Fun fact: the Korean alphabet was actually sort of created this way. They first made basic letters like ㄱ ㄴ ㅁ ㅅ ㅇ and then added more lines to make the rest, so that similarly shaped letters have similar sounds. ㄱ ㅋ - g k ㄴ ㄷ ㅌ - n d t ㅁ ㅂ ㅍ - m b p ㅅ ㅈ ㅊ - s z ts (in medieval Korean) ㅇ ㅎ - ø h
If they added custom symbols and/or symbols from other languages then it would add a lot of replayability. Adding a bit to the optimization part as well, maybe with space blocked up for space efficiency, and you've got a gem of a game.
Agreed, especially considering this was a game jam game, which in all reality 99% of get played just once and are rated on that. This was an amazing entry.
Id say theres definitely replayability, especially if we can make words that require you to actually think about your factori placements. Id love to see this game also introduce mechanics that block or hinder creations to get people thinking
Two days is what I take to do my Algorithms and Data Structures homework, which is just things like “make a linked list”, “make an AVL tree”, “solve this using a hash table in some way”.
I haven't seen the video yet but this kinda reminds me of Jahooma's Logic Box. A really interesting game I used to play back in the day on Kongregate. EDIT: finished the video, the concept is interesting, but the game doesn't seem to have a lot of replayability... maybe if it was done with chinese letters? hmmm...
Definitely a lot of potential for chinese pinyin, japanese kanji, letters with diacritical marks like ø, and all the !@#$%^&*() that I forget what they're called.
@@jayglenn837 I don't really see how the devs could make it without hardcoding almost every symbol which I assume is how this has been done for a large part of it. So having way too many symbols makes it basically an impossible feat.
The words could add some puzzle element if there was a limited amount of factories. Then you have to find a way to make all the letters by reusing factories
to get around the need for more letters than exist to keep the discovery going, i wonder about adding more logistical elements? Place blockers on the map, place receiving bins anywhere, apply supply line limitations such as no overlap, etc.
Hey, so the devs of this game, Star Garden Games, have made this an actual game which they will be releasing on Steam soon. It’s updated with a bunch of new things from what I can tell. Just wanted to let you know.
I'm just imagining all the numbers, characters, symbols, and letters you can make with this. The ending made me question if you could curve a w, could you make an omega (ω)? Plenty of modding/dlc potential here.
Just started playing and I really like it. I just haven’t figured out what the 2, 3, and 4 red pieces really do. I’ve only used the two piece one to create V’s and some other letters
Just came across this video, thought the concept was really cool, looked up the game and discovered the full game was literally releasing today. How coincidental
r# means reflected letter R1# means rotated, number on the right determines how much c# means curved #(2) means the amount of a letter/equation (# + #) means you do that step first Anything(# + #) means you do that step first, and then process the resulting equation on the left side A -> I(2) + R1I B -> I + rcI(2) C -> cI D -> I + rcI E -> I + R1I(3) F -> I + R1I(2) G -> cI + R2(I + R1I) H -> I(2) + R1I I -> I J -> I + R1cI K -> I + R1(I(2)) L -> I + R1I M -> I(2) + (I(2)) N -> I(3) O -> cI + rcI P -> I + R2cI Q -> cl + rcl + I R -> I + rcI + I S -> cr(I(2)) T -> I + R1I U -> r(I + R1cI) + (I + R1cl) V -> I(2) W -> l(2) + I(2) X -> I(2) + R2(I(2)) Y -> I + (I(2)) Z -> r(I(2)) Edit: why is this blowing up after a year
iirc the youtube channel Suckerpinch made a video on this concept called... Anagraphs? i think? He divided letters into several basic shapes and made a program to find every possible rearrangement of the shapes in the words.
this game would be even better if you had limited factories so you have to find out new ways to make the same letters. like you only have one bender so you gotta use it to make the Q and the P but then you run out of straight lines something like that
I love this game it so nice to just relax with some puzzle game that can get really tricky if it wanted to also the music are great it so simple but dam dont i love it so much
Can you believe that this game was made entirely in 48 hours? Quite the enjoyable and original concept.
the j
the j
The j
the j
It's also an original name.
