Your description of Hissy and crew reminds me of my flights with the original Olympic Airways which, back then, was a global carrier known for its rudeness and dismissiveness. It was always entertaining flying with Olympic where you never knew what kind of altercations and entertaining interactions you would witness between crew and passengers. I actually miss Olympic greatly.
Yes there are only a handful of these large old school legacy carriers left... AF KL BA IB... OA used to fly to Singapore and Sydney. As they were dying, their SYD flights went via BKK. Yes, their union protected work patterns saw them have layovers of up to 3 days at each stop on their OZ flights. No wonder they went bust.
As usual Ryan a interesting trip review . I will be following this journey on your channel. There's nothing worse after flying long-haul with minimal sleep to arrive in a place that is poorly signed, undertrained staff and generally a confusing environment. I feel your frustration mate. I hope the next leg of journey is less stressful.
Now that I've been to CDG again, it's a good reminder to note where things are. Last time I was there, I think the entire T2 complex wasn't even built yet.
Wow! Ryan, of the many aviation vlogers I’ve watched, you’re definitely my number one favourite. Clever, informative and very entertaining while making seriously good observations and reviews. My guess at an Air France economy review was exactly what you gave us. Will we ever live down the ubiquitous “Hissy”, ooh, la,la! And, if Air France have viewed this, I doubt if anything would ever change, they have cultural traditions to uphold😉😂 Can’t wait for the next instalment 👍
Hahahaha glad I could entertain and thanks for popping by. Look, I've been to France several times but this was my first time doing it on AF. Funny enough I wasn't surprised with the kind of service I received.
I actually remember being treated in a similar manner at Frankfurt Airport. It was during the migrant crisis in 2015, but everyone flying in from outside the EU was subjected to multiple security screenings and multiple checks of boarding passes. Frankfurt also didn’t allow for onwards connections and I had to go through customs and immigration before flying to Prague.
Yikes, that sounds horrible! I suppose if you were flying from OUTSIDE EU to FRA onwards to PRG, you'd have to go thru immigration at the first EU airport too, no?
@@ryansofly that’s true. Frankfurt Airport was a good airport to transit, but I needed to get the Schengen visa stamp to fly onto Prague. I do remember the whole experience was a very German obey the rules approach.
Thanks for the comical comments. I also had a similar experience. Went to the gally because I did not wish to disturb other passengers by calling for service. I was parched & just needed some water. There was a male steward reading so I waited for a while to be noticed . When he refused to look up, cleared NY throat politely & asked if I could have so.e water. He looked at my with that kind of arrogance ( I was invading his privacy/ disturbing him). He pointed to the drinks corner & went back to his book ! In Paris , it was very inconvenient for me to catch my connecting flight to Amsterdam. After my second BAD EXPERIENCE . Yes , we hardly saw the cabin crew. If they hate their job , they should not be serving the public! Never again !
Even Qantas cabin crew will ask you whether you need anything or is everything alright if you approach them in the galley. I don't know what is wrong with Air France. It seems like we are the cabin crew serving them instead
Your hissing about Hissey made me laugh out loud.. so funny Ryan.. Good to see that French hospitality was there for all to see… Air France is not one of the airlines that interests me but enjoyed your video.. Looking forward to your next videos, safe travels my friend…
Apart from sitting in economy class for 13+ hours (shudder) and only minimum sleep time, I am amazed, Ryan, that you could still summons up a smile after the confusion and frustration of the French transit. Bravo. I hope the next sector with Air Malta is an improvement of what you have endured so far.
The things we do to create content. The more convoluted the better. Hahahaha... Nah I was all prepared for drama because you know, it's CDG. And they did not disappoint.
Perhaps you should try Scoot’s sin to ber via Athens flight. I am 100% sure that would be worse than any QF or AF flight. Scoot’s b787 airplane look more like a flying public bus with the hilarious livery
It's not so much that they will refuse to speak English, rather that they will refuse to use it if it is assumed that they must. If you start speaking in French, but struggle whilst clearly making the effort, they will revert to English..
Oh Ryan, both my husband & I are avid followers of your channel - your comments & observations are refreshingly honest as to YOUR experience not the marketing hype of other airline reviewers towing the freebie line. We share a similar focus, great food, a love of planes (and bearded men) & not scared of calling a spade a spade with lashings of pink humour. We were rolling on the floor after viewing Hissy verses Antionette, and your disappointment that all things French were missing from your AF flight other than Parisian attitude. Keep up the good work & never hold back on the camp black humour darling 🙂
If you were confused at CDG , how would a first timer or perhaps an older person cope … the mind boggles . Ah well , I hope the Air Malta flight was without dramas . I was tempted to say Au Revoir , but I’ll just say “ see ya later “ …
#1 In any case, when arriving in Paris as final destination, or conecting to another Schengen area destination, you must go through immigration. Schengen area is 27 european countries who agreed years ago to let people move freely within the Schengen area (name of the agreement comes from the city where it was first signed, in The Netherlands if I remember). Once inside schengen area, no more immigration control at airports, ports, road frontiers... So coming from singapore, unless you are NOT connecting to a Schengen country (e.g.connecting in Paris with final destination New york), you need to pass imigration to get into Schengen area. And Malta is part of Schengen, so no surprise here. That's avgeek homework for you before you fly. #2 Then issue with the boarding pass. Air France and Air Malta are code sharing. But Air Malta is not part of Skyteam. So you can book all with Air France, but that doesn't mean Air France is allowed to issue boarding pass for Air Malta. This would have been automatic if Air Malta was part of Skyteam. That's another avgeek homework for you berfore you fly. #3 Even French people complaign about CDG mess. It is not typically France, we all hate CDG. Specically when you're connection is Skyteam/non Skyteam. You have may notice all this boards saying "Paris loves you" at the airpport. Many French say "Paris loves you, but CDG hates you". Since you speak French, you should read about all French avgeeks reviews. CDG knows it's home work. #4 The hissie. In France , we call them "Monique". Means grunchy FA (I know it's sexist, since Monique is a female firstname, but it comes from times when FA where mostly females). I know AF is fighting agains that behevior by training, training, training.... I am sorry you witnessed and experienced this, even more on a singapore to paris where excellence should start when competing with Singapore Airlines. And that's home work for AF. ;-)
@@fredfromfrance I know that now AFTER I went through the wringer at CDG. In fact, I make a mention of this in the following episode, which will air on the following Saturday. I understand totally if the agents in MEL and SIN didn't know about Schengen... But the agents at CDG? I mean, they LIVE IN Europe! And they were clueless. So that, I thought... Was unforgivable. I soaked in every bit of your response and thanks for the detailed insight into everything. Truly appreciated!
@@ryansofly Most of European people (not only French) don't know where Malta is, don't know Malta is an iland, don't know what Malta native language is, don't know Malta is part of Schengen... So who were the agents you talked to ? If it was AF agents, I agreee, unforgivable . If it was CDG agents, I must say no surprise unfortunately. Europe is not one big country like Australia, or as small as Singapore (althought I understood Singapore is not a country, but a "City state", ie not a country, but about he same, if I got it right at school). Europe is a very very lot of countries, large or small, with many many different languages. But you know that.
