through 10 months of buyers remorse on a S10.
Boa tarde, a embreagem da gs1200 2008 faz um barulho quando não está acionada, é normal? Essas embreagem são barulhenta de fábrica ou é algo de errado?
I don't know what I am doing wrong or right, I have 153.000km and still have not changed the clutch...
Why did the pressure plate and housing cover require replacement? Was this necessary to accommodate the aftermarket clutch disc? Were they deformed or damaged? Is this SOP for a clutch change? That's around $700 in addition of the cost of the disc.
The pressure plate is effectively a spring; IMO it should be replaced along with the other components. You could go without replacing the cover, but my thinking at that point is to just replace all of it because it's such a hassle to get to those components in the first place. The aftermarket friction disc did not require the replacement of the other parts, that's just SOP as far as I'm concerned.
@@BMWMOAorg Thanks for the responses!!
So, question: you replaced the clutch components without changing the "flywheel" as you call it. BMW refers to it as the "Clutch Housing" I see you got a new pushrod - was yours bent? I'm doing this same job on the same year and I'm told by a website that I need to replace my "clutch housing" and pushrod as they were 'updated' in April 2006. My question is WHY?!
The pushrod was not bent, but it was cheap enough that I felt it was a good idea to replace it anyway. I didn't replace the flywheel/clutch housing on the advice of George.
Wish they was explained how they disconnected the brake lines from antilock to the rear master cylinder I haven’t figured out yet getting ready to replace a motor on a 08 GSA
Only the rear brake line needs to be disconnected, and we disconnected it at the caliper for sure. This was so long ago I no longer recall if I had to disconnect any other brake lines.
Sounds to me like you didnt clean off the pressure plate as they usually come oiled.
The clutch disc showed oxidation corrosion that had nearly erased the splines. Was there similar damage
on splines of the transmission input
shaft?
No, the input shaft had a little surface rust but cleaned right up. It did not need replaced.
@@BMWMOAorg That is good to know. My 2012 R1200R probably just has a bad throwout bearing. Thanks
I don't know this , but , is my R1200RT 2007 would have the same procedure/engine ? How many bikes have the same engine ? All R bikes from these years ?
For your 2007 the process once you got down to the clutch itself would be the same. There may be some parts differences, so best to check that with the parts fiche. The big difference would be separating the pieces of the frame and body, but the clutch is the clutch and not much changed from 2005-2009.
5min was not enought to burn the clutch fluid from the pipe? What did you do wrong? :)
The pipe was wrapped. Takes a bit more time due to that.
How much hours i take to replace clutch for a bmw r1200 gs lc 2014 is it the same way is this model
Liquid cooled R 1200s have a wet clutch, so it is a completely different job. Haven't done one yet myself, so I can't tell you how long it might take - sorry!
Youree funny man :D keep it up
B=D
I don’t know if you still respond to posts on this being a couple years old but if you do it would be appreciated. I have helped a friend who got a 2005 with a bad clutch. Never done one but it wasn’t to bad having a manual and I’ve put more clutches than I ca remember in every vehicle imaginable. His clutch had completely disintegrated had to use puller with a lot of effort to get what was left of the clutch off the transmission shaft. Had to file the splines on the shaft to get new clutch on and moving freely. It’s all together and I don’t have first gear. It wont shift to first. I have gears going up the last one down I assume is 1st it’s not there I can turn output shaft as if it’s in neutral. Any suggestions???
Wow, that sounds like an ordeal to say the least! First guess (without being able to see the bike of course) sounds like something's gone on in the transmission that's preventing you from shifting into 1st. If you can shift into every other gear, then the clutch is working properly.
This looks like about $1000 maintenance, 500 for the parts, 500 for the labor? How do you like your BMW? Being a bigger guy how does bike treat your back?
kal, I am 2 m tall and the GS is the best bike I ever had
@@steppenwolf5956 like how bad was it doing that? It looked painfull. Im looking at an 09 with 43k on it and the clutch is a concern.