*The letter "o" has entered the chat*
That ending tho, REVELATION.
I bet you can make "U" by rounding "V", and "J" by rounding mirrored "L"
big brain plays
rotated c + I + I
😲
Lol, Tyler did you miss that "I T" output was a clown picture, or was that just cut out of the final video? 3:45
He missed it
@@tim..indeed Pun intented or no?
I get it.
@@ilikepie4685I donttt
Fun fact: the Korean alphabet was actually sort of created this way. They first made basic letters like ㄱ ㄴ ㅁ ㅅ ㅇ and then added more lines to make the rest, so that similarly shaped letters have similar sounds.
ㄱ ㅋ - g k
ㄴ ㄷ ㅌ - n d t
ㅁ ㅂ ㅍ - m b p
ㅅ ㅈ ㅊ - s z ts (in medieval Korean)
ㅇ ㅎ - ø h
wait korean has an alphabet???
@@sarad2487nah im pretty sure its a syllabary
ㅊ make ch and ㅈ make j
Can’t wait for the Greek alphabet expansion
I will be patiently waiting for all Japanese characters DLC
Also waiting for russian update
ГШҸфплджҝӘЧИғбБө
Chinese DLC will be Dark Souls of this game
Did you know about the Sign Language pack? It will be great! :D
i cant wait to make π
Cool game. Not much replayability factor, but still, made in just 48 hours
Yeah once you know all the letters, it’s just kinda easy
You could probably increase its complexity by adding limited resources for some puzzles and introducing really whacky shapes and factories.
Also letters from another language. Like cyrillic
@@_dopelgander_9646 how about kanji
@@alexsiemers7898 how about drawing then?)
I physically recoiled when he said “I C”
U
... and then he said " So I need to make an "O"... Oh, I see!" XD
P
@@madjatmusic nah he said “O, I C”
If they added custom symbols and/or symbols from other languages then it would add a lot of replayability. Adding a bit to the optimization part as well, maybe with space blocked up for space efficiency, and you've got a gem of a game.
The game has 0 replayability but that's okay. Not every game needs it.
Agreed, especially considering this was a game jam game, which in all reality 99% of get played just once and are rated on that. This was an amazing entry.
Not 0, you can make your own words.
Id say theres definitely replayability, especially if we can make words that require you to actually think about your factori placements. Id love to see this game also introduce mechanics that block or hinder creations to get people thinking
A good way to extend it would be to create ASCII art as an output
@@nolansquirrelo4489 try making a word with only one source factory
I think this game would be great for Japanese or Mandarin characters, because there's so many unique ones
It would be hard to positions the parts correctly, there are many symbols with the same types of lines
For example, 上 and エ. Both consist of two sideways lines and a normal line
@@someinternetguy2676 That's kind of like a T problem. エ would be made with 5 lines, while 上 would be made with 4
There's actually a game called Kanji Factory. It doesn't seem quite as enjoyable, though :/
@@buttonasas what problems does it have?
Game jam devs are so talented to be able to create such unique concepts in 2 days
To be fair, they usually plan out the entire game beforehand and then spend 48 hours programming with no sleep
Two days is what I take to do my Algorithms and Data Structures homework, which is just things like “make a linked list”, “make an AVL tree”, “solve this using a hash table in some way”.
@@BlueberryCats_ Not for this one, the GMTK Game Jam only reveals the concept as the jam starts.
@@BlueberryCats_ The theme, which was "Joined Together", was revealed when the jam started.
I actually saw GMTK play it on stream and he thought it was pretty good as seen on his best GMTK jam games.
gmtk?
Makes an A and goes “ayee”
Makes an I and a C and goes “ahh I see”
Makes an O and goes “ooohh”
So coincidental it seems intentional
I haven't seen the video yet but this kinda reminds me of Jahooma's Logic Box. A really interesting game I used to play back in the day on Kongregate.
EDIT: finished the video, the concept is interesting, but the game doesn't seem to have a lot of replayability... maybe if it was done with chinese letters? hmmm...
Definitely a lot of potential for chinese pinyin, japanese kanji, letters with diacritical marks like ø, and all the !@#$%^&*() that I forget what they're called.