@@fredfromfrance yes I shouldn't assume everyone who lives in Europe knows everything about Europe. Still, it was a great learning experience at CDG. No doubt I'll be better prepared next time.
Haha, love your humor. Great story telling of your French Flight Attendants while in cattle class 😂. But OMG, as someone who doesn’t speak a lick of French, I’d be F’d… but good stories to tell at the pub.
Hahahaha... Yeah that's why I speak french when I can so they have no excuse to f*** with me. Still, the observations made for some great material to work with. 😏
Merci Stefan! I can read french, I can write french... But I've lost my fluency after not having actively spoken it for over 20 years. I'm using this video as an opportunity to brush it all up again! 😁
20 years!! Incroyable!! I started re-learning elementary French. Anyway, I’ve been waiting for an Air France trip review for the SIN-CDG route and was excited to see that u were going to produce one! (Back before it was released) Ur report is awesome! Fair. honest, credible, balanced and well-scripted! Keep sharing more of ur adventures! Bon voyage!
Hey Ryan! Yeah, I’ve never been to France and there are only two non-stop options from Singapore, SQ or AF… Probably opt for the morning AF flight operated by the 787-9
I had similar experiences before. You must clear EU immigration at the first EU country arrived, because flying between EU member countries is like flying interstate ("domestic"), there is no international (non EU) immigration clearance/passport control when flying from France to Malta. You do need passport to travel as travel ID, but France is where u r admitted into the EU.
You will get the opposite treatment on an Asian carrier. I went to the galley to get a snack and a drink on a long haul SIA flight and the cabin crew gave me a cup of juice. I even requested for cup noodles and cabin crew offered to bring that to my seat. I think Air France is worse than QF. At least the cabin crew on QF are professional and helpful
I was so looking forward to this trip report and you certainly didn't disappoint. 🤣 A thought just came into my mind though - I was wondering if travelling between France and Malta, being two countries in the Schengen area, was the reason why your Air Malta boarding pass would not issue as your travels originated from outside the Schengen area? AF257 would have been treated as an external flight as it originated in Singapore, but the Air Malta flight, being between two countries in the Schengen area, would presumably be treated as an "internal" flight?
Your review reminded me of my trip on AF years ago , the crew was typically French style during the in between service they would sit on high stool on the balky and read French magazines what was missing is a glass of wine in their hands
Last year I was at terminal 1 in CDG where all passengers with non EU passports had to wait in a 2 hour long line at immigration where they had only 2 immigration officers manually processing everyone’s passports, in a terminal with multiple a380 and long haul international flights departing at the same time, such a joke I never want to go back there.
It's been a while since I last flew AF long haul, but brought back some memories. Especially when I worked in the AF head office language school as an English teacher back in the late 90s- some crew were lovely, others were there just to box tick... (Azay Le Rideau is a village in the Loire with an impressive chateau - though it seems most villages in that region have them! We stayed in a holiday cottage in Azay many years ago!)
I avoid CDG with a passion, transfers there are always abysmal, I have missed connections ,even when allowing a longer than normally required time ,due to their efficiency (it does not exist)
Damn fine report Ryan. I've been watching your reports develop and your style is more than appealing. 'Loved your observations re the contrasting hosties. I've experienced the French style a few times and doubt I could have bitten my toungue with 14 hours of time to plan a cutting take down on exit. As you say, the French style and approach varies dramitically from great people to "French".
Ryan... very funny this one! Not sure I would have been as impressed with the service attitude on board as you. as for that experience transferring to Air Malta, you were super lucky it wasn't a tight turn around. its super frustrating when you buy the ticket with the one airline but they can't even tell you the procedure for transiting at their own airport. I've had similar experiences but not at CDG which is not my favourite airport had a couple of experiences there too.
Yes Air France staff in their homebase not having a clue is unforgivable. But hey, that's why they're CDG! Everyone's favourite airport! Surprisingly, very little passengers actually transit through that airport.
One of the most amusing trip reports on TH-cam. This music lightened up the mood. As for my CDG experience: the closest I could think of is my SAS flight last July (T1). I was travelling on SAS Plus so it should have included lounge access. The Star Alliance lounge (then) should have been the natural choice. Yet I encountered two related problems: 1. Each bloc of gates at T1 had their security checkpoint so to approach the bloc of gates that had the lounge, you would need to clear security again; 2. The lounge was too far away that I wasn't confident I would make it back in time after enjoying it. You would think that T1 was just this round structure yet it has several satellite concourses, each with their own security checkpoint. And probably I would have been turned away as my flight wasn't departing from there. I think the reason for the rather complicated transfer is simple: you were going to fly on another airline. Perhaps checking in via Air Malta's website would have worked. And how would you go back to sleep after having those soft drinks?
Thanks for watching. CDG like I said, it's beautiful, but overly complicated. It's so complicated even the staff get confused sometimes. From the responses to this video, even Parisians themselves dislike that airport with a passion. 😂
@@ryansofly I think the reason why they didn't issue the boarding card appear simple: Air France isn't the carrier that would operate the Air Malta flight. Unless they were part of an alliance during the time you travelled, the ability to do so was going to depend on the sort of interline agreement they had. Also, had Air Malta shared the same terminal as the one you arrived with on Air France, this would have been a different story. CDG is no Changi or Schiphol where (almost) everything is under one roof.
@@ryansofly on your point of the French way overly complicating stuff, it applies to how they call numbers from 70 to 99. They are trying to outcompete the danes for which numbering conventions are the least boring and least predictable.
Sadly I have had to transit through CDG quite a few times and it is always a hassle. Poor or no signage to assist you to find your way and little or no help from any staff. I now avoid France completely if I have to transit through Europe, even if I have to pay a little more for this.
Had you flown AF La Premiere instead of Economy Class from SIN-CDG, you would have been met by an agent at the door of the aircraft who would drive you in a car to the La Premiere lounge. Since you were connecting to Air Malta they would have probably helped you get your boarding pass in Terminal 2D.
Indeed.... La Premier looked sensational when I walked past it. Connecting traffic in CDG is surprisingly very low, so that might explain the lack of infrastructure to support this traffic.
CDG is a horrible airport; I'll never use it again. And why does nobody notice, or remember, that Air France has had more fatal accidents than any other "flag" carrier? I wouldn't fly them if they gave me 1st Class for life. Other than that, good review! 🙂
Ok I only use Business class on my long haul, however my experience on A.F. has so far been nothing but excellent all round. Service, food, comfort all great. I’ll be flying with them again in a few months on my regular long haul and hope it will be again a good experience. Also I should add that when contacting them regarding a change of flight the person I spoke to was very helpful. Maybe I’ve just been lucky, I’ll soon find out.