Parts were $1400ish, but included a new clutch master cylinder (the handlebar unit), which isn't replaced during normal clutch replacement jobs.
This is a great-riding bike, nice upright seating position and doesn't give me any back, hip or knee problems in the course of normal riding.
This is soooooo much easier on the newer boxers.
It certainly is ... and that's why I've now got a 2015 :)
@@BMWMOAorg And why I just ordered a 2022 RS two days ago.
I’ve been looking at buying one of these. Now I’ve seen this I’ll not even bother. BMW wtf where you thinking. Ffs I’ve never seen such a fuck on for a clutch change. 😂 who in their right mind would want one.
funny, jumbo has to ask what the parts are when he is directing the video.... run forest run !!
I'm not a professional mechanic and would rather have the correct information disseminated than make a grievous error and screw up somebody else's job. Love, Jumbo.
hey are all you all in VA?
yes, the shop is near Warrenton
is it possible just to change the Clutch plates alone
Yes, you can replace the friction disc on its own (there's only one in this setup) but because getting in there is such a hassle - and expensive if you're paying somebody to do it - you're better off replacing everything. The cost of the additional parts is less than the cost of having somebody go back in there to replace something else that fails in 1500 miles.
I own a GS !!!!! please dear God if you're listening save my clutch.....
Yes please!
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How much Kilometers have the Bike???
I am from Germany and I am the owner of a 2013 Bmw R 1200 GSA.... Now my bike runs 82.000 km without any troubles... But I am thinking my clutch can be the next part I must replaced...
And my dealer said that this part cost my 1000 Euro.....
But I know other drivers and there clutches works for over 100.000 km.....
Before I buy my BMW I drives 20 years Bikes from Japan.... fzr, fzs 600, fzs 1000, bandit 1200, Suzuki gsx 1250 FA....
But the BMw ist my best bike..... I am tall, 1,90 and my weight ist 94kg....
The only problems are the cost of Inspektions.... The Great Inspektions last year cost 600 Euro.... And no thing was damaged....
And the prices for all parts of the BMW are unbelievable ....... Kardan: 1000 Euro.... ABS Modul: 500 Euro...
Elektronic Suspensions : 2500 Euro.... Clutch: 1000 Euro + Labor....
And i wish all BMW Drivers in Great America much luck that the BMWS are dont get damaged...
Greetings from Germany
about 117,500 km
@@BMWMOAorg Okay, thats okay..... Thank you very much for yout fast answer... Greetings from Germany...
Hi i need clucth bmw r1200 gs 2006 😩
lol fuck dat thinking of getting a bwm for my next bike, but if i have to do that just to change the clutch then nope nope and nope.
Most BMWs made since 2013 have wet clutches, so this process really only applies to R bikes made before that, K bikes before the K 1600s, (at least - maybe farther back) and the R nineT series. Plus the new R 18. Anyway, lots & lots of BMWs with wet clutches out there. Benefit of the dry clutch is they almost always last a long, long time.
I still kind of want an R1200gs, but the more I learn about these bikes, the less I respect this "German Construction". From final drives that can shatter and lock up the rear wheel, to this kind of bull, for a clutch it just doesn't make any sense. Hell any bike will go 200,000 miles if you put the effort into rebuilding it.
Exactly! :) You nailed it. I've never had a bike go 100k without needing service, and I never had a non-BMW where the clutch lasted almost 80k. (That could be more about my riding technique than anything else, though.)
I have an 07 1200gs with 102,000 miles and my clutch is still holding strong …
@@timlubbers2884 I would buy a BMW no problem, just knowing that they can be hit or miss with their QC and what looks like a really good deal on a used one may come with a couple grand price tag in part replacements. I've been seeing many medium mileage R1200's being listed for very reasonable prices, but add a potential 2000 in parts, not so much.
all this nonsense now obviated with the R1300
and the 1250 as well, which has a clutch similar to the 1300