@@jayglenn837 symbols?
@@nibooswastaken All letters are symbols. You know what, I just remembered - punctuation and special characters.
Or having some kind of leaderboard for words, competing for lowest number of factoris used or fastest making of.
@@jayglenn837 I don't really see how the devs could make it without hardcoding almost every symbol which I assume is how this has been done for a large part of it. So having way too many symbols makes it basically an impossible feat.
The words could add some puzzle element if there was a limited amount of factories. Then you have to find a way to make all the letters by reusing factories
just 1 more letter Tyler, you can do it
Factorio?
Wait.. A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z.
So Tyler missed one more letter which is F?
@Stanley Yu Oh that too. It's really hard to notice everything in his video lol
@@nik_senpai F is just E without one of the lines. What about P?
@@jmvr Probably double capital "i" with backward "C". What do you think?
Oh nice lol I was looking at the results of this Jam yesterday and thought ‘that game is just like the one Tyler played’ and now here we are
Yes it is! You can really see the inspiration from Shapez.io
@@Mysda_ I think it uses some of the same music too lol
Ok but this feels like a simple concept that could get really complec once you start going for high/perfect scores with optimization etc
This game was great, totally deserved to get the top rating in Mark Brown's list.
8:33
Aliensrock: How did i do U
Me: Flushed emoji
to get around the need for more letters than exist to keep the discovery going, i wonder about adding more logistical elements? Place blockers on the map, place receiving bins anywhere, apply supply line limitations such as no overlap, etc.
You get bored before the last level don't worry. It's pretty much just a jam experiment
@@Mysda_ they’ve said in this very comment section that it’s gonna be a full experience.
Also, letters from other languages, and/or digits perhaps?
@@weepingwalnut Oh- If the progess isn't lost everytime, that might be better
1:34 "We're trying to make O? O, I C." that's 3 letters, you just need the o.
Hey, so the devs of this game, Star Garden Games, have made this an actual game which they will be releasing on Steam soon. It’s updated with a bunch of new things from what I can tell. Just wanted to let you know.
Shift-clicking a flipper makes it flip vertically and rotaters rotate counterclockwise
I forgot whether I mentioned this game in the comments section or just to a friend but I'm happy to see you try it!
Damn, I was in the Jam too, I ended up 89 with Jungzzle. I'm updating it soon
Ooohhh so close Tyler you forgot the o when you searched for factorio
Him : Makes C from I using Bender.
Him : *"IC."*
I think once you know all the letters, the fun is in trying to optimise you factory. A bit like pollybridge.
I'm just imagining all the numbers, characters, symbols, and letters you can make with this. The ending made me question if you could curve a w, could you make an omega (ω)? Plenty of modding/dlc potential here.
oωo
That's a very neat concept, but it's basically only got 26 levels after which all are just repeats of earlier levels in different combinations.
Yeah but that's okay, not every game needs tens of hours of gameplay, some can just be a very short but neat experience
until you need space management
its a game jam game what do you expect??? lol
00:40 "I C"
1:36 "O I C" fire joke right there
8:31 Tyler the Rizzler: You, you I've done before. How did I do you?
Just started playing and I really like it. I just haven’t figured out what the 2, 3, and 4 red pieces really do. I’ve only used the two piece one to create V’s and some other letters
"double-u is just two v's"
beautiful quote
It’s Factorio without the last o.
Dollar store Factorio
Just came across this video, thought the concept was really cool, looked up the game and discovered the full game was literally releasing today. How coincidental
11:15 "how do i get (as)s" great question...
"We're tryna make O? O, I C." 1:34
"I see" at 0:40 had me laughing haha
r# means reflected letter
R1# means rotated, number on the right determines how much
c# means curved
#(2) means the amount of a letter/equation
(# + #) means you do that step first
Anything(# + #) means you do that step first, and then process the resulting equation on the left side
A -> I(2) + R1I
B -> I + rcI(2)
C -> cI
D -> I + rcI
E -> I + R1I(3)
F -> I + R1I(2)
G -> cI + R2(I + R1I)
H -> I(2) + R1I
I -> I
J -> I + R1cI
K -> I + R1(I(2))
L -> I + R1I
M -> I(2) + (I(2))
N -> I(3)
O -> cI + rcI
P -> I + R2cI
Q -> cl + rcl + I
R -> I + rcI + I
S -> cr(I(2))
T -> I + R1I
U -> r(I + R1cI) + (I + R1cl)
V -> I(2)
W -> l(2) + I(2)
X -> I(2) + R2(I(2))
Y -> I + (I(2))
Z -> r(I(2))
Edit: why is this blowing up after a year
Thanks for the tutorial!