In all fairness, our dealings with the call center were excellent. When air France emailed us about the flight change, it was a day early with Etihad. That's why we had to speak to the call center so we could get us departing on the same day, and that's when they told us QF cancelled QF 35. However, I saw that flight up in the FIDs at MEL. Now several respondents have chimed in to say that flight actually departed. So who knows why QF bumped us off?
Thanks for a great video, Ryan. Probably the best flight report you have made so far. Yes it's rare for AF to disappoint with its catering even in Y class. Would have been better if you had stopped over in Paris rather than brave that CDG transfer experience. As for the routing I am surprised the flight went over Saudi and Egypt (between the Gulf and Europe) as the normal and quicker routing would be over Iraq or Iran. Maybe it was down to air congestion in that area. Looking forward to your next vlogs.
@@ryansofly Thanks Ryan. Some BA flights from London to the Gulf have also taken a similar routing. I did ask one BA pilot via Twitter about this routing and he replied, "Everything is factored into it. Some days it might be a cheaper way to go another way for overflight fees etc. [It could be] issues with airways availability en route (e.g. Iran) etc." Now with the possibility of trouble in the Middle East I can envisage more changes being made to flight routings in that part of the world.
I find KLM just as bad, going all the way back to when I was a child. I still remember the old KLM witch working my flight when I was around 10. I dared ask for a pair of kiddie wings. She snapped back condescendingly, “They are for small children.” (I was 10). I stood my ground and got my wings, but her nastiness stuck with me. In the US, I find UA flight attendants to be somewhat akin to prison matrons. In Spain, when smoking was permitted on flights, I always thought of Iberia flight attendants as chain-smoking witches who took full advantage of their perceived prestige.
Funny you should mention KL. I boarded a business class flight and after I sat down, a flight attendant came to me and demanded to see my boarding pass very rudely. Only after that she was convinced I was in the right seat. That was my one and only bad experience with KL.
@@ryansofly Yes, that sounds very familiar for KLM. They have a haughty iciness that oozes condescension and disrespect. They try to pass it off as efficiency.
Thanks for the great flight review .Despite the less then perfect customer service the meals offered seem far superior to the paltry offerings of QANTAS Economy.
i know what you mean Ryan by the french way of doing things. i was unfortunate enough to have my honeymoon in france, worst 3 days of my life. .much love and have a wonderful day 🤗🙏💕😁
CDG has been expanded over the years. Originally one terminal it's expanded to have many terminals. But CDG does have its advantages ... no strict curfew (as at LHR and FRA for example) and its very own rail station with TGVs running to many domestic destinations.
I flew with AF from Mauritius to Paris on a 777, the catering was great, but the seats were the most uncomfortable i have ever sat in. I got no sleep at all... And thr transit in CDG was horrific. I went to the bathroom at the gate of my connecting flight to LHR, and someone had done a 💩 all over the floor and even managed to get it into a sink .. it was horrible, smelly, and gross. I spoke to the gate agent in English about the situation , and she just said I dont speak English and went back to her phone..... CDG?? Never again ...
Suppose it depends on you. I like the seats at the rear because there are usually empty seats if the flights aren't full, people prefer to be seated up front.
Nice video and sorry for the flight attendant. I'm french and I only flew once with them but most of my journey was with KLM so... Don't have a real personnal experience but i know lot of people complaining of Air France not only for their behavors but also for the price for flying with them. I know only few destinations vers Air France is the most chepeast airline... Personnaly I used to like to travel with Qatar airways but they broke my trust on my last journey and didn't refund my ticket as they say they will... So probably my next journey will be with Emirates or Turkish Airlines. Anyway, nice review ;)
Thanks for popping by, mate. Funny enough, I expected this from AF. And the airline delivered it in spades, all that great content for story telling. 🤣
I flew to Paris when Qantas was still.doing Singapore to Paris and back. I wont venture AF. old equipment. Stiff service staff. Qantas, warm , friendly , chirpy and helpful and snacks galore throughout the flight, Australian wines and Australian chesse and Mrs. Mac's beef pies . Thank u very much but no thanks AF . They squueze ten seats in a row in a B777 when Singapore Air squeezes only nine a breast. QANTAS B747 to Paris from Singapore had those old thicker cushioned economy.seats . Super comfortable. Newer economy.seats have non supportive thinner cushions to save on weight. Fond memories of Qantas to Frankfurt , London, Paris too.
This must've been pre-2008. Those were the days when QF flew to LHR CDG and FRA from SIN. I wouldn't exactly call it good old days because the flight attendants were highly paid and very rude. They were so well protected by their unions so they felt empowered to be nasty to passengers. QF air fares as a consequence were very cheap from SIN because we did not really want to fly them.
Great video report! I was there in 2011 to attend the Paris Air Show and try out LAN AIrlines (before they merged with TAM) and the airport is indeed confusing, probably the worst airport in my list so far.
I've taken hundreds of flights with Air France and I have to say the service is-- with very few exceptions-- extremely professional. Honestly I think you had bad luck. I have never, ever seen flight attendants wear t-shirts..And I find it very hard to believe that an international flight attendant on Air France refused to speak English, I have never once seen this in 30 years, ESPECIALLY on international flights. As for Hissy, you should really (if you haven't already done so) complain because that is unacceptable. But you included a lot of stereotypes you included that were not necessary. I know you were trying to be humorous but not super cool. As for the tramsfer, I have had the same experiences changing airlines... Remember that the people you are talking to at CDG are employees of Aéroports de Paris, not Air France. I would also complain to AF about the transfer. If they have an agreeement with Air Malta they should have been able to give you a boarding pass. That is likely because of a lack of connection between AF and KM's systems. You may get some extra miles from them :-) Safe travels!
Thanks for your incredibly detailed and civil response! The t shirt I'm referring to can be seen during the first meal service. That's what several FAs wore around the economy class cabin. As they didn't make themselves available (aka hidden), I didn't even know they were FAs when one finally appeared to prepare for pushback. The AF/KM issue apparently has been well known from the messages I received after this video went out. As this is my first transit in CDG (other times, I've just walked out ), I'll be better prepared in the future if AF is ever involved. As for Hissy, well... Let's just leave it at that. My experiences in France would have that kind of behaviour as normal, so writing in to AF would be time I can never get back. I did enjoy the observations though. She was very well balanced with Antoinette who provided excellent service.
@@ryansofly Yes, there are always some truths in stereotypes-- and many misunderstandings. First, Paris is not France. France is not Paris. And all people are not the same in any country. Not even within the same country. As a longterm French resident-- from a European perspective-- I really believe that yes, the French are reserved and either rigid (by Latin cultures) or too messy (Germanic/Scandinavian) but they are human. I live in Paris and yes sometimes I get disagreeable people. Other times I get rushed people. But most of the time the people I interact with want to be happy, they want connection, they aren't used to a smile but if you do sincerely, they will give you sincere smile in return. They don't care about your ability to speak French. What visitors often don't understand is that the disconnect comes from social codes and communication styles. To keep it simple... just say Bonjour/Bonsoir Monsieur/Madame and your experience will be entirely different. That said, we agree on one thing- Hissy definitely needs some deep electroshock therapy!
You seem to complain a lot or b ready to complain a lot. The Tshirt he was referring to is the AF uniforms that they have been wearing nearly for 20 years. When it comes to fashion France is a reference. Thus you fly with AF isn’t it normal for the crew to speak French first ?? At least they give you an overview of where you are flying to, you are immersed in the French culture, which is not to bad. It’s not written on the face who speak or don’t speack French.
@@blakelockridge6145 Chill mate, I also said a lot of good stuff about the airline. If you want a 100% positive red carpet good only report, go to Sam Chui?!
Hahaha... What a way to put it. I was more amused by the experience than I was annoyed. But you're right, I'm not in a hurry to return to AF after this.
Flown it from Singapore to Europe as well and prefer it to KLM, Lufthansa, British Airways and Swiss by quite a bit. Singapore Airlines is arguably better but not worth the price difference in my mind
What a pain in the ass airline and airport. Sassy customer service staff really get my goat- they’re in customer service jobs and you’re keeping them employed. I wouldn’t have bit my tongue at Baguette Karen- when she passive aggressively commented to her colleague that you speak some French and laughed at you, I’d have said ‘yeah, do you have a problem with it?’ and walked off. 😂 At least the other one was nice and unpretentious. That intro with your sibling was hilarious you look nothing similar at all. And that elderly guy behind you on the plane was a bit uncomfortable with being on camera…. safe to say he will likely not become a subscriber. 😂 Night time over Cairo looked beautiful. ♥️
I have never flown Korean air. My last attempt to fly them out of Busan failed terribly... 🤣 Got denied boarding. th-cam.com/video/8gbraL_nVzw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lZrj1NJ9MpoLVFz5
Dude the T shirt you are referring to is part of their uniform. Air India crew wear Sari, AF crew wear Christian Lacroix, with a all different pieces of uniform. Maybe it was sarcasm and supposed to b funny, didn’t catch it in your voice ..
the AIRFRANCE its not what it used to be still better than KLM which is shit I always fly Business class and its good but remember even Singapore airlines economy its not what it used to be and can you tell me the date of your flight also regarding of boarding pass its really strange was your Malta flight ticket on the airfrance roundtrip ticket or it was separate AF ticket? if it is separate in some cases they cant give you boarding pass but if its on the same itenary they can give you thats strange and always show galley snacks lol and put the flight date
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I love your sassy content, but as cabin crew myself, I'm terrified you'll be on my flight one day and what you might say 😂
Hahahahaha... Look, I'm a story teller. I observe, then I regurgitate. If you're nice to me, that would be regurgitated accordingly too! 😘
Your description of Hissy and crew reminds me of my flights with the original Olympic Airways which, back then, was a global carrier known for its rudeness and dismissiveness. It was always entertaining flying with Olympic where you never knew what kind of altercations and entertaining interactions you would witness between crew and passengers. I actually miss Olympic greatly.
Yes there are only a handful of these large old school legacy carriers left... AF KL BA IB... OA used to fly to Singapore and Sydney. As they were dying, their SYD flights went via BKK. Yes, their union protected work patterns saw them have layovers of up to 3 days at each stop on their OZ flights. No wonder they went bust.
As usual Ryan a interesting trip review . I will be following this journey on your channel. There's nothing worse after flying long-haul with minimal sleep to arrive in a place that is poorly signed, undertrained staff and generally a confusing environment. I feel your frustration mate. I hope the next leg of journey is less stressful.
Now that I've been to CDG again, it's a good reminder to note where things are. Last time I was there, I think the entire T2 complex wasn't even built yet.
Wow! Ryan, of the many aviation vlogers I’ve watched, you’re definitely my number one favourite. Clever, informative and very entertaining while making seriously good observations and reviews. My guess at an Air France economy review was exactly what you gave us. Will we ever live down the ubiquitous “Hissy”, ooh, la,la!
And, if Air France have viewed this, I doubt if anything would ever change, they have cultural traditions to uphold😉😂
Can’t wait for the next instalment 👍
Hahahaha glad I could entertain and thanks for popping by. Look, I've been to France several times but this was my first time doing it on AF. Funny enough I wasn't surprised with the kind of service I received.
I actually remember being treated in a similar manner at Frankfurt Airport. It was during the migrant crisis in 2015, but everyone flying in from outside the EU was subjected to multiple security screenings and multiple checks of boarding passes. Frankfurt also didn’t allow for onwards connections and I had to go through customs and immigration before flying to Prague.
Yikes, that sounds horrible! I suppose if you were flying from OUTSIDE EU to FRA onwards to PRG, you'd have to go thru immigration at the first EU airport too, no?
@@ryansofly that’s true. Frankfurt Airport was a good airport to transit, but I needed to get the Schengen visa stamp to fly onto Prague. I do remember the whole experience was a very German obey the rules approach.
the way you HISSED😂😂😂
Hahahahaha.... She really reminded me of a very temperamental cat.
Thanks for the comical comments. I also had a similar experience. Went to the gally because I did not wish to disturb other passengers by calling for service. I was parched & just needed some water. There was a male steward reading so I waited for a while to be noticed . When he refused to look up, cleared NY throat politely & asked if I could have so.e water. He looked at my with that kind of arrogance ( I was invading his privacy/ disturbing him). He pointed to the drinks corner & went back to his book ! In Paris , it was very inconvenient for me to catch my connecting flight to Amsterdam. After my second BAD EXPERIENCE . Yes , we hardly saw the cabin crew. If they hate their job , they should not be serving the public! Never again !
Even Qantas cabin crew will ask you whether you need anything or is everything alright if you approach them in the galley. I don't know what is wrong with Air France. It seems like we are the cabin crew serving them instead
Yikes ... Yes the attitude can be very confronting. You almost feel afraid they'll bite your head off.
Your hissing about Hissey made me laugh out loud.. so funny Ryan.. Good to see that French hospitality was there for all to see… Air France is not one of the airlines that interests me but enjoyed your video.. Looking forward to your next videos, safe travels my friend…
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for popping by!
Apart from sitting in economy class for 13+ hours (shudder) and only minimum sleep time, I am amazed, Ryan, that you could still summons up a smile after the confusion and frustration of the French transit. Bravo. I hope the next sector with Air Malta is an improvement of what you have endured so far.
The things we do to create content. The more convoluted the better. Hahahaha... Nah I was all prepared for drama because you know, it's CDG. And they did not disappoint.
Perhaps you should try Scoot’s sin to ber via Athens flight. I am 100% sure that would be worse than any QF or AF flight. Scoot’s b787 airplane look more like a flying public bus with the hilarious livery
@@maradona1012 I have thought about doing that Scoot flight to Athens. Many cheap business class flights to be had departing ATH!