Thanks for the tutorial!
Thanks for the tutorial!
8:33
Aliens rock : how did I do *u*
This game is super cute, but you are right about it loosing enjoyment when you figure every letter out.
1:47 Oooooo I c was comedic gold
1:35 "O I C"
yeah.... that's how the game works... letters
Add an "o" and it's a game u gotta play
he has tried Factorio, but didn't really enjoy it.
@@amybaughman7392 oh, i didn't know that.
Can you link us the vid?
I can’t find it.
@@mchsprod i don't know if he uploaded it to yt, but he played it on one of his marathon streams.
he was so bored of it that he played polybridge 2 instead because factorio's tutorial was way too long.
Now you need to optimize so that you don't have any unused letters anywhere in the chain.
0:40 yes, its an i and a c, good job
1:35 “O I C”
Realizing that the level that has I T as the end letters
Has a clown on the block is fun
When "Factorio" is taken
im never gonna be able to think about letters the same now
iirc the youtube channel Suckerpinch made a video on this concept called... Anagraphs? i think? He divided letters into several basic shapes and made a program to find every possible rearrangement of the shapes in the words.
They should make a translator and something to merge letters together to make Latin words so you can have more to explore then just 26 letters
this game would be even better if you had limited factories so you have to find out new ways to make the same letters.
like you only have one bender so you gotta use it to make the Q and the P but then you run out of straight lines something like that
3 Is make a Y, an I and and a V is IV
ill sub because these games are my type
0:40 Nice joke, maybe unintended but still good. :)
„you, you i’ve done before”
😳
one more o and we have a 50 episode series on our hands
TMW you want to watch Aliensrock, but don't want get spoiled on the puzzles.
1:36 o i c
0:40
Oh that's how it works, I C.
He's talking about how cool the game is but he talk about the pollution!
Tyler is ignoring the fact global warming!
COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT.
11:00
According to Mr Alien I'm a Heathen
0:41
“I C”
I like how he said "O, I C"
I love this game it so nice to just relax with some puzzle game that can get really tricky if it wanted to also the music are great it so simple but dam dont i love it so much
Factori, ah yes, the plural of factorus.
First day of preschool be like: 5:23
Great joke at 0:41
It would be very fun to make the puzzles harder by restricting the space. I think it's too easy otherwise
oh hey its that gamejam game!
0:40 "I see"... Pun intended?
0:45 while transforming i into c "I see"
We are trying to get O? O I C
Me laughing everything he says a letter "I see" (I C) or simply see (C) bacause I have too much humor
The name seems oddly familiar...almost like it's missing something
o
o
O my, it dOes sOund familiar but i dOnt knOw what tO add
O I C
just wait till they add numbers
or even worse, the dreaded ß
Nah, i heard the final boss was 歌
whatever that means
interesting game.
I had problems making the T too
There should be a dlc for Cyrillic and Greek letters
"We have to make O? - O I C"
0:39 yes, i c
I can't wait for the Kanji DLC
I am everything.
GMTK Game JAM 2021
w not being two "u" is miss opportunity for a joke
I like how double_u is 2 v's
0:28 vile
The game seems like it will update
now we need multiple languages
in the I and C section:
IC
0:41
Coincidence? I think not!
1:34
0:40 yes I-C
😲 - Interesting game...
"O, I C..." (Oh, I see)
"O..." (Oh...)
9:42 ---> 😆 / 🤢
woah this game looks sick. Can I expect more videos of this?
sorry mate. game jam gam so probably does not have much to offer after
SNACK MOREEEE NEED
so this is how the alphabet is shown