Great review Ryan, who knew getting boarding passes would be so difficult, looking forward to the Malta episode.
Yep, it was an unnecessary wild goose chase. See you in the next episode! Cheers!
Many French know and understand English, yet they will not speak or communicate in English. Very common in France.
Tell me about it! There is no middle ground with them. They are either for you or against you.
I love the French and their spirit.
@@martinloney6322 you mean you love their champagne. 🤣
@@ryansofly That too of course!
It's not so much that they will refuse to speak English, rather that they will refuse to use it if it is assumed that they must. If you start speaking in French, but struggle whilst clearly making the effort, they will revert to English..
Oh Ryan, both my husband & I are avid followers of your channel - your comments & observations are refreshingly honest as to YOUR experience not the marketing hype of other airline reviewers towing the freebie line. We share a similar focus, great food, a love of planes (and bearded men) & not scared of calling a spade a spade with lashings of pink humour. We were rolling on the floor after viewing Hissy verses Antionette, and your disappointment that all things French were missing from your AF flight other than Parisian attitude. Keep up the good work & never hold back on the camp black humour darling 🙂
Hahahaha glad I could entertain and of course, thanks for BOTH of your support. Lol @ love for bearded men.... That's why I married a bear! 🤣
Oh my goodness Ryan this was the best video it was so hilarious congratulations you had me it fits of laughter
Hahahaha glad you enjoyed. Thanks for your support as always 🙏🙏
@@ryansofly my pleasure 😇
If you were confused at CDG , how would a first timer or perhaps an older person cope … the mind boggles . Ah well , I hope the Air Malta flight was without dramas . I was tempted to say Au Revoir , but I’ll just say “ see ya later “ …
I don't envy someone who doesn't speak English or French trying to navigate a transit.
One way for older people not to get lost in this labyrinth is to ask for wheelchair. Many do that even when they can walk.
#1 In any case, when arriving in Paris as final destination, or conecting to another Schengen area destination, you must go through immigration. Schengen area is 27 european countries who agreed years ago to let people move freely within the Schengen area (name of the agreement comes from the city where it was first signed, in The Netherlands if I remember). Once inside schengen area, no more immigration control at airports, ports, road frontiers... So coming from singapore, unless you are NOT connecting to a Schengen country (e.g.connecting in Paris with final destination New york), you need to pass imigration to get into Schengen area. And Malta is part of Schengen, so no surprise here. That's avgeek homework for you before you fly.
#2 Then issue with the boarding pass. Air France and Air Malta are code sharing. But Air Malta is not part of Skyteam. So you can book all with Air France, but that doesn't mean Air France is allowed to issue boarding pass for Air Malta. This would have been automatic if Air Malta was part of Skyteam. That's another avgeek homework for you berfore you fly.
#3 Even French people complaign about CDG mess. It is not typically France, we all hate CDG. Specically when you're connection is Skyteam/non Skyteam. You have may notice all this boards saying "Paris loves you" at the airpport. Many French say "Paris loves you, but CDG hates you". Since you speak French, you should read about all French avgeeks reviews. CDG knows it's home work.
#4 The hissie. In France , we call them "Monique". Means grunchy FA (I know it's sexist, since Monique is a female firstname, but it comes from times when FA where mostly females). I know AF is fighting agains that behevior by training, training, training.... I am sorry you witnessed and experienced this, even more on a singapore to paris where excellence should start when competing with Singapore Airlines. And that's home work for AF. ;-)
Schengen=Luxembourg in face Germany and france
@@jackscharlez5555 Sorry for my confusion related to the place. Mistaken with Maastricht agreements.
@@fredfromfrance I know that now AFTER I went through the wringer at CDG. In fact, I make a mention of this in the following episode, which will air on the following Saturday. I understand totally if the agents in MEL and SIN didn't know about Schengen... But the agents at CDG? I mean, they LIVE IN Europe! And they were clueless. So that, I thought... Was unforgivable.
I soaked in every bit of your response and thanks for the detailed insight into everything. Truly appreciated!
@@ryansofly Most of European people (not only French) don't know where Malta is, don't know Malta is an iland, don't know what Malta native language is, don't know Malta is part of Schengen... So who were the agents you talked to ? If it was AF agents, I agreee, unforgivable . If it was CDG agents, I must say no surprise unfortunately. Europe is not one big country like Australia, or as small as Singapore (althought I understood Singapore is not a country, but a "City state", ie not a country, but about he same, if I got it right at school). Europe is a very very lot of countries, large or small, with many many different languages. But you know that.
@@fredfromfrance yes I shouldn't assume everyone who lives in Europe knows everything about Europe. Still, it was a great learning experience at CDG. No doubt I'll be better prepared next time.
Haha, love your humor. Great story telling of your French Flight Attendants while in cattle class 😂. But OMG, as someone who doesn’t speak a lick of French, I’d be F’d… but good stories to tell at the pub.
Hahahaha... Yeah that's why I speak french when I can so they have no excuse to f*** with me. Still, the observations made for some great material to work with. 😏
votre français et vos rapports sont très bons! c'est génial Ryan!
Merci Stefan! I can read french, I can write french... But I've lost my fluency after not having actively spoken it for over 20 years. I'm using this video as an opportunity to brush it all up again! 😁
20 years!! Incroyable!! I started re-learning elementary French. Anyway, I’ve been waiting for an Air France trip review for the SIN-CDG route and was excited to see that u were going to produce one! (Back before it was released) Ur report is awesome! Fair. honest, credible, balanced and well-scripted! Keep sharing more of ur adventures! Bon voyage!
@@stefanloe5277 oh snap! Are you planning to fly in the same sector as well?
Hey Ryan! Yeah, I’ve never been to France and there are only two non-stop options from Singapore, SQ or AF… Probably opt for the morning AF flight operated by the 787-9
Love Love Love your reviews, they're so refreshingly honest.
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching....! Cheers.
I had similar experiences before. You must clear EU immigration at the first EU country arrived, because flying between EU member countries is like flying interstate ("domestic"), there is no international (non EU) immigration clearance/passport control when flying from France to Malta. You do need passport to travel as travel ID, but France is where u r admitted into the EU.
Yes this Schengen arrangement will be addressed in the next episode.
You will get the opposite treatment on an Asian carrier. I went to the galley to get a snack and a drink on a long haul SIA flight and the cabin crew gave me a cup of juice. I even requested for cup noodles and cabin crew offered to bring that to my seat. I think Air France is worse than QF. At least the cabin crew on QF are professional and helpful
Well, it's just the french way. As long as you're mentally prepared, you'll be fine. Hahaha...
I was so looking forward to this trip report and you certainly didn't disappoint. 🤣
A thought just came into my mind though - I was wondering if travelling between France and Malta, being two countries in the Schengen area, was the reason why your Air Malta boarding pass would not issue as your travels originated from outside the Schengen area? AF257 would have been treated as an external flight as it originated in Singapore, but the Air Malta flight, being between two countries in the Schengen area, would presumably be treated as an "internal" flight?
Yes, this Schengen transit will be addressed in the next episode.
Nice review!
Thank you for your support, as always. 🙏🙏🙏
Your review reminded me of my trip on AF years ago , the crew was typically French style during the in between service they would sit on high stool on the balky and read French magazines what was missing is a glass of wine in their hands
Hahaha yes, that sounds like them to the tee.
Last year I was at terminal 1 in CDG where all passengers with non EU passports had to wait in a 2 hour long line at immigration where they had only 2 immigration officers manually processing everyone’s passports, in a terminal with multiple a380 and long haul international flights departing at the same time, such a joke I never want to go back there.
Efficiency isn't the strong point of CDG
Indeed@@ryansofly
totally correct. I live in Paris and the airport management is horrible.
It's been a while since I last flew AF long haul, but brought back some memories. Especially when I worked in the AF head office language school as an English teacher back in the late 90s- some crew were lovely, others were there just to box tick... (Azay Le Rideau is a village in the Loire with an impressive chateau - though it seems most villages in that region have them! We stayed in a holiday cottage in Azay many years ago!)
That's the thing isn't it... There's no middle ground. It's either they give you all or they don't give two hoots. 🤣
Great video. Dod you check in a bag. Were they strict with the weight
We had one check in bag which was put all the way through from MEL to MLA.
Had to laugh out loud several times. Your reporting is VERY entertaining. Question: what is that tattoo on your left upper arm? Looks like an ECG, lol
Sharp eyes.... The "ECG" is connected to a silhouette of an aircraft flying up my shoulder. 😏
@@ryansofly Does that mean your heart rate goes up with excitement whenever you are on a plane? Mine does :D
@@sabinelandau2330 lol that goes without saying! Although my friend (who is a doctor) said if my ECG reads like that, it means I'll be dead soon. 🤣
@@ryansofly No way. You will live a very long life and do many more super trooper videos. Can't wait for the next one 😃
I avoid CDG with a passion, transfers there are always abysmal, I have missed connections ,even when allowing a longer than normally required time ,due to their efficiency (it does not exist)
From the responses so far to this video, I think even the French themselves hate CDG. 🤣
Damn fine report Ryan. I've been watching your reports develop and your style is more than appealing. 'Loved your observations re the contrasting hosties. I've experienced the French style a few times and doubt I could have bitten my toungue with 14 hours of time to plan a cutting take down on exit. As you say, the French style and approach varies dramitically from great people to "French".
Hahaha thank you for your support. Trust me, I was uhming and ahhing the whole flight how was I going to tell this story without offending anyone. 🤣🤣
Ryan... very funny this one! Not sure I would have been as impressed with the service attitude on board as you. as for that experience transferring to Air Malta, you were super lucky it wasn't a tight turn around. its super frustrating when you buy the ticket with the one airline but they can't even tell you the procedure for transiting at their own airport. I've had similar experiences but not at CDG which is not my favourite airport had a couple of experiences there too.
Yes Air France staff in their homebase not having a clue is unforgivable. But hey, that's why they're CDG! Everyone's favourite airport! Surprisingly, very little passengers actually transit through that airport.
I cracked up so much here ...😂
Glad you enjoyed, thanks for watching!
One of the most amusing trip reports on TH-cam. This music lightened up the mood.
As for my CDG experience: the closest I could think of is my SAS flight last July (T1). I was travelling on SAS Plus so it should have included lounge access. The Star Alliance lounge (then) should have been the natural choice. Yet I encountered two related problems: 1. Each bloc of gates at T1 had their security checkpoint so to approach the bloc of gates that had the lounge, you would need to clear security again; 2. The lounge was too far away that I wasn't confident I would make it back in time after enjoying it. You would think that T1 was just this round structure yet it has several satellite concourses, each with their own security checkpoint. And probably I would have been turned away as my flight wasn't departing from there.
I think the reason for the rather complicated transfer is simple: you were going to fly on another airline. Perhaps checking in via Air Malta's website would have worked.
And how would you go back to sleep after having those soft drinks?
Thanks for watching. CDG like I said, it's beautiful, but overly complicated. It's so complicated even the staff get confused sometimes. From the responses to this video, even Parisians themselves dislike that airport with a passion. 😂
@@ryansofly I think the reason why they didn't issue the boarding card appear simple: Air France isn't the carrier that would operate the Air Malta flight. Unless they were part of an alliance during the time you travelled, the ability to do so was going to depend on the sort of interline agreement they had. Also, had Air Malta shared the same terminal as the one you arrived with on Air France, this would have been a different story. CDG is no Changi or Schiphol where (almost) everything is under one roof.
@@ryansofly on your point of the French way overly complicating stuff, it applies to how they call numbers from 70 to 99. They are trying to outcompete the danes for which numbering conventions are the least boring and least predictable.
@@_Tripsandtips101 🤦😂😂
Very humorous narration. 😂
Haha glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching...
love your videos bro very funny
Thanks for your support! 🙏🙏🙏
Sadly I have had to transit through CDG quite a few times and it is always a hassle. Poor or no signage to assist you to find your way and little or no help from any staff. I now avoid France completely if I have to transit through Europe, even if I have to pay a little more for this.
Now that I've done this transit, think I'll be more prepared should I find myself in CDG again in the future.
CDG is the only airport that I noticed security with very big guns that we very obviously. Not something Aussies are used to seeing.
You can add Singapore Changi, Beirut, and Jakarta Cengkareng to that list.
Had you flown AF La Premiere instead of Economy Class from SIN-CDG, you would have been met by an agent at the door of the aircraft who would drive you in a car to the La Premiere lounge. Since you were connecting to Air Malta they would have probably helped you get your boarding pass in Terminal 2D.
Indeed.... La Premier looked sensational when I walked past it. Connecting traffic in CDG is surprisingly very low, so that might explain the lack of infrastructure to support this traffic.
So easy to say that ...but what about the price difference ?
CDG is a horrible airport; I'll never use it again. And why does nobody notice, or remember, that Air France has had more fatal accidents than any other "flag" carrier? I wouldn't fly them if they gave me 1st Class for life. Other than that, good review! 🙂
Wow... They must've somehow traumatised you huh? Hahaha...
Ok I only use Business class on my long haul, however my experience on A.F. has so far been nothing but excellent all round. Service, food, comfort all great. I’ll be flying with them again in a few months on my regular long haul and hope it will be again a good experience. Also I should add that when contacting them regarding a change of flight the person I spoke to was very helpful. Maybe I’ve just been lucky, I’ll soon find out.
In all fairness, our dealings with the call center were excellent. When air France emailed us about the flight change, it was a day early with Etihad. That's why we had to speak to the call center so we could get us departing on the same day, and that's when they told us QF cancelled QF 35. However, I saw that flight up in the FIDs at MEL. Now several respondents have chimed in to say that flight actually departed. So who knows why QF bumped us off?
Great video. Can you provide the titles of the background music?
If you expand on the description of the video title you’ll see the two songs listed there. 😊
Hilarious review - your reviews have become so professional each one is masterpiece
Why, thank you! Kind words!
Thanks for a great video, Ryan. Probably the best flight report you have made so far. Yes it's rare for AF to disappoint with its catering even in Y class. Would have been better if you had stopped over in Paris rather than brave that CDG transfer experience. As for the routing I am surprised the flight went over Saudi and Egypt (between the Gulf and Europe) as the normal and quicker routing would be over Iraq or Iran. Maybe it was down to air congestion in that area. Looking forward to your next vlogs.
On my way back from LHR to SGN, we took a similar routing. Yes this flight felt unusually long because normally in 13.5hrs, you'd be in LHR .
@@ryansofly Thanks Ryan. Some BA flights from London to the Gulf have also taken a similar routing. I did ask one BA pilot via Twitter about this routing and he replied, "Everything is factored into it. Some days
it might be a cheaper way to go another way for overflight fees etc. [It could be] issues with airways availability en route (e.g. Iran) etc."
Now with the possibility of trouble in the Middle East I can envisage more changes being made to flight routings in that part of the world.
I find KLM just as bad, going all the way back to when I was a child. I still remember the old KLM witch working my flight when I was around 10. I dared ask for a pair of kiddie wings. She snapped back condescendingly, “They are for small children.” (I was 10). I stood my ground and got my wings, but her nastiness stuck with me.
In the US, I find UA flight attendants to be somewhat akin to prison matrons.
In Spain, when smoking was permitted on flights, I always thought of Iberia flight attendants as chain-smoking witches who took full advantage of their perceived prestige.
Funny you should mention KL. I boarded a business class flight and after I sat down, a flight attendant came to me and demanded to see my boarding pass very rudely. Only after that she was convinced I was in the right seat. That was my one and only bad experience with KL.
@@ryansofly Yes, that sounds very familiar for KLM. They have a haughty iciness that oozes condescension and disrespect. They try to pass it off as efficiency.
Thanks for the great flight review .Despite the less then perfect customer service the meals offered seem far superior to the paltry offerings of QANTAS Economy.
Please.... ANYTHING is better than QF these days. As you saw in my previous JQ video, they're no different to QF.
i know what you mean Ryan by the french way of doing things. i was unfortunate enough to have my honeymoon in france, worst 3 days of my life. .much love and have a wonderful day 🤗🙏💕😁
Sorry to hear that! Sheesh what happened?
more like what didnt happen. just found the french rude, @@ryansofly
@@happyjoyjoy6976oh dear.....
Were the architects under the influence when they designed CDG? Looks convoluted as hell.
CDG has been expanded over the years. Originally one terminal it's expanded to have many terminals. But CDG does have its advantages ... no strict curfew (as at LHR and FRA for example) and its very own rail station with TGVs running to many domestic destinations.
After doing this transit once, think I'll be better prepared the next time I go through CDG. It is after all one of the largest airports in the world.
My wife and I are flying Air France to CHG onto Lisbon in June. I trust we will flow seamlessly 🤔🤨😂
Suppose if you're transferring AF-AF, it shouldn't be as cumbersome as mine.
I flew with AF from Mauritius to Paris on a 777, the catering was great, but the seats were the most uncomfortable i have ever sat in. I got no sleep at all... And thr transit in CDG was horrific. I went to the bathroom at the gate of my connecting flight to LHR, and someone had done a 💩 all over the floor and even managed to get it into a sink .. it was horrible, smelly, and gross. I spoke to the gate agent in English about the situation , and she just said I dont speak English and went back to her phone..... CDG?? Never again ...
OMFG that's horrible with the shit all over! Geez....
I like The cuisine aboard. Great video ❤
Yes the food was very delicious, thank God
Which seat would you recommend for that flight in economy?
Suppose it depends on you. I like the seats at the rear because there are usually empty seats if the flights aren't full, people prefer to be seated up front.
43A if you want the window and 43C for the aisle
The Config is pretty similar to Cathay Pacific 777A !
I know right?
Sista Ryanna.. I had no idea you spoke french. I'm impressed girl.
Hahahaha I don't speak it well because I'm out of practice. But I can read it. I also speak 7 other languages. 😏
Nice video and sorry for the flight attendant. I'm french and I only flew once with them but most of my journey was with KLM so... Don't have a real personnal experience but i know lot of people complaining of Air France not only for their behavors but also for the price for flying with them. I know only few destinations vers Air France is the most chepeast airline... Personnaly I used to like to travel with Qatar airways but they broke my trust on my last journey and didn't refund my ticket as they say they will... So probably my next journey will be with Emirates or Turkish Airlines. Anyway, nice review ;)
Thanks for popping by, mate. Funny enough, I expected this from AF. And the airline delivered it in spades, all that great content for story telling. 🤣
I will never fly with Air France unless is free !
Well, I do it so you don't have to! Cheers! 😏
I flew to Paris when Qantas was still.doing Singapore to Paris and back.
I wont venture AF. old equipment. Stiff service staff.
Qantas, warm , friendly , chirpy and helpful and snacks galore throughout the flight, Australian wines and Australian chesse and Mrs. Mac's beef pies .
Thank u very much but no thanks AF .
They squueze ten seats in a row in a B777 when Singapore Air squeezes only nine a breast.
QANTAS B747 to Paris from Singapore had those old thicker cushioned economy.seats . Super comfortable.
Newer economy.seats have non supportive thinner cushions to save on weight.
Fond memories of Qantas to Frankfurt , London, Paris too.
This must've been pre-2008. Those were the days when QF flew to LHR CDG and FRA from SIN. I wouldn't exactly call it good old days because the flight attendants were highly paid and very rude. They were so well protected by their unions so they felt empowered to be nasty to passengers. QF air fares as a consequence were very cheap from SIN because we did not really want to fly them.
@@ryansofly good sarcasm at the end
Great video report! I was there in 2011 to attend the Paris Air Show and try out LAN AIrlines (before they merged with TAM) and the airport is indeed confusing, probably the worst airport in my list so far.
Ah... The lovely LATAM, don't give me nightmare flashbacks, please. 🤣
Yes even the French themselves hate CDG.
I've taken hundreds of flights with Air France and I have to say the service is-- with very few exceptions-- extremely professional. Honestly I think you had bad luck. I have never, ever seen flight attendants wear t-shirts..And I find it very hard to believe that an international flight attendant on Air France refused to speak English, I have never once seen this in 30 years, ESPECIALLY on international flights. As for Hissy, you should really (if you haven't already done so) complain because that is unacceptable.
But you included a lot of stereotypes you included that were not necessary. I know you were trying to be humorous but not super cool.
As for the tramsfer, I have had the same experiences changing airlines... Remember that the people you are talking to at CDG are employees of Aéroports de Paris, not Air France.
I would also complain to AF about the transfer. If they have an agreeement with Air Malta they should have been able to give you a boarding pass. That is likely because of a lack of connection between AF and KM's systems. You may get some extra miles from them :-)
Safe travels!
Thanks for your incredibly detailed and civil response! The t shirt I'm referring to can be seen during the first meal service. That's what several FAs wore around the economy class cabin. As they didn't make themselves available (aka hidden), I didn't even know they were FAs when one finally appeared to prepare for pushback. The AF/KM issue apparently has been well known from the messages I received after this video went out. As this is my first transit in CDG (other times, I've just walked out ), I'll be better prepared in the future if AF is ever involved. As for Hissy, well... Let's just leave it at that. My experiences in France would have that kind of behaviour as normal, so writing in to AF would be time I can never get back. I did enjoy the observations though. She was very well balanced with Antoinette who provided excellent service.
@@ryansofly Yes, there are always some truths in stereotypes-- and many misunderstandings.
First, Paris is not France. France is not Paris. And all people are not the same in any country. Not even within the same country.
As a longterm French resident-- from a European perspective-- I really believe that yes, the French are reserved and either rigid (by Latin cultures) or too messy (Germanic/Scandinavian) but they are human. I live in Paris and yes sometimes I get disagreeable people. Other times I get rushed people. But most of the time the people I interact with want to be happy, they want connection, they aren't used to a smile but if you do sincerely, they will give you sincere smile in return.
They don't care about your ability to speak French.
What visitors often don't understand is that the disconnect comes from social codes and communication styles. To keep it simple... just say Bonjour/Bonsoir Monsieur/Madame and your experience will be entirely different.
That said, we agree on one thing- Hissy definitely needs some deep electroshock therapy!
You seem to complain a lot or b ready to complain a lot. The Tshirt he was referring to is the AF uniforms that they have been wearing nearly for 20 years. When it comes to fashion France is a reference. Thus you fly with AF isn’t it normal for the crew to speak French first ?? At least they give you an overview of where you are flying to, you are immersed in the French culture, which is not to bad. It’s not written on the face who speak or don’t speack French.
@@blakelockridge6145 Chill mate, I also said a lot of good stuff about the airline. If you want a 100% positive red carpet good only report, go to Sam Chui?!
Sounds like Alitalia's dismal service in 1979 😂😂
Very much so yes.... Add Olympic to that party too! 😁
Well, we do pay lots of money to be treated with contempt. AVOID Air Chance, at all costs.
Hahaha... What a way to put it. I was more amused by the experience than I was annoyed. But you're right, I'm not in a hurry to return to AF after this.
ok i will listed out AF for my europe itinerary
No, fly them! Haha, I'm sure the drama will give you stories to share at the dinner table. 😏
great review....i would never want to fly Air France. yikes....
Haha you should fly them anyway! Imagine the stories you'd gather during the flight! 😂
@@ryansofly I’ll just share your stories…lol and save myself the suffering
Flown it from Singapore to Europe as well and prefer it to KLM, Lufthansa, British Airways and Swiss by quite a bit. Singapore Airlines is arguably better but not worth the price difference in my mind
The hisss 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hahahahaha.... Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching!
Love your Videos. Really Not usually and interested. Kai from Frankfurt
Thank you, Kai!
Great vid mate, but not the best of service, big pass for me!
Same- it’s like they want to ostracise and provoke people to make money off them.
Bizarre business model.
That will only work in a monopoly.
hahahaha funny enough I was kinda expecting it because I have been to France before - Just not with AF.
@@rachkate76 That is France for you. There is no middle ground.
@@rachkate76Monopoly ? Not any more.
What a pain in the ass airline and airport.
Sassy customer service staff really get my goat- they’re in customer service jobs and you’re keeping them employed.
I wouldn’t have bit my tongue at Baguette Karen- when she passive aggressively commented to her colleague that you speak some French and laughed at you, I’d have said ‘yeah, do you have a problem with it?’ and walked off. 😂
At least the other one was nice and unpretentious.
That intro with your sibling was hilarious you look nothing similar at all.
And that elderly guy behind you on the plane was a bit uncomfortable with being on camera…. safe to say he will likely not become a subscriber. 😂
Night time over Cairo looked beautiful. ♥️
LOL yeah... And that's France for you.
@@ryansofly have you been to the Middle East?
@@rachkate76 no, but I have expat friends who live there and they don't like it.
what a merde of a airport 🤣
I know right? Tell me about it...
Ive always had great flights on Air Chance
AF is great when they want to be, I'm sure.
Do you like Korean Air in economy?
I have never flown Korean air. My last attempt to fly them out of Busan failed terribly... 🤣 Got denied boarding.
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Af is one of the best
Dude the T shirt you are referring to is part of their uniform. Air India crew wear Sari, AF crew wear Christian Lacroix, with a all different pieces of uniform. Maybe it was sarcasm and supposed to b funny, didn’t catch it in your voice ..
Also, Economy class la?? I thought you were a business class lady through and through!!
I wish money grew on the tree in my backyard. Lol! I can only afford to fly OZ to EU in JCL on points.
Sounds like in Antoinette you encountered a French "Karen" at 35,000 feet!
Haha you mean hissy! Antoinette was lovely...
the AIRFRANCE its not what it used to be still better than KLM which is shit I always fly Business class and its good but remember even Singapore airlines economy its not what it used to be and can you tell me the date of your flight also regarding of boarding pass its really strange was your Malta flight ticket on the airfrance roundtrip ticket or it was separate AF ticket? if it is separate in some cases they cant give you boarding pass but if its on the same itenary they can give you thats strange and always show galley snacks lol and put the flight date
It was one ticket on a single PNR... MEL SIN CDG MLA.
@@ryansofly ok now I understand the reason is when is two connection they cant give you third one in some cases
Hissy haha, classic.
Hahahaha.... You don't say! She's my hero! 😆
Pissy Missy Pomme noisette.
@@rachkate76 🤣🤣🤣🤣OMG Pomme noisette!!! I have not heard that in like forever! Pomme noisette is such a retro part of my childhood!
@@ryansofly oh you had them too?
I remember them fondly from the ages of about 5-8 my mum frying them.
Haven’t had them since.
@@rachkate76 I even remember the ad on TV!
Why? 😮😮
Why? Why not?
moral of this tale is............do not fly air france ever.........lol
Hahahaha.... Come on, on AF is where interesting stories are created!
These are the Top10: 100% are ASIAN Airlines... ANA All Nippon Airways, Asiana Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways, EVA Air, Garuda Airways, Hainan Airlines, Japan Airlines, Korean Air, Qatar Airways, Singapore Airlines
I don't disagree. If it wasn't for me creating content for my channel, I'd always fly Asian carriers. Hahaha...
You have to speak even a bit french if you fly AF
Ha yes I do speak french. Haven't done so in decades though.
Not really, pretty much all the cabin crew speak English, especially on long haul flights
Staff canteen ?
Yeah... It's opened to the public.
You got a problem with the words 'staff canteen'?